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David Wright
Member
2 years ago

Serendipity when I was out for a walk and got Luke’s notification. Will watch later, hope Kevin Michael Grace shows up, a definite match for you Z. Luke’s livestreams are getting better all the time.

Ivar
Member
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

I watched a bit of it. If Luke Ford is the English fellow, I wasn’t impressed. He appeared to be bored and disinterested in what Z had to say. His bouncing around, glancing at the ceiling, turning around, drinking, etc. were disrespectful to his guests.

teepee
Member
Reply to  Ivar
2 years ago

Luke Ford doesn’t sound English. I understand he grew up in Australia.

Issac
Issac
2 years ago

Should be good. If you haven’t been contacted already, consider a chat with Doooovid on his channel. He is the yin to Luke Ford’s yang.

Mr/Mrs Red & Pinky Winker
Mr/Mrs Red & Pinky Winker
2 years ago

Hey Z – I’ve followed you enough to know you’re one uncannily smart dude… don’t have 2.5 hr to listen to all of this now but will check it out… I’ll say, though, when you’re speaking and the “Z” appears on the screen it’s a little like watching a segment of an original Star Trek like when they’ve beamed down to a planet the local authorities are issuing a public message… Hehe – Ahhh… it’s also not entirely unlike The Twilight Zone ep “Black Leather Jackets”

Mr/Mrs Winker
Mr/Mrs Winker
Reply to  Mr/Mrs Red & Pinky Winker
2 years ago

Not meant to be a negative comment. Written in the spirit of humor. Z is a tremendous thinker and content producer and I simply wonder if anything might be more visually appealing for the listener (new listener?) while he speaks. Maybe the signature painting from the website?

Ace Rimmer
Ace Rimmer
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Oh, please do.

Dutch
Dutch
2 years ago

Nice work. I enjoy the give and take of your conversations vs. a monologue. As to the “It’s OK to be white” cards, I suppose what we are going for here is “Its OK to think white” or “Its OK to act white”, because the way we beat the demographic decline is by creating a lot of honorary white people who understand and subscribe to the white way of thinking and living. That is the point that Ecce totally blinded himself to. The “negative definition” of being a black American is important. Being gay, trans or feminist (especially feminist) is… Read more »

Milestone D
Milestone D
2 years ago

Did we just get a brief glimpse of the Z Man at the very beginning of the YT clip ? Time index 0:01-0:02

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Milestone D
2 years ago

Nope. There were four people on the piece, only two were shown.

Issac
Issac
Reply to  Milestone D
2 years ago

The person in question was Dennis Dale, a frequent guest of Luke Ford and sometimes blogger of the subject of local poz in Seattle.

Frip
Member
2 years ago

Holy heebie jeebie who’s this guy popping in at 1:04:30???????????

newrouter
newrouter
2 years ago

I listen for about 2 hours. The faceless blogger(not Zman) who kept kvetching about “demographic change and WE should do sumthing” caused me to hit the X upper right.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Z Man bullied Ecce and I hope Ecce toughens up. When his every sentence contains an apology, he has to become stronger. It goes against my nature to say it, but bullying of the soft is necessary. Our grandfathers knew this.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

He claimed Z cut him off before he could answer a single pointed question. Z did cut him off, twice in fact, after only ten minutes of rambling. This fellow thinks he is going to run for some office or another in a popular election and he can’t get to the point before laying siege to Stalingrad. Although it was an annoying experience it was also very useful in undstanding what we should actually be doing and how to go about it.

Kodos
Kodos
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

What you said to him about Texas political culture squares with things I’ve read from in-the-know people. Another factor: So far, hispanic turnout tends to be low. They may vote 70% Dem, but mostly they don’t vote. I live around a lot of Mexican-Americans myself. Nice people a lot of the time, but they really don’t care that much about politics. This whole “Texas is gonna turn blue!” thing is a big deal for a subset of Alt-Right YouTube personalities.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Kodos
2 years ago

Do you dispute that Texas will turn blue in the next, say, 10 years?

Kodos
Kodos
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Sean Trende specializes in political statistics with a rightward lean. This is from a few years ago, but I don’t think he’s changed his mind.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/07/29/can_dems_flip_texas_arizona_and_georgia_123482.html

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Kodos
2 years ago

Thanks

Kodos
Kodos
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I’m always looking for white pills. We can’t let the leftist narrative of inevitability demoralize us!

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The no patience section was the best part of the show. I felt no sympathy for him because this juvenile need to be right blinds him from his faults.

teepee
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I checked Ecce’s YT channel and dipped into a few bits of vidoes/streams with other people He wasn’t having an especially bad day by his own standards when Z encountered him. Best avoided.

My Comment
Member
2 years ago

“where the boomers inherited a world of order and then set about destroying it, replacing it with a world of disorder and irrationality, without ever explaining why they did it.” Except that the baby boomers did not inherit a world of order. We inherited relatively stable families, true. But we also inherited a Jewish controlled media hellbent on spreading cultural Marxism, a perpetual war machine/industrial complex, a Deep State, the sexual revolution with playboy and the pill, feminism and the immigration act of 1965. The first boomer mass vote was when the voting age dropped to 18 and Nixon, not… Read more »

Tax Slave
Tax Slave
2 years ago

Ecce homo. Emphasis on homo.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Luke Ford is an amazing troll, in spite of himself. Through neurotic persistence, he wormed his way in to the J*wish community, although he is a goy. Now, due to his goyish interest in truth, he spends his time discussing J@wish subversion. But they can’t easily throw him out, because it would lay bare the ethnic nature of the religion.

David Wright
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Luke is a nice guy but broken. He has given enough insight into his past that explains himself. This Jewish conversion is hopefully a stepping stone to something more fulfilling.

On another note, Jim Goad’s interview of Mike Enoch is on Jim’s Group Hug page.

MikeW
MikeW
2 years ago

Holy crap, lose that whiner!

Scullman
Scullman
2 years ago

Good God A-L-M-I-G-H-T-Y!
The mere fact that you didn’t LITERALLY reach out and smack the shit out of this guy at the 1:45:00 ish mark, is a fereakin’ miracle, Z.

This is one of your best efforts IMHO. You’re really good on Fridays alone, but with the Q’s and spontaneous quick answers, even better.

More, please.

Bartleby the Scrivener
Bartleby the Scrivener
2 years ago

I tend to lay low and not comment, but I have to say, Z took that whiny goofball to school. And I don’t even mean it pejoratively. Good job of trying to pry that guys eyes open with a crowbar. That monotonistic drone made me tune out with a half hour left.

The phrase “petulant child” comes to mind.

I’ll finish it off in the next couple of days.

In the meantime, keep up the good work.

L_W
L_W
2 years ago

The solution I propose to the impending racial imbalance is to encourage our white youth to have more sex! (more white babies). But then, that’s my answer for nearly everything 🙂

Joseph Suber
Joseph Suber
2 years ago

+1 for the “We need a Pinochet” moment. +1000 .

Sidvic
Sidvic
Member
2 years ago

I know that the zman is a fan of James Lafond. I highly recommend his interview with the myth of 20th century podcast. I’m hardcore and pretty knowledgeable about our side, but the red pills almost chocked me! Lafond has hit his stride. http://jameslafond.com/article.php?id=10598

Ace Rimmer
Ace Rimmer
2 years ago

translation: “low-number troll” = O.G.

Frip
Member
2 years ago

This conversation affirms that group discussion isn’t optimal for understanding. If anything it furthers misunderstanding. Anyone with such a bizarre conversational demeanor as this Ecce fellow, really shouldn’t be invited to these things. Though it was great for a laugh. “Sorry, my phone is ringing…umm…I’m not going to answer it.” As for aggression, Ecce was actually first to be prickly. He asks Z a pointless question about Ms. Cortez in New York, then cuts Z off with an autistically bitchy, “that’s fine, it doesn’t really matter, the point is…” He threw the shield of decorum aside with that little snip,… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Frip
2 years ago

Sharp analysis Frip. Z won through force of personality, which is what matters most, but not on the intellectual plane. Most people follow the dominant personality but we must be intellectually rigorous. Although I side with Z, I believe Ecce is correct about Texas turning blue and the significance of that change.

Z went up against Enoch, who has at least as much fire power as Z, but Enoch kicked over the table instead of debating Z on the awkward points of the JQ.

Frip
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I can’t find the Z/Enoch talk anywhere. Could you give me a link? Thanks.

Rabbi High Comma
Rabbi High Comma
Reply to  Frip
2 years ago

Its Daily Shoah EP: 295 “Z Paywall Spess” from May 18, 2018. It’s a paywall episode. I listened on youtube when it was new, but I can’t find there now.

Rabbi High Comma
Rabbi High Comma
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Ecce came off as odd and on the spectrum, but no offense Z, you’re not an effective bully. It comes across (IMHO) as cantankerous/”get off of my lawn.”, and a bit contemptuous/sullen. I’m also GenX, and although we do not bear as much responsibility for the current disaster as Boomers, being dismissive of demographic concerns could easily interpreted by Millennials/GenZ as “Whatever, I’ll be dead before South Africa happens.” You’re an especially adaptable White person to be able to live in Baltimore, and doubt most Whites would learn to function as well as you apparently have in that environment. Using… Read more »

Nick
Nick
2 years ago

Good job on Luke’s show. You sniffed out that soy boy with the black pills within seconds. It was hilarious! I think you would do well on the internet blood sports circuit!

Frip
Member
Reply to  Nick
2 years ago

But that’s the thing Nick. Z can’t go full black pill in these discussions because it would be too dark. So his action plan seems vague. He sort of has to stop at “tell your fellow whites to be proud.” When he really wants to say “we need to start hating like motherfuckers.” He can’t go into the violent implications of that either.

Harmonium
Harmonium
2 years ago

“What are you going to do?”

Well, for one you guys are doing a podcast that will raise awareness in other people. Peter Brimelow wrote a book in 1997, which arguably led straight to the Trump presidency, through Ann coulter’s book. I am completely pessimistic, believing that the cause is lost by the way, but I still want to struggle! If you fight defeat is likely, if you do nothing, it’s certain!

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Harmonium
2 years ago

“I am completely pessimistic, believing that the cause is lost by the way” Respect to you, Harmonium.

Brimelow tells a story about courting his first wife in the 1970s, when he explained to her that he was an anti-Communist and that his side was probably going to lose, but he had to do his duty. The punch line is the entirely unexpected collapse of Communism in 1989.

I joined WN in the early 2010s, before the rise of the Alt Right, when there was little hope of success. I joined the losing side out of duty!

Frip
Member
2 years ago

Was in a foul mood yesterday. So browsed through this talk again. Seems I was too critical of Z. Still, the main conflict between Z and Ecce wasn’t enlightening. You had Ecce presenting a perhaps worthy idea weakly, and Z presenting the supposed opposite with force. Both action-plans were necessarily vague. A strong moderator was needed. And a non weirdo combatant. Someday maybe the D-Right will have a seat at professionally conducted mainstream discussions and debates. As entertainment in getting to hear Z extrapolate freely, it was cool.