The New Paganism

After finishing the show last week, I thought I left too much on the cutting room floor, so I picked up those scraps to make a follow on show this week. With next weekend being Memorial Day, there may not be a show on Friday, so I figured a sequel to the original while the ideas were fresh in my mind made some sense. If I do a show next week it will be on short topics, so send your suggestions.

The thing I wanted to get to last week, but spent too much time bashing the Protestants, is that we are in an age in which we not only have a fractured morality, but we also have a fractured metaphysics. The extreme example is we have some people who think their sex is assigned to them at birth. If they wish hard enough, they can change their sex and transcend the two-sex paradigm.

Crazy people are a part of every society, so while these people are fringe weirdos, they get support from a large and powerful segment of society. Many of our ruling class question the basics of reality. They are open to sex being imaginary because they are open to reality being a shared delusion created by the pale penis people to dominate the nonwhite population.

It is exceedingly difficult to have a society composed of people with differing opinions about how society ought to be organized and how we ought to live in it. If the differences are not too wide, then some compromise can be made. It is not possible to have a stable society when large parts of it have a different conception of reality from other parts of society, which is the present situation.

This new paganism is in some way an effort to create a new universal morality to replace the old one and use it to clear the decks of the alternatives. In another way it is an acknowledgement that the differences in how these different groups understand reality is too different to ever have a shared morality. Attempts to impose a new morality just highlight these differences in how we perceive reality.

The Gaia worshippers, for example, are not dealing in practical issues like the physical world when they demand sustainable agriculture and renewable energy. These are not real things that can exist in the physical world as most people understand it. Therefore, it is probably not possible for them to share the same society as those who think we should exploit our resources to advance our material existence.

The race issue is where the differences in morality and metaphysics make clear that the gaps are two large to traverse. If you think magic is why black people commit so much more crime than whites, you can never find a compromise with those who think behavior is rooted in biology. There can be no agreed upon ways to deal with black crime that are satisfactory to both camps.


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This Week’s Show

Contents

  • Intro
  • Paganism Review
  • The Moral Society
  • Unifying Morality
  • The Great Disaster
  • New Paganism
  • Metaphysics & Morality

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Grant
Grant
4 hours ago

The Mainline Protestant denominations apparently aren’t that far gone if you look beyond the pulpit into the pews. In the last podcast from Anglican Unscripted (914), one of the topics the hosts discussed is that the laity of the Mainline Protestant congregations like the United Methodist Church (UMC), Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA), and others voted 60-40 in favor of Trump. Their pastors and bishops (or whatever equivalent to bishop they use) are all loony dingbats, but the average person in the pew is downright sick of the nonsense. People want the nation and… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Grant
1 hour ago

Any denomination that is vaguely orthodox shows signs of life. That said, we live in sea of secularism. Modernism by sheer numbers is about the agnostics of the world.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Grant
1 hour ago

On a side note, the Episcopalians hate whites so much, they refused their resettlement services to the 59 South African asylum seekers. They actually turned down the money!

It might not have been Woke racism, however.
It might have been because these were the first asylum seekers waving American flags.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Alzaebo
1 hour ago

I agree with your assessment but the leaders of the church said that they withdrew because the white refugees had been moved ahead of non-whites. Their objection was not not that the refugees were white but that they received special privileges.

But we know it’s simply because the refugees are white.

Last edited 1 hour ago by LineInTheSand
Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
39 minutes ago

They said that? Oh FFS!!

The Biden 10 million ahead of them didn’t matter. That the Pisskeys were flying over to Africa to scoop up more years ago didn’t matter. Oh no, white people under a death sentence should’ve had to wait some more.

The Ramaposa admin is spamming and crashing the emmigration application website. Expropriation of property means ALL property, not just farmland, but even the watch on your wrist. And now, noggers are “eligible” for the Afrikaaner program.

Last edited 29 minutes ago by Alzaebo
Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Grant
1 hour ago

60-40 Trump is damning with faint praise.

Especially given how rainbow Trump is on most issues.

RealityRules
RealityRules
2 hours ago

Unfortunately, we are here at this moment because 100 or so years ago some very wicked people intentionally decided to unleash a bunch of lies. They admit in their writings. They came and they saw the scabs and wounds and weaknesses of men and their civilization. They willfully sewed discord through envy, jealousy, guilt, and turned strengths into weaknesses and weaknesses into strengths. They were tolerated. Worse, they were permitted entry and given access to buy and monopolize and command the heights of the society they sought to subvert. Some did it for the sheer pleasure of revenge. Some did… Read more »

Maxda
Maxda
2 hours ago

Christianity in the south is still prospering by splitting away from mainline liberal denominations. The Presbyterians are fractured – PC USA being the woke side that people are leaving for more traditional sects like PCA and ECO.

The Chicago Lutheran synod has rainbow flags everywhere – so the Missouri and Wisconsin synods are growing by being traditional.

The Methodist church split up last year. Many of them around here went to the conservative Global Methodist side.

There are traditional Anglican churches that aren’t insane like the Episcopalians

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Maxda
1 hour ago

The Protestant reform framework is based in divorce. Of course there are sincere Christians who are orthodox. However, the need to keep shattering is not a sign of overall strength. And so that I become a broken record, Catholic framework has not prevent modernity.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Maxda
1 hour ago

What the Left cannot control it seeks to destroy. As the traditionalists within these denominations splinter, the Progressive-controlled rump will wither and die and then seek to infiltrate and gain control of those they forced out. This is true of any type of group. O’Sullivan got part of it right, but being explicitly rightwing is only a piece of it. Constant vigilance also has to be explicit.

ray
ray
Reply to  Maxda
1 hour ago

The wheat and the chaff separating.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Maxda
42 minutes ago

Whew! And I thought Catholics were confusing.

My Comment
My Comment
2 hours ago

“The Gaia worshippers, for example, are not dealing in practical issues like the physical world when they demand sustainable agriculture and renewable energy.”

Most of those Gaia worshipers, the true adherents not the ones who know it is nonsense but are using it for nefarious purposes, are women. Without women making babies the society can’t exist.

This is why driving a stake through the heart of feminism is a necessity if the culture is to survive. As we all know, feminism causes women to go insane and lowers the birthrate.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  My Comment
1 hour ago

The key ingredient to toxic feminism is Critical Theory. Wanting something in your interest isn’t bad or unnatural; this holy mission is the absolutist need to “reform” White society into some vague whatever because White Man Bad.

Toxic feminism and CT reward our women for betraying their men and race. It tells them they are victims, that white men don’t value them. Imagine if the incentives rewarded both men and women for complementing each other and for White pride together rather than setting them at each other’s throats in a winner take all scenario.

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Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  My Comment
1 hour ago

There’s been a 100+ year war on women. Lenin sounds a lot like a “3rd wave” feminist. Current trannie trends basically even turn men into better women than women.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  My Comment
1 hour ago

Feminists are not wrong when they charge us with wanting to force them back into the home.

We have to convince them that domesticity will make most of them happier than competing with men.

They need praise so badly that we will have to force the media to celebrate domestic women and forbid the mocking or belittling of them.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 hour ago

If some dame says, “Whaddya want me to do, stay home and bake cookies?”, string her up!

(That’s a joke, by the way…)

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
1 hour ago

I remember when Hillary made a disparaging remark like that. “Well, I guess I could have just stayed home and baked cookies.”

Quiet Observer
Quiet Observer
Reply to  LineInTheSand
13 minutes ago

She’d have done us a favor.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
13 minutes ago

Barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen!

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 hour ago

“They need praise so badly that we will have to force the media to celebrate domestic women and forbid the mocking or belittling of them.” Women do need praise more than men. That is true. That said, how much of any human would celebrates being looked upon as a leech, an overly emotional baby oven, and only good for making sandwiches if there’s not money for servants is an open question. It’s not like men are excited to be janitors or seek that in terms of status. Modern fathers in particular seem eager to mold their easier to mold daughters… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Wiffle
1 hour ago

I agree with a lot of what you wrote but part of the problem is that you characterize a wife and mother as “a leech, an overly emotional baby oven, and only good for making sandwiches if there’s not money for servants.”

Is that how you really view good moms?

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  LineInTheSand
45 minutes ago

There’s a longer post waiting for approval. Just quickly though, I don’t view good Moms that way. I tried to edit it afterword as a bit too harsh but failed thanks to a weird error. More thoughts incoming.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
4 minutes ago

Now, now. I think it’s part of the Black tax. Stuck at home with nothing but tedium and yapping kids gets to you. What women need, why they like the workforce- better yet, part time, on-and-off, not the daily grind- is they need a lot of society, like guys need buds. They just need a lot more women around at times, and stuck in a suburban box doesn’t cut it like having friends down the block or around the corner (or the fish market or church) dropping in all the time.

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Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  LineInTheSand
14 minutes ago

It’s the visuals. They say men respond to visual, well so do women in the biggest way. On the TV was Good Morning America. I turned the sound off, and there was the real message: segment on stronk empowered black social leader inspiration lady (who just needed funds), hard working independent happy Latina baker lady (who just needed a loan), and finally, dumpy stringy haired unemployed middle aged white depression lady, who just needed meds.

ray
ray
Reply to  My Comment
56 minutes ago

‘This is why driving a stake through the heart of feminism is a necessity if the culture is to survive.’

Feminism rules now and has for many decades. The results speak for themselves.

Women love it and so do the elite. But it’s a cancer, however profitable to some. Destroy it or it’ll destroy you.

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LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  ray
53 minutes ago

Every year we get more feminism and every year women report greater unhappiness. No one is allowed to draw the obvious conclusion.

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  My Comment
45 minutes ago

Women are insane by default, feminism just enables that.

However, 3g4me claims to be a woman and I agree with 99% of her posts, so unicorns do exist apparently.

Lavrov
Lavrov
2 hours ago

Are Christians allowed to discuss how the rules of early Christianity were created or do you have to be a pagan to do so?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Lavrov
2 hours ago

Authority, sausage-making, etc.

I don’t think it’s all cynical, but it is complicated.

Last edited 2 hours ago by Paintersforms
Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Lavrov
1 hour ago

Christians are allowed to discuss the rules of early Christianity. Unfortunately many modern people, regardless of religious outlook, don’t want to hear that God/Jesus left a specific group of people in charge of the earthly Church, all of whom were sinners. What modernity spreads as an idea is that order to have authority, someone must be perfect morally and absolutely wise their decision making. It’s also a reflection of the Blob’s opinion of themselves. Part of the group Trump meltdown is having a man clearly shielded by God who is so obviously less than perfect getting things done. So if… Read more »

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ray
ray
2 hours ago

Impossible for me to reconcile with what New Amerika has become.

I will take my brothers with me and we’ll see how she fares then.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  ray
1 hour ago

Hail the Reconquista! If we fall, you gents are our backup plan.

It only took a few Spaniards last time (and only a few colonists up here), and you lads already had the stones to boldly go forth to settle in foreign lands in our oldest tradition. One has to admit, those who came before had the gumption because they were girded by faith.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
1 hour ago

People that believe in nothing will believe anything.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Filthie
22 minutes ago

And I dunno if it matters or not… but that was a much better show, Z. 👍

Mr. House
Mr. House
47 minutes ago

If anyone wants evidence that the media is solely used to create a false reality like covid, i submit this

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/umich-sentiment-collapses-near-45-year-record-lows-democrats-inflation-dissonance

JMDGT
JMDGT
1 hour ago

All roads lead to agnosticism. Unless of course you find something else to worship at the alter of. I sure hope some girl bosses will straighten things out for us. Possibly some magic negroes or middle eastern gurus will.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
2 hours ago

I generally agree with your closing statement in that whatever formation we’d want for a group identity a shared ethos of some sort will be required. Optimists think that Christianity can be reformed to this end and all I can say is “maybe” and, well, there’s no other ideas besides that I’ve seen*.
*(Strict White nationalists will point genetic clannishness being the basis and while I think their point has some validity I just don’t think it’s workable; too many White nationalist men with…”not White nationalist” wives).

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
1 hour ago

As a practicing Catholic, I cannot emphasize enough that a sincere Christian faith cannot be “reformed” to the liking of a nationalist of any color. That is not the point of the faith. Any good social by-products are just that, by-products. If we reach for Heaven as a group, we start to make a little of it imperfectly here. The by-products of Christianity cannot be attained by dishonestly discarding the faith itself. That said, Europe was losing her religion no later than the late 19th century. The Great War in 2 parts of the early 20th century was a lot… Read more »

Templar
Templar
6 minutes ago

The thing I wanted to get to last week, but spent too much time bashing the Protestants

Oh nonsense. One can never spend too much time bashing Prots LOL.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
26 minutes ago

Now I’m miffed. F all that, let’s just get to the “and let God sort ’em out” phase.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
52 minutes ago

“This new paganism is in some way an effort to create a new universal morality to replace the old one and use it to clear the decks of the alternatives.” So true. So true. I certainly took to heart the admonition that “we need a new religion!” Something real, this time, as the times demand; what we find, though, is that the new cannot discard the old. I say we see the old religion(s) not in the light of new interpretation as the Woke and each splitting before them, but in the light of re-discovery. Let’s examine what they were… Read more »

justme
justme
1 hour ago

Excellent show! Thank you.
Interesting times indeed.

Morgan County Garden Club
Morgan County Garden Club
3 hours ago

Don’t be stupid: sustainable agriculture is the basis of human civilization.

Always has been, always will be.

Namely
Namely
Reply to  Morgan County Garden Club
2 hours ago

Don’t be stupid. X has been the basis of all religions. Fill up the X.
1, sex
2, raising kids
3,

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Morgan County Garden Club
2 hours ago

I agree. If you’re becoming settled, you can’t shit too hard where you sleep. Gotta find that sweet spot.