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For generations in the West, it has been asserted that democracies do not go to war with one another. The claim is based on the extremely limited experience with democratic processes in the 20th century. The nations with democratic elements, as defined by the victors, did not go to war with one another. Britain (democratic) did not go to war with France(democratic) despite being a long time rival. Instead, Britain joined France against the anti-democratic states of the Axis powers.
This claim was a gratuitous assertion for the purpose of selling democracy as the cure for national conflict. In the same way that globalism is pitched as solution to war, democracy is pitched as the antidote to human conflict. It is at the heart of the claim the spread of liberal democracy in the post-Cold War world must inevitably remove war from the policy choices of nations. If liberal democracies do not go to war with one another, then a world of liberal democracies is free of war.
When you think about these claims from the post-Cold War period of American triumphalism, they are just repackaged claims from the past. Thomas Freidman’s argument in The Lexus and the Olive Tree is a post-modern retelling of the arguments in The Great Illusion. Fukuyama’s argument in The End of History is another iteration of the claims that have been made since Adam Smith. Human conflict can be tamed with rules and commerce.
It is an curious belief at the heart of liberal democracy when you stop and consider the mechanics of it. Trade between countries is just shorthand for the trade between individuals in one country with those in another country. Disputes between individuals in commerce are the norm. It is a game of each side trying to take advantage of the other and no one likes being beat this way. Scaled up and it means disputes between countries trading with one another are inevitable.
This is where the myopia and insularity of the managerial class, a creation of the haute bourgeoise, comes into play. This layer of middle managers and middle men are convinced they solve any dispute with the right credentials and a large enough committee budget. The managerial system is a self-licking ice cream cone, a self-referential process that prevents the participants from looking too closely at the mechanics of liberal democracy.
Democracy, of course, is a magical form of mob rule in which all of us are smarter than any of us. It just assumes that if the dumbest people are allowed to have input on the decisions, then somehow those decisions improve. In every other aspect of life, the goal is to keep the stupid people out of the decision tree, but with democracy the goal is to not only recruit them, but to elevate them. If prudence says to avoid war, then allowing the imprudent to rule means war is more likely.
The war-like nature of democracy is easy to see. Athens was the first great democracy and it was incapable of being a good neighbor. The greatness of Athens was the product of the wars with Persia. The golden age of Athens was between 480 – 404 BC and the Greco-Persian wars were from 499 BC to 449 BC. The Peloponnesian War lasted from 431 BC to 404 BC. In other words, the primary feature of democratic Athens was not cultural production by endless war.
America is arguably the first liberal democratic state. Like Athens, it was founded in war and like Athens has been at war throughout its life. A few years after the founding there was the War of 1812, then the Civil War. That ushered in an unusual few decades of peace, but then it was back to war with Spain, then most of Europe. The bodies were not even cold from the Second World War and the great liberal democracies were declaring war on Soviet Russia.
It is the post-Cold War period where you see the violence of democracy. The end of the long struggle with communism should have resulted in a great transitioning from the war economy to a peace economy. Instead, what followed was a generation of war against the Muslims. Now we have a new cold war, possibly even a hot war, with Russia over things no one bothers to explain. The reason for that is no one cares. Liberal democracy needs war. That is the reason for the war.
Once again, we see that the economic claims contained in the arguments about liberal democracy and peace do not hold up. Russia is an important part of the global supply chain for things like energy, food and raw materials. The liberal democracies are willing to starve their people to make war on the Russians. The same dynamic is shaping up with China, which is the manufacturer of many Western goods. Liberal democracy is unconstrained by economic concerns when it comes to war.
It is tempting to pin the violence of liberal democracy on the people at the top of the Global American Empire. There is some truth to it, but we have other examples of how the democratic ethos leads to violence. The French Revolution was the first flowering of the democratic ideal. It quickly descended into a bloodbath then Napoleon, a man determined in to conquer the world, in the name of the people of France. The birth of democracy in Europe was a very bloody one.
Communism is usually placed outside of democracy, but this is a gratuitous assertion by proponents of liberal democracy. Communism is probably the most democratic philosophy, as it is the most egalitarian. Once you assume universal equality, you inevitably assume universal participation in society. Of course, universal equality solves the moral questions, so there is not only no need for politics, but there is no need for the limits of politics. One hundred million people died to prove it.
The point of all this is that real world testing of the theories of democracy and liberal democracy make clear that it is a horribly violent pathology. Just as the real communism has never been tried, the real democracy has never existed, because the claims of democracy and now liberal democracy are incompatible with humanity. Rather than unleashing human potential, liberal democracy makes war on human nature and what follows is endless conflict to distract from this reality.
Perhaps the world war that is brewing between the West and the world is the final act in a play that started with the Enlightenment. In one final convulsion the monstrous ideas that were born in the “age of reason” will finally be defeated. Liberal democracy will be shown to be no better of an implementation of these ideas than communism or fascism was in the last century. One last effort to immanentize the eschaton will violently remove this lunacy from the mind of Western man.
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Unrelated to the article: Another of your commonly used phrases that could be used on merchandise is being “dumb as a goldfish.” Makes me chuckle every time and I use it often in my vernacular now.
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My secret handshake with other Z readers is going to be based on the phrase “listener enthusiasm is not accepted at the bank”.
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Is it that democracies are more violent, or is it that they’re better at violence. Hanson’s book, Carnage and Culture, implies that having a stake in the game, real or perceived, makes the people better at war. I don’t think he’s wrong. I, for example, as a White male, have no intention of fighting for what is left of the United States. The Great and Sovereign State of Tennessee might be another matter.
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it’s a good question. perhaps it has to do with every society having a certain amount of ‘violent energy’ that can be expended internally or externally. and democracies are better (or ore inclined) to direct this energy externally.
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You mean you’re not excited to put your life on the line for a system that holds sodomy, child abuse, and grifting the tax cattle as its most sacred values?
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It’s worth noting that none of the “communist” countries considered themselves Communist. They were “dictatorships of proletariat” – socialist countries preparing ground for communism. That was the official doctrine and the reality according to Marxist-Leninist theory.
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“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.” — H.L. Mencken
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At the outset of the multicultural push, I remember they were selling it using a similar logic.
If America had every nationality on earth living here, Chinese, Japanese, blacks, whites, Mexicans, then those countries would be less willing to attack us because they would be attacking their own people.
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The more likely result is that we’ll be less likely to attack them because we’ll be attacking their own. America is currently a rent-a-cop used by various ethnic lobbies to attack their rivals overseas. But the regime is becoming so diverse that soon we can’t attack anyone without domestic blow back.
Consider Asian Americans of Chinese descent. That demographic is the only major one with a positive view of China’s CCP. That’s mostly ethnic pride. If that demographic assumes a major role in American finance and media, it won’t be possible to pursue our collective interests against China in trade or war because a fifth column won’t allow it. They’ll make up some excuse to disguise that fact, but they won’t agree to make war on their coethnics.
This is a common occurrence in American history. For example, we’re taught that we entered WWI to “make the world safe for democracy” but actually it was an ethnic conflict. The US was majority British and had a strong Anglo culture. We intervened to help our coethnics who were in trouble.
Woodrow Wilson & Franklin Roosevelt were both WASPs of British extraction, and the strongest support for both World Wars came from British coethnics in the South* (Southern Senators gave us Lend Lease). The strongest opposition to the wars came from Germanic groups and Germanic celebrities like Charles Lindbergh (whom I consider a true American hero). NYC had Nazi rallies attended by German immigrants prior to the invasion of Poland and Hollywood directors like Von Stroheim (Austrian Jew) were admired by German immigrants for his suave portrayal of Austrian officers. Southern WASP director D.W. Griffith made outright pro-war propaganda films trying to get the country to help his British coethnics in WWI.
*IHMO: The British heavily promoted the film Gone With The Wind because it was a sly pro-war film. The Yankee invader was the German Hun and The South was the brave British fighting against overwhelming odds. The South was the most heavily Anglo region and most pro-British. Without the support of Southern Senators, support for the British would have been much less. The movie adaptation of the book was simply an attempt to rally ethnic support for helping the British out against their common ethnic rivals.
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I feel like the CCP has already bought so many people off with the cash from shopping carts full of savings that having their coethnics in place is nearly redundant at this point.
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It’s interesting to see that NATO and the most powerful military in the world are once again side-lined by a less powerful military. We heard for decades that the Western military machine was never designed for asymmetrical warfare. Which was one of the many reasons for the failure in Vietnam and every 3rd-world conflict since, up to and including Afghanistan – or at least that’s their excuse.
Now, for the first time since WWII, the US could stand up their conventional military to defend Ukraine against an equally conventional military in order to promote “freedom and democracy” just like they have everywhere else in the world. But they won’t.
And it has nothing to do with NATO treaties or because they fear a nuclear retaliation (even Putin isn’t that stupid) but because the current powers in charge are going to make the best of a crisis like they always do.
The Biden administration wasted no time with “Putin’s Price Hike” and you can expect that to continue as the excuse d’jour for every commodity shortage, rise in inflation and price hike in the future.
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One of the things circulating in the war strategy focused channels on-line is how the Russians are using a relatively small force to pin down and attack a large force. Prior to the war, Ukraine had the best prepared army in Europe by conventional assessment. They had 250K combat ready troops with modern equipment. NATO had been training their commanders in modern warfighting and training their soldiers in modern small unit tactics. Most important, they had a lot of combat experience in the Donbas. A decade of war allowed for a lot of troops to be cycled into combat.
Despite all of this, the Russians are systematically degrading the Ukrainian military by pinning it down and relentlessly shelling it with artillery. The javelin and switchblade were supposed to be the great equalizer to Russian armor, but according to the Ukrainian army they have been ineffective. The truly baffling aspect is the Ukrainians have allowed themselves to be pinned down and cut off.
If this is happening to the Ukrainian army, imagine how the NATO forces would perform? After this is over, the West is going to have to do some very serious rethinking of its war fighting.
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i would say the ‘fog of war’ has been lifted through comms technology. from my reading the ukraine forces have been herded into a small area, and can neither leave nor attack. they cannot be supported by the air, nor can they be resupplied. for some reason zelensky would rather the army be annihilated than allowed to surrender. it’s like a chess player who does not accept that he has been mated, and keeps moving pieces around the board (even though the game is over).
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Is it really Zelensky calling the shots though or NATO? It makes sense when you view it from the perspective of insane Western elites who have no love or affinity for Ukraine or its people but rather as just another tool to attack Russia. Ukraine and her people isn’t the chess match itself, rather just another pawn in the larger overarching global chess match of global domination.
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Not mutually exclusive. Zelensky no doubt has the goods on many a Western pol. Being of the Tribe, he knows how to use leverage.
What’s even stranger is that the general public (and politicians’) belief is that the Russian military has been an embarrassing disaster. They truly believe that the Russian military has terrible leadership, practically non-existent logistics, laughably outdated technology, worthless troops and a non-functioning air force.
Now, how this military is able to capture the eastern portion of a huge country against a larger Ukrainian army that was equipped and trained by NATO doesn’t seem to bother anyone. (The last part of that sentence is never brought up. Most people just assume that Ukraine had almost no military and what they had was ill-equipped and trained.)
The conventional view among at least the non-military elite is that the United States would utterly wipe out the Russian military. Our superior air force and missiles would obliterate the Russian military without NATO troops needing to do much of anything other than clean up the mess. Death from above.
Even when all of this is over, that will be the view of the American and European elite, which is very dangerous.
The problem with this theory is the enemy always gets a vote. With NATO and particularly America now being an open belligerent, our assets are legitimate targets for Russia. The American government wants to play this game where they publicly say we are not involved while actively supplying Ukraine in both offensive weapons and information.
Back in WW2, the rules were “cash and carry” for arms sales. Belligerent nations could sail to America in their own ships, pay for everything in gold on delivery (no credit) and then they sail their own ships back to their nation. Presumably, these are still the rules, only the cash part of cash and carry is with fiat currency. We are giving them advanced offensive weapons for free. That makes us a participant in the war just as much as if American GIs were fighting in Ukraine.
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“And it has nothing to do with NATO treaties or because they fear a nuclear retaliation (even Putin isn’t that stupid)”
They absolutely fear nuclear retaliation and that is why this hasn’t gotten hotter. You get brief flashes of this. The nuclear war prospect has kept the West sidelined. The Ruling Class has not had skin in the game since ’45 and won’t start now unless the crazies prevail, which is quite possible.
Putin doesn’t want it but it may be forced on him. It’s a terrible mistake to dismiss the prospect.
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Don’t forget these are the decedents of the geniuses who slept-walked into WW1.
How will the West react if a carrier is sunk? Or if all these weapons being shipped are targeted successfully?
Don’t forget about small yield tactical nuclear weapons. I hear Russia has a large stockpile of small dial-a-yield tactical nuclear weapons.
Frankly, I have a lot more confidence in Russia’s ability to avoid making it a larger war than the West’s ability to avoid it. We are led by knaves and fools.
Hypocrisy highlight time.
Today’s topic is, once again, a wonderful opportunity for Bongino bashing. Bongino is an hysterical advocate for peaceful societal relations and will come to your house and personally beat you if you resist his entreaty to vote harder in the upcoming elections. Furthermore, if you even hint at employing non-traditional means in political protest (read tangible acts of rebellion), he will feel compelled to kill you first because the “process” is more important than stopping enslavement or a genocide.
Like Carlson and Hannity, Bongino holds himself up as a paragon of liberal democratic virtue, but can’t see the forest for the trees. We live in an increasingly insane world in which a dementia patient is president, men compete women’s sports, elementary school teachers coerce kindergarten children into becoming trannies, and Nazi Jews are a real thing. Yet the process must be defended even if it means burning the heretics at the stake (peacefully of course).
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Good post, but I’d just add that this —
“Like Carlson and Hannity, Bongino holds himself up as a paragon of liberal democratic virtue, but can’t see the forest for the trees.”
is just show biz. Or marketing.
They may or may not, as individuals, be able to see the forest, but it doesn’t matter b/c it’s not real. It’s show biz. It’s carefully scripted.
Hannity’s market is working-class blue-collar viewers who still watch NFL broadcasts.
Tucker’s is those with more schooling and money and more strictly bourgeois sensibilities.
Bongino’s market is veterans and the whole flag-waving “Thank-you-for-your-service” crowd.
All fake. All staged. All marketing. All merchandise. All carefully scripted show biz.
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it seems like the yin and yang of democracies, is tied to their economic cycles. when the economy is healthy, they mostly engage in peaceful endeavors. when the economy is faltering, they engage in war like activities. weimar germany was a democracy that did not go into war mode (when the economy cratered) and ended up being taken over by a far more virulent form of governance. in the US during the depression, there was a lot of concern about the country going communist (or at least socialist) so the feds ginned up lots of make-work, and provoked japan into starting a war for them.
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Every day is war in America. Been like that for the 55 years I have been on this planet. You always have to be on your guard. If you drop your guard for a second, some sheister comes at you and gets your money in a moment of your weakness. It is non stop. And in the constant physical threats from our beloved darker folks. And then the country at large does the same to the world.
This place has some of the trappings and ornaments of civilization but at heart is a glorified colonial outpost and fort. And with our current demographic, it is a glorified jungle.
But I can’t help but love it and remember all the great things about it. But I guess in the end it is my first love and has dumped me just the same.
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I think one of the biggest obstacles, or maybe that isn’t the right word, but what makes people scared of losing democracy is that it means people above them will then be allowed to treat them like garbage. And this is beside the point that they are already treated like garbage. But the idea lingers that if we get out of democracy, will people still be kind and humane? Is it possible?
The idea is so entrenched in the modern mind that being humane and kind and compassionate can only be possible in a democracy. That it is not instead a feature of humanity but something that only democracy can breed into people.
If there ever is to be another way, then disproving this idea will have to be front and center. Because otherwise people get real nervous thinking that without democracy there can only be slave masters and slaves.
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“I think one of the biggest obstacles, or maybe that isn’t the right word, but what makes people scared of losing democracy is that it means people above them will then be allowed to treat them like garbage”
I think there is probably some truth to this. Just look at the “elites” today. What would they do if they thought they could get away with it? I’m sure quite a few of them have asked themselves, “why can’t we just kill them?”
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I mean, that IS their goal, ultimately. Depopulation. And it’s a valid question from their perspective. They can get people to believe just about anything else with their lies, why not convince them to commit suicide in the name of Democracy?
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Falcone, it seems like you are articulating the argument that democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others.
On the other hand, conservatives and the dissident right observe the existence of a natural hierarchy and sometimes argue that this hierarchy should be manifest in how society is structured.
The fear that you express, which I understand, is that if we acknowledge this hierarchy then the more fit will prey on the less fit. Since few of us are the best at anything, we fear being preyed upon in such a society.
Yet hierarchy exists, whether we acknowledge it or not. Democracy is an attempt to obscure this fact.
We want to choose the least bad form of government. My hope is that an ethnostate will foster feelings of kinship that will reduce the urge of the fit to prey on the unfit, but no system is fail-safe.
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That’s why the feudal system seemed to work best. Sure, you had the king at the top, but he relied on the next level of royalty to supply his troops. And sure, the Lord was above the peasants, but he relied on them to harvest his crops, etc. With this level of interdependence and decentralized control or interlinked nodes of power it was hard for one node to get too out of line.
But the ultimate system does not exist because no system is self-executing. Garbage people in, garbage results out, regardless of the system. Good people in, good results out.
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“One last effort to immanentize the eschaton will violently remove this lunacy from the mind of Western man.”
Best concluding sentence I’ve read in a long time.
“…the claims of democracy and now liberal democracy are incompatible with humanity.”
You (Z) have written about that, often obliquely. Perhaps yuou might say more about how and why you’ve come to that conclusion. Maybe you discuss it in your forthcoming collection.
If world government could be successfully implemented, amid the proper proportion of diversity, equity and inclusion, at least here in the West, we might become a mega-Chicago, ducking behind the dumpsters in the hope of avoidng the frequent scatter of random gunfire.
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Isn’t the central conceit of democracy simply that everyone gets an equal voice because everyone is equal? But everyone is not equal, so the idea of democracy is at war with reality.
There was an old term for war with reality, which we have become too smart to use any longer, but that’s what we have now. Democracy is literally rule by demons.
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The lunatics may have finally bitten off more they can deal with in Russia and China.
We shall see.
The feminization of public policy is what drives me crazy and will probably do them in.
Emotional crap.
Cancelling an entire nation in Russia and now we will probably have to endure vagina marches all summer, screaming women and effeminate men.
I wish Democracy would do it’s natural Jonestown ending.
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Jonestown ending? Well…screaming women and effeminate men disproportionately and enthusiastically got the Jonestown Jab…
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They’ve tipped their hand somewhat in Europe.
Basically, the plan in Europe is to convert the entire continent into proxy cannon fodder to grind Russia down.
Today it’s Ukraine.
Tomorrow it could be Poland.
Next week Romania.
The week after that, Bulgaria.
Eventually the Baltics, then Finland, Norway, etc.
Not sure what they will do with China. India has already shown it’s not going to fall in line.
The Taiwan howitzer delay to 2026 gives some idea how bad the supply chains are for the MIC.
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“The Taiwan howitzer delay to 2026 gives some idea … .”
There will be a general war before ’26.
Faux democracy and capitalism operate hand-in-hand. They share the same basic ethos, competition. Just as capitalists compete against one another for sales and profits, elements of democracy compete for votes and policy positions. Democratic societies compete as well against non-democratic ones. The idea of cooperation is completely foreign to democratic capitalist societies, who consider life to be a zero-sum affair, any development that advances the case of someone else is of necessity a drawback to the democracy. Russian sales of hydrocarbons to Europe is a tragedy. The Chinese making agreements with the Solomons is a signal of approaching disaster. Negotiation and compromise may not result in what can be considered the optimum result. War is better.
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“One last effort to immanentize the eschaton will violently remove this lunacy from the mind of Western man”.
Excellent word-craft. Said effort will be violent and most likely remove Western man entirely – not just the mindset.
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If we could only come to accept the fact that an imperfect creature cannot form a “more perfect union”, never mind a perfect union.
To correct the poet, a man’s reach should not exceed his grasp, for tis what’s a heaven for.
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Looks like Antifa is warming up for the summer season as violent RvW protests break out in LA:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cops-attacked-windows-smashed-during-abortion-protest-la
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You have to admit, there probably isn’t a clearer dividing line between the good guys and the bad guys that this particular battle. Are you on the “yes” to killing babies, or “no” to killing babies.
Pretty easy battle lines to draw and defend.
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The left is really good at quickly mobilizing their most violent elements.
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You gave the US more credit for peace then it deserves. After the country was established we immediately went to war against the Muslim Pirates of the Mediterranean, then after the War of 1812 we fought the Seminoles in Florida for twenty years, and then Mexico.
After the Civil War we spent the rest of the decade in constant war against the Plains Indians. Before World War 1 we invaded Mexico chasing Villa.
After World War 1 we fought in Russia and in the Caribbean and Central America. Since World War 2 we’ve been all over the place.
This of course just reinforces your point that we’ve been at war for many more years then at peace. We are a warlike people.
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The US went to war with the Barbary pirates because they wouldn’t stop kidnapping US citizens and robbing US merchant vessels in the Mediterranean.
To me, those seem like decent reasons to go kick someone around until they change their behavior.
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Better reason than most of the wars we have decided to wage since then. I can’t even remember why we started the last few. We are about to fight a nuclear superpower for no apparent reason at all.
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The War for Independence was necessary, and the War of 1812 was necessary. The US gov’t has never been involved in any other necessary war.
Never.
“Democracy is the worship of jackals by jackasses.”
– H.L. Mencken
The “jackals” are the elites who control the system. The “jackasses” are those folks in the general public who somehow believe that they themselves control the system — or at least have meaningful influence over it. When the elites own all political candidates, who, in truth, controls the system through voting? When the bulk of power rests with unelected bankers and unelected bureaucrats, what importance does the sainted “will of the majority” play?
Democracy is bad theory from one angle. From a realist’s perspective, however, it is simply fraud. ALL governments are oligarchies. There is no Democracy.
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“There is no Democracy.”
And there is no rule of law. Laws do not enforce themselves, and if those whose duty it is to enforce the laws do not enforce them, then there is no law, let alone a “rule” of law.
Men rule over other men.
That is all.
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You ain’t wrong! So many of America’s so-called cherished values — consent of the governed, rule of law, universal equality, etc. — at best, represent blind-eyed idealism divorced from easily observable reality. At worst, they are cynical ruses propagated by a duplicitous ruling class.
I was listening to AJ the other day. He was interviewing a Messianic Jewish hip-hopper, and they got into a brief discussion about how words are spells, how Hebrew and Aramaic are dense and metaphorical, English shallow and scientific, or something like that.
Meanwhile, I’ve been wondering lately about ideology and how it depends on education and propaganda— words, basically. The above interview reminded me of the idea that words are spells.
Not going to flesh it out to keep this as short as possible, but I suspect this is the root of the insanity. Words, ideology, spells. Not nature, body and spirit, not what’s real. A spell that’s breaking.
I was a kid when the Cold War ended. I was never really under its spell. I think this is a line that marks the end of an era. If there is hope of avoiding total disaster, the vanguard of the new era must get off its ass and exert itself to overcome the old one, with its obsession with the Apocalypse. Then we’ll have new problems for sure, but at least we’ll be around to tackle them.
All of the Age of Aquarius stuff was like the Great Reset, I think. A guilty conscience trying to dictate the mess it knows it’s creating— to keep the party going— instead of coming clean.
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The GAE’s archons would certainly agree that words are spells. And that is why they expend so much effort in controlling language.
They wantonly redefine words to mesh with new policy and ideology positions. They categorize broad swaths of discourse as “hate speech,” which harms their preferred people. They wage total war on certain truths, which, of course, can only be manifested through utterance.
They believe that through suppressing some speech, mandating other speech, and warping the very definition of words, they can rejig–so to speak–the social hierarchy, elevating the deviant, dumb and destructive, and subjugating the normal, intelligent and productive. If they are correct, this way goes the annihilation of civilization.
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Not sure what you mean by “spells” but words are certainly used to frame, create a mindset, and therefore shape perception of reality. Reminds me of the Wrinkle in Time book (not the atrocious movie) scene where the boy and sister are being fed by the aliens – the sister thinks the meal is fine (steak and potatoes or something) the boy recognizes it as some undifferentiated goop or slop. Has to explain (boysplaining?) to his sister that she thinks it’s steak because the aliens are able to penetrate her mind and make her see it as such, whereas he is able to block what is essentially the aliens’ propaganda and see the slop for what it is.
That scene explains so much.
With the Unites States, the biggest issue with transitioning to an undemocratic and unmilitary mythos is our founding was based on anti-monarchism and manifest destiny. Enlightenment values and aggressive expansion has been part of the American Story since its founding. Once we ran out of land to grab out west and take from Mexico, we turned to more advanced conquest through cultural warfare, essentially erasing through propaganda the past heritage of proud people and replacing it with Americanist consumer glop.
It’s hard to think of a new American mythos that can reject Enlightenment values and its own moral certainty. The Left is restructuring American History as the battle of minorities to create a multicultural and equal America it was meant to be with suicidal fervor, and the right is still clinging to ‘muh constitution’ and ‘muh freedom’ as Heritage Americans become a hated minority.
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I see a couple of things that hobble democracy from its noble aspirations: an intractable paranoia and the corresponding moral necessity to spread itself, i.e. imperialism.
The democracy sandwich is that of the moral righteousness of constant, unmitigated political and moral self-propagation and the paranoia of constant threat by those neighbors less than entirely enthusiastic about being subsumed by the cleansing power of democracy.
So democracy must be spread. By force, if necessary. The necessity of which always presents. Because anything but democracy is a threat. Neighbors failing to recognize democracy as the apex of human governance is also then a threat. And all threats to democracy must be eliminated.
The natural paranoia of democracy, which lends easily toward war and even genociding neighbors as a preemptive necessity to preserve the democratic purity, falls upon itself once the imperialism becomes part of the moral authority.
To your point we are seeing what happens when that imperialism runs out of foreign political borders to ruin. She comes home drunk and angry. Heritage is a threat to democracy. And the sacred scrolls heritage clings to will not save the Greatest Threat to Our Democracy from the full force of the true religion of peace.
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“To your point we are seeing what happens when that imperialism runs out of foreign political borders to ruin.”
The American South was the Judeo-Puritan’s first conquest. And it was not followed by a Marshal Plan.
At least in the late 18th through 19th centuries, our liberal democratic violence was pretty much internal – we were slaughtering each other (and injuns). It wasn’t until the 1900’s & 2000’s that we started exporting our violence worldwide and on an industrial scale – all in the name of making the world a better place, of course. It’s hard to look at all that, especially after being taught (and having felt) we were always the good guys riding in to save the day. Our decrepit leadership in these later days has certainly served to expose the true nature and history of our “vaunted” liberal democracy.
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As Redlegs said in Josey Wales:
“Doin’ right….ain’t got no end….”
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“It’s hard to look at all that, especially after being taught (and having felt) we were always the good guys riding in to save the day.”
No Southerner has *ever* felt that.
What will haunt future historians is just how many effeminate ghouls ended up at the top of the food chain in “our democracy,” and just how long they lingered. As a matter of fact they lingered so long they had Alzheimers in office. It will be a miracle if we can avoid a hot war that goes nuclear. We should count our blessings if this thing is able to fall apart and be replaced with ONLY our ships sinking in the Strait of Formosa and not something far worse. We can easily mourn 10,000 trannies in Davy Jones’ locker. We can’t begin to mourn 100 million Americans being incinerated in their cities, unless I get to pick the cities of course.
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The long-term goal of liberal democracy is to create a race of intelligent but weak, pathetic, and sniveling bug-creatures who are capable of swarming and killing the less populous but stronger warrior types. Of course, this requires, global domination, so that strong genes will have no refuge and get completely wiped out.
Think a world of Bill Gates clones.
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Liberal democracy, like communism and evangelical religions, can’t stop expanding. They are on the side of angels. To not try and spread democracy is like not trying to save a soul from hell.
To its adherents, it’s literally immoral to allow anyone around the world to live under any system other than liberal democracy. They won’t quit. They can’t quit.
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The guy who claimed to have written Reagan’s “tear down this wall” speech has written about his experience in Berlin during that time. He described West Berlin with busy sidewalks, modem architecture, bustling establishments. East Berlin was decrepit and dark with guard dogs and barbed wire. The comparison he made was a color television vs. a black/white television. His account was quite moving at the time. It was compelling to imagine the West as the Saviors, with democracy and freedom in their wings. That sentiment carried over into the Bush years and the Middle East. First and foremost, America means freedom and liberty for all.
History provides a clear understanding of the destruction caused by communism. But as we see the devastation in the name of “freedom and democracy!”, it’s harder to recognize that line between the ‘good guys’ and the ‘bad guys’. Are there any Germans who now wish they could go back and reconstruct that wall?
I was born in the early 70’s and was fortunate to experience life in the 80’s.
The country we are leaving to our children is soulless. It’s not easy to come to terms with that fact.
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Democracy is a political system in which a well-organized minority rules over an unorganized majority.
I’m kind of politically bipolar and maybe actually bipolar. This alito guy seems like an evil Catholic monarch type and I wish the worst for him. But maybe having this war with Europe is kind of a punishment. Like if you keep putting theocrats on the court then maybe a worldwide depression is what we deserve.
If we still had enlightened guys like Blackman or Brennan, then I would oppose this war. Because if it’s your country, then you might as well make something of it.
The Catholics had to step in because the Protestants went crazy and started justifying abortion. They lost their way. For better or worse, the Catholics had to step up and TRY to impose some basic morality.
And as people here know, I truly believe that the abortion issue is the root cause of the mass lunacy we see all around. It has untethered people from the very basics of nature, a mind and spirit joined together to destroy life and living, in beings whose main function is to reproduce, and the internal conflicts and discord have resulted in lunacy. And it is not just a casual posture but an energetic and determined one. The ghost in the machine has a ghost at compete odds with the machine. How can it not lock up and go haywire?
I think it goes beyond religion. We are dealing with something much deeper. Religion is just an expression of it, and if takes a Catholic to bring light to shine on it, then so be it. Someone has to.