The Five Olds

My guess is John Derbyshire and Ethnark from FTN are the only two people to catch the meaning of the show title this week. It came to me while reading some of the comments to my post earlier in the week on the wealth tax. It reminded me that dissident politics is a much more radical venture than previous opposition movements in that it requires an entirely new moral framework. It’s not just about getting some things in the law changed or better behavior from the people in power. It is a cultural revolution.

At least it aspires to be one. Failure is always an option, particularly when it comes to social movements. The people in charge could start sweeping up bad thinkers and sending us off to camps. For now though, it is about discrediting a lot of old ideas about how we relate to one another, society and our government. That’s not an easy thing as all of us have grown up marinated in the morality of the Left, along with the moral scolding of the so-called Right. Civic nationalism and Progressive morality are all we know.

What I decided to do is focus this week on various old ideas, customs, habits and so forth that no longer fit the present age, It’s not a one hour show detailing a new moral philosophy, but a show picking apart the old habits of mind. I’m most certainly going to be writing about some of these topics in the future, as I think topics like tax policy offer a great way to question (and disrupt!) the old modes of thought. Sadly, I was not able to work in the phrase “invisibilize the unmentionables” this week. Maybe next week.

This week I have the usual variety of items in the now standard format. Spreaker has the full show. I am up on Google Play now, so the Android commies can take me along when out disrespecting the country. I am on iTunes, which means the Apple Nazis can listen to me on their Hitler phones. The anarchists can catch me on iHeart Radio. YouTube also has the full podcast. Of course, there is a download link below. I have been de-platformed by Spotify, because they feared I was poisoning the minds of their Millennial customers.

This Week’s Show

Contents

  • 00:00: Opening
  • 02:00: Our Awakening
  • 07:00: Old Conditioning
  • 17:00: Old Ideas
  • 27:00: Old Morality
  • 37:00: Old Politics
  • 47:00: Old Philosophy
  • 57:00: Closing

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Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

The problem is that helping our people cannot happen through government solutions. Cheap section 8 housing is a great thing for white people. We need that so young white families can make babies. But that’s not what is going to happen. When you import an underclass, you get a lot of pathetic people and they get an equal (much larger) share of the social safety net. The problem we face is that we must maximize the invaders exposure to the moral hazards of modernity -debt, over education, porn, drugs and shitty food – while minimizing our own peoples exposure. The… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

A little bit of “Hello, Cleveland!” in the beginning, but hey, commenters like the soft soap as much as everyone.

Maus
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Maus

More like the shot of novacaine before the dentist starts to drill. You commenters are great…but dammit we must tax wealth to destroy the anti-white elite. Concern that government might use that revenue to turn the brown to 11 with a side of tranny sauce, well issue deferred. And you must have empathy for preyed-upon youths who got hooked on heroin and school loan debt and using sex to climb the greasy pole. Ask rather if I am to be a hated minority that no longer has the numerical advantage, why should I care if stupid, low-quality whites get consigned… Read more »

Jerry Corn
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Jerry Corn

Below is an example of how white supremacy is THE great evil of our time that MUST be eradicated. It is the original “old”, the One that permeates and poisons all the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wti3_cXeF4k

Roundeye
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Roundeye

Boxer rebellion in China, gaijin in Japan. Human nature, Mr. Duck. Whataboutism is fine.

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

I have a novel idea for you– Get the Fuck Out. It is so awful here with all the rayciss wypipo. Why all ya’ll always trying to get in and follow us everywhere we go.

We don’t hate you, we just want to be as far away from you as possible but you are like ticks or any other parasite. Your very existence depends on us so we will have to remove you forcefully, there is truly no other solution at this point.

Member

What did white people have to do with Attila the Hun?

Toddy Cat
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Toddy Cat

Yeah, white people are the scourge of humanity, which is why Colored People follow us everywhere, fight to get into our neighborhoods, sue to sit next to us in schools, risk death to get into our countries, live in terror that, somehow, white people might manage to get away, to escape. That’s how terrible we are.

And if your answer is that, “white people’s stuff is just better”, you have to ask yourself why. Oooh, oooh, I’ll bet I know…

L. Beau Macaroni
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L. Beau Macaroni

What is the name of that phenomenon in which satire of an idea is confused with genuine advocacy for that idea?

L. Beau Macaroni
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L. Beau Macaroni

Poe’s Law: an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the parodied views.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

This is not Tiny Duck. It’s the Troll under the bridge. And here come the 3 Billy Goats Gruff across the bridge…tip..tap..tip..tap..tip..tap!

Shingas the Terrible
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Shingas the Terrible

There’s the worm in the apple right there in the “Back to the Future” analogy.

Hill Valley 1955, to leftists, is a terrible place where poor Goldie can’t be mayor. Hill Valley is safe and clean.

Hill Valley 1985 is a filthy shithole with porno theaters and bums. But we’ve exised the awful sin of being mean to Goldie Wilson’s mayoral aspirations.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Dr. Mabuse
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Dr. Mabuse

There used to be “benevolent societies” for different ethnic groups: Polish, Irish, Jewish, Scottish, Chinese, you name it. They took responsibility for helping their own when they first immigrated, or if there were financial difficulties due to tragedy. Something like that will have to happen again for white people, but I think there’s more chance it can happen in small communities, with people looking out for each other over a small territory. The problem is, as soon as non-whites see there’s something being given out, they pop up in the line, saying “Me too!” What has to be done is… Read more »

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

Had an old friend who was half Korean. And a lawyer with a white shoe firm. His most profitable investment? Putting money in the Korean version of the “self-help” societies that loaned start up money to Korean business owners, mostly newer arrivals. Not usurious but a several points over prime. Zero credit risk. These people were vetted within the community and the community helped make sure they succeeded.

Pathodin
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Pathodin

Zman, great podcast.
What was the closing song?
Was that a Byron Vandal tune?

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Great podcast. Mirrors my journey, only with a lot more thought. Anyway, for me, the big switch was when I heard the phrase “Is it good for the Jews?”. I kid you not, I was so naive that I needed someone to explain what it meant. He said, many Jews will ask that question about anything happening whether a new law, a business opening in town, a new development nearby, new neighbors, you name it. The question isn’t whether this event is a good or bad thing in and of itself, but is it good for the Jewish people. That’s… Read more »

Member

“Higher taxes are neither good nor bad. It only matters whether a particular tax increase (decrease) helps my people.” Which is why I get a little nervous about “taxing the rich”. It doesn’t matter where the money comes from, it goes toward the support of an enormous, growing government which is pursuing an agenda that is anathema to whites. I left the civ-nat game behind in the seventies and refused to see myself as a dingbat white cog in a machine veering out of control. I was right, though everyone at the time thought of me as a right wing… Read more »

Issac
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Issac

Going forward you’ll have little choice but to hike taxes on the upper middle class due to demographic pressure alone. Whether that means making better use of loopholes or changing career path is up to you, but as Z has said, your people are going to be a minority and the politics of your country will become those of Latin America, so dealing in those terms isn’t optional.

Member

“Your people”? You don’t sound terribly sympathetic to “my people”. Sorry, but I’m also not sympathetic to “team blue vs. team red”.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

#Good4Mine

Make accusations of “Europhobia!” a reflex, whenever they try to dump on you.

*This* is what they call gratitude?
We. Owe. Them. Nothing.

Drake
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Drake

I’m Guilty – I will resist the idea of the Federal Government taxing assets (instead of income) hard for 2 reasons. 1. Communism is not the alternative we are looking for. You want to keep bringing people to our side, this sure isn’t how to do it. 2. I have zero confidence that the truly rich will ever pay significant taxes on their assets. They have the power to avoid those taxes in a variety of ways – the Kennedy’s keep their money in Fiji totally out of the reach of the IRS. They’ll also manipulate the writing of the… Read more »

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

That’s where I have trouble with the eat the rich ethos. I have no reason to defend most of our current batch of billionaires, but my issue with them is political, not economic. Attack them for being treacherous scum, not for being rich. All that accomplishes is setting a president that will be back to haunt us. After you bring down the billionaires, guess who’s next on the menu?

Guest
Guest
Guest

The fact that the taxes will ultimately fall on the middle class is a feature, not a bug. The invade the world, invite the world mentality of globalists is not going to change, and voters aren’t going to throw it out until the costs associated with it fall directly onto their backs. I say bring it. Nothing would make me happier than to see President Kamala Harris sign a tax package that implements AOC’s 70% tax rate on incomes over $150k, Warren’s wealth tax on assets in excess of $2MM, and Harris’ own monthly Earned Income Tax Credit payment of… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

There isn’t going to be a big tax bill on anyone—for now. This is just virtue signaling and political positioning, and people like Bloomberg know it. Seriously, you need to learn about Modern Monetary Theory, as the Dems openly subscribe to it, and Trump quietly follows it, too. MMT says that the central government can issue funds, through deficit spending, at an unlimited amount, until inflation sets in. Then higher taxes, once enacted, will ratchet back the economy to stem the inflation. The Mario Draghi and Fed songs and dances are diversions. (And is why Europe needs the Euro, so… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The endgame of the debt when you’re the reserve currency and the world hegemon is simple default. What will the lenders do? Repo our nukes? Sure, wall street would be mostly destroyed, and I, for one, would hand each and every Bain Capital criminal a tiny violin. At least, that’s what it would be if we got a leader in there with any balls and no connections to the ruling elite. Instead the ruling class keep ‘buying treasuries’, giving themselves guaranteed returns and screwing the middle class in one more way. China dumped treasuries a few years back and moved… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Again, I’m willing to discuss a wealth tax, but you have to convince me. As said by Drake, these taxes always drift down to the lower classes. A property tax such as on a house is already problematic—and that’s when we have complete and historical records as to ownership and appraised value of real estate. And of course, every dollar taxed goes into the hands of a corrupt and inefficient government. Aside from a bureaucracy that will eat up a large percentage in collection and distribution, what is the guarantee that the remainder will be put to any use other… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I would argue this is one of the hardest problems with taxes on assets – who decides the asset’s value? How often is the asset revalued? There are massive court battles in some major cities because new buyers get screwed with reassessments while existing owners sit on $1M+ market value homes and pay tiny property taxes. But these problems can be overcome. I would like to see an asset + income combined tax. One possibility would be that as your income rises, your asset taxes go up too. Arguing that “well that money goes to a bad government” is not… Read more »

Rod1963
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Rod1963

I find it amusing that a bunch of tax serfs are defending people whose interests and agendas will destroy them. Talk about the Stockholm Syndrome in full flower.

You should be more worried about your sorry behind if things go per shaped than some rich sociopath who will flee to some island like NZ/

Bruno the Arrogant
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Bruno the Arrogant

You might want to remember that when the income tax was implemented, it was sold to the American people by promising it would only apply to the 2% or 3% of the top earners in the country. How’d that work out?

People are wary of soak the rich ideas for very valid historical reasons. Whether or not wealth trickles down may be a matter of dispute, but whether taxes do has been well established for decades.

Joe H
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Joe H

My daughter heard Jeff Flake talk at BYU the other day. She said he defined Conservativism purely as support for economic issues such as free trade, never mentioning the creation or maintenance of good or even livable communities, He was given a standing ovation at the end, which she declined to participate in. She is currently reading Tucker Carlson’s book.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

Done with Mormons. Period.

Joe H
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Joe H

A majority of us voted for Trump and more are turning to our thing, as ZMan puts it, all the time. Keep working to redpill everyone.

Carl B.
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Carl B.

When Flake, Romney, and Hatch receive a standing boo at BYU, i’ll change my opinion. Until then…..

De Ferrers
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De Ferrers

They are doomed anyway. BYU is not far from becoming completely social justice warrior converged like most religious insitiutions from Georgetown to Marquette to Baylor. At that point you can drop the whole God thing, as the religion provides nothing they can’t be found in the secular version of militant leftism. Probably doesn’t help that the sands of time haven’t been able to erase or obscure the patently ridiculous charlatanism of Joseph Smith and his illiterate understandings of history, language and demography. At least we can say we don’t know for most of early Christianity’s claims.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Mormon Inc should be hit where it hurts the most, right in the shekels.

Start by cancelling big federal contracts in Utah and kick the welfare ranchers off public land until Romney is on his knees.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Back in 1977?, LDS President Spencer oversaw the revision of the Pearl of Great Price doctrine, allowing black membership and encouraging missionary focus on MesoAmericans and Pacific Islanders. Multiculti had been let in.

At the same time, he ordered the families of the faith to lay in a one year emergency food supply.
Just in case.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

A….the emergency food supply nice to have and may come in very handy! Plus I wrote about chowing down on the abundant prairie dogs when the bottom drops out. You might be envious of my brined slow cooked Herbs de Provence prairie dog. Only 12% of all the LDS church’s 16 million members live in Utah. North America… >5.5 million. More outside North America than in. Mexico 1.5 million and Asia 1 million members, South America 4 million members, and Central America and Europe >500,000 each. >600,000 in Africa. Good luck with that. The LDS church is global. The 1-3-12-70… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

Range Front, thanks for the info. I live in a Mormon-dominated suburban city here in Southern California (you’d never know it from the outside, but they own and run everything from politics to commerce), and I have been sensing that all of what you say is true, as I watch how things are talked about and done around here. While, historically, the Mormons and the good ol’ U.S. of A. haven’t always been good friends, it seems like the LDS is turning on the culture that sheltered it and permitted it to flourish when they had no chance anywhere else.… Read more »

Vegetius
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Vegetius

How about a new Four Pests?

In the meantime, walk on two legs, Comrade Z.

Pat Wreck
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Pat Wreck

Z-Man – As much as I truly enjoy your segments on Xirl science and various and sundry Weirdos, your show today was very sobering and packed with hard truths for awakened Euro-Americans. There’s no going back to the past; that way is blocked. All the variants of Liberalism – representative democracy, libertarianism, paleo-conservatism, etc., can only work (if at all) in a racially homogenous nation of “ice people” with average to above-average intelligence and low time preference. If America can’t get to that, we are, to quote John Derbyshire, doomed. And, as you convincingly argue, there’s no getting there by… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Yep, it takes a serious change in mindset. What we once knew as the United States is dying quickly and will not come back – ever. You have to give that up. It’s hard because you loved that place, and if you squint a little, you can still see it. Heck, it literally still exists in some neighborhoods and areas. But they are illusions, like a person with terminal cancer having a good day where they look and sound fine. We will be a despised minority in a generation or so. We must first accept that and then figure out… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

We can survive and thrive with unity as we are the only ones able to maintain the technological society we’ve built. But we must avoid (as Zman) recently pointed out, “becoming hated Helots in our own country”.

Pat Wreck
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Pat Wreck

I’ve heard the argument that the triumphant vibrant will have to keep some smart honkies around to keep all the technology going (can’t lose Twitter, Instagram and WorldStar, let alone the power grid), but the example of South Africa’s crumbling cities demonstrates that the sun people aren’t really smart enough to keep that going.

Compsci
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Compsci

Pat, agreed. The SA situation illustrates what can happen when 70+ IQ’s are 80+ % of the population. We are not there yet.

Dupont Circle
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Dupont Circle

“can only work (if at all) in a racially homogenous nation of “ice people” with average to above-average intelligence”

So, whada ya gonna do? Exterminate the below average white people?

Member

That’s what the fentanyl is for.

Dutch
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Dutch

teapartydoc, I bow in the presence of terse commentary awesomeness.

Liberaldisdain
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Liberaldisdain

Where does a white guy even go to find like-minded, reasonably thinking and “normal” family orientated white people to even create a united front with? Even the churches we attend, which historically were strongholds, are focused on “diversity” and “inclusivity” hence the pews are at least half filled with single overweight mothers whose next out of wedlock pregnancy paid for by the government is celebrated as a wondrous miracle by the church. Outside of Sunday to appease the wife I want nothing to do with it. The worst thing that has happened, either planned or as an unintended result, is… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Agree that the hardest part will be forming some sort of home base. If we could just get one safe place, we could build quickly, which, of course, is why TPTB will fight so hard to stop that from happening. I realize that it seems almost impossible now, but the system will not remain as strong and organized as it is at the moment. The Left is filled with idiots. The Right is filled with cowards. The system will start to show cracks. Join business and community groups. Look for others like you. You’ll see it in their faces. The… Read more »

Mike_C
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Mike_C

>Look for others like you. You’ll see it in their faces. The time has come to move our network from the internet to the real world. But start small, This is EXCELLENT advice. We often see in various more-or-less dissident right comment sections the urge to shun, cast out or unperson various persons who are not 100% aligned with whatever the self-righteous and censorious commenter himself believes. This is foolish and tactically stupid, and eventually all you have is yourself sitting alone in your fortress of self-righteousness (possibly on the shores of Lake Superior — small joke aimed at readers… Read more »

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Lib;
Find a different church. Read their statement of faith. They’re all online now. look for the key words like ‘preach the gospel’, ‘holy scripture is the inspired Word of God’, etc. Avoid those churches featuring rainbow flags or featuring such word/phrases you mention. Try it out. Look for solid expository preaching (solid = hews close to the scripture with real work application). If you like it, join. Then reach out carefully to people likely to be receptive.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

Al, the Evangelicals are often just as bad, just from a different direction. Most “Preach the Gospel” churches are busy preaching that God wants husbands to submit to their wives. They’ve got female elders. One “preach the gospel”/”bible is the inspired word of god” church we attended had a ministry run by a woman elder who taught insanity that ‘God has placed a generational curse on you’ and ‘You’ve got demons living in you and we will pray these special prayers to get them out’. Her husband had no control over the house and was ruled by her and her… Read more »

Ellis
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Ellis

WELS Lutheran.

L. Beau Macaroni
Guest
L. Beau Macaroni

“The Five Olds?” China – the Cultural revolution – 1960s – 70s.

Not all of us are as poor students of history as are BuzzFeed writers, Zman.

joey junger
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joey junger

I’m not a black-pill guy, but it gets old hearing people like Paul Kersey say things like “Nothing is inevitable.” Yes, actually, the present is inevitable, and it’s where we’re living. My son and nephews are already minorities (and “despised remnants” as Jared Taylor warned) in this country. No one in the mainstream has proposed a way to change this that would work. Building a wall around America does not address the fertility gap or current demographics inside that hypothetical wall. Maybe that’s another “old” that needs to be addressed: Is abortion/eugenics a sin? Depends who’s being aborted. My personal… Read more »

Member

Building a wall around America does not address the fertility gap or current demographics inside that hypothetical wall.

Neither does it address legal immigration, which amounts to a million per year at present.

BadThinker
Guest
BadThinker

You want the Catholics in charge so they can diddle more kids? I’ll convert and go to mass, but only if they clean their house out first in a big way. Not to mention that the CC is a big fan of filling pews with Alien Mexicans.

Mike_C
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Mike_C

Building a wall around America does not address the fertility gap You might be surprised. It’s a complex problem and the causality is not all one directional. There are almost certainly multiple, and complex/interacting feedback loops we’re not even aware of. Basically what I’m suggesting is that the mass importation of low-IQ foreigners and the economic impact (both on wages and on welfare payouts) contribute to low white fertility rate. It’s a consequence of lower time preference and being able to plan ahead. “Why bring children into a world that looks shittier by the day?” thinks the ice person. Whereas… Read more »

Member

It seems like we need to hope for a complete civilizational collapse. Because if we just turn the levers of power over to the people that hate us, we’re in camps. The only way we have a fighting shot is if we can fight

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

As I’ve commented before I’m against the wealth tax. What’s interesting is how it’s presented as a new idea. There’s nothing new about it, as a matter of fact ancient kings would do the same thing aristocrats they didn’t like. And you can rest assured that this confiscatory tax will be applied to some “rich people” and not not to others. For instance, they could come up with a list of professions deemed “exempt” from this tax, like the Harvey Weinsteins’ in West LA. That’s what’s most appalling about Trump’s new corporate tax rate. Not everyone can create that LLC… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Guest

Reagan wasn’t a phony; he was just a product of his time who fought the battles of his time, and won. He was born in 1911 and was elected President in 1980. America was about 85% white then. It was long before the effects of the 1965 Immigration Act were in any way apparent. You can’t fault Reagan for failing to fight the battles of 2019 in 1980.

JR Wirth
Guest
JR Wirth

Strangely, I don’t think Reagan was completely a product of his time. The WW2 Generation was big on the social safety net and unions. They practically created most of it. Reagan didn’t like welfare, but there was nothing he could do about it. He never considered military spending to be a form of welfare. He never considered the deficit. He started this ball rolling. Had we not come off Vietnam in the 80’s he would have loved the middle east adventures. The mood in the 80’s was against that. It took multiple Rambo movies to brainwash the country into more… Read more »

Member

The Greatest Generation©, indeed. They were easily brainwashed.

JR Wirth
Guest
JR Wirth

Easily led, and very naive people. Very trusting. I can see why their conformity made boomers go nuts. At the same time, the boomers didn’t have to go overboard and coke up in a disco over it. My earliest childhood memory is playing with my dad’s mood ring.

Member

I was born at the beginning of the baby boom. And I can tell you that I am far more in line with the politics of my grandfathers’ generation. They made mistakes, but they were always white people FIRST.

Dutch
Guest
Dutch

The Greatest Generation suffered PTSD from World War 2 and the Great Depression. The Boomers simply ran wild while their parents tried to overcome the frission they had experienced while they were young.

It is also why the GG sought a nice suburban home with a front lawn and a BBQ out back, to get as far away as possible from the things they saw and lived early in life. The Boomers couldn’t relate to any of that, as they suffered hardly at all, ever.

Dupont Circle
Guest
Dupont Circle

He caved on gays and AIDs. Huge mistake. Fake victims are not the white man’s friends.

Member

Reagan started out as a Democrat and still believed in FDR’S 4 pillars approach to government even as president.

Member

I have family members similar to the ones you describe. I’d like to put them into re-education camps. Arbeit macht frei!

Badthinker
Guest
Badthinker

Sounds like you need to take a Kruise.

Member

I wish to file a complaint.
I was sold an hour long podcast and it was a second short.

Alzaebo
Guest
Alzaebo

The years 2020 to 2050 will determine our fate for the next thousand years.

We are beginning a 30-year solar minimum, the world is going to get colder for a generation.

God and Nature are trying to tell us something:
C’mon, Ice People, let’s go!

Apex Predator
Guest
Apex Predator

“the world is going to get colder for a generation.”

Ice People Indeed…

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Drake
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Drake

Hit the music;

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.

How soft your fields so green. Can whisper tales of gore.
Of how we calmed the tides of war. We are your overlords.

Always sweep with threshing oar,
Our only goal will be the western shore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlNhD0oS5pk

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Yes! Please let this link be the Viking Kittens!

Aod
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Aod

I couldn’t help but draw a parallel between the segment on an opposition to Section 8 housing and the National Firearms Act. As the gun culture bumps up against NFA regulation the innovative solutions of subverting said regulations in the form of things like “bump stocks” and “arm braces” are precisely the type of underhanded tactics we need to employ elsewhere.

miforest
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miforest

Great podcast. The thing that was the undoing of the 1960’s radicals good intentions was the demographics shift caused but leaving the border open during the Clinton bush years. W called the republican base “racist” for opposing Amnesty. The precedent was set and the democrat/GOP donors realized that just by continuing open borders they will eliminate any opposition to cheap labor for big meatpacking , H1-b’s for cheap programmers and unlimited “defense ” spending. they have been all in for it. The more the demographics change , the harder it is to stop the process. By now undoing it is… Read more »

Dupont Circle
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Dupont Circle

“there is no going back to the way we were.”

Stop believing in something called human rights. Nobody else does. What about privilege, obligation, honor, custom and divine order?

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Dammit, this podcast is blackpilling the hell outta me. It’s making me think ‘dammit, okay, this cant be settled peacefully. Lock’n’load, get that damn CW 2.0 going, let’s roll!’ It’s making me very angry, b/c its like our problems are like this giant organic fungus that just keeps growing in your living room, or mouth or something, and there’s no ‘evil masterplan’, there’s just freaks and traitors in charge and biology at work. And we re all donna see hell up and close….

Pat Wreck
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Pat Wreck

Matt Walsh is a dick. Here’s a possible approach to the student loan travesty: 1. End the federal student loan program; “grandfather” in students currently pursuing a degree until they graduate or drop out. 2. End the exclusion of student loans from bankruptcy. It is unfair to saddle young people with an debt that cannot be discharged while other people run up credit cards, auto loans, mortgages, etc. that can be resolved via bankruptcy if it comes to that. It’s an extra kick in the face for the kids who bought the education hype and are just trying to improve… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Pat, no complaint here, but a clarification. Last I read, the bulk of the student debt was not taken out by main stream college/university students, but by poorer folk in private for profit colleges/trade schools—think “ABC Academy of Beauty” rather than University of Wyoming.

Pat Wreck
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Pat Wreck

You have to admire how business has shifted a large portion of the cost of training their employees to educational institutions, government, and the employees themselves. A university was once a place for scholarship and research. Now they are largely government subsidized vocational schools (they have become a lot of other things too, but that’s another problem), at least when the degree is in a subject of practical value. Nice deal for business.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Pat;
Can we all say, “The Christian patriarchy did nothing wrong.”,_? Cause that’s what we’re talking about here. Keeping weak-minded young fools from making damaging mistakes is *exactly* what the bad old paternalistic laws agains usury (aka payday loans), drugs, porn, et al was all about.

Might as well own it_!

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I’d like to see a Cultural Revolution that lets me say, on national TV,
“Jesse Smolletts, you are a stupid bigot and a fucking liar, just like most black faggots”

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Speaking of Olds, here’s another one:

When did “anchor baby” become “BOTH parents are non-citizens”?

When and why did we start accepting this redefinition of ‘natural born’?

300 women a day get on the daytrip short bus in Juarez to drop a kid in an El Paso hospital. Why are these kids considered “anchor babies”?
Neither parent was a citizen.

Member

Accept what you cannot change. Change what you can if needed. Know the difference between the two. It may seem like indifference but in reality it is progressing from the parental ego state into the adult state of thinking or consciousness. Often times I see denial manifest itself into self destructive altruism. Especially with whites. Cultural or societal pressures do more to quell bad self destructive behavior than any legislation.I’m sorry to see whites self destruct but all the empathy I can muster does nothing to stop them/us from making bad decisions. Most have been so conditioned to believe the… Read more »

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Excellent podcast. I was always taught that the U.S. Civil War ended in 1865. It is apparent that the War of Northern Aggression never stopped. If anything, it is picking up steam.

BadThinker
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BadThinker

The Civil War was really the conquest of the rest of the USA by Massachusetts.

John Smith
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Wonderful podcast as usual Z. I get what you’re saying about empathy Z. But addicts and intellectual derelicts of the education racket are not innocent unsophisticated rubes. Say what you want about Reagan – Nancy made damn sure that you and your kids were bombarded with the “Drugs are bad, mmkay?” message. Degenerates do drugs and embrace their addictions knowing the consequences full well. They do it out of selfishness because everywhere there are free social programs and support services to help them quit. Matt Walsh and the education racket: I was paying my daughters costs for a solid university… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

I’m sorry to hear about your daughter. My youngest brother & parents are going through something similar. It turns out being told by Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street, and then all your teachers for 12 years that “you can be anything” isn’t good for kids that can’t “be anything.”

Gerry Lassche
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Gerry Lassche

I don’t know where this leads. We have to think of our own, yet our empathy is selective. I don’t think empathy works that way? Contorting ourselves in knots? South Africa comes to mind. A white minority that held the levers of power because they controlled the wealth of the country. The mindset it created was one of entitlement, no? Of permanent outcasting of the blacks. Now it is a disaster for whites, and probably most in the world think it is just comeuppance. IMO, its because the boers never had the moral authority, the righteous standing, to survive. And… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

If you read Dalrock, he makes a great case that the thing that destroyed us was Chivalry, particularly the Christian acceptance of it, when it really is anti-biblical. Chivalry replaces the love of God with the love of woman. It leads directly to Feminism and the various insanities heaped upon us by that. Churchladyism is killing us.

Dutch
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Dutch

The “Old Politics” segment at 37:00 is the root of the whole thing. We argue about tax law and the electoral college because they are the safe places in which to dwell. What it is all really about is White Identity. The Proggies are not wrong when they say we voted for Trump because “white”. We just won’t admit it. You need to say it clearly to yourself, and then pick and choose your spots where you speak of it with others. White Identity is the hidden subtext. The elephant in the room. Own it. Get over the idea that… Read more »

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And apparently you reject that “Old Time Religion”. The thing is that the lefty antifa socialist-diversity idol (I can’t think of a sufficiently monstrous icon as it would be Molech squared), is a religion, enflames the passion, and even if ultimately a death cult manages to be evangelical in its own way. Technically they offer materialism – a pleasant temporal life. Some (Jordan Peterson) add a veneer or Jim Jones spirituality, but when the going gets tough, the tough drink the cyanide laced koolaid. The problem is you might make a case genetic predisposition is necessary, but to make it… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I hate to kiss Z’s ass, but sometimes it’s unavoidable:

“These [Muslim] people don’t belong here, much less in Congress. Instead it’s endless obsessing over their alleged socialism.

[Somali Congress Lady] Her people are conquering White America.”

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=16330

JBee449
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JBee449

I’m not convinced about abandoning the patriotism, individualism, hard work schtick, only because I can’t wrap my head around what the shift would look like in practice. I’ve been testing it on conservative tweets. Here’s an example from someone named Arthur Schwartz (don’t know of him), tweet: “Ocasio-Cortez, Warren spout anti-rich rhetoric – It’s proof they don’t support the American dream, via @lizpeek https://fxn.ws/2S5KgPO #FoxNews” This appears to be the old way. What would the new way be? AOC and LW….what?????

Heresolong
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Thought I’d comment on Zman’s lack of perceived empathy regarding people with huge college debt. Let me throw out another possibility. I feel bad for those with huge college debt because they were sold a bill of goods. When I lose my sympathy is when they start whining that college should be free and they should have their debts wiped out by the taxpayer. This is level one economic thinking at it’s worst. Their lives might become marginally better but they refuse to think about the long term consequences of their policy proposals. I would want to see the problem… Read more »

Nick
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Nick

Best podcast you’ve ever made. I sent it to a bunch of my normie friends. I’ve been getting great feedback from them. Every single one of them liked the idea that we need to abandon our old “morality”. And rethink our positions in light of the facts on the ground. I would like to support your work. Is there a way I can?

sirlancelot
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sirlancelot

Late to the party as always. Really like the Reagan commercial. Serious blast from the past ! And you really do have a great audience . It’s why I keep coming back. Not that all include myself especially when you go all “big brain” More like the drunk at the end of the bar 🙂 As far as the humanitarian aspect of it think that’s exactly “Who We Are” ( interesting how “speech to text ” automatically capitalized that phrase ) Yet charity doesn’t go to white people. It always ends up distributed to parasites of the inner city. Have… Read more »