This week we have seen two more contenders join the Republican primary field, promising to be happy warriors to save America. Tim Scott from South Carolina and Ron DeSantis of Florida bring the field to eight, as far as the candidates with any chance of getting on the debate stage. With the exception of Trump and Ramaswamy, the field is all doing some version of conservative nostalgia. That is a mix of the crucible, the covenant, and the creed.
That last bit comes from a short little book titled After Nationalism which describes the three main ways the American ruling class has unified the country. The crucible is the melting pot story of America. The covenant is the claim that America has a special purpose in the world. The creed is the old familiar civic nationalist argument that America is just a collection of ideas. Conservatism has relied on all three to market candidates and programs over the years.
The theme of the book is that those three unifying narratives are no longer working as the country devolves into warring tribes. You can see that in the presentation from the Republican candidates as they announce their campaigns. The Tim Scott show was like a 1990’s Conservative Inc. fantasy about the black vote. The DeSantis campaign teased his announcement with this ad on Twitter, which is Bush era patriotism without the promise of a crusade against Islam.
What the Republican primary is going to give us is another unhealthy dose of the old conservative formula. On the one hand, you are supposed to ignore the fact that you live around people who look nothing like you. On the other hand, you are supposed to focus on those nebulous ideals that allegedly define America. As long as everyone forgets about the long list of harms that have been inflicted on them over the last several decades, we can unite to save the country!
The one exception to all of this is Trump, who is a weird product of the two main forces colliding in the present moment. The one force is the old civic nationalism that held the white middle-class together and tightly bound it to both the Republican party and the political system itself. The other force is the radical changes unleashed by the ruling elites who no longer believe in the old civic nationalism. Trump and his fans exist in that incoherent vortex created by these colliding forces.
In fairness to Ron DeSantis, he seems to share the moral outrage of the average white person over the things we are seeing. His opposition to the sexualization of children is genuine, as well as his opposition to the tribal politics of the Left. Unlike the rest of the field opposing Trump, DeSantis is a normal person who is properly offended by the lunacy that has been unleashed on normal people. Like most normal people, he does not understand why this is happening.
The terms Left and Right have lost their meaning, but we still use them because we have nothing else at the moment. We can, however, see the vague outlines of a new scale developing when we look at the Republican field. Instead of the old 20th century poles of Hitler at one end and Stalin at the other, the new poles are the post-Marx culture warriors at one end and the biological realists at the other. The former is more fully developed, while the latter is still evolving.
Most of the Republican field is left of center. They largely agree with the moral claims of the culture warriors. They disagree, mildly, with their tactics. Tim Scott has no real objection to the antiwhite pogroms run by the military, for example, he just worries that they make it more difficult to wage pointless wars of choice. Nikki Haley is fine with the woke capital media campaigns, but her consultants tell her that she has to pretend to be upset about these things when she is interviewed.
DeSantis is one guy right of center on this stuff. He does not agree with the culture warriors, but he thinks the old system remains intact and that these weirdos are just random lunatics that have slipped their leash. He thinks the system can deal with these people without making any changes to the system. All we have to do is go back to our American principles. In other words, he is a guy who sees the iceberg, but he does not appreciate the part under the water.
On this scale, Trump lies just to the right of DeSantis. In fact, the main difference is style, owing to the difference in temperament. DeSantis responds to the current madness by pulling out the rule book. Trump responds to the current madness by throwing a chair out the window. It is not that either man is more or less offended by what is happening. They have different personalities and different worldviews, based on vastly different lives, so they react differently.
Even so, Trump is still in the camp that thinks the system can solve this crisis, if the right people are running the system. Viscerally he senses that this may not be true which helps explain his vacillation. Since Trump came on the scene, he has been hearing the distant calls of right-wing nationalism, but he lacks the understanding to make out what is being said. He is a man being pulled in multiple directions because he senses that something is terribly wrong with the system.
This conflict between the past and the present is why the Republicans are about to replay their 2016 primary. They have a more diverse field than in 2016 and Trump is not viewed as a novelty act. DeSantis is a better version of Ted Cruz, but he is occupying the same place as Cruz occupied in the 2016 race. Trump, of course, is an improved version of himself, having suffered the full force of the regime. He is not just a rambunctious rebuke, but a legitimate victim of the regime.
Even so, this replay of the 2016 election is due to the fact that the party and the country are stuck in the past. Everything about our present politics is backward looking, as if no one really wants to face up to the present. The 2016 election should have broken both parties free of the past, but instead it made them cling tighter. This election will be a reboot of the old franchise, not because the original was so good, but because no one can think of anything new that better fits the times.
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I hope I’m wrong, but I predict a(nother) stolen election for Biden.
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There would have to be something close to a palace coup for the presidential election to swing right. That, or an economic calamity which creates a power vacuum, has managerial-state goons running for the exits, and is filled by a Red Caesar who promises to make things right.
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Outside of the usual shills, the main feeling I get it simple apathy. The average person knows something is horribly wrong, which would usually translate to political interest, but very little is seen. It’s like people are implicitly understanding everything is coming off, but no national election can stop what’s coming.
Also, a lot of it has to do with the reality of ballot harvesting, which makes convincing people a fool’s errand and becomes a contest of who can shove ballots in front of stupid, low information voters and get them to check the right box. The urge to convince loses its appeal, which is why making voting easier is so dumb, as there needs to be incentive for people to stand in line in a physical location on a specific day, and these people will tend to be more informed voters.
Given our economic and military issues, I would give the chances of actually even having an election at 80%, but these chances could come crashing down in a hurry. War with China or Russia or a true monetary system crash will mean no election.
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Back in the day, most people had to get themselves to the polls to vote. This tended to benefit Republicans; although even Democrats who participated were more likely to have a little more on the ball than the average prole. Only a relatively small percentage of voters from a similar demographic voted absentee.
These days, with only a signature for verification in many states, your pet could vote absentee. And as a legal matter, the only distinction between a naturalized citizen and an illegal alien (per the Supreme Court) is they’ve ticked a box on their voter registration card saying they’re a U.S. citizen, no verification necessary.
With drop-off balloting, the voters have become purely notional. While you might visualize NGOs helping the semi-literate to fill in their ballots, this is not always practical. For the 2020 election, warehouse sized “get-out-the-vote” operations involving 100,000s of such ballots for, say, only the presidential race were evidently required.
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Voting has always been easy. Just register one time when you turn 18 or move to a new area. There will be a polling location near where you live that is open all day on Election Day. Elections are at fixed intervals so you have literally months between elections to make arrangements for work, travel, etc.
What has been made much easier is *cheating*. We’ve always had ballot stuffing, but it was much harder when you didn’t know who had voted until the day of, and you only had a precious few hours on election night (instead of literal weeks *before* and *after* the “election”) to come up with the numbers.
Mail-in voting / ballot harvesting were implemented for the sole purpose of facilitating massive, organized election fraud. Now they can steal it even if the vote isn’t close.
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“War with China or Russia or a true monetary system crash will mean no election.”
Dang it, Chet: now you have me rooting for nuclear war and economic collapse.
At least my family and I will slowly starve/ die from radiation poisoning while surrounded by lots and lots of ammo…
The whole thing is like an episode of the twilight zone. The destruction is so bad that larping is the only option, reality is just too much. They know the product is defective but their job in the process is to pull that lever, pulling the lever is virtuous and who doesn’t want to think they’re one of the good guys.
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Maniac may be right. There almost certainly will be strenuous efforts to re-install the Biden Team, if only to keep prosecutors away from their many crimes against the nation.
An openly fixed election, however, may trigger a strong reaction. An armed uprising by righteously angry people, a Second Civil War if you will, could be the result. In the unstable conditions of a Fourth Turning there are many possibilities.
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It would be a silent succession, with red states simply ignoring Washington D.C. and refusing to help federal agencies.
The Fed’s only trump card is the monetary system, and that is strained to the limit as it is.
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This is happening even now with increased frequency.
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Red states need to be making plans to reserve fossil fuel and food resources for themselves.
They should also be trying to gauge if any of the many mini-reactor projects are worth a darn.
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Yes. Individual states that prioritize their own energy and food production will survive because whether intentional or not the United States has embraced policies that will leave people cold and hungry. It takes a certain will to power to start devolving into an independent polity, and one of the green shoots of recent years has been the beginning of that process, whether conscious or not.
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I have no opinion about fission power sources, but I have it on good authority that hydroelectric is worth a dam. 😏
to me, Trump shows zero evidence of having learned a thing since 2016/2020. his attacks on DeSantis are ham handed and make him look like a cheap thug. none of the GOP candidates are agents of change because the GOP is a vested interest in the current turmoil (as is the Dem party). the only candidate that is remotely interesting is Kennedy.
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The Trump campaign’s response to the DeSantis show was brilliant.
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That is awesome. Who produced that?
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I’m going to have to respectfully disagree about that little response video by the Trump team. It was basically nothing more than a juvenile cheap shot — which is about all that Trump is really good for. And throwing the Mustache Man into the mix just makes the whole thing look ridiculously pozzed. Then at the end, when they have Trump threatening to put Soros and Schwab in jail, it brings back memories of Trump claiming Hillary Clinton would be in prison if he ever became president — how did that turn out? That entire video only reminded me that Trump is merely a blowhard who rarely if ever delivers on all his worthless boasting. It annoys me that people still find his schtick amusing. We need to get beyond him.
Nuts & bolts.
Trump’s base is around 40% of primary voters, and it’s rock solid. The other 7 pretenders will have to split the remaining 60%, so it’s going to take some extraordinary shenanigans to keep Trump from winning the nomination. Can the Rs play as dirty as the Ds. Methinks not because there’s not a swinging pair to be found among the RINOs. And even if they succeed in shit-canning Trump (which is probable), many of his voters will then boycott the presidential election.
These upcoming campaigns will keep normie occupied with distraction and false hope, but the most important dynamic of the next few years will center on the defeat of US proxy Ukraine and the demise of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The former will break the EU and NATO, and the latter will usher in a deep depression in the West. Without foreigners buyers of US debt instruments, the halcyon days of hegemony and foreign resource rape will come to an ignominious end. A GDP based upon accounting tricks and ephemeral programming IP is not going to fly when the economy tanks next year. Those chickens will come home to roost and real hardship will arrive, better late than never. It will not be a good time to be fat and unskilled.
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Amazing still is how many normies cling to the belief that this financial house of cards will continue in perpetuity. One has to purposely keep blinders on not to see that this story does not have a happy ending…
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True, but TBF, predicting collapse has been somewhat of an industry for as long as I’ve been cognizant of politics. People get used to hearing it. I’ve always kinda wondered if Greek and Roman citizens had the same feeling in the moments before stuff unquestionably hit the fan.
Well done piece.
The problems I see with DeSantis are;
Harvard Graduate
Military lawyer (dear lord)
And therefore, a product of the deep state.
And as my old FTO told me the first day on the job, “never trust a Fed”.
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Even if DeSantis didn’t have those issues, his retail political skills are historically bad. It is a visible struggle for him to have conversations with normal voters. Part of the reason for his huge reelection margin in Florida was people fed up with Covid restrictions other places moving into the state. What is the argument he can win the Rust Belt even if it wasn’t fortified for democracy?
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If he is a product of the deep state and a Fed, then there may be a silver lining. DeSantis is by no means /ourguy/ but his right-of-center signalling suggests that there is a faction of the managerial state that is sick of the woke stuff. And maybe even skeptical of the neocon stuff. If the regime is not going to fall any time soon – and it may last for generations longer – then I’m glad there’s at least some green shoots of sanity lurking about Washington, even if they are Muskian centrists.
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Hadn’t thought of it in that light Marko. Then again, it suggests a return to the old days.
Alas, the bridges back have been burned long ago.
The regime could last for a few generations? Dunno man, this last ten years brought changes I never expected to see. Another 20 years I doubt whatever that is will resemble anything today. Slow boil will make it seem familiar, maybe; Americans sure put up with enough nonsense already.
Yes, always an argument for the lesser of two evils. I’m not hoping for a repeat, but hypothetically, let’s speculate a future world where the Inner Party is rent by disputes that require no-shit “Traditional” methods to settle. Even if he was a founding member, history tells us that at times, a Trotsky is literally airbrushed out of history. That’s a good thing if you were not the Trotsky faction.
FTO?
Qu’est-ce-que-c’est, s’il-vous plait?
RasQBall
Good thing my wife is French!
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If there was any truth in advertising, the DeSantis ad would have taken place at the Wailing Wall.
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90% sure the trip to Israel, and the anti-speech legislation, was DeSantis signaling to his true owners he will play ball. Trump did a lot of the same stuff.
Leads one to think that whatever you think of the psychos who own our politicians, they’re probably even worse.
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Who among the Republicans is the Israel first candidate?
All of them.
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All of our focus should be on the proper coordination of the seemingly contradictory objectives of positioning within the system to take over and building the parallel of what comes next. The most logical combination is continuing The Great Resorting (geographical separation), and takeover of local politics and create strongholds throughout the American Asturias.
Any eyes on politics should only be done to take time and temperature in order to time cow tipping and/or reactive actions.
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The thin GOP candidate field speaks volumes about the current state of affairs. The Regime has intimidated its opposition and is in full control. Only DeSantis is willing to screw up his life. And this assumes he isn’t “controlled opposition”. Trump’s life is already screwed.
The others are non-entities that have no lives to screw up and won’t be taken seriously in any case. Hailey and Scott are running for Board seats at defense contractors and/or grifter gigs at think tanks.
So we have a senile incompetent who is nearly politically impregnable and attracts minimal opposition. Really?
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Well, I think the whole election tradition is simply charming. It’s wonderfully noisy and bombastic and traditional – the part where they re-enact the Roman consul oaths is wildly anachronistic, of course. But by now it’s become this great un-self-conscious throwback – I mean, it’s just its own thing now with the pretend Roman forum and all that. Just a great show. I wish they could do it every year.
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DeSantis should (and probably does) know about diversity itself being an inherently destructive force. There’s no way for him not to know, as Miami, like Baltimore (but moreso) is a place where the future arrived early. You’ve had low level civil war between poor whites and poor everyone else there since the “Florida Crackers” settled there in the 18th century. You also got an early look at how the diversity will devour each other when no whiteys are around, during the Civil Rights era. You had fat matronly black women telling Cubans flush with federal cash (some of it FBI and CIA money) that it wasn’t fair they were getting preferential treatment when black mammies had breastfed white babies in the South since slave days—I actually read that in a transcript about the Overtown riots in Miami. Blacks and Hispanics hate each other in real life, despite Steve Sailer’s KKKrazy Glue theory. The Overtown Riots, by the way, were the writing on the wall regarding the State’s inability to shoot nonwhites looters/rioters. The National Guard came in ready to engage with the enemy and the cops said they couldn’t afford to shoot blacks even if they were burning down buildings, because they had to patrol these neighborhoods.
I agree that the election is mostly theater at this point, but if the center does not hold and the system collapses, it is possible that someone will seize the moment. Trump can fill a stadium faster than a rabbit gets f*cked, which is the real reason the people in charge of have been sweating marbles since he appeared on the stage. It’s actually almost a guarantee that someone will step into that breach. Trump, as you say, is a different beast now. He saw what happened when he told people to go home after peacefully protesting. His home has been invaded by the state and his wife’s belongings have been ransacked by the Stasi.
Honestly, at this point—with the groomers out in the open and the economy tanking—I’m not sure Trump would even be able to hold back the hordes of red-hatted morlocks if things broke and they thought it was time to get some getback on the smug elois. You might see a “red wave” but one of retribution, similar to what happens in prison riots when lifers gain temporary access to snitches and chomos (who, incidentally, fit the same profile as a lot of leftists, especially Antifa.) I know, I know: “Normie never wakes up.” Maybe not, but even a sleepwalker can do some damage, and people used to all-you-can-eat buffets might do strange things when the heat lamp goes out on the carving station.
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“DeSantis should (and probably does) know about diversity itself being an inherently destructive force. There’s no way for him not to know . . .” Au contraire! Are you unfamiliar with the phenomenon of willful ignorance?
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
– Sinclair Lewis
If DeSantis was the type who understood the problems inherent to diversity, his ass would have been drummed out of the system long before he made it to governor. Same with Trump. We’re all supposed to believe that The Donald is some kind of anti-establishment figure. Isn’t he the same guy the establishment spent decades promoting the hell out of starting in the 1980s? Isn’t he supposedly a billionaire? Nobody makes billions by going against the establishment. The dude had a reality show on network television, for crying out loud! Anybody who mistakes Donald Trump for a genuine rebel is just a rube.
Stop falling for the hype. No claim made by the system can be trusted.
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Donald is an Eighties-era liberal with a fem-prog daughter who influences him greatly. What lasted from his administration? Almost nothing. The Woke-Fem Junta just used it and him to springboard further totalitarianism, while he tipped on out to Mar-a-Lago.
If the Politburo had imprisoned him, like they do in latin america to real opponents — instead of just bringing him in to talk — then I might be moved a little. If Donald had grown up working or middle class, had to forge his own way, felt the full weight of New Amerika being shoved down his throat, I might be swayed by his loud noises and rallies that he is a threat.
But to date I see no threat. Billionaire former teevee host who builds golf courses. Permitted the theft of his OWN election lol, kicked-off the poison vax amidst much bragging, and left his J6 backers to rot.
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Kind of have to disagree about Trump. Sure he’s a protoype civnat but he has learned hard lessons over the last couple years. He should know now exactly where he stands in the GAE scheme of things now and hopefully if elected (I don’t think he will be) he will use his power and the support of millions to clean house.
A lot of revolutionairies come from the elites, Che for example. Maybe that will happen here.
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I remember seeing the same sort of arch, affected world-weary certitude in the runup to the 2016 election, especially from older people. “The system knows how to deal with people like Trump. He won’t make it through the primaries.” As Tucker pointed out, then, the world we’re in is a very different one than the world of only a few years ago. Mainstream politicians are openly talking about antiwhite hatred, as are normie whites. No one really quite understands the battlespace in which we’re all currently fighting. All I know is that the system has put more energy into destroying Trump than any man in American history, and he is still (as of this writing) neither dead nor in jail. He’s proven to have uncanny political instincts and—despite his daughter’s decision—his mating choices are proof of functioning literal instincts. His children, like ours, are objects of hate for the ruling class, including both the “white” and white members of that class. Maybe he still has Jared Kushner in his ear, and maybe he’s a fraud. But the forces that unleashed the Trump phenomenon are not going away, even if he does. He was a battering ram who exposed a crack in the castle wall. Maybe he makes it through the breach at the head of an army, maybe not. But the hole is still there, and getting bigger regardless of the attempts to mason it closed.
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Does it ever occur to you pro-Trumpers that the ruling class might just be using the man as a decoy to misdirect dissident hope and energy into someone who is ultimately ineffectual and poses no genuine threat to the system?
Text to satisfy filter: I was very young when this happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Overtown_riot
“Everything about our present politics is backward looking, as if no one really wants to face up to the present. The 2016 election should have broken both parties free of the past, but instead it made them cling tighter. This election will be a reboot of the old franchise, not because the original was so good, but because no one can think of anything new that better fits the times.”
Those are some of the most insightful lines you have written and they need to be in your long-overdue book.
I really do not know what would better fit the times if we view the United States as continuing as an intact polity, which it most certainly is not. The past is embraced because nothing can hold together an undefined, non-existent country “based on an idea.” A presidential candidate could acknowledge dissolution is well underway and he will work to make it orderly and peaceful, but that type of honesty never gets rewarded. If it did, managing the decline would not be a third rail. The fragmentation will continue and will continue to be ignored. Maybe that is a good, organic thing in and of itself. The dissolution cannot be controlled so, as you wrote, it is and will be ignored until some point it has to be addressed explicitly, which very well may be November 2024.
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It is weird, in that the 2016 election was just past its sell-by date even when it was new so now that they’re looking for a replay it seems insulting that they want us to consume a bowl of mold. It’s not just the GOP either, keep in mind the Dems had to fortify their past two primaries to keep Sanders off the ballot
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The “Left” is bought for the time being. We have ongoing dissolution and fragmentation from “conservatives” as they leave Blue shitholes and disengage from the central government. The “Left” will put up with election rigging until it economically suffers, and then a Deep Fake like Bernie will have no other choice than to pay lip service to revolution and hope the call goes unheeded.
2016 was a great time full of hope and excitement. The God-Emperor was going to save us all. Anybody here remembers this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9NhVeWYxuw
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“Since Trump came on the scene, he has been hearing the distant calls of right-wing nationalism, but he lacks the understanding to make out what is being said. He is a man being pulled in multiple directions because he senses that something is terribly wrong with the system.”
Ethno-nationalism is the only way forward. Not only because of the problem of changing demographics but because of the orchestrated campaign against white people being waged. There is no alternative. The old civic nationalism rested on the tacit assumption of a white majority whose members had a fair bit in common with one another. Now they’re a beleaguered group that will be a minority by mid-century. The “globo homo” and the “great replacement” offensive is succeeding.
There are two ways of seeing Trump, and they’re not mutually exclusive. One is as the least bad choice. The other is as a pied piper leading white people absolutely nowhere because, well, Trump is not in essence an ethno-nationalist himself.
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For better or worse, that is the only option available to us.
I’ve gamed out pretty much every other ideology and that is the only one that works for white people going forward.
Hence, the regime’s entire purpose is pretty much preventing white people from becoming racially aware and playing by the same rules as every other group.
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“the regime’s entire purpose is pretty much preventing white people from becoming racially aware and playing by the same rules as every other group”
That’s been American national policy since1861.
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The observation that “we can’t vote our way out of this” is powerful because it is true, but it is relatively unknown to normie conservatives.
I predict that at some point in the next 2-3 years, possibly after the next presidential election, this phrase will burst into the consciousness of normie conservatives, again, because its truth is undeniable. When that happens, some conservatives will radicalize, because there is nothing else that can be done.
Does anyone have any thoughts or stories about the effects of “we can’t vote our way out of this” on normie conservatives?
(It will be funny to watch guys like Hannity try to coopt this phrase and then turn around and tell us to vote harder anyway 🙂
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People are voting with their feet and with their unwillingness to degrade and debase themselves with military service among other things. Those are pretty clear signs we are in post-electoral times regardless of whether the people disengaging are conscious of it. We bash Normie a lot, but he is acting rather rationally.
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My family is overwhelmingly on our side, but it took time and patience to get them to understand and accept the situation.
The most effective question to ask is,”what policies are implemented that you voted for?”
The reality is that if every politician from the top to the local level disappeared overnight, (Think alien abductions) most people wouldn’t even notice.
They add nothing of value to the dirt folks lives.
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I believe any major celebrity who dares to discourage “Americans” from voting will be immediately deplatformed and probably persecuted. The Power Structure realizes that pointless voting, which signifies belief in Our Democracy, is the critical pressure relief-valve. If a large swathe of whites conclude that the so-called “democracy” is simply a sham and a mug’s game, social pressure will increase dangerously, and thoughts will turn, ineleuctably, toward extra-political measures to accomplish what voting cannot. In other words, condemning participation in the political process will be rightly seen as incitement to insurrection and even counter-revolution.
“some conservatives will radicalize”
I doubt it. “Conservative” is a personality trait, not a political platform. If there is going to be a political backlash, it won’t come from conservatives.
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Yes. If the election indeed were stolen in 2020, and I have come to think it really was stolen, it was because the Regime calculated that the Left it set into motion would explode and might secede if Trump were re-elected. The Regime correctly knew conservatives would at best do something along the lines of January 6.
When the UMC in the private sector and the managerial elite in the public no longer have heat and food, there will be an outright revolt. They are what we call “the Left” for the most part. We do have ongoing dissolution and people are voting with their feet, but that is a de facto rather than a de jure thing and most of those people leaving the hellholes are “conservative.”
Few era’s compare to this one. The men in powdered wigs in 1788 not knowing what was going to hit them. The same ones, no longer in powdered wigs, but dressed like tin soldiers in 1913. What’s coming is going to be just as bad. The only difference will be after a hundred years of “democracy” our country won’t have any dignity to lose, and the leaders being replaced won’t be replaced by moral inferiors as you can’t go below rock bottom. What little dignity that was preserved after the 1970’s was tossed into the garbage with the election of the homosexual black man in 2008, after being too badly damaged by the phony cowboy imbecile prior to him.
The entire Western world is a dusty wax museum waiting to burn down in an electrical fire.
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The dusty old wax museum is uninsured, too, and that will focus the mind when someone needs to buy a loaf. The smart money is on appeals to patriotism falling quite flat when it becomes apparent there is no bread to be had at any price. I think Lenin said something along those lines about bread with a side of peace.
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I have no illusions that my vote or even my opinion means much. Among republicans, I’d be torn between DeSantis and Trump. I’ve voted for both of them in prior elections. As a FL resident, I appreciate some things DeSantis is doing but I have misgivings. From a practical standpoint, we lose a good Governor if he’s successful.
In the normal course of events, a State governor has no business flying to Israel to sign a law against “anti-semitism.” That alone says a lot of where his loyalties lie. And, need I point out, that the best interests of White Christian Americans probably isn’t at the top of his list? But drag me back to reality: let’s face it, no sane politician is going to raise the Jewish Question nor even tackle the race issue. Maybe the latter, but only nibbling around the edges. We are in late empire stage; the best we’re going to get is a minor reform here or there. The systemic issues aren’t going to be fixed.
Although I’m not subversive by nature (beyond writing opinion like this), I think the most realistic path for true dissidents is to try and become as detached from systems, including the political, as one can. If you feel the need to be politically active, concentrate on local. And for God’s sake, give a thought before donating money to them.
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Ron DeSantis’ trip to Israel to sign away Floridian’s free speech is an indicator of what he is likely to do at the federal level. It is something he is specifically forbidden to have done at least according to the Constitution and the incorporation doctrine. OTOH, we know how Trump will govern.
There really aren’t any good options for 2024. I suppose it’s just as well because voting will solve nothing.
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A guy I know described himself as a “fascist hippie,” and I’ve stolen that for myself. Looking around, I see that all my goofy hippie college professors from 1992 were right about everything. Right for all the wrong reasons, it goes without saying, but nonetheless correct. Back then, the Left was anti-immigration, and the farther Left, the more anti-immigration. They were even right on the reason: Immigration unacceptably depresses wages for the natives. They went off the rails just after that — “something something the Socialist Revolution, comrade!” — but they were right.
You could reprint lots of articles from the 1992 editions of Mother Jones and have everyone here nodding along. Back then, they were sure that the CIA was out there starting wars for fun and profit, while their domestic Mini-Me, the FBI, was spying on everyone and conspiring to deny us our Constitutional rights. Back then, they were sure that if Big Pharma accidentally discovered the cure for cancer, they’d burn the formula and shoot the scientist, the better to protect their stock price. Back then, they were against NAFTA, for the same reason they were against immigration. Back then…
The point is, I’d be perfectly ok with a lot of what the 1992 Left called “Socialism.” Protectionism. Tightly controlled borders. Ending the War on Drugs (who needs it, if the borders are secure and all the methed-out and junked-out working class Whites have good blue collar jobs?). No pointless wars of choice. No color revolutions. Abolish the CIA *and* the FBI.
The first candidate who really leans into that — who takes his platform from the editorial board of The Nation, circa 1992 — will go very far.
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Spot on.
If you want to see something that will make your jaw drop, buy the trade paperback version of CAMP OF THE SAINTS and read the review blurbs from The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, and so forth on the cover. They are very, very effusive. None of those publications today even would review COTS, and all would demand anyone who praised it to be deplatformed and investigated.
Seriously, check it out.
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There are so many bleeding hearts when it comes to the immivasion I don’t hold out much hope.
I just had an argument with a guy on another site who thinks illegals are A-OK if they pay taxes.
There never has been, and never will be, any politics, anywhere, that isn’t heavily colored by the past. The past is what we know, and the habits acquired in the past are the heuristics that allow us to do 99% of everything we do everyday. This is just simple reality, and it does no good to complain about the human condition.
The decisive breaks in history are caused by “the circulation of elites,” i.e. the rapid replacement of the current ruling claque by those who, not lacking merit, were nonetheless excluded from power due to the inherent tendency of those already in power to use their power to protect their own privileges above all else. On the ideological level these power transfers sometimes take the form of competing visions, but on the real level they are more akin to magnetic field line reconnection—an old, encumbered, overly complicated system full of internal contradictions finally breaks down and snaps into a new arrangement with lower stresses. America is rapidly hurtling toward that day and will soon reach it, regardless of what anyone does or does not do.
The pity of Trump’s 2016 presidency was that it offered up a golden opportunity to relieve the stresses without tearing the whole structure apart and doing massive collateral damage. The regular business of the country was on its back foot after 8 years of Obama’s progressivism, and then out of nowhere comes this Refrigerator Perry named Donald Trump who can punch through and give ordinary America a much-needed first down. The problem was, our Refrigerator didn’t merely drop the ball, he ran it back the wrong way and then spiked it in the end zone for a safety. We ended up worse then where we started.
However, Trump is still the biggest, baddest thing on the field and we need him to win the game. Somehow we have to make this guy run the right way. Robert Barnes was has been forecasting a Trump/DeSantis ticket, which may be just the thing that provides Trump with needed direction and DeSantis with needed weight.
I hope those two can learn to get along, because we need them to.
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