The structure of this conference is a bit unusual, in that they have a normal room for speakers to give standard speeches. The afternoon, however, is broken up into smaller rooms where three or four famous people will address a topic. Each person gives a ten minute address and then they talk among themselves for a bit. Finally they take questions from the audience. These are held in smaller rooms, so everyone has a chance to ask their question if they like. I attended the session on immigration.
There was someone calling himself Mike Gonzalez, who gave a short history lesson on the origins of racial identities used by the government. He launched into a critique of the Frankfurt School, which had all the guys with yarmulkes nervous. They were talking into their watches, probably thinking they had a live one. Trouble was averted when Gonzalez changed the topic and got to his main idea, which is to remove the race and ethnicity questions from the census entirely. It would just be a simple counting of people.
This is so obviously insane that I suspect the Frankfurt School stuff was some sort of diversion, so the audience would not think his main idea was so wacky. His claim is that by dropping the race and ethnicity questions, set-asides and affirmative action will be impossible to administer, so they will be dropped. Once the benefits of racial categorization diminish, according to his theory, people especially non-whites, will stop identifying primarily by the tribe. We’ll all become Americans.
This has always been the habit of Buckley-style conservatism. Instead of addressing Progressive morality head on, they find an economic or legal remedy to achieve a conservative goal, without confronting left-wing morality. This approach never works, but old habits die hard. Then there is the fact that we would have no way of debating immigration, as we would have no way of knowing the demographic makeup of the country or the individual states…
Another speaker was a women calling herself Luma Simms, claiming to be an immigrant from Iraq. She gave a new age talk on something she calls “rootedness” which is the opposite of alienation. Her basic argument is that immigrants should not be made to assimilate, as the modern American culture lacks rootedness. These newcomers should not be forced to join the consumer race. That’s not a term she used, but it is what she was driving at. She reminded me of a very loud Marianne Williamson.
Mx. Simms provided the most entertaining exchange during the round table discussion part of the show. She said something along the lines of “Immigrants don’t come to America to be absorbed into the culture.” Amy Wax replied, “Then why are you here?” Surprisingly, Mx. Simms was unprepared for the question, but she recovered after a moment and went on a ramble about some hippy sounding stuff. She struck me as someone with a lot of dream catchers in her home and lots of scented candles…
During the Q&A, a few people asked about what can be done to address the flood of migrants and the speakers offered some suggestions. Finally, someone asked, “Since the track record on conservative solutions to immigration is not very good, we have to assume all of these ideas will fail. What is plan B?” The whole room erupted and even the speakers had to laugh. Amy Wax and Scott McConnell are both black pilled on the issue and said we are doomed. The other two had no answer…
Socializing with people here during breaks, there are two groups in attendance. There are normal people much closer to the dissident right than conservatism, but they have just not made the journey over the river. The other camp is the think tank people, media and government functionaries. Washington is a company town and that means there is a social scene. These conferences are a part of that scene. They use these events to network and maintain connections to others in the scene.
For example, at dinner on Monday night, I was seated next a woman who told me she works at AEI. I started grilling her on why she was attending a conference on nationalism, when she works for a notorious neocon outfit. She treated me like I was country rube who did not fully understand the complexity of the issue. The fact is, like a lot of people at this thing, she is here to mingle with friends. Keeping up appearances is an important aspect to the culture of the ruling elite. Instead of court, they have conferences.
That said, I was a bit surprised by the number of these people, who are quietly black pilled on what comes next for America. That sense of being oppressed dissidents makes a lot of sense in this context. These are people who probably came to Washington with the best of intentions, then saw it was a corrupt city full of people interested only in how much they can loot from the system. In other words, from the inside they see that reform is impossible, so whatever comes next will be from the outside…
I have been thinking about why Hazony made such a big deal out of rejecting people like Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor and Patrick Casey. One reason is he needs to rope in the Christian Zionists, which is why David Brog is involved in this project. Brog is a fanatical anti-white crusader. I heard more than a few people mention that his outbursts about racism were unnecessary and unpleasant. Having a volatile crank like that in the same room as Taylor or Brimelow would be a disaster.
Of course, this event is a sales pitch of sorts. The people from the think tanks and government agencies will report back to their respective home planets and talk to their colleagues about what they saw. If the lizard people I’ve been mingling with the last two days are satisfied that Hazony is not a danger, he can expect support from the community, as well as the donor community. This conference is part of the vetting process for Hazony and his team.
The sales pitch being made is a classic one in politics. The first part is a critique of conservatism, which everyone agrees has failed. Then the question becomes what will replace it as the dance partner of Progressivism. The pitch Hazony is making is that the choice is between his Hebrew nationalism and white nationalism. It’s the same argument Martin Luther King made in his Letter From a Birmingham Jail. The choice on offer is this thing you don’t like or something much worse…
This event has been a white pill for me. I could have done without the civic nationalist bromides and the hooting about racism, but the fact is the window is swinging our way inside the Imperial Capital. That’s not to say these people are going to start reading me or showing up at dissident events. It’s that they have taken the first step in this direction, which is recognizing the threat on their Right is legitimate. They are worried about us, as they know their kids are more interested in us than in them.
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How was this statement not followed by open laughter from the audience? McConnell and a few others had to look at this guy like he was mentally ill. Is this speaker and the woman who followed him from Iraq a sign they were scraping the bottom of the barrel to fill out their time slots?
Consider the audience. These people make their living as professional losers.
This is like a trade show where they learn new and innovative ways to lose.
:-)))))))))))))))
“Mike” Gonzalez is actually Miguel Alejandro Antonio Diego Esteban Santiago Gonzalez.
2 things-
1) He can run for president with a name like that. If Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho became president in Idiocracy, I don’t see why he can’t since we are pretty much living that movie at this point.
2) As a fun aside, if you type that comical name into Google just for fun the VERY first hit is a PDF of outstanding warrants for arrest in Plano, TX. So Ima just throw that out there because… yeah. 🙂 The jokes write themselves, even when they are real.
2)
Mike Gonzalez-I get baseball stats
Miguel Alejandro Antonio Diego Esteban Santiago Gonzalez-tutor assignments, University of Jaen, Spain PDF
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho-Idiocracy video clips
But then, I used Bing.
Funny.
Oh that was lovely.
Buckley Conservatism is NOT the conservatism of Edmund Burke. They are separated by the issue of “church and state”; Burke was not a fan, Buckley was.
Further, Buckley was not a family-first kinda guy. He was more a Statist.
Since both are dead and no longer of any relevance to this age, I would not waste a minute debating that point.
Er, Statist not the Buckley I remember at all. Our chief problem at the time was not surrendering the world in parcels to global communism; mostly the USSR and to a lesser extent China. This was a real existential threat. The Family situation was bad but nowhere near what it became later or now. Porn was in covers on bookshelves, etc. Buckley was deeply Catholic and certainly not anti-family. To call him a statist is nonsense and the opposite of the truth. When Buckley began New Deal Liberalism had triumphed over the Nazis and was fighting the Cold War. When… Read more »
When Buckley surrendered to the Civil Rights Movement, he threw it all away. We may as well be right back in 1948 for all the good he did. When you lose freedom of association, you lose everything.
Civil Rights, 1964. Hart-Celler, 1965. The fatal 1-2 punch.
The Beltway types are beginning to realize that Nationalism is the future – for both the Left and the Right. They’re trying to corral it in a CivNat form, but that’s so contradictory and unnatural that they’re, of course, failing. What’s more, once whites start to think in nationalist terms, it’s hard to miss the elephant in the living room: Americans Jews who give undying support for their ethno-state of Israel arguing against ethno-nationalism for any other group, particularly whites.
History is moving our way.
To the contrary. If what Z reports is true, the beltway believes nationalism can be safely shunted aside with more neoliberalism. While they are using civic nationalist verbiage and emoting in “blackpilled,” fashion, the sense one gets of the elite is that they have gone all-in with neoliberalism and that is the end of that. The diaspora in particular wants absolutely no part in any legitimate nationalism save for the Zionist variety. And Americans who pledge their last ounce of blood to the people of Israel show no signs of demanding even the least bit of reciprocal loyalty. History is… Read more »
Well, the men with little hats might be able to thwart gentile whites from moving to ethno-nationalism but they’re not going to stop other groups. If gentile whites fail to turn tribal, then we’ll fade away, overrun and integrated into more tribal groups. Sad but nature is a bitch.
Either way, history is moving against Globalism and toward Nationalism. The only question is whether whites will join in the fun or disappear.
Citizen: “Either way, history is moving against Globalism and toward Nationalism. The only question is whether whites will join in the fun or disappear.”
This. Another excellent, spot-on comment.
But it really isn’t and this “oh but if I die, the next guy will be a thousand times worse,” shtick is the most craven form of passive-aggression popular on the dissident right. You are being replaced, dissolved, etc. You are not seeing the cultivation of nation-states with meaningful sovereignty anywhere. You are seeing the success of neoliberalism in turning all manner of middling and low IQ savages into more or less docile consumers with a standard deviation or two more propensity for crime. What can’t last won’t, but don’t smugly pretend to have seen the future when not even… Read more »
“You are not seeing the cultivation of nation-states with meaningful sovereignty anywhere.” Ever been to China or Japan or South Korea. What about a little country called Israel. What about Russia or Hungary or Poland or Czech Republic or Slovakia. Nobody around the world wants what the West has. Sure they want to trade, but that’s it. I can’t see the future, but I can see which way the wind is blowing. Look at the Dems. You think that AOC or Harris is a “I don’t see color” CivNat? You think that they don’t view the world tribally? Globalism is… Read more »
A London future with an NHS economy, for a generation or so.
These conservatives who are transitioning to CivNats are trying to do it without the race issue. But they can’t keep a lid on it when there’s a constant drumbeat coming from the left, including the media, demonizing white people and white culture, and at the same time, shoving the glories of diversity in our face. How many more white people have recently latched onto racial consciousness after learning 007 is now going to be a black woman?
Are you effing kidding me!
I’m old enough to have seen Connery’s Bond in the theater. A Bond movie is about the only thing that will still get me into one of those places. Their drive to destroy everything normal and beautiful will drive more of our tribe crazy than will their political machinations.
It doesn’t matter. That battle is already lost. No matter what movie or TV show you see pretty much post 2005 you’re going to be subjected to gay porn. Don’t do that to yourself.
I’m waiting to see the advert with the Chinese man, his Nigerian wife, and their adopted Swedish looking thirteen year old boy wearing a dress. They’re at the pharmacy in the feminine hygiene section showing young Priscilla “her” options.
The media used to be a one-way tool for our enemies. Every show extolled the virtues of multi-everything but did a decent job of keeping the lid on the underlying hatred of whites from which multi-everything sprung.
Now, the media openly spews its hatred of white even while showing the happy multi-racial couples. The media’s propaganda is cutting both ways, and once a white person notices, they can’t help but get angry. Just wait til the media starts going after Beckys.
Once a white person notices, yes, they get angry. And they also never un-notice. While they want the constant bombardment of happy multiracial families and groups of friends to indoctrinate us into accepting it as normal and healthy, to those who Notice, it only increases the anger and disgust.
Just the sheer number of time they use the term white may backfire, and simply reify the idea of whiteness among white people themselves–or at the very least make it outstandingly clear to white people that they have been singled out as a target.
“All you white people with your white privelege and too many whites in professions X, Y, and Z, who have your whiteness…” et cetera.
As I said in a comment a few days ago, we should reappropriate the term “whiteness” itself from the left. Just start dropping it into our own articles in a positive way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation
For the gatekeeping phenomenon, I think of it as Jewish sheepdogs sent to herd the white sheep.
Any time the white sheep think of straying outside of their field, a Jewish sheepdog is dispatched to herd them into safer pastures.
Hazony, they’re on the loose in America! Go round ’em up and bring ’em back to the deracinated consumerist civnat pasture!
History is moving our way.
Demographics isn’t.
Thanks for this. This entire reply thread is so much mental masturbation I was starting to think I had landed on the American Conservative website by accident. There are 60 million hispanics in the US now and they breed geometrically. On the other suggestion- Whites cannot embrace tribalism, period. To do so is to instantly unperson yourself. Our own president is about to be ‘condemned’ by the House for even hinting about racial things indirectly. Unless every white person starts having 3-5 kids this is all rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. The comments here are usually very realistic and… Read more »
I used to think the future belonged to us and that victory was inevitable. A summer’s day in Virginia changed my mind.
You mean Charlottesville?
One day good or bad is not the stuff of victory or defeat.
Oh and the C-ville score is 1-0. So cheer up.
Absolutely correct. I’ll take number 2 and the ten percent of whites with some semblance of racial realism. We should be moving en masse to the redoubt where we can would have a fighting chance of forming an ethno state. Scattered and divided across the country as we are now, nothing will change and our future will continue on the slow path to oblivion.
History isn’t a straight line. A hundred years ago, whites dominated the world, and people seriously discussed the possibility that black Africans might just die away as whites overtook their lands. Hell, sixty years ago, whites were still on top of the world with no hint of what was to come. I agree that it’ll take a lot to Joe Normie off the couch, and even if he does, it might be too late. But here’s the thing: Whites are the most capable people on the planet. No other group combines our attributes of brains and the ability to work… Read more »
In Rhodesia and today in South Africa, whites have put up no fight against their enemies. What has to change for white Americans, Canadians and Europeans to act differently?
Maybe none. Should we just quit? Is that your answer?
If so, you might as well blow your brains out now so you’re not in our way. I have kids, so I’ll try.
Not disagreeing, that is my “X factor” equation but it is a variable and cannot be relied upon. It could be something very simple like the mass murder of a white family by black militants, egregious reparations ‘taxes’, etc. Small things can set off huge events we students of history are aware of this. Butterfly effect, and all that. And I also agree w/ others here that as they are now turning up the frog to “hard boil” the chance of such an event increases. Our current trajectory is bad is my point so plan appropriately until that ‘thing’ pops… Read more »
I have complete confidence in the ability of our enemies to push us to the point of 1 and 2 and 3. Sooner than later.
Our greatest ally in this will be the brown coalition. After the next election it will be constant chimpouts. Their organ grinders are losing their hold. We should monkey wrench them in any way we can.
We’re on the same page I think. If I could choose I’d pick your #2 but I think ‘organic history’ will pick for us.
To me, the most realistic action is babies, babies, babies, and more babies. Then home school them. It could take years, but look what the left has accomplished with patience. Alas, many of us are too old.
Rich, the Boom means babies, babies, babies happened AFTER the war.
(Then the economy boomed making hospitals, shoes, and schools for all those growing babies)
Maybe I should restate that: History is moving toward nationalism. Whether whites move with it is another story. My own belief is that a portion – anywhere from 10% to 50% – of whites will wake up. So yeah, that’s a lot of dead or lost to miscegenation whites, but many will come out the other side and they’re all that we need. We’re not only our worst enemy, we’re our only enemy. I might harp a lot on the Jews, but they’re more like a con man. Once you know about the con, there’s not much they can do.… Read more »
That’s how I read you, I just wanted to mention that gorilla in the room; we re losing our countries (Im in Europe).
Bah. If the Black Death couldn’t do us in, some conniving schemers won’t either.
History is moving our way BECAUSE the demographics are not. If the USA was still 90%+ white there would be no need for a DR. We ARE the reaction.
It’s a race yes. I’m not sure we’re currently winning that race.
You want it easy.
Nothing worth doing or having is easy.
And no fight is ever “sure”.
So far, we haven’t even joined in. If it looks like we have a mountain to climb it’s because we’ve spent the last 4 decades dawdling around in the base camp. We’re getting our crampons on now.
Bingo.
Stress changes a people. You can’t take the past 50 years where whites were utterly oblivious to even the possibility of losing their lands and say that’s how we’ll act over the next 50 years.
I laugh when I imagine an AEI functionary dismissing Z as a rube. If she only knew the thought criminal she was condescending to.
I am encouraged that the realization that “conservatives always lose” is considered common knowledge among the attendees. Everyone in the country knows this except the conservatives. (To be fair, conservatives have defended the 2A, but their defeats far outweigh their successes.)
The professional conservatives know it too, the upsetting thing for them would be that the audience is noticing. That couldn’t have gone over well with the organizers.
The Beltway types are just running out the clock now. As long as the checks keep rolling in, they’ll dance, but their hearts aren’t in it.
Sounds like both the gentile and Jewish “conservatives” simply don’t know how to deal with the changes around them, so instead of crafting a new strategy, they rail against the tide and hope things will go back to what they were. A lot of Roman officials did the same thing in the 5th century. Didn’t work for them either.
What are the other RW victory’s?
Or Reaction’s?
Nationalism / right wing politics hasn’t really been tried in America
American Conservativism has had power for a long time and the result was about what you’d expect from a conservatism based on conserving liberalism.
There is no guarantee about what comes next but someone has to actually try
But as I explain below that’s not what happened. Nor was it the goal. Nor intent. You are all looking now and assuming that its always been this way. Of course not. You’re alive for one thing. It was much, much harder for young RW before the wall went down, before the internet. All we had were subscription periodicals. Then we had Reagan. Even Rush Limbaugh didn’t exist until 1987 when the FCC lifted the fairness doctrine. Prior to that we barely existed and with nothing nationally at all. Frankly so many are past whining how hard it is (when… Read more »
White pill indeed.
Yes they know they’re Doomed, but change nothing.
That’s my beef with Black Pillers. Not their facts but their counsels of despair.
So keep right on following the ZOG Emperor, right?
See MYS below.
Despair is as useful as used toilet paper.
And directly: YES.
Follow the ZOG Emperor.
You might want to look up Trump’s history with Roy Cohn while you’re at it.
Who is using whom?
There are no useless things, only feeble imaginations. ( And yes, you may quote me. )
Yeah, you’re suggesting out-Jewing the Jew. Good luck with that.
Agree, despair is about as useful as used toilet paper.
Did you make your presence widely known? Possibly for these sinecured conservatives, they may never have heard of you. Tell me you privately stirred a little shit up.
Seems like this was a hands on museum of 20th century conservatives. Ah, the memories. Still my take on this is a variation of the biblical admonition. It’s not just the poor we will always have with us, but the Tribe members.
I thought the article yesterday would make it easy for Z to get doxxed.
Good point. Being a little paranoid doesn’t hurt these days.
Blathering will only be a useful skill if the option of “talking our way out of the problems we are in” is on the table. Nearly everyone would prefer to believe that that option is viable, despite the reality that politics is the manifestation of this strategy and look what that has accomplished. Why not use these conference opportunities to spread real wisdom like . . . don’t be in a city when the chaos erupts.
Ol’ Remus: “as always, remember… stay away from crowds.”
Z Man said: “This event has been a white pill for me. I could have done without the civic nationalist bromides and the hooting about racism, but the fact is the window is swinging our way inside the Imperial Capital. ” That’s lovely. I’m all for people coming to their senses. But the thing about, “their kids are more interested in us than in them.” That to me is the key right there. Other than suffering some serious damage to their personal situation, I can’t see the parents getting too close to the White side. They’ve just got too much… Read more »
Official Bologna Tester: “learn from your enemies. Vladimir Lenin said: “Give me just one generation of youth, and I’ll transform the whole world.” I sort of know someone involved in various verboten activities and groups. This person is between 25-30 and is still among the oldest in the group. I personally doubt any noticeable percentage of older normies are going to be truly red pilled soon enough for it to matter. We need to aim our education efforts, if any, toward young men aged 15-35. The women are still lost and too entitled/emotional to waste time on, and neither political… Read more »
3g4me said: “Red pill all the younger men you know. They’ve grown up as an openly despised minority already, and with appropriate leadership could prove key.” Exactly. Get them as young as you can but old enough to understand what the hell your talking about. The lift side have known this sense forever.
And where Chad goes, Becky will follow.
On the one hand, these Flim Flam Men will continue to compose the bulk of any further Republican Administrations.
On the other, this will be the last Republican Administration…
“That’s not to say these people are going to start reading me or showing up at dissident events.” Zman, I think it’s a foregone conclusion that they do read you, Taylor and Brimelow. I also think it’s quite possible the ones in charge of this event know full well who you are, but allowed you in because you blog about these issues in a sensible manner, but are less notorious and ‘public’ than some of our other esteemed dissidents. It would also provide them with a useful metric to see you blog about it and observe the reaction of true… Read more »
“I truly loathe and despise these people.” SEA CHANGE I’ve been there for about a year now, after watching their insane reaction to Pres. Trump, who is basically a nice guy boomercuck. The enemies of the American nation, the enemies of the mere existence of any European nation, do not live in Moscow. They do not live in Beijing. They do not live in Tehran. They live in the Axis of Globalist Evil cities of New York City, Washington DC, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. They hate us and want us gone from the face of Earth. Most of the social… Read more »
If they knew who Z was they would have a thirty minute ritual to kick him out, for the sole reason that they would be afraid Buzzfeed may tell the world a badthinker attended their event.
LOL, I wonder how many grifters who secretly read and listen to Zman as forbidden-fruit reality porn heard his right-wing NPR voice and realized, “Oh, my god, it’s him!”
Brad: Strongly disagree. Regardless of Zman’s own moderation and reasonableness, he permits us unfettered free speech here and there is no way the tribe would condone any of the noticing that goes on here. If any of them knew who he truly was online, he would be out of work already and this site would be under permanent attack. Despite Zman believing they know the future is outside their circle, they sure as hell don’t want anyone saying that or acting on that outside permitted limits. It’s just another (((gatekeeper))) front where, among themselves, they know the gig is up.
“Instead of addressing Progressive morality head-on, [Buckley conservatives] find an economic or legal remedy to achieve a conservative goal, without confronting left-wing morality.”
You put that so well, Zman. If you go on Youtube and watch some of those old Firing Line shows, it becomes painfully apparent what Buckley was up to. This is why I keep waiting for Tucker to drop the other shoe and really challenge some of the Progressive boiler-plate issues. The time has come.
I’m glad Zman can find something to be white pilled about. If I were him I just be pissed I forgot my flamethrower.
Hans, get de flammenwurfer
Whatever these people are they tell us everything we need to know. Worried? You bet they are. Regardless, I still have that strong desire to fire up the V8 and head out for parts unknown. Whatever happens wherever we end up the parts unknown are always out there. Just like the idiots that were at the conference. They are not fooling anyone. It is what they always try to do. Assholes.
The capitals of old empires from the Egyptians and Sumerians to the English and Russians were also cultural capitals. They laid the foundations of the civilizations they politically ruled over. Memphis, Ur, Persepolis, Athens,Rome, …London…they are still important not because they simply ruled but because they built the culture. They were all true capitals of civilizations.
Washington, D.C.? Beyond political rule that devolve into a bureaucratic wasteland D.C. contributed what to American Civilization? Almost every place outside of Washington, even small backwaters had more to do with creating the culture.
American nationalists need to read the Zionist literature. Much of the ongoing debate about nationalism occurred in the Zionist literature during the early 1900s. Harzony’s position on nationalism was already critiqued in the 1990s to early 2000s in the Zionist literature. The objections to nationalism were voiced in the Zionist literature pre-1930s. The template for the response to internationalism vs nationalism has already been written. BTW ask Harzony if Jabotinsky was correct about the Arabs and Zionism.
Subject matter aside, I don’t get the repeated use the past few days of “I met a person calling himself …” or “I listened to someone calling herself …”
Are you implying these are not their real names or that their identities are fraudulent in some way? I usually enjoy your writing but the editor in me would have to ask what point someone calling himself the z man is trying to make here.
“….Someone calling himself Tucker Carlson” would have been funny, though
Known Fact said: “Are you implying these are not their real names or that their identities are fraudulent in some way?” I don’t know, but Maybe Mr. Z is just saying he considers all these people phonies, and a phony by any other name…
That jumped out at me too. I don’t think these people have any need to obscure their identities.
OT Z but I’m on a tear. Sometimes you have to rally the troops by telling them to stop complaining. Here’s real USG Deplatforming in action. The FCCs Fairness Doctrine which was Law 1949-1987. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Fairness-Doctrine If you wanted conservatism you had to subscribe to a magazine. Worse – you actually had to pay. I imagine many of you are horrified. But that was the only place you wouldn’t get Liberal Orthodoxy. Exclusively. Otherwise it was non-existent. The Right wing existed in mailed magazines. The Left had everything. Mind you they weren’t as crazy as today by an order of magnitude.… Read more »
Just started reading “A Book Of Contradictions” (7/14), and found this: “there are only two people I know who have written about the emotional impact of the holocaust on Jewish identity. Me and Hazony.”
Huh. That’s true, and I agree with Zman’s approach-
but they didn’t start teaching about the Holocaust in Israel until 1970.
This event sounds like a NeoCon petting zoo.
Nice write-up. Some of it sounds like the same old think-tank hustle – they don’t really know what’s going on and don’t even particularly care, but have to pretend to come up with solutions (like eliminating race on the census) in order to keep getting funding. It’s actually better for them if the ideas are so ridiculous that no one will ever try them, because then they don’t have to admit failure or come up with new solutions. Even if they came to Washington with the best of intentions, I don’t have a ton of sympathy. Incurably stupid people with… Read more »
It sounds like every attendant is a gtiftet schmoozing with the other grifters to ensure they are within the acceptable bubble.
The lectures are just window dressing. This is good for our side, since it proves they have no actual convictions but will sway without a fight if we hit them hard enough
An interesting point about grifters, they will change positions depending on what’s most beneficial to their grift. Not sure however, that makes them less dangerous. In this I agree with Z-man, least these grifters form a fifth column within the movement.
One point that needs to be emphasized to the civic nationalists is that civic nationalism can only function within the context of ethnic nationalism. That is, it originated as a political system of northwestern European white people and can only function among them. I know we like to bash the libertarians here, but I think a redpill moment for many of them (including me) was the realization: “oh, man, this system can only function among high-trust white societies with common cultural assumptions.” In fact I used to think of myself as a “national libertarian,” “libertartianism in one country.” Come to… Read more »
It’s almost as if a successfully functioning state is a reflection of biology!
MemeWarVet—wonderfully stated. 😉
T Babe; I think you’re on to something rhetorically. But obvious objections to your exact formulation exist in North Asia, specifically in Japan and S Korea. Both are first world, functional nations that are most certainly not white in a racial sense but are at least as democratic as we actually are (oligarchies with democratic trappings where voters can make a difference at turning points, but usually don’t get the chance). But they *are* ethnically and culturally pretty homogeneous. So we used to be too. The real point of America CivNatism was to paper over the natural rivalries of the… Read more »
Another speaker was a women calling herself Luma Simms, claiming to be an immigrant from Iraq.
Nice touch, Z.
Did she claim her brother was her husband, too?
This is very interesting for me to read. I can tell that I am ‘softer’ than Z b/c some of what he reports from the conference, disapprovingly it seems to me, sounds ‘reasonable’ to me. But then again, my views are still in flux since I woke up from trad civ nat, what, 7?, years ago. Maybe future me will say ‘gosh, Z (and others) were right and I was still semi-blue pill (which I probably still am).’ Meekly though it sounds, I would really like to avoid genocides and not just of whites. I dont know what my views… Read more »
M y S;
I’m guessing Spanish Civil War scenario with an extra helping of ethnic cleansing, unfortunately. Plus, at some point early on, the Coastals will try to invite some foreign power to intervene in their behalf. Then it will really become ‘interesting’. My God help us.
You could well be right. Keep at least one gun,and some ammo in a common cal, no one else knows about.
“the Coastals will try to invite some foreign power to intervene in their behalf.”
Oh shucks. Oh shinola.
Now I know why China was quickly lifted up from a 1950s economy on bicycles, and given nuclear weapons and launch capability.
Moran – the more you read – truly read without feeling you are personally under attack but really look at the logic and reasoning and facts – the redder you will get. Not only was I raised a shitlib, but I moved to basic beginner’s nationalism and patriotism in the mid 80s (too late to vote for Reagan). My husband and I started reading Townhall back around 2000 and we considered it cutting edge. But I have this habit of clicking on links other readers provide and I kept finding all these evil hate sites – many long gone now… Read more »
Yeah, I keep moving ‘red’ and I ll end up making Genghis Khan (a man I honestly admire but OT) looking bleeding heart if that continues, eventually. But the old blue pill still kicks sometimes.
These pseudo-intellectuals who presume they’re our advocates … they’re playing civilizational Jenga, and they’re playing it blind with two left feet. When the blocks tumble it’s going to be Balkanization and quite-likely genocide – the grapes of wrath are inexorably maturing. That’s the way natural law works … e.g. gravity is a wonderful force when we yield & cooperate with its constraints, but catastrophic when we jump off a building. These pseudo-conservatives are encouraging us “country rubes” to get excited about skydiving without parachutes.
Personally, I think things are way beyond what talking about it (and voting) can solve, but at least recognize how they are shouting us down. “Social Justice” is the point of the intellectual spear, and the label that is put on the sales job done on the normies. SJ is a sham, as it is the attachment of a moral weight to every action and statement made by anyone. This is what cults do, and it is done to us all day, every day. Worse than that, the moral weighting has context attached to it, and that is how Trump… Read more »
Dutch said: “It allows and justifies the worst things said about us and done to us, yet holds us as guilty if we make a peep in any direction. It’s time to call out SJ for the sham that it is, instead of avoiding the argument.” Oh me. I guess I’ll have to keep posting this quote by Theodore Dalrymple untill everyone has seen it. This will tell you why it well only be personaly beneficial to call out the rage heads.No one else will give a damn. But hey, don’t get me wrong. If you want to go out… Read more »
Calling out the rage heads is indeed pointless (IMHO), but understand how the normies are being fooled here. Social Justice has its own intellectual justification, which goes beyond forcing people like us to acquiesce to their claims. It also drops an intellectual invisibility cloak around how it works, for the normies. For us, the Dalrymple quote is appropriate. For the normies, maybe Zappa, and the removing of the stage curtains to show the bare wall behind is perhaps a better reference. What is being used by SJWs on us will be openly deployed on everyone, including much of the Left,… Read more »
Last line is the money shot.
As a person who finds reptiles to be majestic in their own primordial way, I take offense to calling Washingtonian scum “lizard people”. Our squamate friends deserve better than to be compared to such rabble.
Spent a lot of time around alligators in my youth. They are utterly logical and binary. Are you a meal or a threat?Beauty of limited processing power is there is no wasted or gratuitous activity.
More moving Overton Window by Americas Demon Lover; The 45th President. He’s moving it on race. Its ok for white people to tell white hating immigrants to get out. We know cuz Apex White Man just said so. But he’s not racist. He said so. And they’re comments are anti-Israel (the media cannot ignore this dropped penny, they must pick it up). And Kellyanne Conway called them the “Dark Underbelly” of America. But she’s not racist, they are. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/453287-conway-progressive-congresswomen-represent-dark-underbelly-in-this?amp Nothing racist about Dark Underbelly. You liberals just have dirty minds. The Frame is being moved. And he’s getting re-elected in… Read more »
Incredibly, this David Brog is Ehud Barak’s cousin – and he was head of a pro-Israel Christian organisation. That’s one of those things that just has to sink in…
I always especially enjoy these travelogue columns.
this David Brog is Ehud Barak’s cousin
You mean this Ehud Barak?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/israels-ehud-barak-i-visited-epsteins-island-but-never-met-any-girls?ref=home
The same Ehud Barak with extensive financial ties to Epstein’s honeypot operation. Hmmm.
One of the movers and shakers of Israel’s Foreign Ministry, the one that directly funds 100 NGO groups, who supply the ships that pick up Africans and Mideasterners bound for Europe.
And working with the 100 dual-citizen NGOs in America that are bringing people from 57 countries to our southern border.
Why would these types hold a conference to give civnat media their talking points? Something… almost like a pattern…
I can see why zman regards this conference as a white pill. I concur. The whole reason for this conference is because Conservative Inc., knows that Causa Nostra exists, is growing and is something with which they have to grapple. Would this conference have taken place even a year ago?
Did I just hear Marianne Williamson on WABC New York?
Her version of the Pledge:
“We the people of the United States…”
(crowd repeats in a chorus)
“We apologise.”
(crowd: “We apologise.”)
“Please forgive us.”
(crowd: “Please forgive us.”)
Meet the new Gatekeeper . Conway moves the Overton. Conway holds a knife to their throats. (((Them))). Notice he backs down and refuses to play the antisemite card. Because now we’ve got them. And they know it. Their fate is on our hands. I’m your best friend and your worst enemy. The real Trump Doctrine. This is Trump’s policy on trade and defense with Germany. On trade with China. On the border with Mexico – trade used there to great effect. This is NYC real estate/politics by Roy Cohn’s apprentice who is now the Necromancer. I’m your best friend and… Read more »
“…then saw it was a corrupt city full of people interested only in how much they can loot from the system.” Exhibit A: Stefan Halper (of Trump/Russia conspiracy notoriety). If you want to see how the grift is played by a real master, check out the report below and the accompanying article: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/constituents/DoD%20OIG%20Memo%20on%20ONA%20Contracts%20with%20Professor%20Halper%20%20-%20D2019-D000AX-0104.pdf https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/15/stefan_halpers_wages_of_spying.html As Felten observes, “If the experience of Halper is any sort of example, then writing a research project for the ONA [Department of Defense’s Office of Net Assessment] is a sweet gig. So sweet that Halper managed to collect $1.05 million from the office over four… Read more »