Last year I did a show on the concept of civilizationalism, but I thought it was a good idea to revisit the topic now that Trump is back in town. Many of the things Trump has been saying since the election suggest he is headed in this direction, even if he does not think much about the concept. The tides of history are dragging him along toward this new organizational model.
The short definition of civilizationalism is that instead of humanity organized into countries or empires, it will be organized by civilization. Language, culture, history, tradition, and religion are not immutable, but they are not malleable. They evolve over long periods of time, so they feel permanent to us. These are things that resist the best efforts of the ideologues.
The last time I addressed this topic it was in the historical perspective. The show this time is about the nuts and bolts of it. We are seeing the rough contours in the world and even in the behavior of Trump. His desire to annex Greenland and Canada is not much different from Russia reabsorbing Ukraine into the Russian world. Canada and Greenland are part of the American civilization.
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- Intro
- Trump’s Curveballs
- Sphere of Influence
- Clash of Civilizations
- Multipolar World
- America & The New World
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“Canada and Greenland are part of the American civilization.”
Canada, sure, but Greenland? Haven’t listened yet, but cold, humid weather, radar surveillance, SIGINT satellite down links, and some mines are the only things I’ve ever heard as part of “American civilization”; and the civilization part was always military.
Greenland is debatable. But it sure as hell shouldn’t belong to Denmark. I wouldn’t be surprised if all it’s used for by Denmark is to send the EU’s most fanatical “climate scientists” to glaciers with tape measures.
Greenland should be a penal colony.
Greenland has always belonged to Denmark. Wrecking one of Europes oldest nation states is almost woke in it’s shortsighted wickedness
I don’t think grabbing Greenland is wrecking Denmark. Denmark is one of the better EU states in terms of national sovereignty, so I’d hate to make them upset, but we would be relieving them of welfare payments and a whole bunch of useless ice. And we have millions of criminals that Denmark doesn’t have.
Some think its the Europeans fucking shit up for us, and the Obamas and clintons and bushes and so forth are all on that team. Hard to say, but the same people who flooded the Untied states with migrants the past few years were the same people who flooded the EU with migrants during the 2010’s. Time will tell i suppose.
We should offer to take Denmark, too, If only for the women and the functional institutions.
Not being fools, they would almost certainly turn us down.
Ugh. I always just accepted the truism “When all else fails they take you to war.” Here I see exactly how it works. Deportations? Stoping the Ukraine grift? Pardons? DOJ reform? Tariffs ?The wall? All the stuff the rubes voted for? Forget that, let’s invade Greenland! It is all about look here not over there.
Also, there is nothing novel about an Artic strategy to contain Russia and China. It’s been part of the MIC playbook since the start of the Cold War.
Trump’s instincts are right. The Chinese are merely filling a vacuum that the USA left behind as the USA turned its focus to the Levant and the steppes. I read an article about how China invested $2B into Panama to get a project built and my first thought was, we couldn’t invest $3B and do the job ourselves? I find that part to believe. Well, Israel and Ukraine come first. Obama’s much vaunted “pivot to Asia” involved sending military assets into the Pacific, not minding our backyard. As has been said a million times though, this is what happens when… Read more »
No, the U.S. could not build those ports the way the Chinese did. With all the overheads imposed by managerialism, the political interference of special interests and the “10% for the big guy” corruption it would cost 3 times more AND unless it aligns with the economic interests of some oligarch there would be no will to do it. Face it China is an economic powerhouse their trade SURPLUS was 1 trillion $ so they have the capital to spend. Anything the U.S. does requires borrowed money. Chinese are producers, Americans are consumers. I have no idea what’s next but… Read more »
This is a fair point but it speaks to bigger issues with the USA and something that Trump surely knows about, considering unlike most of the people in charge he has actually built stuff in his life. I was reading an article the other day about the California wildfires and in the insurance industry, the “insurance expert” they cited never worked for an insurance company, never priced an insurance policy, he has a degree in political science and worked in liberal activist organizations his entire life. This is the American blob at this point, a bunch of people that do… Read more »
If you want a civilization, you have to be completely intolerant of uncivilized behavior. I hope that is coming, I see signs.
Good podcast. My experience with the talented 10% of black men is not a bad experience for the most part, we could work something out under a civilizational paradym. Men can get in a room most of the time and talk in real life terms and work it out. But the lunatics in HR and the women, and many times its the women, until we deal with how we have unleashed women in spheres they have no business being in we are going to have a hard time getting to a civilizational model in the west. Make motherhood and the… Read more »
HR needs to go back to being ‘Personnel’. I (the hiring manager) will make all the hiring decisions, you will onboard and pay my new hire.
It’s a little bit of a stretch to think Greenland, mainly occupied by Inuit groups is part of American civilization, but Denmark of course is…
My opinion, if we’re going to talk about our civilization, we’re inevitably going to be talking about the same things the Nazis talked about, which were the things we talked about before the Nazis stank up the joint. All of that scary Germanic/Nordic business. Oh no! I’ll be interested to see how that works. Does the issue age out, or do we have to make a distinction and disown them? Personally, I don’t mind owning a very bad wrong turn— like the Russians, I guess. Shit happens, get over it. Again, my opinion, let’s avoid sperging out like they did.… Read more »