The Arc Of White

One of the distinguishing features of politics in the American Empire is the phenomenon of white populism. This is something that emerged in the middle of the last century with the establishment of the American Empire after World War II. Every generation has experienced a wave of populist unrest, always in reaction to some reform movement initiated by the white elites. The elites act and the white working and middle classes react.

The first example of this was the white populist revolts in reaction to the Civil Rights Movement and the 1960’s Cultural Revolution. Whites in the South reacted to the destruction of segregation. This was followed by a revolt by northern whites over things like forced busing and the cultural upheaval. This set off the great political realignment where southern whites and northern ethnics migrated from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party in the 60’s and 70’s.

Another white populist revolt started with the de-industrialization of the country starting in the 70’s and accelerating into the 80’s. The rapid conversion of the economy from manufacturing to retail and services continued the political realignment that started in the 60’s. The so-called Reagan Democrats were mostly the people who had voted for Nixon, but this time they moved the GOP for good. This was also the start of the gap between the knowledge economy and the labor economy.

The current crisis is another wave of white populism. This time it is in reaction to the continued looting of the middle-class economy by the global elites, but also the betrayals of the Bush years and the Kulturkampf of the Obama years. Large numbers of whites in American have come to the conclusion that the political and economic elites are at war with them. The election of Trump in 2016 is one obvious result, but the hysterical and now violent reaction of the elites is another.

The thing about these waves of white populism is they follow the same pattern; despite the fact the triggering events are different and the times are different. There are some obvious parallels between what is happening now and what happened in the 1960’s and 1970’s, but modern America is nothing like the America of the 60’s. In fact, the people of that age would not recognize this age as America. Despite the enormous differences in culture and demographics, the pattern is the same.

One aspect of every white populist spasm has been that it gets funneled into a form of legitimate politics. The conservative movement of Bill Buckley, for example, tapped into white populism in order to get professional conservatives into office. Nixon’s so-called Southern Strategy was an explicit attempt to get disaffected white voters in the South to abandon their allegiance to the Democrat Party. Legitimate politics promised these voters a remedy to the assault on their culture.

The rise of Evangelical conservatism in the 70’s and 80’s was another effort to funnel white unrest into legitimate politics. Christians logically figured that if they organized politically, politicians would seek their vote. They would get the vote by addressing their concerns about things like abortion, family law and education. Of course, the Tea Party Movement and now the MAGA stuff are more efforts by whites to defend themselves through the legitimate political process.

Another thing all of these right-wing populist movements have in common is they failed to get anything for their efforts. Nixon did nothing to address the concerns of Southern whites over desegregation. He was happy to let them think he was on their side, but Nixon was more focused on gaining acceptance from official Washington. Reagan delivered for corporate interests and the military industrial complex, but never got around to doing anything for social conservatives.

Today we are seeing the same thing with Trump. His reelection depends entirely on whites coming out to vote for him for symbolic reasons. He will not deliver anything useful to white voters, but he will be a constant irritant to the elites. In fact, the only practical reason to vote for Trump in November is his reelection will send the elites into orbit and they could harm their own efforts. Otherwise, like Nixon and Reagan, Trump will deliver nothing for white populists.

The one new wrinkle to this process is that after the Cold War, many Republicans became hostile to white populists. The purging of the paleocons by the neocons in the 1990’s realigned the party away from populism. Most Republicans, for example, were openly hostile to the Tea Party movement. Trump’s biggest problem in Washington is his own party, which hates him as much as the Left hates him. So-called conservatives are fully onboard with multiculturalism now.

Of course, white populism has always had another outlet. That is the path of what can loosely be called white nationalism. In the 1960’s, people like George Lincoln Rockwell and William Pierce tried to tap into white populism to promote racial awareness among disaffected whites. Theirs was an anti-politics, in that it rejected the political system itself as illegitimate. Rather than try to mobilize people to elect better politicians, they wanted to organize people to create a new system.

In the case of Rockwell, it got nutty and then it got bloody. He tried selling Nazism to a country still proud of defeating the Nazis in WWII. The absurdity of his presentation got him plenty of attention, but that did more harm than good. He attracted a lot of weirdos and lunatics to his banner. He ended up taking two in the hat outside a laundromat, but even all these years later, the Left finds him to be a useful example to wave in front of bourgeois whites as a warning about white nationalism.

This is a pattern that has repeated in every spasm of white populism. The white nationalist lane is divided into one sober minded track and one eccentric and often dangerous track. William Pierce was a genuine intellect who understood the larger problems facing white people in America. He could never figure out how to break free of the eccentrics like Rockwell in order to attract a broader audience. The result was white nationalism became an insulated subculture.

This pattern repeated in the 1980’s. People like David Duke and Don Black came out of the Rockwell experience with the hope of breaking out of the white nationalism trap and addressing a general audience. Instead, Duke ended up being a less bizarre version of Rockwell and his movement was plagued by criminals and weirdos. After some national attention in the 1980’s, as well as some white nationalist violence, this phase of white nationalism faded into an insulated subculture.

In this current wave, the pattern has held. The alt-right started as a genuine populist revolt on-line among younger white males. The anonymity and irreverence of on-line culture gave them a way to express their unhappiness with modernity. The alt-right tapped into that, but like prior white nationalist spasms, this one was overrun by eccentrics and criminals. This time, the preppy airhead, Richard Spencer, was the clown prince used by the Left in their presentations.

As an aside, white nationalism in America has tracked the technological changes in the country over the last fifty years. The first iteration was banned from conventional media platforms, so it relied on things like newsletters and shortwave radio. The second iteration was the first to use the internet to build an on-line culture. Stormfront really was an innovation in political organizing. This last phase is confined to private internet channels, podcasts and live-streams.

Taken as a whole, the pattern is clear. These spasms of white populism in reaction to social experimentation by elites or changes in the economic order always end up going down two dead end paths. One is conventional politics, always through existing political channels, like the GOP. The other is white nationalism, which always ends up in a circus of attention seeking eccentrics, who are easily exploited by the Left. It is two roads that lead to the same dead end.

Interestingly, these two tracks always end up convinced that the other track is a dead end populated by losers. Today, many of the MAGA people invest as much time in rejecting the bad whites as they do supporting their cause. The remnants of the alt-right, in the name of white people, invest much of their time attacking white people, their history and their customs. Many of them sound anti-American to most people. Their rhetoric is decidedly leftist and hostile to American traditions.

The logical way out of this trap is something William Pierce recognized, but was never able to implement. That is, white populism needs to be channeled into a bourgeois politics that attracts high quality people who understand the problem is the system itself, rather than the office holders. In other words, it borrows the central insights of white nationalism, but provides it with a cultural and historical framework that appeals to the mass of middle-class white people.

Whether such a movement can get going is open to debate. The history of white populism is now a nightmare from which we cannot awake. Any effort to speak of white interests brings all of the usual suspects from past failed efforts into the mix. It’s as if all the parties enjoy playing the roles that have been created for them. The arc of white politics in America is looking like an immutable law of nature. It may require whites reaching minority status for the pattern to break.

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245 thoughts on “The Arc Of White

  1. In the case of Rockwell, it got nutty and then it got bloody. He tried selling Nazism to a country still proud of defeating the Nazis in WWII. The absurdity of his presentation got him plenty of attention, but that did more harm than good. Speaking to my 92 year old grandfather last night, I was reminded of Oswald Mosley, so I asked my grandfather about him. He said, “He had some good ideas, but it was the image that done for ‘him”. I guess much the same as Rockwell in that people who had just fought Nazism were now… Read more »

    • There were about 16 million men who wore the uniform in the war. They had wives, kids and parents. In other words, more than half the adult population in the 1960’s had some strong connection to defeating the Nazis. Imagine a white guy sporting Muslim attire trying to start a white Al-Quaida party in the Bush years.

      • My grandpa liked the German people. Thought the Russians were barbarians for how they treated the Germans, thought the French were perverts. I remember him as strongly anticommunist more than anything fwiw. Didn’t like the nazis, but that didn’t seem to make him a self-hating white guy.

        • Didn’t like the nazis, but that didn’t seem to make him a self-hating white guy. This is one of the most important points, it is the measure of extremism in the modern view: whites were Nazis, I am white therefore I am a Nazi and must hate myself. How beaten as an intellect must you be if this is an outlook you have? It is indeed the product of a mind never conditioned to think. Then again, it may also be a great club to which the lonely leftist can instantly belong with a minimal entry fee. These are also… Read more »

          • That’s because your grandfather’s personality was well formed before all of the anti-white propaganda. Keep in mind that in the 50s, there was a superman radio show for kids where Superman was fighting the KKK. They were forming their identities and their basic personality and had this crap pumped in their heads.They also hi-jack our natural tendencies. That’s why “racists” are also usually misogynists or mean to children. Watching a man hit women or children is just instinctively enraging. They take that natural feeling of hate for such a man and make that man a “racist” It’s also one of… Read more »

          • “That’s because your grandfather’s personality was well formed before all of the anti-white propaganda.”

            He was raised Mennonite. Sometimes I wonder what’s the difference, but I guess the church was old school back then 🙂

        • Fifty years ago white people were allowed to have nuanced opinions on things. My grandparents thought the Japanese were savage barbarians. They did not like the Nazis of the Bolsheviks, but they separated them out from the Russians and Germans. American soldiers respected the German and Russian army. Not so much the Japs though.

          • That is another thing that is not really addressed in today’s politics. The Japs engaged in genocide in ways that made the Nazis look like humanitarians. Now it is almost entirely forgotten.
            I guess it’s okay when yellow people do it. As long as the guys in funny hats aren’t involved on the dirty end of the stick – it’s all good.

          • first of all nazis did not genocide the jews
            second of all japs did genocide the chinese
            don’t you think it’s suspicious the 2 most powerful ethnic groups on earth are portrayed to be victims?
            nanjing massacre is fiction, is their propaganda really that good?

          • I am not prepared to become a holocaust denier yet. Having said that, I am seeing evidence of a Joo-ish hoax afoot. The figure I have heard kicked around when the subject came up, was that 6 million jews met their end in the camps. It’s right on wiki. Look up how many jews were in Europe in 1939… and it’s approx. 6 million. So I guess You-Know-Who murdered them all and didn’t tell anyone about it. Obviously lots of jews did die – but not in the numbers they are claiming. Curiously, I also found out one of the… Read more »

          • Nor have the Koreans, and any others that got in their way during that time period.
            If I were them, with China on my doorstep – I’d be manufacturing and punching out manga battle robots as fast as I could make them. Japan is in a very vicarious position…

          • japs did genocide the chinese

            I must be imagining things, then, because there sure seem to be an awful lot of Chinese around.

          • Grandpa wasn’t nuanced about Russians, for sure. ‘Godless savages’ was how he put it. Pretty sure he witnessed atrocities but he would never talk about it. And this was a guy who saw a German concentration camp.

          • Look, I’m Jewish but I must know: what number is more believable? 2 million? 4 million?

            I accept that the count may of been exaggerated for political reasons (zionism/sympathy) but to say it was a complete hoax is a but much

            I only represent myself, but you won’t see any of us trying to debunk Stalins death count (approx 18 million gentiles) or the Holomodor or the Armenian genocide

            I’m being sincere, I will not play the cheap anti semite card

            What do you believe really happened?

          • What do you believe really happened? No clue. That’s the problem with politicized history, so many lies it’s hard to grasp what’s real anymore. https://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/ Simon Wiesenthal openly admitted lying about the supposed 5 million gentiles being killed alongside the jews in Hitler’s camps. In a sane society one would then ask what else he lied about. He justified himself sayng the lie helped further the cause. Questioning the official story just gets you labeled as a kook and antisemite. I no longer care one way or another, all I care about is what they use it for. The holocaust… Read more »

          • The Red Cross had boots on the ground, said it was 270K from typhus and starvation. No gas chambers.
            While 55 million goyin were slaughtered and that number is beyond dispute.

          • As I mentioned in a previous post, the 6 million number was being bandied about during WWI as the number of Jewish people to die of starvation. That number was later repeatedly referred to for other reasons, and just brought forward over the years. I suspect the real history is lost to the revisionists, but I think that Typhus and starvation surely took a grave toll.

          • The problem with the number is that it is used as proof positive that the most heinous crime in history was committed against Jews and that’s why we should never forget. The Holodomor or the Armenians or Rawanda are NOT the most heinous because of the numbers. So they aren’t as important to teach. I had never heard of the Armenian genocide or the Holodomor until 5 years ago. Rawanda happened in my lifetime, so there’s that. The focus on holocaust is also a means to distract from white genocide and ridicule it. If “never forget” were about preventing genocide… Read more »

      • After Rockwell got clipped, they did interviews with the locals, a lot of whom shrugged and said, “Well, he had a right to preach that stuff, even if I don’t agree with it.” This shows how incapable minorities are of living in a society with free speech. White people who’d fought literal Nazis a few years ago could at least tolerate an American Nazi in their midst, whereas black people who weren’t alive for slavery want to silence white people who weren’t alive for slavery for pointing to data on race and IQ. Rockwell’s operation was really weird, though. E.… Read more »

        • My dad fought in Europe during the war and ended up mainly hating Italians because of having to deal with the mafia although he didn’t realize they were the Italians he was pitted against. Like most American men he wasn’t all that political and would have avoided the war if possible. So for him nazis were mainly just normal guys who got stuck fighting for their side like he got stuck fighting for his side

      • Dating myself. But grew up in one of those families that all went into uniform to fight (mostly in Europe) Plus a great uncle that liberated sub camps of Dachau and his imported Polish wife who was one of the three (of nine) people in her family to survive nearly five years of forced labor under the Nazis. It’s a visceral revulsion that is hard to articulate. But a childhood of hearing direct testimony (Crazy Heddi held nothing back) will leave an impression.

    • GLR was assassinated by one of his own guys. With a broomhandle Mauser by a lunatic wierdo who wanted to steer Marxist.

      Props to the Murdoch Murdoch crew for their humorous yet relatable takes on Pierce, Mosley, GLR and crew.

      • I’d never heard of Rockwell before reading Z’s piece. But I’m sensing a few parallels between Rockwell and Malcolm X.

      • yeah, the eternal Rohm-Strasser problem of Marxists trying to hijack your nationalism. Hitler dealt with it with the long knives, GLR could not do so. what we need is pretty much to keep the funny uniforms and paganism and tiki torches locked down deep in the closet, if not simply erasing them. and maybe even keep home the ARs and camo (save absolutely necessary). heck, i’d advise against parading around the Dixie flag even, though on the other hand it’s hard to come up with another one that can be just as famous. maybe remove the stars so it’s not… Read more »

  2. White nationalists need to infiltrate republican party & subvert it.
    i don’t know if they can pull it off though.
    If white nationalists make their own party, republicans & democrats will create a coalition against white party.

      • And that is naturally following the demographic growth curve of the non-European population. As the Vibrancy begins to test its powers and indulge in vengeance politics, whites will finally understand that they are walking targets. As Washington famously said of the Quakers, “They will do nothing until they feel it.”

      • I think a rethinking of politics from a demographic perspective is long overdue.Incomplete sentence: Such a rethinking of politics is long overdue for Whites. Are there any other groups thinking politics in terms of demographics? I mean other than blacks, Hispanics, American elites, Muslims, Jews, liberals, Democrats, Samoans, the media, Asians, Somalis, communists, Han Chinese, academics, females, etc. (did I miss anyone)?

      • Well I would say has third party politics helped our cause or harmed it…I would say it does more harm than good because it seems to always get who we despise most into office…

        • But the crap sandwich will be the only thing offered to us, so long as we accept and chow down every time.
          Also, to dispute your premises: not sure Perot spiking GHW Bush was a bad thing for us. I’d take the Hillbilly Horndog over any Bush. Did we really lose that much the last time we bucked our would-be masters’ yoke?

          • Very likely so. But detaching the Repubs from the financial class isn’t going to happen. What to do?

          • Grow the movement and organize in non-party form. And, the sooner the better, because the opportunity for us to strike is on the horizon.

          • What other than online circle jerking is a starter for the DR?

            Had the energy used to trash the alt-right been directed at holding it up and reinforcing it there might well be an actual right wing, there is not.

            Far worse a betrayal than Buckley. Who along with Reagan hit his mark- the USSR.
            The DR only undermines, built nothing.

          • I had nothing to do with trashing the alt-right. Indeed, I was notionally a part of it. But rather than nursing old grudges we would all do well to create a united front and concentrate on obtaining our objectives. And the first step is to organize. I can assure you that, along with a certain writing project, is where I intend to devote my energies.

          • Exactly … just look at what the Neocons have done to the Rep Party. Its a Jewish hot-house with the purpose of being controlled opposition.

      • I tried the CP already. In California, they self-destructed rather than present a meaningful alternative to the DemRep Uniparty. They do not want to win. They want to be accepted by the cool kids.

        The only spine I found among them was a politician named Don Grundmann… worth watching if you’re into local politics.

    • True statement and excellent article by Z-man. At the present time there is no acceptable way for whites to organize and identify along racial lines. There will have to be a really serious shake up (spectacular military defeat or financial crisis) in the present system to open the way for a white identitarian movement. If whites have to wait until they are a minority it may be too late–their fate will be that of the Boers in South Africa.

      • Spot on – totally agree. Something significant most likely needs to occur to create conditions where Whites as a group can begin looking out for their group interests w/o being painted as lifetime, card carrying klan members.

        As an aside, coming back to our libtard dominated burg from a weekend in the mountains, we fell into a big auto based Trump rally a few miles out of town. Dozens of vehicles adorned in all sorts of Trump paraphernalia, flags waving, horns honking – all ages. Really amazing and fun.

    • Hanging out with Repubs will lower your IQ by a minimum of 25% and you gain 40 pounds. The Republicans are the party of hypocrites and the Democrats are the party of phonies. A serious man knows the best we can hope for is say 25% of the whites lets just make sure it is the best part of those whites, look at what the Jews do with 2%.

    • As soon as you have a explicitly White party that is able to Reliably command 10% of the White vote, the GOP is crippled as a national outfit. I don’t know that it makes sense long term to put a lot of effort into national politics. I think the local organizing is probably more beneficial at this point. Before TRS went off the rails, I thought they were on the right track with their pool parties. Enoch and Sven present pretty well as working guys. But with the ascendency of Erik Striker at TRS they have taken on a more… Read more »

    • We do not need to even think about parties in the traditional sense. Instead, we need to think in terms of movements and organizations.

    • That’s impossible even 90s where situation are better

      Scientology successfully infiltrate fed when every body were white and lack of Jewish surveillance
      Your Operation Snow White would be infiltrating place where full of pimp, whore, collaborator, maximum Jewish surveillance

      Just listen to wizard, you can’t wield the ring therefore must cast into the fire

  3. I think you have hit the bullseye with your last sentence. Whites must once more endure slavery to understand the real consequences of Marxist multiculturalism. No amount of cajoling and Powerpoint discussions will turn normie. But loss of economic freedoms and a confrontation with copious amounts of vibrancy will definitely leave a mental scar that can be passed on to the next generation, much as dad’s horror stories about the Great Depression figured prominently in the Baby Boomer narrative. The leftist narrative must be given complete scope to collapse in on itself in precisely the way Bill DiBasio’s New York… Read more »

  4. The only reasonable way to be pro-white in the current political climate without getting the weirdos is to pick causes that are implicitly pro-white. Think law and order, clean suburbs, support to rural areas, localism, lowered immigration, destroying big tech, gun rights, etc. Mostly boring as hell stuff for the edgelords, but a boon to people who have an interest in their children’s future. And if minorities decide that sounds good to them too, like how hispanics seem to be responding to the law and order message in the polls, all the better. We’re a long ways from bringing back… Read more »

    • Think law and order, clean suburbs, support to rural areas, localism, lowered immigration, destroying big tech, gun rights, etc. That sounds a lot like what Trump is running on, whether he means it or not (and whether he can get it done or not if he does win). So? So we’re about to find out.

    • Will minorities come over? Seems all those “non-White”, “White” things you mention are being deconstructed as White racism/supremacy. For example, “law & order”. Seems preposterous I know. But short of random murder, I’m reading—and often seeing—lots of writing wrt how such laws and their enforcement are simply legalized oppression of minorities and should be abolished, or limited to Whites only. In an age of returning to tribalism, separation seems the only recourse.

      • In an age of returning to tribalism, separation seems the only recourse.
        Exactly so the next question is do you want to do it while you can still travel freely and times are mostly stable or when you’re under fire and there is roadblocks at every intersection…

        • And you know, I’m actually in the camp of such an idea. I really do think “White law” is not for everyone and it’s enforcement upon our vibrancy is at the heart of most all our troubles.

          • Which only points up our utter incompatibility. Our continuing to live together in the same polity is absurd.

      • True. Everything that makes civilization possible is being labelled a sign of whiteness and therefore racist. And, in a sense, the critics are correct: civilization is a white thang–PoC wouldn’t understand.

        • Absolutely. In a sense they are making the case for us wrt White culture. They can’t exceed it, they can’t match it, they can’t even maintain it. So they must remove it, less they continue to be embarrassed.

          • Bang on, Compsci. In the 60s the idea was to elevate blacks to the level of white civilization. Some 50 years later it is obvious that this project failed. So, in order to achieve “equity” between blacks and whites, civilization is now being dismantled and replaced by savagery. Only in that environment can blacks be equal.

          • If the civil rights movement is a failed social experiment, why then deconstruct western civilization to accommodate a few evolutionary dead ends? There must be other options being considered.

          • Only in that environment can blacks be equal
            I would say they aren’t even equal there especially if they didn’t have our inventions to help them..

    • We should also support explicitly white culture in the form of classical music, pre-postmodern literature and drama, white food and drink establishments, and, where they exist, museums and institutions that are not hostile to whites (if such still exist).

      • Yes, all that is truly incredible.

        Compare what “primitive” white men were creating in the 16,17,18th century and compare it with the modern globohomo culture. It’s shocking.

        Ours is the greatest culture that ever existed. Today they force globohomo slop down our throats and tell us we have no culture, and by extension, no right to a homeland.

        • The flip side to this approach, of course, is refusing to patronize anything that is non-white and hostile to whites. The obvious examples are sports, most major corporations, and institutions such as the Smithsonian. Realistically, it is impossible to avoid everything anti-white, but we should still do the best we can.

    • “We’re a long ways from bringing back covenant communities and other ideals, so people are going to have to be more clever in finding gray areas in the law or working in the shadows. Which means our rhetoric has to consist of dog-whistling on steroids.” Exactly. We too often black-pill ourselves. The truth is there is a turning point occurring right now. Yes, our side has lost every fight in the culture wars for several generations but there is no inevitability to this outcome. All that has to happen is that the Left be given enough rope to hang themselves.… Read more »

      • This is a good point about not getting too black-pilled. Look at it from the perspective of what BLM is actually accomplishing: nothing. It’s a bunch of talk that infuriates and insults us, but no one on that side of the divide can actually say what their objectives are, except to make black lives more vulnerable to crime by targeting the police.

        • Yes, and it occurred to me that another value closely associated with the Scientific Method would be Freedom of Inquiry which is of course allied to Freedom of Expression. So when for example we ask why so many blaques are shown in interracial relationships in commercial advertising, and inquire as to the involvement of the hand-rubbers in this clearly-coordinated campaign, we aren’t automatically shut down for merely asking.

  5. Patriotic pro-American feelings are still strong among the MAGA crowd. That needs to be tapped into. And the term “anti-white” needs to be used over and over. It’s about messaging and normalizing an effective weapon for our side.

    • The term “anti-white” is a great mind-worm.
      It takes advantage of the ideal of colorblindness to right-wing normies and short-circuits the “hate has no home here” rhetoric from the left.

        • Oof. “White-hater”, now that’s a gut punch.

          It’d be nice to see the other side go, “but, but, I’m not a…” for once.

      • The term “anti-white” is a great mind-worm.

        Agree with this wholeheartedly. In fact, it appears to be the only race based phrase I can mutter that causes even leftists of some stripes to pause and wonder. Whatever the current situation is – and it has been very bad for some people indeed – this phrase is something that now resonates and can be salvaged as a useful tool.

      • Yep. Anti white is perfect.

        Doesn’t mean I’m a white nationalist. Doesn’t even mean pro-white.

        But mr. Civnat, we don’t want *anti-white*, do we?

    • The Evangelical crowd are uncomfortable with this message. It’s going to take some shocking violence perpetrated against explicitly Christian targets before this crowd learns to stop turning the other cheek. And that’s IF they even know about it through their trusted news channels.

          • It is. Puerto Ricans, hipsters, and boomers in luxury condos. It’s really gone downhill the last 10-15 years.

        • What’s slated for Lancaster?

          My family has land and a graveyard there from six generations before the Revolution.

          Oh cripes. There are still places where you can see Amish shoeing horses and selling produce and baskets.

          What will they make of those mad mobs- and what will those mobs do with them?

          • Hopefully not riots, and if so hopefully contained to the city. They’d be stupid to do it for several reasons. The guy was arrested for stabbing 4 people last year and chased the cop with a big knife. So ‘he was a good boy’ and ‘hands up don’t shoot’ won’t work. Lancaster police don’t screw around. They were out in full riot gear from the go. I’ve seen them bust drug dealers with squads of riflemen and APCs. For all the goodwhites who’ve moved here over the last 30-40 years and the diversity in the city, it’s still a law… Read more »

      • I originally blew off the anti Christian contingent of our guys. I felt it was going a step too far and kind of a virtue signal… “ I am so pro white that I am a pagan”. That said after looking into it further, these guys have a point. Christian doctrine preaching that we are all “one in Christ” is obviously a universalist message. At some point a White Christian is going to have to decide what is more important to him. It maybe isn’t an issue right now, because both groups have all the same enemies at this time.… Read more »

    • I have been preaching for years that the Left’s anti-white racism should be the crux of our critique of the existing order. Now, very belatedly, I think some people are beginning to catch on.

  6. The alt-right tapped into that, but like prior white nationalist spasms, this one was overrun by eccentrics and criminals. This time, the preppy airhead, Richard Spencer, was the clown prince used by the Left in their presentations. The sad thing about Spencer is that he actually had some talent. I’ve never seen him lose a debate. If he’d stuck with that approach, he might have ended up doing his movement some good. These days, he conducts himself as if he’s worried there’s someone, somewhere in the world that doesn’t think he’s an asshole. He mostly seems to be interested in… Read more »

    • Its important to remember that Spencer absolutely terrified the Left at first. A good looking, articulate White advocate was the personification of their nightmares.

      • At first? Our enemies still think he’s the ring leader of all bad whites. I’d put money on him being the target of at least three different federal stings. A good chunk of this new round of money that the feds are getting to find the Nazis under the bed is probably aimed at him.

    • I think he got tired of waiting around and wanted to DO something. Ultimately, Spencer was a thought leader who liked to pontificate and not a big man caudillo type.

    • The sad thing about Spencer is that he actually had some talent. I’ve never seen him lose a debate.

      I’d rather be led by someone who never loses a fight.

    • Spencer is a certifiable psychopath–he got bored with what he was doing, so he crapped the bed and has now gone of the deep end.

  7. Whether such a movement can get going is open to debate. The history of white populism is now a nightmare from which we cannot awake. Any effort to speak of white interests brings all of the usual suspects from past failed efforts into the mix. It’s as if all the parties enjoy playing the roles that have been created for them. The arc of white politics in America is looking like an immutable law of nature. It may require whites reaching minority status for the pattern to break. The primary reason it will not require minority status is the Left… Read more »

  8. One thing that Trump delivers is that he delays the implementation of nationwide gun control. Due to demographics, large scale gun confiscation or at least the attempt to do so is coming eventually. It will happen when there is a Democrat president, Democrat majority Congress (provided there is a decent sized majority in the House), and a Supreme Court with at least five Democrat nominated and appointed justices.
    You want Trump and a GOP majority Senate in the likely event of appointing Ginsburg’s and Thomas’s replacements.

    • I don’t think large-scale confiscation will be necessary.

      They can do small-scale confiscation via Red Flag Laws, and then make it impossible for aging gun owners to pass their armories down to their kids. This achieves the same goal with far less effort.

      • It seems like red flag laws alone will only be useful for confiscating guns from a very small number of gun owners, relatively speaking.

        • And actual EEOC title VII lawsuits will be filed against a very small number of employers, and yet we find everyone falling over themselves to overcomply with Title VII. Pour encourage les autres and all.

    • Supreme Court need have nothing to do with gun control, albeit some cases may wind up there eventually. My assertion is based on just how bad the situation is—and remains—in States like IL, CA, NY, MA. The Supreme Court has not helped a whit here, why would they act upon another country-wide ban or even buyback if they’ve done nothing at the State level for these things?

      • Not every place is like California, New York, or Massachusetts. In many red states, gun restrictions have been loosened in recent years. Open carry and concealed carry are more popular than ever. In some places, politicians are almost required to tout their “pro-2nd Amendment” positions.
        Assuming all other members are the same, a Supreme Court with a Trump appointee in place of Ginsburg would overturn a national gun confiscation law. A Supreme Court with a Democrat President nominated, Democrat Senate confirmed replacement for Thomas would allow national gun confiscation to stand.

        • My point obviously is not clear. The Supreme Court has refused to hear these cases in the past—or more importantly upheld such. The States I cite show you how bad such could be, nationwide, should the Fed’s decide to enact national restrictions. A forced buyback is, I admit, an unknown, but that would be most likely for semi-auto’s, not all guns. But before that, a lot more infringements could be attempted ala State examples currently in effect. I agree there has been great movement in many States, but disagree that SCOTUS has kept the dogs at bay. Congress has kept… Read more »

      • I can only speak for MA, but getting a gun here depends a lot on your local Police Chief being pro 2A or not. Some places it’s really easy and some places you have to know somebody (oddly enough those places are also the ones where they don’t want to “ruin” some “teens” life for having an illegal weapon with effaced serial #s.)

    • Democrats realize full-scale gun confiscation would put them in personal and political peril, too, although they will do it around the edges with Red Flag laws and similar schemes. The primary reason to re-elect Trump is the Ruling Class either will engage in massive electoral fraud or not even recognize the result. Either way, it would so delegitimize the system it would be very, very helpful and might spur left-wing areas to secede. If, somehow, Trump were re-elected and allowed to take office, the only policy benefit would be he would not open the floodgates to refugees and unlimited immigration… Read more »

      • They will step it up to Canadian levels.

        Did you know that Ontario, alberta, British Columbia, manitoba, and Saskatchewan have immigration rates almost double California-the highest rate in the USA.

        It’s happening so fast that whites aren’t able to figure it out in time. The slow boil is over, the rapid deluge is their new strategy. Sask. and Manitoba are conservative provinces with near-replacement white fertility levels, yet still get the deluge of non white immigrants. It’s not about economics, it’s about genocide.

        • I found the “Russian-hacked” Wikileaks emails from Clinton more or less nothing burgers except for one. In it, she expressed a desire for a borderless North and South America economic zone, with free movement of people and free movement of goods. I think this was to be put on a fast track. It would have destroyed the United States and that was the intention. I am aware of what is happening in Canada and do expect the same here once the Left consolidates power. It will not be game, set, match but close to it. Out of interest, is this… Read more »

          • Quebec has a slightly lower immigration rate, about half of the other major provinces – the same level as California.

            Outside of Montreal Quebec is almost 100% French-canadian.

            In 2019 they voted in a government that has cut immigration from 50,000/yr to 40,000/yr. They will be replaced too, they are just still in the slow boil phase. Once their nationalist boomers die off (quebecois boomers are pretty based, not like anglo boomers), expect full destruction too.

          • IIRC, that happened due to a mass influx of Haitians (when Haitian aliens in the US mistakenly believed Trump was going to end their decade-long “temporary” status.)

          • Damn. So the past secession flirtations apparently gave the French Boomers more in-group preference, then, than those who followed.
            In much of the South and Western United States, Boomers tend to be more based than X’ers down, but in the nation as a whole it is not that way. Maybe a similar dynamic at play.

      • Democrats realize full-scale gun confiscation would put them in personal and political peril, too

        That won’t stop them. They’re destroying their cities just to virtue signal. BLM shit probably won the presidency for Trump last time. Yet, they want to try it again.

        • There is some reason behind the fullscale destruction of the cities and we don’t understand it. There appears to be a rational, perhaps from a psychotic standpoint, purpose to it.

          • Perhaps to drive out the more affluent liberal populations who can leave to turn other areas purple or blue while still leaving a reliable blue population in the cities. If one is thinking longer term.

          • Or maybe they really do just hate us that much and will burn their house down just to make the air in our neighborhood smell bad.

          • I think it’s that white liberals are still white. Non-whites or ((())) don’t see, or don’t care about, the distinction between good and bad whites.

            Good whites are delusional retards but the demographic may no longer be useful to tptb. They’ve been jettisoned to clear out the cities for whatever mass importation the elites have planned for Jan 2021.

          • You nailed it. It’s as simple as that. Anti-white racism. No need to overthink it. For these people, anything that harms whites, any whites, and makes blacks feel good, is a positive.

          • This was my thought.

            Urban goodwhites of means fleeing to purple areas to turn them blue and red areas to turn them purple.

            Yet another demographic pincer in the multi-pronged attempt to wipe out YT.

          • The Public Housing authority in MA sent out letters to people in the Projects in pricey neighborhoods like Southie, the South End, etc., asking them if they wouldn’t prefer to live in the ‘burbs where the schools were better. The developers really, really want that real estate. Commutes for normies even a short distance away can now take hours. Immigration far outpaced infrastructure. Some people cleaned up but most people suffered.

          • That’s the problem with hate, makes you do sub-optimal things. But given how counter-productive their behavior seems, it’s hard to imagine it’s not emotion based.

          • I’ve thought that, too, but for several reasons it doesn’t make total sense. Not the least of these is the black-on-White and communist White-on liberal White terror probably erases at least some brainwashing.

          • This is just color revolution stuff, city destruction is standard practice in all of them at least as long as whoever in charge of the revolution (usually CIA or some QANGO) gets power its all good since it allows profiteering during the rebuild.

          • That’s totally plausible. Unlike the gentry folk sent packing, though, the Section 8’ers are a drain as it is. People in the NYC pogroms, to give one example, tend to be higher earners.

    • I’ll disagree because while people defend the 2A, all the other Amendments it was supposed to protect are being stripped away.

      A Romanian lieutenant told me every family had guns under Communism.

      What they didn’t have was bullets.
      Each household was allowed six.
      His side job was black-market trade in bullets, since his father was the police chief.

      • I’ll disagree because while people defend the 2A, all the other Amendments it was supposed to protect are being stripped away.

        I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with. I have no faith in the Constitution to preserve any of our supposed rights. My point is that a US Supreme Court with a Trump appointed replacement for Ginsburg will not permit nationwide gun confiscation and a USSC with a Biden appointed replacement for Thomas will.

        • I subscribe to “The Great Courses” which presents lectures on various subjects such as history, science etc. I am finishing up a series of 12 lectures on the Federalist Papers. I suspect the lecturer, who is a professor of law at Indiana University leans to the left. While it is an excellent synopsis of the Federalist Papers, what strikes me is how all the assumptions behind the design of the Constitution are no longer applicable, and many were even dubious at the time they were written as propaganda pieces.

        • (Next morning: shoot. I gotta stop pulling these all-nighters.

          I missed your point, and agree.
          You were speaking of SCOTUS picks, not home arsenals.)

    • Confiscation is not needed when using your gun for legitimate self-defense subjects you to legal and civil sanctions in most parts of the country.

      • You’re on to something here. I bet I can make half the population give up their guns in just a couple of generations given the “right” set of “reasonable” laws.

        • Sure….by the time tptb realize the stack of bodies and how many body bags they need to clean up the mess after trying gun confiscation they will definitely change their tune on that idea. They can try drying up ammo supplies, but keep in mind there are literally thousands of patriots that have an enormous supply just waiting on a reason to use them.

    • Breyer is 82 as well. We have to get the traitor Roberts out of the swing role. Even if Trump blows one, and Roberts continues to cuck, you are still at 5-4 for a long time.

  9. It may require whites reaching minority status for the pattern to break. Certainly minority status in certain areas, which presumably would then be hot spots of anti-white violence. If, and that is a large ‘if’, those fleeing the areas have any status and begin to think racially, perhaps other whites in the hinterlands may take heed and act in their own interests – but no good waiting for that ship to appear on the horizon. At the moment, it seems that the answer will be in implicit white communities. Small polities where small groups of the like minded can affect… Read more »

    • We have nothing. No organization, not even a coherent program. The only thing we have going for us is that the enemy has a program that is based on so many false assumptions (racial equality, renewable energy, monetary system based on debt, world empire based on US military power) that it cannot possibly succeed. Wait it out until it fails, stay out of harms way when it does fail and pick up the pieces.

      • I believe we do have a coherent program. It just hasn’t been enunciated yet. And organization is in the pipeline, albeit tentatively.

  10. Hot takes:

    “One of the distinguishing features of politics in the American Empire is the phenomenon of white populism. This is something that emerged in the middle of the last century with the establishment of the American Empire after World War II”

    Who won, who lost?

    The discussion of tech’s role in spreading and suppressing ideas is interesting.

    Today bourgeois people are losing their ways of life, too, which bodes well for breaking through into polite society.

    • Today bourgeois people are losing their ways of life, too, which bodes well for breaking through into polite society. This point cannot be stressed enough. To repeat a constant refrain, we have to finds ways to make the lives of the Ruling Class miserable, too. Be creative. White strikes? Maybe. Certainly no longer providing the Imperial army with cannon fodder has to be near or at the top of the list. This is the key to a modus vivendi, and the only way one will be achieved relatively peacefully. When someone as insulated and secure as they can possibly be… Read more »

  11. In my youth I saw David Duke on some talk show in the early ’90s and I was pretty impressed (and that’s even though I didn’t agree with his politics at the time). For as smooth talking and clean cut as he was though, his ability to influence and his choice for followers was probably thin. Look at us today, all living in the shadow of imminent jogger-death and we still find ourselves going slap-happy on nominal allies trying to wake them up. If people like Buchanan and Duke couldn’t pull it off, I’m not sure that it was going… Read more »

    • The problem with Duke is he was a creature of the liberal media. When I was a young guy in the 1980’s, the Left started saying that the Klan and neo-Nazis had traded in their robes and swastikas for khakis and blue blazers. This was because you whites were very conservative both politically and aesthetically. Look at a high school year book from 1978 and then one five years later. Night and day. Then here comes Duke in a blue blazer, khakis and penny loafers. Of course, there were plenty pictures around of him in the Klan robes and sporting… Read more »

    • I’ve heard that Duke (and this is from fellow WNs like Tom Metzger) used donations to fight for the white race to go on gambling junkets and to have cosmetic plastic surgery done. Duke claims he had to get the surgery after a brawl, but I’ve seen reconstruct jobs on fighters and that’s not what he had (though I think Duke probably did have some scuffles, and I remember Geraldo made his bones on getting his nose broken during some stupid segment on hate).

      • It used to be that way. Before the financialization of everything required that “working stiff” wages be kept low (and housing/education/health care prices kept high) and resulting in constant, mass immigration to perpetuate the system.

    • That made me mad. Those snotty twats at O magazine are spitting on poor women who’re doing the best they can with a slender reed.
      Good grief, what obnoxious c**ts.

    • There’s nothing demeaning about honest labor. I grew up a farm boy in the Midwest in the ’70s and ’80s and did more than my share of bailing hay, milking cows, shoveling sh*t, and doing myriad low-skill labor jobs to save money for college. I’ll never forget landing on campus of a large State U and being astounded at how fat and flabby the suburban boys from places like Naperville were, and how weak they were in the gym or on an athletic field. No muscle development whatsoever. The nail salon picture is ironic given that the Vietnamese dominate the… Read more »

      • In 1980 the pop of Naperville was ~42K. Now it’s ~148K. (The same thing happened everywhere there was a farm w/in commuting distance of a major urban hub.)

      • Gues, they aren’t talking about “honest hard labor.” They want us to wash their feet, pick up the trash they throw next to a trash can, whore out our women to them,and let them rape our children. Seeing that and thinking “Muh hard labor iz gud” buys into their antiwhite propaganda: stop it.

  12. Once we are a minority, they (the deracinated white elites, the BIPOC, and those who cannot be named) will grind us into the dust.

    • There seems to be something in degenerate cultures that makes the children weaker than the parents. I don’t think any of us fully escape but I see it particularly in white liberals – most of their children that I see are milquetoast and effeminate. Doesn’t help that liberals look down their noses at lifting weights and martial arts. IMO we’ll already be a minority by early 2030s, but I’m more optimistic about getting ground into the dust. Remember that it’s rich white liberals who do the grinding. As their genetic stock becomes more vicious and less competent we’ll see opportunities… Read more »

      • They also don’t have many kids. The goodwhites seem to have a fertility of around 1. Badwhite, 1.8, and though there are more “problems” with badwhites (cheating, divorce, drinking), the future belongs to those who show up and we are winning.

        The goodwhite areas in canada are aging rapidly – go to one of their zones and everyone is 40+. The USA had higher white fertility for longer so their goodwhite zones are younger, but not for long.

      • Corinthians 1:6, i believe, refers to the “adult males who rape boys” as “softly effeminate.” The Goodwhite males are universally understood to be softly effiminate. Makes ya wonder.

  13. Sightly off-topic but related to the Mooga-types:

    Notice how no one on the Left has attempted to de-motivate Trump supporters, despite the obvious opportunity to do so? Likewise, Trump has not exploited the divides on the Left to the extent that he did four years ago.

    • Meme, the entire past four years has been nothing if not a massive, well-funded, pervasive, ongoing effort to de-motivate Trump supporters. It has also been a total failure: NOTHING—and I mean NOTHING, no matter how extreme or well executed—has been able to dent Trump’s base of support. It’s really quite astonishing, especially in view of how successful such campaigns have been in the past. With Trump it appears to be some kind of new ball game.

      • I have to respectfully disagree.

        ”Orange Man Bad” was never going to work. “Orange Man refused to protect his own supporters” would.

        The Leftists are unable to see through their own cognitive dissonance enough to actually use the later.

        • The Leftists are unable to see through their own cognitive dissonance enough to actually use the later.

          The Left are so far gone they actually think Trump has done wonders for his base.

  14. After WWII, the cult of Margaret Sanger merged with operation paperclip nazis. The Caucasian tribe is strategic in neutralizing threats. We will always be here.

  15. I find it hard to ID the cause, when there seem to be a large contingent of white people trying to burn down the police station. My idea of community is not that. We have problems within our own ranks. Hard to get much traction when you are attacked from inside and outside. Much like a drinker it takes the bottom to arrest his fall. This much self-hatred needs to addressed before you can sell the better tomorrow idea, for me anyway.

  16. The trouble with appealing to bourgeois politics is that the bourgeoisie are inherently economics driven, and therefore rather selfish(and I am speaking as one from this class). We are the ones demanding more consumers and short brown men to mow our lawns. So maybe not outright minority status is necessary, but definitely being stripped of our ability to live a middle class lifestyle is most likely what it will take to wake up the rest of the White population. Who knows what kind of politics the high quality Whites will turn to then.

  17. I think a lot of people notice that the elites ostensible attempts to address evil are both motivated by a greater evil and result in greater evils. I read that Goodwhite book “The Help” (don’t read it) just to see what the fuss was about. Ostensibly it’s about a woman born in an unjust culture who notices the injustice of that world as an adult, which she overlooked as a child. But the result of her crusade is to market a book to a New York agent (named Elaine Stein) about a black woman who defecates into a chocolate pie… Read more »

    • Nope. None of those parties had good intentions. Do not project your own good nature and morality onto our enemies. They want you dead, your women enslaved, and your children raped. There is no accident there, no unintended bad consequences. Every last one of ’em. They mean every word when they scream that they will kill you.

  18. Trump is neither the problem nor the solution. And it is not accurate to say he has done nothing. Among other tangible changes (goodby never-ending-war mania and the globalism tsunami), he has pushed the day of reckoning off a ways into the future. Continued looting of the US economy would have brought us down within a few years, but now it may take a decade or more. Nothing changes until the environment changes. And then, it’s adapt or die. You best be prepared to either adapt or help structure the ensuing changes.

    • Wait until his second term. Don’t get me wrong, I prefer Trump over Biden. But Trump is totally slave to his jewish donors, as is Biden or anyone who rises to the top of either party.

      • So you’re saying that Jews-in-charge are anti-war and anti-globalism, and that’s why they’re manipulating Trump to act in that fashion. Then why haven’t the Jews-in-charge told Faceberg to back off on the anti-Trump propaganda?

  19. The best lesson anyone can take from prior attempts at white populism is to just be honest. Don’t pretend to be the Nazis, or the Klan, or anything else besides a white American. The best strategy is to keep repeating that it’s okay to be white, and that white lives matter. The idea is to dispel white guilt, and at the same time, invite attack and censorship. Not being able to say “it’s okay to be white” is a massive redpill to the normies.

    • I agree with this. Most people, me included, really get tired of the efforts to jam present reality into some imaginary version of the past. This is not Wiemar Germany. This is not the post-war South.

      • There’s a common thread among most people under, let’s say 45, and especially 35, regardless of where they are politically, and that’s disparaging American history. But this is to be expected. This is a country that once worked for most people. Even the boomers didn’t get the meat of the great ponzi. You have to be in a nursing home to be part of that America. If you’re a young person you ONLY know a failing system that’s been failing, literally, since before you were born. You don’t like the Founding Fathers because you can’t identify with the success of… Read more »

        • Much of what you say is true, of course, but you’ve overstated things considerably. Maybe it’s the part of the country you live in. Many (meaning “many”) young (20s & 30s) folks here in the Deep South are proud members of the DAR, the SAR, the UDC, the SCV, the MOS&B, the Jamestowne Society, etc. I personally know many of them. My daughter, for example. My sister. Etc.

          • That’s because they identify with being trampled down by an oppressive regime. It rings true to them. Today’s America is the same, only its on a demographic level and in all 50 states. The 20 somethings in my area join Antifa…sadly.

          • Still, as Z-man noted, we’ve de-industrialized the economy and produced one which more and more rewards a smallish cognitive elite with a good living.

            Our politician’s answer. We’ve sent several generations to university to pursue weak or outright faux degrees in which there is little chance for a future employment and a reasonable income to allow one a chance to partake in the “American Dream”.

            When I look at the rioters now performing nightly on our city streets, I’m not surprise at the numbers of Whites. We’ve sown the wind…

          • That’s exactly right. They have faux degrees, sometimes even six figures in debt, and no no future. All dressed up and nowhere to go. So why not throw firebombs? What they need to do is look in the mirror and say “Ive been had, my education is worthless, what a fool I was!.” They don’t have the stomach for that.

    • Yep. I’ve said this before. I don’t have a “Fuck Trudeau” sticker on my car. I don’t have Gadsden logos or Rebel flags anywhere. I don’t brag about my firearms. I work hard, am polite to everyone, save money. I’m in shape, I dress well, I speak well. An ideal white man. I stand out compared to the degenerate soys and hood POCs, in a good way. An ideal white man. So when I say something mildly redpilled to family, they listen and don’t think much of it. We have to remember just how cucked the average white is. We… Read more »

  20. High quality people is indeed the key. Preferably married men with a decent credit and legal record. Not the Richard Spencer’s or the internet trolls.
    How do we get there? I got no idea for certain but me thinks the more the loon squads on the left go after normal white people as Nazi’s and racists the farther along we will get.
    The left has become so nutty they are helping us with their own antics and they can’t seem to help themselves from going crazy.

    • Yes, a nice credit and legal record….to be utterly destroyed by the powers that be…. There’s a reason revolutionaries come from the fringe.

      • Giddy is right – it isn’t the credit and legal record in themselves. It’s that the kind of people that have that are cooperative, have staying power, and have good judgment. Revolutions undergo many stages before they exhaust themselves. We don’t want to be the ppl who kick it off but can’t finish it off, we want to be king of the hill at the very end.

        • People who think they can make a difference are naturally crazy in one way or another. They’re also a natural part of the human ecosystem, despite what certain people think here. That’s a fact. And those people generally aren’t on the up-and-up with their taxes, their credit or any other record for that matter. Can you imaging Sam Adams reading the IRS website today?

  21. Conservatives tend to be too gloomy. See Derbyshire’s- We are doomed. Across Z’s adult life, and mine, conservatives haven’t really experienced a significant policy win. So it is well earned cynicism. However, will the 200 million anglo-assimilated american whites be ushered meekly off the stage? I find it doubtful. Thus, something will break/change.

    • You would think their anti-white BLM/antifa campaign would go full throttle several years down the road, maybe when whites become a minority. It’s a dangerous game they’re playing by shoving their agenda in Whitey’s face when there are 200 million and still the majority.

    • Conservatives tend to be too gloomy It is a tough conundrum. You want to bring more people over to your movement, yet all you have is harsh realities about life (things that I believe conservatives tend to get far better than liberals). The other side offers Utopia. The other side offers a ‘fair minimum wage’. The other side believes in ‘equality’… and so on. It does not help that the left have a monopoly, really, on words that seem to prick up the ears of people – particularly the young. Perhaps further back consequences and actions were far more closely… Read more »

    • Derbyshire is comfortable with the doom because he’s an old man who knows he won’t see the final work product of this nonsense. He intends to put the bag over his head and close his eyes.

      • I think it’s just a temperament thing with Derb. It’s like George Will said before he went full cuck. Being a pessimist means you are right 90% of the time, and the other 10% you are delighted to be wrong.

  22. I read an article or saw on Tucker, I forget which, that Lindsey Graham is the person who talked Trump into giving Woodward an interview (or a series of interviews). What a snake. With friends like that… These people are all snakes. It is why Trump can’t anything done except what they want him to do. At least he has more or less kept us out of any wars.

      • For someone with supposed business acumen, Trump has a notoriously bad record of judging people. Almost seems by design. I can’t even spin a 5D chess explanation to give it a positive spin. Remember this when someone boasts about all the judiciary appointments Trump has made.

  23. No one in the country today really knows Richard Spencer the way people knew about David Duke in the 80’s and 90’s. Duke was the butt of every KKK joke there was back then. That’s because until 10-15 years ago the media was a homogenous locked down place. Their narrative could be pumped out to every corner of the country with ease. Only inside the ballpark people know about any given white nationalist figure these days. That’s part of the reason the media is tagging everyone as white nationalist these days while cancelling accounts. They’re trying to work that old,… Read more »

    • Good observation. They can’t smear Vince James, Henrick and Lana, Ramz, Nick Fuentes, they way they smeared Duke because they don’t have a total lock on information…..yet. But rest assured the jewing will intensify and the DOJ/FBI plans to shut down any and all of our voices. I do not think they will be successful because of our numbers and the fact that we have the moral high ground.
      It’s both sad and stunning that jews are hell bent against allowing whites to have a voice as human beings on planet earth.

      • That’s what Google and Wikipedia are for. Also, to make you unemployable.
        How long before the power company starts cutting electricity to wrong-thinkers? Water company? Cell service? We once thought bank accounts were completely off limits. With antifa showing up at people’s houses, how long before wrong-thinkers can’t even rent an apartment?
        There are no depths too low for them to sink.

        Funny thing is, this is how Stefan Molyneux used to see his libertarian utopia working.

  24. The problem for white populist movements is that we are out of time to do what needs to be done. What needs to be done should have been done by Rockwell or even Duke and his movement. The problem with the Pierce strategy and the reason he ultimately failed is that while white populists were trying to figure out how to capture the state, the left was capturing the institutions and in particular, education and pedowood. Once education was SJW converged, it was producing people who would be utterly repulsed by people like Pierce. While Rockwell was being trotted around… Read more »

    • This drifts back into the Cold War fight in some ways where we felt that we had to make American Democracy as universalist as communism in order to fight its appeal. If there was something unique about western civ in that it couldn’t be adopted by anyone who wanted it, then there was nothing to keep every brown-horde country from switching to the Reds and parking nukes and bases right across our border, so the thinking would go. The example of Japan’s redemption didn’t help. American whites imagined every place eventually turning into their own version of Japan, ignoring the… Read more »

      • The example of Japan’s redemption didn’t help.

        Throw Germany in there too.

        The US literally lucked into the two most ideal, high-trust, high-IQ cultures for complete remolding after a terrible war.

        Those efforts got the US so high on its own supply the idiots running the place extrapolated the deluded univeralist idea they could do the same to any culture on Earth.

  25. One big opportunity from the pandemic that dissidents need to support is the rise of homeschooling as an alternative to public schooling. By some accounts, the number of homeschooled children has doubled since the pandemic: https://news.gallup.com/poll/317852/parents-satisfaction-child-education-slips.aspx And it makes sense – if the public schools are going to force parents to babysit their kids while they watch online videos, then they may as well just put them in a home school network where they can get better support. The demographics of the homeschoolers are primarily white with a christian bias. There’s an opportunity there to create a real subculture of… Read more »

    • I could not agree more. It literally is child abuse to send a young White boy or girl to public schools. In fact, the fallout of the pandemic overreach and fraud will include a huge erosion in support of public school systems, which is long overdue.

    • As someone subjected to the Public Schools during the mainstreaming of SpEds and the elimination of Tracking/Levelling, I couldn’t agree more. I was routinely punished for “reading ahead.” My siblings and I all agree we would have been better and more cheaply educated sat in front of the TV or left to our own devices than attending the local public schools.

  26. Unfortunately, white nationalism remains such a fringe movement, a force cutting into such severe headwinds, that it is bound to attract quite a few eccentrics. It takes an unusual person, indeed, to willingly adopt an ideology that is so consistently and harshly reviled in one’s own country. It is so much easier to simply bend with the wind and be carried along with the tide. Those of us posting on this blog have chosen to take the path of greatest resistance. This certainly doesn’t make us wrong, but it does make us abnormal in a sense.

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