Dissident Thoughts

Years ago I did a show on what it means to be on the dissident right, but it was long enough ago to revisit the topic. Back when I did the show, hardly anyone used the term so it was a different conversation than today, when lots of people use it. In fact, far too many people recklessly throw around the label. Just because you got booted from your Facebook group for using the N-word does not make you a dissident.

What you see is lots of people who used to claim the label alt-right having stopped using that now discredited term and picking up this new label. Their opinions have not changed and their understanding has not changed. They just needed a new label so they scanned around and found one that had not be ruined yet. In many cases, these people have no coherent politics at all, just grievances.

Labels are important, especially in politics. The words in the label bring meaning and connotation, but the label should have its own definition. The white nationalists are not simply people who are white and patriotic. Hitler was white and a nationalist, but no educated person would call Hitler a white nationalist. The label white nationalist has meaning that transcends the words in the label.

Therein lies the danger with labels. The white nationalists have allowed the bad guys to define the label they use. It was not all their fault, as the bad guys control the organs of cultural production, so they were able to define the label. That said, the many wackos who have been allowed to use the label white nationalist have made it easy for the bad guys to anathematize the term by soaking it with their vitriol.

That is why it is important to control your language. This was one of the many errors made by the alt-right. They never bothered to provide a clear definition of what they meant by an alternative right. This allowed every weirdo and goofball looking for a home to lay claim to the label. If they had put some effort into defining their labels and controlling who used it, they would have avoided the weirdo problem.

That is the gist of the show this week. What it means to be a dissident in this time and place, as well as what it means to be dissident right. I have also sprinkled in some of the things I talked about at AmRen, so the people who were there will recognize some of the things at the end. This is a topic that could probably be made into some useful posts down the road.


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Contents

  • Inspiration
  • Labels
  • What It Means To Be A Dissident
  • Dissent From What?
  • The Dissident Right
  • The Dissident Vision

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108 thoughts on “Dissident Thoughts

  1. “Hitler was white and a nationalist, but no educated person would call Hitler a white nationalist.”

    Really? It seems like he’s the pure strain archetype WN example for the for the liberally edumacated.

    • I dunno, if Mr. Hitler were alive in Argentina and he ran for office now, I can only assume that WNs would hitch their wagon to him toot-sweet.

      Besides, A.H. was an Aryan identitarian and a nationalist. How could he not be a WN?

      • White nationalists have no interest in conquest and empire. On the contrary, we are isolationists to the bone. Hitler was a Germanic imperialist who hated non-Germanic whites, particularly Slavs.




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        • Isolationism is geography dependent. If your nation has all the resources it needs and has no threats anywhere near its border, like the USA, then isolationism is obviously the best policy.

          It’s different for Germany. Threats all around, accessible and close. Or at least used to be that way, in the pre EU times, and will one day be that way again, after the EU, if Germany still exists at that point.

          • When I speak of isolation, I don’t mean absolute autarky unless that is possible, which in the vast majority of cases, it won’t be. In other words, I’m not mortally opposed to commerce with other nations. But that’s pretty much where the interchange ends.

    • Hitler was a German nationalist. He didn’t have a high opinion of the Slavs and wasn’t particularly concerned with their well-being.




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      • Yes, he was a German nationalist. You can even push it a bit further and say he was a Nordic nationalist (Germans, Austrians, Scandinavians). White Nationalism is a US thing. Doesn’t have any meaning in Europe.




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    • Yeah, I’m thinking the same…however, Whites in Hitler’s thinking were limited to the concept of “Aryans”. In those times, Aryans = Whites. Indeed, Hitler’s race “scholars” were busy tracing Aryans all the way down to India with the NAZI blessings. So from that view, Hitler might not be a WN as we discuss here.

  2. as usual, this got me thinking. I could wait until I’ve heard the entire post but it occurs to me that defining the group is part of the game. Prager and seth rogan have very recently posted some stunning statements. How is it that they get to “pin the tail on the bigot” but if anyone does it back, well, that’s anti-semetic…like the magic spell only works in one direction. Once the spell is broken (like Kanye seems to have started some kind of trend), it really is remarkable how often the spell is uttered in its various forms. I have to admire just how effective it was…and continues to be.

  3. Ending “Whiteness” (aka – stop noticing) is giving into morons complaining that it’s easier to walk through a field of rakes without injury without the blindfold, they insist the blindfold has nothing to do with their failure. They are too stupid to notice how stupid they are. WEF concepts for 80IQ sound great to non-thinkers, I’m starting to believe that they’re also too stupid to notice that when conditions are infinitely worse, that they won’t notice and indeed will say things are better, ala 1984. Klaus knows his audience and his collection of midwits have enough charisma to fool enough true believers to drive the masses.
    The twitter revelation that there was a fbi stooge vetting what was released on the platform is a decent example of how they do it.

  4. Speaking of dissidents, Z’s crush Kyrsten Sinema just announced she’s leaving the Democrats and becoming an Independent. This is pretty big. The last person to do this was Joe Lieberman I think. Let’s hope she’s not like Joe Lieberman.




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    • She was pushing for amnesty during the last week. I confess that I had some interest and hope for her, but co-sponsoring an amnesty bill makes her anathema.




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      • Some big political website did an interview recently with her where the subject was her describing how she uses her cleavage to get her way with the male Senators. The message of the article was, of course, “You go girl!”

        I want patriarchy, modesty, and curtailment of women’s ability to openly flaunt their looks to get resources. (I understand that this behavior is human nature and is not going away but our forefathers were able to limit its encouragement.)




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        • I have to wonder if she is exaggerating on that one. These men have access to a lot of social climbing good looking young women in their 20s. I am guessing it is 90% in her head.




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          • ‘90% in her head’ is called “reality” for the modern womyn. That she has the moral righteous position to force that reality on the rest of us is called equality. That equality is a moral pursuit beyond question is called Progress. That Progress is the highest law of the land is called Our Democracy. That the greatest threat to Our Democracy is a White Man who submits only to God’s Truth is called Year Zero of the Permanent Revolution, aka the Current Year. That normie dissident-lite thinks he can unwind the Current Year without giving that ‘reality’ the pimp hand is how we have been in the Current Year for 40 years.

        • Because nature has given women tremendous power, the law, rightfully, grants them very little.

          (I believe it was Samuel Johnson who said that.)

    • This move is the equivalent of a woman going from one workout trend to the next – I’m ahhlll like, so intah Yogah. Namasta-ay!

      I think this is Tulsi Gabbard mimicry as in Arizona she realizes she is going to need some separation. She can probably command top dollar going from tv show to tv show speaking as an independent. Speaking of labels, that will give her the semblance

      And for the real reason, her new co-sponsored bill to amnesty millions of illegals and formalize the setup and skid greasing of, “migrant processing centers.” She is here to institutionalize The Great Replacement in a formal and legal manner.

      As an Independent she is now the arbiter of, “compromise.” The only compromise that involves is the further compromise of our people and our position in terms of demographics. She is also a counter to Gabbard who is, it seems closer to our positions. She muddies the waters of what it means to be Independent. She is probably also jockeying for a presidential run. We may see the first ever presidential debate with a candidate in a push up bra, garters and fishnets.

      I am looking forward to the show where discussion of our own candidates, labels and tactical and strategic moves are touched on. We’ve been reactive long enough.




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    • Scrolling Twitter during my morning dump, it appears that she will continue to caucus with the Dems, but this will underscore her firm stance on not ending the filibuster. The argument there was that she was basically harassed out of the party by Squad & Co.

      Also, that this sets her up for an AZ gov run in ’26.

    • Kirsten is a smart lady. She is ambitious and has a long political history in AZ. Folks did not hear from her nationally until she became Senator, but activists here promoting gun rights knew her well. They’d follow her to the grave I suspect. She was the go to person to introduce gun rights legislation at the State level. Under her, we went from no concealed carry to Constitutional carry. AZ now has perhaps the least onerous gun laws in the nation and she was a big part of this—all while running as a Dem.

      My bet is that she sees a national run for President in the future and senses the current “Party system” weakness. She may be like Joe Lieberman in that she has turned IND, but she is no Joe Lieberman in that Lieberman had little ambition further than the Senate at the time of switch, which was in answer to his party’s rejection of him in the primaries.

      Of course, Sinema is aware of her party’s ire wrt her recent voting record, but that’s not shared at the AZ level and a switch to IND tends to had off Dem party pressure on her. She will most likely do like Joe Lieberman and caucus with the Dems. In the current “part run”, polarized political system we’ve experienced for decades now, her move seems strange/suspicious. But when I was young, there were any number of pol’s like her—except they were not forced out of their party for their differences.

    • A large part of it is that Zman has a tendency of goring sacred cows that a large part of the Alt-Right believes in. Thing is, if the Dissident Right is ever to be a political movement, listening to Zman’s critiques are absolutely necessary.

  5. One aspect of this definition of “dissident”/”dissident right” that confuses me is whether it requires activism or whether sole focus on preparation for what comes afterwards would fall under the ambit of the term. I realize the two are not totally mutually exclusive but there seems to be a bright distinction in the sense of facilitating change vs. preparing for it. I believe two things: (a) the system does not work, the system cannot be made to work, and the system is dying naturally (a lot of the recent oppression is a failed attempt to stop this); and (b) nothing can be done to change that trajectory one way or another. Preparing for what comes next seems as much an individual endeavor as a collective one.
    So the question is whether belief alone would suffice. I don’t care how my individual situation is defined, mind you, but as you note definitions do matter. “Prepper” falls far short and is inaccurate, incidentally. As far as the “right” part, furthermore, it seems no longer to matter. Certainly thoughts on economics in that regard have shifted radically.

    • IMO, if you keep to Dissident Right beliefs you are a DR, just as if you subscribe to Marxism you’re a commie, and if you hate the white race you’re a Leftist. What you actually do or don’t do with your beliefs is largely irrelevant.

      • I kind of agree. Belief is the foundation and probably all that matters. The word “dissident” conjures the Soviet versions, who had gravitas and were proactive, hence the reason we know of them. Historical analogies almost always fall short.

        Outside of taking care of ourselves and ours, it seems there are no organizational/political solutions except locally because the State now is even more totalitarian than was the case in the USSR. It is comprehensive enough not to have to resort to violence routinely on a large scale–that could change in a heartbeat, to be clear–but is all-encompassing. Glasnost would be impossible in this era, for example, as Musk is about to find this out.

        Regardless, mentally exiting the system is the step that matters, whether it is the first or a series of many. Thanks for the response.

        • For every Andrei Sakharov there were 5 million nameless Soviet subjects who supported him in spirit. Those anonymous individuals were not as important as Sakharov, but they were dissidents all the same. We can only hope that for every Jared Taylor there are 5 million silent “Americans” who wish him Godspeed.

  6. One of the reasons I do not count myself a dissident – even though I largely agree with them, and can see their side when we disagree – is that we will never have ‘the right people’. Possibly 20% of the people out there will have the wherewithal to follow your logic that explains where you are and why. Any system you come up with will have to take that into account.

    There is nothing wrong with the system. It has built in checks and balances, it spells out crime and punishment. These guys are stealing elections and stabbing heritage Americans in the back in broad daylight – and none of those checks and balances apply. We just sit here and talk. “Don’t anybody fedpoast!!!!”

    I don’t think anything will change until the Boogaloonians start stretching necks, shooting criminals and their cronies in the face, and enforcing the laws that we have on the books to deal with this crap.

    But… whadda I know?




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    • The current regime rests almost wholly on our material prosperity, once the lights start flickering they best, as Z says, start booking one way tickets out of the country.




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    • Glen

      Your conclusion is spot on. I think the treatment of LEOs and their resulting attitude due to said treatment, will allow dirt folk to handle business themselves.
      Once criminal elements realize that the system will be indifferent, actions and attitudes will slowly change.

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I recall a post that went something like this;

      1 Act alone
      2 Tell NO ONE, EVER
      3 You may feel guilty, but it will pass

      There was more, but I think what is there is enough.

      And as Robert Barnes has opined;

      Never in writing, always in cash.

      • The old organized crime saying went something like,
        “Never write something down when you can speak.”
        “Never speak when you can nod.”
        “Never nod when you can look.”

        Our elections / Covid tyranny /clown world runs on the precepts of the mafia.




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        • It was corrupt 19th century Boston politician (but I repeat myself) Martin Lomasney: “Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink.”

    • The problem is the whole system is corrupt. The law has been weaponized and the rot is deep. Different areas of rot reinforce the rot in other areas. The system is not going to reform itself. The levers of reform are corrupt. Furthermore, all of the inertia is in the direction of further corruption, not a course correction.

      Maybe there is hope if we can arrest and incarcerate the top 20% of the corrupt people, but frankly I don’t know if it would work even if we could pull it off.

  7. I hope Jared releases the speech. Going to Amren is off the cards for most people.

    Alt-Right was poisoned from day one by being associated with a media clown like Richard Spencer. He loved nothing more than donning the devil costume and getting on TV and acting like an ass. A lot of stuff came out from Kessler, who was a naive’ goofball IMHO, about Spenser and his deliberately wiping his stink on everyone involved in the dumb “UTR rally” through subpoenas of their phones.

  8. I will go out on a limb at say that for a vision let’s do something like Orban in Hungary. Make it attractive for women to have the option of staying home and make our platform centered around creating a world where one income can support a family again.
    By doing that we attract the right kind of people to our cause and we don’t get a negative label from the start tied to race or ethnicity issues.
    We can address those issues naturally bring those issues along as we grow but focus on something that people want.
    Independence and the means to have a family is a good issue to build around.
    Also this kind of message should attract the kind of women who can be apart of organizing a movement and we don’t just stay a bunch of geeky guys meeting at a conference.




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    • Let me clarify one thing. I don’t believe women should take over leadership roles in politics.
      Men should lead, but we must have a movement where women get something out of it and see something they want.
      A healthy income for their husband and safety for their children are two powerful forces.
      And safety for children bring us into the race issue naturally without forcing it.




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      • G, I’m with you although I have lost some faith that many women will respond to support for staying home and taking care of their kids.

        With regard to the relationship between men and women, I have been recently impressed by two observations: First, how much men over 30 long for a single good woman to support and protect. Second, how overjoyed women are to abandon their traditional role and the family. Oh, and they really love abortion. Most everything I was told about the nature of women is false.




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        • The serpent knew who to work. What I don’t understand is why men, knowing this, still simp. I might understand it if family was still a given, but I’ll say it: sex isn’t THAT good. Not with someone who hates and torments you.

      • Twenty years ago, both sides would aggressively spelled out how their policies would help their families. Of course, they never did, as more and more parents need two incomes and schools become more in shambles with every new dollar spent on them.

        Now both sides rarely talk explicitly about families, and the shocking reality of our demographics shows why. Stable families are becoming more rare, with more and more foregoing marriage altogether, and fertility is cratering at a shocking speed.

        Intact families are now hopelessly outnumbered by barren women and unattached men. What this means for future political policy under the current condition are spiteful mutants explicitly voting to give powers to indoctrinate and take away children of the people who still reproduce.




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        • And factor in the possibility that the Clot Shot has negatively impacted fertility, likely very deliberately, I may add. Evil incarnate.

    • In most of America a family can live about as well on one income today as they could in the 1950s. The catch is you have to have the same standard of living as a 1950s family.

      There are a handful of high cost metros where this probably isn’t possible




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      • Not sure why all the down votes here. There is some truth in this observation. Those of us still around from the 50’s can attest to the lifestyle of the average Joe. It was way below what it is today. I now live in a house with wife that is at least 3x’s larger than the type I grew up in as a child. We had one car, no garage, no dinning room, one bathroom, etc. I now have three cars—all garaged, 3 bathrooms and more bedrooms than ever could be considered needed. Of course, all the maintenance and support costs triple as well.

      • Really? The median income in the US is $37.5K. The average is $58K. I know there are more/less expensive places to live, but most people still need to be able to commute to their jobs which is a limiting factor. If you’re already living paycheck-to-paycheck or on a fixed income in a time of rampant inflation it’s hard to save up to move elsewhere. Throw a few million “immigrants” into the mix each year and it becomes even harder.

    • This becomes rather an economic issue. Is it possible to create an economy within the globalized colossus where single-income families are viable? Perhaps so. However, for this to work I think the sort of people populating this economy would have to be innately far less materialistic than the vast majority of people who currently dwell in the West. Of course, self-selection might just produce that very outcome.

  9. Today’s Power Hour has been overdue. I appreciate the detailed explanation of the term Dissident Right and agree that the premises of the West’s system are deeply flawed.

    Zman spent some time talking about the TRS guys who have formed the National Justice Party, pointing out that they’re anti-semites. He also said they have no clue what to do after the Semites are gone and that there’s no dissent from anything other than they don’t like Jewish people and that they’re not looking at the current system we have and saying these are fundamentally flawed, and that their starting point is hatred of Jews.

    It’s true, the guys at TRS, like Jazzhands, Warren Balogh, Mike Enoch et al constantly talk and critique Jewish power and influence and history, and is a foundational issue for them. But I think it’s unfair to say that they have no clue what to do after the Semites are gone. Here’s a link to the NJP’s party platform: https://nationaljusticeparty.com/platform/

    Clearly they do have a plan that’s not just a few tweeks here and there, although some things would stay in place, just expanded, such as the Civil Right Act including equal protections and privileges to Whites, as an example. Would their platform be a fundamental disagreement with our entire system or just changing certain policies? Whether dissident or not, there’s more to the NJP than simply critique of Jews.




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    • I recently had a very bad mouse problem that I was obsessed with solving. Many people helpfully offered advice. Nobody ever asked me what my plan was for *after* the mice were gone.

  10. There can never be too many of us or we wouldn’t be dissidents. Organizing around that label is embracing failure. At least that was how pre clown world definitions used to work, in the Before Times.

    White nationalism means the power and water are on. This is the definition I use all the time, especially in conversation with baizuo/cloud persons.

    • I agree with your point on dissident being de facto failure. Some may cite Luther’s 95 theses as a dissent that led to revolution. However, this would be fallacious, for the 95 theses was popular because it appealed to many people already IN POWER. The Reformation, already brewing and popular in spots, appealed to regional powers as a tool to usurp a competitor. In this unilateral/ hegemonic world, the dissident will not find a patron, unlike Luther.

      • Right, why no patronage? It’s not like the potential base of power isn’t huge, and ambitious people like power. Tptb must police themselves hard. Obviously, given what they’ve done to Trump. Must be hellish in those circles. A lot worse than what us dirts experience.

        • I would suggest that they don’t police themselves so hard – they police their borders. In the same way, a gated community has probably more illegal activity than a Philadelphia crack alley (Paul P. and hammertime – probably a ton of drugs there). The point is the exclusion that allows them to operate freely. They keep the outsiders away and submissive.

    • There’s nothing wrong with the word dissident. At bare minimum, it capitalizes on the love for the plucky underdog, which has been part of America’s mental world for as long as anybody can remember. Hell, the Left, which won the culture war as surely as the Globetrotters defeated the Generals, always portrayed itself–with some degree of accuracy, early on–as a collection of beleaguered, antiestablishment dissenters. Such an appellation obviously did that movement no harm.

      • It’s more than incredible how the left’s antiestablishment resistance mindset persists even unto this day. I wouldn’t believe it if I didn’t witness it with my own eyes in individuals who believe we are living in a right wing dystopia. One of the rare times I am truly speechless.

  11. Since I no longer comment at Unz and consider this a dissident right issue, I will vent my spleen here. All the ostensibly pro-White, pro-heritage-American groups are pushing a half Hindu as a White standard bearer and hero. Amren, Vdare, Counter Currents, etc. are all pushing Neil Kumar as some sort of authentic ‘son of the South’ who champions White people and history and culture.

    How this is any different from the conservatards who idolize Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas escapes me. All those magic black and magic brown political candidates celebrated by Gayway Pundit and friends . . . because they hold to the magic principles and ‘murrica is an idea.

    Zman just wrote an excellent and scathing post about Jevvs pushing the poison pill of civnattery for thee but not for me, and has written repeatedly about the futility of participating in and depending upon the extant political system, but all the supposedly dissident right sites still push voting and non-White political candidates to represent and champion purportedly White interests.

    A plague on them all.




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    • “How this is any different from the conservatards who idolize Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas escapes me.”

      It is grotesque and if anything simultaneously more repellent and laughable than CivNattery.




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  12. There are lot of “dissidents” in today’s West. These are called normal White men. The West as it is today offers nothing for them. They will never be hired to any job of any importance and small and independent businesses are being closed down in favor of big semi-monopolies. They will never, ever be leaders, as those positions are reserved for the “DEI or DIE!” people. Relationships with women are fraught and uncomfortable as White women are the natural and eternal enemy of ordinary White men. This is why you see White guy after White guy on Youtube complaining in a “safe space” about pop culture, which was their last refuge and is now totally diverse, strong, and empowered female. For “modern audiences” read not them.

    The marketplace keeps churning out strong, empowered diverse casts for “modern audiences” even though few go to see these things. Look at Disney. Reportedly they have a huge hole in their balance sheet due to speculating on FTX. Which is why Chapek was fired. Blackrock and other major institutional investors don’t care about returns and will continue to invest as those hedge funds get “free money” from the feds by being authorized dealers in Treasury securities and fed funds repo rates. There is no feedback loop in business any more than in politics.

    What is needed is a movement aimed specifically at the common enemy of the diverse: ordinary White men. It should be focused on patronage and support for this group first, politics second. We are sort of at the point where after a bloated, self-indulgent 1970s corporate rock (10 minute drum solos from Yes or ELO) punk sneered at that stuff but flamed out. Sid Vicious = Richard Spencer. We don’t need the Insane Klown Posse or Deadheads but we do need an encompassing movement that gives both succor and meaning to ordinary White men. As nothing else in society is filling that space and its an opportunity. As Napoleon said, he did not usurp the crown. He picked it out of the gutter … with the point of his sword.




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    • There is much of value and truth in what you say. I like the forward thrust of a meaningful vision for meaningful action. I would caution against the blanket white women are all against us posture. That mentality will only make a man, of any race, unattractive to women.

      White men need to form and forge alliances. We also need to acknowledge the preferences to shun us. However, we do live in a world where technical prowess is essential. Our task is to be even better and even more technical and roles in deeply technical areas will be open to us. That has another benefit of putting our people in peer positions with the elite that matter – those who can do something meaningful and valuable. It is a de-facto class of infiltrators

      That will also make our men attractive to women. You will be an attractive man who is also highly competent – so competent he can’t be kept out. You will work in environments where there are many women desperate to meet a real man. They will smell you and throw themselves at you. The witches will smell you too, but funny enough, they will want you to. You will need to smell out the witches.

      If we want to be King we have to act like the King, we have to earn the right to be King. It is not some one-off battle in this world – not yet. It is a daily and strategic act of picking your own crown out of the gutter and the sword is the entirety of your being. Fortunately for you and for us, we are born with the Faustian soul in our blood. We must remember that, act like it, and live up to it.

      Merry Christmas and May the Gods Bless You Whiskey.

    • Your beta male cuckiness is wafting through yet again Whiskey.

      I am not questioning that White women are the absolute worst right now but you paint them as our eternal enemies and that is patently false. Women, ALL women, are empty vessels by and large. Their anatomy looks the way it does for a reason it is quite reflective of their true spirit and nature. They are waiting to be filled. Secondary to that, they are herding animals because a million years of genetics decrees it as such. Their best chance for survival and passing their genes forward comes from utter conformity and staying in the center of the herd. When you are physically weak, mentally pulled towards the center of the bell curve, and have to become a walking balloon potentially for 9 months this makes total sense.

      Our real (((enemies))) figured this out and from the Suffrage movement on up through women’s lib now to tranny rights, deifying blacks, and all the other outrages have heavily capitalized on this Achilles’ Heel of your average wahmen. Decades of 24x7x365 relentless propaganda have achieved the desired effect and turned them against their own men.

      Women are not critical thinkers, I can count on both hands the number of women I’ve met in my life that are and go against the grain. Some of whom inhabit this board, God bless them for taking a stand because these same ones (3g4me, Melissa, RangeFrontFault, etc.) will also freely admit that their peers are just as describe them above.

      The trick here is to reestablish control of the narrative and zeitgeist not lean into the massive chasm between us placed there by our millennial enemies. You kvetching about it does approx. zero to help the situation.

  13. Re definitions, Sundance at Conservative Treehouse dropped the most important political revelation I’ve ever seen.

    It’s something everybody kind of knew, but nobody ever reaĺly looked twice.

    This: The official Parties, the actual Republican and Democrat National Committees, are corporations.

    ***Elected officials represent the interests of…the corporation.***

    Not the “will of the people.”

    They do what is best for the corporation, serving their market of donors.

    The entire campaign industry, media, voting, elections, etc., is a marketing campaign for their primary revenue streams-donors, government, and grift- and the board of director’s interests.

    So…voting?
    Local possibilities, and those are a slim maybe.




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  14. Ancient Wisdom

    In the same motif as the Michigan Governor Kidnapping Plot and the Jan 6th Insurrection, the German Federal Government recently marshaled 3,000 LEOs to nab two dozen “coup plotters.” The Stasi is everywhere and their ability manufacture, dupe, and entrap ordinary people into being portrayed as terrorists is picking up steam. This is their main mission now; to lure dissidents into groupings, exploit their anger at the Crazy, and then set them up of persecution.

    They do this for many reasons. One is that it sure beats real crime fighting, which involves actual work and potential danger. Two is that it sends the “right message” to the dirt people (via the MSM) that they have the power and are not inhibited by the law. Three is that these manufactured “security threats” will justify future Draconian measures such as mass arrests and detention camps (not to mention cracking skulls when so ordered, just ask Ashli Babbit how real this can be).

    So be careful out there, especially when interacting in groups with anyone you haven’t known for a very long time. And even that is no guarantee because flipping people is just a matter of applying enough pressure behind the scenes. Expect entrapment OPs to spread like a plague.




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      • Yes, false flag OPs. Ditto for the “accidents” that have taken down various food processing related businesses. It’s all part of building the mass insurrection narrative up into a justification for going full totalitarian. And they are banking on this narrative being instrumental in keeping the LEOs on-side. The rabbit hole goes very deep indeed.




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      • Jack: I’ve read all sorts of out-there theories about who did what and why re substations. While I don’t ignore the likelihood of fedgov involvement for political purposes, it’s really not my main focus. First, I noticed this comment at one blog:

        “I work making the casings for the big transformers. The sidewalls are generally 10 mm steel plate. The radiators are usually only 1.2 mm thick. Shoot a radiator and the oil will run out just the same, causing overheating. Not suggesting you do so, of course.”

        Then I did some reading about power stations in general. Then I investigated this link:

        https://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/?p=58489

        Ultimately, the takeaway, for me at least, is this (from yet a different blog):

        “As people into preparedness, use the Moore County incident as wake up call. It can, and it WILL happen again, with absolutely no notice. For our purposes it doesn’t matter who attacked the substations or why – what matters are the second and third order effects. Focus on that. Make sure that you are ready.

        In addition to all of the physical preparations, we need to talk about some mental preps that need to be made. For no apparent reason, the Sheriff immediately imposed a curfew from 9 PM to 5 AM. The looting the media claims is the reason turns out to be no more than a single professional shoplifter apprehended.”

        • Thanks for the additional information, 3g. The over-the-top reaction tends to bolster the idea that either a state actor outright did these things or is having it done, I think. As for mental preparation, absolutely. Even under the best case scenario we are about to enter a long period of deprivation. That requires a mental toughness most people have lost.

    • Shows the focus does it not.

      3000 police for 25 people most of who are in their 60s and 1 gun.

      100 police per person!

      Drug gangs, people smugglers, mass rape, millions of illegal immigrants no one can do anything.

      25 pensioners grumbling about the govt and its operation desert fucking storm 2.0.

  15. One thing we should be damn clear about:

    When it comes to “getting the people right,” White Liberals are not the right people. Ever. Period.

    Any “shared cultural heritage” we may have with them simply contains the seed of their unborn suicidal desire, a death they wish to drag us down with them into.




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    • Return, you are correct that some whites must be excluded.

      However, I believe that many liberals are just brainwashed by the hegemony of the media’s narrative. They like to virtue signal, which is a consequence of our evolutionary inheritance of moral communities, but they can be just as easily brainwashed with our beliefs.

      Further, I believe that if we begin demanding freedom of association, the whites who cannot be reprogrammed will make themselves known and those are the irredeemable ones.




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      • As Milgram’s experiment showed clearly, humans respond to perceived authority for instruction.

        Without something that looks like authority to normies, there is no way to override the messaging.

        Without taking over institutions, the most likely bet is creating an alternative media and distribution mechanism, as the screen is the most effective conditioning device and highest authority people have been tied to as an aggregate authority vector.

        Everything flows from that.

  16. I don’t believe it is possible to keep any label we could use clean and unassociated with freaks and weirdos. Look at the LGBT movement. In the 80s and 90s all kinds of degenerates and freaks attached themselves to that label including NAMBLA. But their buddies in the press kept these people at bay and off the main stage. NAMBLA (National Man-Boy Love Association), the most well known example, would show up at pride parades with big banners announcing their perverted debauchery along with LGBT and rainbow flags. But not one picture of these NAMBLA signs at pride parades ever ended up in the paper or the evening news. Nobody even knew this more evil side of LGBT existed.

    We don’t have friends in the media. Most people in the media want us killed or at least sent to prison for a long time, while the rest are embarrassed and want us to go away. There are no shortages of weirdos and freaks who will put on a hat with “I’m a dissident” in big letters who will pose for a picture or do an interview saying ridiculous things for his 30 seconds of fame.

    We cannot control the message. We cannot have a popular public movement. Besides, even if we could, it’s against “who we are.” After all, we oppose democracy.




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    • So many black pills this week. Evil seems to be claiming small victory after small victory. Griner is the best of us, American Girl Doll preaches the gospel of gender identity, and globohomo rolls on.

      People aren’t waking up, they aren’t getting fed up. I cannot understand.

      We will be a much smaller contingent before this is over, if it ever is.

      Alas




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      • Livestock never wake up.

        They are livestock their entire life.

        Cows don’t suddenly realize they can get in the tractor standing in the field and drive off.




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        • Most dissidents, or white nationalists, or whatever we are calling ourselves, are ex normiecons who somehow got redpilled along the way. I think. Haven’t taken survey. People aren’t cattle, notwithstanding how much Mr. Schwab wants them to be. Not all of them anyway.

          There’s that meme somewhere of the guy who is smart enough to see through globohomo’s propaganda, and the guy who is dumb enough that the propaganda never affected him in the first place, and then the midwit, who falls for it every time.

        • This is the most important thing dissidents need to figure out. 90% of the population are witless cattle and trying to use them is pointless unless you control the media and can tell them that actually creating a new Pale of Settlement and relegating goblins to potato farming is Who We Are™.

      • That is not true. There is a white pill here. I have seen people in the Warrior community very upset about it. Shawn Ryan and others are very upset about this.

        I say, keep it up GAE. Keep exchanging arms dealers for nation hating black entertainers who support organizations of trained Marxists who rioted and looted and burned our cities and are rabidly anti-American and anti-white.

        Keep it up. A lot of warriors are waking up to see what and who they in fact fought for. Be very happy about this Mr. C.




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        • Over in Britain, opposition to BLM or taking a knee is always explained by referring to them as Marxists – think your Paul Joseph Watson types. Arguing like this is no different than going down the NAXALT path; the implication being that the colored invasion of our lands is acceptable so long as it’s the “right ones”.

          No. Stop with that rhetorical sop to the left. Firstly, the left isn’t bothered by the Marxist label. Secondly, they have to go back.

      • Yeah. I always thought the pedo thing was a bridge too far and that the public would fight it. I thought if there was ONE thing that could get the 2nd amendment guys to utilize their rights, it would be their kids. Man, how wrong I was. Just imagine going back in time even a single generation and telling them all about the child perversions going on today and so many mothers backing it all. They would have had you committed as an insane person. We won’t even defend our children. Are we even worth preserving?




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      • Mr C,

        Your post reminded me of a portion of Joe Brandon’s Brittney Griner press release yesterday. He said,

        Brittney “represents the best America – the best about America- just across the board, everything about her.”

        I don’t have a drink strong enough to wash that black pill down. I guess I’ll just go into my default Gen X mode; eat the pain, and go to bed early.

        Un-ironically, Merry Christmas, everyone.

      • I’m blackpilled about most things but this is wrong. The number of people who have been redpilled has exploded. It likely is around ten percent, and that may be ceiling, but it was infinitely smaller just six or seven years ago.

  17. Great podcast! Much needed: if we’re not all meaning the same thing when we use a particular word or phrase, misunderstanding is guaranteed.

    > And grounding dissident politics and the dissident worldview in biological reality seems like a failsafe strategy.

    People can argue endlessly about subjective questions of morality; but if we ground our arguments about human nature and human behavior in known scientific fact— in what science has revealed, and is continually revealing, regarding human biodiversity, the genetic foundation of all human traits, and the intimate reciprocal connection between genetics and culture— then our discussions will remain on the firm ground of verifiable— and refutable— fact.

    And the good news, of course, is that the facts are all on our side.

    That’s why the progressive egalitarian “anti-racists” are so determined to stifle any and all discussion around the actual science of genetics, racial differences, IQ, etc.




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    • People don’t respond to facts. The small percentage who already do are all on this side anyway.

      How have all the facts about a myriad of crime, IQ, sex difference, basic biology issues even etc been used to reject a stupid law or push a positive policy.

      Not a single one.

      They are irrelevant to almost any societal level discussion as the golobohome shows every single day.

      The control of the megaphones and the ubiquity of repeated messages are what count.

      90% of people are NPCs and that is what must be used as a foundation of strategy, as they do with great effect.

      A fact based approach will leave you posting graphs on the toilet wall of “no one cares”.




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    • As Z repeats often, however, moral arguments are more powerful than factual ones. It is nice, of course, that the truth is on our side. However, if we cannot couch the truth in vivid arguments that stir the imagination and the emotions, it won’t matter a dam’.

  18. “”That said, the many wackos who have been allowed to use the label white nationalist have made it easy for the bad guys to anathematize the term by soaking it with their vitriol.“”

    Allow??? As if anyone has any control over who uses the term.

    For the “dissident right”, the term will continue to be used by a wider circle until Ben Shapiro and Sean Hannity decide they need to start grifting off of it.

    Finally a shooter will use the the term “dissident” in his manisfesto and all the guilt-ridden, week-kneed “dissidents” will disavow the entire movement and go running for cover.

    Nobody can control who uses the term, the only thing you can control your own reaction to the left’s attempt to demonize your own movement by associating you with the wackos. This is where the right fails every time.




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