Note: The Taki post is up. This week it is about the fact that two years of Covid has revealed some unforgettable and unforgivable truths. Behind the green door, there is the first podcast of the new year.
Politics in a democratic society is always going to attract a lot of very strange people, but there is a range of acceptable strangeness. As a result, the weirdness tends to be normalized in that you just expect it. No one is surprised to learn that people in politics have the morals of carny folk, because politics is entertainment. We are not shocked by it unless the behavior falls way outside the norm. That is what makes the Jack Murphy scandal both amusing and interesting.
For those unfamiliar, Jack Murphy was a leader in the man-o-sphere scene, which is a broad term covering anti-feminism, the pick-up artists, men’s rights and the general discussion of manliness in the modern age. Murphy pitched himself as a bit from all of those buckets, but mostly the latter. He ran something called the Liminal Order and charged men $100 a month to learn how to be better men. He also had ornamental facial hair and worked for The Claremont Institute.
It also turns out that he produced gay porn and was into something called cuckoldry, which is a sexual fetish involving voyeurism and sex with strangers. If you are interested in the details of Mr. Murphy’s side hobbies, someone calling herself Megan Fox posted them at PJ Media. Of course, Jack Murphy is not really Jack Murphy, Irish he-man, but rather, he is someone named John Goldman, who is not Irish. It is hard to imagine how this story could get any more ridiculous.
Putting aside the seediness of it, this story raises a question that seems to be at the heart of most scandals. Did this guy not know how the internet works? He was selling gay porn on-line, so he had to know something about the internet. Did he really think that no one would ever look around at his internet life? It appears he made little effort to conceal any of this stuff. How is it possible he did not know he would get caught and why was he not prepared to answer for it?
You cannot write it off to hubris or ignorance. A quick search of his two names brings up this article from three years ago. He was working for the D.C. Public Charter School Board in 2018 as a finance manager. He was also posting as an alt-right character under his fake name at the time and the board found out about it. Interestingly, he was not fired from his job. In fact, the local ACLU came to his defense. Even so, he should have learned that there are no secrets on-line.
Another question that comes up in these cases is how is it possible that these guys keep getting away with these scams? Charging men $100 a month to learn how to be better men is crazy, but not uncommon. Mike Cernovich used to run self-help seminars where he would charge people to be their life-coach. Ross Jeffries in the 1980’s ran seminars where he taught the art of seduction. YouTube is full of guys peddling something like this to desperate men.
The answer to the question here is that there are a lot of men in a modern society who can find no role as men in society. Just as childless women hopped up on feminism often turn into on-line harpies, men living in a feminized society often turn into desperate suckers willing to pay anything for fraternity. Murphy/Goldman was simply exploiting this need for fraternity and male bonding. He is a con-man who finally found easily exploitable marks on the alternative right.
Far-left types and feminists find this story very amusing, as they assume it says something about the imaginary Right they think they are battling. They are correct that this is a phenomenon on the Right, but that is only because there is no place for naturally occurring males on the Left. Otherwise, there is very little that is right-wing about the man-o-sphere. The politics are decorations that are used as a lure to draw in the desperate males looking for brotherhood.
The best you can say about the man-o-sphere, with regards to politics and political inclination, is that it is uniformly anti-feminist. The gamers, the pick-up artists and even the groypers entered politics through the anti-feminism door. The ugliness of feminism has driven males away from mainstream and left-wing politics. This is why Murphy/Goldman had to transform himself from a standard issue on-line lefty into a Trump supporting right-wing anti-feminist in order to work his grift.
Behind all of this is the fact that he found an easy home among people who are supposed to be more prudent and intellectually rigorous. In 2021, the Claremont Institute made him a Lincoln Fellow. For some reason, everything involving the name Lincoln turns out to be riddled with sexual degeneracy. Putting that aside, how is it possible that they did not know he was a faker? They surely did a background check on him before inviting him to the team.
You can look at this two ways. One is they were desperate for attention, so they just invited in someone who seemed to have a big audience on-line. Charlie Kirk, who is as dumb as a hamster, was also a Lincoln Fellow. In other words, it is the old guys trying to get some street cred by inviting in those who they think are the cool kids on this internet thing they have been reading about in the papers. They never thought to look into his background to see if he was also selling gay porn.
The other answer, the most likely one, is they knew he was a fraud, but they did not care as he was willing to play ball. It was the old quid pro quo. They would grant these “internet influencers” some intellectual legitimacy in exchange for them spreading the right message to their followers. They knew he was not an Irish he-man, but that did not matter, so they did not look any further. They just wanted access to his audience, so they never bothered to ask any questions.
That is a good lesson for anyone involved in political activism. Politics attracts a lot of weirdos, because we live in a liberal democracy, which favors carny folk. That means you have to know the back story of the people you wish to trust. If it does not add up or they are lying, then you are best to avoid the person entirely. The same way one judges a new coworker or new neighbor should apply more so in politics. The old Cold War term, “trust but verify” should be the way in dissident politics.
In the end, this story is nothing but a bit of momentary amusement, but it is another good sign as we head into the next phase of dissident politics. This scandal is not on this side of the great divide, but on the normie side. Murphy/Goldman had no influence on this side as this side has become much more skeptical about these guys who are on-line political entertainers. That suggests there is a maturing in dissident politics and an awareness of the weirdo problem.
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You left out Molyneux as one of these manosphere advisors for hire. Of course he morphs into many things like his present bitcoin guru phase.
As far as old guys overlooking obvious flaws with younger grifters to get their followers, you might look even at people like Paul Ramsey. Not a bad guy but seems desperate to get his brand more noticed. He could and occasionally does get better people on his stream like Zman, but also the likes of Styxhexxanhammer (whatever), Roosh, Milo and even going on guntboy Ethan Ralph. Enough of this.
*Stefan* Molyneux? Huh, the world is full of strange twists.
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plus Ramsay pimps his GF, Sascha (not that I am complaining). It’s only a matter of time before he has a FansOnly page setup for her. the thing is, he doesn’t have anything remotely insightful or original to talk about. we all know what the problems are, etc etc etc.
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It’s amazing to me that so many of these people turn out to be weirdos. They are everywhere. It’s quite the “cohen-inicidence.”
I ended up watching the Metakur New Year’s Eve stream which was entirely on Murphy/Goldman.
There is just no way all these degenerates and morally deficient people are rising to (minor) prominence on their own talent. Metakur had some stuff showing Goldman was being pushed by a billionaire and how youtube was stacking the search results of videos exposing Murphy. At the very same moment, Goldman was both trending and impossible to find. That doesn’t just happen naturally. Someone made the search results disappear.
Even in the normie space, I think this is probably the case. I was looking for some new bread recipes the other day and I found all these really large YT cooking channels that are the YT equivalent of reality TV. Just fake and gay to the max. It cannot be a coincidence that all these horrible channels with such fake and stupid hosts are just moms and dads who cook and got hundreds of thousands of subs on their mom/dad jokes and that “I’m your best friend” phony way of talking.
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Fake and gay indeed!
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The manosphere plays a critical role in getting men to break from conditioning taught to them from school and weak fathers, if they had an active father in their life at all. The problem is the core teachings are not difficult to grok, but it’s very difficult to turn your life around after a lifetime of romantic embarrassments. You have guys like Goldman who feed off this with exorbitant clubs.
Also, because the sphere is rather constricted, people in the game a long time need to branch out to more sociological comments for new, interesting material. Heartiste was a prime example of this, and there’s honestly nothing wrong with this as long as you’re not hustling weak-willed people out of money.
Also, there’s some chatter his Liminal Society is an FBI honeypot, as there are rumors of Goldman’s relationship with feds and was a high profile shooting involving a guy associated with the society. Have no opinion one way or the other about this though.
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I confess to not understanding the appeal. I think age plays a role. I remember the old guys making fun of the Charlie Atlas ads in the back of magazines. I was a teenager when Ross Jeffries was a thing. I also remember those guys who sat around in the woods banging drums. I suspect men of my generation or older grew up thinking that whole scene was just for weirdos.
I did read Heartiste, but after he shifted from game to general topics. The pick-up artist stuff never held much appeal as I never had trouble talking with women.
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I definitely think that age plays a role. Gen X was the transitional generation for men.
An early Gen Xer born in, say, 1965 was fourteen in 1979 and eighteen in 1983. He would have grown up in a fairly normal, traditional environment in terms of men. Feminism was out there but wasn’t a part of everyday life for most guys.
A mid-Xers born in say, 1971, was fourteen in 1985 and eighteen in 1989. Depending on where he grew up, he would have a more mixed bag environment. Feminism would start to enter his world, especially if he went to college. I’d argue that the number of male role models would be less as well. That said, our mid-Xer would still know the world of traditional men.
A late Xer born in, say, 1979, would have been fourteen in 1993 and eighteen in 1997. He would have been hit hard by feminism and a lack of good male role models.
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Someone born in 1979 would probably refer to themselves as a millennial and that really is where you see the change. Those who came of age from the mid-90’s on had a very different experience than those who came of age earlier. We probably should split the generational divide at Windows 95. Those before were 16-bit and those after were 32-bit.
Growing up without computers and, certainly, without the internet was the key. Even TV was bad back then, though I’d argue the introduction of cable TV was a pretty big step in making guys more wussy. MTV alone did a lot of damage.
But if you live in a world where the morals of your community are based on the people in the community because you simply don’t see much else, you will likely get morals based on nature because the community has to work by those rules or collapse.
You will see that strong men do well and weak men don’t. You can’t hide in a virtual reality because there is no virtual reality. Heck, back then, you couldn’t even hide in books because books in that time celebrated winning and not being victim.
There are men who wear beards and look normal and there are men who wear them, as Z says, and they come off as costume.
Black Rifle Coffee seems to fall into this general cernovich / Murphy orbit of faux manliness, and there is always something queer about them. The one black rifle ad had their key people performing something like a drag show.
WRT Lincoln as being attached to homosexuality, there was always the Log Cabin Republicans. Perhaps that’s the point of origin.
It’s also funny how the “alpha” macho guys go around saying regular guys are gay when those guys are married with kids and the alphas are rooming with a dude. Lots of weird shit going on with these guys.
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Falcone: This is so terribly sad, that guys who are desperate for normal male companionship and natural confidence and female interest get taken advantage of by those same freaks who have destroyed normal society and push a parody of both masculinity and femininity. I used to read Heartiste (although never commented there) but at least half his stuff was political. And fwiw, I learned a fair amount about how younger men think and view the world from my reading. And he was spot on concerning women in most cases.
Excellent point about the Log Cabin Republicans. What precisely is the appeal of Lincoln to homosexuals? I always thought Cernovich was strange and try-hard (and claiming to represent Western civilization while marrying and having children with a Muslima), and I’ve never heard of Murphy. And didn’t Charlie Kirk have a previous 15 minutes of fame for pushing homosexuality as a conservative value to college republicans?
Strange people, sick society.
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Heartiste/Roissy’s evolution was inspiring to watch.
He started as the best writer in the manosphere but he was entirely driven by satisfying his personal desires. When questions of politics arose, his standard dismissal was, “You can find me poolside.” He was going to party as the Titanic sank.
But gradually he changed. His sharp eye for pattern detection and his knowledge of evo-psych could not be restricted to male-female issues.
Now this formerly individualistic hedonist is one of the most dedicated white nationalists on gab.
The lesson that I draw is that hedonism is not psychologically nourishing over the long haul. A necessary part of fulfillment as a human is that you must pledge yourself to a larger community and cause.
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This is hard to explain but I will try.
Not long ago during a succession of school shootings, I was chatting with a millennial whose take of course was to ban weapons, and I said something to the effect that no classmates of mine ever wanted to shoot me and my classmates. So maybe the problem could be found within the millennial culture itself. He clearly was not ready for any such blame casting and went berserk.
But my point was that from the total football stud jock to the computer nerd, we would team up and all could see who the troubled kids were and took them under our wings and brought them into the fold. It was like a part time job in addition to schooling. With the younger crowd, there is so much dysfunction and lack of caring and empathy. Plus social media where people commit suicide over the way others treat them. It’s no mystery to me why some of them go haywire and shoot up their classmates, plus add in all the drugs they’re pushing. Another medical scam, for the record, in addition to covid. Great job medical community. Will YOU all ever take some responsibility.?
So, yes, I do feel for these younger guys who are totally lost and looking for male bonding and attention from women. Their entire society and culture is in shambles. There’s no cohesion and group effort to make things better for everyone. I hope it changes.
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Social media and the dismantling of local communities by globalism have literally made young people and women crazy.
The overwhelming need for attention and approval has enslaved and warped millions.
I can only imagine the dopamine high that a young person must feel when their selfie is liked or that a middle aged woman feels when the video of her shaming the maskless becomes popular. Or some high school boy announcing that he is a tran_y or a f_g.
There was a fairly big foot historian, I forget his name and am too lazy to look it up* who used to argue that Lincoln was gay. Of course, he was from the “everyone in History was gay” school of historiography…
* Think how lazy you have to be today to be too lazy to look something up.
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“It’s also funny how the “alpha” macho guys go around saying regular guys are gay when those guys are married with kids and the alphas are rooming with a dude. Lots of weird shit going on with these guys.”
I think being “Alpha” is like being “Smart”. If you have to walk around telling people you’re smart, you’re probably not, or certainly not as smart as you think you are. Or you are The Greatest Internet Blogger The World Has Ever Seen You Mid-wit Troll, You’re Just Too Stupid To Appreciate My Intellect. (Also buy my books here at this link).
Men are action based. If you’re Alpha, you go out and DO. Like Theodore Roosevelt’s The Man in the Arena you fight, get bruised, bloodied, criticized, and defeated, but pick yourself up and keep fighting.
Not every man can be an Alpha. But quiet competence, hard work, and dedication go unappreciated until as Z points out, they’re no longer there.
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it’s not about what *men* think women should want (in a man), it’s what women actually do want. lots of good little boys all confused that following every rule put in front of your nose, doesn’t lead to success with the ladies.
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Best take on Black Rifle Coffee, and on the current iteration of the manliness stuff, was in Revolver. Revolver described BRCC as the coffee company aimed at male-to-male transexuals. Young men who want to be men, but who have only a cartoonish idea of what it means to be a man.
Murphy, with the theatrical facial hair and the pretend identity, is the same spawn as BRCC and all the rest.
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so “black rifle” is just a metaphor? or is it more of an anal-ogy?
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Like Lincoln himself when he was younger…
Regarding the Taki article and the division of society into the sane and insane as typified by Covid hysteria: the role of doctors and the supposed health experts get far less blame than they deserve. I have found that many normal people can accept that their politicians lie. The press lies they can see. However, they can’t accept that their doctors and big time health experts at best don’t know what they are talking about and at worst are lying to them about Covid and the vaccines.
In the US you at least get a minority of doctors and nurses who are rebelling. In Asia nearly 100 percent of the medical community is on board with the hysteria. That has most people more terrified of Covid now than a year ago.
Most Westerners I know, who in turn know a doctor on a personal level, will eventually ask the doctor what they should do about the vaccines. The doctors will nearly always tell them to get Pfizer. Even if they know the hysteria is nonsense and that there are major risks with the vaccines, they will get the jab because the doctor said to do so
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One of my Aunts was banned from all gatherings on her husband’s side of the family, which consists heavily of nurses and doctors. It’s clear these people are not doing this for safety, but to ensure proper compliance to their authority. One white-pill is the average person is getting a taste of medical psychopathy that has always been endemic up close and personal.
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One point I like to make about doctors and the medical community is that throughout history they have never been at the forefront of scientific discovery. They have typically trailed as the herd mentality within the profession stifles free thinking and innovation.
As an example, I point out that while Einstein was busy developing his theory of relativity, doctors were still bloodletting.
You can also note that medical error kills over 200k people per year in the US (estimated before COVID).
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us
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The man who first tried to push regular hand-washing and sanitation in medical facilities in the mid 19th century was roundly condemned and attacked by the medical profession despite dramatic success in the hospital where he implemented his program and wound up dying in an insane asylum.
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Also doctors are not selected for creative problem solving skills, compassion or curiosity. They are selected for being very driven and having the ability to memorize huge amounts of details. Control the authority figures doctors turn to for what to memorize next and you control doctors.
All my life doctors have given bad diet advice because they mindlessly accepted what they are told and didn’t have the curiosity or skills to figure it out on their own
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My Comment: Asians are rule followers and herd creatures. So are women. Guess who’s most vexxed. And increasing numbers of “American” doctors are now Asian and women, not to mention affirmative action admits incapable of critical thinking. Medical school selects for conformity and most modern doctors are nothing more than glorified fronts for the pharmaceutical industry. A large number of nurses are non-White and/or are obese. I wouldn’t look to any of them for health advice.
A friend who is an aesthetician has a number of doctors as patients, and they ask HER all about Covid and the vexx, because they know how widely she reads and trust her to know the latest badthink information.
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Funny that the doctors are turning to the aesthetician for medical advice. Maybe they feel safer with that type of person in discussing bad thoughts like AA gives alcoholics and confessionals give catholics a chance to open up about their sins and weaknesses
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I wonder if med school selects for grinds- people who got good board scores and grades, but aren’t really that bright or intuitive. I don’t think a lot of the ordinary doctors are lying per se; rather they’re just not all that smart. Anyone out there in the med field- am I on to something, or am I the stupid one?
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Absolutely it does select for grinds. Medical school is also becoming, like a high school, a pass-them-through degree mill. The main barrier to becoming a doctor is getting accepted to medical school in the first place, and that’s not a very high bar, especially when you take into account the for-profit Caribbean degree mills.
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Definitely. Does it make sense to be a doctor that you have to be able to handle sleep deprivation or work insane hours? How much of what they learn is really important and the rest to weed out the non-insane type A personalities?
I doubt the competence of any doctor who consistently puts in more than 50 hour work weeks. Beyond that, you are likely just a cog in the machine. As long as your problem fits the mold, you’re probably fine. Otherwise, it is assembly line medicine.
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I disagree with every word in your post
I think you are on to something. My grandfather was a vascular surgeon and being a good doctor was always more of an art than a science and also having a good and calming bedside manner. When I say an art, I mean it was like being a good pianist. You had to have dexterity and a nice touch. It wasn’t so much about being a brainiac, as most of the hard work on what goes where and how to do this or that had already been established. He used to call himself a mechanic of the human body, and that always stuck with me.
How they select for doctors today seems misguided, focusing on highly cerebral folk who may be total klutzes rather than guys who simply have the temperament and motor skills to get the job done.
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Our entire medical industry has been taken over by psychopathic miniature Mengeles. Although in Dr. Mengele’s case, he wasn’t getting rich off of his research.
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And yet, in Asia, stories like this one can make the news. TVBS is a well-established 24 hour news channel in Taiwan that, like CNN in airports, is on in the background at many public places. This video is from a couple days ago and the first half concerns vexx injuries in young adults. The doctor who appears at the 12 second mark says, “After vaccinations we’re discovering sudden occurrences of reactions such as heart inflammation, muscular stress, and fluid in the pericardium tissue. We’re also seeing enlargement in the atrium and ventricle. Although these occurrences are not widespread, the number of patients we’re seeing with these symptoms is also not insignificant. Most of the patients are in their twenties and thirties.”
Have you seen a single interview like this on American television? Even on local news outlets? I’d be one of the last people to dispute the hive mentality of many Asian cultures, but the fact is that being “nearly 100 percent on board with the Covid hysteria” is perhaps even more applicable on these shores.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slVLM3qfJpY
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South Korea is starting to rebel because of vaccine related deaths and they will actually get coverage on the issue unlike in the US where a tribe that hates the populace controls the news
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My cardiologist and primary care physician both told me to stay as far away from vaccines as possible.
If your Dr is pushing for one to take the Jab, maybe time to look for a new Dr.
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Any decent and good doctor would always tell their patients to be wary of “cure all’s”
Fauci doesn’t know any of us. Our diets, our bodies, our allergies, our medical history, anything — and yet there he is from afar telling people to take something he has no idea of knowing how it will affect them. It’s criminal.
Every drug or vaccine or anything one puts into their bodies has the potential for negative side affects. Note those pharmaceutical commercials rattling off all the potential side affects and that the pregnant women shouldn’t take them, for example. Did we ever hear any of those cautions wrt to the so called vaccine? It’s basically one size fits all telemedicine, and bad things are going to happen. They have to because there are always people who will have adverse reactions. No escaping that.
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You probably have a major outlier then – good for you. I imagine the vast majority are following the hypocritc oath – going along for fear of losing their license. A pretty damn sad state of affairs. It’s harder and harder to take anything an MD says or prescribes with any seriousness – or without doing a bunch of research on your own – which is far easier to do these days.
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The important thing to know about almost all doctors, PAs, CNPs, etc, is that they all operate from a limited “toolbox”. This is especially true with the specialists. They will have had a certain amount of experience with similar problems and what has worked to resolve them. Therefore, every time a similar problem arises, they will always apply the same treatment. In other words, “when the only tool in your box is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”
I get to experience the “joy” of working with oncologists and hematologists quite a bit and I can tell you truthfully, they are among the very worst. This is why, if you should ever get a cancer diagnosis, especially one without a specific genetic marker that can indicate targeted treatment, you always get a second opinion! Not just from a different provider, but from an entirely different institution, as all the doctors in one clinic will tend to compare notes and back each other up. You need to consult with providers who utilize different toolboxes and different approaches to problem-solving. They’re not necessarily better, but can provide varied solutions to the same issue.
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They haven’t realized, yet, that doctors are no better than other people, are highly motivated by money, and no longer are restrained by “do no harm.”
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Asians are largely bug people.
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The best writers of the Manosphere eventually ran out of things to talk about and moved on to other topics, got censored, or just disappeared.
Its a shame really, as many of those great posts are likely lost forever. A young guy who is 20 now will not get to read the material from when the manosphere was at its peak (a year to two around 2010).
I stopped following that space years ago, and I can only imagine that the ones remaining are continuing to post out of pure monetary interest.
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“The best writers of the Manosphere eventually ran out of things to talk about and moved on to other topics, got censored, or just disappeared.”
Return of Kings started to become redundant and Roosh shuttered it. He’s since come to faith in Christ. I hope more of the (P)ussy (U)surps (A)ll follow in similar footsteps; promiscuity rarely produces anything good.
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Not all of it was PUA trash.
Dalrock’s blog (defunct but still online) and The-Spearhead (long gone) were two of my favorite anti feminism blogs
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I found Chateau Heartiste (a/k/a Roissy in DC) quite good, but I don’t know if he’s still writing after Word Press deplatformed him. Does anyone know where to find him these days?
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You can find him on Gab, as @kingofallnads
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Heartiste was consistently good…and that’s why he was deplatformed…
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Speaking of people being deplatformed. Modern Heretic 3000 was kicked off Blogspot a couple months ago. Does anyone know where he landed?
Roosh is an example of how screwed the whole scene is. Look, I’m all for forgiveness and repenting, but you can’t go from a promoter of degeneracy to a leader in a Christianity movement. It’s pathetic. Roosh needs to fade into obscurity. The problem is, his PUA thing has poisoned his regular life.
The same thing with Milo. He went from promoting degeneracy to being a leadership figure in the Christian scene. Repent and live in obscurity. The days of leadership are behind them.
Was the manosphere all that much different than what GQ used to offer? Or even Playboy?
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Yes, it was very “alternative” and often dealt with race and IQ.
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And the fact that females are motivated by factors alien to men, chiefly alpha-ness and a bad boy image, and therefore love invaders…None of which was in Playboy..
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I sure do miss Dr. William L. Pierce!
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“Of course, Jack Murphy is not really Jack Murphy, Irish he-man, but rather, he is someone named John Goldman, who is not Irish.”
Shocking! I shall curb the urge for many parentheses. Why on Earth do people start noticing things like that?
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Every.Single.Time!
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It’s an interesting thing. Reading a book about the Civil War covering the battle of the crater at Petersburg. Early on author talks about Union replacements and how half deserted before arriving. The rest were looked down on because of their poor quality. Well, some were decent and the example used was a little beanie guy. Turns out the author is a little beanie guy. It’s like the one lady columnist on the right being touted now for standing up to CRT. She’s part of the tribe. She was writing for small tribe newsletters and someone at the WSJ asked her to write some stuff for them. Yeah, I’m sure the WSJ looks at every podunk newsletter for talent.
Point being, find our own talent, tout it, and support it.
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This is how you know Z is right and we must burn witches again!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/19/executed-witches-scotland-pardons-witchcraft-act
“The best you can say about the man-o-sphere, with regards to politics and political inclination, is that it is uniformly anti-feminist. ”
This is pretty ironic, because it is feminism that makes the whole pickup-artist thing possible. Only with a lot of available women of loose or confused morals out trolling around the clubs does there become a market for that stuff, and without feminism that doesn’t exist.
Before the pickup-artist, men were taught to aspire to be hard-working, stable and prosperous — good marriage prospects.
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This is definitely true of PUA in the 90’s but by the 10’s it had taken on many reactionary tones and a bulk of the PUA acolytes were young men who were dissatisfied with modernity in general. PUA might have vanished like a fad but “red pill” manosphere took what used to be how-to exploit female psychology for free sex to its natural conclusion which was shock and awe at the degradation of women overall and thus modernity. I’d say at least a plurality of PUA enjoyers just wanted to grill.
Take the arc of Roosh V. He was a standard PUA and gradually his content became more reactionary. His penultimate book before he took his final form as an uber wholesome tradman was basically about how to PUA oneself a wife and then his final book was for women who want off the cock carousel.
I was never into PUA but I did read some Jeffries in high school and it enabled me to pick up a girlfriend from the local Catholic girl’s school. Those were the days!
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Roosh V came to mind when I read this article. Not that I believe he is a fraud, I don’t. I did enjoy his ROK and I also find his journey and reflections into Orthodox Christianity worthwhile and valuable.
I really enjoyed his thoughts in his book Pilgrim. I know he sometimes gets down on himself for focusing too much on the negatives of American culture, but many of his observations from his American “tour,” resonated with me.
In particuliar-and I noticed this before he began writing about it (sadly I have some people close to me with substance abuse problems)-check out the local librarys for an idea on the area you are visiting.
I called them homeless shelters in my locale. The druggies line up at opening, go in and use the free wifi and crash in cubicles. Librarians are charged with stemming the dysfunction. You have to get keys to use the bathrooms signs are everywhere telling one not to use drugs in the bathroom. Roosh highlights that the library of the barometer of the community.
Furthermore his podcasts are just eclectic: Orthodox Christianity, guilt over his past, Pick Up stories from many countries-matter of fact recollections, perhaps confessions, bird watching, notes on his parents and the generation gap, etc., bird watching, and how to find a trad wife. He has a dry sense of humor and I enjoy him. I hope he does not turn up selling gay porn :>(
And if they knocked up some babe, it might be marriage or else.
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“For some reason, everything involving the name Lincoln turns out to be riddled with sexual degeneracy. Putting that aside…”
Smooth.
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The Lincoln Project is also into vote fraud….,They seem to go together…
Sometimes I listen to the Robert Barnes livestream if I have mindless work to do on Sunday. Amusingly both Barnes and his cohost Frei were virulently defending Goldman (Frei accidentally called him “Goldstein”, which I found hilarious), Tim Pool seems to be going out of his way to cover him, and it also strange he’s had this unimportant and uninteresting man on his show so many times. Cernovich is “running away” entirely, clearly wanting to distance himself. Are these people Claremont types? Probably, at least they are spiritually. All the guys I like and tend to trust are making hay out of the amusing scandal.
It seems as though decent people are disgusted by cuckoldry and gay dirty talk Chatterbate sessions, but what makes this a scandal is how Goldman has handled it. He could have said he was embarrassed and sorry, then pretend to come to Jesus. Instead he acted shocked and outraged anyone would even bring it up. It’s as If he had some kind agreement with his network of influencers and for some reason thought the code of silence extended beyond his own sphere.
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Fantastic Taki piece, thank you. Yet another stellar article to forward to family and friends.
We hosted some out of town guests who are interested in the occasional sports ball game. After having been disconnected for so long, it was a shock to briefly check back in to that world. There was one commercial with a black guy baking cookies. I think he may have even been wearing an apron. Just an average afternoon in the ghettos of Detroit.
It must be quite a conundrum for those in advertising. They have to push the blackity black while also remembering to push the faggity fag. They have to throw in a commercial with two black lesbians on a sofa searching for homes on zillow. Those lesbians need to axe someone about redfin. Redfin no longer includes crime data on the site because ray-cism.
There was also a promo for a sitcom. Presumably, the clip they selected for the promo is the most humorous bit. The clip was laughably un-funny. Not too long ago, you might be able to sit down and enjoy a few laughs watching a quick 25 min. of Seinfeld, 30 Rock, and sometimes Arrested Development. Not to mention Mr. Hilter and a few other gems from Monty Python.
Do people really watch these new sitcoms nowadays? It’s television programming created by the brain-dead, for the brain-dead. We are absolutely not missing anything by remaining disconnected from the freak show.
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To answer your question about network TV sitcoms, almost no one still watches these shows. In the ratings they put out, which are probably fake anyway, they are at historic lows. CBS has a sitcom about a fat white guy who falls in love with a fat Nigerian immigrant. I was so stunned when I saw the commercial for it, I looked up the ratings. They claim it gets around 5 million viewers per episode, even as recently as ten years this would have resulted in a quick cancellation, but this political propaganda disguised as comedy is in its third season. My overall impression is that the networks have given up on getting viewers for non sports programs other than childless women.
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It is amazing how this has changed.
Recalling the 1980s when 30 million+ people (including my parents) would sit down every Friday night to watch Dallas. Seems like a different world.
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Yes, that was in a country with fewer households too. The NBC Thursday sitcom block in the 90s could plug in almost anything and get over 20 million viewers. CBS has another sitcom that is supposed to be a buddy comedy about a solider and his Afghani translator. It gets even worse ratings and is in its second season. They don’t even seem to be trying to draw an audience it is just about putting out regime propaganda.
I doubt Claremont did a decent background check on Murphy. The two most likely scenarios are the one you mention about desperation for someone with a big online audience or someone prominent within the organization knew him and just told them to hire him. Whether or not that person knew the truth is an open question.
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they probably did a background check, found all the kink – and loved it. and that’s why they hired him. he might very well have acted as a procurer, too.
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My thought as well. Being a degenerate seems to be a requirement to join globohomo, they need dirt on you if they’re to trust you.
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I doubt it, too. Most of these folks just aren’t very street smart. I remember a few years back Ezra Levant (Rebel Media, and that’s all the parentheses I’ll indulge in right now) got taken to the cleaners by a couple shady UK grifters. who were contracting for him. I think there was some faggotry involved in it, too.
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too funny; I almost posted an OT comment the other day, when I red the M Fox article. here is a dynamic i have seen over and over: you get this guy who speaks very confidently, in certitudes. this draws in weak males, looking for a “protector” or “guide”. a certain comic book purveyor is a perfect example of this. this is what Papa Bear Murphy was providing for $100 a month – shelter from the storm. David Koresh had the same scam working in Texas, where he was banging all the wives (and prohibiting hubs from doing so) and teen daughters. Plus the normies in his flock were supporting him financially!?
I am going to give the young guys here some precious knowledge, re: females. they are like cats, and do not like being chased; you have to catch their curiosity, and draw them in. they hate boredom more than anything, so almost anything out of the ordinary will delight them (temporarily). the movie “The Tao of Steve” covers this in somewhat greater detail. and as for conversation with a woman (i.e. what do i talk about now?!). just throw out a non-sequitur, casually, and then take a drink or bite of food, leaving the chick to figure things out; it’s a kind of verbal judo.
god damn some poor schlubs get rawdogged by the schloors, but then god made them schloor bait. i think i would rather shoot myself than be a low status male – any time, any place.
Regarding Z’s piece in TakiMag today: Love that Mencken quote he drops in there! I’ve been citing that one to various people for years. They always look at me as if I’m a tad zany — which is not entirely unwarranted.
How long can the Covid hysteria last? It seems to me that the only thing that will end it is some new craze that comes along. However, to surpass the Covid madness, this theoretical new craze will have to be especially crazy, perhaps like nothing we have yet seen. I shudder to imagine what it might be.
I had never heard of Jack Murphy until I came across Kevin Michael Grace talking about him this past Friday. Grifting and debauchery make a swell combination. Both appear without limit in our modern Clown World.
OT: re: blacks in ads. was thinking to myself how they always portray fantasy blacks (to prog whites) and not real ones. the blacks they portray, do not exist. what does that say about the progs (that they have inadvertently revealed by these ads)? if i were a real black, i would be more than a little uneasy (of course no real black sees this undercurrent of malevolence).
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That’s just for the old people, though. Kids watch hip-hop culture and soak it up in all its degenerate hate-Whitey glory. Cardi B is a huge star.
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I thought Cardi B was a nutritional supplement.
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It does sound like something you’d see in an advertisement at InfoWars.
“After two weeks of taking Cardi Be your life will be completely changed. You’ll have all the WAP you can handle!”
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Well, to be fair and enter the NABALT crowd. I once had a great friend in the Navy who was very black, but was intentionally raised by his parents in a white environment. We were in school together and he was quite smart and creative. His wife was Puerto Rican and also very nice. We went on hikes together and had great times.
I’m guessing they were the models for all the TV shows and commercials, as they were truly unique. I can’t recall any others like them in my life.
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Saw a new one yesterday. A mom wants to renovate her home and as a first step smashes a sledge hammer through a wall. On the other side is her daughter’s bedroom, where the 15 year old is sitting on her bed with a dusky suitor. As the mom pops her head through the wall like Jack Nicholson in The Shining, she coos “oh, he is cute!”
Never mind that the stovepipe in question has the bug-eyed appearance of a Somali, why in the actual hell do we permit this filth?
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Yesterday, I was wandering around the web and found a list of the top “christian” movies of 2021. The #1 was one on Netflix called “A Week Away”. Out of curiosity, I thought I’d give it a look. Damnation – the troubled White youth was taken under the wing of a sheboon and her white talking sprog. Off to christian summer camp they went, with the sprog eyeing a White girl. Joggers get ridiculously shoved down our throats left, right and center. There is virtually no all White entertainment anymore. The closest I can get is a hunting/fishing channel that is virtually jogger free, at least on the show. Commercials, even there, have some occasional vibrancy.
“That means you have to know the back story of the people you wish to trust.”
Well, to a degree. I don’t even know the Zman’s name, no less whether the rough outlines of his presented backstory are true. For all I know he could be a transvestite FBI agent working out of an office in Tubman D.C.
Fortunately, though, the appeal of the Zman isn’t “I live a life you should emulate.” If he is the aforementioned transvestite FBI agent, I hope all the essays and podcasts he’s LARPing are making him think!
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His name is out there, it’s actually visible if you find the right area.
That’s not his real name.
That’s true. EVERYBODY In The Know knows he is The X Man.
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What, you mean he’s not actually Colonel Batguano??
I mean he’s not actually Christopher Zeeman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Zeeman
Fakest linked-in entry ever:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-zeeman-a8bb32176/
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Fake LinkedIn to find the identity of ZBlog readers.
Fed honeypot confirmed.
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His name is Robert Paulson.
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In death, a member of project mayhem has a name.
Thirty years of practicing law convinced me to trust no one whom you don’t know extremely well, and be skeptical even of those you’ve known for years…I read Z-man for his content, and he’s no grifter, he lays it on the line these days..Whereas Ann Coulter, for example, has made it clear in recent months that she has taken the ticket….,
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Disinformation is a two-way street. Smarter, not harder.
Someone has to point it out. I guess the task falls to me.
(I take a deep breath and fix my determination.)
Z Man has a big beard. Draw your own conclusions.
This Jack Murphy drama will be a great episode to point to in the future to explain how easy it is for a faker to be propped up and amass a (seemingly) large audience and name recognition in rightwing circles. If you look at the “Jack Murphy Live” youtube you will see that his viewership is a bit lower than one would expect.
He really does check every possible box, making him a great example: he’s a “Goldman” who claims to be white, he has a public and recent history of multiple flavors of sexual degeneracy, he worked in finance in DC, and he was supported by the “prestigious” Claremont institute, which if I’m not mistaken is part of the wider Peter Thiel operation. A couple of months ago during the Anti-CRT crowd’s debate around the phrase “anti-White”, he was even pulling the “what even is White? I’m Irish, Dude” on Twitter (classic fellow white maneuver).
I would recommend his interview with Curtis Yarvin and Michael Anton (of the Claremont Institute). Both of these guys are very smart, though they come off as too flowerful and academic to really communicate effectively to the “Jack Murphy” audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC0jWF42CI
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ZMan
With respect to the Taki article;
“Have we always this number of crazy people?”
The short answer is no. Natural selection did its part in protecting those who wanted to survive from those who got in the way.
In the past, there were institutions that people could be shuffled off to, without arresting them. This is a major part of the problem in big cities, where the mentally ill are among us, causing crime and havoc. Heartless you say? No, reality.
In the end, my boiler plate response to Covidians who try to confront me with their chastisement is. “I don’t participate in other people’s delusions”.
If their hair doesn’t catch on fire, it takes too long for them to sort out what I said, and I’m gone.
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The beauty of the internet is that the ‘marks’ can talk to each other and outgrow the grifters. The manosphere has its fakes, and maybe their point was to lead men away, but the fakes will never be able to keep control.
The risk is that if you get enough MGTOW, you’ll end up with a right wing antifa, i.e., professional rabble. Otoh if those men are smart enough to avoid the trap, it could boomerang.
Point being that chaos can be used by tptb, or it can be used against them. If the DR is developing a healthy skepticism, that’s good news indeed.
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That may last less time than you think.
https://www.bbc.com/beyondfakenews/trusted-news-initiative/
This will obviously solidify into further enforcement incentives/punishments for hosting and ISPs around the west.
In many ways its no different than the same agreements among medical licensing boards by around the world for “medical misinformation”.
The salience of this post is that it is an anecdotal example of what happens when the environment no longer culls the dysfunctional from the gene pool.
Once upon a time, fraudulent members of our species were either eaten by a predatory animal (because stupid), exiled by the tribe (because untrustworthy), or “disappeared” when no one was looking (because urgency of remedy).
In our modern era, the legal system (and its handmaiden, the prison system) was supposed to perform this necessary curative function for the benefit of society. But nowadays, DC pols and oligarchs get a pass on all things illegal. The solution to this problem is the emergence of grassroots antibodies targeting the core of the disease.
It really is that simple.
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But there is also a social aspect missing, namely a society that works together to create something where there is a man for every woman and vice versa. There is always a pecking order where the better guys get the pick of the litter, but then there are always the last of the litter. They would find someone too. They all would marry and make babies and keep the ball rolling. It’s obvious that feminism told many of these women who wanted a Mercedes Benz of a man but would have to settle for a Jetta to ignore all of that social pecking order stuff and instead aim their sights for a career. And everything fell to pieces.
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The pandemic has been very bad for 30-something career women. Many are have crippling depression and are lonely. They’re starting to settle for beta or lower males, guess it’s better than living alone with a dog. I’ve even seen some average – below average ethnic (indian, arab?) men moving in on childless, damaged career chasers.
As with everything else the media image is a lie. A super-Chad, liberal, urban white male like Sex in the City doesn’t really exist. The more attractive white men are blue collar, rural, or settle down after college and move to the suburbs and commute. It’s not 1980 anymore – big cities are sh*tholes and white men can’t even get hired at most big companies.
The best beta bux are conservative Christian white men.
Tl;dr all media is fake and your life will suffer negative consequences if you believe it.
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Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned The Mankind Project, very active in the aughts and teens. The movement derived from the work of Robert Bly (“Iron John”) and Joseph Campbell’s “Hero of a Thousand Faces” which was the focus of our church men’s group for a year. (Church men’s groups abound.)
The Mankind Project and its initiatory New Warrior Weekend appealed to those of us middle class, leftish, suburban, university educated men/males raised, as noted, in a feminized culture, especially, as noted, to those of us who had weak, abusive or non-existent fathers themselves the sons of the fifties Organization Men in their gray flannel suits. The movement has/had good intentions and some good effect. Fraternity but more than that: an emphasis on personal honor and integrity and finding a place for onself in our feminized society in which, to quote the bumper stiucker of some years ago, “a wman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.”
Again, as mentioned, in a healthy culture such groups and movements wouldn’t be needed to fill a masculine gap. But that’s not the culture from which many of us emerged.
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There was a book that a firefighter friend gave me years ago called “Iron John” that was by a poet of some sort but the author wrote the book to condemn the fact that men were becoming such sissies and what this portended for the world at large. It came out in the 1980’s, I believe, and the writer was a huge into Jungian archetypes etc. He was sort of a proto-Jordan Peterson.
Anyway, firefighter friend wanted me to start attending these meetup groups where we were all supposed to get together and talk through our problems of being men. He let me know it would get intense. Participatory tears were expected if not encouraged. When I said I didn’t have any such problems, he turned it back on me saying that was precisely why I needed to attend. As Rooster Cogburn would say, “This was woman talk.” and me my friend don’t talk too much anymore. This was early 2000’s.
Much as I rag on him, my friend had his heart in the right place, I guess. He was not trying to grift and have people pay him money or try and teach degeneracy. What struck me then was that this problem many men had of being men. Our grandfathers had no such issues. Generation by generation, the confidence faded.
That’s the best that can be said about the PUA blogs back when. They tried to teach some men how to get better. Too bad it was tied up with PUA but that’s what young men want to learn. Little surprise that many of the writers went on to learn to hate what this world has become.
What’s sad is that there are still men out there still lost enough to pay idiots like Murphy money to teach them…what? As Z says, maybe this is the start of a new chapter…new leaders will come to the forefront.
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The manosphere grifters (along with other types of grifters) are so easy to spot. Having an enormous beard, drinking whiskey, eating rare steaks, or being promiscuous (often with desperate 2nd and 3rd world gold diggers) doesn’t automatically make you a super manly man. In fact it seems more like the ultra-masculine corners of the homosexual “community” than any kind of normal male behavior. These are just empty phonies selling caricatures of “manliness” to confused and desperate men.
Caricature is the big thing to look for – it happens when whoever is trying to “blend in” with us doesn’t actually know how. Kind of like the Jussie Smollett case. A redneck shouting “this is MAGA country” and throwing a noose at him is pure caricature of what Jussie *thinks* white men do.
It’s a really sad state of affairs that so many young white men are being raised with negative or absent father figures. The cycle continues today, lots of whipped looking white guys walking around with their woman everywhere. Guys getting married just for access to sex (or so they think).
The PUA / redpill forums are useful for breaking out of the beta mindset. I learned from it, incorporated some of the good stuff into my life, became more successful with women and assertive in life in general, and moved on. I like women, but I also have my own stuff to work on. The types who don’t move on, and pay 100$/month for some forum or go to Asia to fulfill their promiscuous dreams, are either losers or sex addicts. It’s not a sustainable lifestyle long term, as RooshV found out.
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Exactly. The grifters stuck with the same message forever, trying to suck as much money out people as possible. The ones that were sincere about their message realized that it wasn’t a path to a fulfilling life and moved on, usually to the DR.
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Say what you will about the manosphere, but it was VERY IMPORTANT to my life and the lives of a lot of men of a certain age. So many of us went through our formative years, absolutely CLUELESS about women to the point of being incels.
Through the prose of Heartiste, I discovered the sad tale of George Sodini and how I never wanted that to happen to me. Through Neil Strauss book “The Game” I finally figured out the pretty elementary truth about women and how to act with them and finally get some points on the board.
And that first glimmer of truth about women, lead to a wildfire of light being shed on the lies about EVERYTHING in this world.
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did you ever consider hiring escorts, or surrogates?
I’ll give credit to RamZPaul. He called that the man-o-sphere stuff would morph into white nationalism, at least for the guys who were serious about it. It was a natural progression, and he was right.
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Goldman, huh? Man, those Amish are such troublemakers!
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He is probably a pedo too…