Letter To Alt-Right

By all accounts, the alt-right is at a crossroads. The movement that started as an internet phenomenon and blossomed into a full-blown political force in the 2016 election, has stumbled in the past year. Most people peg the start of the trouble at the Charlottesville riots, which were used to paint the alt-right as a bunch of torch wielding Nazis. Others put the blame on the personalities and their endless bickering. Of course, the troubles are exaggerated, but there’s no doubt that the movement is in a difficult patch.

In order for the alt-right to get out of the ditch and become an effective political voice, the leaders of the various groups within the alt-right have to stop screwing up. The number of unforced errors over the last year, by big names in the alt-right, leave people with the impression the movement is not serious. Leaders need to be something more than gags on-line. They have to be a respectable face to a skeptical public. That means being careful and prudent in their public actions. That’s not what has happened over the last year.

The first thing the alt-right needs to do is figure out how it got tangled up with people who turned out to be unstable or unreliable. Starting with Charlottesville, that has been the thread running through all of the stumbles. There’s always a wacko involved. Whether it was a “crying Nazi” at Charlottesville or a tubby cuckold at Michigan, the source of trouble has been people who should never have been given a place at the table. You cannot make up with enthusiasm what you lack in prudence, maturity and intelligence.

Fringe politics can be a lonely place, so it is tempting to welcome everyone, but this is why the Libertarian Party is full of goofballs. The trick is to avoid the temptation to embrace all comers and be skeptical of converts. Some are sincere and full of enthusiasm. These are the foot soldiers that add energy to a movement. Some are attention whores, looking for a cheap stage. Others are unstable loudmouths who like turmoil. A little skepticism about the new converts allows the movement leaders to avoid getting mixed up with nutjobs.

Another way of not inviting the troubles of others into your movement is to not get too close to the other movements. Quiet alliances can be quietly dissolved when they become inconvenient. The alt-right, which largely appeals to college educated suburban males, had no business locking shields with groups like the Traditional Workers Party at public events. Their thing is not your thing and the best way to avoid conflict is to keep a healthy distance. That way, you don’t pay for their mistakes, as has been the case with the TWP.

That’s the other thing that has to be front and center. The groups that have been operating on the fringe for generations have been on the fringe because they are either doing something wrong or they like the fringe. It’s always wise to be cautious of the older groups trying to hitch their wagon to your star. Charlottesville was not about “uniting the right”. It was crabs in the bucket pulling you back down into the bucket with them. A successful mass movement, in this age, will be one that is free of those of the prior age.

Dissident politics, like revolutionary politics, depends upon reliable communication and operational security. In all ages, especially this age, these can come into conflict. Making yourself available to speak to the people, make you vulnerable, and not just physically vulnerable. It makes your message vulnerable to corruption by others beyond your control. Effective communications means controlling the message, which is why the people in charge invest so heavily in monopolizing the media platforms.

Building your own media and supporting the media that supports you is the key. Here is a lesson that can be learned from the New Left. They avoided the mainstream press and instead relied on independent media. They would charge reporters for access to their events. In our age, it means never going on mainstream shows unless they are live, and never agreeing to print interviews. It also means not getting into fights with people on social media. You are the message. Your movement will judged by how you are judged.

This has the added benefit of not inviting attacks from the Left. The last year, from the perspective of an outsider, has looked like the alt-right picking a fight with the people in charge, only to be squashed like a bug. That’s bad optics. When you can’t even hold a luncheon for your people, without being harassed by the Left, it’s time to accept reality and become less public. The alt-right needs to be like an iceberg with a small public face above the water line and large rank and file underneath the water line.

Another thing the alt-right needs to understand is this is not 1920’s Germany or 1960’s America. The people in charge are not weak like the Weimar Republic and they are not complacent like the post-war American ruling class. The Nazis filled the vacuum left from the collapse of German ruling class after the war. The New Left was able to roll to victory because the people in charge at the time, were largely sympathetic and even a bit envious. Today, the people in charge are not weak and they are not sympathetic.

Those movements are not good models for today’s fight. Brawling with state sponsored goons like Antifa is a fool’s errand. Antifa has the backing of the Left and all the money from the billionaires they need. Similarly, demanding to go on campus, on free speech grounds, hoping to shame the Left with their hypocrisy, does nothing but display a fundamental misunderstanding of the opponent. The people running the college campus know that game backward and forward. There’s no beating them at a game they designed.

A better model is something like Irish nationalism. Ultimately, they were effective when they combined a guerrilla movement that operated in the shadows and a political movement that kept its distance from the fighters. We’re not in a world of car bombings and targeted assassinations, but we are in an age when an energetic social media troll can wreak havoc on the prevailing narrative. A guy putting up “It’s OK To Be White” signs around a Progressive hive is the modern version of the car bomb. It does real damage.

That gets to the heart of why the alt-right has stumbled of late. The alt-right had momentum when one wing stuck to making sensible arguments about the demographic reality of our age and what it means for the future. Meanwhile, the other wing took these ideas and used them in the meme war and comment sections of web sites. The reason the people in charge are dumping comment sections and purging social media of anyone with a whiff of heresy is they fear this more than anything. The alt-right needs to get back to what works.

This is a big subject that requires a lot more debate, but effective activism focuses on the effective, not on helping e-celebs get mentioned by Lefty. For dissidents, effective activism makes the strong side look weak and makes the dissidents look smart. If the organizers at Charlottesville had stopped at the Friday night event, and backed out of the rally on Saturday citing safety concerns, the ensuing riot would have been blamed on the other side. You would have effectively used their size against them by being clever.

Of course, the alt-right could only have pulled off such a move at Charlottesville if it was better organized. The overall lack of organization is killing the alt-right. There has to be small local groups of people who trust one another and will cooperate with other local groups, as long as leadership trusts them. This is a basic organizing technique. There should be alt-right clubs all over the country. They should be social clubs that focus on the politics of our age. The alt-right leaders need to focus on this rather than making noise.

Effective organizing means not airing your laundry on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Instagram. One reason competent people are not going to want to help the cause is the ridiculous habit of drama queens from the alt-right making grand announcements on social media. When Evan McLaren wants to move on to other things, he should tender his resignation in private like a man, not post it on Twitter like he is Milo promoting some new media scheme. High quality people do not want any part of this. It has to stop.

Finally, the leaders of the alt-right need to understand that in an information war, the message has to be effective against the target. When Mike Enoch says, “no one has a right to be around white people,” that is highly effective, because it states a simple truth in a way that gets the target audience to think of themselves as white. It speaks to people at a personal level.The whole point of the alt-right, allegedly, is to get white people to think of themselves as white. Anything that distracts from that must be avoided.

Way back in the olden thymes, Buckley Conservatism got going because it spoke to the masses of people revolted by what they saw going on with the Left. Bill Buckley never would have amounted to anything if there was not a willing audience, waiting for someone to provide intellectual leadership. Whatever that brand of conservatism became in the long run, it started as a group of smart guys, who took their task seriously. Most important, they exploited an eager market looking for an alternative to what was emerging on the Left.

The alt-right is in a very similar position. There are millions of white people looking around at what is happening in America, wondering why they are doing this to us. Fundamentally, and most importantly, the message of the alt-right is sound. It offers whites a reason to fight for their interests and cheer for their team. What must come next is a class of respectable spokesman and leaders who add weight to this message and organize people as a political force. It’s time for the alt-right leaders to take the next step or step aside.

Regards,

Z

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“That means being careful and prudent in their public actions.”

If they did this in their private lives everything would resolve itself. Character is Destiny.

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I think that the process of deciding on a leadership is something that should be done in private and not on social media. There is a mob mentality there that has burned many people and driven them into the shadows. Forming a core group that can meet periodically and decide on messaging in a low key manner would be very helpful. Prominent people could be a part of this, but would have to keep quiet about it publicly, as well as in their own media. Sure, they can say what they think generally, but should never direct an outside message… Read more »
Zorost
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You assume we should have leadership at all. Leadership has always been the main point of failure in white nationalism. Part of COINTELPRO is to promote feds or unstable people to positions of leadership; its not a coincidence that the more messed-up a person is the more the media hails them as our leader. Rockwell was the only WN leader that wasn’t a nutjob, a jew, a fag, or a fed. This is why the gov assassinated him. The alt-right has always discussed messaging & tactics in our forums, then people decided what was the best idea and most doable… Read more »
Georgiaboy61
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Re: ” Part of COINTELPRO is to promote feds or unstable people to positions of leadership; its not a coincidence that the more messed-up a person is the more the media hails them as our leader.” The use of morally-compromised people by the powers-that-be is one means by which the ruling elites in the shadows control the political puppets hanging on the end of their strings. Specifically, if politician X has an affinity for a certain sexual or other vice, that vice can provide the leverage necessary to get him/her to fall into line and play ball with the elites… Read more »
Zorost
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That really is some scary stuff, especially when you remember that the FBI et al, were monitoring Trump for compromising info for Obama. Is anyone so naive as to think that our security apparatus just now suddenly realized they could do this, that Trump is the only politician with illicitly gained files in a deep state vault?

DTG
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Excellent post – hopefully will be considered and acted upon by those who either put themselves under the spotlight, or are put under the spotlight by circumstances.

DogoCanario
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I agree that the model of Irish Nationalism is appropriate. Good call, Z.

Slovenian Guest
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Any thoughts on the hipster racist concept?

Hipsterdom seems the best cover for pro whites.

Tax Slave
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That’s the sound of a thousand soy lattes spilling on manicured beards and buffalo plaid shirts in unison.

Kentucky Headhunter
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Is the alt-right a political movement already, or is it more a descriptor of people who generally feel the same way/have similar thoughts about what is happening currently that may eventually get to qualify as a “movement”? Are there really leaders (never heard of Mike Enoch), or are there people who are just louder than others in saying those things?

Maybe I’m just not paying that much attention to it, though I read the Z-man and a couple others everyday.

Wolf Barney
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Before Charlottesville, and during the election season, a lot more identified as alt-right. It was more of a big umbrella term, and described those of us who opposed mass immigration, global free trade, and never-ending foreign entanglements, along with an acknowledgment of racial differences. Now, after C-ville, it’s a narrower group, with lots of talk of a future ethno-state and the JQ, which probably isn’t the best way to win over normies. This group includes Mike Enoch, and the Right Stuff group, along with Richard Spencer, and some others. Enoch and Spencer are really smart guys, but leading rallies isn’t… Read more »
fodderwing
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Wolf, “get the big umbrella back, minus the weirdos” is a contradiction in terms, I think. For a long time now the Left has understood that to have a big umbrella one must include the weirdos, and it has only helped them in the long run. In a few years the demographic writing will be on the wall for all the white folks to see, and their response on the whole will be to drop pretenses and do what is necessary to change the game in their favor. The Big Event is coming, and the current ruckus in the “alt-right”… Read more »
Zorost
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The alt-right is a cultural movement that will pave the way for another group to be the political force. Our mission is to wake people up to their white identity in order to defend ourselves against the ongoing attempt to genocide our race, our culture, and our heritage. It is also to shift the Overton Window, in part so that it becomes permissible to discuss such things openly. We have self-appointed media personalities that the media hails as our leaders. Mike Enoch is one of those who also has a lot of sway within the alt-right as a thought leader.
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I pass the time with some alt right shows and have found few that are serious movement types. Mike Enoch has a few more brain cells than most and pretty boy Spencer should stay behind the scenes. Derbyshire refers to himself as dissident right and I like that. That includes him, Jared Taylor, and some other oldies who give serious heft for opposition. Honestly if Pat Buchanan was younger he still would be the best front man. Even today his writings are good opposition to the craziness with us. Bring most of the troops home, even from Nato countries, moratorium… Read more »
Zorost
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Your short list of who should be the leader of the alt-right is a list of people who have failed. What is it with you oldfags valuing respectability over winning? Respectable people forming political groups to beg the Left to slow down the pace at which whites are genocided has not worked in the past & now it is impossible. We have at most 10 years before the Dems get a permanent lock on the presidency due to demographic change; the only way to stop that is if we deport legal citizens for the color of their skin alone. That… Read more »
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I’m still waiting for you young fags to grow up and quit broadcasting from your bedrooms. Those old guys wrote books, ran political campaigns and even worked in the system for change. Yeah, we still ain’t got nuttin but what has vaping alt boys given us? Tiki marches and internet blood sports.

Zorost
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You admit you “got nuttin” yet still think its a valid strategy. How does that make sense? Broadcasting from our bedrooms, as you call it, has lead to ~15% of whites to agree with us, in spite of being a group that openly advocates for extremely unpleasant solutions. This when we’ve only been public for 2-3 years. We are also the only group that has enough nuts to advocate for those unpleasant solutions, which are the only solutions that will save whites, western culture, & conservatism. No other group even bothers to try to figure out what needs to be… Read more »
Rod1963
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First off, you need credibility and respectability to win over people. Show boating fools like Spencer and his clown car posse ain’t it. Nor is tangling with Anti-fa, etc.

We need men who have real life organizational and PR skills in charge. Not 20 somethings who never have done squat or understand people.

I’d love to have men like Roger Stone, Pat Caddell or Buchanan advising us. Fora front man, someone like Jordan Peterson who is personable, intelligent and can handle himself in a debate.

As it is, the alt-right can’t even organize bake sale at the moment.

Zorost
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“you need credibility and respectability to win over people.” This is why cuckservatives saying “muh respectabilitai” in a Rush Limbaugh voice is a meme in the alt-right. Its amazing just how innocent many of you boomers are about the real world. Many successful politicians lack either of those things. Trump isn’t respectable, and many don’t think he is credible yet he won. How much credibility & respectability did HRC have, yet she won the Dem primary & almost won the general. The alt-right isn’t a political movement, we are a cultural movement. That requires more than just kissing ass to… Read more »
LineInTheSand
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The failure rate of respectability over the last 100 years is 100%. Jared Taylor should be President but after 30 years of activism he can only host a furtive conference. (And I greatly admire Taylor and will be at his conference.) If you think Jordan Peterson or anyone else you mentioned will further our emancipation, you are in a dogmatic slumber and I don’t want to be the one to wake you, although I do grant that it takes guts to risk prison to call a tranny a man.

Zorost
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At least we’d all have clean rooms as the monkeys burned our houses down around us.

Darth Curmudgeon
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There is a technology that we are raised to think of as dirty and immoral, but everyone else uses it. Jordan Peterson poo-poos it at every turn, but not using this technology when everyone else marinates in it is pure suicide. It’s like playing soccer and not touching the ball with our hands when everyone else can and does use their hands.

This technology is called tribalism.

Samuel Nock
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Spencer is personable and should have settled into the role of Dissident Talking Head. His main problem, to put it kindly, is that he lacks self-knowledge. He sees himself as a “natural leader”, which he really is not. He surrounds himself with 20-something Yes Men who will not challenge him and are not up to the task of acting independently of him. If he were a real leader, he would be surrounding himself with a higher caliber of person.

Tykebomb
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The Alt Right should have a guerilla mindset. Note the lack of an ‘O’. Hit them with a big spontaneous stunt and then vanish. The idea is to never let the enemy forget that he is surrounded but not let him personalize the target. The use of symbols within the Overton window is paramount. It can only be as edgy as an infowars sticker on a stop sign. Another trick is to HIDE within, but not join, more innocuous groups. Free speech rallies, anti-PC rallies, Ben Shapiro college talks, as long as another group is organizing, use it to QUIETLY… Read more »
pyrrhus
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I think this column is about the Fake Right, which does have a lot of publicity hounds, and ties to the deep state.
The real alt-right is nationalist and pragmatic, as exemplified in SJWs Always Lie, by Vox Day.

Wheedle
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NSA monitors everything and the FBI is willfully attempting to choose presidential candidates. Any political group rising in popularity has already been placed under the microscope. You are as free as the PTB allow you to be. Even AZTLAN dreams of getting their piece of the USA when this nation falls apart. Armed Americans willing to die for what they believe in are the “wild card”. Who will benefit from your ultimate sacrifice ? The hope will be those who share your beliefs with the ability to keep them.

TomA
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Big Topic. First, recognize that a lot of the stated problems are a direct result of covert subversion by the Left (psyops). Second, whining dependent behaviors are at the root of most personal dysfunction, and that is manifesting in an ever-growing cohort of all races including Caucasians. Third, the quality of leadership is a reflection of the underlying quality of the population. We have to stop the root rot before we can grow and follow better leaders.

Zorost
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“…people who should never have been given a place at the table.” That’s the problem, no one was given anything, they just stepped in & the media declared them to be our leaders. Those the media deem our “leaders” cannot be made to step down & cannot be fired. And trying to do so is counter-productive; a big part of the problem with WN 1.0 was due to wasting massive amounts of time on denouncing each other for being fags, jews, feds, ineffectual, etc. etc. Some in the A-R are currently making this same mistake by trying to denounce the… Read more »
Spud Boy
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“When Mike Enoch says, “no one has a right to be around white people,” that is highly effective,…”

No it’s not. It sounds like racial superiority, and you’ll be tagged as a Nazi. It’s not whiteness that needs to be preserved, it’s Western (and American) culture that needs to be preserved. Often they are synonymous; confusing the two is counterproductive.

daedalusi
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No! The avoid conflict and sneak up on the opponent does not work. We have the cucked, or chameleon, GOP and ‘conservatives’. What exactly is being ‘conserved’ by these respectable people? It is gone. It has been taken. Nazi, Racist, Southener, et.al., will be used because the terms work on the so called ‘leaders’.

Spud Boy
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Stating that the leaders of a particular movement have been ineffective is not a persuasive argument against the underlying philosophy.

Darth Curmudgeon
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A 40 year old pervert can proclaim he is a little girl and use the same bathroom as a 4 year old girl. If you object to this, you can lose your job. Conservatism has conserved nothing. Nothing at all. Conservatives fight for the insane BS the left installed ten years prior to the given moment. Conservatism is controlled opposition being assigned to guard the flank. I prefer the label Traditionalism, at least for now. Those are at least fixed values, not just whatever is slightly to the right of the far left. Sodom is at this point slightly to… Read more »
Roulf
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There IS no “Western (and American) culture” without Whites.

Spud Boy
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Who do you consider white? If you listen to nutbags like Vox Day, unless you can trace your ancestry to the Welsh or some such bullshit, you’re not white. Even southern Europeans, like the Greeks, yes the Greeks who invented democracy, are not white. Good luck attracting followers to that nonsense.

Wolf Barney
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Whites are the ones who were the 87 percent majority pre-1965.

Rod1963
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Dude, the Left already tags anyone who is a Trump supporter as a Nazi or racist to begin with.

Georgiaboy61
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Re: “When Mike Enoch says, “no one has a right to be around white people,” that is highly effective,…” “No it’s not. It sounds like racial superiority, and you’ll be tagged as a Nazi. It’s not whiteness that needs to be preserved, it’s Western (and American) culture that needs to be preserved. Often they are synonymous; confusing the two is counterproductive.” The issue needs to be framed properly, but the fact that people of European ancestry – white people, if you will – are now de facto second-class citizens in a nation that their ancestors founded, is worthy of debate… Read more »
LineInTheSand
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There is no avoiding the fact that whites wanting to be left alone will sound like white supremacy. I can’t tell if you’re disavowing identity politics or not but the only way out is to embrace identity politics. Agree and amplify.

Observer
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Oh great.
More anonymous faggots on the sidelines giving strategic & tactical advice to the people out playing the game.

Badger
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Read your essays quite often & reaction can run the gamut. This is a pretty damned good – and timely – piece of writing. Thanks for taking the time to pen that.

Matrix
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The problem with conservatism as a whole is that it is about leading your own life in a manner that benefits you and your family. Hopefully out of that you make a strong community and nation. When you are busy trying to carve out something significant in your life, activism is extremely difficult. When I got into this, there was only and still is, a few hot-button topics that I really care about, immigration, post-modernism, global entanglements. Conservatism now means, cheap labor, war on the world, open borders, and supporting (((allies))) that have their own agenda.

Member

“Small local groups” are just what are needed. But where are they? I live in the Chicago suburbs. In comment sections, I occasionally encounter commenters (using pseudonyms, as do I) who reveal that they are also in the area. I have never met any of these people and very likely never will. How do we create these face-to-face networks? Once you’re no longer in school the opportunities to meet like-minded people for political (especially dissident political) ends are very limited.

NotTheMayor
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MBlanc46, I live in downtown Chicago. Suburban gun ranges and Republican meet ups usually attract a few of us. It’s a challenge. My wife and I hold lucrative positions and we need the income. If doxxed, we would lose our livelihoods here, so I even utilize pseudonyms, burner phones and proxies when attempting to connect with the like-minded locally. Quite a number of purported dissident right are law enforcement types — do we let them know us or do we exclude them necessarily?

Mike@Mike.Mike
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I would exclude law enforcement types. When push comes to shove they will always defend their pensions first. In that regard they are informants for the state. Take the Second City Cop blog, the two guys that run that blog seem like fairly realistic men of the right, until 1 of 2 topics come up: Pensions; then you may as well be reading the rantings of a blue haired land whale screeching for free birth control, or police shootings; where it’s “The police are always justified in shooting unarmed, whimpering men lying prone in a motel hallway after having conflicting… Read more »
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Like any other category of people, you have to pick and choose. Not every cop is a good guy, but some of them likely share our views.

Member

I find the Repub Party to be too despicable to associate with (and I say that as someone who grew up in a DuPage County Repub family). Gun ranges are a pretty good suggestion, though. I’ve been thinking of going to the local range just to have some fun. Possibly meeting sympatico folks is another reason for doing it. Thanks.

Mr. Frosty
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“The alt-right, which largely appeals to college educated suburban males” Really? They all seem to be either hipsters or wiggers around here. Either they’ve given up on masculinity or they over-embrace it in the wrong way. The alt-right lacks appeal to young men for the same reason modern Christianity is bereft of male youth. Young men are looking for someone to teach them how to be men. Boomers and GenX have failed miserably at this, 40+ year old boys cannot teach you how to be a man. Islam is advancing because of its appeal to raw masculinity. Mosques are overflowing… Read more »
Reed Hill
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I’ve found a fair amount of success in getting the young guys outside with the dads for camping/hiking events that include shooting sports, riding the ATVS and some basic martial arts/self-defense. Sometimes fishing or frisbee golf or something, weather permitting. Those activities coupled with BBQ and some short life lessons and stories from some of the dads. Depending on the group, we incorporate some wisdom from the good book without going overboard. Phones are put away for the most part and most of the feedback we get is very positive. This used to be called the “Boy Scouts” but now… Read more »
Member
A clandestine cell structure/organization (preferably fault-tolerant) is necessary for the majority of supporters who would like to be active, as anything less secure will lead to the SJWs and deep staters destroying any who come on their radar. Not just for marxists anymore. I don’t see any alt-right figure with the background or stony resolve to execute such. It is drudgery relative to video interviews, blogging, podcasts, and the like. Part of the alt-right’s problem is that they thought the old rules were still in effect: law & order, fair play, gov’t a neutral arbiter and enforcer of laws. This… Read more »
Dupont Circle
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“he just had never tasted illegitimate power being used against him so personally”

His mother was harassed by a jewish real estate agent in Whitefish. Spencer himself was dinged from a ski club before that.

Come to think of it, he was thrown out of fitness club in Alexandria, VA, by a crazy female Georgetown professor. Actually, she got him thrown out from the black-owned gym. This was right after the 2016 election.

On top of all this there were obsessives protesting his presence in an office in old town Alexandria. Every day outside his office, for months, yelling and carrying signs.

Member

I should have written “illegitimate _govt_ power.”

Issac
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“Today, the people in charge are not weak and they are not sympathetic.” This succinctly puts a point on the issue. Dissident movements without upper class components don’t go anywhere. Every revolution or reform from left to right has this and that class always plays the pivotal (if not largest or most visible) role in producing a means by which insurmountable institutions become vulnerable. The right has nothing until it has upper class patronage. The most important question is now “how monolithic is the upper class?” If no members of it are persuaded, the right will need to accept globalism… Read more »
regularjoeski
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Alt-right may be in the position of the non-absolutists after Waterloo. The current regimen is the French Bourbons after restoration. They have learned nothing and forget nothing. They are committed to suppression of opposing views, the weakness is that progressives are not good for running an economy. It will take a new generation to overcome. Mocking them does seem to be the best way to push back.

Tim
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Subtlety and stealth have their purposes. James Watson’s great book on DNA includes an anecdote about a dauschund who snuck up on a sleeping Great Dane and created a
Litter of great dauschhunds. We could do worse than emulating the “doughty dauschund” as Watson calls him.

Tim
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Doughty Dauschund was the
Term… Tim

Primi Pilus
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Timely comment Z-Man. Many excellent thoughts in the comment section also. I came to this discussion some years back as one who subscribed to National Review and Weekly Standard. I read their articles, followed Jonah Goldberg, William Chrystal and all the rest. I eagerly consumed their analysis and prescriptions. I began to wander a bit, however, as I realized they were doing something I didn’t understand, and I began reading farther afield. I don’t profess to grasp this particular movement well, but I did come to see that there had to be something besides the good old GOP. So, A… Read more »
Vicente
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Nice & cogent comments, but there must be a racial component or your propsed org. Is just a different version of the GOP.

Primi Pilus
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Thank you. I do firmly believe critical characteristics that animate(d) our culture, nation and people do track back to those Europeans who originally set Western culture on this continent, and who structured our independence. I certainly don’t see myself as capable of pronouncing finally on to what degree that’s racially driven, though I do believe there is some (likely significant) connection — the English and Scots-irish certainly are key to what distilled out. Is there a biological component — probably so. But there’s also a socialization aspect, and that is critical too to our survival. I am inclined to believe… Read more »
Zorost
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Actually it was the jewish intelligentsia that founded the attack on America. Look into the Frankfurt School. White intelligentsia are just playing along to get tenure and to be seen as part of the ‘smart set’. Kevin MacDonald’s “Culture of Critique” series of books is also excellent. “Perhaps an attractive idea, but that’s not going to happen through “normal” legal or political processes.” I address this in my reply to you above. Short summary: the “normal legal & political processes” inevitably leads to the Democratic party having total power within 10-15 years due to demographic change. No amount of allying… Read more »
The Beakman
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Primi Pilus, your commentaries here are the best I have read on the subject since poking my head in the tent so few years ago. They articulate what I have seen and believe throughout my own experience but fail to express properly for lack of my own articulation.
You have much to teach. Please stay on board, keep your nom de guerre the same wherever you travel, and live long.

Zorost
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A lot of great ideas, I really appreciate the effort that went into this post. I disagree with you on a few key areas, however. ======= “…this can’t be primarily about RACE.” “The latter — the myth, the story, the idea needed to rally people, is already there, in the original and traditional idea of America.” The 1st is wrong, and is contradicted by the 2nd quote. The founding myth of the alt-right is an ethnostate made up by and for white people; this was also the founding myth of our nation. The original immigration act restricted citizenship to ‘free… Read more »
Zorost
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Whites are the only race that in the majority supports conservative issues: http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/old-assets/pdf/gun-control-2011.pdf http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/06/11/multiracial-in-america/st_2015-06-11_multiracial-americans_06-04/ Some reading material: http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/ http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/ethnic-diversity-and-social-cohesion/ ======= The next time a democrat wins the presidency they will open the borders & flood swing states with non-whites. Due to the hurricane FLA took in more puerto ricans than Trump won the state by, so that is already gone. TX is teetering on the edge of becoming blue. The end result is a permanent lock on the presidency, and an increasing lock on Congress, leading quickly and inevitably to America being a 1-party nation with that party being a… Read more »
Jummy
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What the alt-right, new right, has right now is the people who show up before a real movement happens. Everyone standing around in that space waiting for a movement to happen is as much a leader as a follower. The stumbles we’ve seen are what it looks like when Enrico Palatzo doesn’t show up to the ballgame and the crowd tries their best to sing the anthem. That’s why it doesn’t seem particularly useful to scold the people who are doing stuff badly. Nobody seems to have a clear idea of what doing it well might look like. What is… Read more »
Primi Pilus
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Yes!!! Exactly. Any real movement to preserve and re-invogorate America is now poised at that awkward point where either effectively moving forward, or passing from the stage stand opposed in the lists.

Gerard Van der Leun
Member

“The first thing the alt-right needs to do is figure out how it got tangled up with people who turned out to be unstable or unreliable.”

I’d say the better “first “thing to do is to get a better name. “Alt-Right” is just too flat in affect and unconvincing in subject. I mean, what is alt to the right? Sounds like a muffled military command. “Left shoulder arms! alt-right shoulder arms!”

Eliminate the negative and muddled effects of having to say “Alt-Right” i.e. “Was that ‘Halt Right’?”

ensitue
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keep in mind that many tyrants got their start as stooges and controlled opposition for the societies they later over-threw, pushing an ‘Alt’ movement invites such a fate. The USConst. has the framework for the usurpation of a Criminal Govt. via legal means.
Have Faith

Member

Zman: “When Mike Enoch says, “no one has a right to be around white people,” that is highly effective, because it states a simple truth in a way that gets the target audience to think of themselves as white.”

Agree. Enoch’s statement was strategically counterintuitive, but indeed, “highly effective”. It’s the kind of whiplash provocative that can turn heads around (in both the figurative and intellectual sense). Very punk rock. Malcolm McLaren would’ve immediately understood and approved.

What a gem this entire post was.

Drake
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Charlottesville is a great example of what we are up against. All accounts of the “riot” point to a purposeful ambush that was arranged through antifa and police cooperation.

The death blamed on an alt-right driver was pretty clearly the result of him being chased by an armed antifa nut.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/armed-antifa-professor-admits-chasing-charlottesville-driver-rifle-deadly-crash/

But the opposition owns the media, so instead we hear about a white supremacy riot that killed an innocent. (And notice we haven’t heard a peep about James Fields’ trial?).

Tax Slave
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Zman: you should have thrown in a side reference to the JQ. Then you’d really have these punks foaming at the mouth. (now watch the needle go negative! Bwahahahaha!)

LineInTheSand
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You sound nervous.

james wilson
Guest

As Tocqueville observed, not only is universal suffrage the worst element of democratic government, but also a revolutionary instrument for the disturbers of society. Z writes that it is important not to play on the other guys playing field, but they own the ultimate playing field. If right wing minds worship democracy less than others, and I don’t know that they do, they still worship it. What is the path around or through that?

Zeroth Tollrants
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All sound advice that I believe you can see has already begun to be instituted. The “turtling,” effect of members began immediately after C’ville for most, and the removing of fringe elements and going to ground has continued for most of the rest
The public drama on social media is just unforgivable, IMO. I do not understand it and find it to be shockingly bad character judgment. Like a bunch of teen drama queens!

Berty
Guest

LOL at anyone defending fatass goon Heimbach and his army of ugly neckbeards. They were losers who would drag everyone else down.

Ned2
Member

Most of the alt-right appear to many of us to be simpleton Marxists.
Charlottesville was a complete joke organised by the same assholes that organised Occupy Wall St.

Most of us aren’t going to “join” an organisation to push an agenda. The way we live and behave with others does that for us. And when the time comes to eradicate the problem, we’re able, ready and willing to execute the task.

Zorost
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More people in the alt-right are libertarian than any other ideology, not sure where you are getting your info from. 1 guy had also been involved in Occupy, but it was partially his experiences with those people that drove him away from the Left. The only flaw in cville’s organization was not realizing the cops would conspire with antifa to attack us. It was still a huge victory for us, considering the reaction of people to the media and to Trump’s speech shortly afterwards. The Boston rally which was done in reaction to Cville was also a huge win for… Read more »
LineInTheSand
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You are a fool if you think the same people who organized Occupy organized Cville!

Cville was a reasonable attempt to move the alt right from the online world to the real world. There was no way to know ahead of time that the authorities would support antifa. Further, if the alt right had been cautious and not attempted Cville, you would be criticizing them for not taking their movement into the real world.

Ned2
Member

Story here:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/15/report-splc-charlottesville-racist-former-occupy-activist-obama-supporter-jason-kessler/

Protests are for spoiled children and useful idiots. Grown ups do things differently.
Tell me, what exactly IS the alt-right movement. I see so many different views on what it is or is supposed to be, but haven’t figured it out yet. There’s no message, no plan and no cohesion.

Charlottesville was an abortion. Organised by Marxists, and you all fell into the trap like morons. Kessler played y’all like a fiddle.

Zorost
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You need to stop getting your info from the MSM, especially re: the alt-right. They aren’t exactly fair in their reporting or diligent in their research. People in the alt-right come from many walks of life and past ideologies. Kessler has explained his journey from Occupy to the alt-right, you can find it if you really care. Cville was a victory for the alt-right; the only way we could have lost is if the media didn’t cover it. The alt-right is a cultural movement whose end-goal is a white ethnostate. To advance that goal we wake people up to our… Read more »
FaCubeItches
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“We’re not in a world of car bombings and targeted assassinations”

The Irish Republicans were at their most effective when they stopped killing people and started using bombs to do massive economic damage. Blowing up a few police or soldiers is one thing, but doing a couple billion in damage to the UK’s financial hub was very much another.

Nem
Guest

The movement just returned to the better place it was before the election: redpilling from the shadow.
Not the Alt-right, but Alt-right rethoric is everywhere now, Jewish awareness is high and political parties who project the message are also on the rise.
So, if anything, this slow down of things is more of a consequence of this unending winter, the SJW, Liberals and Petersonians are also quiet, for some months now. Of course, the censorship is there, but things don’t need to be Ultra all the time.

Zorost
Guest

Agreed.
Most public stuff about the Alt-right is nonsense, the real work is done by people in the shadows, not our media-anointed “leaders” creating drama.

Arch Stanton
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Discussions of ‘optics’, organization, etc., is all sonewhat useful, but the most important factor of any nascent movement is the bandwagon factor. What issue will normies & the mostly clueless readily get behind in an organic fashion? As DJT’s election has shown, the clearest, easiest to grasp bandwagon factor is stopping immigration. Stopping all immigration, not just the illegal form. Even the HB2-ish stuff, and similar work-related immigration. Stopping immigration vaulted Trump into the White House. If the alt right groups, even the bozos, can coalesce around one issue , stoppng all immigration, then they’ve got a great bandwagon. I’m… Read more »
Zorost
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Thanks for noticing our contribution 🙂

The trouble is that even with 0% immigration and 100% immigration enforcement our nation’s existing demographics guarantee that we become a 1-party state in the next decade or 2.

Arch Stanton
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That’s a pretty bold assertion. Massive, forced deportation, under the current political system, isn’t going to happen. What then? I am sincere in seeking your opinion

LineInTheSand
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The dissolution of the USA into ethnic regions probably can’t be avoided.

Zorost
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As you say, it’s impossible to do under our current political and cultural system. This is why we seek to change the culture. If we can get a critical mass of whites to realize we face extinction and that this extinction was intentionally engineered, a solution will present itself. People have theorized what such a solution would look like, but it will depend on many variables such as how many whites agree with us, what opportunities present themselves, how stable the nation is at that time, etc.

Johnmark7
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My problem with the slow and steady building up the grassroots strategy is that it will be too late to save the people. The question is the money problem. With money, you can accomplish great goals and get good leaders because no one wants fools handling the finances (and the money attracts better people with skills). Some source of greater amounts of money needs to be found. Small businesses that can provide decent incomes for the owners and their employees need to be created so that people don’t have to face having been doxxed and losing everything. Also to pay… Read more »
Zorost
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The Left has always been our best ally.

katzkiner
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The most successful SJW of our time did not come on with the hammer sickle, raised left fist shouting “kill White babies!” No, he came on as a decent family man who’s motus operandi was “forsake the radical pose for the radical ends”. White stand no chance of achieving anything when they are accompanied by swastika’s, crosses and leather clad skin heads. There is a real need for White Advocacy and standing up to those who hate the White race, but if you show up with the above accessories you make it to easy for the SPLC, ADL, BLM, ect.… Read more »
Zorost
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This is what much of the discord in the past year has been about. It gets complicated because different audiences requires different messages. Nazism is good for triggering the Left into frothing displays that marginalizes them and pushes normies in our direction, and for appealing to a certain segment of the youth that wants to seem edgy. But its not very useful when trying to appeal to normies. But it is useful for shifting the Overton window so that normies will be more receptive to a position that is between nazism and the current republican party.

lallo
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The alt-right may want to decide whether they want to keep going with the fascist thing. A distinguishing feature of the white race seems to be the F**Y** instinct that is, the innate refusal of not having anyone to tell them what to do. I have heard enough of Mike Enoch to wonder which side he would be if he really had to make a choice, say if he happened to find himself in a situation like Italy 1944. I am not sure he would be with the fascists; not all partisans were communists. The dissident right will have to… Read more »
A b c d
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“Content creator”, “leader/organizer”, “public figure” and “intellectual” are not the same thing. These roles overlap in our thing, to our detriment. Sometimes a leader/organizer is also a public figure, but often not. A public figure gives a speech to a crowd of normies to convince them vote for him for city council. His speech is informed by the work of intellectuals, and content creators amplify and augment his messaging. A leader is usually a guy nobody in the crowd has heard of, who convinced an upstart trash company to underwrite all of this with an implied promise of a city… Read more »
Member

The ego of Steve Bannon sunk his influence. He should have known he did not possess the persona and marketability of President Trump. He should have remained mostly behind the scenes manipulating the alt-right message instead of trying to rebrand himself as the Face of Change. Charlottesville was going to happen somewhere sooner or later in reality or as a False Flag deception. Stay focused, March on and don’t let the Marxist/Communist rattle you into a bad move.

Quicksilver75
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There were little clues that C’Ville would be a train wreck. Eg. The promotional poster was styled in WW2 German iconography. There is a masochistic faction in the Alt Right who try to tether retconning Naziism w/ the project of saving Western countries from demographic doom. It is unwise, to put it mildly & makes our task infinitly harder. Pretty much everything you write in this Letter is spot on. Great post Z Man !

Diane D
Guest

“leaders’ is mentioned 37 times, yet not one name is mentioned. How politically correct can one get? Stop dancing and start communicating.

Sam J.
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I disagree with ZMans ideas here. Not because he’s not right…for him. He’s not the only type of White person in the US and it heartens some Whites to see White people in the streets fighting off the anti-Whites and creating cognitive dissonance trouble for them. I think ANY pressure from any source attacking anti-Whiteness is good. Visible violent confrontation with anti-Whites is good for Whites. Win or lose. People see this and even the most genteel of Whites see that some are really pissed about this and they also see the lack of justice people like them receive when… Read more »
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