During Covid, one of the questions that kicked around was how would the public react when they found out the government was lying? The answer is we do not know as the whole thing has been thrown down the memory hole for the most part. The truth about Covid has slowly seeped into the public consciousness, but no one asks them about it and no media outlet discusses it. The best anyone can tell is that the Covid lies have become a part of the general cynicism.
We will soon get another case to see how the public will respond when the truth is nothing like what they have been told by the media. In the case of Project Ukraine, this test will happen in Europe where the local media talks about the war in Ukraine in terms that have always been fanciful. It was European media that gave us the “Ghost of Kiev” and the babushkas knocking down fighter jets with canned goods. They continue to feed their public outlandish stories about the war.
Those with an interest in the war and access to the internet can find out what is actually happening on the battlefield. The facts are often blurred by the fog of war and the bias of the people doing the reporting, but with some patience you can get a good picture of what is happening in Ukraine. It is even possible to get a sense of what is happening outside the war zone as there are still plenty of Ukrainians posting stuff to popular apps like Telegram and Instagram.
Very little of this reality gets into Europeans media. Instead, they produce content like this from the UK Telegraph, which is supposed to be a serious media platform, not the typical British tabloid. Not only are they “reporting” that Ukrainian “wonder weapons are decimating the Russians”, but they also have a special section with high production quality explanations of those wonder weapons. In other words, this is a highly choregraphed bit of propaganda designed to deceive the public.
The wonder weapon stuff is mild compared to some of the other posts you will find about Ukraine in the Telegraph. This one claims the Ukrainians are about to seize Crimea because their squadrons of unicorns are showering the place with magical fairy dust they shoot from their ass. That is not an exaggeration, as magical farting unicorns would be more plausible than the contents of the actual post. The whole thing is a fantasy with no basis in reality.
It is not just the UK media that is gaslighting the public. The German media is full of similarly nonsensical stories. Here is the Ukraine page for Bild, which you can use Google to translate into English. Die Zeit is probably the most respected news site in Germany, and it just copies and pastes whatever Kiev, or the neocons send them about what is happening in the war. While not as ridiculous as the UK media, the continental media is gaslighting its public just as hard.
The problem is the war is going horribly for Ukraine. The Russian army is slowly and methodically grinding the Ukraine army into bits. Every month the Ukrainians are forced to fall back at some point along the line of contact. The Russians have knocked out the power grid of the country, which means there is no electric for up to twenty hours per day in some areas. The Ukrainian army is literally snatching men off the streets and sending them to the front due to a lack of manpower.
What Ukraine war watchers have known for a long time is that at some point, the Ukraine army will not be able to keep fighting. At some point, the Russians will decide it is time to end the war on its terms. Given that this is a proxy war between Washington and Moscow, the assumption is the fall is when things come to a head, just in time for the presidential election. Maybe it will happen sooner or maybe later, but at some point, reality will burst through those European headlines.
From a distance, it is hard to know if the firehose of nonsense about the war is fooling the European public. The recent elections suggest that at the minimum the public is tired of the ruling parties putting the welfare of Ukraine ahead of the welfare of the European people. It is possible that the Euros have been wise to the media nonsense about Ukraine, but simply care more about other things. Like Covid, it is hard to know as no one bothers to find out what the public thinks.
Unlike Covid, the collapse of Project Ukraine is not going to be easy to sweep under the rug by ignoring it. With Covid, the liars scurried off with their bags of cash and the pols declared victory as they let their foot off the neck of the public. The general public was simply happy to get back to normal. That is probably not going to work with Ukraine as there is no benefit to putting the topic in the past. There will simply be what the media claimed to be true and the truth, which is the opposite.
Compounding the problem in Europe is the fact that the leading politicians have made Ukraine their signature issue. In the U.S., the pols have been giving it a good leaving alone for a year now, other than the big funding push in February. Note that as soon as that bill passed, they changed the subject. In Europe, the political class has made Ukraine a test of their legitimacy. Therefore, when the Ukraine army surrenders, they cannot shrug and move on to other issues.
One of the lessons of the Soviet era was that the accumulation of lies eventually saps even the most repressive regime of legitimacy. The Soviet system fell apart when no one could think of a reason to support it, not even the people at the top of the system who benefitted from it the most. In this way, Ukraine and Covid may be analogous to Afghanistan and Chernobyl. These are events that delegitimize the system by making clear that nothing it says or does is on the level.
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The cumulative effect of all this will be something similar to “stagflation,” but whatever the cultural equivalent of that would be. Things will suck, but nothing will happen other than further grinding disintegration (much like the Ukie military, ironically) because everyone will be beyond caring.
No government can survive a people that sees their institutions as a deposit of wealth they can loot if they can get away with it. We’re seeing this here in the United States, where hard working people are being made suckers by wealthy hucksters and low-IQ looters. When things get bad enough, those suckers become less and less satisfied with the scraps they get.
It doesn’t matter how brilliant their policies are, nor how draconian their surveillance. It will still be run top-down by people with no loyalty other than looking for the next quick buck.
I suspect the smarter elites in DC know the gig is up. Just a frenzy to grab all they can and figure out how to stay one step ahead of the lynch mob.
Between this and the loss of the petro-dollar, the Satanic cabal that runs this empire is quickly losing credibility. Even normies are starting to see through the bluster. This is how revolutions start. The end of the Czarist regime started with the slaughter at the Battle of Tsushima, when the Russians lost 11 battleships when Admiral Togo and the Japanese Navy “crossed their T” in the narrow straits. Maybe a defeat in Ukraine does the same for Western regimes such as ours that seek the destruction of the people they rule with mass immigration, cultural debauchery such as sodomy, legal… Read more »
Can someone explain to me whether Russia no longer accepting Dollars or Euros in their stock exchange is big, a nothing-burger, or simply another small domino to de-dollarization? I’m hearing conflicting takes and don’t have the background knowledge to make sense of it.
Another brick in the wall. Apparently a petro-dollar settlement agreement with the Saudis, dating back to 1974, just expired (have to confirm) and the first $50b of frozen Russian asset transfer to the “war effort” has been approved. This will not end well.
I’m of the camp that the Saudis know they have the US by the short and curlies and are going to extract some real gains before they sign up again.
Say what you will about Arabs, but they are shrewd hagglers.
I don’t think they’ll ever sign that deal again. Not when they can now escape the constant American woke preaching and accept payment in any currency.
They’re already joining BRICS. If the are worried about security, they can work with the Russians, Indians, and Chinese. None of them have the unpleasant strings attached like American security agreements.
The Saudis are hedging their bets. The demise of the petrodollar doesn’t preclude acceptance of dollars at all, which will be necessary for the foreseeable future, but allows flexibility for a future date when that no longer is the case. It seems a quite smart move.
GAE’s regime change shenanigans in the Middle East this century no doubt have the House of Saud somewhat uneasy,
Well, let’s be honest, the Russians are still (sort of) accepting dollars for their oil and nat gas. Sure, you have to pay for them in rubles but how do you get those rubles? You exchange dollars and Euros for rubles, which means that Russia is still getting their dollars and Euros. Regardless, the Russians, Chinese, Indians, Saudis, etc., are slowly, every so slowly, trying to build an alternative trade/finance system to diminish the power of the dollar. That said, it will take time. Also, their biggest problem is that there’s not an alternative to build around. They’re setting up… Read more »
A distinction has to be made between elimination of the petrodollar and the current strength and prevalence of the dollar, no? The Saudis, it seems wisely, are still acknowledging the current supremacy of the dollar and transitioning to a time when it no longer is a necessity, however far off into the future that is.
Absolutely. The entire world is looking at how to create alternative systems of trade and finance. It’s just going to take time. Also, the big problem remains that there’s no alternative to the dollar as the GRC.
However, there’s no doubt that countries are trying to move away from treasuries as the way to store dollars. The big buyers of treasuries now are US households, pension funds, insurance and banks – all of which are interest rate sensitive, btw.
Oddly, or not so oddly, my fund management holds a percentage in gold for stability—more than Treasuries that pay 5%+.
Washington put some new sanctions in place thinking they could create a run on the ruble. If you cannot easily exchange rubles for dollars or euros after August, then people might start dumping rubles. The Russians cut this off my suspending the exchange, thus forcing out euros and dollars entirely. I believe you can still use the exchange for yuan to dollars and euros and yuan to rubles, so the net will be more yuan to rubles business, which is good for China, but not so good for Western banks.
Much like Ukraine has taught Russia how to fight a modern war and test its tactics and equipment, the sanctions are teaching the world how to fight a financial/trade war. The Chinese, Russians, etc., are learning a lot of valuable lessons.
Project Ukraine has turned out to be a complete disaster to GAE, though the neocons, as always, are completely unaware of this fact.
Will the European ruling class try to make the Yankees their scapegoat? “If only those horrid Americans had printed another 60 gorillion dollars and worn their “Ask me about KEEEEEV!” pins a few month longer, the Ukes could have taken Vladivostok.”
This seems especially likely in the event of a Trump win.
EU is a vassal of the US. If they weren’t there wouldn’t be the war in Ukraine right now.
Have you heard of the latest Wunderwaffen that will bring Ukraine victory? In the Hartz mountains, NATO discovered a cave with V-2s and Me 262, refurbished them, and are transferring them to Ukraine this morning.
“Steiner’s assault will bring it under control”
A Harz Rocket Cafe will soon open in Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev.
Cool, I hope to see the ME-262’s at an airshow soon. Oh this topic for the essay this morning is bringing back a very nasty argument last night between myself and a friend from Kiev. Summation: He’s livid that Trump won the primaries and that we didn’t do the smart thing and choose Nimrata over OMB. Because the pajeeta had a clear and concise plan for defeating Putler and Trump just wants to be seen shaking hands with another dictator and get his name in the paper. The more I attempted to explain to him that my countrymen have had… Read more »
Yes this is a common problem with foreign friends. “You Americans are so arrogant, thinking you can dictate to the world blah blah”. “Oh my God, how can you ignore the suffering in Kreplachistan!. Do something!”
Zero consequences for any pols or generals over 20 years of GWOT; even the Afghanistan pullout debacle barely ruffled any feathers. This won’t be any different. No Congressional inquiries, no War Powers Act…our Congress loves this stuff.
European leaders are already incredibly unpopular with their bases, but on they go. “Democracy” wins again.
I am surprised it’s taken Russia so long though. Hard to tell if this is good or bad? An unstoppable Russia would frighten the West to it’s senses; a Russia taking this long to finish off Ukraine looks anemic and the West just keeps poking the bear.
They’re trying to push the bird flu pretty hard, but so far, the public doesn’t seem to buy it. That’s healthy skepticism imo, but I’d rather see demands for accountability.
Majority of people I talk to still believe the official story that covid was a deadly pathogen that somehow became more benign. Most also believe that the vaxx is somewhat effective, but not worth it. A minority keeps taking the boosters.
Probably true, but that simply shows how low the average intellect is that now resides in the US. On the other hand, do those people play a significant role in directing US policy? I’m hoping not.
Tell me this wasn’t covid and notice when it happened……..what else was very recent at that time……. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic “In January 2010, Wolfgang Wodarg, a German deputy who trained as a physician and chaired the health committee at the Council of Europe, claimed that major firms had organized a “campaign of panic” to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a “false pandemic” to sell vaccines. Wodarg said the WHO’s “false pandemic” flu campaign is “one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century”. He said that the “false pandemic” campaign began in May 2009 in Mexico City,… Read more »
Exactly.
it ties into that final blurb from our esteemed blog host: The Soviet Union collapsed when the rules collapsed. The people have to see that the laws work, and they need to see justice being done when the shysters and incompetent get taken down.
In China, they publicly try corrupt officials and punish them. It’s not uncommon to see carpetbaggers getting shot. The Americans made sure everyone saw “the tree of liberty being watered with the blood of tyrants”. Nothing less can save the US now.
Absolutely! Certainly for me, hence the inner longing for a strongman—the concept of “Dictator” from the history of Ancient Rome. Translated into more modern sensibilities, the folks involved in the scamdemic must be tried and imprisoned and have their wealth and credentials confiscated. They can then be released and allowed to wander through society as a living warning to the wise of the dangers of greed and hubris. Bring back show trials for these clowns. On the other hand, I’m not hopeful. After WWII, the Allies rounded up or identified thousands of NAZI’s for trial, yet abandoned the process after… Read more »
Ukrainian population went from 52 million in 1992 to ~28 million in what’s left of Ukraine today. Success?
Even if a miracle happens and they somehow reconquer all the lost territories, the country will be destroyed and will never recover, especially with today’s birthrates.
Btw, if another, much smaller, miracle happens, then the “far-right” will win a majority in France in less than a month. Could get interesting.
Well, look at it this way. Blackrock, etal can take title to the “rump” and the rest of Europe can begin unloading infinite African/Islamist “enrichers”
Zelenskyiyi promised to turn Ukraine into Israel 2.0. With the way things are going in the Middle East, it could take on a literal meaning.
It is hard to see how Le Pen could attain power without an outright 50-plus majority win. Doable, maybe, but the political structure certainly is geared to forestall it. The same applies to AfD in Germany.
Also, a certain blogger who shall not be named recently suggested Macron called the snap election in anticipation of the fall of Ukraine afterwards. That has merit. If Ukraine implodes in the very near term, the outside possibility of a Le Pen government becomes a probability.
AmRen covered the anti-white, anti-American Pierre Omidyar – the eBay who came to America and, thanks to America being an open society, became a multi-billionaire. How or why is this relevant to today’s post? Omidyar has been cleverly using his non-profits to perform regulatory capture of the FCC and other important government bodies. He is clamoring for breaking up the tech monopolies and is deeply dissatisfied with how non-inclusive America is. He is building up his DIE sinecure army of comissars. This is a war in the clouds. Will it portend further splits in the oligarchy and moves toward open… Read more »
If Vladolf Putler were as effective as his (alleged) predecessor, the Russkies would be in Paris already. Doesn’t sound like they have any Rommels or Mannsteins…
Sorry Z Man, but the epic evil behind Covid completely dominates that being perpetrated in the Ukraine. Here in The Isles, nobody much seems to care about the “GAE-initiated-proxy-war-with-Russia”. It is rarely mentioned by those whose company I frequent. The only time people seemed to care was when petrol prices went from around £1.40 per litre to £1.99. That was bad. As you, and all readers here well know, Covid was orders of magnitude was than the Ukraine thing. The lies and distortion were epic and had direct effects and everybody, everywhere, for the best part of two years. If… Read more »
No doubt Covid dwarfs the Ukraine folly (at least prior to Canned Sunshine bringing about a New Morning in America), but as I read it Z was talking about the cumulative effect of the two.
Jack, I’m not really even sure that for anyone except Dissidents, there’ll be much of a cumulative effect. Most have accepted the memory-holing, and so the Uke lies will simply be taken as one isolated incident. That is to say that most people only care about the Government’s present lies, if they care at all. I also read it the way the way you mentioned, but I just feel that the two events are so beyond compare with regards to magnitude, that Covid itself ought to have been enough. But it wasn’t. That said, not sure if I’ve articulated myself… Read more »
You have a point. Low information voters will buy into the inevitable excuse that the Ukraine conflict could have been won if we had only given more aid faster to Ukraine.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read about the new American superweapon that is going to bring Putler to his knees. At this point I cannot imagine there are many true believers anymore. The ones still talking like this have either their ego on the line or are just trying to get a piece of the looting operation that it has become (this includes the think tanks). The fact that it trudges on shows what a disconnect there is between the government institutions and the people in our “sacred democracy.” The dynamic in Europe must be taken in… Read more »
“The Soviet system fell apart when no one could think of a reason to support it…” My high schooler has a penchant for math and physics. Not a genius, but he likes solving complex problems. Added bonus, he has a personality and is able to talk to women. If we lived in the country I grew up in (“America”), I would encourage him to go into nuclear design/ maintenance. These piles of controlled fission are NOT going to take care of themselves. Unfortunately, we live in The GAE/ AINO. I am pushing him into being an actuary/ investment banker. He… Read more »
It really is hard to pinpoint one single event that brought about the dissolution of the Soviet Union, so the cumulative effect of lying along with a series of catastrophes probably is at least a partial explanation. Some have suggested the early message boards and other forerunners of the digital information age played a major role after they became hard to suppress. That does seem plausible. Access to information is not the friend of totalitarianism. Acquaintances who came of age in the old East Bloc have told me that sudden mass awareness of Western prosperity in fact was a key… Read more »
Maybe “infinite immigration, gay sex and child sterilization” is the regime’s “perestroika and glasnost”.
That would reflect the Regime’s competence, to be sure.
In AINO, it’s assnost and nuggrastroika.
You subtilely bring up a difference between the old USSR and today’s USSA—race and religion.
The collapse of the USSR left the repressed Orthodox Church as a rallying institution and the Russian people were intact as a race. The Church was never poz’d as our religious institutions are. Yes, there were a number of other peoples in the empire, but they lived in their own territories. White Russians remained one people, and the major one at that.
Let’s say the European public, en masse, concludes–rightly–that its rulers mendacious lackeys for the BFE. Then what? At least AINO’s public is armed to the teeth, albeit with small arms. Europeans have nothing more than slingshots and shillelaghs. Maybe unarmed mass protests and strikes would drive the treasonous ruling class from its lairs. One can hope, I suppose.
There are plenty of things a spiritually aware and conscious populace can do, Osteii.
The hardest part, I believe, is not what follows The Awakening, but rather getting The Awakening in the first place.
Of course, I don’t mean to denigrate the struggle that will come after.
“One of the lessons of the Soviet era was that the accumulation of lies eventually saps even the most repressive regime of legitimacy.”
That’s only one part of the lesson the other part has to do with Levi’s Jeans. Because it wasn’t a free society, it did not have the freedom to innovate like a free society can. Therefore, they had a lower standard of living and lower quality goods they could buy on the shelves. If they were living fat and happy, they wouldn’t care what their government did, so long as it didn’t affect them.
“Unlike Covid, the collapse of Project Ukraine is not going to be easy to sweep under the rug by ignoring it.” I don’t see how this could be true, especially in America. Ukraine is just some abstraction and has no impact on anyone here. Even all the money and weapons we are giving them remain abstractions. Nobody’s taxes went up because of it. We know we will pay the price eventually, but that remains in the future. Few are capable of understanding inflation being partially driven by the war in Ukraine (not to mention Covid). But Covid was far from… Read more »
I now believe I have heard nothing but propaganda from both sides. I can’t believe anything any more.