Anyone who has been through a breakup, whether it was a personal or professional relationship, can probably think back and recall the moment when it felt like something changed in the relationship. Your mind went from one mode of thinking about the other party to another way of thinking about them. Maybe the change happened on the other side, and you noticed it, but could not quite explain it. Eventually this realization led to a change in how you viewed the relationship.
It is one of those weird things where you go from not thinking about some potential future, like a divorce or a business breakup, to contemplating it and then all of a sudden it feels like an inevitability. People who quit their jobs always quit in their mind before they quit the actual job. There is a period where you can tell they are no longer committed to their work, even though they go about it as usual. That person is going through that shift from one normal to another normal.
Such a thing happened to the American people in the 2020 elections when the results miraculously changed in the late hours. Millions of people went from thinking that such a thing could never happen in America to realizing that it was actually happening, to now accepting it as a part of the new normal. In a way, those people went through a divorce and on the other side was their idea of old America. They are now in an apartment, perhaps dating new America, while old America got the house.
The same sort of thing may be happening with this election. For a long time now, a few weirdos have been predicting a new round of shenanigans. This time the regime’s schemers would keep Trump off the ballot, rather than risk him overcoming the election schemes to win the general. Some even suggested that the GOP would collude with their friends across the aisle to get Trump jammed up legally to the point where the party would have no choice but to disqualify him.
Your typical middle-class white person, the real core of the Trump voting bloc, dismissed these claims, but now they watch as the system slowly wraps itself around Trump like an anaconda. He was just removed from the ballot in Colorado on the grounds that the judges think Hitler is under their beds. The ruling is a blend of bourgeois hysteria and ideological madness. There are cases like this in other states that will surely end the same way.
Spend time on social media and the MAGA crowd is sure that the Supreme Court will knock these cases down. After all, this is still America. The courts removing parties and candidates is something that happens in the third world or Russia. Like the man who still thinks things can be patched up with his wife, these people are not ready to contemplate the reality of the situation. Old America just moved in a black guy, while Trump supporters keep hope alive in the apartment.
As this process rolls along and the walls close in on Trump, the people still lighting candles for old America will slowly reach that inflexion point where they go from one phase to the next phase. Just as they have come to accept mass election fraud as a feature of the “system” they will come to accept that the system is itself a grotesque mockery of self-government. You get to vote for the regime stooge you like, as long as the permanent ruling party approves her.
This transition in the American divorce will depend upon who the regime decides will “win” the Republican nomination. The biggest of big liars are trying to sell the big lie that voters like Nikki Haley. You would think that these people would have learned by now that the big lie strategy ends poorly, but they persist. It is safe to assume that the majority of the people the GOP expects to vote in November despise Haley, so declaring her the winner will be interesting.
Alternatively, the party could “recruit” Glenn Youngkin, the Gomer Pyle-like governor of Virginia who got some positive media last year when he made pleasing noises about the rage heads peddling pornography in the schools. He is Mitt Romney without the magic underwear problem. The regime loves him. The neocons would get to run his foreign policy and his aw-shucks presentation would fool enough old white people to convince the regime it could work.
Regardless of who the party selects to be the figurehead, the people who vote Republican, especially those Trump loyalist, will enter into that phase where they come to terms with that which they thought was impossible. Not only do the Democrats play fast and loose with election laws, but the Republicans coordinate with them to rig their own nominating process. The last holdouts of old America will suddenly have to accept that old America is gone, and divorce is inevitable.
The phase change one experiences in a breakup happens both fast and slow, in that it feels like a switch has been thrown, but then there is a long slow aftermath. Once you realize the relationship cannot be repaired, there is the process of unwinding it, which is often quite ugly. A terrible truth of the human condition is that it feels good to hate, especially when you need someone to blame. White America’s divorce from old America will be as acrimonious and eventful as any divorce.
The difference here is that half the country is not going to pack up and move to another part of town. Instead, the number of people who accept that it is who is in charge is what matters, rather than how they rule, will continue to grow. The amount of noticing we see online is a great indicator of what is happening. There are things on social media that would not have been uttered in private a decade ago. Again, another sign that old America is never coming back.
Predicting the future is a mug’s game, but it is reasonable to think that in the long run 2024 will be thought of as the year when national divorce became real. An idea that kicked around the fringe suddenly entered the mainstream. One side, the people who want to live in orderly societies, will come to accept that there is no living with the people on the other side. Even if it is possible, they do not want to live with people who think this is normal. They want a divorce.
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Maybe uncle Donald actually want that he is kept off ballot and convicted. We presume that Donald want presidency. But if not? Donald never explained what the phrase “drain the swamp” actually means. Maybe it means burning whole Jew house to the ground ?
More likely, The Donald underestimates the mendacity of his enemies and overestimates the integrity of the system.
Trump will not be kept off the ballot. Even if SC sides with the Dems, the Col. GOP will simply move to a caucus system and the decision would be meaningless.
I don’t think that I would believe that. After all, the GOPe is dedicated to keeping their little corporate, two-faced, Uniparty scam rolling, and respecting the voce of their voters has nothing to do with that. Moving to a caucus format would work at cross puposes to their fundamental objective.
I really like the bit where they keep him off the ballot AND disregard write-in ballots.
Now THAT’S democracy done proper.
As for me, I am going to vote for Trump if I have to crawl on broken glass to do it, because F.U.
Civil War 2 is a book written by Thomas Chittum, I believe in 1997. He could see where this empire was headed. He has a checklist of items, about 35 total, that will indicate Civil War is coming. It’s remarkable how many of them have occurred.
The 178 page book is available on google docs. Easy to find, this site won’t allow me to post the link.
Good reminder. I read that book a few years ago. It was quite thought-provoking. I’m thinking it’s time to give it another read.
I would suggest, however, that people actually buy the book rather than reading it for free. As of right now, the book costs only three bucks on Kindle. It’s important to support dissident voices, and buying their books is one small way to do that.
On Kindle. On the enemies marketplace. On digital… ephemereal decaying 1’s and 0’s, and you didn’t even say to ensure you downloaded a non-drm version…
My guess, they are over their skis. All of the many possible outcomes are negative for the subversives. This is an unforced error.
Trump, besieged from all corners, keeps his chin up and is as belligerent as ever. As long as the Donald has supporters, and a mania behind him, he will fight. He will fight on the ocean, on the beaches . . . he will never surrender. *British accent* There is a good chance he will win, too. It has been commented on that the legal system in America is fundamentally fair. As long as this remains the case, Trump should be able to beat back the litigious assaults on his person and remain a free agent in the Presidential races.… Read more »
You are back with your self promotion!
Imagine a divorce where your ex stays in your house, gains ownership of all your bank accounts and possessions, and invites three Mexicans to live in the house rent free. You have no legal rights to anything, including a job or income. Every night at 6pm, and every other quarter hour during the day, your ex gets in your face to tell you you’re a loser who really should just die because she, and the world, would be a better place.
That’s what the American divorce will look like.
What you describe has been a thriving industry in America for decades. Chiefly via the civil and criminal courts, and pozzed LE.
It’s just gonna keep expanding until either it is stopped, or the host expires.
Left out the part where she picks needless fights with all the neighbors to try and goad them to burn the house down with both of you in it because she hates you that much.
Now that’s funny right there…
That’s not the American divorce; that’s the current marriage.
“Things that went up 300 points in the last 24 hours”
“What is regime awareness, Alex?”
If POTUS doesn’t reverse this cockeyed ruling, then the national divorce gears up into a really ugly phase in 2024. Branding Trump as an insurrectionist means that he will end his days in an orange jumpsuit. Joseph Normal may come off his couch. I hope so but I’m not holding my breath. I kind of take it as a given however that POTUS will reverse the ruling, because don’t they understand the implications? If they refuse to take the case, then Joseph and Josephine Normal will be just as pissed at the cowardice of our so-called leaders. A voters’ strike… Read more »
I think you mean SCOTUS.
Not to be confused with SCROTUS…
Someone’s been looking ahead at the Marvel movie planning timeline for the new superheroes.
“After being teabagged by a radioactive gay man, the mild-mannered Herman Festicle wakes up from his hangover to find he has strange new powers. Now he uses those powers to fight for social justice under his secret identity: SCROTUS!”
ROFL!
$^&*R$#$%^
I confused them once and thereafter could hit the castrato notes in glee club. Currently transitioning … to a Mars Bar. Because I’m yummy.
j/k
laugh, damn you, laugh..
Yes, SCOTUS, thank you Presbyter. Not the other thing, man! Hey you know what I mean!
Brilliant analogy.
I don’t believe we are necessarily heading for divorce, but rather a Third World two-tier model as we’re seeing emerge in California: educated, rich White/Jewish/Asian elite versus a mass of low-IQ Hispanic peasants. The poor Blacks and Whites either get absorbed into La Raza or shunted out into the tumbleweed wilderness of places like Victorville.
I’m not sure that works at scale, and indeed the only reason it even works in California is the state is awash in ill-gotten imperial gains.
National divorce is just the appetizer. Yes, it checks the boxes of being somewhat civilized and orderly, but its really just a rich man’s luxury in which the participants divvy up assets and life goes on, with perhaps a little more misery than usual. When hardship consists of downgrading from a late model mega SUV to a 10 year old Volvo, you’ve still got a long way to fall. Most Americans are still wedded to “muddle through” as the worst case scenario. But the models say otherwise. The rot that has been infesting every aspect of our cultural environment has… Read more »
The only way you are going to survive is by being Tribal…Tribe or Die White Man…
Excellent post and analogy. I make no predictions – I don’t think and react like most people so I cannot begin to understand their thought processes. Given that I’m old, my political journey goes back many years. My initial social conditioning changed gradually during college. The change accelerated during my initial years overseas, and my political shift from the shitlib I was raised as to conservative repuke began then as well. My conservatard phase lasted from about 1983 until about 2004. When not busy with first my overseas job and then with raising a family, I noted my changing environment… Read more »
All I can say Sister is I wish you were a part of my Community because your one of the good ones…
Lineman: Many thanks, Sir. It is my sincere hope I at least get to meet you face to face one of these days.
Echo Lineman.The bots and propagandists are out in force today but almost everybody else here feels likewise. You’re appreciated very much.
DaBears: Thank you so much for the lovely compliment.
Amen 3G – While I’m younger than you are at 47, my journey started towards the end of my college career. It all started with race for me, and I realized that co-existing was next to impossible. I was still a civ-nat/conservatard until about 2008. Once Obama got elected and I saw the shift in culture I knew it was over. I used to wave my flags and love my “country”. Now I despise it with the intensity of a 1000 suns. I love my people, but I hate my nation. I wish nothing but the destruction of these “United… Read more »
You’re slightly more cynical than me. I held out a very faint hope that the Trump administration might be able to pump some faint life into the system. It was a fools dream (I even knew at the time) but really it was the very last chance to do something. Like I said, I was realistic though, thinking of other past attempted governmental redemption efforts, I knew Trump would have to be a mastermind making every right move to navigate the minefield that lay before him, so my only hope was that it happened accidentally. It was a hope at… Read more »
Stealing a line from Mr Wilder…
Hope is a rope that keeps you tied in knots…
Unfortunately, I doubt it, Evil. Assuming Trump arrives safely at the Oval Office in Jan 2025 – a massive “if” – it’s very unlikely that he a) has the political smarts to sort out the massive problems facing us, or that b) if he does, that he will be allowed to use them. There is no internal political solution to what ails us. The whole system has to collapse before anything worthwhile can be built to replace it.
My two picks for the date of the end of the USA are:
1) The FED is established
2) The 2020 massive vote rigging.
Btw, related to all of this, Steve Sailer has a hilariously stupid take on Trump getting taken off the ballot by the Colorado Supreme Court. Sailer believes that it’s a 3D chess move by the democrats to gain sympathy for Trump in the GOP base so that he wins the nomination because, according to Sailer, Trump is the least likely of the GOP candidates to beat Biden.
I’m dead serious. That’s Sailer’s take on this. It’s sad to watch a guy fall so far.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/colorado-court-saves-democracy-from-banning-frontrunner-from-ballot/
Sounds like Steve has sailed into the Gorge of Eternal Stupidity.
To be fair, it isn’t unprecedented for them to promote Trump. And I happen to agree that Haley has a better chance of beating Biden than Trump does. For a lot of reasons. Not that I’m agreeing with Mr. Sailer on the particulars.
I just don’t think I can work up to be part of any discussion concerning who can “beat” an ancient, dementia-addled child molester. I mean, if we have to sacrifice our principles to beat that then what’s the friggin’ point? (i.e.: “My candidate is slightly less of a child molester!!”)
I feel sure my comment is misinterpreted as pro Haley. If we were talking about what I wanted, none of these candidates would be on the ballot and there might not be a ballot at all. I’m just talking about what I think is likely to happen.
Of course Haley can beat Biden. Biden won’t be the candidate, of course, but, yes, Haley can win. Remember how you CARED if Romney beat Obama? If McCain beat Obama? If the Bushling beat Kerry? If he beat Algore? What would have really been different? All over the “free world”, large swaths of the voting age population are outside the media defined “political spectrum”. A race where both candidates are acceptable to the “donor class” is a meaningless race. When Haley runs against Newsom in November 2024 as Trump rots in ADX Florence, maybe 60% of the voting age population… Read more »
I do not see Haley beating Biden. Too many of the GOP’s base are MAGA, and they would see voting for Haley as treason to Trump. Another fair chunk are DR and see Haley as the Zio shill she is, even worse than Trump (if that’s possible). They will just sit it out, and with margins as thin as they are, the Dems might not even have to cheat, much.
Agree. As loyal as the MAGA base is the Never Trumpers & Uniparty will vote Dem before voting for Trump. Similarly, MAGA supporters will absolutely sit out rather than support another Uniparty traitor. The only viable path I see for Trump is in a 4-way race w RFK siphoning votes from everybody but him. Highly unlikely but it would at least be entertaining.
DeSantis said the same. It’s today’s official line for repulsive nerds. They’ll believe anything “clever.”
This is the comment I just left over there. To wit:
A lot of people still have apparently not learned the Tao of Steve.
This is exactly who he is. He is neither an intellectual, nor hardworking, nor deep. He was not cut out to be anything more in life than a goofy, jock-sniffing sports beat reporter. Everything he has ever written about “HBD” is just the sports beat, adapted for a more spergy audience. There is nothing else here.
Doesn’t anyone understand that yet?
How long have you been reading Sailer? I’ve read his work for over twenty years and something changed just a few years ago, and he wasn’t always as you’ve described. Certainly not a deep intellectual, but not merely a “goofy, jock-sniffing sports beat reporter” either.
There’s also been a drastic change with Stefan Molyneux. He went from videos about race differences and announcing that he’s now an ethno-nationalist just a few years ago, to his current content, which is Dr. Phil-tier.
Did someone have a talk with these guys?
I agree. Something changed in Sailer a few years back. He went full Cloud People.
He’s always been a system guy. I think that Trump and the change from discussing how to reform the system to wanting to abandon or overthrow it was a bridge too far for Sailer.
He doesn’t seem to like the Dirt People getting a bit uppity and has more and more shown his dislike of them.
For the sake of the long term stability of the reign of the Cloud People, they should have adopted a few of Steve’s suggestions. For example, allow Steve’s IQ charts to soften the “different racial outcomes demonstrate racism” court mandates. Instead, require the plaintiffs to demonstrate racial animus. This would have kept more competent whites invested in the reign of the Cloud People and they still could have pushed anti-whiteness through their media/academic hegemony. That they feel so compelled to suppress the truths that Steve has been helpfully showing to them makes me think that they hate us beyond the… Read more »
In Stefan’s case, I think he moved from anti-Christian, anti-FOO largely based on intellectual honesty — reality consistently failed to conform to the predictions his theories made. For example, those raised in a Christian home didn’t turn out to be as screwed up on average as those from an atheist home.
I stopped following Stefan a year or two into his “The Truth Behind” stage. Not for any reason other than life just got too busy. He went through a race stage? Was there a reason he left it other than demonetization?
Sailer changed with Covid. He always prided himself on being a numbers guy but was no longer interested in bad numbers with the exception of black crime. He should have had a field day with the bogus Covid numbers and the 2020 election fraud but completely bought into the Covid hysteria and had no interest in the statistical improbabilities surrounding the 2020 election.
Sailer went completely nuts over COVID. I used to read him occasionally, but once COVID hit he started posting an endless stream of hysterical articles about how it was going to kill us all. He all but ruined the VDare site, because at one point all he did was spam that site with scores of articles about COVID everyday to the point that you couldn’t even find anything there other than his rantings. To this day, I seldom bother to surf over to that site.
How long have I read Sailer? Well, I’ve never been an avid reader of Sailer in the sense that I considered him someone worth learning from. I’ve been vaguely aware of him ever since about 2005, but I didn’t start commenting on his blog until 2015, and then only because the older, more sophisticated Traditional Right blogs from the early days of the internet had by that time all closed down or changed ownership. It was quite sad, really. Even a “mainstream” site like First Things used to have edgier, more sophisticated material in its comments than Unz Review has… Read more »
I’d say that it’s more that Sailer identifies with the Cloud People. He’s always considered himself part of the punditry class, albeit as the one who’s name shall never be mentioned. Those are “his” people. He’s an intellectual snob and absolutely doesn’t want to be associated with the Dirt People, which is which he hates Trump, went all-in on Covid and loves Ukraine. Many in his audience thought that because he recognized racial differences that he might be sympathetic to whites. That’s not the case. He’s sympathetic to his beloved colorblind civic nationalism and, correctly, views the anti-white agenda bad… Read more »
I remember his excellent film reviews in the old American Conservative. I think he still wants to be included in the cineophile class (he also lives in Industry town North Hollywood CA).
I became disillusioned with Sailer a couple years ago when he dismissed the idea of a secession or separation out of hand. It’s not necessarily that he had to support it, it was not worth discussing.
Just for fun, I offer a conspiracy theory, only because it is amusing: The elites now want Trump to win because the democrats have proven unreliable in their defense of Israel and Trump will allow Israel to genocide the people of Gaza. Further, the elites sense that they have pushed too much anti-whiteness too fast, and are at risk of triggering more opposition than they would like to face. A Trump win would give the traditional whites a false sense of victory so that they will relax a bit, which will allow the elites to continue to slowly tighten the… Read more »
It is for all these reasons and more that they will get behind Haley. Not that she’s white, but bear with me. They just have to get Trump out of the way first.
Haley can’t beat Trump. The entire premise of the “Republican Primary” is they need someone who finishes a strong second so when the system takes Trump off their hands, they can say with a straight face, “Oh, too bad, here’s Nikki who more people wanted than Chris Christie”.
Whether a “war with China” candidate like Haley can beat Newsom is unlikely, but from the donor perspective, either one would be just perfect.
Before you write Sailer’s analysis off as crazy consider that a lot of people, myself included, just went, overnight, from being lukewarm about Trump to being totally determined to write him in regardless of whether he’s officially on the ballot. This isn’t love of Trump, it’s pure spite. In fact, I can see the Colorado GOP being confronted with a massive Trump write-in victory. Then what do they do? In fact, this whole scheme to remove Trump from the ballots could easily end up with him winning the general election as a write-in. This is the kind of thing that… Read more »
Elections in Colorado are completely rigged, and have been since 2012 when the state passed the deadly combination of automatic “motor voter” registration at the DMV and universal mail-in ballots. Colorado went from hard red in the 1990s to purple in the 2000s, and then immediately turned deep blue after 2012. Tens of thousands of migrants have been shipped to Denver in the past few months. Every single one of them will be automatically registered to vote at the DMV when they apply for a driver license or Colorado ID unless they affirmatively opt out, which almost nobody does. A… Read more »
ANY GOP candidate is unlikely to beat Biden unless voter fraud is fixed. And it hasn’t been.
I am amused when I read people saying that dissolution ain’t happening. But when they end up wiping their collective asses on the worthless green backs that are coming, and they can’t get the part to fix their furnace or car that they are still paying for, much less paying any bill, then we shall see. This country will not go quietly to the ash heap of history like the Sovuet Union did. I suspect it will go out with a bang, right down to that Democrat neighbor you always knew was type who would inform on you.
We can talk about national divorce all we like, but as long as women have rights and can vote in the successor state, none of this will matter and it will keep happening again.
Women now expect to vote their say. Unless SHTF _hard_, I doubt they will relinquish the vote. If we attempt to impose on them, they will almost certainly, collectively refuse to give us babies. Some of us may not wake up in the morning if he rapes his woman. The ranges where I shoot often are filled with more women and their daughters than men.
But long term I believe you are correct. After a virtuous phase, women would regress to where we are now. Leopards changing their spots and all.
Are White men are too weak to take anything away from women — unlike every other race of men?
That seems to be the case.
It is the case. Lord knows, I have pleaded with, shamed, educated, cajoled and threatened men over the past three decades about their sorrowful simpery and cuckdom. They’d rather all of heaven rage and roil, and all of Western Civilization expire, than confront their wives, daughters, moms, and whatnot. There is a remnant recognizing that female empowerment = total ruination of all good things, but only a remnant. The UC and UMC, the dads-with-daughters, the mainstream ‘Christians’ and ‘conservatives’ are intransigent about females. To say nothing of Lefties. Taking power away from princess horrifies and enrages anglo-nation men. That’s what… Read more »
I haven’t looked to see if there’s any backing anecdotes, but someone on Fedi said that’s how it goes: once women get a say in how a society is run it’s a one-way trip into the side of the canyon wall because they’ll only give up their power when there’s left to even “give up”. Even as they’re toted off to some drug-lord’s rape dungeon they’ll exclaim “you’ll pay the next election!”
Early on in the Ukraine war SMO a YouTube journalist was interviewing people about it.
A woman said she didn’t care if Ukraine, Russia, United States, or even China ran Ukraine as long as she got money to help raise her kids…
That’s how they all think fundamentally, and why citizenship has traditionally been and should only be given to those willing to fight for a polity.
The problem isn’t so much women as that literally everything is left up to a vote. There are plenty of stupid white men who vote leftie, too, and if you let them vote you into migrant amnesty, you will sooner or later get migrant amnesty. If you let them vote for women with penises, eventually, that’s what you will get. Until we figure out a way to, for example, limit the feds to Article I Section 8 powers, and ruthlessly destroy anything they’ve done since 1787 which does not fall within those limits, you are going to end up right… Read more »
I don’t think we would have to worry about the White leftie male vote if only White Males voted…Throw in land owning and you would pretty much guarantee a more conservative country…https://medium.com/@ste.kinneyfields/do-you-know-this-graphic-i-made-it-heres-why-f97bcf88408c#.7f996n9xu
At the end of the day, if we’re dead set on still doing democracy, the franchise must be radically curtailed. The specifics of how to do that aren’t terribly important insofar as there are numerous approaches that would produce a sensible and responsible electorate.
This is the way to go about it. There are basically ZERO other institutions that are run like modern liberal democracies. If you want to vote in the shareholder election you need to own the stock. A while ago I made the point that even all those oh-so-pozzed software wankers will not listen to your ideas about their open source project unless you contribute some code. Basically, skin-in-the-game is THE rule everywhere – except in voting in liberal democracy. Once we get people to see that this is the necessary root principle of WCN (whatever comes next) we can work… Read more »
I upvoted because you are correct that it would result in a more conservative country. I just doubt it will be sufficient if we can’t somehow get it out of people’s heads that they have some right to vote whether other people have to eat the bugs.
There’s the oft mentioned quip, what have conservatives managed to conserve? Instead all we get are “The Conservative Case for…” articles.
It’s a small club etc.
I’m not real big on the divorce metaphor since it implies that there once was love. AINO has always, even back in the early days, existed in a kind of detente, ameliorated by distance and wealth. With the advent first of television, and then the internet, the distance has lessened, to the point where people thousands of miles apart can become instantly outraged by the drug overdose death of some two bit hoodlum while in police custody. Psychologically, no distance at all. The wealth hasn’t diminished much, yet. My assessment is that GD 2.0 is not very far in the… Read more »
As I’ve said before, the best thing Trump could do for us is to serve as an orange lamb. A big, beautiful orange lamb, precisely sacrificed for the sins of the Republican Party. With the Pharisees in the GOP establishment shoving in the last knife. While he will not rise on the third day, a new religion will be born..
Think of the memes too! Think of the big beautiful (and sorta blasphemous) memes. The Passion of the Orangeman – coming to a blog near you.
But the divorce occurring in 2024 really does hinge upon the actions of the SC, doesn’t it? And frankly, I don’t know which way it’s going to go. Yes, the court has its fair share of Leftist fanatics who view the law as merely an extension of the Power Structure’s agenda, but as a whole, it has also shown occasional signs of independence. If the SC does strike down banana republic behavior in places like Colorado, the Grillers will putter around the palace for several more years before finally schlepping off to that dingy flat across the railroad tracks.
Foremost, SCOTUS will always act to preserve and empower the institution. Even if an appellant is destroyed. It’s been this way since day one. If it matters, I am an active member of the SCOTUS bar and photo-posed with Justice Thomas when I was sworn-in back in the day. I am somewhat acquainted with the Court.
This exact same court, minus the newest sheboon, refused to deal with any of the fortifying in 2000. That should be a good clue as to how they’ll rule in this case.
It’d be like the Rittenhouse trial: the occasional stick-save in a game where they’re losing by 50 goals. For true redemption everyone involved in such a disgusting move should be sent to the gallows, otherwise they’ll just keep doing it until it works.
I agree. The most sensible, most “conservative” (in the sense of preserving the status quo) thing for the SC to do in smack Colorado down so hard those mountains will become lakes. In the spirit of “pour encourager les autres” this would probably stop all the other states from getting funny ideas too. The election could then be fortified as usual and Brandon or Brandon2 (the re-Brandoning) squeaks in with 81,000,000.5 votes. Do they have the sense and self-control to do this? I have no idea.
We can be certain that some plan or another is afoot to keep Orange off the ballot in 2024. Frankly I’d be disappointed if this Colorado thing is part of that plan. Regardless, if or when the real plan has to get ruled on by the SCOTUS, they will not be pro Orange.
As for what the plan actually is, kind of like the plandemic, we should know it when we see it.
It certainly seems that Z-Man is on a holy crusade and will not rest until he has convinced everyone that “the old America is dead.” This is tilting at windmills, though. I’m not sure who these masses are who think that the old America is still alive. I don’t know any such people, myself. The choice of the divorce metaphor provides a clue about this. The more you read of dissident writings, the more it emerges that the stereotypical member of this tribe is not so much an ex-normiecon but is actually a disillusioned hipster. They are the sort of… Read more »
Unfortunately I know numerous such people who think it’s still 1985
I was disheartened to see how many (really, nearly all) of my acquaintances took the “Putin Man Bad” path in the Ukraine conflict because they still see armed conflict by GAE as enforcing the holy mission of the great and good. I’m pretty well convinced that’s at least part of what Greg Johnson’s blathering on the subject is. It doesn’t make any sense to us because they haven’t yet resigned themselves to the fact that they truly do live in the evil empire.
Jeepers, it’s a good thing you don’t want to delve too deeply into (spergy) psychology.
But maybe that’s me betrayed again by that snarky arrogance!
I’m pretty confident that Intelligent Daesin is a bot.
Is bipolarity indicative of botdom? Serious question. Some of ID’s posts are very good, but others seem to have no relationship whatsoever to the day’s topic. His post today falls into the latter category.
A bot would not make as many clerical errors as I do. My inability to proofread on the fly is, embarrassingly, all too human.
Furthermore, a bot would always stay scrupulously on-topic because—to anticipate the next question—programming a computer to achieve a convincing style of human imperfection is simply not possible.
It’s the Z-Man who has written thousands and thousands of paragraphs all oddly the same size. If anybody is in contention for bot-hood…
General uniformity of length is not necessarily odd nor a sign of a bot.
https://biostat.app.vumc.org/wiki/pub/Main/TatsukiKoyama/BeatlesongsPoster.pdf
Start your own blog and leave a link. Stay away from this one, because we can’t block you, and your walls of sputum take up a whole screen.
” I don’t know any such people, myself.”
– I would venture that you don’t know many.
Get out more. I’m in the deepest of red territory and surrounded by normie civnats and tradcons who believe we’re one election away from saving the Republic. They still watch Hannity and think Ben Shapiro is the bee’s knees.
Disciples of Prager University! :O)
I know she still loves me!
Why are you psychopathologizing people you don’t know, have never even met and know absolutely nothing about?
This post is a prime example of how the dissident right spends most of its time biting its own tail due to the prevalence of the unfortunate combination of deeply held religious faith and Asperger’s syndrome.
Hm. It appears to me that the DR has far more agnostics and athiests than does mainstream conservatism. More than the Left, though? Not sure. Might be pretty close to even.
I’d guess more agnostics on the DR. More militant atheists on the left. Leftists are drawn to the dogmatic certainty of proselytizing atheism
Former Angstheist here(millenial that grew into mid aughts America). If Atheists can believe in trannies, support disease spreading hedonism without at lest an admonishment, and the destruction of children…
I don’t know how to believe in God. I do know i can witness the god of natural law, and I’ll sooner break bread with Pastor Andrews then… whatever the fuck is happening.
See the agnostics, atheists, and Christians can all get along fine right until the Fedora Christian or Fedora Atheist steps in and starts ranting.
Modesty is perhaps the noblest of your many virtues.
But seriously, if you think the host and commentators here are idiots why don’t you just stay away? Z runs a very open commentary policy. People who just come here to dump a lump, with their og so virtuos nature’s, destroy that. Not cool
Hold on a second. I didn’t say anyone here is an idiot, and I do not believe that. The commenters here are obviously quite bright. And I don’t think that our host, Z-Man, is an idiot, He is clearly a high IQ individual. My specific criticism is that Z is a bit “deranged,” and I mean that not as an insult but as a clinical description. He has a tendency to see things backwards, i.e. to give a mental construction priority over a quiddity, or to confuse which things are constructions and which are quiddities. This is pretty evident in… Read more »
He has annointed himself intelligent, noble and aristocratic. Aristocrats and noblemen don’t go around putting on airs and insulting people the way you do. I think you have pompous ass confused with Nobleman.
Man, you are really, really full of yourself.
This Trump ploy is not what meets the eye. https://rumble.com/v427job-breaking-colorado-supreme-court-bars-trump-from-ballot-dont-fall-for-the-ps.html In short, the Co. Supreme Court simultaneously *stayed* their own decision until Jan 4, the day before the Co. election authorities have to settle who may be on their ballot. The decision also says if Trump appeals to SCOTUS prior to Jan 4, the stay remains in place unless SCOTUS says otherwise. In other words, the decision has no effect on the state primary ballot if Trump appeals. (If he doesn’t appeal, presumably the stay lapses.) Assuming BOM appeals, an obvious given, why did the Co. Supreme Court do something… Read more »
I think a more plausible take is it gives the USSC the option to bail and blame it on standing, which is all too common. Since the decision is stayed, no one has been harmed, so there is no justicible case of controversy. Refer back to suits challenging the courts and executives in the states who “rewrote” mail-in ballot laws. Before the election, they were all dismissed for lack of standing — they could point to exactly no one whose rights had been infringed, since the election had not happened. And afterwards, the cases were thrown out because the courts… Read more »
This seems more right to me. Knowing this decision was coming—it was set up a while back by that other Colorado ruling (not precedential/controlling but a rhetorical/signal ruling, for publicity and history) that Trump, though innocent of whatever the accusation was in that case, committed insurrection—the regime has been firing warning shots increasingly close to Thomas, symbol of pre-2020 law. The recently adopted SC “ethics rules” exist solely to remove him if he won’t recuse himself. As a practical matter the regime doesn’t need him gone. It’s already been demonstrated that on all matters electoral, he’s outvoted. But he has… Read more »
. . . like the Glorious Lightbringer hisselfs! (Pay no attention to that Subud behind the curtain.)
Personal life
Griswold lives in Louisville, Colorado.[1] Griswold is Jewish.[16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena_Griswold
(((She))) came out of the Obama administration “voter rights” organization. A committed Marxist to the core.
There is an exception to this jurisdictional conundrum – referred to as an error capable of repetition but evading review. But you have to have the balls/will to use that exception.
That’s on the right track. The performative anti-Trump lawfare is as ever more about signaling their bonafides than about fixing the system to any path. In Weimerica stray-voltage feints beat a frontal attack every time. It figures, this lot came up through elite schools and various corporate nurseries which exist to train them not to resolve anything while practicing full-spectrum manipulation of rivals. We are human shields.
Just as the Negro’s demand access to the White mans labor, inventions, businesses, women, children and productivity since they are quite sure that they as a group could never duplicate our success, the left will always demand access to the political right (including the DR) for the same reasons. Everything they do fails, then they sit back and demand that we fix it, because no one wants to live in a shithole, right? Ayn Rand was correct in that there are people who are just naturally better than others. Not in the “loved by God sense” but in the universalist… Read more »
Welsh Dragon:
Ha!
My father used to say (and I continue to say it for him):
“God created some people ‘more equal’ than others.”
I live that quote, bc those who know what it means (some are Jsut born wirh more grey matter + common sense), just know.
So the American people will go through what I went through in 2004.
I always thought they would just jam Trump up in the usual ways, politically. This worked for them very well from 2016-2020. I never thought they would be willing to shatter the illusion of “our democracy” with trumped up fake criminal charges and BS ballot lawfare attacks. Who knows what’s next. But now that they are so openly corrupt and making no efforts to hide it, marshal law and fema camps are just no longer unthinkable.
Yep. I really think that day arrived when the intelligence services and domestic federal law enforcement conducted a failed coup attempt and no one was charged let alone hanged. Maybe that was too subtle for normie? Regardless, they have moved to straight rule by force. That’s not a successful strategy long term but it will be godawful in the interim.
What’s next is, at some point, an assassination attempt. The Regime has been yelling for years that they will not permit Trump to be president again. They’ve impeached him, twice, rigged one election against him, hurled lawsuits and criminal charges at him and run phony candidates against him. Nothing has yet worked. They’ll attempt to imprison him next, then continue attempting to disqualify him from ballets, and if & when those approaches fail, they’ll call in the spooks in Langley. They’ve been telling us for years who they are. Take them at their word. They will not stop until Trump… Read more »
I.M.
Agree with you.
If Trump gets his block knocked off by Langley or one of their associates, then he will become a martyr and it might Jsut wake up enough Normies to join the rest of us in the DR.
It would be horrific, but if it led to a faster divorce in the medium term, then it will be worth it.
Those of us who indeed take Leftists and the regime at their word, know that they don’t care how Orange Man is blocked from office, Jsut that he is.
Berlin Wall fell without a shot being fired. Maybe the same will happen to the GAE Washington Fagpyre.
Unfortunately for us those old Soviet Bloc countries had much more reasonable populations.
This is the whole, broader question: not who wins in 2024, but how can we sweep the GAE into the trashcan of history without them destroying us all. The last generation of commie leaders weren’t willing to take up the Samson Option. The maniacs in DC are. They are the Bolsheviks of 1917, not those of 1989. They will never, ever give up power willingly.
Civil War II = An existing US state or group of states declare themselves sovereign and no longer subordinate to the US federal government and express a willingness to defend this sovereignty with force if necessary. They stop sending checks to the federal authorities. They strip all federal actors of authority within their territory. There is basically no chance of this happening in the foreseeable future. They are never going to go from the status quo to this state of affairs overnight. You would see many failed attempts at reform first before this was even thinkable. All we’ve seen at… Read more »
They would first have to create their own currency/money, refuse acceptance of federal reserve notes as legal tender, and get some banks on board or create new ones. People will need to be able to earn a living and pay their bills. As 90% + are wagies, and fed income tax is withheld a the source, you’d have to get employers on board to flip the middle finger to the feds and stop withholding. For multi-state employers that is not likely to happen.
There is no way any of this is happening. In fact, I’ll go so far to say that nothing is going to get any better or change for many generations – if ever at all. The only way it happens is if they start putting taking people away for the way they vote, taking their money blatantly, not allowing them to work or watch football. It has to be that severe. Otherwise, fast forward 50 years, and the same type of people as us will be here having the same conversations we have now.
TC – I agree. Highly unlikely it will happen that way. More likely is the slow grind of disintegration of the centralized power and concomitant rise of local power centers. You see fits and sputters of it with sanctuary city declarations for this or that pet issue. Once the centralized authority loses the ability to enforce its edicts, then divorce will happen. But we are a long way from that.
Trump is *not* off the Colorado ballot, and he is not going to be removed from there before the election. You can read the pertinent post at CTH to confirm. That doesn’t mean the anaconda is not coiling – it is – as Zman so succinctly observes.
But the Lawfare headfake certainly has everyone repeating the lie, which no doubt was their goal. This time.
Continue to prepare for the biggest, most deadly solar storm you can imagine. It’s going to change the entire political landscape, for those that survive.
It looks like a warning to Trump.
You beat me to it! This does illustrate how every member and tentacle of the ruling class is freelancing with zeal, smoke machines dialed up to eleven.
This is conservative cope. What it is on the Colorado supreme court is an attempt to pass the buck. While the stay may be ridiculous and an attempt to pass the buck, they still couldn’t help but expose themselves as the evil creatures they are.
The December 14 flare produced an unusually clear star-pattern just above the solar surface. A hexagon.
How very apropos. Make that apropoz!
Can’t believe how I didn’t realise all this before.
In every system, every work-place or institution, the buck stops with somebody. Even on committees, the buck will often stop with somebody with sufficient experience. I’ve no idea how courts work but the buck will stop with somebody there, too. Go high enough up the chain, and someone needs to make a decision.
And it’s very easy to make a decision based on prejudices; and Leftists have prejudices in abundance. So it seems natural that, when they infest every institution, we’ll get ‘Leftist results’.
Picture a judiciary full of what the law schools are producing these days. We can only hope it blows up before then.
Exactly.
Sort of the reverse of the advice I got when, as an 18 year old, I entered the workforce proper:
“If you want to know where you’ll be in this company in 10 years time, look at a guy who’s been there for that long.”
I left a fair few jobs upon applying that maxim. Too many paths led to ‘management’!
Three decades solid of empowered women (practicing feminist jurisprudence) and a scattering of male lib arts grads.
Been pouring into state and fed judgeships the past decade.
Republicans are the husband and Democrats the wife. So the Republicans will have half their stuff stolen by the Democrats, and after the divorce still have to pay alimony and child support, and sleep on a couch in a buddy’s basement.
“They” don’t want a divorce. That would suggest that maybe the wholesale slaughter of 2-3% of the US population during the Civil War was a ghastly mistake, and maybe the South had a point.
No, they want to keep the same outward forms of government to grant legitimacy, even if they have to import and distribute via rail, bus, and airplane 3 MILLION “new citizens” a year to do it.
It’s massive overkill. 20 states have less than 3 million citizens in their whole borders; small amounts would tip the scales forever.
But they’re going to do it anyway.
I’ve always felt and continue to believe that 2020 was the inflection year. A decent chunk of whites – say ~10% or so – lost faith in the system. Covid, BLM and the election were enough to put them over the hump. Probably another 10% to 15% began to question the system. The regime tried to tone things down after 2020. (Anyone notice that BLM and Antifa disappeared.) But they’re so incompetent that flare ups kept occurring, like Afghanistan, Hunter Biden, the prosecution of the J6ers, weird Biden speeches, etc. Basically, it kept the pot simmering. Now you have the… Read more »
I still contest that they are trying to provoke a reaction. They know the monetary system is kaput, they need an excuse to enact martial law and point the finger at anyone but themselves. 2020 was a financial crisis, they know their time is short, that is why it was ok to protest for a loser but not ok to protest for your rights. That is why they are blatant, they were hoping J6 wouldn’t have to be so fake. That real, honest people, would do their work for them. I still think the best course of action is to… Read more »
I hope that the regime throws Trump into jail. That would be the best thing for us.
Well it wouldn’t be the best thing for us but it would be a good thing…The best thing would be if they went whole hog and deleted him…That just might get the couch dwellers to get up but that’s even questionable…
Well, sure, assassinating Trump would be the best for us. I doubt that they’d do that, though they really do hate the guy.
But Trump has (unwittingly) done a lot for our side.
Yea I think they are pretty sure that would upset the apple cart enough that there just might be consequences for them…
To the downvoters, why do you think the media is the way it is? Why do you think Trump’s entire presidency was the way it was? Why do you think he’s been more talked about during Bidens presidency then Biden? They want you to throw the first punch, kinda like lincoln and Fort Sumpter. Lotta people in the North were not down for war until he made them throw that first punch. On a personal note, you’ve probably been thinking about this for, maybe six years at the most. Prob since your hero trump was elected? Some of us were… Read more »
Well Brother the one thing you have to understand is the enemy gets a say on this site so take the down votes with a grain of salt…The one thing I would say to your above comment is the regime wants us to strike out futility so they can crack down more or they want us to sit around doing nothing they damn sure don’t want us to be Building Tribe and getting ready to defend ourselves…
Building our own communities is by far what the TBTB fear the most. It’s what they will fight against to the end because it really would mean the end for them. Their whole system relies on us having no back up, not base on which to fall back. Getting us fired doesn’t do much if we’re hired by a friendly company. Taking our bank doesn’t matter if a friendly bank gives us an account. Etc. And once a few communities get set up and withstand the media and legal storm, people will notice how much better they are and what… Read more »
I agree with you, except for the portion with regards to sitting around and doing nothing. What are you going to do? Who would you even strike? Power and control have been removed so far from your local community who would you even address your grievances to? That is why you’re here now. Here is an experiment for you to try: Take the topics you talk about on the internet and talk about them with normies, at the bar or somewhere in your local area. What do you think the reaction would be? Humanity is a herd animal, they won’t… Read more »
Ahh Brother been doing that in my area for quite some time now and that’s why I have a phone book of people that I can reach out too for a number of different reasons..In my AO I do have someone to address my grievances too because he’s part of my Tribe…I advocate to Build Tribe to others because I want others to have the same chance as I do and of course makes my Tribe be in a better position if there is more Tribes of our guys out there…
Well, there are two ways to look at it:
1. your way, that they are waiting for someone to make a move that justifies their crackdown, so don’t play the game.
2, they will manufacture a move, blame you for it, and crackdown anyway, so might as well do something (might as well do the crime if you’re going to do the time).
“Then, gentlemen,” said Napoleon, “let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him.”
I have to say … this is some of your finest work. Hats off to you, sir.
Having experienced the business end of the divorce-industrial complex, I viscerally related to that comment about believing you can patch things up, not because that’s likely but because the alternative seems so horrible. I know a lot of Normie’s who are in that very state, and I don’t think they have it in them to go through the process to a subsequent, better existence.
Well as we know, the opposite of love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference, when the other party no longer evokes any strong emotional response in you. The fact that your ex still tries to screw money out of you or tries to manipulate or influence your responses indicates that they haven’t really moved on, they just want revenge for some perceived slight. They want you to suffer.
Somewhat tangential, but here’s one of the most interesting analyses I’ve seen of political power and how it changes hand. It claims to explain every kind of political power, from democratic governments, dictatorships and business environments. The theory has the distinction of being extremely simple and not relying on abstractions to argue its case.
Since it’s a universal theory, it’s never really on topic on any given subject, but almost always relevant. I’d love to hear what the Z-panel thinks of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
The guy who produced this used to teach high school physics. One wonders if he ever got this real in talking to them. He usually blathers on about trivial matters like the superiority of hexagons, what makes a good flag, or the origin of the name Tiffany. But in this vid he superbly channeled Machiavelli’s The Prince. It’s as good an explanation as any why Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) is a key statistic of comparative geopolitical analysis. Them that’s got the gold rules.
I’ve watched that a couple times over the years and after mulling it over for a bit the economy of GAE really is closer to some tyrannical resource-based economy, only their resource is printing money (seigniorage as Z says). This clears up some questions perhaps as the economic activity of GAE subjects has little bearing on the wealth generated for the empire
I don’t have anything of note to add, I just wanted to compliment on the quality of your writing these days Z. You do a fantastic job of expressing the ideas of our side in a way that is clear regardless of the intelligence of the reader, and doesn’t set of the “weirdo” alarm for normies. I can send your essays to people teetering on the brink without concern, which I can’t say about some other people I read.
This essay was one of your better ones IMO.
I took myself off the voting rolls before the 2020 election. Does that mean I should be getting alimony payments from the GOP? If so, where should I go to claim them?
I’m still waiting for that reparations check from Native America for when in the 1850’s their tribes tried to genocide my white ancestors by killing and scalping all the soldiers and burning down the fort, and when they hacked to death our womenfolk and babies while burning alive our menfolk after cutting off their danglies and stuffing them in their mouths. Somehow “sorry, and trail of tears” doesn’t cut it/
Were your ancestors in Israel on October 7, 2023? Sure sounds like it.
Great essay Z. You expressed my same feelings about the nation that is my home and the home of my ancestors but now it’s gone and coming to terms with that is difficult.
Problem is, no one wants to talk about or do what’s necessary for what comes next…
“What’s next” is simply “hard work” – which many do not have a stomach for. People dream of hand-to-hand combat with lions and tigers, but shoveling, mud, stacking bricks and keeping the books in real life is too much.
Well that and sacrifice which many find abhorrent…
I’m actually guilty of that lol
To reiterate, as long as stomachs are full and houses are warm, people will accept almost anything. The GAE collapses like a house of cards when neither of those things remain true. Much of the totalitarian impulse driving the latest round of political oppression is in anticipation of when bellies growl and hovels are cold. The crackdown will not work when that day comes, whenever that may be, but there is little else the Regime can do. Wars and terror attacks are now seen widely as fraudulent grifts and the rubes are far more hesitant to rally ’round Ol’ (rainbow)… Read more »
I wish someone would come up with a mock up sticker that said “I VOMITED”.
The problem with this idea is that the Left you describe are the useful idiots of The Regime. On the one hand, the coasts of our nation are massive, extremely rich geographically and open to the world’s two major oceans. Still, the interior of the country does contain vast wealth. The Regime is not going to relinquish this territory. Now, there could be tremendous value in forcing The Regime to exercise hard power on yet another of its foot soldier constituencies. They are already doing so on their indoctrination center administrators. If the wine moms did whine hard enough for… Read more »
That’s a very valid criticism and also a great idea about the memes. I think the Regime has decided, whether it is correct or not, that it could not stop a Left exodus. The only alternative explanation, it would seem, is along the lines of what you suggested–the Regime could hold onto its leftist useful idiots but only at a tremendous cost. “You will celebrate diversity and fly the Confederate flag over your trans pet cemetery” is the type of meme that springs to mind, but how to make that sort of thing not across as a light parody from… Read more »
Amazon sells “I voted Twice!” buttons.
I dust it off and wear it religiously anytime there’s a vote going on.
A not so subtle middle finger of contempt for voting.
When we see conservative whites stop standing for the national anthem, we’ll know we’re really getting somewhere.
GD 2.0 could go a long way in bringing about left wing despair. Hard to say when
I think GD II ends it all, period. I’m thinking of how it might come apart before then. As for sitting out the national anthem, when whites started to opt out of the military was a step down that road.
Then we’ve got a ways to go. As part of one of my jobs, I regularly attend local college sportsball games, and naturally, a high percentage of attendees are Grillers. I haven’t seen a one refuse to stand for the anthem. At most, fewer are placing hand over heart and gazing at yon Stars and Stripes with lachrymose adoration. I guess that’s a start…
I think, or like to think, that peer pressure is playing a big part in that. One doesn’t want to be thought sympathetic to Kaepernick.
No doubt about it. Refusing to demonstrate fealty to AINO would be seen as typical Leftist anti-Americanism rather than rightwing dissidence. And, at bear minimum, you’d receive beaucoup dirty looks, perhaps even some vituperation. Most people don’t want to deal with that.
My girlfriend, who is just about transformed from normiecon to DR (we first met as government immigration lawyers in 2002), and I were talking about this the other day. She’s not a sportsball person and came up with I think the best response to the whole Kaepernick thing-“not my circus, not my problem”. I never got too upset about it beyond always finding Kaepernick loathsome. Sit or stand is an interesting question that I’ve been thinking about-not that I see any sportsball attendance in our near future.
Hand over heart is or the pledge of allegiance, not for the national anthem. Point that out to them next time to score extra MAGA points!
‘The best guess is it is mostly for foreign consumption’
This is why, correct. To maintain the illusion of Good America that, gasp, would never rig an election!
The net is global, yes, but average folks in most other nations consume mainstream U.S. news, i.e. pure propaganda. It’s easier to access and ubiquitous. Certainly, that is the case in my ‘third world’ country. Most of ’em don’t have the time or interest to dig.
“The 2020 election was stolen, after all, not because of fears about conservatards and normie but because the Apparat correctly realized the unhinged Left would blow up if that ol’ debbil Trump remained in office. The trick is to get around the Apparat and figure out how to make the Left stomp off so a peaceful separation becomes possible.” Excellent Post, Jack. This statement I highlighted above is exactly why I wanted a Trump win in 2020. Not because I thought anything could be done to fix this strip mall, but only because I knew it would accelerate the collapse… Read more »
Spot on. I don’t believe that Trump is the man to turn this around – and maybe no man could – but I like him because he drives the Deep State nutters crazy.
“They are now in an apartment, perhaps dating new America, while old America got the house.”
Maybe brand new america is a blow up doll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuz3KXUZj3Y
Sorry if this isn’t serious enough, but its just what popped up in my little brain.
Made in China…..
Will no one think of the children?
Of course, by children I mean the media. When they are exposed and have to subsist on a diet of crow, who will tuck them in and say prayers with them?
I think about the stages of grief. Folks are all along the spectrum. Some have accepted the loss of the republic. Some are angry, Some are still denying it. Where are you?
Moved through to acceptance with the help of places like here. It still hurts, but I can now watch these kind of shenanigans from an emotional distance.
After 2020, I knew intellectually that there was no going back to the good old days.
This is a great post and thread for me too. 2020 was indeed the watershed year, the hat trick of Convid, Floyd riots and election fraud did it for me (plus my mom died right before Convid thank God). I’m well into acceptance and it’s wonderful. BF is coming along nicely-all the AINO flags are gone and he’s moving quickly into acceptance. We saw “Maestro” yesterday, another depiction of what America once produced and was. During one of the magnificent Bernstein symphony sequences, a guy (may have been Israeli) had his phone open-just a reminder of where things are now.
Accepted the inevitability of it a few years ago. It’s long since stopped bothering me. I strive to live like the lillies of the field.
My full acceptance came when the Covid lockdowns were announced. It was perfectly clear in that moment the republic had died. It had happened decades earlier, of course, but that was for me the official pronouncement.
Jack Dodson: “My full acceptance came when the Covid lockdowns were announced.” The Epoch Times published a fascinating piece yesterday, concerning the Chinese biological warfare laboratory, in Fresno California, and the intervention by the Centers for Disease Control. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4204632/posts Apparently the CDC has now adopted the FBI’s modus operandi, and the CDC exists solely to DESTROY evidence of regime misbehavior [on the medical-biological side of things, opposite the FBI destroying evidence on the legalistic side of things]. The Meta-Psychological structures & frameworks which are at work here are absolutely fascinating [and of course utterly nihilistic & psychopathic]. These bureaucrats play… Read more »
Same for me. It was a major flex to keep strip clubs and bars open, while arresting pastors for conducting church services in their parking lots.
Unironically telling my aged parents to keep their passports up to date.
What stage is that?
Its all been dead to me since 2008. Our system is based on “discovering price”. If they are willing to lie about price, which is what they do when they QE and 0% rates for a decade, what aren’t they willing to lie about?
Quite right, Mr. House.
The old 2008 financial balls-up seems to be a distant memory now… but real and bad things happened because of it. At scale.
Then people just seemed to ‘forget’. But it felt to me at the time (even though I still voted and was in no-way enlightened) that something profoundly Evil had happened. And that the fix seemed to be more Evil, but done in an obfuscated way (i.e., more covert money-meddling).
Where am I? I accepted that it wasn’t my country over ten years ago and have been putting my efforts into building a parallel system with the end goal of a new country…As more Whites wake up to the fact that they live in a system that hates them and wants them dead then more will come to the realization that if they want to secure their future and that of their children’s they will have to sacrifice for it…
I haven’t heard much of anything from a “cheaper to keep her” faction who prefer to just go on as things are, grumbling about the burning bed but reluctant to part ways, knowing how ugly a parting would be. I’ve seen more than a few such real-life unions in my time, generally among the older generations for whom divorce was still culturally taboo. Neither party is happy, but neither are they in hot conflict in their uneasy truce. I don’t suppose anyone seriously thinks we can kiss and make up, left and right, liberal and conservative, BIPOC and White. Too… Read more »
Maybe it is a type of “cheaper to keep her” but I have noticed a growing portion of checking out of the relationship. Military recruiting numbers seem to support this.
“I’ve seen more than a few such real-life unions in my time, generally among the older generations for whom divorce was still culturally taboo.” So very true. My paternal grandparents–both born ca. 1900–were locked into a highly unpleasant marriage, but for people of their generation divorce was unthinkable. So, rather than break the taboo, grandpa laid down on his bed one afternoon in early January of 1976, took his pistol and availed himself of the 45 caliber escape clause. I wonder if many Grillers, rather than turn traitor against the nation that betrayed them, will instead seek refuge in the… Read more »
Two secession posts in a row! Uncharacteristic. I think Zman underestimates how much normal people disliked the J6 riot. It was embarrassing to be a Trump voter when that happened, and I think most people see the “political prisoners” as lawbreakers who got harsh but predictable treatment.
So you think most people see the “political prisoners” as lawbreakers who got harsh but predictable treatment? Good God you are blind. At least show the honor of Oedipus and do the right thing.
Yeah, man. You think people with egineering jobs and kids in grade school really identified with shirtless dudes vandalizing the capitol building? They did not.
>people with engineering jobs
>people with kids in grade school
What a mundane argument you present. Women with kids in grade school do OnlyFans for extra cash, and people with engineering jobs commit crimes, have horrible characters, and beat their kids in grade school when they find out their wife is doing OnlyFans.
What about people call pants “slacks?” Or who park in handicapped spaces without a tag? Or older people who were lefthanded by nature, but forced by nuns to write with their right hand? People who travel to natural parks — what are their thoughts?
Men with careers and women with families are our target demographic, dude. They’re who we want. How did J6 bring more of them closer to our way of thinking?
A true dissident calls them trousers!
You sound like a spergy engineer. Everything is black and white in your brain. No grey areas.
Good luck to you and your prgreny.
Wrong. Some of us actually watched the released video. You apparently only watch the 6 minute loop played consistently by CNN. A great majority of the indicted people did noting but walk around escorted by the Capital Police. The only fatality caused by the event was a well dressed, white veteran female named Ashley Babbitt who was murdered in cold blood, ON VIDEO, by a cowardly ni**er who then went on TV bragging about his heroism.
And later received a standing ovation from Congress. Far beyond disgusting.
As long as their kids did, that’s the important thing.
Never waste any psychological energy on quarreling with a JIDF agent [who, at this point, is very likely to be nothing more than an AI trollbot]. If we are to win this thang [whatever winning will amount to in the smoldering ruins of KlownWorld], if we are to win this thang, then it’s of existential importance that we adopt a very rigid & intractable Conservation of Psychological Energy as our Ethos. We don’t have any surplus energy to be wasted on quarrelling with M0$$@d trollbots. [Primarily because we, unlike the M0$$@d, lack access to the infinite flow of fiat shekels… Read more »
Speaking of A.I. Trollbots, the breaking news today is that the database used to train many of the commercial A.I.s, such Google’s A.I., contained THOUSANDS OF IMAGES OF CH!LD PR0N!!!!!
https://www.404media.co/laion-datasets-removed-stanford-csam-child-abuse/
Gee, I wonder (((who))) was responsible for that little “accident”?
I see some dislikes, but no comments yet. If anyone can explain how costumed goofballs behaving like BLM was a big win for our team, I’d love to hear it.
“Our” team?
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Yes. How did the J6 riot help Team White People?
I was under the impression that the sheer hysteria (i.e., calling the thing ‘The Insurrection’) was something that most Normal individuals might realise was simply too much. I mean, I’m an Englishman, and I knew very little about the event. But given past knowledge of Leftist infiltration, it was clear that the ‘Insurrection’ was a big put-on. In this way, it perhaps could have brought many more whites over this way. Then again, they’d need to suspect something was up in the first instance. Perhaps your experiences are different? Surely, the farce of the thing must have prodded some whites… Read more »
Yep. Frank’s “team” is just he himself busy with onanism.
Probably not worth the bytes to respond, but if you believe the J6ers behaved like BLM, there is no hope for you. If only they did, Biden would be in prison or J6 feet under.
I appreciate your wanting to stir the pudding but come off it.
Frank,
Most of the people who were at the J6 protest were normal people who knew the election was stolen and were trying to save the country. Most of us on this side knew they were ill advised to go there and most of us knew they were going to be set up. That does not negate their right to protest.
The majority of the destructive people there were obviously operatives for the government or BLM/Antifa or were LEOs themselves. That is quite obvious now.
I agree they had a right to protest, and I think most of them were good-hearted people. I’m not sold on the whole thing being a set-up, but I’m open to being shown otherwise.
The main thing I want to get across is that, outside of our websites and podcasts, the J6 riot is not viewed very sympathetically. I think we should be realistic about the level of acceptance our viewpoints have in the wider world.
The J6 goofballs did dumb stuff. This was not a win.
Then the Regime got a case of paranoid hysteria about it and went after the dummies with an all-out-of-proportion savage disregard of the principles of constitutional law and due process. That response was clear evidence that our government operates like a thinly-disguised dictatorship.
I wouldn’t call it a win, but a lot of chumps were smartened up, and that’s not nothing.
Normal people simply don’t matter as far as change is concerned. They will follow whoever is in charge.
Frank, I’m surprised at how harshly your post was received. I’ll add a bit of anecdotal support to you by noting that immediately after Jan 6, my Trump loving brother was desperate for an explanation that did not include insurrection. He first grasped onto reports that the people who were violent were “far right” infiltrators. (My response: “Hey! Those are my friends you’re talking about!”) Later, as the evidence of a massive FBI presence emerged, he settled on that. In any case, many conservatives are entirely unwilling to be associated with those who raise the black flag of rebellion. They… Read more »
Sup dude! You’re always on here! I can see why people like parts of J6. I personally really liked seeing all the “peaceful protest” supporters in Congress hiding under their chairs, certain the end was near. That was very funny. I just think it did more harm to the brand than people are willing to admit. Our views aren’t mainstream and we should be realistic about that.
As I have mentioned here before, I have a cousin in academia who falls into that camp, what Z has labeled the “Gracious losers”. To him, anything that is not genteel must be recoiled from and exiled immediately! Try to explain to him how his preferred course of action has gotten us nowhere and that a change of game plan is in order and he’ll howl with protest! He’s also the type of person who’ll trot out the term “expert” at the drop of a dime. When I have the audacity to mention to him the fact that a majority… Read more »
I would add that those conservatives are basically worthless since they won’t do anything except vote. King of the Hill nailed this mindset perfectly with Hank’s slavish devotion to his Lyndon Johnson parody boss Buck Strickland.
What I remember of the Jan 6 fiasco was the infiltration of government agents in the crowd, the scenes of the Capitol guards on the other side of the building waving the people in, the abject passivity of those inside strolling about (exception noted with Ashli Babbitt), and the treatment of those arrested in the incident, which was vindictive if not plainly unconstitutional. That there is a large segment of the populous that is still in thrall to the MSM/Leftist narrative only means that there are stupid, gullible, and non-thinking people in this country in large numbers. It does not… Read more »
At least 20 major cities would have burned to the ground if, instead of “the counting of votes” stopped at 12 am in 6 states only to suddenly discover that Biden actually won every single one of those states they just counted them like normal times and Trump won.
Democrats were quite open about it.
That’s called a “color Revolution.” Locked, cocked, and ready to roll. It’s not “organic”, either.
You need to read what @Frank wrote, not what you think he wrote. People can only run with the facts they have. They’ve been told so many times that J6 was a “riot” or an “insurrection” that they’ve come to accept it. Saw it in my own family. (Not my wife and kids. If anything, they are more “based” than I am. I’m talking my siblings and my dad.) You do realize that’s why it was so important to clamp down on people whose videos and Tweets were making the point that J6 was all a nothingburger or even that… Read more »
“I think Zman underestimates how much normal people disliked the J6 riot.”
Of course they did not like it. In much the same way that Normal people would not vote for the BNP. They’re normal. In The System fully. They have zero capacity to recognise Evil, on the whole; and frankly, many don’t wish to do so.
Normality, niceness or whatever won’t save a man’s soul.
Yeah, I agree that most people want to be in the moral consensus and don’t think too much about it.
So what we want is a society of nice, normal people who see our moral claims as the consensus view. I think J6 took us further away from that, not closer.
@Frank
FED FED FED FED FED FED FED!
It’s because conservatism is a state of mind. It’s why MAGA took to the courts after witnessing all the shenanigans surrounding the 2020 presidential election. It’s why Trump and his supporters (who constitute the overwhelming majority of the Republican base), after calling the 2020 results fraudulent, are earnestly contesting the 2024 election. And, yes, it’s why some of them (along with Frank, apparently) are skulking around under the pogroms following the mostly peaceful January 6 “insurrection”. The conservative mind is predisposed to a belief in the system, thinking that it (rather than the system) screwed up. Meanwhile, conservatism’s opponents are… Read more »
My acceptance of the end of the republic also came with my acceptance that most conservatives have unchangeable behavioral proclivities that will ensure they loose.
Conservatives are psychologically unfit to rule, and deserve to be a low-status servant population obeying the commands of their betters.
True enough in the present West. But it’s important to note that in historic terms conservatism has been the default position of the ruling classes. Witness the inability of France’s Ancien Régime to resolve its fiscal imbalances. Our modern crises arise, not from conservatism, but rather out of the liberal drive for gratuitous “reform”. It’s more akin the the ancient Mayans’ human sacrifice to stave off the end of the earth, a practice that once the Spanish put a stop to proved to be wholly unnecessary. Our rulers also seek to justify (if not preserve) their status through dysgenic actions… Read more »
J6 was barely a riot, except in the minds of the usual suspects. Sure, some disorderly conduct but no comparison to the “mostly peaceful protests” (ie hyperviolent arson sprees) of the summer previous. Most “normal” people are puzzled by why it was made into such a big deal. Not to mention the nagging question of who actually instigated the illegal acts. If you seriously believe J was an insurrection, you are living on Planet MSM.
The only mistake made by the J6ers (albeit a big one) was they didn’t finish the job properly. If you’re going to do it, do it all the way. The only people who should have walked out of that building were J6ers. No one else…
Indeed. If you storm the Winter Palace, storm the Winter Palace.
To quote Talleyrand, it was worse than a tragedy; it was a blunder. We walked right into a DS trap. It also took normie attention away from the REAL insurrection: November 2020.
It’s always quite a thing to emerge from Plato’s cave and get a taste of a little clearer sunlight. Once you do, there’s never any going back to the old lies.
What’s occurring in the USA seems to be very similar to what used to occur in “elections” in US controlled banana republics like Honduras, Nicaragua, and El Salvador: real candidates would either be forced out one way or another (legal, or imprisonment, or defamation, or intimidation) or just assassinated. What goes around comes around. Third world USA.
As an aristocratic Brit told me to my face once, “America is too important to leave the decision making to Americans.” But for who he is, I would have punched out his ungrateful limey teeth.
The shenanigans of the current regime could probably not have worked, or at least would have been much more difficult, in the USA of yore, which was ethnically and culturally much more homogeneous. But in a country where whites will become a minority by 2050, and which is flooded with immigrants from other places who have no idea of self-government and rights, and who hail from places that are often despotisms, it’s easier to get away with all this. The end result of all this will be a Somoza, Batista, or Duvalier.
Worse, it’ll be the soft dictatorship of Rishi Sunak and Sadiq Khan, celebrating Euroweek (schoolgirls ordered to fraternize with dusky 30 year-old “immigrants”).
Yeah, that happened.
Comments like that make me wonder if Tom Luongo and Alex Krainer aren’t on to something with their, “All roads lead to London,” thesis.
I do believe the City of London and the UK aristocracy exert disproportionate influence over US affairs, far more influence than our voters do. The role of wealthy Jewish families and literal Mafioso both inside N. America and abroad is substantial, too. We haven’t determined our choices in generations. Personally, I now have greater appreciation for how the aboriginal tribes must have felt while being colonized.
Luongo loves his complex conspiracies and gets angry when anyone contradicts him. The snots in London are just one part of the DS swamp.
Churchill expressed this same sentiment over 80 years ago when he said that Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else. My first thought was fuck off and save your own country then.
But ‘e’s roight, you bloody Yank
Simple as
Seethin’
Off to pub to hoist a Carly
~Baz
Nicaragua seems the most analogous. It retained some indicia of liberal democracy but would from time to time squelch even that. For example, the wife of one of the revolutionaries, Violetta Chamorro, would publish the main newspaper LA PRENSA in opposition to the police state, and the Sandinistas would close it down and then let it open again. The one foot in, one foot out act is much the approach in today’s America.
America’s Liberal Democracy is directly analogous to Iran’s Islamic Republic
In both systems the first word is the defining one, providing the paradigm within which second word operates. For us, that means that democracy is fine as long as it validates and advances liberalism. And completely illegitimate where it counters liberalism.
The banning of Trump by our regime’s clerisy will make that point obvious to all but the willfully obtuse. Which unfortunately is a large fraction of normie YTs.
Hitler IS under the bed. When he rose to power the first thing he did was drag out judges like those in Colorado – and make them disappear. The system pukes screamed bloody murder but the dirt people cheered or shrugged. If Trump goes down…the next guy that comes along is only going to be meaner and tougher. There sometimes comes a point where relationships get so bad that the courts and cops and restraining orders don’t work anymore and all there is left…is vengeance. Every second shit-poast on Blab is about how “they hate you and want to kill… Read more »
In the mid-nineties, the Democrats used Colorado as one of its leading fear mongering tokens. Colorado was a part of the bible belt. In fact, the same is true of Oregon. Colorado and Oregon seemed like stalwarts. Colorado was knocked out by tech industry migration. Sun, Cisco, DOD … … opened labs out there and California came in and turned it. These techno-elite whites were the arrowhead. Now the migration waves have finished it off. Oregon was taken down by retiring hippies who moved to Eugene and Portland. Being the home of Nike was a terrible thing as well. A… Read more »
While tech sector immigration and Hispanic immigration into Colorado certainly made a difference, it was the deadly combination of automatic “motor voter” registration at the DMV and universal mail-in voting enacted in 2012 that turned the state deep blue. Colorado’s elections have been rigged ever since. See my comment above for more detail.
I knew some of the power players in the Republican party in Colorado at the time. A few were whispered as Presidential contenders. They mostly supported these laws, too stupid to understand what the Democrats were going to do with them.
The one who perceives the marriage is over before they become consciously aware that it’s over may have an affair that brings the situation to a head.
With whom will we have our affair?
The regime is having an affair with immigrants.
Seriously, they’re kicking seniors and veterans out of housing so that it can be used by their new pets.
How much more obvious does their cheating need to get?
Even legacy Blacks are starting to feel the heat.
Kinda sad that n$ggers are more perceptive than boomers that they are being replaced…
In the GAE province of Germany they literally have institutionalized programs that feed German daughters to the invaders:
https://patriactionary.wordpress.com/2023/12/19/sacrificing-their-daughters-to-foreign-gods/
I have always thought Traudl Junge was a lovely looking woman… but I also read that Ilse Koch was a good cook.
Decisions, decisions.
I hope you are doing well Brother it’s good to see the old WRSA crew out here in the wild…
Would somebody please tell me what the he!! “Bleib ubrig” means?
I think it is being had with Trump.