Long before the Covid panic, it was obvious to many on the dissident right that the main problem in the West was a core of true believers. These are fanatics who are immune to facts and reason, driven by a desire to pull the roof down on society. On every issue, they seem to come down on the side of the society wrecking option. The Covid panic has brought this into stark relief The Covidians are more deadly than even the exaggerated version of the virus.
The Covidian is a useful case study in how the believer engages with the world. Since this started back in the spring of 2020, the true believers have shifted positions, often contradicting yesterday’s deeply held position, without explanation. The cult leaders seem to have moved along an authoritarian scale, which at least provides some rationale for their actions. The rank and file believers, however, have flitted from one position to another like a murmuration of starlings.
The most recent example is their view on vaccines. In 2020 when Trump was promising to accelerate the development of a vaccine for Covid, the true believer was sure vaccine meant “deadly Hitler poison”. Their cult leaders were on their media platforms swearing to Gaia that they would never take the Trump serum. After all, there was no way a safe vaccine could be developed in such a short period. It was just another effort by Trump to destroy our democracy.
Within hours of Biden being installed, they shifted to swearing that these vaccines were a perfect defense, an impenetrable defense, against Covid. If the bulk of the people were vaccinated by spring, the pandemic would be over as we would quickly hit herd immunity or pretty close to it. Everyone could go back to normal. The skeptics with whom they agreed just minutes ago were now QAnon conspiracy nuts. All good people would be vaccinated and only the crazies would refuse.
There you see the mind of the true believer at work. Theirs is not a world of facts, reason, and a vast area of uncertainty, as it is with normal people. Instead, their world is those inside the walls and those outside the walls. The walls are an abstraction created by the good people who lead the faithful. Those who are inside the walls are the good guys, the faithful, while those outside the walls are the bad guys, the undifferentiated other that is always at war with the faithful.
This hive mentality is not easy to maintain in the face of reality, so the faithful need a constant stream of reinforcement. In a prior age, this came from physical gatherings where the believers could affirm their convictions and have those convictions confirmed by fellow members of the collective. Churches have always been social groupings as much as spiritual ones. For those committed to an ideological faith, the need for spiritual and social reinforcement is no different.
In this age, mass media provides the steady stream of affirmation. It is not an accident that the hardest thumping crazies on the Left are also intensively on-line, obsessed with things like Twitter. Social media is their tether to the collective. The more they remain connected, the more intense their need to feel connected. The swarming effect of crazies on social media platforms is not an accident. Like a fish in a school, the believer gives herself over to the collective whole.
Here is an example of how the mass media feeds the true believer. Note the exaggerated language like “hyper-contagious”. The true believer operates in extremes, so this necessitates the over-the-top description of things. In this case, describing the variants as increasing dangerous is a way to maintain the fervor. You see, you must remain vigilant. The evil one is always out there. If you let down your guard, he will get you with one of his hyper-contagious variants!
Note also how the definition of vaccine has changed. Since the advent of vaccines, the concept has been a binary one. If the vaccine worked, your immune system would be ready to handle the specific virus and prevent infection. If not, then you would get infected by the virus. Now a vaccine is something like an amulet. If you are exposed, it protects the faithful from the workings of Old Scratch. You still get infected and are contagious, but your soul is pure so you will be safe.
This line is instructive. “Even the sky-high efficacy rates of mRNA vaccines during clinical trials left a little window of imperfection — and those trials happened long before this virus evolved to replicate quicker, spread faster and infect even more unsuspecting human hosts.” You see, no matter how vigilant you are, there are others who may let their guard down and give the evil one a chance to strike the innocent. This is not about you but about the community as a whole.
This is why Joe Biden said the other day that his administration would protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated. The tether to biological reality has been cut and we are now in the world of the true believer. The words vaccinated and unvaccinated no longer have a medical definition. To the true believer, those words now mean the anointed and the benighted. The elect are those who have laminated their vaccine cards and wear eight masks in the car while driving alone.
This is why pointing out the fascism of Covid passports has not effect. The true believer needs that display item. They desperately want the affirmation that comes from holding up their iPhone to be scanned and the god in the machine confirming that they are one of the chosen. This is why they celebrate the death of those the mass media claim were ant-vaxers. Their blood extirpates the evil from the land in the same way a public sacrifice washes away the sins of the guilt in the blood of the innocent.
Counterintuitively, Covid may have been a salvation. The fever-rage of opposition to Trump was channeled into a ridiculous but so far mostly harmless identity cult built around the coronavirus. We saw the destructive power of lunatics in a full rage allowed to seek their own satisfaction. Covid probably saved the country from endless riots and urban warfare. The real blessing of Covid is that it has given our crazies a way to get their fix without blowing up the world in the process.
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The hatred of all on the wrong side keeps morphing and bringing new enemies. Now just being a Florida resident is enough. Kimmel’s joke about all the Floridians dying will leave a lot of homeless ferrets. Get it, didn’t say anti-vaxxers or Maga people, it’s just assumed.
( I would be interested in your take on John Rivers of Gab. The guy is on their 24/7 and along with a few good cultural takes he seems to think his mission is to steer those on the right away from anti covid lunacy. In other words, get the jab)
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90% chance Rivers is obese and scared. This has been my experience with right-wingers in my circle who became supremely pro-vax. He’s also extremely online, and regardless of how red-pilled you are, it takes a toll after a while.
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I’d say pretty much everybody on Gab that wasn’t a veteran of FPH should be assumed to be obese. Honestly, the sugar/obesity epidemic is far more disastrous than any of us can imagine, and the consequences are just getting started.
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To be honest, I could drop a few.
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The real blessing of Covid is that it has given our crazies a way to get their fix without blowing up the world in the process.
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That’s a touch optimistic. If it proves to be insufficient to fulfill their suicide-death cult means they’ll certainly find something else (though it won’t be for lack of trying),.
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Zman is definitely an optimist. I remember in the beginning of the covid madness he categorically said Americans wouldn’t wear masks like Asians because we are just not like that.
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Yeah, I thought the same about the English. And to be fair, from my extensive disobeying of the lockdown, many didn’t. But far more than I would have liked did.
Mark you, this was around diverse shite-hole London, where spotting an Englishman has become quite hard in many parts.
Anyway, forget all that: Masks and diversity is who we are!
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He was right. It just happens there aren’t nearly as many Americans these days.
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Last night, I saw a bunch of idiot college kids play Ultimate Frisbee while wearing face panties in 80 degree weather.
The future of America, folks.
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It’s a legit concern – that these fanatics will continue to ramp up their vitriol against the unvaxxed. Every mention of covid I see on what little news I watch always says the deaths, cases or hospitalizations are largely among the unvaxxed. As gibbering Joe said, they’ve been patient, but their patience is wearing thin. Just teeing up the idea the unvaxxed are the mortal danger and MUST be dealt with one way or another – and if one of those ways is death, so be it. Just listen to that Aussie whack job Dan Andrews .
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Indeed. These cunts are no longer tethered to reality. Trampling over any ‘rights’ we may have previously enjoyed. They and their seede should be wiped from the planet, quite frankly. That’s how you build back better: minus the cunts.
Apologies for profanity, but that word has a special place in my heart for the sorts of people we call ‘Branch Covidians’.
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It’s going to be interesting to see how this hyper-social reality ends. The media has ramped up to quasi-genocidal language at this point. With the thoughts of the Chosen to the unbelievers where we would be seeing mass murders if these extremely online dopamine addicts actually ventured out with their real beliefs into the world outside their house.
They’re just going to demand more blood, more vengeance online, but are going to demand others do it on their behalf, as deep down they aren’t willing to risk their safe and comfortable lifestyle. These online sociopaths aren’t willing to even get punched in the face, let alone more extreme confrontations.
The Spanish Republicans and the Russian Reds got a good number of smart and determined foot soldiers from the civilian ranks out to do dirty work, while the left today can only seem to get drug addled addicts to do their street action, supported by the police force they supposedly protest against. Lucky for us, the left has just as much of a problem with useless grifters who don’t want to risk the money train stopping or their lives being threatened.
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From my own observations, I’d not say that it was a ‘mostly harmless identity cult’. This cult has crushed small business, to take one example: pubs. Going to a pub used to be a great thing to do. Prop up the bar and talk to like-minded BadWhites. But that’s being wrung out: where are your papers?! And your mask?! And your track and trace?! And that’s just the a small part of the social side. I have seen many, many pubs close down in the last year and a half.
There is then the matter of people denied treatment, or made to feel worse due to comical and retarded Covid mandates. So you need some urgent cancer treatment, eh? Well, just remember your brave, strong doctor and health team are cowering behind their desks… clinic says no!
I could go on, and on and on. This cult would be harmless, except for the fact that many chief cultists hold prominent positions in government and happen to have a lot of power.
Oh, and the crushing of freedoms. That’s the biggest one, but I forgot it; so large is the catalog of Kovid Kalamities.
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Bravo! Another excellent exposition of the Covid Crazy that IS infecting our society with deadly effect. But something much more important needs to be said in this context.
The spring is winding tighter every day and the sane are approaching a breaking point. And Tater Joe will not relent in pushing things past this limit. So the inevitable must occur at some point.
Some lowly deputy is going to be asked to “enforce the new law of Covid” and get his head blown off in the process (or some other similar variant). And Joe won’t stop until he gets this outcome.
And that is why this problem is not just a matter of social inconvenience or even corrupt government. It’s going to become life-and-death in the most visceral sense. The Covidians and the sane simply cannot coexist much longer.
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The vaccines bring salvation from corona, but only if you accept the one true Science into your heart and flee the temptations of the denialists and their wayward acolytes.
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o blessed mercy, all my in laws are “saved” /s
And I want to encourage everyone to search for Norm MacDonald, 420, hitler, seriously that’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen
Requiescat in pace Norm
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Best comedian of our time. He made the most politically incorrect jokes of anyone without being canceled. I think it was because he didn’t give a shit and the powers that be knew he would never bend the knee. They also knew he was a lot smarter than they were and would have made them look like fools.
RIP Norm.
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” I think it was because he didn’t give a shit and the powers that be knew he would never bend the knee.”
There’s a lesson right there.
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I’m absolutely gutted about Norm’s passing. He was the funniest man of the last quarter century and I can’t even think who would be number 2, such is the gulf in quality.
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Easily Louis CK or Dave Chappell. The former was conveniently cancelled after he released a special wherein the first 30 minutes he made a strong case that abortion is baby murder.
It’s curious seeing all those lefty comedians paying homage to Norm. It’s probably just reverence for an old hand, and comics tend to revere comics who go the distance. But I’m surprised of the general outpouring. You’d think there’d be just Dennis Miller and Owen Benjamin and maybe a retired guy like Jay Leno. Maybe Norm was the ultimate centrist.
My favorite anecdote about Norm was actually told by Jerry Seinfeld. There’s an old Jewish joke about Gentiles which Norm – and any regular goy – would not “get”. Norm didn’t get it, and neither did I, at first. A true goy.
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Perhaps those lefty comedians secretly admired his courage and wish they had the cojones that Norm had?
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Up here in Canada, the CBC is a plague unto itself.
Talking to people here is very revealing, and an exercise in the highest form of cognitive dissonance. On the one hand, everyone thinks the governments up here are incompetent, self-serving, malicious idiots. On the other hand, the moment these governments pronounce more measures (vaccines, passports, isolation tactics, etc etc…) the people I’m around rush to adopt them. It feels as if Canadians see governments as Satan on one hand, and their benevolent deity who can pronounce no wrong on the other. (There are people resisting, but of course, they are labelled as heretics if they do not unquestionably affirm the dualistic nature and ever contradictory mandates of the Lord Our Governments.)
Get me out of here.
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It’s a funny one, alright. See it all the time. Most recently when discussing home schooling my lads with my mother. She knows the problems. Thinks school is bad. Yet, when it comes to her lad making a proactive decision on home schooling she’ll fall back on the “but what about social interaction” – the connotation of course is that my boys may run the risk of not being ‘normal’.
I have a close relationship with her and am happy for it. But this is infuriating. Seems like she still doesn’t like the stigma of ‘having weird grandsons’. But she knows the problem on the other hand. Same with those folks you mention: they want you to know that they think the government sucks balls, but actually walking the walk – even by talking strongly about deviating from the path – is another matter.
Folks still want friends. Folks still want to be liked. That’s going to have to change, folks.
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Many right-wing pundits were simultaneously saying “Get your kids out of CRT indoctrination schools” and then demand schools reopen from Covid lockdowns. They can’t even make a lay-up when their opponent hands them the ball.
In any case homeschoolers are now 11% of children now, more than private schools I believe. Critical mass has been reached largely thanks to Covid. If we can get to 20%, there’s going to be a concerted pressure campaign from parents to get some of that 12k per student allocated to public schools.
For those who think this is unfeasible, rabid homeschoolers who were less than 0.5% of the population at one time managed to overhaul homeschool laws in most states in their favor.
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“Many right-wing pundits were simultaneously saying “Get your kids out of CRT indoctrination schools” and then demand schools reopen from Covid lockdowns. They can’t even make a lay-up when their opponent hands them the ball.”
This is called: having no principles. At all.
Good to hear of the homeschooling boost, but it doesn’t stop there. Poz can still be delivered from parent to child; and in fact, from home schooling agencies to child.
My main worry is the government clamping down on it. Don’t know what the situation is in the US, but in the UK things seem quite decent regarding home schooling at the moment. Wait and see, I suppose.
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We truly owe a debt to the early homeschoolers who started this process when they were considered weirdos in the 70s and 80s. I am very curious about the large increase in black homeschooling families. Are these people who just want to let their kids go feral, good families who want their kids to get an actual education, well meaning people who cannot adequately educate their kids but want to keep them away from their peers or some combination of all three. My only concern is if the regime can find enough examples of the first group they try to use it as an excuse to monitor and control all homeschooling families. Hopefully we have reached a high enough critical mass to stop that.
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We’re gonna see the state come down on home-schoolers before the latter get it together to change laws in their own favor. 11% is a surprisingly big number, thanks for that whitepill. Indeed a critical mass and they might be able to resist the coming crackdowns. I think that applies in a lot of areas: there are enough people actively resisting that we might finally start to see effective resistance against the regime on many fronts.
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I mentioned this a while back; the Cleveland Public Schools were advertising (TV and radio) for students in July and August. That’s NEVER happened before.
“Get a chromebook! And a hot meal! Maybe some pencils!”
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Mr. Frog,
We may share the same mother… Do not back down.
My wife and I started homeschooling my middle schooler last month, once “Covid II, The Revenge of the Covidians” started playing in my administrative unit.
My mother KNOWS everything is jacked up, but she still can’t get past the need for “socialization”.
If your children are not socialized into our degenerate “civilization”, then good: that means you are doing it correctly.
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Ah, that’s great to hear.
We won’t be backing down. Much as I love her, she is incurring the ire of both me and my wife by insinuating that wanting to protect my child from the debaucheries of public school is like putting them into a ‘religious cult’.
Says I to her: “If we’d all had this religious cult thing from the beginning, then we’d be winning.”
Yeah, the “socialization” thing is what everybody says. All the time. Like frigging parrots, they are. I say: climbing club, boxing club, chess club, walking club…
Hell, just take your kids to a nice, pleasant open space where there are other kids and parents… and… guess what?! They play with on another! Well – sometimes!
Good on you, though. I’d be interested to know the things you and your wife found hardest about home schooling.
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Ain’t much socialization going on anymore, masks and stay six feet apart. Even in prior times it was more like prison courtyard socialization.
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“but what about social interaction”
We have a family with six children that homeschool their brood. AMAZINGLY they meet up with all the other children in the neighborhood and run around and play together.
So much for that canard.
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I’ve coached many home-schooled kids. Yes, that’s right, they’re on the soccer team with other kids!
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Bloody lovely. The sound of kids playing, and you know… enjoying the outside!
Running around like little hellions they are, and as they should be. Screaming and yelling and being silly, and NO MASKS!
The boys in the family build ramps in the street and jump their scooters and bikes off them like Evel Knievel. No broken bones. Yet.
That meme picture- kids sitting on the floor in isolate “social distancing circles”, behind plexiglass cages, forlorn eyes over their masks:
“And they said the homeshoolers would miss normal socialization”
There are people resisting, but of course, they are labelled as heretics if they do not unquestionably affirm the dualistic nature and ever contradictory mandates of the Lord Our Governments.
I’d be very interested if you could provide any [anecdotal] evidence of ethnic breakdown concerning the various psychological characteristics, e.g. Rural Presbyterians versus urban canterburian papish versus urban froggish roman papish, etc etc etc…
For instance, it would be fascinating if the froggish roman papists were moar v@xxine skeptical than were the canterburian papists.
It’s learned helplessness, along with blind trust in an evil institution that hates them (government & media).
Mental health among Canadians is at an all time low. Frankly just about everybody who isn’t a vaxx/lockdown skeptic or religious person seems to be having depression and mental health issues. I don’t have to be a psychologist to feel the void under my coworkers’ empty smiles. Many family members have destroyed their physical and mental well being by staying locked down for 18 months and counting.
Yet these people never seem to figure out the trick. They moan about new rules and throw away another day of their lives in prison. But ultimately the CBC is right. We’re all in this together, need to flatten the curve. I get called “selfish” for “not doing my part” by getting vaccinated. I usually just laugh and ask them if I’m the one in power making up these rules. Why don’t they ask their government to end the tyranny? No answer back, of course.
Some people are meant to live as slaves, some free, I guess. I’m still far more concerned about the extremely rapid mass importation of 3rd world aliens than I am about what the slave people put around their face.
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Chiliastic movements always end in one of two ways: either in the mass suicide of the true believers, or in the true believers’ attempt to burn down the entire world. Jim Jones, or John of Leiden.
The best analogy I can think of is trannies. There are few realities more fundamental among humans than sexual dimorphism. And even with the surgeries, the hormone shots, the mandatory make-believe enforced by a truly sadistic government, trannies still kill themselves at a horrific rate, because they are broken people who, instead of seeking help to repair themselves, continue to bash away at biological reality… which will never yield, because it can’t. They’d blame it on “online bullying” and Orange Man Bad, of course, but I’d lay long money that the rate of suicide among self-identified transsexuals has gone way, way up in the past ten years or so, largely thanks to widespread encouragement to persist in their self-destructive delusions.*
In my blacker pill moments, I think we all should study the Heaven’s Gate cult. As I understood it, the cultists believed they needed to leave their physical bodies in order to purify themselves sufficiently that the saucer people would take them up. Otherwise you get John of Leiden’s Munster Commune, which…ummm… didn’t end well for anyone.
*Needless to say this is a tragedy, and in any sane world there would be serious repercussions for people egging the mentally ill on to the point where they kill themselves, but alas, we live in Clown World. Who cares if some poor lost soul kills xzhyrself, so long as you get a sick Twitter burn out of it?
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Severian, you are right that it is a tragedy. Schools are most certainly encouraging this. All because people would just rather ‘be nice’. Don’t tell little Trans-gend-aria about the biological realities because ‘nasty’. Anyhow, those people are already lost. But they serve as an excellent reminder of the insane world many elites and government functionaries inhabit.
I rarely read the papers, so all my knowledge about frequency of events comes from my own eyes. Anyhow, I have been hearing on the grape vine of – mainly confused young girls – wanting to become boys. These things were just unheard of 15 years ago. If you were one of those, you buggered off to live in Soho with the others like you and did what you needed to in that den of sin and vice.
But now? You’d better accept it, bigot! Take your vax administered by a tranny nurse, troublemaker! What are you? A why-spremacisss or something?
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What’s most disturbing to me, especially with young kids in schools, is that most of the current new crop of trannies are otherwise relatively normal kids who could work through their issues with just a little bit of therapy or healthy living. Instead, all the “adults” around them get to feel good about themselves for being accepting, non-judgmental, etc. As a result, kids who just need to work through fairly typical youthful angst and bewilderment are turned into suicidal basket-cases by the very people who are supposed to help them avoid that fate.
It sickens me.
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Well, mostly just the white kids.
Non-white flamboyant homosexuals and gender confused freaks are increasing but still quite rare.
Saw a white kid at a 90% non-white (mostly indian) school come out as trans and all the adults were clapping and encouraging it. Maybe it’s the only way the kid felt it could get validation and acceptance among a hostile foreign environment. Sickening. We are in trouble.
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“all the adults were clapping and encouraging it. Maybe it’s the only way the kid felt it could get validation and acceptance among a hostile foreign environment.”
My gosh. That nails it. That absolutely nails it. What an eye-opening revelation.
The analogy I draw is think of the stereotype of the guy who thinks he’s Napoleon.
In the old days if he was rich enough we’d consider him “eccentric”: “Oh that’s old Uncle Joe, he thinks he’s Napoleon. Humor him, he’s harmless.”
If he wasn’t rich enough we tried to get him mental health treatment and told him “You’re not Napoleon Bonaparte, you’re Joe Smith who lives at 123 Oak Street, Anytown USA.”
Today not only do we have to believe someone is Napoleon Bonaparte if they say they are, we must address them as l’empereur and join La Grande Armee to march off with him to Moscow.
All because people would just rather ‘be nice’.
ABSOLUTELY FALSE.
The people pushing this dimorphism are satanists who know precisely what they’re doing.
And they’ve been exceedingly careful in SELECTING their employees [Free Thinkers with strong Inner Moral Compasses need not apply].
all the dudes in Heaven’s Gate had themselves castrated, before taking the kool-aid express to comet Bop.
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Thus proving the old adage, “a good idea is a good idea, regardless of the source.” Though given what Karen does to any “man” dumb enough to get with her, I’m really not seeing much of a difference….
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PS loving the name change — the “von” really classes up the joint. I’ve given some thought to returning to my much more pompous moniker, “Herr Professor Doktor Severian, PhD,” but that just takes too long to type.
You could try Obergruppenfuhrer.
Fewer letters.
What the broken and believers need is some time- only a few minutes will do- time with the truly broken.
We’re talking the truly disabled. My shame and rage at myself when seeing a youngish man in a wheelchair wheeling himself to the toilet in a college men’s room- he couldn’t even talk- I helped him drop trou and onto the seat. Then I left him there to deal with his beshatted underpants, with his one working hand.
Or the insane. Shuffling, jerking, moaning, every kind of body fluid- jism, urine feces, blood, on the walls, in the sheets, of their rooms.
Or the feral- little kids who torture cats, ones with broken arms, littler ones who’ve been molested.
Or even a birthing cow, or a broken-winged bird, or a shot dog. Or disabled parents, autistic kids, a sister riddled with cancer, an old woman dying alone in a rest home.
Problems? These pampered sh*ts, with all arms and legs working in perfect order, with hot running water who never saw a piece of cheap bread as dinner, or lived in daily, throbbing pain.
Have them deal with the Real.
Feeling powerless? Problems?
These pissy c*nts think they have f**king problems?
Forgive the ugliness, but these few poor examples were things I only touched. Others here have dealt with much more, much longer.
If the twits want the full gamut of overwhelming emotion, study ain’t it. Take these weak, sniffling nonces and shove their $%#@!! faces into the sewage of the Real!
And f**k Gaia. Get the filthy wogs to pick up the goddam trash if you want to save frickin’ Gaia.
Give thanks to God for the “little things” while we still have them.
I’m stocking up on emergency food for my Dad and I. I’m also sneaking in as many of my favorite daytrips as I can before the purported automobile parts shortage takes hold. I might book a room at the Lizzie Borden B&B while it’s still open.
Scary days.
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A few posts ago the Zoracle wrote that what was lacking in this world was a place to shuffle away the progressive crazies — namely Christianity, which in former times would have attracted the zealous and unbalanced, leaving the grown-ups to run their dutchies or fiefdoms or parliamentary democracies.
Hey, if Covid is the new Christianity, then fine with me. I survived Catholicism and I can survive this. As long as I can point and laugh at their scripture. I just need to live in a red state full of…Christians?!
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The Inquisition, the witch craze, Calvinism, the Thirty Years War, the English Civil War, and abolition and prohibition were all conceived and promulgated by those selfsame zealous, unbalanced characters, who absolutely would NOT leave the “grown-ups” to run anything.
A return to Christianity isn’t some magic formula to right the ship of Western Civilization. Not least because the crazies are running the Christian Clown Show…
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To clarify, I’m not saying living among Christians is a bad thing, but trying to point out the irony of living among practicing Christians rather than practicing Covidians would be less theocratic.
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If you believe living in a theocracy dedicated to Satan is no different than one dedicated to our Lord Jesus Christ, you are not going to enjoy the consequences of that attitude.
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I’ve found the overlap between Covidian and Christian to be pretty large, almost to be one and the same. In fact, it allows them to double up on the Karenism (for women) and the gelded cucking (for men) in a double barreled blast of virtue signaling.
I couldn’t disagree more with the last paragraph. All this Covid nonsense has had massive ramifications that will probably continue until our civilization is no more. I won’t bother trying to list them and I’m sure most people here can think of many of them. And then there’s the stuff we haven’t thought of!
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“And then there’s the stuff we haven’t thought of!”
Seven step instructions on how to wash your hands.
One way systems!
All taken on the chin by many, with nobody struggling not to laugh at the whole theater.
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Yes! I hear the ghost of Donald Rumsfeld:
The “known unknowns” and their long-term impacts: experimental vaccines, destruction of small business, massive expansion of money supply/debt
“Unknown unknowns”: untreated/undiagnosed illnesses, loss of social trust, further political polarization, inflationary psychology, normalization of “stimmies/gibs” culture, authoritarianism, God knows what else…….
Here’s what amazes me but shouldn’t: for the sake of argument, let’s concede COVID is a public health crisis. On a scale of 1-10, it’s a five, a bad enough flu season that the elderly and compromised need to take serious steps to protect their health.
However, even this may be at worse mid-level crisis, has provoked draconian social control, Mao-style conformity and even greater public distrust of not only government but also fellow citizens, acquaintances and so on across the board.
What would happen if the Yellowstone caldera blew or if there was EMP attack on the Eastern seaboard?
COVID confirms for me we are at peak everything. Too many people with not enough to do and far too few skills to survive should the situation corkscrew into chaos.
As an old Greek put it, “Fire catches up with everything in time.”
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“The true believer operates in extremes, so this necessitates the over-the-top description of things. In this case, describing the variants as increasing dangerous is a way to maintain the fervor. You see, you must remain vigilant. The evil one is always out there. If you let down your guard, he will get you with one of his hyper-contagious variants!”
I’ve been told this is me when I complain about the disappearance of whites, immigration and our statues….
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“The Covidian is a useful case study in how the believer engages with the world. Since this started back in the spring of 2020, the true believers have shifted positions, often contradicting yesterday’s deeply held position, without explanation.”
I believe Marx the political philosopher had a concise view of the True Believer engaging with the Heretic:
“I don’t know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway
Whatever it is, I’m against it!
No matter what it is or who commenced it,
I’m against it!
Your proposition may be good
But let’s have one thing understood:
Whatever it is, I’m against it!
And even when you’ve changed it or condensed it,
I’m against it!”
I’m sure it was in “Das Kapital”.
Or “Horse Feathers”.
I need to check my notes.
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Honk! Honk!
Give that man a cigar.
Groucho, very quotable, very funny.
“The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made.”
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“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
” Now a vaccine is something like an amulet.”
Wow! GReat analogy!
A big problem among the true believers are doctors who aren’t very curious. Last week during my regular appointment, my doctor asked me about the “vaccine.” I told him “no” and he assured me it was safe and effective.
When I told him many doctors think there are huge problems with it, he replied, “well no doctors of any importance think that, just some on the fringe.”
So then I told him about the Nobel Prize winner in virology Luc Montaignor, the man who discovered HIV, the mRNA inventor Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Peter McCullough, whose credentials are longer than about anyone, and a few others who are sounding the alarms about the shot.
I also asked him why hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are being attacked and he said those treatments clearly don’t work, and I replied that over 200 studies show hydroxychloroquine works very well, and over 50 show ivermectin works. I also told him about Dr. Zelenko, the man who treated Trump, and Dr. McCullough’s great success using those drugs.
He got very nervous and clearly wasn’t aware of anything I said and he couldn’t leave the room fast enough. I didn’t even get a chance to tell him how the spike protein produced from the shot causes blood clots, myocarditis, Antibody Dependent Enhancement, etc.
To be honest, I didn’t enjoy embarrassing him because he’s a nice man, but it had to done. Hopefully he looks more deeply into the issue, but I can’t have a doctor who simply takes what the AMA says without question.
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Doctors are trained to do what they’re told by the experts and “the science”. They’re basically a computer program. If A, do B. If A persists, do C. If recommended by the FDA (aka Big Pharma), prescribe D. In 5 years, E is now recommended instead of B. So, if A, do E. Etc.
They’re good at memorizing facts and doing as told, and that’s about it. If they’re receiving bad information from the “experts”, they won’t push back against it. They’re just following what the “experts” recommend (and conveniently, what won’t risk getting them sued).
Many people are not aware that our institutions and organizations have been corrupted by evil people who want us dead. Doctors are no different. We no longer live in a high trust or high IQ society where an institution can be blindly trusted just because they’re the “expert” or accredited.
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Indeed. An excellent run-down of a large portion of doctoring. One must remember also that, like many professional scientists, they had to be paid to do this. Being a doctor also carries status, so the search for truth ain’t high on the agenda.
At the end of the day, most doctors remember a few key bits and know a lot about diseases they treat regularly. But who has the time to be up on all the ‘research’ being shat out of professional science’s anus? Not your doctor, because it’s only a job. And like most people doing a job they can’t wait to get off work.
Best to get a few medical textbooks, study up on basic terminology, experiment with your own body/diet and do your own research in many cases. Of course, one cannot do brain surgery oneself, so they do still have their uses.
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The mathmetican Berlinski when talking about the absurdity of evolution said something like, “do you think a scientist is going to admit he was doing 70 in a 55 zone if he gets pulled over?”
No, they lie like the rest of us
Being in the sciences or being a doctor doesn’t make you a super human. The loss of religion has made these men priests…
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And that’s the disconnect between the ruling class and us common peasantry…they’re either pretending to or actually believe they rule over a high trust society when they’ve worked diligently since the 1960s to destroy a high trust society. Now they’re shocked when about half the population thinks the ruling class is completely full of shit.
Our ace in the hole in all of this is ruling class incompetence though.
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This is something Curtis Yarvin covered well on Tucker Carlson’s web show this week. Yep, Moldbug on Carlson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGbRNmu4NQ
Maybe you’re next Zman, nahhh, possibly Sailer though.
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You didn’t embarrass him though. All you did was fail the loyalty test and possibly the chit test as well. As with all of these things, the Covid story was not written for a rational adult. It was written for The Usual Suspects… you and the Dissidents are just props, or – from their perspective – NPC players in a story that is all about them – where they star as fearless heroes and tragic victims at the same time.
I find it quite fascinating, actually – watching the medical profession punch itself repeatedly in the face. Nurses are walking off the job in protest of forced vaccinations; the fake flue cases keep piling up, and in the process, necessary legitimate surgeries and treatments are pushed to the back burner so the show can go on. It has to be stressful as hell even on a true believer – and absolute murder on the doctors that abide by scientific and professional methods.
I’m going on a diet. Started an exercise plan. If I get the flu I will kill it with 4 fingers of Highland Park and 24 hours in bed. The medical profession has fallen like all the other institutions and can no longer be trusted or relied upon. Good times are in the offing for those dissidents that hate elderly boomers.
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wow, good for you. I try to stay away from those people
Sounds to me like you should be shopping for a new doctor.
Doctors are very similar to lawyers. There are a few very good ones, some are brilliant and have a true love for the profession. Some are crap and are coasting through. Most are just average, trying to get through the day and make a living.
Like law school, many doctors choose medical school because it suits them, the money is good and it beats working for a living.
Unlike lawyers, the medical profession, especially doctors and nurses, has an incredible PR machine that is constantly telling the rest of the world how wonderful they are. They’re ANGELS for God’s sake. Not all heroes wear capes!
Far too many of them believe it. That’s where the problems exist.
“Now a vaccine is something like an amulet. If you are exposed, it protects the faithful from the workings of Old Scratch. You still get infected and are contagious, but your soul is pure so you will be safe.”
Absolute gold this.
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They’re on the edge between evil and insane. Evil enough to harden my feelings. If they weren’t trying to force everyone else into their cult, I might at least feel sorry for them.
It looks like projection, again. They and their world are ending. Whether they go Jonestown or bring everything down with them is a matter of outsiders’ willingness to play along or, at the extreme, ability to resist.
I have a friend who’s concerned about the prospect of a technological elite ruling over a greatly reduced peasant population at the end of this. The thing is, those elites engineered the population boom for labor. They do in many ways own people like a farmer owns his dairy herd. They could cull that herd if they wanted, but there will always be the remnant of free people beyond their control, as there always has been.
Of course, that’s an outsider’s perspective.
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Freedom is a choice of who to serve. Do you serve the God of nature, or the god of this world?
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youtube “cows with guns” by dana lyons–
An example of true believers can also be found on most comment boards regarding General Milley chatting on the phone to his pen pal in China.
He is actually being praised for sidestepping the civilian chain of command and promising another global power that he will keep them in the loop regarding any future strategic operations.
These actions (if true) constitute treason. The biggest fraud of progressives is that they are the defenders of “norms.” Absolute power is fine to them as long as they are in control.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/09/14/peril-woodward-costa-trump-milley-china/
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Sorry for the “whattabout” but imagine if General Flynn had tried something like that…
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“The real blessing of Covid is that it has given our crazies a way to get their fix without blowing up the world in the process.”
Not sure what world you’re in, but this seems like just about the most dangerous cult imaginable. Things are a little more normal in your corner of the USA, but not so much in the rest of the Anglosphere where we’ve all been under some form of lockdowns pretty much non stop for 18 months.
Masks, distancing, and lockdowns are harming childrens’ social development. Youth sports have been cancelled. The adult population’s mental health has been destroyed as a result of lockdowns, causing an exacerbated suicide and drug abuse crisis. Fertility rates will plummet as depression and drug crises combine with a lack of social opportunities to meet a spouse. Families have been broken up as a result of divisive media messaging and vaxxer fanaticals.
The economy has been wrecked with thousands of small businesses going under. There is now a labour shortage and a supply chain problem. You can’t shut down a trillion dollar economy and just restart it again. Housing prices are now skyrocketing, everywhere.
More than half the population (75% in Canada) has been injected with an experimental drug with unknown long term effects. Other surgeries have been delayed. Authoritarian clampdowns on freedom of expression and freedom of protest have destroyed the illusion of a free West. Draconian vaccine passports are now being implemented. The USA is violating the constitution by telling businesses how to run.
Oh yeah, it was also used as an excuse to steal the election from Trump (mail in ballots).
Seems pretty dangerous to me. We don’t know how all this is going to play out, and these problems are all going to have major snowball effects, and who knows what’s going to happen. If I wanted to destroy a civilization this is about the best way to go about it. The only good thing about it is that every day it gets easier to bring dissidents over to our side. The DR is booming.
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Gotta agree here. The system being set up is for world wide slavery.
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Exactly so. The danger presented by riots and violence can be avoided by not living around “vibrancy” and looney places like Portland. The real and unavoidable danger is the massive dominos falling on us as a result of the cowardice, gullibility, and stupidity laid bare by belief in and/or acquiescence to the Cult. Especially the supply chain issue. Smoke em while you got em.
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Speaking of supply chains, I take a hypertension med called Ramipril. It’s a very common and very important drug. Alas, my pharmacy has been out of stock the last three days and I’m doing without. Not a huge deal for me because my hypertension isn’t severe, but for others, doing without Ramipril could prove fatal. Not sure if this is a Kovid issue or simply a symptom of AINO’s hastening descent into Third World status. Neither is altogether heartening.
“The DR is booming” you say? That’s why Gov. Gruesome of Kalifornia beat his recall opponent by a 2 to 1 margin?
Larry Elder may be a douche but Gruesome is the spawn of the devil himself. And the people love him. Gruesome is likely, once Biden leaves office, the next President of this now God-forsaken country.
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Oh no, the based black man lost the rigged election. This proves that Dems are the real racists (and hypocrites) though!
You must be new around here.
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Watch that kneejerk, son. You could hurt yourself. Nobody said anything about racists, real or otherwise. I seldom use the word and it wasn’t the point of my post.
You’re using a rigged election in Soviet California as evidence against the DR’s growth.
Heh. Well alright…
Exactly. I maintain we have the worse of all possibilities. Riots are definitely better. With current Covid reality there can be no “gray men” as TomA likes to discuss. We can not go underground and bide our time.
The mark of the beast is upon every man in the form of the vaccine “passport”. “Your papers please” is no longer a cliche. It is a mark that all fellow citizens can see and react (negatively) to. The unvaccinated have been de facto, “ghettoized”. We all are commanded to wear the yellow star.
“Covid probably saved the country from endless riots and urban warfare.”
I don’t think that is a good thing.
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Off topic but it’s interesting how social media has demystified the value of celebrity and how celebrities from past ages haven’t survived this one.
Like I’m sure Z and the other gen xers here remember Richard Marx. Apparently he’s a frothing at the mouth lefty now on Twitter. It’s interesting if Twitter made him that way or if he was like that 30 years ago too. Sort of a chicken and egg question
Places like Los Angeles, New York City, and San Francisco have become dystopian hellscapes the past year, thanks to the Covidians. It is hard to fully process just how bad they have gotten, and how bad they still are. It is like an evil energy has fully taken over these places. Civilization has basically collapsed in these places. It’s not just the COVID stuff, but also the fact that the liberals used COVID to do things like set thousands of hardened criminals free and to not enforce the law or any standard of behavior anymore. What is enforced are strict rules about COVID though, and they are enforced by government, corporations, and individuals. Note these these are, of course, also the places where the blue checkmarks and media members tend to live. These people seem to draw strength and sustenance from these rules and their enforcement, and see it as their holy mission to see them enforced and multiplied.
Step outside those small circles though, and based on my experience people are doing what Zman discussed yesterday and are basically ignoring it. My experience in blue state burbs is that I haven’t worn a mask in weeks, and nobody has asked. It’s just not a thing. The politicians here aren’t talking about it and the local papers aren’t writing about it and demanding “more be done.” From here, it just looks like Fauci and Psaki and Senile Joe ranting like Abe Simpson while everyone shrugs.
So, I don’t know. The media is priming us for this new moo variant to be “the big one” but I don’t know if the normies care anymore. Look at the new rise on “F Joe Biden” chants which started at college stadiums and got blue checkmark Twitter in a tizzy (apparently expressing disapproval of the President is not allowed anymore). It’s also worth noting that college campuses are the places that are universally awful to be at this time. The fact that these leftist bureaucrats are giving their students a first-hand lesson in civil disobedience and the hell of living under leftism seems to be lost on them.