The closest thing we have to a universal principle of human society is that all elites are primarily concerned with maintaining their status as elites. No matter how the society is organized and for what purpose, the number one priority of a social elite is maintaining themselves as the elite. In fact, it is reasonable to say that the point of society, from the perspective of elites, is to maintain the elite. Any benefit to the people is either to maintain the standing of the elite or a happy accident.
It is tempting to think that the best way for an elite to maintain itself is to make sure the people over whom it rules is happy. A good king keeps his people in peace and prosperity, so the people are happy to have him as king. The trouble is, there is always someone who thinks they can do a better job than the king. Good times or bad times, these people will look for their opportunity. Of course, in good times, a new elite can form up outside the system and potentially rival the existing elite.
It turns out that good times bring dangers to an elite. In fact, good times are more of a problem than bad times, because in bad times the elite can use the emergency as a way to rally the people. Roosevelt used the Great Depression to rally the people around a set of alien ideas called the New Deal. His massive expansion of the state was totally at odds with American tradition, but times were tough and the people trusted him, so they went along with his radical ideas.
Emergencies are a great way to bind the people to their current elites. Unless the elite proves to be unable to unwilling to face the emergency, the people will give their existing rulers the benefit of the doubt. Throughout the Cold War, Americans were willing to tolerate all sorts of trouble, because the threat of nuclear war made the idea of challenging the elites seem risky. There was plenty of cultural turmoil, much of it from the top, but the great American middle never wavered.
That gets to the other way elites maintain power. By pitting one group against another, the people are too busy with that to question authority. In fact, self-interest leads them to appeal to the exiting authority to resolve the conflict. If crime suddenly becomes a problem in your town, those complaints about the cops suddenly go away as long as the cops do something about the crime. By keeping the masses busy with various small issues, elites can defend against the formation of rival elites.
This explains the turmoil of the 1960’s and 1970’s. The race revolts, youth rebellion and cultural revolution were not grassroots phenomenon. All of these things were the product of the exiting elites. Look into the background of the radical leaders of that period and most of them came from elite backgrounds. Once their radical days were done, they went into positions within elite institutions. Even those who committed serious crimes were welcomed back home.
The second half of the 20th century was a game of good cop – bad cop on the American people by the ruling elite that emerged after the war. The bad cops created cultural mayhem that “freaked out the squares” while the good cops appealed to the people’s patriotism and decency to fight the Cold War. One hand created division while the other hand created unity. Often these two forces were pitted against one another to the benefit of the ruling class.
During the Cold War, this system served the elites very well. The threat of nuclear war forced the agents of control to contain the agents of chaos. At the same time, the agents of chaos understood they had limits. The two sides of the ruling class were not always in balance, but they always returned to balance. The chaos of civil rights gave way to the control of racial peace. The cultural chaos of the 1960’s and 1970’s gave way to the control of the 1980’s.
Ever since the end of the Cold war, this system has been in crisis. Without the threat of nuclear annihilation, the agents of chaos have no limits. At the same time, the agents of control no longer have to worry as much about the façade of democracy. The crusades against the Muslims brought some stability to the problem, but the Muslims were never a serious threat like the Soviets. For the last two decades the agents of chaos and control have been running wild.
This explains the ridiculous things we see today. On the one hand, the security state is wantonly violating civil rights in order to maintain control. The extent of the crimes committed by the FBI is unknown, but what is known is shocking. On the other hand, the super-rich finance crackpot schemes to unleash crime waves and pervert the law to torment the people. Throwing open the jails and appointing pro-crime prosecutors is the definition of societal madness.
The standard explanation from conservatives for what we are seeing is that the people behind this stuff want money or power. The trouble is the people behind this stuff already have money and power. In fact, they have more money and power than any ruling elite in human history. Western elites, especially the American elites, make the aristocracy of 18th century France look poor and impotent. Clearly, the motivation behind this behavior is not money or power.
What we may be seeing is the organic death of a ruling elite. The 20th century selected for a certain type of person in the American ruling class. One type was the agent of chaos and the other type was the agent of control. There was no selection pressure in favor of prudence or moral scruples. The great crises of the 20th century provided something like an electric fence around the elite. Over time, these conditions produced an elite incapable of self-limit.
Like the panda bear, our elite has evolved down a dead end. They thrash around looking for some great crisis to serve the same role as the Cold War, but that was a unique period in human history. It cannot be replicated. Meanwhile, the agents of chaos and control explore the outer limits of their sociopathy. Unencumbered by the fear of destruction, they keep pushing the limits, while simultaneously creating the conditions for their own demise.
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That said, in the world but not of it. It’s a fine needle to thread. That’s the mystery of life, the cause of much spiritual suffering, and many bad ideas, imo. Also why I think life is the cross. We’re all commissioned to deal with this thing without being consumed by it. Even if irreligious, there’s there natural impulse of life to thrive in a hostile and constantly changing environment. FWIW
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Time for elite replacement
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Time for elite replacement? No. REMOVAL.
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You can’t remove the elite—as in “eliminate”. People are not able as a whole to self govern. Inevitably, one “elite” is replaced by another. Never seen it any other way. It’s in man’s nature to be ruled by his “betters”. Only relief one can hope for is to reduce centralized authority and what is considered “normative” wrt rule by elite. However, even that requires a populace that is used to being self reliant. That went away long ago, so we are screwed.
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“An elite incapable of self-limit” combined with a generational devolution similar to the Hapsburgs. On scale.
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I believe our elites are not like panda bears but rats, constantly evolving and finding some dark corner to scurry into for self preservation. They really aren’t intelligent and as the world is changing it’s becoming harder for them to find that rat hole to hide in. The Ukraine war is a good example. It was dumb to get involved by initiating the coup, but as I mentioned before these elites are not very smart. They have a deep hatred for Russians and underestimated them, as they do all other peoples. They actually believe the meme of the dumb, drunk Russian who they can fool and manipulate. 1917 was a lot different than today. They will never admit being wrong, however, and will let the whole world burn down before doing so.
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When you start shipping money around in round deca-billions, there is a lot of opportunity. Doesn’t it make Dementia Joe’s reference to the withholding the $1b loan seem quaint?
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May I quibble with your animal analogies.
Rats are intelligent, inventive, and affectionate. They know how to survive and will share the world with cockroaches when everything else has died off. Now I’ve never been faced with a hungry rat wanting to gnaw my face off in a back alley, but I’ve had pet rats, and they are wonderful animals.
Pandas are stupid and pampered creatures who would have the good sense to become extinct were it not for the Chinese and American obsession with them. They do nothing of value. They only roll around and eat bamboo…in fact, they only eat ONE KIND of bamboo and if they can’t find that bamboo, they will suicide starve. They also are extremely picky about sex. They will not procreate unless the conditions are EXACTLY right and both partners have to be attracted to one another, in panda world. To get pandas to reproduce, there is a hilarious ruse that Chinese scientists must perform. Read about it. I am not making this up. Pandas are the soyboy non-binary bugmen of the animal world. They are a perfect analogy to the American elite.
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Learned more about pandas today than I ever would have expected.
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Heavens! Every day another boomer truth has to fall. I never noticed that Panda worshipping was another of these inversions that abound in our post Christianity times. Now I would make my mission to kill Pandas if I have the means LOL.
But seriously, the red pill has not ended. This article has dismantled my view of the 60s-80s from a tumultuous time where rights were being fought for to just another psyop (Chaos and Control were the agencies of the Get Smart show so they even confess their modus op). The worst thought is that this new theory makes sense. The only consolation is that humanity is truly a peaceful species. Given the industrial amounts of bile and hatred rammed through our throats continuously by the media I am surprised we don’t have constant ultra left/right extremists causing trouble. The only trouble can always be traced back to an FBI plot or the FBI leaving a known nut to arm themselves and terrorize a public space (school preferred to maximize social division).
My biggest red pill moment so far was realizing the problem started around 1789 rather than 1970 (or 1950/40/10). My cursory knowledge of philosophy also made me aware that German philosophers on the XIX century trying to be the best thinker of all history and be taken seriously on their crackpot ideas is the cause of so many problems.
Honestly my only hope is in the future. The Christian institutions we had before the XVIII century were going to buckle anyways, you can put whatever century or decade you prefer to date your ideal past and you can see that then things were already f***ed up and they had no critical defense against all the subversion that came after. You cannot compete with the dark forces of hedonistic/narcissistic temptations that go directly to the subconscious with the mental weapons we had. The ship of ideas has almost never had a good driver. They can infiltrate our minds even in the name of defending the weak, the poor, and introduce sad storytelling (that we are still weak for, Netflix is full of documentaries to brainwash the weak of mind) to defend any bad behavior.
But the future needs something that can only be called divine intervention (and I am agnostic) to figure out a worldview that attracts and motivates the best people to work hard and at the same time is immune to clever subversion. Getting rid of the idea of equality forever is a must and some things will be hard to process for our current churches of nice, so it is not an easy path.
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They also are extremely picky about sex. They will not procreate unless the conditions are EXACTLY right
Sigh. I went out with her in college.
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We’ve all been panda’d at one time or another.
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“Pandas are stupid and pampered creatures who would have the good sense to become extinct were it not for the Chinese and American obsession with them.”
Never thought of it that way! Begs the question: how natural is the panda? How long have humans supported them, removed selection pressure? Yet still the symbol of the WWF lol. Clown world clowns on.
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“I believe our elites are not like panda bears but rats, constantly evolving and finding some dark corner to scurry into for self preservation. They really aren’t intelligent and as the world is changing it’s becoming harder for them to find that rat hole to hide in.”
Agreed. A stupid elite is a dangerous one. Ours is even worse because the idiocy is accompanied by impulsiveness. These feminized buffoons could stumble into nuclear war very easily.
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In the movie “Oblivion” an alien race conquers Earth and then utilizes clones modeled on “the best of us” to act as the cops/enforcers of the new alien-loving society that they impose. This scheme is now playing out in real life.
The elites within the Citadel require protection in the event that a collapse unleashes brutal retribution. They rely on “good men” serving as LEOs or National Guard to provide this protection, and even though these men come from common stock (read dirt people status), they perform their duty out of habit and a residual sense of personal integrity. This is the only real obstacle to hitting an early bottom and then rebounding quickly with least harm to innocents. But sadly, the elites will work their ass off in order to pit patriots against LEOs in a war of mutual annihilation, kill off as many alphas as possible, and pave the way for the arrival of the Jackboots.
To beat this gambit, and save innocent lives, it is necessary to bypass the guard bees and focus solely on the root of the problem. Modeling strongly suggests that the optimum way to do this is to utilize anonymity and the fog of chaos as your cloak of invisibility. No amount of Praetorian Guard can stop the bolt from the blue.
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> But sadly, the elites will work their ass off in order to pit patriots against LEOs in a war of mutual annihilation, kill off as many alphas as possible, and pave the way for the arrival of the Jackboots.
The rhetoric of the right isn’t “Shoot the pigs” as much as “do not comply and make their life hard”.
The boomer-waffen who smoked the robber went to the police for questioning with his lawyer, which still isn’t ideal but far better than what most right wingers would do ten years ago, who would go to the cops without a lawyer and try to explain themselves.
The next step, when he cops want to question you for any nonsense, is to just completely disappear or look to flee to a friendly Eastern European country like that J6 guy.. They simply don’t have the resources to go full J6 FBI on every dissident.
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“They simply don’t have the resources to go full J6 FBI on every dissident.”
Underestimating the resources and will of the government, and the compliance of the majority of the population has gotten many a dissident in trouble in the past. It’s always good to reread Solzhenitsyn for perspective.
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Oblivion? You seem to be describing a different movie than the Tom Cruise one I saw. Basically, Cruise is a clone, yes, whose job is to hunt down earth survivors, yes, while the earth is drained of water. Cruise is not the best of the best, but just a human astronaut the aliens happened upon on their way to invade/conquer earth.
The aliens are really not elites ruling humans. Humans are simply the human survivors left over from the invasion and Cruise is useful in the continuing mop up effort (as in suppression) while earth’s resources are plundered. The aliens are never shown and for all we know, the invasion might simply be a (programmed) robotic one—hence the cloning of Cruise for mop up work—albeit Cruise is programmed to think he is doing “God’s work” in eliminating the remaining survivors of earth. The aliens are really not interested in ruling earth, just in grabbing resources and moving on to the next planet.
Other than a bit of a different take on using “Oblivion” as an intro/comparison the rest of your analogy/argument holds.
In the movie, the character played by Morgan Freeman uses the line “the best of us” to describe the Tom Cruise character. Last I checked, you have to be top notch to become an astronaut.
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As someone once said, the true history of the 1960’s has yet to be written. It was a fake “revolution” from above, a coup within the ruling elite, a KGB op, a CIA op, a reaction to the coming of the birth control pill and antibiotics, a Jewish power play, a weaponized crime wave, and a lot of other things, all happening at the same time. It’s no wonder that our current elites are a confused mess, the period that brought them to power was as well.
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I just finished reading a book called chaos by Tom O’Neil. Google the name Jolly West. His name keeps showing up on a lot of 60s hijinks
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Racist roads and overpasses, banning of gas stoves, $7 eggs, it’s all so random and deflects from the real destruction they are committing.
Anyone else think the ,notice to air mission, system used by airlines that crashed might just be a cyber attack. One of many types that will become more common in the future. With limp wristed woke retareded millennials overseeing us and our infrastructure, why should we worry.
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A cyber attack would be a blessing. The scarier issue might be that competency in software development has completely degraded to the point we’re no longer able to maintain complex systems. And no, AI will not save us if that’s the case.
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Bingo! The problem with the supposition of “cyber attack” leveled in all these cases of failure is “why”. If I detected an enemy weakness, why would I expose such knowledge to them? I’d note it and keep it “on the shelf” for any future conflict.
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Or it’s just some sort of test. How hard is it to shut down and restart all air traffic. Last time, 911, took a couple weeks. Much more efficient this time
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Whitney,
Part of the restart was clamping on the fetters of the new security state. That took a little time, but allowing the optimal restart of the air transit system ran at cross purposes to this original example of lock-down, one of the main, if not THE main purpose of which was the institutionalization government-mandated fear among the populace.
Good things take time…
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They liked how that worked so well toward their purposes that it has been a continual succession of similar flim flams ever since. I needn’t list them, as you can identify them and trace the course of their implementations yourself.
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What gets called AI *is* unmaintanable complexity.
An example that matters more than you’d think: YouTube’s recommendation/promotion/censorship rules—”the algorithm”—are a product of “machine learning.” The code is indecipherable. They have no idea how it’s decided to work. When it goes astray and starts, e.g., banning tranny leftists because they say so many of the same words a bunch of banned conservatives have said, YT can’t cleanly roll it back—not because it’s not possible, but for fear of it permanently un-learning some subtle way it’s invented to thwart viewer curiosity.
A friend of mine got a “community strike” a few weeks ago. The company wouldn’t (couldn’t) tell him why (or reverse it) but eventually we narrowed it down to his having used the word “lied” in a video title. You know, German for “song.” But also it’s a thing you’re not allowed to accuse a government or corporation or (???) of having done. Strike one—with attendant permanent algorithmic repression. Of a channel about Mahler.
$9 a dozen here. I’ve contemplated buying whole cartons and selling “loosies” out in front of the grocery store
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David Wright: Could easily have been a cyberattack. Could also, just as easily or simultaneously, have been diverse incompetence given the people ‘in charge’ –
FAA Administrator, Billy Nolan, jogger
Deputy Administrator, Bradley Mims, jogger
Person specifically in charge of NOTAMs (the system that failed), Shamekia Moser, jogger
I also noticed the timely placement yesterday of an article at the Daily Mail warning that the US power grid was ‘physically attacked’ more than 100 times in 2022, and that ‘domestic terrorists’ are planning on further attacks.
So, you see, it’s really quite simple: Evil wypipo want to destroy the electric grid and destroy your democracy. Evil Russian wypipo want to destroy all computer networks and make Trailways of the Skies ‘unsafe’ or unusable.
Not to worry, though – ‘security experts’ from the FBI and the military have it all in hand. But be on the watch for evil wypipo.
They have their narrative. They always project and accuse others of what they do or are planning on doing themselves. They also always boast about their plans so that they can mock those who take notice as ‘conspiracy theorists.’
Game, set, match.
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The chaos element seems to have accelerated from the smelly hippies from the summer of love 1968 to a more crazed version of chaos in 2023. The control element has advanced into full on censorship and control of the citizens using all the available new high tech of the modern age.
How and when will our elite run into that wall?
My guess about the how part will involve the Federal Reserve and debt or a war that requires those young midwesterners and southerners to fight for the elites and all that they will have is a hollowed out diversity, equity, and inclusion military available for the task.
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“The chaos element seems to have accelerated from the smelly hippies from the summer of love 1968 to a more crazed version of chaos in 2023.”
I remember my own parents and the father of my ex-wife emphasizing that there really weren’t that many hippies relative to the population at that time and that the hippies weren’t representative of the people of the time. It seemed important to them to make this point to me.
The hippies were praised and promoted. But by whom and why?
Control of the media is everything. But controlled by whom and what are the goals of those controllers?
My comment isn’t meant to exonerate the hippies but rather to call attention to the enormous power that the media has to define what events that our people believe are significant. Perhaps more importantly, the media can make events of huge significance, like the surrender of our borders, not exist at all in the minds of most.
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A far bigger demographic was the American teen of the post hippie era who had some residual elements of it (long hair, pot smoking) but otherwise part of mainstream American culture. Think of a movie like dazed and confused
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The non-elite are complicit when it comes to divide and rule.
Groups on their way up seek to climb over the group(s) on the next highest rung and, in that effort, to ally with the elite. The rich and the poor ally against the middle. The model predicts conflict between Blacks and Latinos, progressive whites and Asians and cis- v. trans-. It may partially explain the willingness of progressive whites to cashier the deplorable whites.
I’d look for an emerging alliance between the American elite and what emerges as the pan-Asian elite with the American elite minding the resource rich American store on behalf of its pan-Asian masters. If that should happen, we may hear the media saying, “Green New Deal? What Green New Deal?”
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“The trouble is the people behind this stuff already have money and power. In fact, they have more money and power than any ruling elite in human history. Western elites, especially the American elites, make the aristocracy of 18th century France look poor and impotent. Clearly, the motivation behind this behavior is not money or power…
“Meanwhile, the agents of chaos and control explore the outer limits of their sociopathy.”
The latter negates the former since sociopathy/control is or seeks power, no? The question isn’t really “how much is too much?” The question is can there ever be enough. The answer is a resounding “no.” Those who seek to impose a totalitarian society never can have enough power. Money is power, now more than ever, so they cannot have enough of that, either. There will be a breaking point, and most likely it will result from the self-sorting that is accelerating to the chagrin of people who want to outlaw gas stoves. Here’s to hoping against hope the break is peaceful.
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Enough is never enough for whom enough is not enough.
God is their standard. “Yeah, i want that much.” Somebody had to be God, yes?
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Outstanding, Jack. Yes, all wars are about money, power, and sometimes sex. That is why we all crave it to some degree or other, and we will use it if we attain it. Some of us will be corrupted by it if we accrue more than we can handle.
The other thing we are seeing now are the froots of liberal political doctrine. When they fight in the political arena they operate on wedge issues to divide and conquer their adversaries. It’s second nature to them and always in play. Welp…we are thoroughly and hopelessly divided now. The Dissidents themselves are an unintended consequence of this policy: we now have a growing demographic of angry disenfranchised white people that see where this is going, and they are comparing notes on how to head it off. Recall just recently when about 20 people shut down the nation in the great Speaker Of The House fiasco. The people involved were making distinctive Dissident noises. Dissent is going to become mainstream sooner rather than later.
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Not to see Jews everywhere, but you can’t look at America in the late 20th and early 21th century without discussing their influence and later dominance over the political and cultural systems.
Much of the turmoil and changes of the 1960s and beyond was based on Jewish ideas, money and organization. Minority rights was always a Jewish goal, as they view themselves as the ultimate minority. Immigration was pushed by Jews because they feel more comfortable and safe in a multi-racial country where they don’t stand out as much.
Coincidence or not, Jewish consolidation of political and cultural power coincided with the end of the Cold War. After winning the Cold War, the old WASP elite pulled back as Jewish money and organization took over. There were and are still plenty of non-Jews in the elite, but as Elon Musk shows, even the highest level white can’t cross certain lines, which shows who is really in charge.
But like a con man that cons his way into owning the company, Jews now find themselves in a position for which they are ill-suited. Their skill set is in making money off of the system, not running the system. They used “white guilt” and “systemic racism” to change the society to their liking. But now that they’re running the show and the white elite has either pulled back or being beaten down so bad, Jews have to figure out how to hold together a society built on hatred of the only group that keeps it functional.
So far, the results are not good. You can see that in their performance as the primary elite over the past 20 years. It’s been a disaster. It won’t get better.
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I have a nonprovable hypothesis that the 20th century was a kind of anomaly and contingent on certain things like the old production code. So it gave the tribe the ability to create a golden age of movies as well as music (probably a majority of hit songs before the Beatles were written by them).
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Bernie Madoff, Adam Nuemann (you guys don’t remember WeWork?) and Sam Bankman Fried all have two things in common.
5.5 million in a country of 330 million but probably hold over 50% of positions of power in both the private and public sector. Does make you wonder. Also the fact that you aren’t allowed to criticize them, yes, does make you really wonder.
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well, their biggest mistake (from their perspective) was importing their replacements. both the chinks and the pajeets are replacing the hebes all over the place.
Most systems have natural limits and I wonder what will finally collapse our ruling elite. Will they be like a dying star that expands and cools while desperately trying to smash less idea elements together for fusion before collapse into a brown dwarf (pun intended). Or maybe they’re downfall will be a germ or a bit of code someone was able to run in a subprogram unbeknownst to the main program. Or maybe they won’t reproduce and will simply run out of stock. In either case I plan to be around for the “I survived” t-shirt.
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“They thrash around looking for some great crisis to serve the same role as the Cold War, but that was a unique period in human history.”
Was it though? China vs the GAE appears to be shaping up as cold war or even hot war 2.0. However, it is certainly possible that America is just too decadent to fight such a hot or cold war effectively.
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What is China’s ideology? China is not exporting anything other than cheap products. The Soviets had an ideology and they were happy to export it.
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That’s the problem for our elite. It’s hard to drum up much patriotic fervor against China. They have no desire to physically threaten us, and they have no ideology that they’re trying to export.
At least with the Muslims, you could point to 9/11 and other acts of terrorism. China just hangs out on its side of the world.
America doesn’t know what to do with itself when they’re not a threat.
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“China is not exporting anything other than cheap products.”
Heh.
Don’t forget it’s main export: it’s people. I’m beginning to lose count of the number of unexpected Chinese enclaves I see in the most unlikely places.
Telling was my trip to Sydney in the 2010s. Our flight was one of seven arriving. The other six were from China. For a mile from the airport, huge buildings were being built. The promotional billboards were all in… Chinese/Mandarin/Nectarine, whatever their language is called.
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Orange Frog: You beat me to it. China doesn’t need to invade militarily – it can accomplish its goals much more easily via massive emigration and – due to the regrettably common problem of yellow fever – sexual subornment. There are lot more people with ‘dual loyalty’ than just the double-passport holders in congress. And, as you note, they have settled massively in Australia. Over a million in Canada. Millions in the US. Close to half a million in Italy.
Good to hear from you, by the way. Did you know that, per a survey, the ‘brits’ want more immigrant doctors in the NHS?
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I wonder which “Brits” they were?!
I hope You and Yours are well. God bless.
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The Australians also went full Chinese tyranny during the Wuhan Holocough. It wasn’t a coincidence.
I would posit that China exports a system that involves a one party state, mass censorship, with a quasi-free market to pay for it all.
China is the flowering of a mature fascist dictatorship.
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“I would posit that China exports a system that involves a one party state, mass censorship, with a quasi-free market to pay for it all.”
Possibly the ideology Mr. Z Man is looking for, above?
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“I would posit that China exports a system that involves a one party state, mass censorship, with a quasi-free market to pay for it all.”
So the United States? China wouldn’t be where it is without Nixon going over and “opening” it to the west. Remember the early 2000’s when .gov would pound the table about China’s currency and how it wasn’t worth enough vs the dollar and they were going to do something? What did they ever do about that? Hell i remember rumors in the 90’s via the clintons and china. China and the united states are mirrors of each other at this point.
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Chinese, or any other diversity will achieve the (possible) goal of breaking down of the institutions… making sure that there is nothing that binds communities or values. In the chaos, perhaps they will offer “more” with some serious and necessary compromise, personal and societal.
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Chaos and Control, you say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tITsnaZdcso
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I kept thinking about “Get Smart” too. Maybe those show writers were really aware and trying to tell us something.
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I wrote this post under the cone of silence, just to be safe.
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There are points in history where the historian simply throws up his hands in despair. Look at Europe from about 1890 to 1913, and you’re forced to confront the idea that they had a death wish. A thesis like that violates all the canons of scholarship, but… there it is. Fully acknowledging the mechanical nature of interlocking alliances, and making all due allowance for hindsight and confirmation bias, nothing other than “they had a death wish” really brings home the baffling stupidity of it all. These were serious, intelligent, well educated men — Kaiser Wilhelm II was the dumbest of them by a long shot, but he’s Einstein compared to all the clowns in DC put together — and yet, that’s what they did.
Same thing now. The Western elite have all joined a suicide cult. You can never prove it with the historian’s tools, and it’s too sensationalistic to believe, and yet… there it is. Nothing else really makes sense.
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“You can never prove it with the historian’s tools, and it’s too sensationalistic to believe, and yet… there it is. Nothing else really makes sense.”
It is a great shame that many historians do indeed wish to make things far more complicated than they actually are. But then again, this is a hallmark of academia: anything but the most likely and obvious explanation.
It is a doubly great shame that historians of this day and age don’t even seem to use the tools they have at their disposal. I’m reading George H. Stein’s excellent The Waffen SS: Hitler’s Elite Guard at Ware, and this fellow does appear to have produced a very well thought-out book. He had paid considerable attention to primary sources, and most importantly, avoids hysteria and projection of current day modes of thinking onto the Germans.
Perhaps the biggest mystery is even beginning to fathom how a person from one-hundred years ago actually thought, let alone a person from one-thousand years ago. Entire histories of peoples of the world will never be understood or reported upon in a fair way, because despite (in some cases) much physical evidence, ultimately: it is incredibly hard to know how people of a different race and time thought. All this is not to say that it isn’t worth trying, but rather that proper history is probably as intellectually taxing as Real Science.
I should note that Stein’s excellent book, which I mention above, I believe was first published in the early-sixties; so I guess that’s one key difference compared to modern history books now. I was bought a popular history book about a county in England (published 2021)… the author spent his preface decrying old fashioned racism in this county, and grovelling. Ridiculous.
I have no problems with racial nor ethnic beefs being documented and analysed, but the sentimental tone of “modern history” is cretinous, anti-white and shameful to watch.
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> Same thing now. The Western elite have all joined a suicide cult. You can never prove it with the historian’s tools, and it’s too sensationalistic to believe, and yet… there it is.
People like to state the rise of mustache man was due to mass psychosis of the population. However, if one looks at the happenings in the country and their existential threats, their reasons for elevating him was the pinnacle or reason compared to our current leaders.
The internet age and being a sole world power has created clueless zombies embedded in simulacrum. With natural selection pressures not existing anymore, the society that rises out of the ashes needs to figure out how to enforce deprivation and survival to keep an elite strong.
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They say that about the Bad Mustache Man, but that’s far more a function of modern neurosis than historical fact. Historically speaking, the Mustache Man’s rise isn’t even all that remarkable. It took some luck, and some big swinging brass ones, but so do most things of that nature (in the rise of any historical figure, if it isn’t a combo of “big brass ones” and “dumb luck,” it’s only because it’s ALL dumb luck). The Bolshevik Revolution was orders of magnitude more improbable.
But saying “Mustache Man’s rise is easily explicable” entails that Mustache Man actually had a case, or that lots of people — good, decent, educated people — had good reasons to think so. Which in turn entails looking at Mustache Man as an actual leader, and not the avatar of pure evil, so you know nobody’s going to do it.
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I have read most of the Flashman books and his, Flash’s, view of history was just that plus added bits of having a bad day, mad at the wife and just plain childishness. I don’t remember all the specifics or what book but I think that pretty well covers it.
I know of no more fun and entertaining introduction to the history of the British empire
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I have zero confidence the middle class will ever do anything. I have more faith in the “diverse” inner city than the decadent middle class. They riot regularly. The riots are always about retarded stuff, but at least they riot. They are not benefiting from the order and have no delusions about their own chances of entering the elite.
Perhaps I’m being naive’, but I believe if the ruling class had targeted children sexually before WW2, libraries and clubs hosting children’s drag events would have burned to the ground and perhaps some lynchings thrown in for good measure. Now the middle class moms show up and make it a party atmosphere, fun for the whole family.
Anyone near, but not in the elite is going to go along even more than the middle class. They don’t care what’s going on, they just want to get into the club.
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Bad mustache man and his crew burned down the very first center in the world for transsexual surgeries. “But, but… that’s not freedom!”
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I agree with most of your post. I only downvoted because of you comment, “they are not benefitting from the order.” The current order is MASSIVELY propping blacks up. If we had something closer to resembling meritocracy and accountability for actions, blacks would be even worse off than they are now. Not to mention the fact the welfare state that pays an enormous amount of money for huge swaths of them to stay home.
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One – I agree with the sentiment that there is no hope for the middle class. However, I would say that the “native” population is one of the cudgels they wield against the white devil. Imagine, when things actually get really bad, how violent the natives will get. Then, imagine how much the middle class will beg the elites to save them. Actually, this nicely bookends with Z’s post, except I disagree that this will weaken elites. The societal collapse will only INCREASE the subservience most give to the overlords.
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Well it’s kind of screwy though: pretend-elected elites causing chaos so that unelected elites can take over? That’s really not a great master plan, not that it isn’t their “master plan” just that…I guess I wouldn’t place a lot of faith in anyone cooking up such a scheme.
I would argue they already rule (the unelected). I would suggest that they follow the idea of alchemy – to remake society in (their) idealized image, they first have to dissolve it.
I agree with the Greek. Z said that we couldn’t have a crisis like that again. I submit The Co-19 hoax as refutation of that idea.
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There is most definitely something to be said for vigilantism. At bare minimum, it enforces cultural order when the formal rulers abdicate their responsibility for doing so. When white men forfeited their balls, vigilantism disappeared, and the decadent, depraved and hideous “culture” we see currently is the result.
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As Edward G Robinson said in the movie Key Largo in his answer to the question “ what is it you want?” His answer
“more.” Elites always want .. more.
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During his 1978 speech at Harvard’s Commencement exercises, Sohlzhenitzyn made several remarks that ruffled the audience’s feathers (and the chattering class really couldn’t figure out what he really meant). In particular he referred to the West having lost its courage, and that being a marker of decline already well underway.
Now of course, Harvard itself is a joke of the highest order, turning out defective products only suitable for “function” in end stage decline.
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Even today, with the benefit of hindsight, your typical Harvard product would have an impossible time seeing Sohlzhenitzyn’s point. After all, they helped spearhead transgenderism, BLM, and abortion on demand. What is that if not courage? Have you not seen the trust fund babies of Harvard with their fists courageously in the air?
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Not sure if i shared this here before, but i highly recommended ZMAN and everyone else read this:
https://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=4725
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Those relatively few of us who see through the GAE’s Ukraine gambit seem to have a tendency to underestimate or disregard how much popular support there is for the latest iteration of Russia Man Bad. Civnat G. Normiecon is fully on board with the GAE agenda here, as is the totality of the npc left. Looting the treasury for Ukraine is the new patriotic mandate in place of where the cold war and the war on terror used to be.
Everybody has a weakness for at least one of the three of money, sex, and power. So I’ve been told anyway. What I’ve observed about those for whom it’s power, is that there is no such thing as enough. For me it was always sex, I figure that’s why I don’t have any money or power.
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I don’t think the panda bear comparison is fair to the pandas. Pandas just won’t have sex, while the elites redirect their reproductive impulses towards little boys.