The Death of the Alt-Right

I’m fond of saying, we learn more from failure than success. Anyone who has been fired from a job or had a career set back learns this lesson. In addition to learning what not to do, you learn something about yourself and your ability to handle adversity. Coming home without a job means re-evaluating everything about your life. Nothing focuses the mind quite like the thought of homelessness. On the other hand, once you get through it, you discover that you are more resilient and resourceful than you previously knew.

That’s something Richard Spencer and the people associated with him should keep in mind as they figure out where to go now. The story arc of the alt-right, at least this chapter, is coming to a close. The decision by GoDaddy to confiscate his domain, at the urging of a coven of black women, is the final insult. The symbolism of this was not lost on Spencer’s former allies. The always classy Jared Taylor mentioned it last week and Greg Johnson jumped on it as well. The alt-right is at rock bottom right now, without a lot of friends.

The good news for the alt-right is their basic message still resonates with their target audience, so they can have a second act. The fact is, the alt-right was always just a younger, more explicit iteration of paleoconservatism. Those old guys operated in a world that had always been more than 80% white, so they took that as a given. The younger generation is fully aware of current demographics and where it is heading. Otherwise, the foundation of paleoconservatism and the alt-right are the same – race realism.

That’s another bit of irony. The alt-right may be finished, but the reality of race and identity is blossoming. Everyday more and more people take note of what’s happening in the country and in the culture. The Left has done us a huge favor by making miscegenation their preferred method of selling product. Millions of middle-class white fathers have suddenly found it necessary to have the talk with their kids, particularly their teenage daughters. In the end, our best asset may be the triumphalism of our enemies.

That means the demise of the alt-right probably makes very little difference. Whatever aspirations Richard Spencer had for his movement, it never could get beyond being a pithy marketing label. Whether it was timing, the changing political landscape or his own shortcomings as an organizer, it never moved from internet aesthetic to a real world organization. The berserk black ladies, who got his domain seized, may have done us all a favor by killing off something that should have died after the 2016 election.

That does not mean the alt-right cannot come back, after a hiatus and refit. History is full of political movements that sputtered and coughed in the early going, only to emerge as a real force. Again, we learn more from failure than success. On the other hand, other organizations can learn from the failure of the alt-right and avoid making the same mistakes. The people behind Identity Evropa seemed to have gone to school on the failure of the alt-right. Sometimes, the best you can be is a warning for others.

As far as Spencer, his career is in a ditch at the moment. Everyone is lining up to kick him while he is down, which is unfortunate. Whatever his failings, it took a lot of courage to be the face of the alt-right. He is someone who has always had plenty of attractive options in his life. He could just as easily been a college professor or magazine writer. He did not have to make himself the face of an identity movement. Yeah, he has less to lose than a guy with a mortgage and a career, but he had better options too.

Fitzgerald wrote “There are no second acts in American lives” but he was completely wrong about that. America is the land of second and third acts. A man with talent and tenacity can overcome a lot of failures and wrong turns. Richard Spencer has a ton of talent and personal charisma. He is still young, so he has time to pick himself up, dust himself off and begin his second act. GoDaddy confiscating his intellectual property may have been a glessing. He’s now free to begin creating something new.

That’s the thing people need to come to terms with in this age of upheaval. These movements that spring up are just pieces on the game board. The great battle is between the old thinking of egalitarianism and the new thinking of biological realism. The movements that spring from these two tectonic forces are temporary manifestations. A group like Black Lives Matter will have a run and then implode. The alt-right has had its run and has dissolved. Something new will replace it and new people will lead it.

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Issac
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The alt-right name has to go and take the taint with it. Spencer will doubtless continue to participate in politics as a rodeo clown, but whatever groups follow after the alt-right should know better than to associate with him, Anglin, Weev, Kessler, Enoch, etc. Agent provocateurs showed themselves by the dozens in the last year and those who avoided them have prospered.

Thankfully Jared Taylor’s white advocacy hasn’t been totally destroyed by the above’s malign stupidity and/or sabotage.

kerdasi amaq
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kerdasi amaq

If the media are told to do a hatchet job on you; they’ll demonise whatever name you use, no matter how innocuous.

Dirtnapninja
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Dirtnapninja

The alt-right was like a supernova. Its star blazed very bright, and very brief and once its fuel (the trump election and the aftermath) ran out, its own internal forces caused it to explode. But its story doesnt end.. it leaves behind a very dense remnant, and this singularity warps the culture around it. The supernova also leaves a nebula of cultural and political debris, and in this nebula many new stars are forming. The culture has been permanently altered by the alt-right. Even the Enemy feels it. Ideas are always more popular then movements, and the ideas and issues… Read more »

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As you said, the best thing is that the message is still spreading, despite even the censorship, and reality is too strong of a force helping.
Brands are expendable.

Sadly, I’ve been seeing more and more people polarizing without knowing. For instance, I know of a guy who’s literally an ideological Nazi, but he doesn’t know that and even thinks Nazism was a bad thing.
Or this girl who calls herself ‘apolitical’, but identifies as a feminist, egalitarian, and open-border advocate, thinking there’s nothing political in any of that, it’s just “normal”.

Tamaqua
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Tamaqua

They made more than a few mistakes that destroyed any momentum that they had. First, they took themselves way too seriously when they had their greatest successes as merry pranksters online. They had way more impact by trolling the Left into sputtering idiocy and pointing out the Left isn’t hip, edgy or funny anymore. Second, they failed to understand that goading the Left online with “Nazi” memes ironically opened the door for idiot true believers like the trailer trash TWP morons to hitch a ride and lead them to the fatal error- Charlottesville. They thought they could match the Left… Read more »

Swrichmond
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Virtually any right wing, nationalist or conservative breakout movement is doomed to be immediately and heavily infiltrated by government informants and agents provocateur, then to be redirected and molded into something else. Charlottesville was a setup, by the Virginia and Charlottesville governments, from the get go. Certainly many cooperating feds there as well. The police were there to enable violence, and when it didn’t sufficiently escalate they acted to escalate it. Wouldn’t have believed it had I not seen it for myself. Extremely obvious, no other possible explanation. Discredit the right. I’ll never trust any policeman again, not that they… Read more »

Jummy
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Jummy

Probably three in four accounts at Gab are shills. You can see the wedges being driven. This Patrick Little guy who nobody had heard of before last week. It really feels like a mop-up operation is underway.

Tamaqua
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Tamaqua

And that proves my point. You don’t fight the enemy on his chosen battlefield. Not from a position of weakness, with uncertain leadership. The alt-right got cocky and too full of itself and learned that they were in no way ready to play in the big leagues, and you can’t blame that on infiltration or provocateurs. That’s on self-appointed leaders more interested in self promotion, media attention and enrichment than in building something viable. That’s the problem with the alt-right, they’re mostly hucksters looking to make a buck.

Zorost
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Zorost

The only thing we weren’t ready for was an alliance between antifa and government. The attempt was still worth it, as it woke a fair number of people up to the nature of the threat against whites. See swrichmond’s post above. It also triggered shitlibs to an unbelievable degree, leading to massive intrusions into the 1A (incl trying to ban a website from existing anywhere on the internet), antifa chimpouts across the nation, journalists screeching about Hitler, etc. etc.

bogbeagle
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bogbeagle

All Government is “of the Left” … in that, all Government is Collectivist.

Zorost
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Zorost

Actually the alt-right won every street battle even when heavily outnumbered except cville when the cops chose to side with antifa. Many in the alt-right at those events were combat vets.

The problem is that the cost of street violence is currently not worth it, I think we put the cart before the horse. You don’t do violence for the sake of violence but to accomplish something. I have a feeling that 2018 midterms will have a lot of street violence as Leftists try to control polling locations as they did in 2016 CA primaries.

Maxden
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It’s far more than that. Making the criticism of Jewish influence in culture and politics a large part of your bedrock is one thing. If it stopped at that it would have been a valid edge added onto paleoconservatism. But featuring Julius Streicher-like polemics, major Holocaust denial, alliance with the most kook of the Nazizoid strains in the American right, Nazi-like gestures, marching with “Jews will not replace us” placards was a major error, moral as well as political. Organizing a conference in Budapest with an explicitly antisemitic party, Jobbik, and a publishing house that puts out Hitler adulation books… Read more »

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

The Alt Right is dead but Sam Harris is now a certified SPLC racist. It’s the ideas.

Cerulean
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Cerulean

What were Spencer’s mis-steps and mistakes? (Think about the Santayana quote about history.)

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Although I hear unconfirmed rumors about Spencer’s vices, his only public mistake was believing that the first amendment allowed him to schedule a college speaking tour.

His Heilgate speech was bleeding-edge provocative, but I think he was surprised when 5 guys did the salute.

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“Hail Victory” was all his, the idiot.

It’s hard to see how Charlottesville was an “Alt-Right mistake”, as the alt-Right was hardly present, probably because it hardly existed in the first place. There were Pepe’s on the posters, but I didn’t see any on the shields or anyplace else.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Whatever the name is, the foundation of our movement, race realism, won’t die. Once you understand black, there’s no going back.

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good stuff

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A couple of people associated with it does not constitute a failure because of their falling brand. Enoch and Spencer and a few others are being Lawfared out, more to come.

As you know Z, there is alot more to this then just the new alt theme that is among us. Ours is still a dissident right, and as mentioned Paleos are still around and pushing, and they are not all old guys.

Right now I am more concerned about Trump and his failings.

FellowDissident
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FellowDissident

Spencer’s web domain is parked, not confiscated. GoDaddy cannot unilaterally appropriate a web domain that is paid-up. GoDaddy has merely deigned not to continue hosting the domain. Spencer is free to transfer the domain to another registrar and host. I may be willing to assist as legal counsel in this regard should it prove necessary.

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Oddly enough I moved my domain from GoDaddy to Squarespace yesterday.

FellowDissident
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FellowDissident

GoDaddy can implement delay tactics and compel Spencer to lodge court proceedings if it chooses. I suspect Spencer has access to means of forcing domain registrar and domain hosting transfer. It can cost less than 10k usd.

The progressives may very well attempt to discourage Spencer because repurposing altright decimal com would be a feather in their propaganda hat.

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

When you register and pay for a domain name, then use a virtual host (Go Daddy) for the site, I assume that you are the legal owner of the domain name, not the virtual host. Is this not correct?

calsdad
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calsdad

If you do a WHOIS lookup on “altright.com” – this is what comes back from ICANN: —- Original Query: altright.com Raw WHOIS Record Domain Name: altright.com This domain name has been suspended due to invalid Whois information. If you are the registrant of this domain name please contact us at: invalidwhois@secureserver.net. The data contained in GoDaddy.com, LLC’s WhoIs database, while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided “as is” with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining information about domain name registration records. Any use… Read more »

Bruno the Arrogant
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Spencer still has his https://www.radixjournal.com site up. I’m not sure how much this actually hurts him. As far as I can tell, altright.com never really took off as a concept, and it was down almost as often as it was up. Mostly, this falls under “public humiliation”. altright.com never became a central hub of the movement that Spencer envisioned, but seizing the “altright.com” domain could be viewed as “capturing the flag”. It’s a slap in the face, but it’s not really debilitating. Has Spencer made any public statement? He seems to have disappeared, or maybe he’s just maintaining radio silence… Read more »

Xzy
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Xzy

He said on AltRight dot com’s Gab feed that the site would be back up later.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

The “Alt Right” was just a pseudonym for “White Nationalism.” Whatever other cleverly ambiguous terms we may craft for marketing reasons, the inescapable necessity is White Nationalism. Even if you can’t say it out loud, say it in your heart. Nothing else will save us.

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I don’t want to say White Nationalism out loud, no. But I’m not fond of saying it to myself either. To paraphrase Derbyshire on what to call ourselves. “Race is just one concept important to us, sharing space with others such as liberty, sovereignty, science, and constitutionalism, and I don’t think it should be privileged.”

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton

“I don’t want to say White Nationalism out loud, no.” With all due respect to you and others, this attitude is why the alt right/alt whatever is never going to gain any significant and widespread acceptance. You (and others) are still operating, still thinking within their frame. You don’t want to call yourself a White Nationalist because it might: cause you stress, be met with scorn by others, subject you to criticism by colleagues, etc. Which, essentially, means you are still living your life within THEIR frame of what is acceptable behavior & acceptable thinking. Until people are willing to… Read more »

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Arch: ” Until people are willing to call themselves “white nationalists” or “race realists’ and be willing to subject themselves to the initial pushback (which will be considerable), very little progress will be made.” Your “initial pushback” is my life and career being destroyed. I actually have a good thing going and I’m not going to blow it up over the word “white”. I won’t be declaring myself “race or white” anything. That’s a great way to get people to tune you out, at worst. Or at best, to write you off as hopelessly flakey. Like a dude with a… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

Dissident right is the best umbrella term thus far.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

If “Dissident Right” becomes a popular term then the media will give it the same treatment they gave to “Alt Right.” “Dissident Right is Nazism!”

Although there are some short term tactical advantages to inventing euphemisms for our ideas, at some point we have to face the fact that whatever name we choose will be vilified.

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“We have to face the fact that whatever name we choose will be vilified.” That’s just a linguistic truism. And we do face that fact. But we gotta have a name. You don’t buy a Pit Bull and think, “I’m not gonna name him ’cause people are just gonna think he’s a killer anyway.” I’m ok with Alt-Right or Dissident Right. I prefer Dissident Right because it sounds kinda badass. It sounds like “Fuck Off!” There’s no apology in it. Plus my favorite band as a teenager was Judas Priest and they have a great song called “Dissident Aggressor”. Later… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

“Dissident Aggressor” was amazing, as was Slayer’s cover.

Is you name any reference to Robert Fripp?

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Cool. You a metal fan? No reference to Robert Fripp. But I do have an album by Fripp & Eno called “No Pussyfooting”. Maybe that could be our motto. The Dissident Right, no pussyfooting.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

My unfortunate neighbors just heard the Priest and Slayer versions. I don’t listen to metal much anymore, but damn, that song ignites my martial spirit.

Exploding, reloading, this quest never ending
Until I give out my last breath!

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Totally dude, funny.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton

Let me try this another way. If one accepts the premise that, at it’s heart, the (alt right, dissident right, pick-your-identifier) is white identity politics, then the only way for (white identity politics) to gain any traction is for public discussions of same to at least become somewhat acceptable and not engender screeching from the media, your neighbors and the usual suspects. Or lead to job loss. I understand that most of us don’t want to endure all the push-back. But someone or a group of someones is going to have to take the bullets that will inevitably be cast… Read more »

(((Cohencidence)))
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(((Cohencidence)))

I’m sure your grandchildren will take heart that you didn’t want to fuck up your career by acknowledging the truth. That should take some of the sting out of the Zimbabwe 2.0 hellscape they’re likely to live in.

Lugh
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Lugh

Yeah really. Some people have to play it cool and some take the heat. When are people going to get the idea of different roles?

Thorsted
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Thorsted

The “Alt-right” has never had a chance to live-so it is not dead. To solve these problems within the political framework has gone to far that it cannot be done. Enoch Powell saw that in 1979. Enoch Powell – “Let It Go On Until the Civil War Comes” ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dRuPPSKNhE

Wilburn Sprayberry
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Wilburn Sprayberry

Your obituary is premature. Spencer is down, not out. If he is not too encumbered by legal troubles this fall I expect a successful NPI conference, back at the Reagan Center, though hotel rooms will probably have to be booked by individual attendees, b/c of the far more hostile post Hailgate & Charlottesville climate. It’s quite the thing to rage on Spencer now (not you, but plenty of others), but I believe he still can serve a useful, and important role in the pro-white movement. I ask my young friends to understand you don’t need to like Spencer to work… Read more »

A.B. Prosper
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Spencer is pro White and willing to put skin in the game, he deserves credit for that but other than being Pro White he’s a Nazi and a Globalist and a media tool. The Reds called his kind a useful idiot I know people like him because he’s charismatic and well spoken but he’s a liability as are Anglin and all the other goose stepping dumb fucks. Also the .Alt Right kind of cacked as a brand because its distributive, its leaderless , had no common ideology , not enough ideology to be honest As an analogy, its a bunch… Read more »

Wilburn Sprayberry
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Wilburn Sprayberry

Spencer isn’t a Nazi, stupid flirtations with spastic arm movements & Hailgate nothwithstanding. He’s not a globalist; his political thinking about foreign policy is insufficiently developed, as is the Alt-Right’s in general. You are correct – it does not have “enough” ideology, but umbrella movements, which is all the Alt-Right is/was, never do. Your dino analogy is cute. We’ll see. Nothing odd about Peterson, Shapiro, Dreher. They are anti-white – therefore enemies. Basic Schmitt. Enemies to whatever degree they choose to be until they convert or run away or cease attacking me and white nationalism. (I doubt Shapiro will convert,… Read more »

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

Anyone who likes the EU like Spencer purportedly does is a Nazi since that whole organization is basically Nat Soc with German and France running Europe and passive (via Muslim immigration instead of death camps) Jew extermination along with anti White sentiment instead of anti Teutonic sentiment. Money Cucks and bureaucrats who fear being personally responsible in small country for policy choses will do anything to make those choices and not be held responsible for them . That cannot ever be allowed. What people who want an integrate Europe also don’t get is that immigration from other European countries is… Read more »

Wilburn Sprayberry
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Wilburn Sprayberry

So Spencer is a Nazi for…supposedly supporting the current edition of the EU, & being an American version of Coudenhove-Kalergi….or something. Sorry, that’s a remarkably twisted interpretation. I think he wants something like Guillame Faye envisions in his book, “Archeofuturism” – a European polity of distinct nations, and no Muslim or other non-white immigration. Like you, I’d rather the Europeans themselves didn’t “mix it up” too much (with each other – the non-white invaders must be removed), but at this point, maybe that’s water under the bridge, and….that’s like restoring the American Republic of the Know-Nothing era…nice, but not going… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Yup, they’re crying out…
Judenfrei. You betcha. You racist Nazis.
After the muslims get tenure, I wonder which superminds will be running things.

An Interesting take.
Now stay in your pens.

Mike@Mike.Mike
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Mike@Mike.Mike

Whatever comes next, it must have new optics. Part of what kills some of these realist movements is the voluntary association with Roman salutes or swastikas or rebel flags or pillow sheets. I consider myself a race realist, but I have no interest in imagery from long dead political parties or foreign nations. All of those images represent things that ended in defeat, which in itself does not inspire confidence.

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We get it. I don’t get the point in echoing, (using almost identical language), what Zman and others have said a million times already.

Dave
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Dave

Apparently “we” don’t get it because a whole helluva lot of people on the right, particularly young folks, don’t understand that simple point.
LARPing as Nazis and Klansmen and brownshirts seems very attractive to a lot of young people, at least the ones who like to go to marches and public demonstrations and such.

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It’s not that I disagree with what Triple Mike said. It’s just kinda boring reading comments that parrot Zman with his own words and style. I’m not saying we all have to be originals, but some of us could try a little harder.

Ursula
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Ursula

How about if you, Frip, do not become the den mother of this blog? Please.

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

I don’t think the swastikas and rebel flags are ever going to go away. While I doubt that most of the people waving swastikas could even explain what National Socialism was (come to think of it, I don’t think anyone can explain what National Socialism was), the young people have figured out it sure gets a rise out the old farts.

For better or worse, we’re going to be stuck with it for a long, long time. I think the best you can hope for is that they become prevelent enough that people eventually become desensitized to it.

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WWII was so long ago that the younger generation no longer cares or is even aware anymore. They’re over it.

Mike@Mike.Mike
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Mike@Mike.Mike

To clarify, I’m not saying those things need to be eliminated and or scrubbed from history. I’m saying that any serious white movement needs to stay away from them.

thekrustykurmudgeon
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looking at the state of things now – I could compare it to the burnout of the original rock and roll era in 1958 and 1959. Jerry Lee Lewis got busted for marrying his cousin, Chuck Berry got busted for pedophilia, Elvis joined the military, Buddy Holly died, Little Richard “finds god” and Bill Haley gets attacked onstage. Rock and roll was basically in a coma for five years until the Beatles come along. What we are seeing now is the same kind of thing. That first initial burst of energy in 2015 and 2016 is gone and we are… Read more »

Din C. Nuffin
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Din C. Nuffin

Question: How did + or – 3% of the population succeed in changing their perception from perverted to privileged? State legislators are rapidly passing legislation that will make Bibles hate speech, which it already is in Canada. Having sex with other men’s assholes, or with dead bodies, animals, children, or bushes that may conceal a snake, is perverted. But kids coming out of school think gay is fine. Hollywood, and television pretends it’s normal. Being a “homophobic” is just as bad as being a “racist”. Churches, which should have held the line, or discarded their prime manual, capitulated to the… Read more »

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

Every society has blasphemy laws . Its either your laws (don’t mock the Bible or else) or theirs (though must love pedos and anal sex ) Christians got complacent and weak and got run over. The way back isn’t very pleasant though, a willingness to kill and die in large numbers. The Deus Volt crowd might have it in them and if they do, a whole lot of pour encourager les autres applied to certain types on a semi regular basis will not only shut them up very fast but swell the ranks. People back a strong leader, always have,… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

By “traction” you mean mainstream media acceptance. That is circular, as it was the MSM or those behind the MSM that pushed the perversion in the 1st place; of course they accept it, they created it.

Redefine what you mean by “traction.” 10% of the population agrees with the alt-right. Assuming negligible support from non-whites, this means that about 1 in 6 whites are alt-right. Studies show that young whites are far more traditional and right-wing than any previous generation. We got “traction” where it mattered.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

“We got “traction” where it mattered.”

It may be too late.

active pooter
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you wrote: “the foundation of paleoconservatism and the alt-right are the same – race realism” and ” The great battle is between the old thinking of egalitarianism and the new thinking of biological realism. ” === while it is true that race realism is a part of the alt-right/dissident-right etc, it is just one component of this struggle, this battle…this battle, this struggle is really Capital vs White Labor…Capital vs White Working Class Culture…that is what you guys are for the most part missing–that we are fighting the establishment and the propaganda of the establishment…race realism, egalitarianism, are mere facets… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

Most in the dissident right are well aware of the incestuous alliance that is our enemy. You are wrong to say BigCorp is in charge; they often do things that are contrary to making a profit in order to advance an ideological goal. BigCorp/ MSM/ Academia et al are all controlled by a common enemy, they are all the limbs of the octopus not the body. The body of the octopus is a racial enemy that is weakening our culture to allow for its takeover, with invading non-whites being the knockout blow. This is why the alt-right focuses on race;… Read more »

active pooter
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zorost wrote:
“You are wrong to say BigCorp is in charge; they often do things that are contrary to making a profit in order to advance an ideological goal.”
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my response: please tell me how the anti-white multiculturalist propaganda and pro-immigration propaganda pushed by the media (and their globalist corporate bosses) is contrary to making a profit.

Zorost
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Zorost

Race-mixing porn loses money yet lots of it is made.

Twitter/facebook purge accounts for ‘wrongthink’ that would otherwise make them money if left on.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/12/08/yout-d08.html
Besides costing money, internet service providers censoring content increases their legal risk.

Hollywood makes propaganda movies and TV shows rather than making what people want, leading to huge numbers of people tuning out.

The NFL has turned into a Leftist propaganda mill as well, angering millions of fans with their BLM nonsense.

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

The alt-right as a movement may have collapsed (although I think the obituary is premature), but the zeitgeist that created it is still here and still growing. If the alt-right disintegrates, another movement with the same concerns and goals will quickly replace it. In the end, Spencer has accomplished a lot, even if the alt-right passes. He’s had a large hand in the growth and acceptance of nationalist ideas. He certainly wasn’t the first, but unlike Jared Taylor or John Derbyshire, he managed to seize the moment and become a catalyst for the movement. Whatever comes afterwords will largely be… Read more »

Wilburn Sprayberry
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Wilburn Sprayberry

I sent a small $ to Spencer’s defense fund with the stipulation he shave his head, and wear only J.C. Penney for a year. 🙂

Quicksilver75
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Quicksilver75

The legal minefield they must clear to extricate themselves from the C’Ville debacle will mean All Hands on Deck. Appealing the unjust verdicts so far & defending against the conspiracy lawfare nonsense will occupy them for many months. Painful lessons on the peril of under estimating the Kritarchy.

joey junger
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joey junger

I give Richard Spencer credit, first and foremost, for knowing that he was in physical danger pretty much every second from the moment he became the face of the Alt Right. It cannot be easy to live with the fact that your enemy or someone disaffected from your own ranks will make you a head shorter when you’re not watching. Not just science, but math really is the Achilles Heel of the egalitarian delusion. The disproportion in racial crime rates, total fertility rates and immigration numbers…this is the kind of stuff you cannot argue against without trying to tell people… Read more »

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

To learn a bit about Identity Evropa I looked at their application for membership. One of their selection criteria is “non-Semitic” origin.

Just put a swastika on the home page and be done with it.

Elton
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Elton

Yeah, this is really discriminatory and disgusting isn’t it? I mean, how can an organisation called Identity EVROPA have the nerve not to accept Jews, right? And I’m sure that you feel just as self-righteously indignant and appalled by exclusively Jewish organisations which do not accept White Gentiles In their ranks, right? Right??

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

I’d try working to get the world’s smartest palefaces on my side rather than reject them at the getgo, but that’s just me.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Let the hijackers hold an interfaith discussion, like they do with their muslim cousins.

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

The Current Consensus Jews are actually mostly (around 70% or more) Southern European in genetics the general consensus being Near Eastern men and European women mixed some time ago. They are not, a flawed few studies aside any smarter than European people on average though maybe 1/3 of Standard deviation verbal (5 points) might be the case In the US they’d pass the hoary old brown paper bag test without an issue and the US In particular is filled with as the Jewish millionaire matchmaker Patti Sanger puts it Jewpacabra , Jews that are full or partial and pretty indistinguishable… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Since the j-word popped up, let me say I must salute such worthy enemies.

They predate on predators.
Let that sink in.

Breed and cultivate them, in fact- islamic rottweilers, then Calvinist bull-terriers, followed by Anglo-Dutch pitbulls, next African St. Bernards, Aztec terriers, Chinese chows…

Not content to merely plunge into civil warzones, they create them to exploit!
Harnessing entire populations! Controlling governments!

Such ruthless skill. Generations of focus.
Gods above, such brass.

Lugh
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Lugh

Yeah cuz it’s not enough that the Jews have thousands of their own organziations, local, state, national, and international, all inter-locking – the most organized people on Earth. They still have to have the right to join anything we have. It’s essential that Whites have nothing for themselves, Zero. WELL DONE.

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As I recall, the genetic bottleneck that resulted in Ashkenazi Jews (which is the high IQ population that anti-Semites worry themselves about) occurred in Europe approximately 600-800 years ago, so your point about the name “Identity EVROPA” is a nullity.

And no one is concerned that Identity EVROPA is being discriminatory. The point about the equivalent to a Swastika on the home page is that it’s stupid. Hitler was a loser, and a repulsive one at that. Marching around with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us!” marks you a a lunatic.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

The movement was doomed the moment it got sufficient acceptance among whites as to constitute a long term threat to the ruling elite. You have to understand they’ve done this before. With the Paleocons and Reform party efforts.The stiffing of populist politicians whom they either killed or threatened into silence. If Spencer didn’t exist, they would have manufactured him. His sort was always useful for the elite – they had a clown they could trot out to scare white people onto staying on the reservation. That’s what it’s all about, keeping us from straying. The elites are ruthless in this… Read more »

Brigadon
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Brigadon

Why do you keep insisting that Richard Spencer has anything to do with the alt-right? Why do you insist that the label decline has ANYTHING whatsoever to do with the movement itself? The fact is, all of the points of the alt-right are coming more and more into public favor as the left commits suicide. The alt-right becoming MAINSTREAM, does not spell it’s ‘death’. It never had a leader. And unlike you faggoty cuck alt-white atheists, Rebranding itself every 5 minutes is NOT necessary. I am alt-right. I am not rebranding myself to escape some fake leftist bad publicity. And… Read more »

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Zman is declaring the death of the Alt Right to cripple it and distance himself from it so he and Derb can supercede it as the leaders of the Dissident Right. I’m ok with this.

bob sykes
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bob sykes

There are a number of people who claim to be alt-right who have long repudiated Richard Spencer for his extreme racist and anti-semitic views. Vox Day is a good example. Of course, the problem is when a term is used to represent very different views it loses all meaning, and it should be abandoned.

It is surprising that GoDaddy confiscated his domain when Stormfront is still online. Does GoDaddy host Stormfront, or does some other group?

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This blog is not the only place where the “Alt Right” is being declared “dead”. Most of the others are parts of the lefty blab-o-sphere, though. Perhaps the title of this post could have been, “The Person Usually Identified with the Alt Right, Richard Spencer, Has Been Deplatformed” or something like that. If one was to define the alt-right as anyone that has been red pilled, then instead of “dead’, it is “growing exponentially”. I am in NY and can still drive by a roadside “Hillary for Prison” sign every day), and come across people, from senior citizens to seniors… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

Most liberals are race realists as well, but they’re herd animals who are too afraid of the social costs of “coming out” as such. The Left reacts with such animosity towards mild race realism like Charles Murray because they know, in their hearts, that what he says is true,their own observations have shown them as much, and that truth is painful to them. None of them wants to be the first to step out of the shadows. The lies the Left tells themselves are very comforting. No one wants their security blanket ripped away from them. No one wants to… Read more »

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As for race realism, my Gen-X son who was a Bernie supporter and describes himself as “very liberal”, shows signs of understanding. He lived in Memphis for a year and speaks of the diminishing area where it was safe to visit or live. My wife and I live adjacent to Athens, Georgia and he asks about the safety of some parts of town. Race is never overtly mentioned but is certainly understood to be what we’re talking about.

Dave
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Dave

Not to beat a dead horse, but Vox’s fixation with Peterson continues, and his headline today is that the “cult” of peterson is dying because…wait for it… Vox reviewed Peterson’s book and didn’t like it.
Vox has actually convinced himself that he is going to single handedly bring Peterson’s career to an end.
With guys like Spencer and Vox on our side, how can we go wrong ?

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Well, here the Alt Right is “dead”. I like Vox Day’s blog on most days but there, it seems Jordan Peterson is “dead”. There are a few things I get about the use of polemics. First, I fully understand why people in Academia and Hollyweird have to rush out there to declare their undying loyalty to the leftist causes, mouth/post/Tweet the leftist tropes: Job security. If only viewed from that angle, their behavior is understandable. Vile, but not challenging to dissect and anticipate. I know a young person that took a Women’s History course for his gf, and simply vomited… Read more »

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You have a lot going on in that post Jack.

MBlanc46
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MBlanc46

Vox’s over-the-top ranting can be entertaining, if not very persuasive. But his attacks on Peterson are downright nasty, with neither intellectual nor entertainment value. If he believes that it burnish his brand, I believe that he is mistaken.

John Smith
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I think that Peterson has committed the unpardonable sin – the best and brightest kids respect Peterson and are listening to him and dismissing Vox or laughing at him. I’m trying to understand that and I think that maybe his fan base is growing up? In an improved economy those cellar dwellers are getting jobs, starting families and leaving their comic books and childish demagogues behind.
Or maybe he thinks that ranting like a lunatic makes him edgy and trendy. Who knows. The quality of his output is sliding, that’s for sure.

shane
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shane

https://voxday.blogspot.ie/2018/05/the-reluctant-messiah.html
I read Vox regularly, and to be honest I would agree that he is a little bit fond of the sound of his own voice. To his credit though he can be very lucid about things and trends that don’t impact him directly. His assessment of Jordan Peterson’s writings and philosophy is pretty coherent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_mB1C3DEps

Zorost
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Zorost

The alt-right isn’t dead, it won. The problem is one of viewpoint, because most people think the alt-right was a political movement that sought electoral power. It is not. We are a cultural movement whose goal was to change people’s hearts and minds. We did this in part by being extreme, which gets attention and pushes the overton window. We now have a lot of support, and even more support for our ideas, as they are more popular than we ourselves are. This didn’t happen solely due to our “leaders” or e-celebs like Spencer, Enoch, et al. They helped to… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I mostly don’t watch videos, but that 7-second clip brought me to my feet with a lump of joy and pride in my throat.
…and those comments! Ye gods, do I love us.

Joseph
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Joseph

Spencer said quite explicitly on an interview that Go Daddy did not seize his domain, only ended his hosting agreement. Richard Spencer isn’t afraid to use his real name, lead events and give interviews. Sure he’s made mistakes, but it’s churlish for an anonymous boomer-cusp commentator to continually attempt to school him It’s really disappointing, it’s not just punching right, which may be justified on occasion, it’s piling on a comrade who is wounded. The back-handed compliments (“he’s young”) are transparent and appalling in their condensation.. It must suck to be an annomous blogger, on the cusp of the boomer… Read more »

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The post really wasn’t the sinister hit-piece you make it out to be. A provocative headline sure. So Z had to expect blowback. But the post was respectful enough. Keep in mind that many people maintain that Spencer ruined everything for us. If you’re overly devoted to Spencer (or any prominent voice) you’re going to take these opinion pieces too personally. It actually read like a pretty interesting editorial. I’d advise hot heads like you to maintain an emotional distance at this stage. As it was said, “Spencer is now free to begin creating something new. That’s the thing people… Read more »

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

Spencer was and is the Fake Right, along with the FBI infested “Nazis”…The nationalist Alt-right, which doesn’t talk to the media or engage in silly demonstrations, is alive, well, and growing.

Mark Stoval
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Mark Stoval

Indeed. The “Alt-right” is just the Paleo-conservatives renamed for a younger crowd. The paleocons might be said to be “dead”, but we never went away.

The right-wing (whatever the name used) will win in the end or the whites will all die. Time will tell which happens.

Haxo Angmark
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Trumpenthal Jew’d on every populist promise he made AND threw a wet blanket over the entire right. Just as I predicted.

we’d have been much better off with Mrs. Clinton, who would have energized the hardRight, smothered the Left and brought the Storm.

nice going, idiots.

rented mule
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rented mule

Death ? Not by a longshot, the movement is growing every minute, Hundreds awaken daily. Truth will not be denied. the reason the attacks are intensifying is because the left knows they are loosing their grip and grow more desperate and hysterical. The changes that have begun are permanent and inevitable

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

It won’t be ‘led’ or marketed, either, but organic. It will seem like a sudden phase change.

A.B Prosper
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A.B Prosper

Yep Many Conservative people especially older ones are immersed in the old industrial top down pre Internet way of thinking to a high degree. Perfectly understandable though ironic when its more Democrats than Republicans but things have changed a lot Its hard to understand a movement that really is leaderless resistance built around a common core of Make the West, The West A network of tribes , not that dissimilar to a non violent less race focused version of the old White Nationalism 1.0 but its not that either, its a way to change the culture to change itself It… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

The phrase you are looking for is “preference cascade.”

https://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2011/04/american-preference-cascade.html

Sam J.
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Sam J.

I really like that you’ve encouraged Richard Spencer. I’ve been dumbfounded why everyone was bashing him. So everything didn’t work out perfectly…it never does. I personally support morally anyone who is pro-White. I don’t care who they are. Even if I don’t agree with all their positions we can argue about them “after” we defeat the anti-Whites.

Chet
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Chet

I am a 70 year old white conservative man. I was a far-right wing conservative way before most of you were born. I was reading about this commie take-over back in the 1970’s, when it was just a forecast of the future. I thought I would die before it would happen, but now it is happening. Pretty much like it was foretold some 50 years ago. I kinda felt a closeness to the “Alt-Right”, never knew there was a leader. I thought it was just a loose group of patriots who shared similar beliefs. But to defend myself of being… Read more »

Thisisme
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Thisisme

The Western Party. We’re the Originals. We’re Americans, and so are you! Join now! Or be left.

Jim
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Jim

I don’t spend much time being a keyboard warrior, I just find it a waste of time. However, the Richard Spencer/Alt Right pile on got my attention. I have listened to many of Richards presentations and have always been impressed. The group of young men he has around him are smart and they are very capable of getting the message out. I have nothing against the Zman/Jared Taylor or any of the more genteel pro white activists, and I never spend a moment of my time publicly putting them down. If I had any useful input I would keep it… Read more »

(((Cohencidence)))
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(((Cohencidence)))

If the Alt-Right is indeed dead, it’s only insofar as it served its purpose and paved the way for the next phenomenon to come.

It effectively kneecapped the two traditional outlets for White discontent: mainstream conservatism on the one and, libertarianism on the other.

Since White discontent is only going to grow, and those two outlets have been shown for the dead ends that they are, it raises the question of what new outlet will that White discontent forge for itself?