Knocking At The Door

One of the pitfalls of dissident politics is the temptation to succumb to despair, focusing only on the negative. Excessive cynicism is an escape, an indulgence, like libertarianism, where you get to pretend the sideline is the high ground. Cynicism is a cost free way of both participating in politics, but standing outside of it, as if you are above it all. It has been a feature of modern conservatism as a way of keeping the people from noticing that they are being scammed.

The truth is, politics at this level is not about elections or public policy. It is about effective social change, by changing the frame of reference. That’s a lot like steering a super tanker into port. A little nudge here. A little there. In the moment, you see little progress, but eventually, the tanker does move. That’s the point of dissident politics in the current age. It is moving things a little here and a little there in the effort to make our target audience aware of what’s happening to them.

An example of one of those tiny little bits of evidence that the ship is moving a little bit our way is this post from NRO, of all places. It is an interview with Oren Cass, who is the director of a new think tank in the Imperial Capital. The mission statement of American Compass says it is “to restore an economic consensus that emphasizes the importance of family, community, and industry to the nation’s liberty and prosperity.” Put another way, they claim to oppose what we call marketism.

Another Washington think tank is hardly an inspiration to our side, but Oren Cass has gotten a lot of attention from influential people. This twitter thread spelled out the problem of worshiping economic data as an end in itself. More important, he did so in the language technocrats can understand. That is an important step, as it introduces dissident topics to people lacking the language and mental constructs to understand much of what is discussed on this side of the great divide.

A good example of this is the response from another NRO pod person to that Oren Cass twitter thread. Like so many in that hive, he clearly does not understand the concept of trade-offs. He certainly is clueless when it comes to concepts like social capital or community capital. He’s stuck at the place where knowing that the big number is more than the small number gets a gold star. Still, Cass is able to speak to him in language he can grasp, which is important.

Now, this does not signal a revolution of thought inside the Imperial Capital, but it does suggest some people inside are looking over the divide to this side. More important, instead of just assuming the people on this side of the great divide are evil or stupid, they are wondering why so many people are heading this way. The first step to legitimacy is often when the people in charge simply start taking their critics seriously, rather than treating them as a pestilence to be eliminated.

To be clear, Oren Cass is not “one of us” and never will be. In fact, if the inner party decides to round us up and ship us off to camps, he will be right there with them, as he is them and not us. The ruling class, along with their attendants, define themselves in opposition to us. Who they are is explicitly not us. They are the occupiers, the colonial pod people, ruling over the rest of us. Oren Cass and his project are simply a flicker of doubt, a sign that all is not well inside the walls.

A sober minded person would wonder why it has taken so long for anyone inside the walls to notice the problems outside the walls. After all, paleo-conservatives were predicting these sorts of problems forty years ago. Pat Buchanan ran on these issues, as well as Ross Perot. Trump is in the White House, in large part, because of the economic realities just dawning on people inside the walls. Heck, Bernie Sanders exists because of the things Cass identified in that thread.

It is the big tanker ship. A thing normal people cannot grasp is just how different the world inside the walls is compared to regular America. In the Imperial Capital, it is always a booming economy. Every day is Fat Tuesday, because tomorrow is always fat Tuesday as well. It’s always good times in the Washington for people who make their living in politics. Imagine a college campus the size of a city, but instead of students roaming about it is adult who work in politics.

This is why all past political reform efforts have failed. When the road goes on forever and the party never ends, reform sounds like ingratitude. From the Tea Party to the Bernie Bros, to the people inside, these movement strike the revelers as irrational ingratitude by people who don’t know how good they have it. But, the dissident right is knocking at the door and some people are starting to listen. It is a tiny example of how things are moving our way, ever so slowly, like that tanker ship.


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112 thoughts on “Knocking At The Door

  1. Solid stuff here. The black pill is indeed both a crutch and a dodge and sometimes it does pay to take stock of how much things have started to move our way, however incrementally. As to the interview, though, the National Review guy is like a Moonie. Despite the universe of evidence that indicates people are not in fact doing well, he spouts clichés and shibboleths that have been debunked again and again by facts on the ground; he seems quite taken aback by the answers. This degree of cluelessness indicates the daunting task of turning the tanker around as… Read more »

    • Remember Patrick Deneen? He hit the same brick wall Cass is about to hit. https://www.amazon.com/Why-Liberalism-Failed-Politics-Culture/dp/0300223447. Hopefully, Cass will put a few cracks in that wall. Cass is a step in the right direction. The articles Zman has linked to are worth the time to read, just don’t translate terms like “community” into what one of us would call community. Cass take a very big step in the right direction with one critical ingredient missing: demographics. Read the comments on the twitter thread, they are encouraging. Cass : In 1985 the male head of household had to work 30 weeks to… Read more »

    • “Is there any chance whatsoever the tanker cannot hit the iceberg just ahead?” We have already hit the iceberg. We just haven’t sunk yet. The country into which I was born has already been murdered. The cocaine-addled globalists partying on the bridge at the top of the ship, who ignored (or celebrated) for decades the screams of suffering coming from the lower decks, are now noticing the sloshing 20 degree tilt in the level of the brandy in their snifters. They are now forming a committee to consider sending a damage control party to investigate. This disaster was entirely avoidable… Read more »

  2. Peak neoconservatism was after the failures of the Perot and Buchanan campaigns, then later the purge of Sam Francis as a syndicated columnist, along with Joe Sobran disappearing from many newspapers. Things like immigration and free trade were no longer allowed to be debated in the mainstream and meanwhile war raged on. VDare, Amren and Lawrence Auster and Steve Sailer were still doing their thing, but it was far in the background. Neoconservatism reigned supreme. Then came Trump. I’ll always be grateful to him for kicking the door open on the immigration topic and questioning our trade arrangements and speaking… Read more »

    • You are absolutely correct about Trump. Much of the Dissident Right criticism of him is little more than the Beautiful Loser mentality Z described. We, or at least our children and grandchildren, will look back in amazement at what he did in such a compressed period of time. It is easy to forget you are winning while the battle rages, but we are winning, perhaps too late to forestall the awful consequences but early enough not to be devoured. We do have to reassess what winning is.

      • I am aware of the bitter disappointment felt by many at Mr. Trump’s failure to reverse the course of public affairs but I feel that that was never remotely a possibility. You cannot simply change the direction of an oil tanker going full steam ahead. First, you need to bleed off the momentum. Like Brexit over here, Trump has not changed things because such change is not possible in such a short time frame. But what he has done is made it possible to change things. He has kicked open the doors. His are the giant shoulders that others will… Read more »

        • The UK voted for Brexit and got Netzero’d in revenge.

          NetZero- “Zero carbon emissions by 2050”, so they’re cutting down millions of grand English oaks to put up wind turbines.

          Our rulers hate us. They truly hate us.

          • Oh Alzaebo, you’re forgetting about “gender neutrality”. We’re going to get that too.

            “Our rulers hate us. They truly hate us.”

            That they do, sir, that they do. But, like I said, Brexit didn’t change things, it just made change possible. It was a revolution – the first of many.

          • Electricity is 20% of total energy consumption. Rule by cannibals is one thing, but rule by autistic tranny cannibals is a whole ‘nother level.

          • Don’t they just! Let’s not forget the Pakistani rape gangs, only a level of malice worthy of Old Nick himself can explain how that utter shitshow came about.

          • MikeP: here’s the Inversion propaganda.

            Me: **with Murder in his eyes**

            They’re flipping the story to:
            Deus Vult Nazi Killers

            https://mobile.twitter.com/BaronStrucker/status/1236032329539145729

            The youtube:
            https://t.co/Vtdvq7rG19?amp=1

            Anybody remember “The Siege” with Bruce Willis rounding up helpless all-American Muslims, came out right before 9-11?

            Go ahead. Call me a conspiracy theorist.
            As if I could give a flying f*ck anymore.
            Maybe some brass-licker will write me up in the Atlantic.

          • On “education”:

            https://mobile.twitter.com/Nature_and_Race/status/1235677159160758272

            These kids are 6 years old. Six.
            I repeat: **with MURDER in his eyes**

            Gonna be unpleasant here.
            Its not so much these little ones, but their continuing education.
            A little English beauty, 11 years old, Paki gang-raped multiple times in every possible way.

            The rapists got off scot-free, and laughed in her face IN COURT, to the approval of the judge.

            The time has come, the time is long, long past come.

          • The UK voted for Brexit and got Netzero’d in revenge.

            Just you wait until Uncle Boris reveals his new immigration policies. The Brits WILL be punished for their insolence.

          • “Just you wait until Uncle Boris reveals his new immigration policies.”

            Oh yes, that too. Brexit was just the first of many battles. A long war lies ahead.

          • Disagree: Our masters don’t “hate us” (I prefer the term “masters’ to “rulers” as it brings to mind an uglier reality). To them we’re inconsequential; barely minor irritants to the oligarchs who seek unrivaled power. We can be safely swept aside. Or ignored.

        • I only blame him for those things entirely within his remit to remedy: Immigration and War. Immigration was just an issue for him to run on. His businesses always employed illegals and didn’t implement E-verify (which, by the way, he’s defunded in every budget and no longer supports.) His position on the ME wars of choice is far more interesting. He correctly blamed the Saudis’ for 9/11 more than a decade before he entered politics. Then he overrides congress to give them sensitive military technology and wants them to continue training here. Explain that. I’m all ears.

          • I never trusted Trump, and always thought of him as a clown. He is a clown, and that’s the bottom line for me. However, I was pleasantly surprised that he – through Stephen Miller – even raised the whole “birthright citizenship” issue. Clown that he was, and is, no one had ever done that before except a few “fringe lunatics” like yours truly. On the other hand, I used to think (before I wised up) that Bush’s initiation of the FMA (it was never his idea to begin with, but that is beside the point for my purposes here) would… Read more »

        • I’d push back strongly on the notion that Trump has “kicked open doors.”

          What he has done is kick at doors, without actually breaking them, which just tells the enemy which doors need to be reinforced or replaced.

          His one great virtue is that he’s proven we can’t vote our way out of this. That’s the only reason I can’t say we’d have been better off if Hillary had won.

          • Globalists used the phrase “Trump is at the gates.” in order to frighten the sheeple. They let him anyway, because the Globalists devour sheeple. President Trump has not done any devouring despite the Globalists insisting he is worse than Hitler.

        • As an American observer, it looks like the people are making it happen over there. It’s great to see. That needs to happen here again. Trump ride or die, and I’ll always support him for what he did in ‘16, but man he’s been frustrating the last couple of years. His people (and I’m one of them) need to get off the bench and start making noise, get him on the path again.

      • I strongly agree with this. President Trump is one of the great heroes of Western Civilization. Yes, he is NOT saving our country, but that is because he is at least 30 years too late (not his fault). He is, by delegitimizing the social, political, and economic assumptions that underlie globalism, building the foundation for Western Civilization’s rebirth when this evil globalist empire finally dies. It doesn’t matter whether that is his explicitly conscious strategy. It matters that it is the outcome of whatever likely civnat boomer-cuck playbook from which he is operating. Whatever repairs to the empire he makes… Read more »

        • Somebody here observed that we hoped that Pres. rump would be another Gen. Pinochet, but he is probably another Gorbachev, trying to reform a disintegrating system. What comes next? I’ve heard the date of 2032 or 2033 as Year Zero when everything comes crashing down.

          • 2032 makes a lot of sense. That’s probably the year Texas flips. Demographic decline will become really obvious by that point, as the older baby boomers (born 46-52) will be dying off in large numbers.

            As for the “Muh Supreme Court” types, those that don’t “evolve” in office will probably be ‘removed’, consequence-free, by ANTIFA.

          • “I’ve heard the date of 2032 or 2033 as Year Zero when everything comes crashing down.” ’32 or ’33? Good! I’ll surely be dead by then. I’m sorry my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have to live through those terrible times – IF they can. I will be moldering in my vault at Ft. Sam Houston National Cemetery down the way from my folks and will be well out of the fray. Nothing is forever. Entropy rules. Sooner or later everything turns to shit and it was just my descendants’ bad luck to be born just as the world as… Read more »

          • SCOTUS need not evolve, albeit Conservative picks often do. Look to the Left to immediately begin to “pack” the court when Congress is secured. This requires (IIRC) no Constitutional Amendment.

          • ’>>>32 or ’33? Good! I’ll surely be dead by then. I’m sorry my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have to live through those terrible times – IF they can. <<<

            Boomers: say shit like this.

            Also Boomers: Why do younger people hate us?

          • Your point? The world’s about to go to hell in a handbasket and I’m damned glad I get to miss thefun. You have a problem with that, Junior?

          • I don’t want that for my children! Two of the three are vaguely aware of what is coming, and I keep forwarding readings their way—as much as that annoys them. But I saw a crack and that gives me hope that they will be knowing. I would rather die fighting the enemy before it comes to that, and I don’t know how courageous I would be when it comes down to real bullets. I can only pray for divine protection, and if is not to be, then it should be a glorious death. I must never stop trying to do… Read more »

          • I’m a late Boomer and I agree with you. We are not all Bill Ayers type Boomers, and don’t forget the forgotten Boomers who went to’Nam and never turned coat.

          • I’ve had a change of opinion on this point recently. Previously, I also thought the demographics bomb would go off around 2033/34 but no longer do. That’s largely because the Brazil suggestion seems more and more probable. There really is no forecast where whites don’t constitute a plurality this century, and watching this Democrat primary has been enlightening. Below the surface, blacks and Hispanics have separated and the former supports Biden, the latter Bernie. It won’t be reported for obvious reasons, but that split seems quite real. Yes, the vast majority from both groups will vote for whoever eventually wins… Read more »

        • One last observation … I classify the Trump movement as the last gasp of multiculturalism. Cognitive and financial 10%ers often make the mistake of extrapolating their sample-biased diversity experiences to the rest. The Dem left is not multicultural but anti-white in mission. Trump really is a 1970’s Democrat multicultural nice-guy boomer-cuck. He is trying very hard to build a multicultural society that is not anti-white, but inclusive to us. It may seem obvious to us that it will fail hard, but that is not so to many Americans. It has to be tried (and is being tried) honestly and earnestly… Read more »

          • In the ancient Near East there was an empire we call The Assyrian Empire which weaponized multiculturalim. When the Assyrians conquered a country, they would deport (IMS) roughly 80% of the population; replacing the deportees with multiple groups from throughout the empire. Each group would have its own individual racial, ethnic, cultural and linguistic identity. As now strangers in a strange land, usually far from their ancestral homeland, these groups would work very hard to retain their identity. This would make the sort of political unity necessary to a successful rebellion a virtual impossibility. Thus the Assyrians solved the problem… Read more »

          • Political correctness is a war on noticing. Liberals have said for I don’t know how long that “prejudice is ignorance.” That sometimes true, but, IMO, “familiarity breeds contempt” is equally true. As the US grows more and more diverse, more and more Whites will be forced into close proximity with the the diversities. Easy to think highly of the them when you they’re not around you. Democratic Georgia Senator Richard Russell said in the 50s, “The surest cure for liberalism is a strong dose of Negroes.” Pres. Trump is a typical baby boomer civic nationalist. We’re all Americans, we all… Read more »

          • “Political correctness is a war on noticing.”

            Upvoted just for this phrase.

            Yes, it is.

      • Our children and grandchildren will be rounded up and shot because of the demographic change your ZOG Emperor failed to prevent.

        I’ll give Trump this – he has a unique aptitude for making people think that failure is triumph.

        • He’s been getting away with a lot because FoxNews and the pro Trump blog sites like BB have been covering for him on issues like trade and immigration. He gets a total pass for signing bulls bringing in more foreign workers to replace Americans. However the corona virus is going to kick his fat ass and drop kick the the stock market into the gutter. So far our response to the virus has been no better than China’s in the early months. IOW a day late and a dollar short. Only 2000 people tested? That’s a joke and then add… Read more »

          • Not so worried about neonatal ICUs. No deaths reported in children 10 and under, worldwide.

            And by the way, that isn’t the way such viruses (family of Coronavirus) normally behave.

          • Doctor, is that correct? Yes, the Corona virus is often associated with common colds, but last I saw reported, the micro-biologists were classifying 7 Corona viruses. First four were of the common cold verity, while the 5, 6, 7 were responsible for MERS, SARS, COVID-19 respectively. Or am I interpreting your comment incorrectly?

      • Is there a more pathetic, talent-less, unprincipled, and loathsome creature in all of ConInc. than Char-lay? (We could do a poll.) He’s the human weather-vane: Grifting along in whichever direction the wind blows.

    • Here are some of the phrases the CPAC/normie-con crowd like to repeat, which are either now or very close to being ridiculed and considered cringe among a much wider group than ever before: 1. Lowest black unemployment! 2. Socialism sucks (without mentioning the mass immigration that will make socialism happen) 3. Attacks on Omar, Tlaib et al, again, same as above, with no mention of immigration. 4. Moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. 5. Israel, our greatest ally. 6. Hispanics are natural conservative. 7. Look at this black conservative, could be Diamond & Silk, Candace Owens, those funny twin guys,… Read more »

  3. I’ve tried to explain to people than when you live in the land of “Lotus Eaters”, things simply never go bad, so people inside never understand what the peasants are rebelling about. Some these people are creeps, but many just never experience what happens, on the “outside” it’s just harder to get their attention. Now, the noise, and occasional rocks and spears thrown over the walls, by the barbarians outside, is getting noticed finally.

    • People are starting to look over the fence at our thing, in part, because Trump has showed up and does not appear to be a flash in the pan. His followers will stick with him, that is clear. The other side is trying to figure out what is going on, and part of that is giving us a look see. I think it is more “scouting the enemy” than anything else. But Trump’s staying power has legitimized a lot of things, and one of them is us. We can leverage that.

  4. My favorite piece from March! Excellent tanker analogy, and I loved the reminder of optimism! Realism and rationalism have a gravitational tendency towards nihilism, (I.e. Wittgenstein, Laplace, Descartes, Nietzsche). Why are we especially prone to this devolution in spirit? Let us revisit the foil you paint. Let us compare and contrast “cosa nostra” versus the pods. The Pods: It’s a brisk day in Boston, and out from a pod apartment comes a Podman, the Back Bay clouds hanging over his oblivious Podbrain. He sports a charcoal pea coat, navy slacks, light brown dress shoes, product in the hair, sides of… Read more »

  5. Not being the economic theory type, I’m going to pass on this one. But last night I was reading Discus comments by Seen2013. His description says he owns some think tanks. Some of you Econ guys and gals might want to scan his comments. Not the typical rah rah type of commenter. And please let me know what you think.

    • Can you give a link? And don’t sell yourself short: we’re in an economic meltdown of money-printing and negative interest rates, largely because of “experts.” Also the Fed (which should be ended.)

      • https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/06/democrats-attempt-to-create-path-to-senate-majority/ Comment made by Seen2013 replying to comment on RINOS: Seen2013 Where’s Joe? 15 hours ago “Progressive Republicans. They agree with Progressive Democrats in the hierarchy not the power-structure itself. The Democrats and Republicans have effectively reconciled the Democratic-Republican Party from whence they came and broke up in the late 1800s over: -Central banking -Tariffs -Indentured that leads directly to slavery though owning labor of multiple generations that will never be paid.“ After reading this comment I tapped on the username, which said “owner of a few think tanks. If you comment on Disqus you might be able to search… Read more »

  6. Z… the meteor hit. The first wave of extinction has begun. It’s you who are clueless, it is mass panic in the hive. The Donkosauruses died first. At the top of the shitlib food chain, they could only greet the tectonic and environmental changes with faggots, screeching vaginas, and greasy, elderly Jewish Commies and vulture capitalists… Yesterday has come and gone for them. The Republasaurs are struggling to adapt with limited success. Trump has made some of the nudges… but the Titanic is still headed for that iceberg at full speed. The new smaller, faster organisms are warm blooded, smarter,… Read more »

  7. The interview at NRO is actually with someone named Wells King, who is either an economic illiterate or an extreme Left con man. Following up with looking into Oren Cass and this “American Compass”, it has the aroma (stench) of yet another extreme Left front masquerading as “Conservative”.

    • Aha!! Those who intend to preserve the American culture pre-LBJ are ‘economic illiterates’ and/or ‘extreme Left con-men’.

      That’s not a good way to win friends and influence people, pal. Perhaps you have something to lend to the debate aside from asinine assertions?

  8. Something related is that sometimes outsiders even complain when things start moving their way because insiders are co-opting their ideas and taking the credit. The thing is, I don’t care who gets the credit, just that the thing I want done gets done. What’s going on in Germany now is a good example. Otherwise crazy and traitorous pols are being sensible about stopping refugees flowing in from Turkey even if it means making little brown kids cry and even if it means using violence to stop them. They’re not doing this because they’ve had a change of heart, or even… Read more »

    • Agreed. Treating our ideas like precious intellectual property would be a huge error. Scatter them to the winds like seeds and let them take root where they may.

    • “I just want it done.” That has been my basic attitude to the ruling class: I didn’t care who ruled as long as they ruled well. However, the transformation of my country from Christian-heritage European-heritage republic into a multicultural empire in which my people has been completely dispossessed from every node of control (coinage, courts, media, education, etc) has made it crystal clear that it matters who rules. If you leave the cockroaches in power any changes they make will be tactical and optical and they will reverse them the second the public goes back to sleep thinking everything is… Read more »

  9. “He’s stuck at the place where knowing that the big number is more than the small number gets a gold star. ”

    Every day at the Z-blog is Fat Tuesday!

    Best of all, the audience gives as good as it gets. Wicked wit makes for the best parties!

    Screw ’em. Die laughing.

  10. Ah, Ross Perot. Remember, he was “all ears”. Folks laughed at that quip. But he was right—he heard “that sucking sound” of jobs leaving the US 20 years before any of us did. And for that, we should remember him fondly and apologize for voting for either Bush or Clinton.

    • My first Presidential election was 1992, having missed ’88 by a couple months. I pulled the lever for Clinton even though there was something about Perot that seemed to make a lot of sense. By 1996 I was too far to the left to consider even Clinton. Strange days, indeed.

      • Yes indeed, I pulled the lever for every Rep candidate since Nixon. That is the definition of insanity. After the let down, there was always the “next time”. Some people never catch wise.

  11. Actually, the Pod People are right about something very important: it is quite true that the People Outside the Walls have never had it so good. Mohammad has never had it so good. Vikram and Pradesh have never had it so good. Jose and N’Gongwe and Yolanda and Fatima and Ching Chao, they’ve all never had it so good. The replacement “people”, the New Americans, the Paperwork Americans, the looters, the invaders, your literal replacements, they’ve all never had it so good. They’ve been handed America on a platter — a country they did nothing to build, which they did… Read more »

    • Yeah buddy, the WASPs pioneers who built California, said the same thing about the Micks, Wops, Polacks and Vodka Rapists who came here and had everything handed to them and have no loyalty and gratitude and who will side with the Kaiser or the Pope, sound familiar? Oh so unless you can trace your lineage 100% to the people of the 13 colonies, according to your logic, this is not your country, you did nothing to build it up or fight for it, other than to strip mine it and take it for yourself. Places dominated by Wops and Micks… Read more »

      • You are a very poor infiltrator. Go troll Breitbart, there’s tons of dumb Boomers there and you’ll probably have a lot more fun.

      • So what do we have here?

        a) top honors for obnoxious twit and retard prose stylist,
        b) top honors for zero knowledge or understanding of American history,
        c) Jew with a guilty conscience, making imbecilic false analogies, trying desperately to deflect,
        d) Jew scared sh!tless that the dumb goyim have figured it out, and the Supercaust is in the works any minute now,
        e) all of the above?

        I’ve always liked the letter E, it makes such an intriguing sound.

      • Obviously you don’t look very deeply into immigration questions. Buchanan made it clear back in ’92: immigrants such as Polacks, Wops, Krauts, and Micks come from CHRISTIAN cultures (as did the original colonists).

        The culture makes all the difference. Mohammedans are not Christian; nor are Confucians, nor Hindi. That doesn’t mean that they are “bad people.” But it DOES mean that there will be a Kulturkampf.

        You want Kulturkampf? Good for you. Better be prepared for it. How’s your ammo supply?

        • Culture does NOT make all the difference; RACE does. Culture, like almost everything else, is downstream from race.

      • I’ve already abused Zman’s twitter tolerance, don’t make me include the vids and headline/article collections where they openly promote and celebrate their Muslim alliance against Europeans.

      • I accept what you say about the lack of white solidarity in the past. Before WW2, whites dominated the planet and had no motivation to bond as a collective. But that was then.

        Whites are having an identity forced on them by the rest of the world, because the non-whites don’t make any of the distinctions that you recount.

        The most powerful forces that exist today are non-white and Jewish tribalism and resentment against non-liberal whites and to these forces we must respond.

      • “Benjamin franklin hate German too!”

        not quite right, WASP actually welcome European people who assimilate Anglo Custom, but didn’t want Non-European came his land

        Again, your argument is not only inaccurate, busy to pointing out how much you hate white people
        continuous decline of social norm and culture, stagnated scientific achievements and economy prove your side have no plan after “destruction of White society”

        What’s you gonna do when everywhere is uncivilized world and no place to run

    • And one more thing, this country was sold out by white males such as LBJ, BJ Clinton, GHWB, GWB, Woodrow Wilson and yes even Saint Reagan. None of them are Jews, Chongs or Pajeets. Look in the mirror asshole.

      The DR’s race obsession will be your downfall, by focusing on the wrong enemy. To quote the Cmdr. Oliver Perry ,”We have met the enemy and he is us”.

      • “This enemy you cannot kill,” I murmured. He nodded and finished the quote for me. “You can only drive it back damaged into the depths and teach your children to watch the waves for its return.” ― Richard K. Morgan, Woken Furies While you are correct that we have been betrayed by our native elites, it is neither obsession nor “the wrong enemy” to note that a subset of Jews have played an instrumental catalytic role in the destruction of Western Civilization. Both can be, and are, true. Judeo-communists were instrumental in the transformation of the training grounds of our… Read more »

      • You are correct that our fellow whites betrayed their country and race. The fact remains Jews have played a very destructive role in the last 70 years to destroy westerm civilization, Christianity and European peoples. In almost every movement that is destructive to Western peoples and their culture is led by a Jew.

      • Actually, the DR and the extreme Left are equally obsessed with race and human inequalities. The difference is that the Left’s understanding is false and ungrounded in HBD understanding. Since you can not build a lasting public policy on a lie, the DR—or at least it’s ideas, must eventually prevail.

      • UpYours, I didn’t down vote you. I appreciate your contrariness and I am curious. You say people like me are “focusing on the wrong enemy.” Who is the real enemy?

    • they’ve rewarded their mercenaries and their pets with the rest

      They’re trusties in a prison: they get perks, but at the end of the day they’re dirt people like the rest of us and can be dropped back in the general prison population at any time, their privileges stripped from them.

    • In fairness, he opposed the Iraq War. Carlson was always inclined to paleo-conservatism. His real evolution is in embracing populism as an antidote to conservatism or what it has become.

      I think Cass is sincere, but I’ll never confuse him with one of us.

      • Hmm….maybe sincere? Guilt by association with Mittens Turncoat. “Oren Cass is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, where he focuses on energy, the environment, and antipoverty policy. He was domestic policy director of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign in 2011–12. In that role, Cass shaped campaign policy and communication on issues from health care to energy to trade.” The takeaway line…..”Cass was a management consultant for Bain & Company in its Boston and Delhi offices.”…and replace us with the Dot Indians. Well, maybe he’s noticing our side of the divide, but only to more accurately draw the bead. For our… Read more »

      • Carlson supported the initial Iraq invasion but changed his mind when he visited Iraq in December of 2003 and ended up being an enthusiastic opponent. I give him credit for that. In 2012, though, he was calling for the annihilation of Iran when he was at the Daily Caller. I give him credit again for changing on that. He appears sincere.

        • That was true of a lot of people. Emotions were running high and information was heavily curated. Now I laugh (bitterly) at Gen. Powell holding up the cartoons of the “high tech caves” in Tora
          Bora. I don’t know how he sleeps at night. I don’t know how any of them do. (Well, it’s never Bushes, Clintons, or Trumps sending their kids off to die, is it?)

  12. I am sometimes a critic of Trump but this week in that town hall Trump had the balls to say he did not like Obama and what he did especially to the military. Now granted this statement is not full on dissident and for certain I am not sure our military is not going to be used against us in time and it’s turning pozed too. But Trump did criticize a black. Which whites now in the west have been brainwashed into never doing in public. Trump has opened up the idea that white guys might just push back. And… Read more »

  13. Z Man said: “A sober minded person would wonder why it has taken so long for anyone inside the walls to notice the problems outside the walls. After all, paleo-conservatives were predicting these sorts of problems forty years ago. Pat Buchanan ran on these issues, as well as Ross Perot. ” Here’s something we all know but bares repeating. This is a short Youtube vid from a guy I’ve posted before called “The Academic Agent” . He’s a free market libertarian pinhead but has some good things to say to people on our side of the street. It’s about the… Read more »

    • And here’s a guy called “Blackpilled” with a vid entitled: “The Dangerous Tribalism of the Ruling Class.” This will tell you a lot about “why it has taken so long for anyone inside the walls to notice the problems outside the walls.”
      https://www.youtube.com/v/ojqAfETtzYM

  14. “It is the big tanker ship.” Yes it is, even though I just snotted off about Oren Cass. By the way, he’s probably a distant relative of me. Hmm…I still put in that order for an additional lamp post. Working in water treatment, in a conventional treatment plant with a big sediment basin, it can take hours or a couple days for a volume of water to move from the aerators through the sed basin into the clearwell. I was taught the conventional plant is the USS Carl Vinson. Turn a big ship incrementally and slowly. Make chemical changes sloooowly…stop… Read more »

    • I hope he cracked the glass public-opinion-wise. As a BoomerCon last hurrah, he’s fitting. Sleepy Joe would fit for BoomerLibs, FWIW.

      We have nowhere to go but up. Given Trump’s position on Our Thing, I don’t see how da Squad’s FBI is going to be a bigger threat than Zion Don’s FBI. What has SCOTUS done to save Whites in general, much less BadWhites? Evil times in DC are generally good times for Us.

      • >>>Evil times in DC are generally good times for Us. >>>

        YES! This! Thank you!!!

        We are a dissident movement. Mediocre times make mediocre results for us. Bad times are our friend.

    • RFF – our ancestors with those little “faith in the footsteps” plaques on their graves are turning over in them at the evil their Globalist descendants have perpetrated.

  15. Public opinion is a macrocosm of Haidt’s “rider & the elephant.” Our Woke mahouts can apply the goad or offer us treats according to the manual but as the joke says, what does an elephant do? Anything he wants. Plumbing the depths and current shifts of public opinion is hard. Ask Hillary. There are chtonic elements in the public psyche that polling doesn’t disclose (thus the Bradley Effect). We’ve recently been informed that almost all social studies conducted in the modren era are deeply flawed if not outright fabricated. Turns out that asking WEIRD kids about themselves yields bad data… Read more »

  16. “This twitter thread spelled out the problem of worshiping economic data as an end in itself.”

    Is this another Harzony thing, trying to front-run populist sentiment, or is the marketplace of ideas actually responding to supply and demand? This is clearly aimed at the Tucker audience either way.

    • Exile, It may or may not “strike a chord,” Folks have begun to “notice.” Why can’t they save? Why did we bail out a Hedge Fund? Oopsie.

  17. Caldwell’s book is significantly derived from Dissident thought. Policy proscriptions lifted from that work would be hard evidence of a nudged tanker. Neoconservatives have much less orthodoxy on economics than libertarians, so one may doubt the dissident origins of that tangent.

  18. There is a fine line between despair and realism. It is often said but bears repeating that there is no political solution to extricate ourselves from this mess. For every person we red pill, 100 mestizo mamas drop another future Democrat voter. It’s a numbers game and we already lost.

  19. Thank’s for the links. This guy takes an awful lot of words to say that they’ve been “cooking the books” for decades and people have started to notice. He must be an academic.

  20. OT: Was in W’Mart on our weekly shopping run. Scandal sheets are all screaming about how deadly this coronavirus is gonna be. National Enquirer headline predicts 100 MILLION INFECTED in the U.S. with 7 MILLION DEAD! Hello! That death toll is more than TWO FULL ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE greater than the annual flu. What the HELL are those guys are smoking?

    • From my notes, a rumor: “…the document US hospitals are using to prepare for a major coronavirus outbreak. It estimates 96 million US coronavirus cases and 480,000 deaths.” Quiet preparation in the industry, very quiet. They know how quickly facilities will be overwhelmed as room runs out and the doctors and nurses get sick. Other notes: *Two weeks ago Italy had 20 cases. Today it’s near 5,000. *about 10% of cases in Italy require ICU Not sustainable *expects 40% of the population of Tehran to catch the virus. *Children just as likely- Three have died, 225 have recovered (median time… Read more »

      • From a video I watched on a left-leaning website today. Italian figures: 280 cases with 10 fatalities or 3.5% mortality. Reuters’ China figures: 80,000 infected with 2,700 fatalities or 3.3% mortality. Both sets of numbers have mortality rates right around 3.5%. The Enquirer headline was more like 7%. Look! Nobody is saying that “Covid-19 is nothing.” It’s just that it’s nothing like the lethal juggernaut the media and deep state are playing it up to be. Where were the Media and Congress last fall when the administration TRIED to brief congress about the virus and fewer than two dozen congress… Read more »

  21. Imagine if that diamond princess ship was loaded with illegals. Prog congressman would be decrying the outrage of us letting them die on that ship. The media would publish photos of dead toddlers. Once the next Holocaust was averted by Pelosi and the Blue-haired twitterers and the illegals were on shore, the leftists would fall over themselves trying to hug the infected illegals to show how the real problem is the stigma, not the virus.

  22. We have advantages and disadvantages. They are really the same. Western society is pretty much White women conspiring actively with foreign men to enslave us White men, at best, exterminate us at worst. For the crime of being unsexy. Hell hath no fury like a woman not turned on by the men around here. Its the only unforgivable sin men can commit. Look at the Democratic race. Not a single straight White male lasted very long. We had gay-gay-gay-now cosplayers, angry school marms, and an aging old communist vs a senile old pol. Ambitious young White men can look at… Read more »

    • Whiskey, your misogyny is ever on my mind.
      Above is a tweet video as to why.
      (The “education” vid. That insufferable twat.)

      I was wrong. You were right.
      We could use another WWll- only this time, against our enemies.

    • You’re on to something here Whiskey and one need look no further than South Africa to see the eventual result. Whites are now living in poverty and fear while a sizable number of their White countrymen have traitorously sided with the SA Black majority for a pay check to keep the country from imminent failure. I doubt they can save the country, nor themselves with that strategy. When the lights go out, there will be no differentiation between good Whites and bad Whites. They have made a bargain to be the last eaten.

  23. And sometimes that tanker sinks before getting into port. Or the captain orders all the naysayers to walk the plank. Or the crew mutinies and throws the captain overboard, then changes course for a better port of call. Ancient wisdom, keep your options open and your powder dry.

  24. When your enemies are forced to use your language and address your concerns, even if it’s to blunt and corrupt them, you are gaining ground. Most of what we call civilization and culture moves almost unnoticed like the tide in the middle of the sea. Events and personalities are the flotsam and jetsam of history. The tide is moving our way. Candidate Trump rode the tide. Once elected he’s been a net negative. Cville was a PR disaster, the media, pop culture, the Justice Dept are at war with us…and yet we grow in numbers. Some surveys have 75% of… Read more »

  25. Not an original point by any means, but I think the big difference between the Buchanan/Francis/Sobran years and now is the internet. To put it simply, it was a lot easier to fence off and/or disappear people in those days. But now the internet can keep ideas spreading from tiny and even one-man (hi, Zman!) platforms. As well as resurrect earlier, memory-holed voices. Moreover, the internet allows us to draw strenght and ideas from the very far right, the verboten right, which even open nationalists might pretend not to be engaging with as a matter of optics–but which is a… Read more »

  26. Zman, have you been talking to Rachel Bovard over at American Greatness? A few hours ago I went back and relistened to your Marketism podcast. Afterward, I noticed her article (from today) on the same theme. Looks like the theme is getting traction.

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