Failure Analysis

For a time, it looked as if the “yellow vests” revolt was going to shakeup French politics by legitimizing populist issues. The protests were mainly focused on economic issues, but those issues are the sorts of things that highlight the divide between the cosmopolitan ruling class and the general public. That is the heart of the great political divide in the current age. The ruling class and its supporters are living a fantasy life paid for in a million small ways by the unorganized and ignored masses making up the general public.

That’s really what the yellow vest protesters were about initially. As is always the case with revolts, what got them in the streets were the little things, but those little things were symbolic of the bigger problem. The yellow vest originated from the nutty law that requires all French drivers to keep a yellow safety vest in their car. Whether or not having such a thing is a good idea is not really the point. It is the symbol of elite attitudes that result in the proliferation of thousands of such laws.

Half a year on now and it looks like the yellow vest revolt has followed the same arc as all previous efforts to oppose the prevailing order. In France the protest culture is a part of the political system. It’s not just a left-wing phenomenon, like it is in America. It’s how the political factions rally support and press their case to the public. A populist movement joining the system offered some hope that a genuine alternative could emerge. Instead, it appears that the establishment has found a way to corrupt and de-legitimize it.

Now, Scott McConnell is a yesterday man, stubbornly attached to a politics of a bygone era, but what he describes should be familiar to anyone who has followed dissident politics. What made the Gilets Jaunes initially effective was their authenticity. They were just regular people expressing their complaints the only way available to them. The fact that they had to go into the streets underscored their legitimacy. These were not the sort who engaged in protest. They voted and wrote letters to the editor.

The Gilets Jaunes are like the Tea Party movement in America. What made the Tea Party work initially was the fact it was organized by normal people, not political professionals with hidden agendas. Like the Tea Party, this ordinariness, and the lack of organizational structure, made the Gilets Jaunes vulnerable. At some point, the French equivalent of Antifa showed up to start smashing things. Muslim groups joined into the attack Jews on camera. In Paris, Gilets Jaunes is now just a weekly bit of anarchy.

Something similar happened with the Tea Party in America. Instead of radical leftists, it was political barnacles like the R Street crowd. These are the political shape-shifters, who always turn up in conservative circles. Their job is to co-opt and neuter anything resembling a legitimate challenge to the people in power. In the case of the Tea Party, they jumped in, wrestled control of the name and many of the organizations away from the grass roots and turned the whole thing into cover for the GOP establishment.

A common theme to all of these failed opposition movements is the decision to engage in the established political system. Once they connect to the system, the system releases a virus that either assimilates the new group, turning it into a feature of the system, or kills off the threat. The former case is a universal in life. When the king recognizes a threat to his rule, the first move is to buy off the threat. Offering him a position in the system, in exchange for him adding his legitimacy to the king and his ruling order.

The latter is the one that is most puzzling, as it suggests legitimate opposition lacks the right antibodies to function in a modern liberal democracy. A recent example in America was the alt-right. When it was a humorous on-line enterprise, operating outside the political system, it was effective at introducing paleocon ideas into the flow of social media. Those memes making sport of ruling class piety were highly effective. The alt-right operated like a highly diffuse guerrilla movement, using mockery and satire to undermine order.

Then Richard Spencer started imagining himself as the leader of a vanguard and started to stage protests and go on speaking tours. The shift from underground guerrilla movement to above ground political activism was a disaster. Quickly, Spencer became David Duke 2.0, which gave the Left cover to send in their street mobs. Woke capital joined in and the entire dissident scene was subjected to an ongoing pogrom that persists to this day. The alt-right exploded and has followed the Tea Party into the dustbin.

Decades ago, Sam Francis observed that the Buckley brand of conservatism was bound to fail, because it sought to engage in politics on Progressive terms. By engaging in conventional politics, Buckley was legitimizing not only the rules of the game, but the roles for the participants as created by the Left. Since the Left controlled the institutions, they would always set the rules so they would win and the Buckleyites would lose. That is, of course, exactly how things unfolded. Conservatism was a failure.

Something similar happened with the Tea Party, the alt-right and now the Gilets Jaunes in France. By trying to play by the rules, they legitimize that which they claim to oppose, at least at a meta-political level. It also removes from them the one weapon all outsider movements possess. That is the willingness to break the rules. The flipping over of tables inside the temple is how these movements gain attention and attract followers. To then be seen putting the tables back and sitting behind them robs the movement of energy.

Something else seems to be at work. These movements all suffered from poor leadership and poor organization. The first Tea Party folks were honest, energetic, but wildly naive about the reality of political organization. The alt-right figures that rose up in 2015 were good at getting attention, but incapable of building organizations. Richard Spencer is media savvy, but you would not put him in charge of anything. The Gilets Jaunes appears to also lack capable leadership, which is why they have been taken over by the Left.

What this suggests is that any legitimate opposition must first insulate itself from the political system. Its guerrilla phase cannot be where they start, but where the end, in order to function as a subversive subculture in opposition to the prevailing order. The Vietcong and the Khmer Rouge did not fully come out of the shadows until the prevailing order was collapsing. It was at that point they rushed into fill the void. If there is to be a legitimate opposition in the West, it is going to operate in the shadows.

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So what’s the prescription? Amren-like underground conferences in the local communities? Is all political engagement, even at the local level, simply out of scope?

Calsdad
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Bloody hell.

Did you read the column?

Get your own mind right FIRST.

ALL successful organizations start at the bottom. Stop the quixotic quest to find a new messiah to lead from above.

It’s simply not going to happen. They will be bought out or Arkancided – every ….. single….. time.

BadThinker
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So your answer is just more Jordanetics? *None* of what I said was about finding a new leader or searching for a messiah.

Rod1963
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Amren is for nerds and utterly useless. You can organize locally, but it is has to be very low key, zero public profile and family based. Model it after the old French Resistance. Anything group or movement with a public profile will be monitored by the cops and local party officials. Remember the first rule of fight club, there is no fight club. Failure to follow that rule and you end up like the Rise Above Movement whose leaders are doing ten years in prison. Do not expect some outsider to rally Americans. It won’t be allowed. Look at what… Read more »

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Where does one even start looking for fellow travelers, especially given the danger to one’s family and livelihood via doxxing?

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Church, community, business, hobby and political groups. Watch their faces when some diversity bullshit story comes up. You’ll know. Whites are having a harder and harder time hiding their anger.

Be careful. Take it slow. But they’re out there. Trust me.

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that’s true but it’s like we’re all on the same path but at different mile markers and if you say the wrong thing to someone who hasn’t reached the gate that you’ve already passed it probably won’t go well. I don’t really have a solution here but I don’t want to burn down my life before it’s necessary

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Yep. Be very careful. One reasonably safe way to ferret out people on our side or to just get people moving toward our side is to be anti anti-white. You don’t have to attack other groups or even show pride in being white. Just point out the unfairness of rhetoric and rules that specifically attack whites.

Again, don’t be pro-white, just be anti anti-white.

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We’ll be just as demonized for being anti anti white as you would be for being overtly pro-white. The nomenklatura is very attuned to responding to the merest blip of heresy.

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IDK. Not in my experience. Anti-anti white signaling is definitely a mile marker that comes well down the road. Most white men I’ve met who are awakening are still beneath the warm blanket of their role as the anti-identity. It sucks but its familiar to them. For decades their whiteness has existed merely as an empty space in which other identities fill with negative attributes and dark grievances. It takes either time or sudden shock for the cocoon of white identity to butterfly. So until then I want no part of poking a white while still in the sleepwalk of… Read more »

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Chet

Your comment was the second one tonight to refer to our compatriots as “fellow travelers”. That term “fellow travelers” is code for communists.

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Screening out entryists will be important. There are certain shibboleths that the Deep State and it’s informants are not allowed to conceptualize. Info security is another screen to use. The same restrictions that the military uses for safeguarding classified information must be used (need to know, increasing classification levels, anyone with shitty finances is a threat). Anyone who doesn’t respect info security is an enemy (example: Richard Spencer, League of The South, Hunter Wallace…). I note that the Redpill test on the nature of women is a very reliable first test shibboleth to smoke out the entryists. The fake Russia… Read more »

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So you’re saying don’t be the vendee, be the Khmer Rouge. These are weird times. But I agree with you. I think the when the time comes to act it will be obvious. Now everyone should just prepare themselves intellectually spiritually emotionally materially because it’s going to be ugly when it comes

Calsdad
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Be the remnant

Get your own head straight FIRST.

Then you will EASILY be able to reject false idols – and false leaders.

By replies to this column it’s easy to tell some people are still very confused as to what this means.

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And if the time isn’t obvious?
Like the frog in a pan of water that gets heated slowly, the time to jump may not be obvious before it’s late. Very, very late.

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The Frog boiling in water is a myth

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But the analogy holds up if you include this little excerpt from Wikipedia

“As part of advancing science, several experiments observing the reaction of frogs to slowly heated water took place in the 19th century. In 1869, while doing experiments searching for the location of the soul, German physiologist Friedrich Goltz demonstrated that a frog that has had its brain removed will remain in slowly heated water, but an intact frog attempted to escape the water when it reached 25 °C.”

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I’m kind of lost. Exactly how can we operate an extra-political guerrilla organization in America? Do we create Flash Mobs that appear when leftist politicians speak to physically disrupt them? Or storm SPLC and ACLU offices and trash them?

If holding a march or having a rally is working within the political arena, which it it, then something way more “in your face” needs to be done. How?

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We don’t need “in your face” protests. First, the media will always – always – make us look like the bad guys. Second, the people that we want aren’t fans of protests. Marching through the streets is not in the shadows. Finding whites who agree with us and getting together with them via business, church, community and political groups is the right route. Also, if you want to be subversive, push back rhetorically (not physically) when whites are attacked. Mock the use of the word racist. Mock their whole stupid “reality” in front of other whites. Let them know that… Read more »

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I agree, forget protests. Standing on a street corner in a group all holding signs and shrieking is unappealing to most normal people. I focus on talking to normiecon friends and point out that we’re finished when Texas and Florida flip blue, which leads to the immigration issue, then to identity politics. They hate identity politics, but are surprised at my opinion that we have to play it or lose. This has been suprisingly effective. Although sometimes they’ll push back with the Charlie Kirk-tier “minorities are going to vote Repub” strategy, which is easy to mock and ridicule.

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“We don’t need to protest their world; we need to create a separate world and ignore them.” This is it. My one fear is that they won’t allow us to turn over power and simply be left alone to carry on the ordinary human tradition. In 1951, a random flyover of a Soviet aircraft discovered an “undocumented” community of ancient Christian believers in the heart of the Siberian forest. They weren’t political and they had lived there for several years; asking nothing from anyone. Well, so much for the community after the flyover; they were raided, put in order, and… Read more »

Calsdad
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You randomly put up a “It’s OK to be White” poster somewhere in your local area that you know will be seen by local lefties and therefore will drive them nuts. Then you walk away.

If you don’t understand why this is a crucial thing to do – then you really need to start studying underground guerilla movements a little more closely.

Alinsky is actually a good place to start reading.

A.B. Prosper
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Allinsky you magnificent bastard. I read your book

If you think of the Dissident Right as palecons using Alinskyite tactics you would not be far from the truth.

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They are shameless and arguments do not work but you can make them look ridiculous, so ridiculous that it will not be a laughing matter.

Rod1963
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Doesn’t work unless our side is willing to do prison time. Look how the Mexicans ethnically cleanse their neighborhoods of blacks. They ask their local gang bangers to kill a few Trayvon’s and the rest get the message and move out. Sometimes the po po nab the perp and he does time. He accepts it. Same with 1% MC members, triads, etc. Now imagine if the Yellow vests targeted Macron’s banking and upper class supporters the same way. Repeat that with media personalities, legal agencies and local political operatives as well. Basically rip the guts out of the infrastructure that… Read more »

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Citizen of a Silly Country

It’s true. The elite is incredibly vulnerable. They control the choke points, but they are few in number. A small amount of street violence would shut them down. Look at how Muslims in Europe operate. They’re dumb as a box of rocks, but they are taking over whole neighborhoods. They don’t take on the police directly. They harass individuals, burn some cars and then retreat when the police arrive in large numbers, though they throw a few rocks here and there. Main point is that they win by being winning to commit violence and have some men willing to go… Read more »

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We cannot just look at what our opponents are doing and start aping them expecting similar results. We have different strengths and weaknesses than they, and therefore same strategies don’t necessarily work for us. The Muslims are able to ethnically cleanse neighborhoods in Europe only because the establishment turns a blind eye to it. If the native Europeans behaved in the same fashion, they would be crushed by the state. I would guess it’s the same thing in America. The alt-right is an excellent example of what happens when you start adopting the strategies of your opponents in a cargo… Read more »

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Excellent post.

So the two obvious questions are 1) what are our biggest strengths? 2) what are the strategies that utilize those strengths in the most effective manner?

1: The internet
2: Telling the truth

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Citizen of a Silly Country

1) Brains; ability to work together; being under threat; the other side is fundamentally wrong about the way that world works; we’re right about the way the world works

2) Form small groups in the real world, use the internet for larger campaigns; build networks that can be used in time

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The internet is double edged. EVERYTHING we post is collectable and forms points of vulnerability. If you become a “person of interest”, how long is it before your internet, phone, banking, travel, shopping ALL are on a screen before the eyes of whoever was interested? Plus, can’t ignore the “security” cameras that are sprinkled everywhere along with facial recognition software that grows more powerful with every tweek of the coding and camera upgrade. Patriots on horseback riding to alert the countryside of the coming for our armory? I’m still waiting for a better idea. Any idea(s) that address the surveillance… Read more »

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Its been noted that the White Right h/t Larry Corriea is either “obey the law or kill everyone.” whereas everyone else has violence as a dial going from throwing rocks to mass murder

This can be a strength, it allows us to build complex social orders and we are quite good at mass murder as well but also a weakness as it allows for greater outrages and Whites can sometimes passively resist for far too long

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I think all we can do is set up little societies outside the mainstream, home school where possible, network to help each other out jobs wise, deny zog as much of our money as possible, and wait for the day when actual resistance is possible. I expect very little tangible progress in my lifetime.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

Yep, this will be a very long fight. Our gains will be slow. I don’t expect to see what I envision in my lifetime, but I do hope to see some of us on the right path before I die.

Whites are the most talented people on this planet. If even 5% of us wake up and move toward creating our own world, it’ll happen. I have no doubt.

Clumsy
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“wait for the day when actual resistance is possible”

Math is a pretty stern schoolmaster, and math is not exactly on our side.

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You know Donald Rumsfeld got widely mocked for his ‘known unknowns and unknown unknowns’ but essentially he was just paraphrasing thucydides and his imponderables. Take comfort in the fact that the future is not predictable

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“Math is a pretty stern schoolmaster, and math is not exactly on our side.”

Jussie Smollet – ” ALL charges dropped.” The “Law” is not on our side either. The country is in an un-controlled high-speed death dive. Prepare accordingly.

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It is time to have the Chicago public schools be renamed after this justly famed Civil Rights Activist Jussie Smollet: JSPS 1, JSPS 2,…!

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I’m not surprised at all by that. I was expecting at most a misdemeanor since no one was arrested on the Right Anyone supporting the narrative is immune to consequences from the State since he’s doing their work for them Its a twisted sort of categorical immunity It behooves the Right to stop thinking in terms of individualism which is a left wing value and in terms of group tradition . In fact the greatest weakness the right has is a crippling fear of group identity action and consequences We should be thinking in terms of using power, collective punishment… Read more »

Yves Vannes
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A big part of this is relocation to white dominated areas. Things are going to get worse. Make ourselves a harder target. Live more simply. Produce less consume less. The best way to deal with the JQ is to do so tangentially: when possible vote and/or support browns and blacks for administrative positions. All of the problems the Js are now facing in the DNC and the Splc are thanks to the Muds. Letting them admin complex organizations is a form of monkey wrenching. Zman’s take on reparations is also a form of monkey wrenching the narrative as is YangGang.… Read more »

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“The latter is the one that is most puzzling, as it suggests legitimate opposition lacks the right antibodies to function in a modern liberal democracy.” Or a least in a liberal democracy where political parties, not voters, have the final say. A more direct democracy, similar to Switzerland, gives voters more say. You can be a lefty but still vote to support gun rights, or you can be a righty but still vote to support some labour bill. Americans have been told for so long that their system is the greatest in the world, they actually believe it, and are… Read more »

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Direct Democracy is suicide. Its get you gun grabbing from the cities, weed everywhere and when the elite don’t like something say a ban on gay marriage, they overturn it anyway. What you want is power and the will to use it. The only thing that can fix the West is an interregnum , 20-40 years of authoritarian Right wing rule with economic nationalism, social conservatism and repatriation of foreigners If we can get that and are willing and/or able to come down like a hammer on anyone subverting or causing trouble, we can have the society we want. That… Read more »

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Its stupid to accommodate other views that deviate greatly from the core. Booby, do you really want the kind of people who put Cortez , Omar or the like having any say in politics that effect you? I’ll note that gun control was pushed by the Irish because they don’t trust themselves with guns Should someone of a different faith and different ethos have power over you ? No one wants to hear this but everything you’ve been taught about the social order is nearly the opposite of true. A mostly closed, homogeneous , moral culture , restricting women’s rights… Read more »

MBlanc46
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We sure are operating in the shadows.

John Badger
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John Badger

Everything is going according to plan, LOL.

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

Actually we are educating each other here which is not as satisfying as some other options but its still a valuable thing to do.

Once we figure out what the hell we need and want and get the need for working together to collective goals through our thick skulls we can figure out how to get it done.

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This is a marathon, not a sprint. The problem is, that most of the people on our side of the divide are likeable and quite civil As soon as the masses start coming over (they will) then we are going to want to rid ourselves of those dorks. The Dissident Right is a very cool place to be but like everything cool, it will be ruined by the mainstream.

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Our task is simple, yet monumental: Create a separate community within the overall society. You have to have your own group with its own rules, similar to the Amish, the Jews, Mormons and Muslims. Your group doesn’t accept the values and norms of other groups or even the larger society. You agree to work with other groups and the government for the sake of expediency, but you never view their rules and norms as equal to your own. Most importantly, you expel members of your own group who fail to adhere to your group’s rules and beliefs. This will be… Read more »

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“When the king recognizes a threat to his rule, the first move is to buy off the threat. Offering him a position in the system, in exchange for him adding his legitimacy to the king and his ruling order.” Of all the examples that came to my mind on this point, the most vivid was (from “It’s a Wonderful Life”) when Mr. Potter offered George Bailey a three year contract, a big salary, and travel to New York and Europe, if he would just give up the Savings and Loan. You may recall George almost took it, until he came… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

LOL.

Now you’re finally figuring it out.

The beatings will continue until the attitude improves.

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No revolutionary movement has ever succeeded without assistance from either a faction of credible elites or foreign help. If dissident antiglobalist forces are to gain power, they need the patronage of elites or foreigners.

Grumpy the Grump
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Looking back, I can’t say I even remember what the specific goals of the Tea Party were. What precisely did they want? I think at bottom most of this is racial. The Tea Party were largely motivated by the fact that the Left/Jewish/LGBTQRXZUB40/Black/Brown/Muslim/Foreigner mob had won the presidency on the strength of promising to, ahem, ” change” everything in this country. The Tea Party liked to dress up in tricorn hats and old-timey Revolutionary outfits because they were basically signaling to the Obamablob, “WE are the real Americans!” Now of course, years later, the Obamablob has greatly increased in size… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

There’s a bunch of Africans holed up in your daughter’s bedroom – and the best thing you can find in your trunk is yellow vest?

LOL.

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On the psychological front, detachment seems a useful focus. That is, detaching people from old pieties, civic nationalism, faith in the system, etc. The Zman works this beat!

I think we’re making decent headway. I agree with the American Sun that “the dissident right is largely composed of white straight men who no longer have a loyalty to the state.” We need to make more of these detachees. For the online brigade, it basically just means relentlessly jeering and throwing contempt on the rotten establishment.

Maybe then we can focus on re-attachment to more fulfilling things.

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Exactly. Things go much better when you communicate the idea that you don’t give a crap. You don’t give a crap how it looks to others, you don’t give a crap whether it is socially acceptable, and you certainly don’t give a crap whether anybody’s feelings get hurt. And then you go from there. Encourage the idea that it is ok to laugh at someone when they say something really stupid, especially when they are seeking social virtue points with it. Mockery is a huge weapon.

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It’s really quite simple. Here’s what I think – and occasionally say (in nicer words) when I see someone bashing whites: You’re not my people. Therefore, your opinion – your morality – doesn’t matter to me. I’m not crazy, so I know that I have to follow the rules so I don’t lose everything, but just know that I don’t give a shit what you think.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

White men without loyalty to the state. I like it. Now, we just need a new story we can tell ourselves to win the moral war.

Citizen of a Silly Country
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Citizen of a Silly Country

We overcame other tribes who wanted our people wiped from the Earth.

How’s that for a moral story.

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BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

http://time.com/5558888/jussie-smollett-charges-dropped/

Looks like you guys were wrong with this one,

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

This is a good thing. Remember, you need to think like a dissident. Every failure of the state is a victory. It hands you a wedge that you can use to pry normies out of the matrix and into our thing.

A black man staged a hate crime to incite racial hatred and got away without even a mark on his record. That’s a powerful kick in the face that you should be reminding your boomer friends about every day.

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I know a lot of them are too delusional to ever get it but maybe now some of the CivNats will figure it out. The system is against us. And not just “us” on the dissident side. They hate the normies waiving around their pocket Constitutions, too. They could explain away some of the other things to themselves if they wanted to believe enough. As bad as the Kavanaugh hearings were, he was confirmed (barely). The deep state hit job? Oh look, Mueller said “no collusion” so it’s all good now. But how do you rationalize Juicy getting away with… Read more »

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Hi Tiny Duck!
Howzit goin’ ?

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No problem. The Jussie thing simply gives evidence to what we have been saying all along. It peels open the eyes of the normies to the reality of our age. Jussie strengthens our case enormously, with the people who need to learn what is really going on. The Chicago mob did us a favor.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Maybe.

It will be interesting to watch what happens with Smollett’s lawyer since he’s now getting connected to the scheme they arrested Avenatti for.

After the college entrance bribery scandal and now this Avenatti thing – I’m starting to wonder if somebody isn’t starting to roll up the lower end players to see what shakes out. Maybe somebody will roll.

If we continue to see things coming out like what went down with Avenatti and the college bribery scandal – I’d say there’s a lower end house cleaning going on.

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Actually looks like most people here were correct in predicting the Smollet outcome. Except me. I thought the PTB would use it as an opportunity to show the white public that the system is still fair, and punish Smollet properly.

Yves Vannes
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Can’t wait until me make the jump to the big screen, gets an academy award and lays into YT.

Standing ovation guaranteed.

Nori
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Nori

Whitewashing a black criminal, Chicago style.

Dave smith
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BEWARE the anarchist? What gives? Either fight and wipe out the establishment then cut off the heads of anyone who offers a post conflict solution for a minimum of ten years.

Dutch
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We have a huge advantage right now. The Left is so delusional about the correctness of their cause, and the righteousness of their mission to eradicate the rest of us, they are blind to what the rest of us can see. That allows us to operate right under their noses, quietly and carefully. Do not fight the battles on their terms, fight them on ours. Prepare yourself in every way you can, and wait it out. There will likely be a time and place to proactively do something very important and meaningful. It will be at a time and place… Read more »

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Dutch, as the poet said, “No man is an island…”. Not a proponent of protests, banners, and the like. But there needs to be “thought leaders” that communicate to the unwashed masses as they begin to get red pilled.

You mention “frame of mind”, but that frame in my case has been extensively formed by folks like Z-man, sites like AmRen, and outspoken HBDers like Cochran and Jayman—don’t sell yourself short either. 😉

Do not these folk form a defecto leadership?

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Having viewed the Tea Party rise and ultimate fade into oblivion combined with the Government in my lifetime allowing unfettered immigration both legal and illegal sadly tells me that nothing will change here in the USSA. To remain optimistic about the country changing for the better is not possible for me. From the overbearing overreaching Federal monstrosity all the way down to the State and Local progressive socialist Aholes the only alternative I see is to drop out. Affect Change? How? Dissident Right thinking is and has been under the constant barrage of leftist progressive idiots since we allowed ourselves… Read more »

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Dutch

Do what you can with what you have control over. Which is how you think, who you associate with, how you choose to treat them, and how you allow them to treat you. You do not have control over a lot of things, and you need to let them go. It is not a withdrawal from society, but instead a reordering of where you live, who you associate with, and on what levels you operate. I, for one, enjoy operating “behind enemy lines”, learning how they think, seeing what they do. It is a small-scale endorphin rush to witness the… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

You’ll only get strung up if you sell (give) them the rope.

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Felix_Krull

These movements all suffered from poor leadership and poor organization.

They suffered from leadership and organisation.

As long as the resistance is unorganised and leaderless, there’s nothing for the establishment to target, subvert, bribe or threaten. Once globohomo has a person, structure or an idea to attack, it’s all over.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Without organization, movements fizzle out, see: Gamergate. The video games industry has now consolidated, and SJWs are triumphant. They failed to build new development studios and media outlets.

Alternative platforms are important, and it is something we don’t do well.

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Felix_Krull

Without organization, movements fizzle out, see: Gamergate

Then you start a new one.

Dutch
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Dutch

Felix is right. Always stay one step ahead. Or two or three steps, just keep going.

SidVic
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SidVic

What was the secret organization in SA that ushered in the national party? Brothers-something Boermag? Maybe that would be good model.

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Broderbund, a sort of Afrikaner version of the Masons, it was a network of businessmen and other elites that organized against the Anglo elite. The Boeremag was a small terrorist group in the 1990s, their main consequence was that the ANC was terrified of them and therefore dismantled the “commando system” where farmers protected each other.

SidVic
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SidVic

They threw everything at Trump and he weathered the storm, albeit damaged and compromised. Maybe he will get a second wind? The american revolutionaries pulled it off. They were up against significant odds but they were crafty hehe.

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Felix_Krull

I’ve sworn not to judge the God Emperor until his first term is up, but it increasingly looks like he has folded. The relentless hounding of his friends, family and business relations is what faces anyone sticking their head above the parapet.

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BestGuest

He said the right things as a candidate, but ultimately he jettisoned the very people that dragged him over the finish line. And won’t defend his most ardent supporters. Now he’s hired the worst-of-the-worst swampies.

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Felix_Krull

What we often tend to forget is that nobody believed He would win, not even Himself. So whatever He said, He did not expect to be pressed to deliver. One thing he conspicuously did not say, was that legal immigration must stop. A big red flag for anyone here in Euroland, where a gimmiegrant is a gimmiegrant, no matter the state of his paperwork. Promising to stop illegal immigration basically amounts to no promise at all, because illegal immigration is already illegal to begin with. And as Trump said – before he was elected – the wall would have a… Read more »

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Felix: “I’ve sworn not to judge the God Emperor until his first term is up…” Why?

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Felix_Krull

Because I’ve been wrong about him before.

Here’s what I fear: I blaspheme against him now, and next year he’ll take a flamethrower to the FBI or Lock Her Up, and then I’ll have to eat crow from the Trumptards for Doubting Him.

Issac
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Issac

The Vietcong is just an Americanism. No such entity existed. It was simply an umbrella term for South Vietnamese who were aligned more with the North than the US backed Southern State. Similarly, there isn’t any alt right or dissident movement per se, because to be formal entities worthy of such a designation they would need a hierarchy with reliably predictable information flows. Of course, the reason these things don’t exist is because all formal social entities must have either massive popular support or elite patronage. The right, dissident or not, can’t have either. Both because the right in large… Read more »

JohnTyler
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Legitimate, or otherwise, opposition can succeed if they can produce a charismatic leader; a leader who can tap into the emotions of enough folks and move them to action. This action can be violent, at the voting booth or anything in between. I think this is one reason Trump has the support he does from ordinary folks. While I don’t think he can be considered “charismatic,” he certainly knows how to hit the right buttons of many ordinary folks. The Tea Party leadership was too diffuse and did not have a leader who really stood out of the maelstrom. I… Read more »

BadThinker
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BadThinker

This is true across the board in more than just politics: Sociopaths are often the leaders because they have the ability to make the choices that affect people’s lives, for good or ill, that most individuals simply cannot make. See The Gervais Principle: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/ Specifically this bit: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2013/05/16/the-gervais-principle-vi-children-of-an-absent-god/ “With each new layer decoded, Sociopaths find transient meaning, but not enduring satisfaction. Much to their surprise, however, they find that in the unsatisfying meanings they uncover, lie the keys to power over others. In seeking to penetrate mediated experiences of reality, they unexpectedly find themselves mediating those very realities for others.… Read more »

Locustpost
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I think this is right–you can’t take this head on or go on the streets and hope to win. It’s a guerrilla action for sure and it starts with the individual. I believe you have to hide in plain sight–that is, resist everyway you can short of being jailed or doxed. Structure your life to pay very low taxes (the tax system feeds the beast). There are many ways to do this. Open doors by speaking up around friends and community about the ridiculous stuff everyone is seeing but is afraid to comment on. Don’t support institutions that preach “tolerance/diversity”… Read more »

Severian
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“What this suggests is that any legitimate opposition must first insulate itself from the political system.” Can anyone think of a way to do this that doesn’t involve bullets? Seriously. That’s why no one in Our Thing follows through on the logic of his position: Because if we’re right, it’s the end of the world. It’s 10,000:1 that the breakup of the United States ends in at least a “limited’ nuclear exchange somewhere in the world. Better the devil you know….

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

The idea would be to organize “affinity groups” on college campuses for conservative leaning (white) men. Perhaps confuse people by organizing it as a Greek life fraternity, but organize it as countercultural living versus the typical frat. Involvement in party politics would be discouraged, and members would exercise nepotis…err networking for each other in hostile corporate environments. It could also act as a credit union.

Sergeant Snorkel
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So I guess Jussie Smollett has just walked.

You know what would be a really funny response from Trump?

Issuing a presidential pardon to Sirhan Sirhan.

Christopher Chantrill
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Christopher Chantrill

Yes, but. The bigger problem is that “we” all, at some level, think that politics is a necessary evil rather than a saving truth, as the left believes. My line is that the Great Enrichment of the last 200 years has been utterly unexpected and unheralded (except by a Brit in 1685 that said that this manufacturing could make us 10 times richer). The Great Enrichment has proceeded in spite of everything. Enter the Great Reaction of the larger left that wants to return to the neo-slavery of socialism, or the neo-feudalism of the welfare state, or the neo-tribalism of… Read more »

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Just to set the record straight, the Yellow Vest protest had nothing to do with wearing yellow safety vests, but everything to do with higher fuel prices, specifically diesel. The yellow safety vests have been required by European law in most EU countries for years. In the event of a vehicle breakdown or accident, you are not allowed to remain in your vehicle. Rather, everyone must put on a vest and stand on the other side of the barrier away from the car. For city dwellers who can take public transportation, the increase in diesel tax wasn’t an issue. But… Read more »

TomA
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The Comfort First Imperative of our modern affluent society dictates that most folks will want to take the easy road to revolutionary change, which means talk-talk, vote-vote, pray for a messiah, and then get deeply disappointed while residing in the comfort of your living room. This will continue until the environment changes.

A day will come when most everyone jumps on the gravy train and the onslaught finally brings down the house of cards. Then all hell will break loose and the strongest will most likely survive.

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rok53

But the Vietcong were wiped out in the Tet offensive.

Lance_E
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Slowly but surely, the artist formerly known as alt-right is realizing that neoreaction had it right all along.

The time to mount a formal challenge to the system is when you already have a functioning alternative and enough power to capture the state. Nothing less will do.

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Shane

I think this is an idea similar to what some of the regulars are talking about
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/fire-breaks-out-again-at-proposed-leitrim-asylum-centre-1.3790373?mode=amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shannon-key-west-hotel-rooskey-14168030.amp
For the win. I remember something similar happening in Germany in 2017. The usual gobshites rocked up in the clown car to protest but it seems the locals have taken their vows of Omerta seriously. It’s inspiring, and tough going but you need to lather range repeat

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Patriots genuinely have to not only stop caring whether this country survives in its current form, but actively undermine it at every stress point that can be identified. It’ll be enough when white Americans turn from every civic duty imposed, avoid or minimize every tax levied, get in line for every government dollar offered, refuse to consume any new products, be as litigious as possible. Take everything, and give nothing. In short, take Nietschze’s advice – when something is falling, it should be pushed.

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Outstanding post. I’ve been at this game for a while now and it depresses me just how little failure analysis is actually done. For example, what is it in Right Wing politics that makes it so easy for shape-shifters to exert their influence? In my view the biggest problem is the lack of a “purity test” which stops admission of clowns like Spencer. Being anti-Mainstream Left does not necessarily make a person Right Wing and a lot of the problems of the Right stem from a simple failure of self-definition. Spencer’s Right and my Right are two different things which… Read more »

Foment_Revolution
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I think you’ve correctly framed the rise and fall of these movements, but your conclusion needs further work. You correctly observe that credibility is earned when it’s obviously being directed by no one but the man on the street, but then you suggest the answer is to have a hidden hand in place before hand to plan and direct the action. The American revolution was certianly planned to a point, and that there were very influential people involved from the start is not in dispute, but without heretofore unknown leaders who seized the moment, it may not, probably would not… Read more »

King Tut
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King Tut

Is there anything to be gained by you guys all joining the Democratic Party? I can see two possible benefits. First, you would have a party card to wave around and that might provide you with some protection (I stress, some). Secondly, you only vote for black and brown candidates as representatives. Never for any jews or white shitlibs.

Andy Texan
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Everyone has family, friends and acquaintances who share ones political beliefs but go unremarked other than occasional grousing. Rather than mere talk, a Small Group can be organized informally for future action.

JR Wirth
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JR Wirth

The yellow vests didn’t want less government or more freedom. They wanted a bigger cut of the loot. It was to remind the government that natural born Frenchmen still own the place.

Democratic politics is about buying people off. Show me where a man gets his money, and I’ll generally know the tune to which he dances.

Inflationist policies are the mortal enemy of the left. Inflation was created by God to keep these people in check over the long term.

peterdarinklein
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Our group has some simple suggestions for small scale private organization. First, seek to join forces and collaborate. But to do that requires some forethought. We recommend establishing a creed, discipline and bylaws primarily to identify your goals but also to contain your structure and procedures. It will also help in both preventing infiltration and acquiring new members. Hypothetically, members could be nominated and require approval by all other members. The creed can help to prevent infiltration and other shenanigans by containing certain precepts. For example, you might prohibit violence or deceptive tactics. That alone won’t prevent problems but does… Read more »

peterdarinklein
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Yes, my avatar is me and Amy Poehler. Inside joke.

Juri
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Juri

To succeed, every movement must have firm realistic goals. What we want. Only after that, grass root activists can use their creativity to figure out what when where and how. Brexit and Yellow Vest failing because what they really need, is mono ethnic white homeland and redistribution of wealth. But “we won the Nazis” and “capitalism” remain dogmas and 1% of hostile Elite own all wealth and bringing in new people. America also can be great only when it is white and until this taboo is not broken, there is nothing Trump or anybody else can do. Trump will build… Read more »

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Didn’t some populist group (anti immigration and anti climate change hysteria) come out of no where to win a bunch of seats in a Dutch election? Stuff like that just keeps happening. It certainly seems all across the West, outside of big cities, the ruling class has no credibility. And my gosh — listening to the comments of Rahm and Axe in Chicago, it’s obvious those two are scared that some of the gentry liberals have had enough — those two are smart enough to realize you can’t do stuff like like the DA did out in the open. Ruling… Read more »

Colorado Guy
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A very interesting post! Reading the comments, I recommend to the commentators the writings of Matt Bracken. His “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” trilogy deals with similar issues. I spent the last 4 years working in the political field with the purpose of defending the American values of freedom and liberty. The problem with working in the system is that very few people inside the system are interested in defending American values. What I’m focusing on now is creating a culture of liberty. We are in a cultural battle. To me, this means building community locally and that’s what my blog… Read more »