A general assumption, even by the biology deniers, is that China will eventually surpass the West, because China is full of smart people. There’s no questioning the underlying assumption, as China always comes out at or near the top in IQ studies. This replicates in the United States, where East Asians are dominating admissions for elite preparatory schools and colleges. Pretty much everyone agrees this is mostly due to the fact that Asians are smart people, who also work hard and value education.
There’s one problem with the China supremacy claim and that is China has always been smart, but China has always been China. It has never been Renaissance Europe or even Industrial Europe. Occidental people have conquered the world and built global empires, while East Asians have struggled to control their own turf. Even now, China has a per capita GDP one fourth of Mississippi, the poorest state in the union. Those smart Chinese have a long way to go to catch the West.
China’s inability to get over the hump and become something like a Western country is an important thing to consider. To assume, as many IQ absolutists do, that their mental firepower will be enough, is to miss the forest for the trees. Clearly, there is something else to it, as China should have dominated the world a long time ago, if IQ was as determinant as some claim. It should not have taken the Industrial Revolution two centuries to sink roots in China if it was only about IQ.
This is important to consider when thinking about the demographic changes happening in America. Those East Asians pushing out the remaining whites from elite schools will, presumably, begin to take up positions in the ruling class. This was the pattern with Jews who first flooded into colleges, then it was elite colleges and then finally the institutions. When you look at the enrollments of elite schools, whites are the most under-represented group now. That will only get worse.
The question then is what sort of ruling class will we have when Asians take up positions in the American elite. More precisely, what sort of ruling class will we have when it is a Jewish and Asian ruling elite, with a passive white rump and some browns tossed in as decorations. Given the clannishness of Jews and East Asians, that is the most likely result of what we are seeing. The Antwerp diamond market offers some clues as to how this will play out over the coming years.
One thing to consider is that East Asians and Jews may thrive in occidental societies, but only because those societies provide the right framework for them. On their own, in control of their own lands, both groups have punched well below their IQ. Just as China has under-performed based on IQ, Israel is an under-performer. There are other issues for Israel, obviously, but Israel could not survive on its own without support from the West, especially the United States. No one disputes this.
Like China, Israel has had many chances to get her act together and exploit her human capital, but it has always ended in tears. Israel always ends up being a nation of oxpeckers with no big game as a host. Instead they succumb to picking at one another until they exhaust themselves. Eventually they fling open the gates to a conqueror in order to have a natural landing spot. Israel is a land of advisers and critics, perpetually haggling with one another until some outsider ends the bickering.
Of course, China has always been a land with very rigid vertical and horizontal social relationships. The Chinese tendency toward authoritarian bureaucracy was too strong for Marxism and now too strong for neo-liberalism. China today is the same place Marco Polo found seven centuries ago, just decorated with technology appropriated from the West. China is proof of the great chain of causality. Her biology and culture dictate the institutions, politics and economics.
What does this mean for America when the ruling class is dominated by Asians and Jews, with a sprinkling of whites and browns? Given that neither group is equipped to operate a modern occidental society, the choices are collapse or a slow retooling of America to reflect the biology of the new ruling class. How a naturally authoritarian people will work with a naturally subversive people is a mystery. In fact, it seems unlikely that such an arrangement could work at all.
Another possible outcome is that the decline reaches a point at which Jewish and Asian exceptionalism begin to reverse. The circumstances that presently allow for their success disappear and they begin a steep decline in terms of group success. In a world where getting into a good prep school and then an elite college is declining in value, the ability to game those systems quickly loses value. Think of a world in which no one trusts the media. Having control of the media is a liability, not an asset.
This is why fears of a ruling class dominated by people of an Oriental outlook is probably misplaced. The displacement of whites from the ruling class is just another symptom of the decline. It is a phase that will lead to greater social unrest and instability as North America slowly becomes majority-minority. A ruling class distrusted by and alien to the majority of the population is not going to have a long future, no matter how smart and ruthless they are as people. Numbers still matter.
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This is anecdotal, so bear that in mind. I have noticed that the higher you go in IQ, generally the weirder and stranger people get. The people I have known with tested genius IQ, the child prodigies, the graduated high school early and finished college in their teens, that kind, most are the spergs, the people who can’t handle social situations or pick up social cues, and have the oddball habits and behaviors. The Mad Scientist trope exists for a reason. I had college professors that do multi-variable calculus in their heads, but one wore velcro-strapped shoes because he said… Read more »
That poor sap in China being interrorgated and humiliated in China is a good insight for us. I recommend watching some based Youtube channels like Serpentza ( a white South African) living in China. I think China’s clamping down may force him out of the country, if he’s lucky. We western caucasians are going to have to relearn what it is that brought us so high. Of course now may be too late because idiocracy may have taken too strong a hold on us. Asian IQ in Japan was also a big thing talked about in the 80’s. The future… Read more »
Stand still dont make any sudden movements and try not scare those chickens coming home to roost.
How come “chickens coming home to roost” never applies to what allegedly happened to a particular group from 1942-45?
What are you talking about? You want us to send in the Japanese again to take care of the Chinese? Unit 731 redux? They weren’t talking about chickens back then.
Think about the chair itself for a second. Somebody had to design that chair. And then teams of people had to put it into production. Imagine what kind of mindset lies behind all that.
Odds that it involved “design and build this chair or we will take you out back and shoot you”?
Great column!
To assume, as many IQ absolutists do, that their mental firepower will be enough, is to miss the forest for the trees. Clearly, there is something else to it, as China should have dominated the world a long time ago, if IQ was as determinant as some claim.
Just so. Show us the Nobels or GTFO.
So IQ doesn’t matter now?
China hasnt “dominated” because they are not hell bent on exploitation. That is why Africa loves them.
“That is why Africa loves them.”
This is a joke, right?
Yes, China is all benevolence in Africa.
Don’t feed him. We’re having a troll outbreak these days and their strategy is to clog up the threads.
IQ doesn’t exist until WW1 when the US army used it to classify inductees, blew up in WW2 to avoid combat from then thru Vietnam, was mortally wounded by diversity below and clever sillies from above (think- economists) and is discredited by real life. IQ will not be a metric in 100 years. In any case our problem is we lost our balls, but their dropping back. Nature was for a time banished but he returns.
Anyone who’s been to Asia is not impressed once you get out of the hotel/expat zone.
Amen.
Yeah, Z, you gotta start zapping the trolls, before they junk up the whole blog.
I’m not sure he/she/them…is a troll. They may be just good old fashioned stupid.
We must be hitting someone’s nerve we all know who that is…
Perhaps a troll, perhaps not. IQ as I understand it in such discussion—say West vs East, was never that it was a “sufficient” condition, but a “necessary” one. As Z-man points out, China anecdotes are often brought up as proof. Seems they can do quite well copying (stealing) Western tech, but the creation of such is another matter and currently in debate. I’ve worked with faculty who have long collaborated with Chinese and Japanese faculty on joint research. They seemed quite pleased with the collaboration. If it were one-sided, I doubt it would have continued. One thing we tend to… Read more »
Someone has to live on the hard left side of the bell curve.
When you beat the trolls hard enough – sooner or later they explode and go away.
Permanently.
I say this from experience.
Is that why China is now declaring almost the entire South Sea as their own territory?
What matter the South china sea to us?
They are not HELL BENT ON EXPLOITATION!?!?!? Are you living in reality? WTF? I don’t mind an occasional troll from you guys but when you troll, please show some intelligence….
LOL.
So you’re saying if the smooth talkers convince you to allow a little anal buggery – and you grow to like it……. it’s not exploitation?
It’s ok 2b white.
It also takes other qualities besides smarts in order to be successful. Termperment, charm, likability, empathy, confidence, attractive, risk taking, honesty, chemistry.
Especially honesty- and here the Asians are fucked.
We see this shaking out in what degrees these two groups get. East Asians dominate STEM. Prog Whites are the major force in the humanities.
We get Asians maintaing the infrastructure for Chinese exploitation, Jews running the culture, Hispanics doing the labor, Whites dying of fentanyl (from China) and Blacks chimping out on whoever they can reach.
The future is going to suck. I have hope for China just becuase the CCP is so vicious and devious in regards to controlling the technological infrastructure of the future like 5G and gene editing.
“East Asians dominate STEM. Prog Whites are the major force in the humanities. ”
But what about the other topic on hand, the Jews?
Prog white, Jews, what’s the difference.
They run the Trump Admin…
I have disclosed on here that I work at a fairly high-level in the tech sector with some of the world’s biggest tech companies. I am entirely confident that China will win the tech race and will dominate the world in 50-100 years. The US will continue to dominate global finance until the dollar collapses as the reserve currency, then it will recede into second-tier status, a fate which we well deserve given our many missteps of the past 50 years. China has spent the last 30 years constructing a global trade network that procures raw materials resources across the… Read more »
The key difference at work is that the Chinese ruling class understands that science, technology, and the resources to power them is at the root of economic and military success while the West’s has what I would call a financialized understanding of those things. The idea is that you just go to this mysterious place called “The Market” and buy whatever scientists and technologists you need for the lowest possible price. This is why our elite floods us with Indians and East Asians to do our science “for us”. To them you just pay Pajeet to do your technical work… Read more »
And carbon taxes, don’t forget carbon taxes.
I am entirely confident that China will win the tech race and will dominate the world in 50-100 years.
At least until they run short of rice and fuel.
Yeah sure, they have that whole dominate technology, trade, and finance thing going for them, but what are they doing to celebrate trans-gendered persons of minority status? The fools! They’ll never be as progressive as university-educated white kids!
“persons of minority status?” I think all whites should check either the “Native American” or “African-American” box on forms and surveys. The first out of deliberate misunderstanding (or if you prefer: “I stand with Liz!”), and the second because “I believe in the Out of Africa hypothesis — because I believe in SCIENCE! So of course my heritage is African.” (I really think this is why the fascination with Neanderthal DNA — people are so sick of the various African problems that they devoutly want to set themselves apart by any means.) We should ALL be permanent victims. (We should… Read more »
DAD: You see all this, my son? Generation after generation has contributed hard work, effort, vision, genius, struggle, devotion, careful planning, sometimes even the harsh sacrifices of war… all of it an immense effort to create this, our prosperous homeland, which will be your patrimony, your heritage and inheritance. SON: Wow, thanks, Dad. DAD: Oh, I nearly forgot. It will also be the patrimony and inheritance of 80 or 90 million foreigners, complete strangers who just showed up recently, who didn’t struggle or work etc, etc, they just filled out some paperwork, or told a clever sob story — and… Read more »
Great take. The story of Gen XYZ. I’m ashamed it took me years to see the Con Inc. snow-job in this light. IQ is nice but wisdom is often more useful and comes at a higher empirical price. Unlike the poor Zoomers I had a few years of normal life before the Darkness fell.
“Jews running the culture”
You (or spellcheck) misspelled “ruining”.
If you look at per capita income, Japan ranks 24th, just above Italy — 151 years after the Meiji Restoration. Above it only are white countries, small oil enclaves and gambling Macau.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Per capita income is a poor representation of the wealth distribution in a country. Particularly the USA. To wit, give or take a few percent, the top 10% of folk in this country have 80% of the wealth. Look it up.
When one is hoping that their paycheck does not run out before their monthly bills, does it really console them that Bloomberg is now worth $50B.
The main things holding Chinese back are their fear of losing face and desire to fit into the herd mentality that accompanies it. Those traits of the culture stifle innovation and intellectual exploration. I lived in China and business execs found that the Chinese would work diligently and doggedly if you told them to do X. However, if you said to them “Figure out the solution” they would panic. What happens if they are wrong? It doesn’t help that their whole education system is built on memorization with negative consequences for getting it wrong. Intellectual curiosity is simply not a… Read more »
“their whole education system is built on memorization”
Is it true that the Chinese system of writing is based upon the memorization of a gazillion pictograms, vice a grammar/logic linguistic system? Is this germane to the copy-but-do-not innovate meme?
I share your….Optimism?
Well Merry Christmas indeed!
Z finally writes an optimistic column. I wryly smile because this is optimism in our current situation.
It did make me feel strangely good. I’ve read lots of stuff on the Chinese and Jews, but I’ve never read anyone come to the conclusions that Z has. It makes a lot of sense. I think I’ll poke my Chinese friends about it. They’ll get real indignant!
So far as internal US politics and power structures are concerned, I don’t think the “Asian threat” is coming from the Chinese so much as it is coming from Indians (and to a lesser extent, Pakistanis). Chinese may have higher IQs on average than Indians, but when you’re talking about “talent pools” that number a billion-plus on each side, even a 1% smart fraction is a huge number (and it’s probably more like 10%). I say this because Indians seem generally better at verbal acuity, rules lawyering, “office politics” and generally sucking up and shitting down. Both the Chinese and… Read more »
“China today is the same place Marco Polo found seven centuries ago, just decorated with technology appropriated from the West.” Z-man: I’m glad you write thoroughly argued viewpoints but you have one indispensable sentence like this every day – a sentence that captures the entirety of the argument. I just read a good book on “why the West won” and it highlighted the several inventions of the Chinese (e.g. gunpowder) that were never exploited because of their cultural depravity. Technology doesn’t change primitive minds. High IQ is apparently mutually exclusive of high culture. When the Great Fracture comes – and… Read more »
The secret white weapon is community. It is sharing, caring, providing and protecting. Remember the old Norman Rockwell magazine covers? The thanksgiving dinners and so on? They may be a bit cheesy, but try to picture them populated with any other racial or ethnic group. It simply doesn’t compute. Our secret is community, which is why the fentanyl and illegals are imported, and the schools and the churches are pozzed. It’s why our politics and our media are poisoned. To break down our community is to take away our kryptonite. Which tells us what we need to do.
Great points. And community means physical collocation, adjacency, which then allows interdependent communities building together in parallel. In our generation I think we can still forge community in nearly every state, and several of us are beating the same drum when it comes to community. I do think young folk need to think carefully about where they situate their young families. The 2020 census and post-election data depicting county-by-county vibrancy should be a guiding light. Nothing cheesy about Rockwell. Nor Mayberry. I was watching an old 1960s variety show with my kids last night … an amazing venture into who… Read more »
Re: the 2020 census. I’ve struggled for work the last few years due to a disability, and applied last year to do work-from-home for the census. I’m pretty well-educated (well, very well-educated), but despite that, checking that “disability” box on a job application for the census should at least get me in the door for an interview. I’ve reached out to a half-dozen people, some high up in the Bureau, as well as a congressional office who intervened on my behalf. No dice. Whenever I called up to the local office, I basically felt like I needed to know Spanish… Read more »
Agreed, that’s why Trumps Admin was so desperate to try and make sure the Census wasn’t accurate.
If anything, all Americans should want to see reality instead of trying to suppress facts.
Same experience for me with the census. There were flyers all over town about jobs, jobs, jobs working on the census. So I applied to see if I could make some additional money. I didn’t hear anything for months. Then I got an email that said they’ve filled all the positions they need right now, but next year there will be more hiring. Somehow I’m not optimistic.
The secret white weapon is community…
That’s a part of it Brother but I think God is what made it possible for the West to be what it is today and the reason why the west is failing because it turned it’s back on God…
Scripture contains so many “one another’s”. Note that instruction is directed at the Body of believers. Service, charity and sacrificing is part of the individual’s daily walk as we are called to love our neighbors. So let’s build our future neighborhoods.
Yes, another piece of it, it all goes together and reinforces each other. From family, to neighborhood, to town, to state, to country. It’s all about pulling together and looking out for each other, and doing so in a way that honors what God expects of us, and owning and living those expectations, rather than shunning and rejecting them. It’s interesting to me that other people in other parts of the world attempt to establish their own communities, honoring their own ways, and they all get pulled apart by politics, smash and grab tactics, and the love of the almighty… Read more »
There might be more to see here as well. I’m reminded of James Watson’s remarks that Africa (in particular) would not be likely to develop beyond a certain point. The bugmen who staff NGOs still refer to poorer nations as “developing” countries but if Watson is right this may be like talking about a 17 year old with genetic dwarfism as “growing”. Even India and China themselves are still quite wretched places to live outside of wealthy urban neighborhoods. The conclusion we may have to draw from this is that much of the third world (or whatever the poz term… Read more »
I’ll buy you a drink. Right on, bro.
It’s ok 2b white.
Tit for tat works better than “community” when you are playing against ruthless people – strangers, foreign cultures who may not be charitable and kind. Otherwise cheaters Will prosper and nice guys finish last.
I did not want to comment based on Christian values, but you kind of come close. What separates European grandeur from China and Israel? The answer is obvious and the only thing I could come up with. There’s more to Christendom than religious practice, etc. We abandoned it, and by the way, a certain religious leader warned us about The Pill. Now we’re whining about being outnumbered. Flack coming in 3…2….1…
See? This is why in still a comparative “normie”. My Celtic and Germanic ancestors were terrifying. If they were immigrating to our communities we would have built a wall and staffed it with machine gun nests: human sacrifice, predatory, interminable civil wars, ritual bestiality no less in some cases. They had some cool stories and built some slick boats but that’s about it. God raised us up out of that. And if you read the Venerable Bede it took so long, so very long. If God and Christ are real and true, that’s step one for anything else.
Quite so. Though it buggers modern day Protestants to no end.
The fact is the early Churchmen revered Plato, Aristotle and the Roman authors like Virgil.
And we owe our system of justice, art and logic to the ancient Greeks and Romans as well. For none of that came from the Jews who had none of their own.
Remember City Slickers? “Find that One Thing in life,” said Curly. We did find it, but grew tired of it, or stopped learning about it altogether in our fatness.
Without the infusion of Greco-Roman and European paganism, Christianity would bear little resemblance to what you know as Christian today, or historically. Dante didn’t make Virgil his guide for no reason – he did it in tribute to the Classical tradition he knew to be one of legs of the stool his faith stood on.
https://www.amazon.com/Through-Eye-Needle-Christianity-350-550/dp/0691161771
https://www.amazon.com/Germanization-Early-Medieval-Christianity-Sociohistorical-ebook/dp/B00524YUC8
Good point. It was through the Church that Roman order was married to Nordic ingenuity.
So true, the central truth for our collective survival.
Dutch, too late. Some Leftist clown already did:
Warning—not for the faint of heart.
How on earth did a White baby get included in that painting? Shouldn’t it have been an aborted White fetus in a waste basket, surrounded by fifteen little grinning ninos?
Alert the Council! Shut. It. Down!
Look closer. The turkey in the original painting has been replaced with a loaf of bread. The white baby is lying on the plate. It’s the only meat on the table. It’s being offered as a sacrifice.
Culture. Like biology, is inevitable. Put another way, if you aren’t diligent, you’ll have one. Now is the time to take stock, personally, of your own culture. What you swim in, who you influence, how you are influencing them. If you determine that your environment is not conducive to your influence, but antagonistic, then make a way to get out! Unity, in one’s and two’s, will establish the foundation we need to weather whatever is coming next. It’s in our DNA. The only question is how painful with that genetic expression have to be for my children. Rebuilding their culture… Read more »
High IQ matters, but it isn’t sufficient for high civilization. I can’t think of a low-IQ high culture from history, but Z’s given a few good examples of high-IQ civs that still can’t reach critical mass.
The steepness of the bell-curve matters. I believe China has a lot of above average IQs, but not many geniuses. So they are smart enough, and hard woking enough, to steal and out-engineer us, but not smart enough to create anything. Israel has plenty of geniuses and Zman doesn’t give it enough credit. They took a shithole piece of desert surrounded by 7th century, low IQ, murdering tribes, and turned it into a nuclear power with a functioning democracy. With or without our help, that is success. So much success that they can fight their own damn wars.
Without the massive resources and know-how appropriated or outright stolen from Europeans by the diaspora, Israel had it survived at all would be a pale shadow of what it is. Let’s not give them too much credit.
IQ is important in comparing different races, but there are other factors that can explain behavior and achievements. Empathy, time preference, impulsiveness, creativity, high trust vs. low trust, clannishness (Z mentioned this), conformity, flatness of IQ bell curve vs.steepness (more idiots along with more geniuses vs. more closer to average). You’d think serious people would look into these things before embarking on this grand multicultural experiment.
You’d think serious people would look into these things before embarking on this grand multicultural experiment.
Oh they did Brother, they want us dead and gone which is why they are importing them as fast as they can…Oh if only Stalin knew…
Yet in Malaysia and other places in Asia, a commercially-minded Chinese minority is happy to lord over and extract from the lowly majority. Singapore too to some extent, although there the Chinese are 75%.
I think the big difference is that non-whites just don’t have the same bone-deep love of freedom and liberty that whites do. Yes, I know that “freedom” and “liberty” are very hard to define, and that the definition changes. But I also know that other people don’t fundamentally value them the way we do. The Zman has mentioned the future as an open-air prison. Well, the thought-policing of the J-left, combined with the spy-tech of the Chinese authoritarians (see this, for example https://twitter.com/kenradio/status/1202006599855792128) doesn’t bode well. The fatal flaw with Anglo-Saxon liberties is the willingness to expand its coverage to… Read more »
China is China because it’s people are Chinese. While their apotheosis is something many in the West study and admire in the form of Lao-Tze, Sun-Tze, and Confucius, the genetic stock and culture that created those minds was wiped out, and if it exists anywhere it’s in Formosa.
Mainland China consists of slave people: they resemble insects more than humans. Autonomy is not valued in China, and autonomy is absolutely one of the prerequisites for greatness of spirit, both at an individual level and societal.
Agreed. This is where Buddhism/Taoism leads. Autonomy isn’t valued when the prevailing religion requires becoming One with the Cosmos. Even for Asian agnostics, the Taoist worldview governs.
There’s also an Orientalist fatalism to those faiths – Islam calls it inshallah – Allah wills it. Go with the Great Flow, don’t make waves, what’s going to happen will happen. Same guys who wage jihad, go figure. YMMV by sect, I guess. It might be a matter of losing meaning in translation, but judging from what I read in Western languages about Eastern philosophy, a lot of it seems like circular, self-referential bafffle-gab and Potemkin profundity. “All is Nothingness, Nothing is the Ultimate Being” type sh*t. Maybe I’m a Phillistine but it seems to me there’s a lot more… Read more »
Exile: Without getting into granular details, perhaps I can clarify matters for you. Any religious system should be broken down into it’s exoteric and esoteric components. The core esoterica of the East seemingly originated in India within the Vedic religion, an outgrowth of the Aryan migration. This is very similar in essence to the corpus hermetica, the Occidental core (or one of its manifestations) which arose out of Egypt and Greece (and older sources, if Ignatius Donnelly is correct). As far as what is actually believed in the far East, it is a strange syncretism of the outer veil of… Read more »
Jung definitely too understood these things and did a fantastic job of translating them into a western framework of understanding. The single best source I have found on these matters is Manly P Hall, whose library Jung borrowed from extensively. He does a wonderful job of explaining layers of symbolism, getting to the heart of the matter. The core message he puts out there is that our purpose here is to grow and unfold our potential, whatever it may be, by living according to the unwritten laws of the universe (think hermetic principles, cause and effect, polarity, correspondence). This to… Read more »
The most approachable sources I’ve seen for Eastern trads have been the German philos and Jung, all of whom were attracted to it by the sense of IE-Aryan roots. I know a great deal gets lost in translation. I’ve given Dharma Kirti’s pods a shot to get my head around it but it all comes across as very muddled. I suspect we need a modern Hegel or Heidegger to cast a more Western-intelligible light on this stuff. Cleary who I mention elsewhere in today’s comments does a pretty good job of explaining Being vs. being in that context, FWIW.
With regard to China’s future, I found this quite interesting.
https://aelkus.github.io/problem/2019/12/02/machine
Sorry about feeding the troll – obviously need more coffee…
Thank you for the insight.
Interesting. In libertarian circles it is apostasy to say “the NAP isn’t enough.” Just so, in some DR circles it’s apostasy to say “IQ isn’t enough.” Zman says here that China’s “biology and culture dictate the institutions, politics and economics.” Does this mean he’s saying that “culture and economics are downstream from biology and thus IQ isn’t enough”? Seems to. Or even that over long time-periods “biology tends to DICTATE culture”? If so—and some here will argue yes—then a winning combo is to take a high-IQ population biologically inclined to create dysfunctional or not-so-ideal cultures and give it a nice… Read more »
Jim Smith: “Does this mean he’s saying that “culture and economics are downstream from biology and thus IQ isn’t enough”?” (Warning to others – long comment to follow, sorry). That’s precisely what he’s saying – and what others of us have argued, as well. I went to an elite college and let me tell you – IQ alone isn’t sufficient. Zman’s characterization of Israel (“a land of advisers and critics”) is both funny and apt. Basic intellectual functioning is necessary, of course, but an ideal society (for Whites) requires other things – community and cohesion and trust, where agreements are… Read more »
It’s hard to make the case for immigration on the basis of advantage to the native population.
And what other advantage should matter?
“Or, do we (and they) allow a free intermingling which will result in their eventual ultimate genetic assimilation into our gene pool. ” Good question. It gets to the gist of what Z has referred to as the “Yoko Ono Problem”. In a very limited way it may be a beneficial. Variation and selection are a constant. Other groups who have evolved along a path similar to ours and created complex highly literate and creative civilizations have often done so through different adaptations. By consciously adding this mutation in a very limited way we can test its adaptability within our… Read more »
Physical presence is no longer a prerequisite for benefiting from an individuals abilities.
Very well written dear lady and I’m just going to say this sentence is what it’s all about…
Basic intellectual functioning is necessary, of course, but an ideal society (for Whites) requires other things – community and cohesion and trust, where agreements are honored and all value and care for community property.
The trust part is essential because it makes the cohesion and Community possible…
10% seems to be the tipping point for diversity. I’d suggest that only for a culture that has strong foundations, ala America pre-WWII, pre-Holocaustianity and pre-1965 mass immigration. I’d like to see full apartheid, Whites-only ethnic core areas, mixed suburbs where that 10% lives and spin the urban hellholes off as “free cities,” politically-separate Lesothos that we control/curb as necessary by maintaining a chokehold on their resources and infrastructure as well as their presence under our military umbrella.
I think Escape From New York might be a blue print for Lesothos!
This is why fears of a ruling class dominated by people of an Oriental outlook is probably misplaced. The displacement of whites from the ruling class is just another symptom of the decline. It is a phase that will lead to greater social unrest and instability as North America slowly becomes majority-minority. A ruling class distrusted by and alien to the majority of the population is not going to have a long future, no matter how smart and ruthless they are as people.
So, is that what we would call a grey pill?
IQis a useful measure of potential but it is dependent upon more fundamental instinctual drives and preferences. East Asian societies share a large spectrum of characteristics with one another. It is the same for the West. This is why the West looks and acts like the West and the East looks and acts like the East. Most of the people in the East and the West are not high IQ. A very small percentage of both populations have an IQ of over 115 (which should be the cutoff for anyone pursuing even the most unchallenging of college degrees). But what… Read more »
Yves, well stated. I might add that our IQ measure is a rank order measure, not interval, so we really can’t state that the difference between say, 100 and 105 is the same as the difference between 130 and 135. Of course, if there are group differences—even at the 5-6 point level—there will be tail differences at the extremes which (all things being equal) produce more folk of genius IQ potential. Dutton in the book, “The Genius Famine” explores the implications of a declining IQ and therefore a decline in numbers of extreme IQ individuals (geniuses).
Good point about the scale being rank order. Let’s also take note that normal distributions can vary. European Caucasoid males have a flatter distribution. As a percentage of our overall population we produce more very dumb and more very smart males.
I’m a tad suspicious of the average IQ numbers for Asians. There are a billion Chinese and similar number of Indians. If they were so smart, they might have figured out birth control a while back. We get to see the top 0.1% over here. I suspect their farmers and blue-collar types are fairly dumb. That was certainly my experience in South Asia. And as has been pointed out, they make up for their smarts with an utter lack of creativity and initiative.
Rule of thumb: Chinese with glasses, 100-plus IQ. Without glasses, under 100.
Birth control for your own clan is foolish. White success in colonizing half the world was dependent upon the ability to flood and replace the natives. Whites rocketed to 25% of the world population during the Industrial Revolution before embracing birth control and dropping to 7%. Soon they’ll be 2%. Birth control directly enabled feminism. Then it enabled mass immigration in an attempt to prop up the ponzi scheme pension system and financial institutions. Africa will conquer Europe due simply to its lack of birth control, despite its paltry average IQ. China’s future problems are also directly tied to its… Read more »
“” White success in colonizing half the world was dependent upon the ability to flood and replace the natives.”
Yeah the five thousand British running the Indian Raj of 400 million certainly depended on flooding them out.
Fuck off to some place where ignorance doesn’t matter,
Birth control also gave gheys the pathway to same sex marriage.
The Asian population (Asian as in Chinese, not Indians) are always broken down into Northern (China, Japan, Korean) vs Southern (Cambodian, Vietnamese’, etc.). Southern Asians are not consider to be a high IQ grouping. As to Indians, Reich in his last book has a chapter on them. Indian is a term that also encompasses too many sub populations under one heading. There are really 5 populations (Reich argues for many more), but I’ll follow the traditional Indian “caste” system. What we see in the USA are mainly the highest (Brahmin) caste. And indeed, they can hold their own among the… Read more »
My experience in China is that even the rank and file elite working R&D are not very bright. Also, Asians cheat like mad any and every way possible. This would include cheating on the exam, but more importantly, fudging the data. IQ scores should be considered thusly. After all, they had a 1000 year head start on us and didn’t even start to catch up until they, or someone sympathetic to the cause, had the bright idea of buying up the Senate in the 1990s.
Good call. The most marginalized of backwater groups in places like India, China, Africa, Blacks in the rural deep South and the worst parts of the inner city…are undersampled for logistical reasons. Some of it by design.
Russia/Soviet Union seems to be a good example of what happens when an alien ruling class outlasts its welcome. This would seem to account for much of the neocons’ hostility toward Russia. We may end up impoverished in the attempt to get rid of our ruling class, but it will be worth it.
Tucker nailed the problem last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UatnTSwEUoc
(((Paul Singer)))
I saw that and wondered if someone on his staff is not a reader. I’ve been talking about the bust out economy for a while. I used an example very similar to the Cabella’s one recently. Probably a coincidence, but you never know.
Epa; Tucker’s right, but it was being a public company that made Singer’s raid possible. Cabella’s need not have gone public, but doing so made the original business owners wealthy. So it wasn’t *just* Singer’s doing. One reason the tycoons of 100 year ago were charitable was elite pressure by an explicitly American elite, possibly operating out of enlightened self-interest. And they owned their own companies. Now, we have, literally, a rootless cosmopolitan elite with no attachment to anywhere in particular, and I’m not talking about the usual suspects here, rather the entire Cloud Folk. And nobody in particular owns… Read more »
Rumor has it Chick-Fil-A wants to go public so the family can cash out, and that is why all of the current stuff is going on there. Of course, the IPO will trade on “past” numbers, while the “forward” numbers are rather uncertain, given that the company has decided to insult its customer base.
All those companies guys like Singer destroy just to enjoy the best coke and hookers that money can buy. Republicans who take his money make it easy for the Left to attack them.
Does the left attack them? Singer is doing their work for them.
Personally I’m not interested in whether Chinese people are “better” or “worse” at x, y and z.
It goes deeper than this, on a spiritual level. I want to live with my own people.
We can certainly make observations and comparisons. But the primary driver isn’t “IQ” or “ability to make civilization” – the primary driver is that I want to be free to associate exclusively with my own people.
I used to make this point over at Sailer’s comment’s section. People over there are obsessed with IQ, probably because they’re all way over educated. CivNat always use IQ as an excuse to flood our country with foreigners, and are a shocked when I tell them that I would no more want a million high-IQ Chinese as a million Africans.
They aren’t my people. Simple as that. CivNats hate such simple logic because it forces them to think about whites as a people, which they know will get them into trouble.
I see it from a Biblical standpoint, essentially (yes, I know). God created many different types of people – visibly and temperamentally different from each other. Some groups are smarter, on average, than others. Some are stronger. Some individuals are smarter than other individuals. Some are better looking. We accept that this is the individual card God gave us. We have to accept that this is also the group card God gave us. We got the white card, and sub-Saharans got the black card. It is what it is. We are all equal in the eyes of God and in… Read more »
Yes. You make the same left wing argument that lower class whites are bad when you focus on IQ as a measure of superiority. When you say “Whites have a higher IQ than X” as a boast, you’re putting down the whites on the left side of the IQ curve. If an individual white has a lower IQ than the group you say whites have a higher IQ than, are you not writing him off as useless? (Wordy, but I hope you get my point). And then it’s even more sickening when they say “Well, Asians have a higher IQ… Read more »
They aren’t my people. Simple as that. CivNats hate such simple logic because it forces them to think about whites as a people, which they know will get them into trouble.
Which is why I’ve said they are cowards and have been kicked off of forums for stating that fact…They preach NAP/ZAP but live a life of pacifism…They are quislings and would sell you out or stab you in the back at the slightest chance…I have nothing but contempt for them…
CivNats are basically libertarians – and should be treated as such.
Agreed 100%
“My own people” are also not progressive whites, whom I will shun to the ends of the earth. The defining of “my people” has two constituent parts: 1) biological harmony, and 2) ideological harmony.
One interesting thing about China is that have essentially no presence in international popular culture. They don’t even have anime, like Japan. If they become powerful, they will be see as totally alien overlords with almost no legitimacy. Also, the Chinese will always look Chinese. They’re color-coded. That makes a major contrast to the Jews, who infiltrate the popular culture in many countries, and use it to essentially rewrite the myths of that country without people realizing it. And a lot of people don’t even know that they’re not white. I think that’s why it’s so crucial to help other… Read more »
The Chinese do seem over represented in classical music. Don’t know if that means anything, just an observation.
Performing, not composing, though. Big difference.
Excellent point. There have been numerous Japanese cultural aspects that have crossed over into Western society. Anime has had consistent popularity for at least a couple of decades now. Japan was the birthplace of car drifting – which is now very popular in the US car culture. All things Samurai show up again and again within US culture. I can’t think of anything comparable that has crossed over from Chinese culture. Companies like Honda, Sony, and Toyota enjoy much greater respect as manufacturers of quality products – than any Chinese company I can think of. WW2 propaganda notwithstanding, Japan as… Read more »
I can’t think of anything comparable that has crossed over from Chinese culture.
The systematic destruction of national heritage culture by hordes of fanatic teenagers, brainwashed and whipped into an iconoclast frenzy by communist educators supported by government.
China can be starved.
My impression of Israel, admittedly based on reading about it but never traveling there, is that it is a weird @#$%^ing place, with: A “vibrant” homosexual subculture, Another subculture of the folks in the funny clothes and hats and the funny facial hair, all with 7-12 kids, and A cabal of vicious expansionists that run the place and are hell-bent on their pipe dream of a “Greater Israel.” In practice, it seems to function mainly as a bolt hole for Jews in the diaspora who run afoul of the laws and customs of their host nations. That the US subsidizes… Read more »
I’ve been there. My quick impression was that it was very, very clear that I was an Outsider and Not One Of Them. Not especially friendly/polite/cordial.
In my few professional dealings with Israelis, every. last. thing. is a negotiation. Z’s comment, “Israel is a land of advisers and critics, perpetually haggling with one another…” rang big bells with me.
I see this trait of adversarial haggling in certain publishers as they deal with their client universities, while other publishers are more gently gentile.
Israel is not the homeland of the Jews. Even the Jews do not believe this. If they thought it was the homeland of the Jews, then all the Jews would go and live there, and be forever free of the turrrble, trrrrble scourge of anti-semitism — a scourge which of course does not even exist. But they do not all go and live there, and they never will, and both we and they know it. If all the Jews lived among fellow Jews, who would they scam and enslave and exploit? Israel is simply the gangster headquarters of an international… Read more »
Another thing to consider is that Chinese students are going back to China as much as they’re staying here, and i think more will return to their homelands as China gets richer. 15 years ago many Chinese thought the US and the West was preferable to, say Zhejiang province, but not so much anymore.
Chinese students: Apart from the theft of IP (including process knowledge) issue, there is the matter of which ones are working for the Party. Between my engineering and medical training, I’ve encountered a fair number of mainland Chinese. On cordial terms with most, but have made actual friends with only one, and that guy generally avoided other Chinese as well. I asked him why one day. His reply was “About one in 10 of the students here is reporting back to the government. It’s not like they’re government agents or actual spies, but they do it either because they like… Read more »
Yes…”lao maozi” (“old hairy”) for Russians and “da bizi” for all other Westerners. Most Chinese I know are perfectly polite and civilized, but they do keep to themselves mostly, and it’s hard to enter their friend-group. I just think Chinese are just comfortable around Chinese, no matter where they live. The coolest Chinese I have met are very critical of their government, and often other compatriots. (Sound familiar?) The level of national pride is high at the moment, so I am not surprised that Chinese spies or informants are all over. Then again, 15 years ago, there were many more… Read more »
Ten years ago there were ~128K Chinese studying in the US. https://nyti.ms/382IvHv Last year there were ~363K student visas issued to the Chinese. The Chinese refuse to repatriate their citizens under final deportation orders from the US for criminal convictions. Yet we give them aid and visas on demand. Go figure.
According to this article from last year https://bit.ly/2P8Ctws 79% of Chinese students studying abroad return home. Up from 5% in ’87 and 30% in ’07. I don’t know what effect the situation in HK will have on those numbers.
Most Chinese I know don’t support HK protesters. They are normally super-nationalistic, more than your average WN. The nationalism is encouraging overseas Chinese to return home, especially from the US, where they perceive a declining standard of living and high crime rate. They’re not wrong!
Once a native white ruling class disappears, the new ruling class will find out there’s nothing left to rule but ruins. South Africa seems to be a good example of that… It’s not all hopelessly lost, though. White people with the will to rule easily maintained their societies even as a minority- look at the antebellum South or the British Raj. Without getting into that nutjob German philosopher, we had, collectively, a will to power back then. That’s what keeps our opponents awake at night. That we’re on the cusp of rediscovering that power. Look at the long arc of… Read more »
“King Pickle Rick the First”
It has a certain ring to it. When you assemble the team, count me in.
Lord Protector, if you please!
He just needs to start quoting Kipling and Tennyson to really make his rule legit.
Rick;
Already happening in the UK Labor Party. The ‘new englishmen’ are turning on the ‘red diaper babies’. Might have been our esteemed proprietor who observed that Pelosi, Schiff, et al, are likely the last whites to have power positions in CA Democrat politics. Likewise Donks in urban Minnesota, now Mogadishu on the Mississippi.
One follow-up I had is — why are there no NEW classical composers of masterpieces?? Surely, the snooty well-heeled market is still there. Why are there no more Wagners, Mozarts, Beethovens or Bachs?? Now, contemporary modern classical is not something I keep abreast of, but I surely haven’t heard any. In fact, and real good musical pieces are things we hear in movies, Star Wars score comes to mind.
The Elites loathe the concept of beauty in the arts. See Roger Scruton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc
Not sure I’d place him on that elevated level but I’m listening to Adrian von Ziegler right now – good contemporary classical. Full disclosure – I’m also a metalhead who listens to outlaw country, so weigh my opinions accordingly.
“How a naturally authoritarian people will work with a naturally subversive people is a mystery.”
Not really. We know how it worked out in Soviet Union.
It is almost like a parasitical organism can’t survive without a healthy host…
Great analysis Z and a great question.
Why haven’t the high IQ Asians and Jews not ruled the world long before now?
Western Culture and European Man are different that’s why.
And as a Christian I would also say Christianity and not paganism for the European man.
At least the Christianity that recognized Jewish interests could be hostile to Christian interests.
But sometimes just different and not necessarily hostile.
Unlike the Joel Osteen type clowns we see representing Christianity today.
Pre Christian Rome and Greece had their strengths though but I just don’t think we can return to any form of polytheism.
Any form of theism would be superior to atheism. I’m not sure if it would be harder to sell the youth of Western society on muscular Christianity or paganism at this point. Either way, those we can “re-deify” are the future. Atheists with rare exceptions will be social ballast, divorced from past and future, diddling themselves into their dotage within an eternal present.
Christianity puts the trust into a high-trust society, which is one of the key ingredients to success.
Have had a friend and colleague for years who is mainland Chinese, having emigrated here after completing her BS at Peking University —back when you had to score in the top .01 to qualify—then came here and completed an MBA and CFA. Once in the US for several years she was acutely aware of this “gap” in her mode of thinking. Helped guide her through what was effectively a western liberal education in history, philosophy and literature. She’d knock through 20 hours of Carlin podcasts on the Roman republic in a weekend, then we’d discuss it over the next week.… Read more »
So a question for you, Saml. Of the various Chinese you’ve known, what proportion do you think would even want to (much less work diligently at, like your friend), know more about the West and fit in better? I met a Chinese woman (PhD) who holds a national research grant (i.e. she is paid entirely by the government) in Sweden, at an elite institution. She’s been there for nearly a decade and apparently speaks and reads less Swedish than I do (which at its peak was about 20h of “Learn Swedish” tapes, i.e. very little.) I asked her, out of… Read more »
Mike_C – That emphasis on simple courtesy – offering another culture and people the respect of adhering to their language and habits when even only visiting there – is vitally important. An uncomfortable memory is when I neglected to ensure I had enough local currency on my drive back from Germany to catch the car train in what was then far north Yugoslavia. When I stopped for some food I not only had to pay in dollars, but I didn’t speak any German. Everyone was exceedingly kind and accommodating, but I felt like a worm.
It takes more than eggs to make a good omelette. The vast disparity between White and Asian creative achievements in culture and the arts, and yes, even technology, stems from a synergy of factors that IQ only partially accounts for. Our radical advantages in both quality and quantity of creativity, self-awareness, transcendent aspirations and “horizontal” social organization are all key ingredients the Asian buffet lacks. Colin Cleary’s books from Counter-Currents (Reading the Runes, Summoning the Gods*) have some good insights on the unique nature of European consciousness and spirituality as they relate to these “missing links.” As for muh Reds… Read more »
I have never entirely bought the “Han have high IQs” hype. Let me let y’all in on higher ed’s worst-kept secret: Asian kids cheat. A LOT. On everything. They cheat when there’s advantage to be gained, of course, but they cheat when there’s no possible advantage. They even cheat when it’s counterproductive — I mean, seriously counterproductive, as in “you spent 10x more time figuring out a way to cheat than you would’ve spent just playing it straight.” You’ve never lived until you’ve seen a sweaty Han begging to be allowed to use his graphing calculator in History class, because… Read more »
And when they get out into the tech workforce, it continues. Why debug the failure in the test suite when you could simply disable the failing test, or even just change “print FAIL” to “print PASS”?
Albino;
Yeah, ask Boeing how well having your 737Max control software done in Bangalore has worked out for them. IMHO the big reason while these aircraft are still grounded is because the FAA has to be worrying about what other shortcuts were made and Boeing dare not tell them for fear of liability lawyers.
I’ll just leave this here…
https://www.boeing.com/careers/organizations/women-make-us-better/
Because, to me, nothing says ‘unshakeable technical competence” than a middle-aged overweight black female who –definitely– got hired because of her +2 standard deviation IQ to the right, right? LOL!
Expect this problem to get far far worse as we start to ignore objective reality and see the disastrous and very real consequences of doing so. (see: Str0nk Latina Bridge Engineering)
Apex, you nailed it. Browns and Asians are surfing on the bones of great America. At some point, the inertial wave plays out. When that happens, we’ll have more to deal as a society than de-acceleration sickness of a crashed Boeing.
My guess is 3-4 engineers among the whites and Asians, and all the rest in HR and Diversity Relations.
A corollary to this is the sheer volume of corner cutting that gets done in Chinese society. Whether it’s melamine in infant formula or salt water in the concrete mix, the customer takes a backseat to the yuan. The first comment on today’s post mentions the vlogger Serpentza, a South African who lives in southern China. He’s done videos on the phenomenon of Chinese apartment buildings that are sold as paragons of modernity but which fall into disrepair within 5 years of the ribbon cutting. Cracked walls, broken fountains, heaving sidewalks, overgrowth in the common areas. It’s inevitable that the… Read more »
Jews face a different set of problems that hold their high-IQ’s back from high civilization. Z’s pegged the main culprit – cultural parasitism. Jews have both genetically and culturally over-specialized in fields that demand a high-density urbanized high culture to thrive (finance, trade, law, mass-media, performing arts, academia) but they lack the empathy, agreeableness and sheer numbers to form their own independent high-pop metro societies. Israel itself requires vast external support from a parasitic diaspora and cucked Western “allies.” Their exploitative, supremacist culture and genetically-high rates of neuroticism, agressive threat-response and perversion make it impossible to reach a healthy symbiosis… Read more »
“[C]hild star groping.”
Who is Louis B. Mayer?
Turtles all the way down – anyone researching the Golden Age of Hollywood is advised to wear rubber gloves.
Who was Leo Frank?
OR, simply watch the Godfather…..and the scene about the producer who avenged the loss of his child girlfriend and wouldn’t give Vito’s nephew the movie part….and got a severed horse’s head in his bed for his trouble.
Ron Unz’ October 15, 2018 7,300 word essay is an excellent prolegomenon on how Herr Frank’s fate gave birth to the ADL.
Thanks, will do.
Check out the “Myth of the 20th Century” pod on the Frank case/ADL as well. One of their better ones, polished and in-depth. Brutal truth there. The ADL has a sleazier origin story than rapey-molester Morris Dees’ SPLC.
Asians could never rule the world because they are gambling addicts. They’ll work 15 hour days, years on end, and gamble it all away. Gambling is a genetic addiction with them. Their slanted eyes, glazed over in ecstasy, chain smoking, staring perpetually at screens full of flashing anime figures and gold coins, entranced by the little dings and electronic sounds. They can conquer anything, but they will never conquer the Indian Casino and the card club.
Spent some time in SoCal’s numerous Injun casinos – can confirm. At least I prefer poker to pai gow. This is the Asian materialist dilemma. For all the airy-fairy pretensions of Eastern mysticism, I’ve seen precious few Asians who could turn down a quick buck. The Dalai Llama and two or three others, who were also Nepalese or similar stock, IIRC. I haven’t seen this as much among the Japanese vs. other Asians, though. Not sure why. It definitely makes for some real-life “diversity” in the monolithic image of Asians as super-hard-working grinders who all save like good little ants… Read more »
I once worked for a very smart Jew (president of my company) who was convinced that doubling your bet every time you lose in blackjack, until you finally win and recoup your losses, was a winning formula. I patiently explained that if you have a small disadvantage in each individual bet, there is no way of rearranging the pieces to create a winning formula. You eventually will lose 10-15 times in a row and bankrupt your savings. Never could convince him.
I’ll take a wild guess and say that the difference between a culture that is permeated with gamblers vs. one that isn’t – is whether or not it’s descended from a warrior culture.
Japan definitely has a historical warrior culture.
The US at least – as do a number of other Western nations – also have had prominent warrior cultures.
The Jews definitely don’t have one, although they’ve tried to cast themselves as having one with all the propaganda about how well the Israeli military has done.
The Japanese government knows very well the gambling issue with Asians, which is why casinos have been outlawed in Japan for decades, until recently by the way. A new one may be opening in Osaka, owned by MGM of Las Vegas. The Japanese are about to chase the dragon again, and find out why they banned them in the first place. It will be one of the few American products that will have been successfully exported to that country. Vice is now our greatest export, tobacco, gambling, porn, fast food, craft beer and other alcohol, Hollywood, etc. Vice is all… Read more »
Haha, in this respect I get where the Asians are coming from. I don’t get excited from drugs, or alcohol, but when I went to a casino the first time it took me 12 hours to come down from the high. Something about gambling is a huge rush.
Of course, instead of spending all my money there I just limit casino visits to maybe once a year.
It might be an IQ thing. Something about probability and chance just excites me.
If every hand you play is at a small disadvantage, there is no probability and no chance. Play more than 1000 hands and you will lose every time. I always say that if you go to a casino and win your first play, quit forever and never go back. You will spend the rest of your life ahead of the house.
Concerning Israel, i think it is early to conclude that it will not punch above its weight as the Jewish diaspora has tended to do. Although it does represent a test for the Jews. You’ve got your country; now run it heeb. I’m in a hard science so I’m in the epicenter of the multiculturalism in that i’ve worked closely with mostly non-whites. We definitely are skimming the cream of india and asia. I’ve often found myself wondering why the white nations dominated the advancements leading to the modern age. Very unsure, but i think a certain ballsy hardheadedness exist… Read more »
I am an educated Indian. I am not sensitive but in complete agreement (LOL) about Indians lack of innovation. We don’t have the “risky balls” gene….And we don’t really compete well….as you can tell by the number of Olympic medals India has won…..
It is about risk-taking in the West, IMO. We try things, and most of them fail, often taking their practitioners down with them, but we keep on trying things. In the East, to fail is shameful, so experimentation doesn’t happen.
Markets will dictate the outcome as they always do. The chinks and Jews are going to manifest themselves as predators and competitors in the market. As our esteemed blog host notes, the chinks will steal anything that isn’t nailed down. You can’t trust a jew farther than you can throw him. You can’t do business with people like that – you either have to contain them or eliminate them from the market place. The fact is they will likely eliminate themselves. Here in Canada the Chinese have had unfettered access to our markets and other than their paid lickspittles in… Read more »
JS. “I hate to say it but we have some culling and purging to do – especially among ourselves.”
How much of the coming reset will purge bad players organically? I spend little time thinking of the new day, but your post made me realize I’m counting on a considerable number of zombies eating each other.
“Vox Day is supposedly some intellectual savant”
Who declared him an intellectual savant? He doesn’t seem that smart to me.
This is actually the one silver lining in the mass of grey clouds hanging over the Occident. If we lose, they will not inherit our societies and all the things in it that make life so good. As we are so fond of saying… there is no magic dirt. They will (and are) bring (ing) their habits, customs, attitudes and ways of doing things with them. The Arabs and Africans will never inherit Europe, they will inherit a very cold Africa and Arabia. If the Africans were capable of maintaining our technology even with us making parts available, they would… Read more »
True, but their sheer numbers will make democracy a liability as they replace our rulers with vodoo witch doctors.
It’ll take a while. in 2017, 55% of college enrollees were white, 19% were Hispanic, 15% were black and 8% were Asian. That year 62% of white students graduated, 46% of Hispanics, 38% of blacks and 63% of Asians. If that holds, and it has for awhile, white graduation numbers will be substantially higher than the other categories combined.
Of course if they all continue to be taught crap and America-hate, then statistics are moot.
You could make a similar argument for India. All my friends ask how as a Hindu of Indian ethnicity, I remain so “conservative?” After I discern their definition of conservative (!lol) , My response always: I would much MUCH rather live as a minority in a Christian run USA than a majority in India. My parents made sure I learned and valued pretty much all American values/traditions/rituals and I wold not have it any other way. Our Christmas lights growing up were always among the best on the block! I always say that I can be a Hindu much more… Read more »
Zman: This is a FASCINATING topic. Here is my understanding as to the science on IQ and distribution and may explain the historical events of the past 1000 years. Avg. East Asian IQ is about 103. The fairy tale Avg. Jewish-super smart IQ figure is a joke, 115, was based on a ridiculously small and skewed sample size and completely outdated. The truth is avg. Jewish IQ is probably akin to East Asian IQ, 103. Avg. White IQ is 100, but is dependent on what type of white we’re talking about. Higher in north Italy and Germanic/Anglo/Nordic countries, maybe 102-103.… Read more »
This IQ stuff reminds me old joke about debate between nutrition scientist and shark in warm water. One with high IQ , high education and deep knowledge’s why everything you put in the mouth causes cancer. The other just knew how to EAT: ,
I read something a while ago, on Unz I think. The author suggested that high East Asian IQ was largely an illusion. In reality East Asians just developed their mental abilities slightly faster than Europeans. Because IQ is measured during childhood, and is calculated, as a relative measure of your position in your age cohort rather than an absolute measure of brain power, they score much higher than their actual intelligence deserves. If true this would explain the relative lack of innovation from the Far East. For some reason that I can’t explain, the thought of all those elite prep… Read more »
Hayek– The history of China provides many instances of government attempts to enforce so perfect an order that innovation became impossible. That country, technologically and scientifically, developed so far ahead of Europe that, to give only one illustration, it had ten oil wells operating on one stretch of the river Po already in the twelfth century. It owed its later stagnation, not its early progress, to the manipulatory power of its governments. Great advances towards civilization and towards sophisticated industrial technology took place during recurrent ‘times of trouble’ when government control was temporarily weakened. But these rebellions or aberrances were… Read more »
Its not the east asians you should be worried about, but the south asians.
Yes. Correct. China has a very low fertility rate. It is one of the most rapidly aging societies in the world. Mark my words, by 2040, Chinese immigrants will be relatively rare. Chinese people are increasingly not so opposed to staying in China – they try here in the West; if they can’t make a go of it they go home. They also find it uncomfortable here, unless they are in homogeneous Chinese communities. Ironically, Trump’s trade war is probably bad for Chinese immigration as it impoverishes China. South Asians, especially Indians, are corrupt and nepotistic in ways that white… Read more »
Canadian lefties love the Indian leader of the New Democratic Party. He is so colorful and quirky that just looking at him is worth many SJW points.
And yet it is Jews who are impeaching the US President today.
“Eventually, they fling open the gates to a conqueror in order to have a natural landing spot. Israel is a land of advisers and critics, perpetually haggling with one another until some outsider ends the bickering.” The answer is that Jews/EAs are low in agreeableness and high in neuroticism. I’ve lived in a Jewish neighbor (interestingly, there were lots of Chinese people there too), and they were some of the rudest and least situationally aware people I’ve ever met. Once, while I was walking through my neighboryahood, I said hello to a passing Oriental woman. She literally turned her nose… Read more »
Bingo. No situational awareness. The higher the IQ the more semi-autistic. Like the Jewish girl with drool around her mouth and has bread stuck to her teeth. Went to college with them. Brilliant by the way…and totally insane.
Isn’t China an empire that’s existed for so long now, it is it’s own country?
It’s like if Rome had succeeded in holding Europe and managed to maintain that unity for 2000 years without collapse, we’d refer to Europe as the country of Rome.
Hard to read these defeatist articles.
Have not read the comments section yet, but I would throw this little tidbit out there. My sister-in-law did some consulting work in Israel for a couple years. Here’s a country that supposedly has a great cumulative IQ but couldn’t bring there tech to fruition without outside help. She said that they were a very lazy, entitled bunch. Astute observation by the Z, corroborated anecdotally.
I once worked in Israel to integrate the financials for a very successful company we had acquired. They had general hours between 8-6, but you only had to be there for 8 hours, mandatory between 10-3. In practice though, everyone worked from 9-4, with an hour for lunch and an hour for prayer. Not really lazy, but not wanting to work many hours. They got by solely on brain power. We closed the office after a year, and moved all the jobs to the US.
If your read famous Jewish scholar Raphael Patai’s “The Arab Mind,” that’s exactly what he says about the Arabs.
Always Be Projecting.
That said, I can’t say he’s wrong about Arabs, either. Semites gonna Semite.