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Should Trent Denton Remain Here?

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Lowin Fovoter
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It’s your site Z. I say F them and play their game; burn the witches, what the hell, winter is comin’, gotta burn something to stay warm

Bunny
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Are females allowed to vote?

Burner Prime
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Only if your husband or close male relative says it’s OK.

Member

Suffrage is the cause of all this, but doesn’t seem to be much point to mucking about with the barn door now.

Glen Filthie
Guest

I ignore him, he’s just another brainless SJW attention whore with nothing intelligent to say or add. It’s your blog and ya don’t want to turn good posters away… but I haven’t seen anything out of him that you couldn’t get from the menopausal HR fattie at work…

Tim
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While this is an opinion blog, and not a social media site, I say let him stay anyway, but totally ignore him. If the troll wants to lay down one good rant in every conversation, it will only educate newcomers on how ignorant he and his brethren are. If he starts taking up too much space, then revisit the decision.

Member

Let him play with Tiny Duck over at Sailer’s site. If leftists want to have a reasonable discussion, fine, that’s great. The aim of TD (either the one here or the one over there) is just to provoke and derail. Fuck ’em (or him if they’re the same person).

Wilbur Hassenfus
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I think they’re the same. Same childish talking points, same hate-whitey schtick, same problems with English.

A.B. Prosper
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He is Tiny Duck among other names. The phraseology is identical from blog to blog

The only thing new is his blog recs, which are from experience (I read him well before this twerp showed up ) are terrible

Tax Slave
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Sure it’s not “Tiny Dick”?

calsdad
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You’re never going to have a real conversation with a true leftist. The only point to the conversation – is to screw with them and (hopefully) – set them off. It took me a while to clue into this. In my younger days I thought the problem was just one of lack of information. I believe Zman has commented about his before – but I see a lot of this on right side of the aisle: ” they just don’t understand us – we’ll talk and it will all be ok”. No – it won’t You SHOULD argue with leftists… Read more »
Allyn71
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“You’re never going to have a real conversation with a true leftist. The only point to the conversation – is to screw with them and (hopefully) – set them off.”

That’s not sound advice. All it does is reinforces confirmation bias. Arguing requires protocols to be followed. We all have opinions, but not every opinion is valid.

Calsdad
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You obviously still think you can somehow “educate” somebody like Trent Denton. I’ve never found an instance where that has come true. Liberals inject hate and misery into people’s lives. The goal should be to return the favor. When you can do it without violence but merely by resorting to words and constantly outrunning them and countering their half assed arguments – and the end result is pissing them off or literally making them cry – it’s worth the investment of time.

Tim
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BTW, is the “Tiny Duck” poster at Sailer’s blog the same guy?

Dutch
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Both “TD”, slang “true dat”.

Tax Slave
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Or Tiny Dick

Member

Meh, look at it like a flag burner. It’s good to be reminded who the nutbags are. Reserve the right to spike posts that go too far.

Tearing down statues doesn’t change speech. Speech codes don’t change or stop speech. Getting trolled by an asshole doesn’t change your argument.

I read lots of stupid liberal ideas and other things, hasn’t hurt me yet.

Guest
Guest

I don’t pretend to have all the answers and like a hearty debate with intellectually honest opposition. He’s just a troll. Whack him.

Member
I typically think that only crazy, true-believing leftists ban people, having been banned by a handful of such sites (and subreddits) over the years. Then I was banned by some meatheat at Red State, flogging his jump record, for pointing out that the US Armed Services aren’t doing as much for freedom and liberty in Afghanistan as he’d like to think, given that the threat to these things is in Washington, DC. Awful petulant, if you ask me. So, for someone who’s just incoherently spraying feces all over, I’d say let him rant – but don’t give him the satisfaction… Read more »
WWWWWWWWWWW
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I remember my first ban. It was from NRO for calling McCain a turd.

Bunny
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My first ban was from from HuffPo for mentioning Bill Clinton and cigars in the same sentence.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Guest

Freud: “sometimes a cigar is just a cigar”
Marx: “I love my cigar, but sometimes I take it out of my mouth”
(Groucho Marx, that is. speaking to a woman who had 8 kids)

Eclectic Esoteric
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Don’t feel bad. I got banned from Mark Levin’s FB for being more supportive of then candidate Trump than candidate Cruz during one of Mark’s “never Trump” sh*tnados.

Alzaebo
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Levin, the Shrieking Housewife

Eclectic Esoteric
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Tax Slave
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I was banned from Moonbattery for supporting Trump. It was fun to check out the site day after the election. I used Tor and left a few choice comments.

Member
I was a long time commenter there, dating back even before I got my gold star. There was a thread about Obama’s religious affiliation. I deployed some sarcasm about his Muslimhood. The mod wrote me to “pull back, this comes straight from the top” which I presume to mean Lowry. It’s the only time I saw a mod spike his own post. It was memory holed a couple hours later. They didn’t ban me, but it was the day I realized how much the commenters were driving the editors nuts. They claimed not to read the comments, but our posts… Read more »
Member

That sir is a badge of honor, and I salute you.

John Carter
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I was banned @NRO for calling out Williamson after he said white people deserve to die.

P_Ang
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I can’t tell you the number of liberal sites I’ve been banned from, and every time it was for backing up my arguments with links to supporting articles. Didn’t matter where the links were to, every time there were shrieks of fury for daring to show opposition to the one, true religion of liberalism, and then the ban-hammer dropped. Seems that facts burn liberals like ants under a magnifying glass…

Trent Denton
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These white tears are delicious!

The left is learning how to meme! Just look at the mass triggerings

https://twitter.com/lpolgreen/status/898593716922929152

Read very smart borthas to see who ruin it

Sorry, you guys lose. The young are staying woke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJoKhO9G1g

Man name changes, statues coming down, deplatforming, resignations, defections, firings….you guys wanted to start a fight and we are going to finish it

Bad week for you guys!

Good week for People of Color and allies! Good week for freedom! Good week for America!

Member

What more do you need Z? Drone this ass.

jhstuart
Guest

Be very careful what you wish for.

Dutch
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I am not one for getting all wound up and banning people, and no one should take himself too seriously, but, jeez, just look at his posting above. One guy doesn’t ruin a site, but get a bunch of them and you have a real problem here. Zero Hedge used to have a clever and intelligent comment section, now it is completely unreadable. I was “let him be” until I saw his posting on this thread. The verbal equivalent of someone who hits some guy’s dog with a rock and then goes around looking for high fives from everyone in… Read more »
Tim
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OK, I’m with you there. Argued above for letting him stay, but ignoring, but geez, what a dick. Drone.

Dutch
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Take a look at TD’s posts. They are cut-and-paste generalized comments. They are not even composed for the conversation at hand. Once you see that, you will recognize it every time. Seriously, get him out of here. He is spray-canning verbal graffiti all over your website, Z.

Alex
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Yeah, ZH used to have some pretty good commentary, analysis, and links to other sites worth reading. Now it’s basically unreadable.

RabbiHighComma
Guest

“Read very smart borthas to see who ruin it”

Well said.

Member

The guy is on and on about doing away with white people and white culture. He’s all the evidence you need to prove the insane bias against us, and he’s right here. Let him shower his monitor with flecks of spittle. Z writes about it, and then a normie gets to the comment section and gets to see one for real. It’s like a trip to the zoo. Instant verification. If people like this moron didn’t exist wed have to build one in the lab.

MadSklz
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And this comment is the only Joy I would have if TD stays xP

Wilbur Hassenfus
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You don’t get it. Nobody anywhere gives a damn about “people of color”. Everybody wrote you off as hopeless congenital basket cases years ago — the last white people who ever truly believed in you gave up by 2000. Now it’s all 100% cynical. There’s a conflict between white people. You’re a weapon in that conflict. Can you eat a statue or live in it? Well, a statue is all they’re giving you. Isn’t that right? Sucker. If the left finally wins, you won’t be useful any more and nobody will ever care about you again. Asians and Mexicans don’t… Read more »
Member

1991 LA Riots. Cheering in the streets for OJ Simpson’s acquittal. Them two did it for me.

Chiefillinicake
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Blacks are the reason America can’t have anything nice.

Member

Who has time to waste on this kind of crap? Ban it.

calsdad
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This is going to get good when the MLK statues start coming down and all roads named Martin Luther King Boulevard get renamed ” Black Crime Central Street”

LOL

Apparently college level education uses cartoons made for 5 year olds now.

This is probably a result of having to accomodate the “education” to the diversity that is now mandated to be shoved thru the upper level educational process by governmental edict.

George
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BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

So long Denton you POS

Stupid supremacy will not be tolerated

Nothing like quoting the source back at him/her/it

Christopher S. Johns
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My two cents: Trent should remain, if only for his command of the English language, and the relevancy and sagacity of his links. Case in point: the “woke” YouTube video above is a moronic lefty kid’s cartoon that supposedly trashes Columbus but can’t manage to get important details straight (for instance Ferdinand and Isabella speak with “whatza matta you!” fake Italian-American accents) – it’s history as taught by Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. But then again, what do you expect from a fellow who thinks that Leonard Pitts is an intellectual? (Also, I went to check out Very Smart Brothas; imagine how… Read more »
Thud
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Always nice to have a pet monkey around the house, let him stay and maybe one day he will learn not to shit everywhere.

DAS
Guest

I voted yes. Most of the commenters here are rather dry. A little comic relief goes a long way. TD is one of the few that has made me snort coffee. As long he doesn’t make a total pest of himself… every court needs a jester at which to point and laugh.

james wilson
Guest

86. There was one day when the troll was not fed. That was impressive. The thing about trolls of this sort is that they make such easy targets that nothing productive comes of it. A strong argument will either change my opinion, or teach me to strengthen it. That’s a lot of litter from one guy at the picnic.

Fred Crews
Guest

I think he should stay. You don’t want create an echo chamber. I didn’t vote because it looks like application is malfunctions

John Carter
Guest

“You don’t want create an echo chamber.”

Yes, God forbid a private website ban a virulent troll who only adds detritus to the conversation.

Carl Hardwick
Guest

I accidentally voted “yes” because after reading the comments and reading about the ongoing purge of conservative web sites, I thought the question was “Should Trent Denton be banned”.

That might be why some votes were “Yes”.

Member
I have only read this site for a short period of time. I have only commented a few times. In my few months reading here, I have seen nothing of value from this particular troll. If only he made good points that would add to the conversation then he would be valuable even as we disagree. But, alas, he could well be somebody’s parrot or the first attempt at a SJW AI program. I think that asking him to restrain himself a good, intelligent comment each thread could be a starting place — but you really don’t need him here… Read more »
Jon of the Hills
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If we conservatives value free speech the he should stay

Member

Yeah, exactly. They say that at NRO all the time. “We should never stoop to their level.” Just look at McCain or Romney and you can see what a winning strategy that one is!

james wilson
Guest

I value free speech the same way I value free assembly. There are places you can run naked and places it is frowned upon. Trolling is not free speech. People like to say that banning a troll here justifies the banning of comment from left wing sites but nothing will effect leftist tactics. One is the banning of opinion and the other is picking up litter. One possible alternative–a troll link for anyone who wants to play. If someone who I had learned to enjoy were banished to a comment link that would be the first place I would go.

John Carter
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That is such straw man BS. Free Speech occurs in Public, not a private website..

Shelby
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Ok. As a typical woman (yes bunnie we vote and comment here), I voted yes because he is very annoying. I like it here because you guys make a lot of sense, even when you disagree. You are all wicked smart and very well read. The troll is like a flat squirrel on the road.
So, if he stays I will just get used to his hard, ugly mouth.
Thanks for asking our opinion.
Love the podcasts, you’re getting real good.

Burner Prime
Guest

Do not ban him. Don’t create safe spaces for the right. If it bothers readers, then they can skip his comments. He is a good source of left intel, morale, argumentation, and mindset.

Member

I agree. I would never have known who Leonard Pitts was, and what an idiot he is, absent TD’s mention of him. With TD, whatever he/it is, we get a window into the void that is where the Cult’s soul used to be. Plus links.

Alzaebo
Guest

Also agree. I want to know what the enemy is thinking.

John Carter
Guest

Like you don’t know?

John Carter
Guest

You guys crack me up … you don’t know already what the Left is thinking, or their mindset? Funny that.

CaptainMike
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I say dump him. He’s an idiot- and I spend far too much of my time dealing involuntarily with idiots at work to want to come here and voluntarily read the incoherent spewings of another leftist shifferbrains.
I think he generally detracts from the discussion and occasionally derails intelligent discourse with his dim-witted postings.

Saml Adams
Guest

Run into some of his brethren in other places. Just do a few “point and laugh” responses and they’ve learned to leave me alone.

Hosswire
Guest

Xe just left the exact same comment as Tiny Duck on Sailer’s. I vote ban. Xe adds nothing to the conversation. It’s always just drive by off topic nonsense.

Alzaebo
Guest

An upvote for the use of ‘xe’!

Member
I just came across that other comment, so here’s the link. It is in fact verbatim. So we learn a) that the two “TD”s are in fact the same, and b) this isn’t any sort of valid commenting (whether one agrees with it or not) but just a form of spray-painting graffiti (to borrow an image some other commenter used here). This mindless crap has no more value than those spam comments in bold face about earning money at home that routinely turn up on any comment section connected to FB, with the distinction that those comments are simply irrelevant,… Read more »
Member

Oops, I seem to have messed up the HTML, and there’s no edit function. But at least the link works.

Anonymous White Male
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Titanic Douchebag is an idiot and a troll. He evinces no wisdom so he could possibly be an unemployed college dropout living in his mother’s basement. But, I say ban him for lack of originality and intelligence in his posts. I used to visit Scott Adams’ blog. I quit. There is a type of liberal troll that constantly posts his level of BS and there is nothing you can do or say that will shut them up. Their arguments remind one of the Monty Python Argument Clinic sketch. And the absolute only reason they come and insult Scott and the… Read more »
Member

As long as trolls remain civil they should stay. They are the queens of the prom and everybody wants to dance with them. Don’t believe me then look at the comment count when one is around.

Brianguy
Guest

Z is it possible to randomly ban him at your will just to burn out his enthusiasm?? If wishes to put forth the effort one particular day only to see his efforts wasted. That might be be dissuasive enough? We know you’ve more important things to do but if it’s not TOO inconvenient banish him for a few days. A week. Or whatever. He’ll never know until he hits send. My opinion.
@Shelby…. “Flat squirrel” comment was very funny.

Jim Don Bob
Guest

I voted yes because I had no idea who this guy is. Let 1000 flowers bloom.

J.S.
Guest

he has to go back

Cloudswrest
Guest

Who is Trent Denton?

L. Beau Macaroni
Guest

If he hadn’t commented on this very thread, I wouldn’t have remembered. When I first saw Zman’s post, I thought that TD was either a minor Trump Admin. official, or else some losing college football coach of whom I’d never heard. Then someone else mentioned “Tiny Duck” from Steve Sailer’s blog comments, and the light of recognition dawned on me.

A.T. Tapman
Member

The poster using the Trent Denton name also posts under the Tynisha Dainty label as well as Tiny Duck. A friend knows this creature in RL, She is a 380 pound she-boon with a severe case of “da beetus”. She can be safely ignored or mocked as circumstance dictates.

Member

Hey- I have that! Mercifully, mild and long may it stay so. But I have never seen the Ebonics slang name before. So simple and elegant.

I will begin using this immediately.

TY 😉

FTR, Wow that TD sounds like an idiot. I think I’ve seen around here. Definitely remember Tuck on Sailer. I have my suspicions their side will win, but not with material like that on side. Jeez.

RWnova
Guest

As he is a troll I just scroll down past the post, but since the quality of the commentary that I read here is consistently high, it is irksome to have to do so.

But it is your house, Z-man, your rules; I’m gobsmacked that you’re even asking our opinion, heh.

JohnTyler
Guest

Who the hell is Trent Denton??

Matt Harris
Guest

That is what I was wondering.

tljhound
Guest

Your site, your decision – a property rights thing.

I just go Amish and shun him.

Eclectic Esoteric
Guest

Does his mother know he’s on the Internet?

L. Beau Macaroni
Guest

She thinks that he’s playing “World of Warcraft.”

Al from da Nort
Guest
Z Man; Every commenter, me included, needs to add *something* to any blog he/she regularly appears on. Something positive from the Trent D participation would include honest representation of opposing viewpoints. This would include letting us know what our enemies are thinking or saying in an organized fashion. But, this information is not actually obscure nor very well hidden. To the contrary, it is on cable news every minute. But he/she could actually add serious value by summarizing or pointing at better quality summaries that are representative examples of their point of view. But this is not what I see… Read more »
L. Beau Macaroni
Guest
I voted yes for two reasons: 1. It offends my “classic liberal”, 18th c. Enlightenment inspired sensibilities to ban anyone’s speech except at the most dire need. And really, Trent’s “Tiny Duck, Jr.” schtick doesn’t do the comments section any harm, as long as he doesn’t start posting 300 times a day, or suchlike. 2. In the more devious regions of my mind, I think, “Look at Trent Denton’s stuff. It’s ludicrous tripe, when it’s not out-and-out race-baiting.” I think the TD does his own cause, presumably left or center-left, more harm than good with his comments here. He tries… Read more »
Karl Hungus
Guest

i don’t get this kind of attitude at all. TD is a shit stain on the carpet. there is nothing positive about his presence here, and lots of negative effects. Since people have a hard time ignoring trolls, they serve to distract from the post being commented on.

to the people who say live and let live re:TD — that is exactly the kind of assbrained “thinking” that has gotten the western world in the shitty place it is now.

L. Beau Macaroni
Guest

I explained my position as well as I am able, but it looks as though, just like in the UK last year, “Remain” is going to lose. In this case, “remain” is losing by more than 2-to-1, so you’ll likely get your wish, Karl Hungus.

I called TD an “unsubtle troll” and his words “ludicrous tripe”, so it’s not like I’m gonna miss him if he goes….

TWS
Guest

He’s a troll. A special kind of troll. He’s either larping and trying to red or black pill people or he really is that stupid hateful and vindictive.

I suspect he thinks he’s deplorable duck or Godfrey Elfwick. He’s neither just predictable and annoying in that he derails every comment thread. Right now he’s laughing up his sleeve over the attention. That’s what he is at his base an attention whore.

Gerard Van der Leun
Member

No idea who this is. I come for the ZMan and seldom stay for the discussions.

Gerard Van der Leun
Member

HOwever, not knowing who this character is, I have to say that if the rule is “Don’t feed the trolls” (and I troll heavily when I can at twit) then you’ve just slipped this joke a giant tasty cheeseburger cheeseburger cheeseburger.

Epicaric
Guest

If an outsider can disabuse me of the impression that we are headed to hell in a handbasket, then let me hear it. I’d love to sleep better at night.

Bill Robbins
Guest

A shooting gallery needs targets.

J.S.
Guest
I don’t care about this dude, but I think this is an interesting test case about what are we learning. Those talking about classical liberalism or free speech or “just like the left” simply are not learning their lessons. This isn’t about free speech, when we pretend it’s simply a matter of just wanting everyone to say things, its disingenuous. We’re going to have political repression in society – not a one to this point in human history has got by without it. The goal is to repress the Denton’s of the world so this cataclysmic, possibly fatal, world historical… Read more »
John Carter
Guest

That’s right, they can exercise their 1st Amendment Right in the Public Domain.

Jimmy
Guest
I should have added the goal is to repress the dentons and embolden the z mans. Right now things are the other way around, this chaos and dysfunction rule while sanity and wisdom are despised. We’re always going to have taboos on speech. This is why David French can freeze peach all over the place but heavens to murgatroyd if someone wants to say blacks are genetically prone to criminality. And the first amendment is useless if you can be banished from civil society. This is the point about the marriage of corporate and government world that z describes as… Read more »
Edwhy
Guest

Who or what is Trent Denton?

Nori
Guest

Trent Dilfer’s less eloquent bortha.

Alzaebo
Guest

Titanic Douchebag’s brother- and husband, too.

Evan F
Guest

His post reads like a bot someone left running. It adds nothing of value to the discussion on either side, and may detract if he successfully details a conversation. Dump.

Ace Rimmer
Guest

He’s a place holder for what we’re up against. Leave it up to remind ourselves that there is no actual intellectual content in what he’s typing.

volcker
Guest

I don’t know who Tren Dickhole is, but if he is a troll, ban him. I know we can just ignore him, but it gets tedious ignoring the trolls.

jbspry
Guest

Who? Where?

Alzaebo
Guest

I love the piling on- Whooee!!

Member

TD posts the same thing, over and over, no matter the post. I would vote to ban no matter what his politics given that.

walt reed
Guest

Slippery slope.

BlindMan
Guest
Remember how legalizing private homosexual acts was supposedly going to lead to approving homosexual behavior as a lifestyle which was going to lead to teaching children about it which was going to lead to homosexual “marriage” which was going to lead to homosexuals in kids movies which was going to lead to the prime minister of canada being a substitute drama teacher which was going to lead to him covered in glitter matching in the gay parade which was going to lead to legalized bestiality in canada which was going to lead to men in dresses elsewhere which was going… Read more »
Jimmy
Guest

^This is everything and shows you the power of getting the idea behind the taboo right

Reminds me of friendly AI

Severian
Guest

Tell y’all what, I’ll fall on the grenade… I’ll tell everyone to read “Very Smart Bruthas” (whatever the fuck that is; sounds like MC Funnetick Spellyn’s latest Grammy-winning album) at the end of every comment. That way, we still get TD’s “contribution” to the discussion, but without all the rest of the retardation. Oh, and Leonard Pitts, ditto.

Worldly Wiseman
Guest

Keep him. Otherwise my posts take over number one spot for the most downvotes.

calsdad
Guest
I always vote to let the trolls spew their crap. It’s an in-your-face reminder of how ignorant and blissfully stupid the other side is – and if we believe in free speech then we believe in free speech. Also – an echo chamber accomplishes nothing. Similarly to always going up against inferior opponents – you never have a chance to up your game. I see an awful lot of people on the right who’s response in engagements with leftists is just act like like a 5 year old and start calling them names. It’s MUCH more effective – but exhausting… Read more »
Member

There’s a tactical advantage to letting him/it stay. Newcomers to the site who may have a progressive bent will see how absurd TD and his “ideas” are. This may cause them to reconsider their allegiance to the Cult. One can hope.

Member

I’ve never been able to have a conversation with a person who starts calling me a racist as soon as he disagrees with me, especially when the subject has nothing to do with race. Such a person does not want to discuss anything…they want to shout you down. They want to lecture you. They’re not really interested in your point of view. I say ban him and let him go practice his jeremiads elsewhere.

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