Over the weekend, the news brought word that Greg Johnson had been arrested in Norway on incitement charges. The details are still coming out, but the basics are that a far-left group claimed he was a terrorist and the Norwegian authorities just took their word for it and had him detained. Presumably, they will deport him from the country and try to have him banned from the continent. That is a popular tactic for radical extremists to use in Europe to harass Americans they don’t like.
Of course, calling these domestic terror groups radical or extreme is just a way to express contempt for them using common language. It’s not an accurate description of where they stand on the political spectrum. When Antifa or the SPLC can dictate terms to the political class, they are neither radical or extreme. They are the mainstream, well within the conventional of the ruling class. It is what we use to call normal people, with their rules and procedures, who are now the outliers.
This is a lesson that dissidents have to internalize. Many on this side of the divide are stuck in the past, with regards to the political landscape. They assume we live in a rule-based society, in which one can appeal to a neutral authority for relief when the Left violates the rules. If that world ever existed, it is long gone. We live in a soft authoritarianism, where the rules are whatever the people in power say they are at any point in time. It’s not rule of law. It is rule by left-wing fanatic.
As such, the old Chinese curse should always be at the front of the mind of the dissident. That curse is, “may the government become aware of you.” The Chinaman, having lived under some form of authoritarian bureaucracy for thousands of years, is conditioned to understand the reality of his relationship to society. The Chinaman knows that the bureaucrat can and will inflict unlimited cruelty as only a bureaucrat can, if given the opportunity. The wise person avoids making himself known to them.
In the case of modern dissidents in the modern West, it means avoiding any and all contact with the crazies the managerial class deploys as lures and traps. That’s the only utility of groups like Antifa, Hope Not Hate and the ADL. Their role is to keep beating the bushes in order to lure dissidents out into the open. Then they can attack, giving their handlers in the bureaucracy the excuse to bring the hammer down on the people involved in the skirmish. If a few left-wing street activists are harmed, so be it.
The primary weapon of the soft authoritarian is the lie. Because they operate inside a thicket of rules and regulations, they know a well-placed lie can turn those rules into a spider web, tangling up the victim for years. In the struggle to free himself, he may make addition mistakes, allowing other spiders in the system to vomit forth their digestive acids onto the victim. Even if the victim can free himself, he has lost time and resources, making him weaker and more timid.
This is on full display with the seditious plot to overturn the 2016 election. The people involved are not very bright. Most are the sort who, in a saner age, would be manning a rural Post Office branch or maybe stamping forms down at the title office. In a soft authoritarianism, they rise through the ranks, spinning their webs on behalf of the system, getting rewarded for their treachery and deceit. That plot was a revolt of sexless bureaucrats lashing out a reminder of what they are not.
This sort of ruling system attracts a certain sort of person. The type that enjoys tangling people up in a web of lies is a timid sociopath, who hates himself and therefore the world that created him. These are people who can only enjoy what they feel as pleasure by witnessing the suffering of others. Look around the Left and you see sexless, passive males and bitter deranged females. These are people who live to inflict misery on others, hoping it will bring them relief from their own miserable lives.
What this means for dissidents in the West is cleaning the mind of those old civic nationalist notions of a lawful society judged by neutral arbiters. That world does not exist and cannot be conjured into existence. There is no shaming these people into acting like normal people, capable of living in a civilized, orderly society. They are chaotic evil. They have no respect for rules, other people’s lives, or anything but their own desire for revenge against a world that has made them some hideous.
It’s why moaning about the collapse of free speech in the West is just self-flagellation, unless it is to convert people to the dissident cause. The ethos of the modern dissident is to never allow an outrage to go to waste. Use every incident to force the civic nationalist to confront the reality of his situation. For now, the best that can be done is to spread a quiet cynicism about the system. A society of cynical people is much more expensive to rule than a population still under the ether of civic nationalism.
More important though, it means operating in the shadows. The days or organizing in public, holding well-advertised gatherings and participating in constructive public debate are gone. That reality will surely make many angry and indignant, but for a dissident to have any hope, he must always accept the reality of his situation. Otherwise, he will always be drawn into that web of lies and deceits that are spun to ensnare the people into the soft authoritarianism of the neo-liberal order.
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This is where the “white supremacist system” and “patriarchy” come into play. These people are generally freaks that polite society has rules against. The education system has convinced them that the white supremacist system and patriarchy is what prevents them from being happy and fulfilled. They believe if they crush the WSS and patriarchy, everyone will be free to be their freak selves. They lie to themselves and others about how they are really fighting for women and oppressed minorities and other fairy tales, when in reality it is all good old fashioned self interest.
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Analyze and predict. It’s getting worse faster because modern society rewards and reinforces parasitic behaviors rather than purging these miscreants as natural evolution would normally accomplish. Norway’s nationalized oil wealth has created extreme affluence, cancerous government, and an epidemic of dependence and parasitism in the birthplace of Viking robustness. This is a very bad harbinger of the future of our species.
Dissidents faded into the shadows are likely to remain there. Counteraction is needed. Undermining Conservative, Inc. is a start.
Help me out here… “What this means for dissidents in the West is cleaning the mind of those old civic nationalist notions of a lawful society judged by neutral arbiters. That world does not exist and cannot be conjured into existence. ……………………………….. The ethos of the modern dissident is to never allow an outrage to go to waste.” Trying to navigate the message(s) here. Old America is dead, I’ve been living and working in a veneer of modernity, supported by my participation. Got it. Can’t vote my way out (or back). Agree and taking that to heart. Wake up normies… Read more »
I just read a tweet from Sara Carter (Repub who often appears on Hannity’s show) about Ilhan Omar supporting Bernie Sanders. I scrolled through all the replies and everything was about removing or voting Omar out, along with a few about “socialism sucks,” etc. There was nothing (except for my reply) about stopping mass immigration to keep people like Omar and Tlaib out of office and to prevent many more like them getting elected. That thought doesn’t occur to these conservatives.
In the words of Janice Jopllin, “freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose.” The dissident right can organize, in the open, all it wants as long as the people organizing have no career, especially in a liberal industry, or work in a profession far removed from HR Kamala Harris like harpies to inflict damage. My thought is that generally, by nature, most dissident right people are responsible and thoughtful, in technical professions, have assets to lose, etc. You can’t just go out and wave the banner in that situation. Antifa, on the other hand may work part time… Read more »
The groypers’ trolling of Charlie Kirk (and coming up, Shapiro, Crenshaw and others) shows you can use their institutions for publicity and recruiting. Subverting the subversives, in a way. Let’s see what happens with the Kansas State chapter of TPUSA. They could try to form a parallel organization, which would open them up for attack. Or create an underground group that provides a template for converting other YAF/TPUSA chapters, if they can figure out a way to make it institutional (accept freshmen when current seniors depart). The basic idea is to leverage YAF/TPUSA’s finding and organiziing people leaning our way.… Read more »
Conservative Inc is ripe for the “something-or-other”. If Kirk is now the public face of Con-job-Inc, if they need to send a nationalist jew from Israel to sell kosher nationalism to grumbling goys…then this may be our moment. Con-Inc has a bullhorn and a bank account…and followers who are nervously trying to be good whites but are finding it increasingly harder and self-defeating to do so. It won’t take much more to turn them our way (thanks mainly to the increasingly unhinged anti-whites). A handful of young guys have them in a panic with just 2 or 3 appearances. If… Read more »
I would assume that Conservative Inc. will respond by limiting questions to plants they have in the audience. This stunt works a few times and then it is countered.
It is also likely that Conservative Inc. will deploy planted questioners who ask hateful questions to impugn the honest and effective questioners we have seen.
Exactly. But that in itself will be a sign of defeat. Even college kids can sniff out canned questions. Also, mingling among the crowd telling them that questioners are plants and that you weren’t allowed to ask a question will quickly turn a crowd against Kirk types. Conservative Inc is running a con, and cons only work if the mark is completely unaware that there’s a con going on. (Well, unless the mark really wants to believe in the con.) Once the mark starts to get suspicious, the obvious signs of the con (particularly horribly orchestrated cons like these) becomes… Read more »
That will make their events boring and open to mockery. The only people interested will be old Republicans and the only young people there will be the plants.
From their perspective, that’s a win. Their main role is to fill the space where an authentic alternative should exist.
Am I the only one that finds it odd that Dan “Zioclops” Crenshaw represents a swing district but the Democrats have no interest in beating him?
Almost as if he serves their purposes by being there…
Does TPUSA even have any support among real college students? Students are either apolitical, leftists, or extremely resentful about the indoctrination they are receiving. They’re not buying what Kirk is selling.
I watched that, Kirk was gradually becoming unhinged, and the audience was booing him.
Best question of the evening was something along the lines of, “Since when did anal sex become a conservative value?”
While I liked that question as well, it can be reframed as vulgar homophobia. I thought the most effective question was, “How can we conserve Western values when immigrants vote against these values in overwhelming numbers.?”
You’re playing the “don’t offend the people who hate me” game.
It is homosexuality that is vulgar, and forthright disgust with it that is normal. Don’t be ashamed.
The 2 questions work in tandem. Let Kirk babble on about how non-whites and degenerates are “natural conservatives”, and then expose just what those “conservative values” really are.
It’s too bad that Americans have adopted the Semitic barbarism of circumcision. Here in Euroland, you simply ask if it’s in accordance with European values to mutilate the genitals of newborns? I’ve flushed out a few ((fellow white people)) with that one.
What’s the feelings about circumcision in goy America these days? Any chance it could become a cause célèbre? Not mutilating baby’s peepee ought to be an easy sell.
A fundamentalist branch of my clan has eschewed circumcision. Ironically their love of israel is boundless. Crudely, i can sum up the objections of many americans to the foreskin in two words: dick cheese. apologies.
You’d slavishly mutilate your sons in imitation of your Jewish overlords, and your reply is “dick cheese”?
How about you teach him to clean his dick and let him decide for himself when he comes of age?
I have no strong feelings about circumcision one way or another, but just as a data point: I was born mid-60s in a White gentile mostly Catholic working-class northeastern USA enclave, and I was procedurally circumcised just as a standard matter of what was then considered pediatric best practice. I’ve never thought twice about it. And so was everybody else I grew up with. So much so that, despite being now rather cosmopolitan and having had memberships in various high-end fitness clubs (and thus their showers and saunas etc) I have to say, I don’t actually know what an uncircumcised… Read more »
Well you make it sound cucked when you put it like that.
Get some women’s magazine to run a survey on whether their readership prefers “cut or uncut”.
That will at least you a starting point in your fight.
Falling out of favor but not as fast as it should.
Is Foregen legit or should I be looking into stretching?
Is Foregen legit or should I be looking into stretching?
Never knew that was a thing! A bit too radical, perhaps, almost adding insult to injury.
The groyper tet offensive. https://twitter.com/ServiusAlbus/status/1190048719942631425
groyper
I prefer “Nicker”, although it may give The Mexican Savior a bit too much credit, but still…
“The N-word? What!?! Noooononono! I would never, EVER say the n-word, perish the thought! I said ‘Nicker!’ Hear the difference? Nicker, nicker, nicker nicker?”
The worst possible outcome would be for this to turn into a cult of personality.
And the best possible outcome would be if MSM talkheads were forced to bleep it out.
The gag going around during the Obama administration was that Michelle constantly nagged Obama. Therefore, she was a nagger. And as we know, most people just don’t care for naggers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbR9QDfyTco
I’m surprised they haven’t taken that one down yet.
Right now there are two avenues: One is to operate in the shadows, assume there is no institutional protection, and wait until the time is ripe for general insurrection. Two is to do what the Fuentes/Groyper/Logos crowd is doing: hijack religion. They see having a religious backing gives them moral authority and a degree of institutional support. I am not religious, but I do think the second avenue has merit. Absent a better way to change things, now, nationally, I think this has promise, as opposed to forming secret societies.
I love what the Groyper Army is doing, but they are very sadly mistaken if they think their religion will be a shield. That will just make them easy to condemn. What they need to understand is they can be sand in the gears of Conservative Inc. They can operate like a guerrilla army against efforts to impose Conservative Inc on campus. That’s as far as it goes. At some point soon, the hammer will come down and they will have to find a new tactic.
The only protection religion will provide is to state-sanctioned religions: ie. climate change, diversity, and anti- straight white male victimhood.
You can disagree whether these are actually religions all you want, but the fact is they function as such, and for most people that’s all that matters.
Something tells me David French will not lecture the Left about free expression over this. He save his lectures for us and how tranny readings in the library represents true freedom.
When Antifa or the SPLC can dictate terms to the political class, they are neither radical or extreme.
Or maybe the political class is both radical and extreme.
The Booby will say it again: Stop feeding the parasites, if you haven’t already. The bankrupt state needs the economy to grow; don’t help it. It’s already vulnerable. Just a few ideas: * Contribute as little consumption as possible to the official economy. * Take your assets, as much as possible, out the official economy. * Take your kids out of public schools. * If your kids have embraced the totalitarianism of the age, cut them off, lest their consumption feed the economy with the money that you worked for and saved. * Keep your eye on your wives. You’d… Read more »
“This sort of ruling system attracts a certain sort of person. The type that enjoys tangling people up in a web of lies is a timid sociopath, who hates himself and therefore the world that created him.”
I like how this resonates with Bruce Charlton’s idea that bureaucracy is the earthly manifestation of metaphysical evil. It is specifically designed to be impersonal, heartless, and cruel.
“There is no shaming these people into acting like normal people, capable of living in a civilized, orderly society.” And yet, the dolts who like to read the WSJ and watch Fox News are constantly headlining stories that triumphantly trumpet the “hypocrisy of the left” – as if the intended target of their exposé really gives a damn. Who are they writing this crap for? Step by step the left has spent the last 60 years slowly tightening the screws while the silly CivNats run around with an oil can to make sure those rusty bolts lefty is tightening don’t… Read more »
I took my son and several of his buddies to Amren on a lark. One of who is totally pozed while my son (brag,a national merit scholar) less so. I’m tolerated as a eccentric for my nasi podcasts and buddies. They were visibly shaken by the bollards and cops on horseback and tight security. I purchased a signed copy of Greg’s book while at Amren. You should see the look on their faces when i announced that he is a political prisoner now. I suspect Vege is being ironic, but this is winning. Arresting a harmless sweetheart like Johnson indicates… Read more »
CC has a mailing address for cash or whatever donations.
Lots of truth here. What white guys, and their allies (yeah, we do have quite a few) need to get over is the idea that we’re still living in America. The USA was a beautiful country once, but its gone now, and everybody needs to adjust to this. The regime we live under now killed America, and is now wearing its skin. Seeing as how CivNats are the only thing keeping the whole sick show on the road, the sooner they get wise to the true situation, the sooner we can started building something new.
“The USA was a beautiful country once, but it’s gone now…”
Just come out and say the word, and say it clearly: Jews.
Jews.
We’re not going to be building anything. All we’re going to be able to do is ensure that we can have descendants. They can build something
Possibly, but I’m not so pessimistic. We can lay some foundations, or at least start clearing the site where foundations can be put down. But yes, having descendants is important as well.
Spend time in the third world outside of that which exists in the USA and you will find a refreshing cynicism about the institutions of power. No one genuinely believes the pronouncements of their masters. The sort of saccharin BS worship of the police and military that infects White Middle America simply does not have an analogue in a place like Vietnam or Panama. This is one area where we’d be wise to emulate our little brown brothers.
When people have written despairing comments about “What can we do now?” I have acknowledged that we are currently at a low point but must look for opportunities. What the groypers are doing now is what I had in mind (not that I am taking credit for their actions).
We are effectively shackled right now, but there are still opportunities to pull away the veil for the normies to see what is really going on. We survive, wait, watch, and act when possible.
Like Washington at Valley Forge or Mao outside the cities. We survive, watch, and prepare.
There’s still faith in the system among the Right that the evil Democrats can be defeated and then Trump can get on with the business of restoring greatness to America. These are the Hannity watchers and Rush listeners, and some are Q plan-trusters. Typically they think the way forward is to remove Ilhan Omar from office, convince voters that socialism sucks, proclaim that Israel is our greatest ally, and always refer to America as the greatest nation on earth. We all know these people, and they’re generally good, hardworking people who love their nation. They’re also typically the type who… Read more »
Re-reading my post I realize I described patriotic boomer-types. Maybe it’s better to target young people. I like what the ‘groypers’ are doing at the TPUSA events. More of that. At least until they shut down the Q&A.
Yeah. Personally, I’m getting a Tdap vaccine. These crazies are taking us into the past like you said in the previous post and nobody wants to die of tetanus. Horrible. And I know diphtheria and whooping cough or essentially gone and childhood illnesses but I have no doubt they’re coming back also. My next doctor’s appointment is in December and I’m getting it then. Just trying to think practically.
There was a picture of a prescription for the flu vaccine going around last week. It was one of those informational pamphlets they give you when you get a prescription. Printed right on it was the warning ‘this vaccine has not been clinically tested’
The world burns somewhat evenly. The destruction is widespread and affects things like medicine, water, sewage, electricity etc.
I’m actually not sure what your point is but Tdap has been tested and is very effective. Diphtheria was a leading cause of death for Millennia and was virtually eradicated a hundred years ago
Johnson getting deported is what winning is going to look like for the foreseeable future.