The youthful rebellion against establishment gate keepers on the college campus has mostly confirmed what has always been understood about the front men hired to be the face of these operations. Never having to answer tough questions allows them to fool people, especially young people, about their motives. The questions young people are posing these guys are not all that tough, but when posed to hot house flowers not used to push-back, the result have been devastating.
The main take-away thus far is that Charlie Kirk is the political equivalent of a lip-syncing pop star. In narrowly staged performances, as long as the sound track works perfectly and the lights are just right, Kirk can put on a good show. When he has to rely on his own talent to carry the show, the results are comically poor. He was recently booed off the stage at his UCLA event. Like that lip-syncing pop star, who gets exposed during a stage mishap, Kirk’s career is now a laughingstock.
Kirk, of course, is not the only fraudster to get the business from the groypers, as it has now become the cool thing to do. Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire, who is always a skipped pill away from a shooting spree, had to be sedated after getting some tough questions from college boys. The cynical con-man Dan Crenshaw has responded by threatening to ruin the lives of these kids. It appears that Pirate Dan is trying to prove that honorable military service is independent of good character.
The most interesting result thus far has been the meltdown by Ben Shapiro last week, which was so bad he had to pull it from his YouTube channel. The comments were full of young people mocking him. Shapiro is probably the smartest of the con-men deployed by Conservative Inc., but he is also the most thin-skinned. Any push-back is met with a childish tantrum. Like Charlie Kirk, it suggests he is a hothouse flower, carefully protected by his handlers, in order to maintain the charade.
If you pay attention to his act, what comes through is he has a deep, subconscious hatred of white people. Take for example his promotion of the dubious claim that European civilization is defined by Judeo-Christian tradition. For most of Western history, Christianity and Judaism were at odds. In the early medieval period, Jews and Christians competed for converts. When the term Judeo-Christian came into use in the 17th and 18th century, it was as a Pauline pejorative against Catholicism.
Putting aside the history, what he is doing is rewriting the European past in order to make it dependent on his religious and ethnic traditions. You can have your Christianity, as long as it is accepting of Jews, which neuters the theologically. You can also have your Western chauvinism, as long as you make sure Jews are central characters in the narrative. Ben Shapiro’s view of Western civilization is colonial, as if he is allowing white people to have some conditional cultural heritage.
This becomes clear when Shapiro says “white civilization is nonsensical.” He says that “civilization is defined by culture, history and philosophy.” He is divorcing what he calls Western civilization from the people who created it. Like his sleight of hand swapping out Catholicism from the heart of European history, he is turning Western civilization into a gift inexplicably granted to the people of Europe. It is not something European people created, but something they received, like hitting the lottery.
There is an obvious implication to this train of thought. If white people are just lucky recipients of civilization, then they are not really deserving of it. This would explain Shapiro’s love for non-white immigration. Why shouldn’t everyone get a taste of this civilization thing? It’s only fair. When he says “he does not give a good damn about the so-called browning of America,” he is not entirely honest. In fact, he really cares, as he is in total support of it as an act of retributive justice.
You can never know what is in someone’s heart and it is entirely possible that Shapiro has not thought through any of this. It is increasingly clear that he is clever, but not a deep thinker. He possesses a vermin-like rapacity that is often mistaken for smart and ambitious in this degraded age. His act is therefore about presenting himself as a smart guy, who just happens to agree with an audience desperate to throw money at anyone showing them some respect. He’s just working the suckers.
Either way, the fact that these guys have no prepared responses to these questions has some larger implications. It is important the keep in mind that the same people bankrolling Shapiro and Kirk and all the rest are also bankrolling versions of these guys on the Left. Both sides of the Progressive morality play are financed by the same amorphous donor class that also underwrites the Imperial Capital. These morality plays are always the product of the Cloud People to control the Dirt People.
This stuff suggests the divide between the Cloud People and Dirt People has grown to a point where neither side really understands the other. The people behind these shows have no idea what’s going on among the hoi polloi. Similarly, the rabble is baffled as to why these people don’t address the questions being raised. Much of the success of this rebellion is due to the groypers assuming their targets were smart and prepared, so they prepared great questions and great logistics.
One thing that is true about revolutions, at least in the West, is that long before the crisis in the streets, there is a quiet divorce between the people and their rulers. The people in charge stop knowing or even respecting the people over whom they rule, while the people lose their connection to their rulers. It is this connection, this set of reciprocal obligations rooted in blood and history that sees a people and their rulers through crisis. Once it is gone, the next crisis becomes a revolution.
When even a guy, who is desperately trying to be the voice of the Dirt People inside the Imperial Capital, is all thumbs on the youth revolt, it says they are flying blind. Gaetz posted his support for the Cloud and hour later he is rushing to qualify that tweet, because his staff noticed the reaction. When the Tribune of the Dirt People instinctively sides with the Cloud People, the gap between us them and them has probably reached a point where it can never be bridged. What comes next is inevitable.
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4CHAN: *Invent parody meme of “OK” sign as hate symbol*
ADL: “It’s teh real McCoy!”
Wapo: *parrot ADL uncritically*
4CHAN (and, to be fair, the sane portion of the world) *laughs at ADL, Wapo and “OK is hate symbol”*)
ADL: “No, it’s a really, real hate symbol now!”
Wapo: *parrot ADL uncritically*
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/09/26/okay-hand-sign-has-moved-trolling-campaign-real-hate-symbol-civil-rights-group-says/
“For sites like this to exist, it requires people like you chipping in a few bucks a month……”
No it doesn’t, that’s BULLSHIT, you panhandling PAYtriot.
Show us how it’s done. I look forward to failing to subscribe to your newsletter.
Did anyone go beyond reading the clickbait blog post, and actually watch the linked video? I did, and no one got “booed off the stage”. There was one woke type, and a bunch of rude noisemakers, but not even organized heckling. Don Jr. and whasername effectively talked over the top of them, which is about all you can do (absent bouncers with whips).
OK, cuck.
I’m not really a leader or deep thinker but I play one on TV. These actors are being found out to be the Kardashian influencers they think they are. At least by the few that care about these things. Are these the tryouts for dissident leadership? Challenge these idiots and they cry foul. There is no crying in dissident realism. Just like there is no crying in business or baseball. I am sick of these people.
That’s the same reaction the left betrays. Especially on campus, but even beyond there. When Bill Clinton goes in network TV for an interview, he’s supposed to be asked questions like, “Are you disappointed that you weren’t able to enact all your policies during your terms?” When he goes on Fox and Mr. Wallace asks him a questions he doesn’t like, he throws a tantrum. That’s why Dems rarely go on Fox. It’s not fixed. That the mainstream Repubs are no different shows it makes no difference which party is power, practically speaking. The political class is one amorphous blob… Read more »
… and this link to an article about the hens of The View having meltdowns when Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump Jr were recently guests brings it home.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gabbard-and-trump-jr-change-americas-view-view
These people are weak. They are vulnerable. The political parties, however, don’t allow the weakness to be exploited.
Expect new parties to emerge in the next 4-8 years. Whether they’ll be any better than the two existing parties is anyone’s guess.
I haven’t seen anything like the bi-partisan attacks and the media blackout on TG in my life. I don’t know if there will be new parties, or just the same old parties re-branded and repackaged.
Either way, the fact that these guys have no prepared responses to these questions has some larger implications. Their problem is that they are speaking out of both sides of their mouths. One side is speaking to the marks, another side to their sponsors: if it was only the marks, they could just lie: “sure, we need to stop sending Israel all that cash” – it’d be a free round; it’s not like Shapiro or Crenshaw are in any position to change policy, so why not say whatever the suckers want to hear? But their sponsors would never allow such… Read more »
Similarly, the rabble is baffled as to why these people don’t address the questions being raised.
I’ve read several comments on Scandi kosher-right websites from people confusedly asking why they’d never heard about Greg Johnson or Scandza until Johnson was arrested, and why did they have to read about him in the MSM rather on their favourite dis-right website.
But I’ve also noticed that more and more people are getting wise to being gatekept, I’ve even seen Zman referenced in the MSM comment sections.
My eyes don’t lie. The Kirk guy lost me with “our values” = Rainbow F(l)ags. Here’s what my eyes also see: 1. My NYC suburb town is filled with illegals; they line the streets in the mornings 7 days a week to be picked up by law breakers for undocumented labor; said town is a place no one that speaks English goes into any more – they eyeball US like THEY own the place; apparently they do. It is a “sanctuary” town by decree of the mayor and the slum lords that support him. 2. There is a two tiered… Read more »
Is it not white business people who hire these illegals, though? And white people who pay these business people for a contract? Look, I know illegals are bad. But if I see a guy called Enrico Gonzalez Martinez, he ain’t getting my business. If I hire a white contractor and a van full of illegals show up, he ain’t getting my business. It’s really not that hard to probe a company beforehand to see if it’s an alien owned/employing company. I don’t care if it’s more expensive to hire whites. We do need to get illegals out. But the white… Read more »
Why is it when I get a job I got a fill out a million papers proving I’m a citizen and these traitors are able to hire a bunch of illegal aliens?
This is anarcho-tyranny! Every jot and title of the law is ruthlessly applied to us, while they don’t get prosecuted for any violation no matter how flagrant!
Boom. Soccer mom or guy in Audi – TICKET! The old “do you know why I pulled you over…?”
Then insurance UP. Soon enough, credit score DOWN. Meanwhile …..
I talk to LEOs, as mentioned, one is on my property right now. And others. And what is going on in NYC has them sick. Having politicians make them into roadside tax collectors means less law enforcement. Let’s face it, the trend in the USA now is less prosecution. Release felons.
As I type this, a white local police officer, a great young man from my town, is doing my leaves. No snotty virtue signal intended BUT I hired him temporarily, got to know him, has a third child, infant – and I am not firing him as a customer. The guy puts in 150% for the dollar – as in my wife has to STUFF extra money in his hands. Yes, in my area I am acquainted with LOTS of hypocrite white liberals that hire illegals. Only think about the $$$. I have more faith, and pray for the extra… Read more »
Upvoted your comment.
I think Trump, Jr., and Gaetz are going to get the message. Seriously, if they’re anything like me and most other people, we are just now getting woke to it. As to Kim the Floozie Guilfoyle, she’s a slut, having bedded Gavin Newsom, who himself pulled a Barry Switzer by sleeping with his assistant’s wife, but don’t know if he went full on Barry by firing said cuck.
Stand firm.
Things are becoming a little clearer here after watching John Mark’s You Tube this morning, and then reading this article. A few days ago I would be like Gaetz and think Kirk and Shapiro were right as conservatives. So now it is revealed that Kirk and Shapiro want more immigration. That’s a big “huh?” Even a little leaguer like me knows that we need to revert back to 1920 and place a long moratorium on all immigration. Okay, my grandparents got in just before that time, but their kids (my parents, aunts, and uncles) all assimilated. On a side note,… Read more »
And another Operation Wetback and an Indian and Chinese Exclusion act.
But even if we could get Congress to pass such a thing, it only takes one judge somewhere to end it.
Then the Supreme Court.
In the new regime, judges who try to short-circuit national policy through blanket injunctions will be strung up.
I have my grandfather’s papers from Ellis Island. He certified – and it was fact:
1. He could speak English.
2. Had a job waiting.
3. Was coming to live with a family member that had a household and job.
What year did he come? Where did he come from?
I can’t think of a better analogy to who these people are than Milli Vanilli. When the music goes into a loop, they don’t know what do do. You have to think that every day thousands of Republicans are coming how from work with Shapiro on, having beaten their brains in on some 12 hour shift, having been denied a raise, or given a raise that’s literally a 20 cents or something, and listening to Shapiro crow platitudes about Capitalism and the “free market” and how we’ve always been welcoming to immigrants, etc. It has to ring completely hollow. It… Read more »
The dirt people are starting to notice somewhat what has happened to them but 100 years ago the voice of the dirt people would not just be ignored so easily because many of the dirt people were engaged. But much like a dirt Farmer 75 years ago who had to fix his own tractor and everything else. His son still fixed some of that tractor 30 years ago. Now his grandson doesn’t know anything about The tractor and working with his hands or fixing much of anything, the John Deere dealership does that. One of our priorities should be engaging… Read more »
It’s an ungrounded, debt based consumer economy that produces these people. If we had to go back to producing these things would be rediscovered. Our economy is so distorted by funny money that industry is hollowed out. We’re in the tail end of all this however.
Reading the replies to the Gaetz tweet, “America Last” policies seems like great rhetoric.
Great Links! I don’t enjoy listening to people talk so I rarely get to see these things but I do enjoy seeing my enemies in pain so I really appreciate all of these.
Speaking of which, after the Revolution, the first thing we should do is cut out their tongues.
Messy, expensive, and too much trouble. Rope.
Oh, come on, a pair of pliers and a knife are cheap. Messy is a feature, not a bug.
Before obviously. That way we don’t have to listen to any more of their lies while we’re stringing them up
A serviceman who took the job of hanging certain Germans after the war said that even hanging those people became unsatisfying after a time. 90% of the worst cloud people will be cured of their demons by being put to work a few years for ten hours a day six days a week in meat processing, and living on the wages that they have evolved for that work doing the jobs Americans won’t do.
Jabba the Hut treatment–combines best of rope with best of tongue.
I had an interesting theory the other day based on Jewish policy in Medieval Europe, the book by Bernard Baruch. I was reading one of the writers at Occidental observer, and he remarked how some famous Jewish historian, when challenged why he didn’t elaborate on Jewish history, the historian replied “Because the Jews have a martyrology not history.” The choice of words, martyrology, rather than victimokogy, sort of struck me and made me think of the Baruch book. One of the surprising elements that Baruch brings up is that it appears that Judaism in the early medieval period was actually… Read more »
The tragedy of the jews is that they are a parasitical people. Wherever it is they migrated from (deep in the Arabian Desert or from the nomadic tribes of North Africa – lots of Berbers were Jews) once they arrived in the Levant they found themselves surrounded by civilizations who were far superior and far more powerful than they were. It is at this point that they began imitating, assimilating, infiltrating and undermining their betters. Jewish culture as described in the Torah is probably some mixture of Assyrian, Babylonian and Persian. Whatever they adopted from others they were always sure… Read more »
It’s hard to dispute that Christianity’s mythology renders it uniquely vulnerable to appeals to victimhood, oppression, guilt and shaming tactics. I’d call it an exploit rather than an imitative strategy. Christ’s sacrifice seems more a resonant echo of Abraham & Isaac or the OT martyrs like Matthias & his sons. Islam obviously has a deep-seated tradition of martyrdom as well. I think Baruch’s reversing cause & effect but I have no doubt that medieval Jews were well aware of what Catholics’ weak spots were.
The Baruch book clarified something for me. It never made any sense to put high barriers to entry if Judaism is simply a religion and it never made sense to make exceptions if it is an ethnicity. It was a weird compromise, probably in the face of reality during the middle ages. Once the Catholics got the upper in hand in the fight for Europe, Jews had no choice but to shut down the proselyting. Instead, the focus would have to shift to preserving their numbers, by building group solidarity. As far as shared suffering, I think every identity group… Read more »
At no point was the Church threatened demographically by Jews, or Jewish converts. There was never a threat that Jews would gain the upper hand.
Where are you guys getting this nonsense about Jewish ingrouping getting started in the Middle Ages?
Jewish mythologizing about blood relations and lineal descent goes back as far as we have any evidence of them as a distinct people. Jewish ethnocentrism is baked into the cake from the get go!
Read the Old Testament and inform yourselves.
Maybe try reading the post, rather than just the comments.
I have to add that I had this insight on Patmos island while visiting the Apocalypse cave, so the probability that it was divine inspiration is very high!
No. Jews have been mythologizing their own suffering for thousands of years. It didn’t just start in the Middle Ages. Read the whole Bible and that point becomes clear.
That is definitely true to some degree, and certainly ethnocentrism is baked into the cake, as shown in the stories of Joseph, esau and Jacob, and Esther, and no doubt that’s why those tendencies won out on the long run. Victimization and righteous resentment against surrounding tribes too, but I would argue that in the Old Testament Jews often gave as good as they got, as for example when Joshua entered the promised land every man woman and child of the canaanites was exterminated. It could be definitely contextualized in terms of suffering, but you could also read it as… Read more »
It took me awhile to get the Shapiro scam because I thought he could be a good gateway to our side. But he has placed all things white outside the walls of acceptable debate so he can bask on his lucrative perch at the conservative end of progressivism. And why should he care about the browning of America when he can always flee to Israel where his true loyalties lie. Judaism is the most exclusive and white religion on the planet. Sammy Davis Jr. is the last black jew I can remember.
I am puzzled, if that is indeed his thought process. If America falls to the brown hordes Israel will not be far behind – unless they can replace America with another patron state. Pickings will be slim to none. The big picture is changing rapidly now. The gatekeepers can obviously no longer do their jobs. Ben and his girlfriends were still of some use – because they could still sell copy. The day looms when he and his ilk can’t even do that. Ben who…? Normie doesn’t care what Benny thinks, or Matt Walsh, or the other meat puppets of… Read more »
” If America falls to the brown hordes Israel will not be far behind – unless they can replace America with another patron state.” That’s how it seems to me as well, but then again, I’m not a psychopath (nor are you, I suspect) and they don’t think like us. I am increasingly of the opinion that the destructive behavior is completely *not* predicated on logic and reason. I know I go on about the resentment thing, but still there it is. I see two key factors behind the seemingly insane behavior. 1. Genuine malice and spite, born of resentment,… Read more »
Israel is a thorn in the sock for many American Jews, who would see its demise as not a bad thing at all.
The “Samson Option” is their ultimate whip-hand. Instead of having a frank and open discussion about US-Israeli relations since 1948, they go all Soviet and shut the discussion down. Not good optics.
Hmmmmmm. Being a Yesterday Man, and living under a rock as I do – I had no idea with a Groyper is. I have to research these things as I am getting old an irrelevant the way old men do. It was tough – prying the info out of Google was like pulling teeth. 🙂 Then I caught a break – our good friends at Slate have the low down skinny on you eeeeeevil far right trolls: https://slate.com/comments/technology/2017/12/groyper-the-far-right-s-new-meme-is-a-more-racist-version-of-pepe-the-frog.html As with all such things – the story is, as always – in the comments. Not only is Conservative Inc. over, and… Read more »
Independent “journalism” died when the multinational corporations started buying up media outlets back in the 80s/90s. Since then it’s all been heavily curated. Babies in incubators tossed on the floor? War! (Be sure to buy stock in the MIC companies. )
Following up on the influence of the Church. Their influence on Western Society runs deep.
Here is an interesting explaination why Western Europeans are different. I am surprised it got published
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/11/how-early-christian-church-gave-birth-today-s-weird-europeans
Puts me in mind of HBDchick’s Hajnal line work: https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/
I’ve been buried at work and have missed the Groyper thing. In a numerical sense, does anyone have a feel for whether the Groypers are 5% of the population in these rooms, or are they a more substantial portion of the population?
On Twitter, it seems like it’s 99 percent, judging from the replies. In real life, 1 percent. But it’s a start.
Judeo-Christian
A deeply corrupt term, either a tautology or an oxymoron: either the Jewish legacy texts are implied in definition of Christianity, hence making the Judeo-prefix superfluous, or Christianity is, in its conception, an abnegation of Jewry.
If people start with it, ask them what a “Jew-Christian” is and if they’ve ever met one, or if there’s such a thing as Judaeo-Islam.
“If people start with it, ask them what a ‘Jew-Christian’ is and if they’ve ever met one…”
Jews for Jesus, lol. They were all over campus in the early 70’s.
https://jewsforjesus.org
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus
I don’t know the answer, public K-12 (early seventies) and I had never heard of “Judeo-Christianity,” and then a Jewish professor in college seemingly friendly to me said, “If I weren’t a Jew I would be a Catholic.” “The three most influential men in western civilization were Christ, Constantine, and Charlemagne.” “Jews represent the worst and the best in humanity.” I read this site because it does two things: It reminds me of how poorly educated I am. It makes me think and do research. The newest thing I’ve been introduced to is “The Abrahamic religions.” I don’t want anything… Read more »
We’re all poorly educated when it comes to the amount of information available, compounded by our “everyday living” obligations to family, neighbors, employers, etc. Don’t ever apologize for not knowing something you were never taught.
Thanks, but I am just stating a sad fact. I want to know more but I really should be spending time planning which state to move to so I can go on living.
I wasn’t saying it for votes. Just a fact. FWIW, Join a club. It seems awkward, but on the outskirts of your town do they not have signs for Rotary/Kiwanis/Elks/Moose/Grange/VFW? etc? Start with a club that already has a physical footprint. Volunteer to help the elderly members. Assess what they would need to grow. Bring others in. I bet there’re dozens if not hundreds of people around you looking for the same community you are.
A while ago I ran a google ngram on the term resulting in a classic “hockey stick” graph with the phrase baseline until the mid-1950s. Of course using the alternate spelling “Judaeo Christian” there’s a brief 19c spike, a brief early 20c spike but the overall trend is the same. A term that entered the lexicon in the 50s and hasn’t quit since.
I’m surprised it’s that old. I only started noticing it in the noughties.
I flatter myself that I can take credit for the term falling out of use overnight in kosher Danish alt-media by simply translating it from Latin to Danish. “Jew-Christian” – jødekristen – sounds absolutely preposterous in Danish, and when I suggested Judaeo-Islam and Zoroastro-Judaism, I was rewarded with much oy gevalt. 2-3 trolls was all it took.
That’s partially explained by the conversion of print-media to the internet. And what was lost during the wars.
The 1950’s, right about the time of the beginning of the mainline Protestant bust-out, into what has become the progressive SJW version of Protestantism. Hmm…
It’s a function of the vomiting of the State of Israel on the people of Palestine.
What comes next is desirable perhaps, but by no means inevitable. It requires organization, funds, action and success. Just to name 2 nations who were exactly as you describe and what followed was….the people being crushed over and over again; Russia and Ireland. It would be difficult to have peoples more alienated from whom they ruled…and yet the Evil Repressor remained in power for centuries until the Evil Repressor lost their stomach to repress. So that’s all very romantic and all, but I’m not from the Romantic Irish. For more contemporary examples we can look at most of the Arab… Read more »
And try not to think about the native Americans or that their evil oppressor has turned its eye upon you.
Your argument and your first two examples leaves out the fact that external pressure is always required. Who is going to help you against “your” government?
The central principle of resistance is always: raise the costs of their occupation. Raise the costs.
This is Creeds v.s. Credentials. The Cloud people have the creds – typically the meaningless degrees that they too get 6 figures of debt but are overpaid in the cloud. It has to be valuable, I paid $100k for it! And they let in a mix so they can be diverse and multicultural, but cherry pick. The Creeds are the beliefs and common sense of the dirt people. That we aren’t practically equal, just equal in that we are not gods. Trump’s creds are from the Wharton School of business, and just lots of success. They don’t count. I like… Read more »
With ¡Jeb! as the The Cowardly Lion.
Surely It’s ¿Jeb?
Pool and Michael Tracy are learning on the job in real-time. It’s very interesting watching them grapple with their own awakenings, coming from the salvageable left side of the divide.
Sounds like Conservative Inc. is done. And modern liberalism is done.
We have a power vacuum forming. This is going to get interesting sooner rather than later.
It’s the decline of white voters. While whites were a super-majority, the contradictions and lies of the Uni-Party could hold. The Left could trash on Bad Whites and push immigration because Jews and Good Whites still ran the party and could keep the socialists and “hate all whites” minorities under control. The Right could demonize identity politics and still manage to win elections. Today, the Jews and Good Whites on the Left are struggling to control the mercenaries that they imported. Meanwhile, the failure of Conservative Inc is becoming more and more apparent as state after state turns blue due… Read more »
I wonder the same, Citizen. An “its okay to be white” sticker lasts maybe a couple of days around these parts. Often acquiring the implied answer by sharpie within hours (its NOT). So how long before the openly anti-white animus jumps the shark? At what point does white identity avoidance finally grow a spine to even give form to it being merely “okay”? And will that be enough to turn the tables back, from ‘you didnt build that’ to some measure of legitimacy of history and culture? Perhaps the meme war should consider an ‘agree and amplify’ approach and just… Read more »
Jonathan Bowden, an erratic treasure, is very good on the psychology of whites with relation to demographics. His thoughts are similar to Citizen’s. Long quote: “Many of the reasons our people do not seem to have a sense of solidarity amongst themselves in relation to the degree that some other groups could be said to have, is because a significant number of them have never been kicked, have never felt like what it is as a group to be disprivileged in a society. “Unfortunately, in certain areas of British and Continental life now and North American life, that process for… Read more »
The Zman has to get on the board with some books of his own. Even just collections of non-dated posts would be welcome.
In fact, The Dirt People Versus the Cloud People would make a good title. Other suggestions:
This Will Not End Well
Hurled into the Void
The Demographic Age
Our Thing
If Mr Smith is English you owe him an apology for disfiguring his language,
No, I don’t. I don’t apologize for how I choose to do things in my own country.
ZED vs. ZEE
… go home, foreign devil. When I want to hear what a Canadian has to say about how I pronounce anything, I’ll create a bait trail of maple syrup for you.
Sperg,
“We’re Not Voting Our Way Out of This”
Though the Demographic Age is probably the most on point.
I want swag. That Z logo would look good on hoodie. I could see that becoming as offensive and edgy as those hatey “It’s okay to be white” stickers. 🙂
And I would take this opportunity as a Canadian to correct our blog host and his readers: he is the “ZED man”… NOT the ‘ZEE Man’. Say it right, damn you all….
Southerners have long memories of what conquest and cultural dispossession mean. Read chapter 37 of Gone With the Wind. It is an excellent and highly accurate description of what is heading our way yet again…for ALL whites.
It is an excellent and highly accurate description of what is heading our way yet again…for ALL whites.
True, but “convincing” ALL Whites of it is a fool’s errand. To borrow from Nikita Khrushchev : “White people will sell us the rope with which to hang themselves.”
What is coming is inevitable. In the end one will become an underground so-called “White Supremacist” – or simply cease to exist.
Carl, I think you are correct. We are living, breathing examples of people living in times of imminent turmoil, trying to make good decisions in the face of many kinds of invisible uncertainty. The decisions we make now will set the stage for who we are in the future. Not making a decision is also a decision of sorts. The old noir movies and literature used to toy with the interplay of personal decisions and the unseen hand of fate. Here we are, enmeshed in such a situation.
As whites decline out of the demographic majority, to be replaced by a polyglot population rather than by any single new majority, perhaps it is time to think hard and try to recall any nation that has survived very long or very well without an identifiable demographic majority. I can think of a few places and times, but I wouldn’t want to live there.
California, Texas and New Mexico are the counter-examples. They show that whites are fairly content to fall into minority status so long as things function reasonably well.
I hope whites around the country wake sooner that whites in Texas, California and New Mexico.
Things are not working as well here in California as they used to, not even close. I suspect that without the Federal teat, the downward spiral would have been quicker and deeper. Of course, an independent CA would have probably simply signed on as a client state for China, as so many of the African nations have done. An empire of fire to go with China’s empire of dust.
A couple of years? It is obvious that when your country or party becomes too vibrant and diverse, it goes eventually goes to war with itself. If I had to predict the future right now, I would see the US dividing into smaller countries of the shithole/non-shithole varieties that reflect race realities.
The other possibility is the rise of a strong man that ruthlessly crushes his competitors and forces the remainder to submit. There is no shortage of murderous, violent nutters out there but I have not seen any with the brains required to do so.
Door #1, let us hope. The Founders revered Montesquieu above others in finding instruction to create their product. But they had to answer for his maxim that one thing that a successful republic could not be was large. The arrangement they made to answer this worked only until the unwritten Constitutional amendment of 1865. But with the states themselves now but reflections of the Borg, so door #1 would today have to award a great deal of sovereignty to counties, as do the Swiss, and an end to popular democracy. This could all be relatively humane and civil, relative to… Read more »
Good essay, something that your buddies at the Menken conference couldn’t write.
You know, soon you won’t have many twitter or youtube links to provide. As we can see our overseers are pathetic at defending themselves, so new guidelines on these platforms are coming. Has anyone heard of the latest from youtube? If you are not even considered viable they will axe you at youtube.
I have some incite as what is going on with YouTube. From what I have been told by someone with some understanding of the situation, Google is desperate to stem the losses. YouTube is a money furnace for them. Costs are rising quickly. The Google streaming service is one effort to bring in revenue, but Google was late to the party and they have no content of their own. Placing ads on user created content has not turned out to be a boon, as advertiser don’t want to be associated with risky content. As much as our side wants to… Read more »
Ditto Twitter who would probably be perfectly happy to just have nothing but empty-headed Celebrity Stalkers on their platform to funnel advertising to.
I agree that it is mostly economics. Hey, for many it’s been a fun cheap ride but as long as one can pay for hosting etc, that is the way it usually is. Their sandbox I suppose.
Of course let’s see if those that pay and play by the rules last long before they are deplatformed, which I believe will happen.
It will be interesting to watch, as taking the cancel culture into the broader market comes with many more problems. Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc can absorb the cost of wokeness for now. The stealing of domain names, however, has come to halt as soon as registrars saw an economic opportunity. Telling the new streaming services they have to go out of business for the good of the team is going to be tough.
The predicament Shapiro has is that he flirted with immigration restrictionism in 2013-15 after being an Emma Lazarus type the decade before. Then when Trump championed the issue & it looked like restrictionism might actually be implemented, he switched back to Magic Dirt theory.
It’s almost as though his restrictionist phase was just a useful pose within the drama of being Controlled Opposition.
Groyper über alles!
Shapiro delenda est
Thirty-seven year-old Matt Gaetz still has his baby teeth. But he also has time to mature. At some point he will either join our side, or he will remain a sycophant.
The inability of Charlie’s Wandering Minstrel Show to develop talking points & curate its audience in response to the Groypers shows us where an exhaust port on the Death Star of David lies. They’re reaching the “word vs. world” threshold. The evidence has piled up higher and deeper than their bullsh*t. Lip-syncing is a perfect analogy. The Phil Spectors running today’s Con, Inc. hype machine aren’t stupid, but the Wailing Wall of Sound can only do so much to spice up their formulaic lyrics and inbred talent pool. Shilly Vanilli & the New Yids on the Block aren’t even a… Read more »
What I find most remarkable about this is that someone thought hiring Kirk and Shapiro was a good idea. Who are the casting directors for this show? Kirk looks like he should be strumming a banjo on a porch in Appalachia. Shapiro is like some angry meth-taking hobbit. It had to be obvious that none of these characters can handle themselves off-script. Conservative Inc. is not hiring from the A-list anymore.
Shapiro is like some angry meth-taking hobbit.
The Orthodox Oompa-Loompa, as Devon Tracey calls him.
In my experience, Appalachians are among the best people I have had the pleasure of knowing. Salt of the earth. I neither could nor would ever wish for better comrades. Char-lay is “Kennedy-class” IYKWIM.
It was a Deliverance reference.
I know. One of the most disturbing movies ever. Char-lay would have to improve a great deal if he were to be counted an honorary Appalachian. And I very much doubt he could have ever mastered the Banjo. I’ll take the kid on the porch over Char-lay. Every. Single. Time. That’s just me. Hating on the Grifters.
LOL, when you’re in the mood you guys can do the “jerkboy right” thing better than the TRS guys.
You could say the same about almost every politician in the country. Clearly there is a skill set of scripted public speaking ability combined with narcissism and sociopathy these people possess that is harder to pull off than it looks.
I’m hoping this is their A-list. Look at the feebs populating the Trump Admin. They’re forced to drag their 1980’s All-Star Team out of retirement whenever any heavy lifting needs done. Elliot Abrams is practically as old as his namesake & he utterly failed with Venezuela.
Contra Mike Enoch, I think Trump’s the last GOP POTUS even if he manages to squeak by next year. The GOP side of the sandwich is too moldy. Soon, even the dogs won’t eat it.
There will always be a GOP, but it will just move much more leftward. When we are all in Globohomo re-education camps, we can still vote for the GOP to lower the capital gains tax.
Can’t look at Kirk without thinking of Devo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b-nFSUXcuM
The Cloud People may not understand the Dirt People, but they certainly understand the biggest danger to their control of the Dirt People: Whites identifying as a people.
Everything on the Left and Right is geared toward stopping this. The Left preaches guilt and shame so that whites don’t want to identify as a people while Conservative Inc. preaches that any form of ethnic identity (save one) is wrong. This is no accident and shows that while the ((Cloud People)) may not understand us, they are most definitely thinking about us.
If they (Cloud People) can only keep a lid on white identity just a little longer….let demographic change do its thing….they’re almost there…D’oh!…the Dirt People are stirring, waking up. This isn’t good for the Cloud People.
I’d argue that the demographic battle is over. Look at births. That’s what makes this so scary. This is the transition phase as whites realize what happened and non-whites realize that they have the numbers politically.
Regardless, both sides – race-aware whites and non-whites – will hate the Cloud People. Whites will realize what they’ve done to us. Non-whites will hate them because Cloud People are white in their eyes and won’t let go of power. The Cloud People have no home. (Well, some of the ((Cloud People)) will have a homeland but no home in America.)
The demographic battle is absolutely over.
It’s clear that white people do not have a future in official politics, except perhaps as friendly figureheads. The future is, as Z-man has said, quiet, local dissident communities. Look at how Muslims are – until recently almost no political control – but strong communities and steadily growing their numbers.
As the system becomes more anti-white male, we need to offer alternatives to them that are more attractive than “mainstream society”. Muslims feel safe in the Masjid and prefer that to the outside world… we need to do the same with our D-right communities.
Population of China: 1 billion + Population of India: 1.3 billion and rising White Americans within childbearing age: 40 million? If every White American had 10 children for the next 10 generations, maybe we’d catch up. Certainly, having more children is good as it increases our numbers and helps fix our age pyramid. But it’s hard to see it having much effect against mass Asian immigration. As to your Muslim comment: Muslims haven’t eradicated anybody in the modern West yet either. Also, I’m not sure where you get the idea that whites just leave other people alone. Take a read… Read more »
Yes, I conveniently left out our transgressions against native Americans, and other sins. I do not know why you count the Chinese and Indian populations when I am only interested in procreating another white majority within the USA. Yeah, I miss a lot of things and discover more about my own ignorance each time I come here, read, comment, and reply. Sad — and it pisses me off, but there are those who self-learned or had a good early life education, versus those who just coasted on the coat tails of American affluence, and who now struggle to deal with… Read more »
I’ll pick your comment to reply to.
Is a demographic battle over if whites start to have more children?
Z Man’s future of being low key (?) dissident sounds fine, but I think we’ll be eradicated because unlike Muslims, we whites leave minorities alone and don’t genocide them. We being the minority will not necessarily be afforded that courtesy. Just asking here.
Indeed. They built their homes upon the liquifaction sands of The United Economies of (Proposition) America. Which is why the ponzi must go on. Most will indeed one day fall from fiat grace to wallow in the mud of reality, but many will reach Elysium. My goodwhite friends all have a kind of thousand yard stare of aspirational economic and social status. Their anxiety is thinly veiled by their constant signaling of their goodness; their grip loosening with each rung of the ladder. The college bubble is just one area in which they scrum against a force of their own… Read more »
Since becoming a “battle hardened” D-righter, I love seeing these soft white kids… they are prime meat to tear into and gain things from. Probably exactly how non-whites feel, too.
There was a link going around about Amish and Mormon birth rates. It’s all going to take till after 2100, but by then the entirety of Ohio will be Amish. The amish boil off will have to be cultivated into our thing. Plus, globohomo will doubtlessly hate them. It’s a white pill nonetheless.
Can the Amish out-breed Africa when there is no one shipping in millions of Africans from Africa? Doesn’t matter.
Can the Amish out-breed Africans already here once the freebies dry up and they have to feed, house, and clothe themselves? And keep themselves warm in the winter without free heat? Probably.
Without the welfare state blacks will die off in short order here in the U.S. As most are incapable of working or holding down even the most menial of jobs.
On top of that they don’t play well with others. Mexicans hate them and so do most whites and for good reason.
The Amish are a minuscule minority right now.
If Globohomo decided they were a problem, they could easily be dealt with. They believe in absolute non-violence, even in self defence. That’s why they fled Germany – the USA provided a place where they could practice their religion in peace.
The Amish are already threatened by urban sprawl and zoning laws. The Empire could cancel their home schooling. Etc. The only reason they get by is because their numbers are so small and insignificant. Many don’t even vote.
Not sure the Amish can out breed Africa.
Speaking of disconnection, does anyone else look at the so-called “mainstream” media, with its glistening sets, total disconnection from regular life, and parade of degenerate freaks, and think of the Hunger Games movies?
I have this theory that Globohomo has disappeared The Hunger Games from the political conversation (unlike Harry Potter, which is ironically taken from an old-fashioned all-white milieu, LOL) because Globohomo realized that they were just like the bad guys in the Hunger Games.
I made that HG/Corporate Media connection years ago. The “Caesar Flickerman” character was spot-on.
I, too, have noticed that The Hunger Games has been sent to Davy Jones’ locker. Would have loved to have been the fly on the wall as the cloudies watched it and went, “hey, wait, what?”.
The Hunger Games is a good but imperfect analogy for the current system. What we have is Socialism for the very rich and the very poor and dog-eat-dog, Hunger Games style capitalism for the working and middle classes.
There is an army waiting IF the button is pushed. The Setup; Evil Moneylenders with long sideburns and long noses betray nation to invasion of swarthy orcs, so said evil moneylenders can get their hands on the very fair white maidens. Two goodhearted comical bumblers activate the Army and save the fair land.
https://youtu.be/Q8cH02wQuoQ
The Button is a challenge to Constitutional, legitimate government.
The exact mistake our enemies are making.
Even Laurel and Hardy figured this out.
This actually happened during Reconstruction. And the explosive reaction was predictable and inspiring.
I don’t know why youtube hasn’t banned babes in toyland yet. A 17 year old would pick up the undertones, rather overtones.
Kirk, Shapiro, Owens, et. al.,, for all their warts, deficiencies and flaws are the ONLY folks that have taken the effort to walk and speak in hostile territory and raise issues anathema to the leftist nazis that ARE academica, the media and the demokrat party. They probably reach more young people – and maybe not so young – through their talks and social media sites than websites such as Zman’s . If one looks at the history of successful (not necessarily “good” ) social/political movements, you will find that their advancement took place in fits and starts, oft times seeming… Read more »
You are the guy ZMan is trying to get through to. So far, failing.
The whole point is that Con, Inc. is designed to fail. It’s not “less than perfect,” it’s not innocently mistaken or poorly led. It’s fake. it’s a trap, a hill designed for you to die on.
We cover what should be done almost every day here. Check the past posts and pods. It’s time better spent than white-knighting for fifth column fakes who’ve turned your Constitution into a declaration of preemptive eternal surrender.
The problem is when they morph from gateways into gatekeepers, and cast our side into the darkness of unacceptability. Everyone must then play on the field of progressivism, as we continue to vote for Conservatism Inc. but never truly get anywhere. But maybe the next election will lead us to the promise land.
IMHO, real progress would be having a govt. that actually adheres to the letter and spirit of the US Constitution .
Which can only come about when you have a majority white population who wants that…
The Constitution was dead before most of “The Founders”.
Where is the authority for Washington to use an army to enforce a Whisky Tax?
Where is the authority for Jefferson to buy Louisiana?
Un-possible. The Constitution effectively was replaced by The Poem on the Statue. Ask yourself which will bring you more grief: criticizing the Constitution or the Poem?
Considering that most white liberals do not want that, the math just doesn’t work anymore.
At the recent TPUSA event at UCLA where the booing occurred, Don Trump Jr. really looked spooked. His girlfriend, Kim Guilfoyle probably doesn’t have much understanding of what this is all about. She’s been Cloud People for a long time. Matt Gaetz, one of the better guys in DC, seemed like he’s trying to plug holes in the dyke.. As much as they’ve been trying to usher in a new age where race doesn’t matter, this is another example that the ancient gravity of blood and ethnicity isn’t going away.
Junior’s bitch GF implied the groypers were a bunch of incels who relied in online dating.
The fact this homewrecker thinks online dating is still outside the mainstream and the fact she ran to the can’t get get laid meme is astonishing.
Oh yeah. She is a senior advisor to Trump Sr. Too.
Beyond parody.
Same at the OSU Kirk event. Gay Negro said: “Gay people *absolutely* have a place in the conservative movement” Then Gay Negro said: “Your obsession with gay sex is weird. If you want it, I’m sure you can find it somewhere.” Very snarky, rude and insulting towards the audience. Being gay is good… but also an insult? Bimbo’s comments were a classic example of trying to insult only your enemies but ending up insulting the entire room. Let’s be honest, a room full of young guys who have never used Tinder? And who aren’t insecure about not getting laid enough?… Read more »
I’m not shedding any tears over what Gavin Newsom’s well-used body pillow has to say about us.
I’m more concerned about Trump’s most senior advisor, Kushner the Elder.
Gilfoyle is a Newsom leftover.
Does anyone know if Don Jr was there to feel things out or whether Charlie let him step into it?
He (Jr.) was there to flog his book. He just got caught in the crossfire. Of course showing up with the hoochie you left your wife and five kids for probably doesn’t endear him to the RC wing of the Groypers.
Hopefully he reports back that orc reachout is bad politics.
And it all comes back to the same question:
” Why are (((these people))) allowed in white men’s countries?”
Very true, but that’s the “final level boss” of questions. One has to go through a progression of other questions to reach the JQ.
I give our young Castizo overlord credit for knowing this and acting as such.