This is the Fourth of July weekend, the high point of the summer and theoretically the most America holiday of the year. Thanksgiving is probably the most American holiday, but the usual suspects have been gnawing away at it. July 4th is expressly a holiday for celebrating what it means to be American. It is the one day of the year when normal people are allowed to be nationalistic and patriotic. You are even allowed to say nice things about the white people who founded the country.
It is hard to know, but it seems that patriotism is on the wane. The days of retail shops decorating themselves with red, white and blue colors are gone. They no longer run sales around the holiday. The media seems to be ignoring the holiday this year, despite the fact their cult controls the formal government. Back in the Obama years they took this time to tell us that the strange man with the Muslim name was actually Abraham Lincoln reincarnated. This year it is silence.
Back in the Bush years, white people were super-patriotic. The crusade against Islam was the main reason. After the end of the Cold War, white people were desperate for an enemy and the usual suspects were happy to oblige. That may have been when patriotism started to decline. By the end of the Bush years many people thought their civic nationalism had been exploited for illicit purposes. The last twenty years have largely confirmed those suspicions.
Of course, patriotism has always been a white thing. Black people are the least patriotic for obvious reasons. The origin story of black people is probably enough to prevent great loyalty to the country. There is no getting around the fact that blacks were brought here against their will. Even though Africans in America live like kings relative to Africans in Africa, the resentment is part of black identity. Therefore, the decline in patriotism is all about white people.
The steady decline in white patriotism can also be rooted in the antiwhite pogroms that have become a feature of America. Every ad maker complies with the edict to erase all white faces from their ads. The exception is the race mixing ads and when they use a white man as an object of ridicule. Movies and television shows have not gone quite so far, but the antiwhite messaging is still there. Of course, politics is drenched in antiwhite rhetoric from the Left with conservatives nodding along.
It is a weird thing to see the regime demanding everyone accept high food and fuel prices as the price to pay for democracy. The implication is that paying the price for bad policy decisions is our patriotic duty. White people can be forgiven for thinking this is just a joke at our expense. The regime is laughing at us. Why would white people make any sacrifices to a regime that calls us evil? Why would anyone be loyal to a system that has produced this corrupt regime?
According to a recent poll, most people think the government is corrupt and a quarter are open to an armed revolt. Interestingly, the reason for this is in the text of that Guardian story. “This deadly attack on the US Capitol stemmed from the false, partisan, pro-Donald Trump belief that Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election. Rioters attempted to thwart certification of the election, in an effort to keep Trump in office.” This degree of lying naturally makes people want to revolt.
This raises the question as to whether patriotism is possible in this age. Back in the Bush years the media was biased against “conservatives” so naturally “conservatives” were patriotic as a way to oppose the liberal media. There seemed to be a line between the media and the political class, even if the media favored one side. Now only a simpleton thinks the media is anything but the voice of the ruling class. As a result, we are constantly reminded of their corruption.
If it is no longer possible for a rational person to feel any loyalty to the nation, then what will hold the country together? In the book After Nationalism: Being American in an Age of Division, Samuel Goldman looks for a new way to unify the nation. Here is a good summary from Chronicles. Goldman describes the three prior unifying identities as the covenant, the crucible and the creed. These were the large frameworks in which patriotic loyalty was cultivated.
There is plenty to dispute in that description, but what the Chronicles review makes clear is that there is no obvious fourth option. The only way to arrive at something close to a civil society again is by first removing the people in charge of the political and cultural institutions. The crazies currently in charge are not going to be talked out of their positions and they are not going to sacrifice themselves for the common good, so that means physically removing them from power.
This is why the regime is so desperate to break up anything that looks like self-organizing by normal people. They understand better than most Americans that the only thing preventing a revolt is confusion in the masses. It is why they remain haunted by the January 6th events. Their determination to put Trump in jail is viewed by them as a matter of self-preservation. It is why the bigots have been enlisted to start attacking Christians who question the regime.
The fact is, the system holds together only if the majority population has no sense of identity at all. Patriotism focuses too much attention on the institutions and the people running them, so that cannot be allowed. Regional, religious or racial identity, at least among the majority population, is dangerous, so it is forbidden. The nature of minority rule is that it must make sure the majority never agrees on anything. Division is now the new creed of the American empire.
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I was thinking that how can anyone be celebrating independence from the distant past when in the current we are living under tyranny. Might as well should be celebrating Zeus, that’s how irrelevant this holiday has become.
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hahaha i swear i was just thinking that an offering to Zeus makes as much sense as celebrating the 4th!
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“The only way to arrive at something close to a civil society again is by first removing the people in charge of the political and cultural institutions”
Mrs. Noname and her friends are all fired up to “vote harder” this fall. My 12 year old asked her what was new with that Lin Wood fellow she used to talk about.
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It’s worst than irrelevant. Its insulting.
“Come on and celebrate your “Freedom” you stupid proles” is the message I get.
I am uninspired to do anything except to reach for a weapon.
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‘Regional, religious or racial identity, at least among the majority population, is dangerous, so it is forbidden.’
No reason for white people to feel patriotic (in the sense of fealty to the state) when the state so clearly works against their interests and impoverishes and enfeebles them. An American acquaintance of mine once opined that the US state held together as long as there was prosperity. When that prosperity is a fading memory and the state squeezes its people to maintain the facade of empire for a privileged few, then patriotism goes out the window.
For me the situation is reminiscent of the late 19th and early 20th century Ottoman Empire: the rot and decline was palpable. The glory days of Suleiman the Magnificent were a distant memory. The question was what would take its place. And that turned out to be ethno-nationalist Turkey. Likewise for the USA: it will splinter into smaller states, some (all?) of which will be along ethno-nationalist lines. This is something white people can surreptitiously plan for.
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For our elites, patriotism is just a tool in their grift, to be used to fool the marks. That their fraud will destroy the very nation that supports them is the least of their concerns.
Happily, Nemesis, the Goddess of Retribution, waits, impatiently, to punish the hubris of the proud and foolish
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Canada’s the same. And today is our national holiday, so I can observe first-hand how dead the appeal of patriotism is here in the capital. I think what holds us together now is just some sort of “Pay me” attitude. It’s like being stuck in a job you hate just for the paycheque. The Mall of America has become America the Mall. People are here just for the goodies, such as they are.
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and that is the fatal flaw in the GAE plan; they cannot provide enough goodies. people here for the gibs are well versed in rioting to get what you want. they won’t allow the GAE to rule onfce the gibs run out.
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Waving the flag, singing the anthem and shooting fireworks on July 4th is not in itself nationalism or patriotism, but an expression thereof. You wave the flag BECAUSE you are a patriot, not to conjure up patriotism.
Denmark has virtually none of such ado yet nationalist parties poll around 25% – no need for pageantry when you’re living in a white ethnostate where patriotism is taken for granted. The only people who celebrate Constitution Day are politicians – old politicians at that; the young ones are 100% globalist creatures.
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Connecting dots.
Economic hardship begets desperation, which begets whining first and then action second when whining fails. For most, this progression will be street protests evolving into riots and mayhem in the cities. In suburban and rural areas, men will unite in militias and talk seriously of armed action. DC and local authorities will respond by unleashing LEOs, NGs, and Jackboots. As in Ukraine, white guys will start killing white guys in large numbers. Cloud People will smile at the deaths of competent alphas on both sides.
That is one potential scenario. It leaves a lot of dead bodies in its wake.
Or perhaps, the disease cells choose to leave when provided with a little motivation. Motivation borne of nobody in particular, unnoticed in the fog, unexpected, and impromptu. Smarter, not harder.
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well maybe some of those white people need killing. not every sperm is precious, contra Monty Python.
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Goldman describes the three prior unifying identities as the covenant, the crucible and the creed. There is plenty to dispute in that description, but what the Chronicles review makes clear is that there is no obvious fourth option.
Goldmansteinberg forgot to mention race.
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Yes, I would have never read further past that name.
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Goldbergsilverstein wanted to add unlimited financial and military support to Israel as a unifying identity but did not have the balls.
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Yes. That and koksokking.
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The point of the statement was that there is no obvious fourth option TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY. 40% of the country is non-white off the bat. At least half of the white population sees the idea of white identity as evil. White conservatives often have religious or regional identities that are stronger than any generic white identity. This makes white identity has a non-starter as something that can unify the country. Again, that’s the point of the comment. White identity could at best used as the basis for a factional movement within a multi-racial society, like black nationalism or other kinds of identity politics. This point is obvious and is often repeated by white nationalists themselves.
You people have no critical reading skills and think if it rains on a day you were planning on going for a picnic there’s some vast Jewish conspiracy behind it.
Patriotism is a function of an individual’s birthplace, the home of his ancestors. The French are French patriots, the Turks are Turk patriots and so on. For any one individual it’s an accident of birth, there’s no other reason except that governments encourage the idea. That’s why treason is a crime.
Unlike Americans, most of the rest of the world’s population realizes that the guys minding the store are crooks and thieves so their patriotism is focused far in the past. To some extent this is true of the Yankees as well but they are so naive as to regard the goofy outcomes of the so-called democratic process as making their patriotism legitimate. That does seem to be a fading phenomenon.
Interesting how people confuse governments with nations.
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I disagree that patriotism is a function of an individuals birthplace.
I know people from Greece who while proud to be Greek are American patriots. Same with some Korean folks I know and even a Russian.
Patriotism is a result of love for ones country regardless of where he was born. Sadly, so many Americans hate patriotism like they hate God. I call them leftists.
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No. They may love America, but that is not patriotic. One can only be patriotic for his own *patria*, the land of his father.
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Hoagie: They may claim to love their version of “America,” but it’s not the heritage nation the holiday claims to celebrate, and the heritage people who founded said country would regard it as absurd to call them fellow Americans.
Pride in their ethnic or racial heritage is not an inherently bad thing – but only when resident in their own heritage nations. In AINO, it means further dissolution of what historic America purportedly stood for and meant, and further disenfranchisement of its heritage people.
yes. Hyphen American patriotism does not exist. Americans have long been huffing the grateful rejoices of various invaders making good on the American Dream of economic success while their own posterity is replaced, co-opted, and hypothecated into oblivion. (The Chamber of Commerce Approves this message)
Being thankful – and even grateful, for a nation that has opened its borders and bounty and goodwill to outsiders is a nice thing to demonstrate, but it is too often conflated by Heritage Americans with the duty and reverence for the People which made that all possible. Very different things.
No, normal countries understand that they are a people and that the country is only valid because it represents the abstract version of themselves. They don’t need to flee to the past, they just don’t follow the institutional line about the “new patriotism”. They are not nearly as conflicted about the current thing because it does not counter the physical reality of the people as nation.
The US is not a people so Americans have invested their patriotism into abstract forms like the flag, or Liberty etc which becomes a problem when the institutions and people who interpret the meaning of these abstract symbols deicde they represent a different narrative.
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Correct. But you can only divide and conquer so much – after a certain point people become so divided and fractious that a war of unification has to be fought.
Best of luck on the battlefield fellas. May their body counts be high.
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I know lol
It’s like an historical holiday from a time that was eons ago. I think the cavemen celebrated the 4th of July. But I can’t remember. Been so long since we read about in school.
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There’s a laday a few doors down with the iconic “We believe in this house” lawn sign that diligently updates her decorations with whatever secular holiday is the current thing. On Juneteenth she had her BLM decorations out, for the rest of pride month she had diligently updated the flag to the newest intersectional type that looks like someone vomited a paint kit. Her car is also diligently decorated with the latest bumper stickers and slogans.
If partriotism means love of country, she’s the most patriotic woman in our neighborhood.
Other people try to wave American flags, shoot fireworks, and other passe items, but their patriotism might as well be to Narnia than a real country. They are starting to get the same reaction as people who post stale memes from ages ago.
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All the people who regularly fly the flag in my neightborhood are just bugmen. Amazon and fedex deliveries everyday and driving a block to Walgreens. Never even seen one go for a walk or bike ride.
I’ll bet inside they have the full cable package.
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I noticed on the boob tube they were tasked with bridging pride month and its celebrations with the 4th of July as if trying to fashion it into one patriotic continuum. We beat the Brit’s then and we beat the bigots now. Yay! Time to celebrate.
So 4th of July is now an LGBTQ holiday
They’re probably the only ones who will be celebrating it
“Other people try to wave American flags, shoot fireworks, and other passe items, but their patriotism might as well be to Narnia than a real country.”
It is, for more and more of those types, a big “fuck you” to the Regime.
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I lost track of what all the different colors of the flag represent. Why don’t the freaks just fly a Jackson Pollock painting instead? Seems to me that should cover every possible type of degeneracy.
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I have three “American Flags”. My father is a Vietnam combat vet suffering through Parkinson’s disease due to being doused with tons of agent Orange. I was a very patriotic man in my 30s. Now? I more apt to use the flag as a butt wipe than display it. This country is a foreign land. I do not recognize it and I have no love for it. The “America” I once knew is long gone and she is never coming back. I’ve accepted that now. Yes, I’ve grown to be hate-filled and I’ve had enough of the feral negros destroying everything in their path. The little brown men I now see everywhere with their dirty clothes and slovenly look. It’s all so tiresome. The Fourth of July is just another day off work for me now. For me, it’s all about patiently waiting for the day I have to defend my loved ones. I am both fearful of and looking forward to that day. Any “country” that tears down the statues of serious men to erect statues of low IQ, criminal negros is no country I feel any love towards. I will enjoy my day off and that’s it.
On a side note, my band plays a country club Fourth of July party every year. The club is 99% white, wealthy conservatives. A few members of my band are lefties. They always insist that I play the star spangled banner, Jimi Hendrix style. I literally have to force myself to do it. It just doesn’t do anything for me anymore. Sad indeed.
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the root cause of America’s demise is the decline in quality of the white population. until that is addressed, things will continue on the path they are on…
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A little OT, but over in Texas someone must be injecting testosterone to the GOP elite while they’re sleeping.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/texas-republicans-declare-biden-election-illegitimate-despite-evidence-2022-06-19/
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-secede-us-2023-gop-pushes-referendum-1717254
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1542658021620342788
There’s a lot more like these too.
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In 2025 Trump will be POTUS, Stephen Miller and Kris Kobach will have major White House roles, the GOP will have somewhere between 55-60 Senators, and pressure from the increasingly nationalist House Republicans will lead to something like the RAISE Act becoming law. Take the whitepill.
We have small kids, I have struggled with how I am going to instill a love and respect in them for the historic American nation, while making sure they understand they owe the current government no respect or loyalty whatsoever. I want to understand what has been lost.
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I check all the correct boxes for someone who should be very patriotic: Southern, White, veteran, etc. Yet for some reason, this year I don’t think I even want to put the flag out on the 4th. Just not feeling it, you know?
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They’re morphing it into a gay holiday.
Your instincts are good if you aren’t feeling it anymore. It’s not a holiday for you or me anymore.
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Friend at an airline showed me a union update about their pilots picketing, contract negotiations, day to day stuff, etc. Their union’s sole purpose is contact negotiation and enforcement.
But there’s a whole section on the 1969 Stonewall Riots in NYC for ??? Reasons.
Robert Conquest’s 3 laws of politics proven right again. Everything has to be fake and gay now.
Nothing is faker or gayer than the US of A. Fly a rainbow flag non-ironically on July 4, because it’s more authentic than any
E pluribus unum nostalgia.
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“Daddy was a veteran, a Southern Democrat, you oughtta get a rich man to vote like that”, from Song of the South by Alabama…
I put up my US flag every day through both the Obama and Trump terms. Frankly, didn’t care for either of them, but I loved my country and wanted to share that love with my sons.
Flag came down after the January 6 protestors went home and Biden was installed. It is not going back up
Mr. Falcone writes succinctly below, “how do you celebrate freedom when you are living in a tyranny?”
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I have a simple formulation.*
I love Heritage Americans and Heritage America.
I hate and look forward to the destruction of the United States.
*As far as America and Americans. I am a Southerner so not really one of them although my roots are in them and their people. I live in occupied land and will live to see it liberated and my children and grandchildren a free people.
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Jack Dobson: Hear, hear. Well said.
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I have fully embraced the use of Heritage in place of patriot.
While I still use patriot, it is in the context of my heritage and not that of the FUSA skinsuit.
To serve my people and to celebrate and propagate the heritage of my people is patriotic because my nation IS my people.
In the war on our people, the power of using ‘heritage’ is far better than that of patriot, for I have found it has much greater depth and meaning and thus stirs into those depths in the slumbering hearts of our people when they hear it.
Patriotism, OTOH, is like voting in that it is merely a matter of the proper paperwork – and even then, the ridiculousness of this is laid bare if one dares to ask for such paperwork which is of course now raciss.
The street shitters that run the local gas station can hang flags and banners and be patriotic to the passers-by. But only Heritage Americans can ponder their own roots and that of our nation and feel the inextricable bonds of those same roots in the soil underfoot.
And in being reminded to call upon their heritage they should also feel that which has been lost and what must be preserved – and be stirred by that, which is far better than to be stirred by some platitudes of patriotism while the smell of curry and fabuloso singes the demographic reality of decades of paperwork patriotism.
Here in my small Southern town the fireworks show includes that garbage “patriotic” music from Tony Keith and Lee Greenwood. I grit my teeth and try to keep from swearing out loud.
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I went to one in the early Bush years and whoever picked the music for it was so oblivious the first song they played was Fortunate Son. I couldn’t help but laugh. I wonder if the national display in Washington will still feature the symphony playing the 1812 Overture this year. Will Tchaikovsky be banned along with all other things Russian?
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That Toby Keith song, “Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue” doesn’t quite hold up anymore, not after watching the disastrous conclusion of the Empire’s Afghan Expedition, does it?
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I really like Toby Keith, but his over-the-top patriotism in this day and age just doesn’t wear well. As a matter of fact, I think he actually wrote a sort of anti-patriotism song in either ‘20 or ‘21 and tied it to covid or the lockdowns or some such, but I could be wrong.
Carl B.: If you can avoid alienating anyone you consider critical, then just don’t go. By your own words, there’s nothing worth celebrating in the AINO of today and faux piety towards the mythic America of yesterday is enough to make anyone swear.
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Celebrate your independence this year by being forced to get a Vaxx!
Limited time only.
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25% ready for armed revolt is good news. The imbalance of power is too great to overcome in all political and economic areas to overcome, and a civil war is likely our only option for survival. Despite the failure of Trump and the emboldening of our enemies, there have been many positive developments since 2015.
-The red tribe/blue tribe bifurcation is almost complete. Red Tribe has broken free of blue media and established their own healthy, thriving media.
-There have also been limited successes with establishing Red payment processors. Rittenhouse and the Trucker convoy were successfully funded despite heavy-handed attempts to shut them down.
-The convoy and Jan 6 showed that the Red tribe has become organized and angry enough to riot, and also taught them that unarmed rioting on enemy territory doesn’t work.
-The economy has finally crapped out is likely to get much worse. Many people used to say that Americans were too comfortable to revolt. Now the price of meat has doubled in a year, with only 8% inflation.
-A series of hoaxes and frauds has destroyed Red Tribe’s remaining trust in institutions, and also interest in maintaining those institutions.
-Military failures in Afghanistan and the Ukraine show the weakness of the US military. Everyone sees the incompetence of the leaders, the wokeness, deteriorating readiness, and slackening recruitment.
-After the election hoax, the Red Tribe felt demoralized, but the recent string of victories, including the almost unthinkable Dobbs win, has raised spirits and energy levels. Ultimate victory seems possible and many Red Tribe members are starting to fantasize of future previously unthinkable victories.
I see three remaining obstacles to civil war.
-Other than social/news media, the Red Tribe has not set up alternative institutions. There is no major Red Tribe bank, hollywood, netflix, web hosting, etc. This is an astounding and perplexing failure.
-The secret police. A feature of the panopticon is not just that they can always be watching, it’s that you must also assume they’re watching when they aren’t. This is enormously chilling, even for de jure “legal” activity. I can’t think of any way that this could change.
-There is no leadership, especially leadership we could really count on to take us through hard times. This is possibly the work of the secret police. It is exacerbated by our lack of alternative institutions, which have the secondary role of developing leadership skills in their managers.
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Regarding leadership, like the boys say: he who dares, wins.
78: Just whom do you consider to be part of your ‘red tribe’? If you are referring to conservatards, their “healthy, thriving media” is CTH, or Breitbart. If you are referring to the dissident right, many of whom have been banned from the aforementioned sites for mentioning the unreality of race. Yes – we have our ‘own’ media, but always at risk of cancellation.
Your red payment processors were hacked and were, indeed, shut down. It is unclear to me just how much of the donated money ever made to the Canadian truckers, and how much of that went to the actual working drivers rather than the organizers. Many of those who participated are still being legally persecuted and are Canada’s equivalent of the Jan 6 protesters in AINO.
Most conservatards still maintain full faith in the institutions you claim they have abandoned. They still wave around the constitution, fly their flags, and insist a constitutional convention will set everything aright once again. Military recruitment is down – that is definitely a positive – but conservatards still reflexively parrot “Thank you for your service” to anyone who claims any military service in any capacity, anywhere, any time. Long live the empire!
What you term the “Dobbs win” may have been a moral good, but will have decidedly mixed social repercussions. And to consider a decision by a court that just swore in a dreadlocked sh&*oon as a member to be some signal of societal vigor and hope for “ultimate victory” (whatever that means to you) is absurd.
I question every one of your declarations and assumptions. It’s unclear who you consider to be part of the simplistic dual split in AINO and what you consider a real victory to actually be. Yes, the economy is tanking. Will that get people uncomfortable enough to actually consider doing something? Will they be able to organize or will they be ratted out by their law abiding neighbors or woke children, and picked off one by one? The only certain thing about the future is that it is going to be much worse, in the short term.
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“Red Tribe” is not a term I invented, and I think that the meaning of the term is obvious to most people. Playing lumper/splitter word games is not productive.
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78: I don’t play word games; I respect the true meaning of words too much for that, along with most of the regular commenters here as well. The fact that you use the term ‘splitter’ as a weapon indicates to me you are probably part of the “they shall not divide us” crowd. I’ll pass.
Divide et Impera is the only way to rule an empire.
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If you don’t pay the electric bill, your power eventually gets shut off. Are tptb too dense to understand that, or are they going broke?
Maybe overestimating, but I think Americans would suffer for the right reasons. Look at covid compliance, thinking it was saving lives. Even that, though, involved money.
Building your society on economic relations is building on sand. This thing, whatever it is, was never a nation. Was there a nation before it? Hard to say. What can you trust?
I trust my instincts. Call them culture, blood— whatever they are. But they’re there, and they tell me, Yes, you have an identity, but it’s been submerged.
For that reason alone, I’ll be firing up the grill, saluting the flag, enjoying fireworks, and praying for a return this weekend.
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“The crazies currently in charge are not going to be talked out of their positions and they are not going to sacrifice themselves for the common good, so that means physically removing them from power.”
Man, when 1/4 of everyone is thinking like this, it opens up space to speak the words.
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My patriotism was diagnosed as terminal during the scroatbomba years and gave up the ghost during Trump. The final nail was the bogus election and I ditched the flag. As long as this dirtbag government remains in place, it won’t see the light of day.
Further, if we continue down this insane path, juneteenth will become the “real” independence day and kwanza the “real” Christmas. As for Thanksgiving, it’ll be honored with fried chicken, black eyed peas and carved watermelon, ie., jack ‘o napes.
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There should be a worldwide Day of Ridicule for our leaders in both government and media. With an emphasis on warmongers. When I was a kid the night before Halloween was Devil’s Night. That’s when kids would take revenge on mean girls, bad neighbors, and a-hole teachers. By egging their houses. Smashing their pumpkins. Teepeeing their trees with toilet paper. And if drunk running over their mailboxes. It could be a reverse 4th of July. Maybe on July 3rd.
Or better yet, have October’s Devils’ Night turn political. The tradition would be to egg or tomato any media person or politician seen on the street that day. Pigs would be the holiday symbol. Mean capitalist-looking pigs like Orwell created and Pink Floyd floated above the crowd in their concerts. Black Sabbath’s “War Pigs”, and other metal anti-war songs would be the holiday songs pumping from cars all day and night.
Instead of inflated black cats from Walmart on lawns. People would place military-like coffins draped in American flag in their yard. But no, that’s too edifyingly romantic. We’ve had enough of that Memorial Day crap.
Instead of witches and black cats…bloody pigs. Or people could place mannequins in their yards and disfigure them with blood and guts and arms blown off. Or families could ghoul themselves up as maimed servicemen and lay on their lawns like dead soldiers. Or squirm around like near-dead soldiers writhing in pain looking for their severed limbs.
Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
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“Their determination to put Trump in jail is viewed by them as a matter of self-preservation.”
In 2016 I was shocked when Trump was elected. Believing, as I do, that one of the things TPTB would never let slip away is the election of the President, I wondered how it was going to play out. I’ll admit, I sort of felt he might have actually slipped through the cracks and TPTB had misread something. I wasn’t so much a fan of Trump, but I viewed him as being opposed by people I knew were either traitors or mentally damaged. I watched him avoid impeachment and gave more credence to his small “victories” than they really warranted. But, his constant selection of swamp creatures over 4 years, his promotion of the vax, and his blowing off standing up about obvious and documentable election fraud, convinced me that he was never really against TPTB. He was just a stalking horse, part of the dialectic. He is the Emanuel Goldstein for the left they can scream about in their 2 minute hate. He is the beloved Big Brother for some of the right. He has avoided all forms of prosecution for 6 years and this latest joke just keeps him in the public eye. He is just opening up a political franchise for his sons, so they can continue the Trump “legacy” and rake in plenty of shekels.
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What would we do with these people? Moldbug says they need to be honorably retired and paid pensions. This is absolutely impossible, especially if they wil be replaced. He uses Nazi Germany as an example. All Nazi government workers were allowed to stay on and transition to the new government or retire with pension if they were at retirement age.
Even if these people didn’t hate us, there are far too many of them to keep paying after the empire fell. Pre-pandemic we were spending over 8 trillion dollars (all levels, not just federal). We have millions of people working for the state and millions more who only work because of the state. We have 700,000 cops alone. I don’t know if that number even includes all state employees with arresting powers. Another 1.4 million in the military. Pretty much all of DC and much of the surrounding area live off the federal government. Will not be able to afford to even keep them in a prison plus generate a new but smaller class of “elite” and their servants (cops and the like). We already employ 400,000 prison guards.
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