One of the curious things about conservatism, as in Buckley-style conservatism, is that it never examined its failures. Even today, when asked about why they were unable to muster a defense against the homosexualization of the culture, a guy like Charlie Kirk is poleaxed by the question. He’s standing in front of a sign that reads “culture war” alongside a homosexual and he is baffled about the question. Even the more thoughtful and honest among conservatives have a huge blind spot for their past.
One reason for this is an assumption by Buckley-style conservatives that the things they oppose cannot “work” and therefore must eventually fail. Socialism, for example, is just assumed to end in failure. That’s why even now, they howl like lunatics about the empty shelves in Venezuela. It is proof that what they fear cannot withstand contact with reality, so they ignore all the other stuff going on in Venezuela. That means they also ignore all of the prosperous countries that make socialism work.
You see that in this Victor David Hanson piece on the 2020 election. He has a section on the troubles in California and mentions the power outages. He asks how it is possible for the tech giants to function in land with power outages. There is that assumption that what should not work will eventually stop working. The massive homeless problem in the state is another example he uses. The assumption is that the open borders, multiracial future is unworkable and must fail.
The trouble with this thinking is that it assumes things about the ruling class that has never been in evidence. That is, they have the same standards for civilization as a conservative like Dr. Hanson. In other words, their definition of what works is the same as his definition of what works. Therefore, unless the rulers wake up to what is happening, the system will collapse. On the other hand, if only someone can get them to see the error of their ways, they will change course to avoid disaster.
Conservatives never stop to think that maybe California is what the ruling class wants for all of North America. After all, the people running those tech giants are living great lives. In fact, they live lives no mortals have experienced in the history of man, so from their perspective, the system works. It’s not just the plutocrats at the top. All the way down the line, the managerial elite is now living as aristocrats. Sure, there is rot down toward the bottom, but that’s true of all ruling elites.
Another thing that conservatives have always gotten wrong is in the same post, where Hanson discusses national character. He laments the radical authoritarianism that is now the campus culture. He wonders what sort of politics that it will produce on the national stage. He wonders how the breakdown of order will alter politics and if this new politics will replace the national character. That is, the cultural revolution from the top will produce a response from the bottom, the victims of this assault.
This fear is rooted in an assumption that has never been true. The United States was never a nation in the tradition sense. It was always a federation of nations. The structure the Founders created was an explicit acknowledgement of it. The regional difference in the colonies at the time of the founding were not superficial. Those regional differences are still with us today, despite the migrant wave unleashed on many parts by the ruling class. America was always a house with many mansions.
Therefore, to speak of national character, other than in the most general terms, is to misunderstand the country and its people. More important, this concept of the national character is one dreamed up by the Right long ago to adjust to the triumph of Norther Progressives over the rest of the nations. It is an entirely fabricated concept with no basis in reality. It’s simply something that worked for the people in charge as a propaganda device. They can easily abandon it for something else.
That’s the thing conservatives have never grasped. For as long as anyone today has been a live there has been a ruling class. They may not have official titles and a formal role in government, but there are people in charge. Like every ruling class, their primary interest is in remaining in charge. When America was 90% white, the national character stuff that resonates with Victor David Hanson was what they used to perpetuate their rule. In other words, that sort of civic nationalism was a big lie.
Now that America is non-white, the people in charge are searching for a new moral construct to control the population. They also seek a rationale for their position as the ruling elite. Without the traditional forms of legitimacy, they have to search in their ideology for a reason to justify their position. As the long reign of Robert Mugabe showed, vengeance for past sins is a powerful tool of control. The national character, if we allow it, will be a blood libel against white people.
Finally, what remains of Buckley-style conservatism, and certainly of its mongrel variant you see from people like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk, is a weird, fatalistic romanticism for a past that never existed. What draws crowds to these people is the hope that they will make it all better and that things will return to normal. That’s what makes this stuff so insidious. It prevents decent people from facing the reality of what’s coming and most important, it prevents them from preparing for it.
There will be no confirmatory collapse of the Progressive order. There will be no sudden realization of their errors and a great retreat from radical multiculturalism. There is no returning to the America of the past, real or imagined. The old white America where civic nationalism was enough to maintain regional cooperation will not work in a land of hostile strangers. In a land of tribes, many hostile and many encouraged to be hostile, something else will be used to maintain control.
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Great essay! I was particularly taken by ‘What draws crowds to these people is the hope that they will make it all better and that things will return to normal.’ Conservative Inc. is in the business of trading ‘hope’ for shekels. The whole Groyper/Nick Fuentes conflict with Conservative Inc. is based upon an intense resistance to any kind of reality-check for Conservative Inc.
We are just beginning to educate. The average Trumpsters still think we can vote our way out. We are not going to be able to vote our way out at the national level, true. But at the local and possibly regional level republicanism will still work. This clown show as we saw yesterday on TV and almost daily now along with uncontrolled immigration will in fact destroy our republic as we know it. However this does not mean we can’t reconstitute a new republic and our people will be hard as nails once we get through this time of radicalism.… Read more »
Not working, don’t know why.
“This Government was made upon the great basis of the sovereignty of the States, the right of each State to regulate its own domestic institutions to suit itself, and that right was conferred with the understanding and expectation that inasmuch as each locality had separate interests, each locality must have different and distinct local and domestic institutions, corresponding to its wants and interests. Our fathers knew when they made the Government, that the laws and institutions which were well adapted to the green mountains of Vermont, were unsuited to the rice plantations of South Carolina. They knew then, as well… Read more »
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You may have some multi-posts queued for me then, I’ve tried 3 or 4 variations of the same post over the last hour+. Will try again in 15 or so.
Looks like one finally stuck – thx.
The spam filter I use does not allow for white listing, as that would racist.
Having read Dr. Hansen’s works for a numbers years, I believe he’s actually correct. America has a national character that is truly unique in the world. Perhaps you’ve been in Lagos for so long you have lost sight of it. Despite being a country of 50 independent states who may be very different from each other, you are all Americans regardless of state, religion or ethnicity. I have spoken with dozens of American service men here in Germany and while it may not be possible for me to tell exactly which state they are from, there is no mistaking they… Read more »
It would be interesting to hear how present-day Germans view 1871. Vis-a-vis local and national identity.
Well, yes, you talked to servicemen. But come to LA and say the same thing and the Guatemalan flag waver will buy you a glass of tequila. They might even ask you to help with voter registration and set you up with a table in front of El Mercado. From here, the national character is beginning to look like the Balkans a few decades ago.
Servicemen are exceptionally inclined and expressly conditioned to identify with the CivNat mythology – a big reason why they are under-represented in the American dissident right. We have some committed civ-nats or guys with strong CN priors around here, too. American identity as such is something that could be developed into a more wholistic identity ala Euro nationalism but that’s going to take time. The struggle to maintain White ethnic identities in the face of the Brown Wave is something that could provide its own foundational mythology and history to forge that identity, but I think we’re going to have… Read more »
There is also such a thing as “CivLib” as far as I am concerned. They, similarly, have a Pollyanna-ish view of how things ought to work, much like the CivNats, but with the globohomo overlay. They are going to be hard to bring over, because part of the pozz is to reject our language and world view, a priori. But unlike the true Proggies, they are well-intentioned though misguided.
Germany, too has historically been a series of quasi-independent nation-states. It is interesting to me that the two people most responsible for trying to turn the country instead into a nation of states as we are (were) here in the U.S., Bismarck and you-know-who, almost always have been vilified in history.
I can’t tell if my non-reply comments are being filtered – on a VPN if that matters. Going to hold off re-posting for awhile to avoid double-or-triple-posting.
Which of these so-called prosperous, so-called socialist countries could “make it work” in the absence of direct and indirect US subsidies?
This was an important read for me. In time, VDH and others will have no choice but to publicly agree with what is being written on this blog. But for the life of me I really need to learn what all of these colored pills mean. I should have been paying closer attention. I thought men preferred the blue pill, the one that puts lead in your pencil. But I was wrong.
Maybe it’s just sarcasm, but for newbies who really don’t know the pill system, here it is:
Bluepill: worldview coming from left-wing propaganda and lies
Redpill: reality, awakening to reality
Blackpill: pessimism, the feeling we’re going to lose
Whitepill: optimism, feeling we’re going to win (or just on a high from good news)
Blue & red pills originally from The Matrix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE7PKRjrid4
Great post by Z. I think normies have a tendency to forget that from the beginning we have been just a federation of nations. Take for example that during the state ratifying conventions some New Englanders and Virginians, among others, feared that a lack of religious (Protestant) qualifications for office under the Constitution would according to Madison open a door for “Jews, Turks, and infidels.” It would be too woke to teach the average elementary school kid today that were it not for the leadership and cache of a man named Washington, who had little formal schooling and never attended… Read more »
One of the milestones I remember on the road between Conservatism and Our Thing was fully accepting, rather than merely understanding, Pareto’s observation that elites are a necessary part of society. Biology and circumstance provide some men not only easier access to power but also more fitness to exercise it. Contra libertarianism, democracy is both impractical and frankly unwanted by the vast majority of people. Judging by voting patterns from Washington’s Farewell Address to today’s Send Them Back Lock Her Up kabuki, at least 2/3 of the population doesn’t want to sustain the kind of civic engagement muh Founders and… Read more »
Testing…
Hanson is a scam artist, nothing more. If he is remembered at all, it will be for a lie: that the Iraq invasion was some sort of apostolic successor to Pericles’s funeral oration. While Hanson did manage to break with his masters over Trump, he is careful never to color too far outside the lines in which he has always worked. But to the Neocons he is and will always be a traitor, a golem gone renegade. His boomer naivety prevents him from seeing this, and his arrogance prevents him from allowing anyone else to point it out to him.
Hanson always screamed out of touch boomer to me. I could never take him seriously.
I still like the guy because he’s a scholar of history. He also does a good job of “man on the ground” reporting from the disaster area that is California. He probably is holding back from saying what he really thinks about the coming collapse.
I’m reading this thread about Hanson and while being respectful of the critical minds opposing him, I tend to agree with what you just wrote. I don’t even know if I should continue to get my formation here or at Hillsdale College online. I have that dilemma. They still stick to THE CONSTITUTION, but this blog seems to tell me that even they will be late comers.
Speaking of Hillsdale, I was dragged to this Larry Arne fundraising event a few years ago. I left feeling very unimpressed. He reminded me of some sanctimonious preacher. Talk about an old coot CivNat boomer. I wasn’t about to open my wallet for him. I think that school is for the CivNat boomers to hide their millennial children instead of sending them to the party schools. You learn way more about life at the party school.
Who would live in Fresno anyway? It’s the arm pit of this state. Put up the For Sale sign.
Nonsense. VDH is an academic par excellent. He need scam no one for a living and made his bones as a renowned war historian long before CA turned brown or most folks were concerned about demographics change.
Really, just because you consider one not red pilled to your liking does not equate to mal-intent, nor does it mean he is not useful to the cause.
We have been a federation of nations and a house with many mansions, because we have had freedom of association, freedom of speech, and the freedom to protect ourselves and our families in any way we see fit. The breakdown of all of that was the key to the destruction of our country. Once one had to look over his shoulder, every time one said something provocative or hung out with someone suspicious, not because you might get punched by the next guy over, but because you could get doxxed or arrested, the game was over. The leveling and atomization… Read more »
And this all started when that federation told 11 of those nations that they couldn’t leave despite the tyrannical and quasi-genocidal ambitions of Northern abolitionists.
Buckley conservatism existed to fight the Cold War, with the cultural stuff as frosting. The Soviet Union dissolved on Christmas Day 1991. Buchanan, Francis, Brimelow and others tried to shift the movement to culture, especially immigration. Buchanan’s Culture Wars speech at the 1992 convention still resonates. They were purged, with the Neocons taking total control. The Iraq War proved an ongoing disaster. The immigrants kept coming. Buckley and others of his generation died. Young whites are persecuted on campus and in the workplace. They don’t like it. They’re smart and uppity. Here we are.
That was a pretty good summation!
Though Kristol, Goldberg, Shapiro, French, etc. are still very much alive. And funded. But I like to think the energy is on our side, not theirs. Our side is reading books and bodybuilding. Their side is watching TV and trawling for shekels.
Our side is also capable of building networks (or communities, I’ve been using that word an awfully lot lately) and cells of like minded people, who are in this for fundamental reasons of kith and kin, not the typical sheckels and feelz that others go for. We need to develop and exploit that. A network of cells of like minded people, gone grey and dispersed, can be a formidable opposition to the stupid stuff going on today, because we are in it for the right reasons, and won’t cut and run as soon as the sheckels and feelz run out.
Yes x10. As important as the internet is to getting the message out, lifestyle commitments run a lot deeper than internet bonding does. Guys who live for this without “e-personas,” “followers,” “likes” or an express paycheck for advocacy are the real strength of any movement, particularly when things get tough. Cortez burned his boats for a reason.
“Millennials’ Health Deteriorating, Projected Mortality Rates Higher Than GenX; “Deaths of Despair” a Major Culprit”
This, after ten years of supposed economic growth. Imagine what it will be like when the next contraction happens, which is half a decade overdue.
We need to be ready to take full of advantage of the narrative collapse that will accompany a recession. This means a 24/7 campaign to meme the blame on our mortal enemies, the usual suspects.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/11/millennials-health-deteriorating-projected-mortality-rates-higher-than-genx-deaths-of-despair-a-major-culprit.html
The “economy” is smoke-and-mirrors BS. Our government incentivizes our young peoples’ dispossession through low-interest loans only available to minorities (including Indians and Chinese) and the OPT program where employers get a multi-year exemptions from payroll taxes.
Waves of suicide always accompany cultural death and proceed a crisis point.
So do waves of murder, every time. Note the recent hullabaloo over the Aztecs sacrificing 84,000 of their own, in the face of Cortez’s conquest. Every time.
I too noticed that the mainline conservatives “never examined its failures”. They never even acknowledge them. They made grifters like Dennis Hastert and Paul Ryan Speaker of the House. After the ensuing spending orgy, failure to pass any legislation remotely “conservative”, and inevitable election losses, they go back to campaigning on stuff like small-government and 2A rights. Then they get testy when people call them con-men and cucks.
It’s all theater.
They weren’t conserving anything. They were ghouls from the Chamber of Commerce with pockets stuffed with money. Don’t forget that drunk Boehner. By the way, I always got a strange vibe from “wrestling coach” Hastert.
Imagine how his teenaged wrestlers felt. Most wrestling coaches participate in the wrestling practice sessions.
The surface of Planet Earth is a cauldron of living things; of which, homo sapiens is the preeminent life form. Within our species, differentiated subgroups evolved and adapted to their unique environments, leading to all the variants we now call race and ethnicity. Then civilization and modernity happened, and people started moving around and away from their place of ancestral adaptation. In the space of a few thousand years, we have tried to force fit people into places they are not well suited to survive in. Conflict is inevitable unless the elites proactively morph the species into insect-like drones. If… Read more »
Brilliant point. There is no going back to a white America. There will be pockets of white zones dispersed throughout the land but the cities are gone forever. They are rapidly declining to 3rd world shithole status and no one gives a damn.
What kept the various nations of the country together over the past was decentralization and respect for states rights. This has been breaking down for many many decades. Obviously the kick-off for that was the aftermath of the Civil War, and it has been escalating rapidly ever since. What Washington D.C. is today is a top-down, one-size fits-all government that no one likes. It fits no one. The only thing holding it all together is that no one has to pay the bills (yet). The debt just shuffles along, despite the covert monetization program going on right now from the… Read more »
You can always look to Toronto see what the elites have in mind:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto-divided-a-tale-of-3-cities/article18151444/
As of 2007, there are now as many low income people in Toronto as there were middle income people in the 1970s. The wealthy WASP/Jewish landowners with property in the city are fabulously wealthy, though.
No mention of immigration, of course, but the poor areas now filled with sri Lankan, bangladeshis, arabs, and negroes used to be completely white working class areas.
Now the idiots in Toronto want to ban guns because their brown pets are starting to get a little shooty.
Regardless of gun laws,the “pets” will always be well armed.
What you say about the hostile ruling class is also very true of VDH. Progressives are never going to recoil in horror at the errors of their ways. And neither is Hanson. He’s actually an old California liberal who woke up one day to see his beloved state taken hostage by people far to his left. But he never made the connection between the flaws of his own beliefs and those of the more radical liberals. Always with Hanson, and I’m going back more than 35 years, there was this arrogance of assumed moral superiority whenever the idea of race… Read more »
VDH still has a Classicist’s romantic view of America as a Greco-Roman Rennaisance. So did the Founders, from our Magic Papers to our art and architecture. Hanson won’t face the cruel fact that sorting our present NuMerican stock for Greco-Roman grade material would require authoritarian extra-Constittutional measures. Balkanization & de facto apartheid are realities he’s never going to be willing to accept.
I think a big part of the problem is that a lot of white people lack the imagination to realize that non-white people don’t necessarily want to live how we want to live. The truth is that I bet a lot of non-white tech oligarchs (insert parentheses and the Indian equivalent of parentheses here) probably like living in gleaming towers that rise above the smoking ruins. They like to see their racial enemies suffer. They like to see people way below them. And it gives them a frisson of excitement to see the Bladerunner-like squalor around them. I suspect that… Read more »
An example of your line of thinking, Sperg, is the big black support for Biden. In their view, Gropin’ Joe will have their backs, more or less, if things get spicy, and why wouldn’t one have his son capitalize on dad’s power base? We think differently, and trying to assume others can easily change their thinking to match up with ours is a fool’s errand.
Blacks see nothing wrong with using your position to enrich yourself and your clan (see every black politician, everywhere, ever). Likewise Pajeets, Juans, Abduls & Changs. God knows Israel has turned out to be just the haven for Jewish criminals that you-know-who warned us about in Minecraft Campfing. We’re the only guys who seem to worry about corruption.
A small aside. Given our corrupt and poz’d educational system, to staple a green card onto any diploma is basically to allow anyone and everyone to come on over and pillage what’s left of the country.
Excellent comment. Sums up what I’ve noticed, too. “Equality” is really only a concept that white people are interested in – and it only works amongst fellow whites.
We’re more comfortable with equality (or a level playing field) because we’re on average confident and positive – look at our track record vs. others, 90%+ of human achievements, etc… It’s hard for Whites to fathom the envy and inferiority complex our achievements stir in Others, particularly when they start puffing on the “colonial oppression or that would be mine” pipe.
Yes, quite honestly just existing around most 3rd worlders stirs anger and their inferiority complex. Especially those well adjusted, confident young white men.
There’s a reason we get fed white guilt.. it’s to make us less competitive and not make them feel bad.
You’re right, normie has no idea how deep this hatred/inferiority complex is and also has no idea how cruel and evil they will be if they ever get the upper hand over us.
One of the worst things we’ve ever done to ourselves (or to Others, FWIW) is to expose them to Hollywood & Madison Ave in their homelands, much less bring them here, FFS. The disparity between our lives and the Third World is like Clarke’s famous quote about how sufficiently advanced tech looks like magic. I see people in LA all the time who obviously see this sprawling hellscape of 10 million+ like a cargo cultist on a dream-quest. I don’t excuse barbaric behavior toward our wahmens, but when you consider the situation of some Arab or Pashtun who grew up… Read more »
From my travels I have only seen two places that care about both the look of their homes AND the welfare of their larger communities: white countries (non-Slav), and Japan and Korea. (China may soon join us.) Every other people (like 5 billion of them) only care about their immediate surroundings + family. We tend to think of Jeff Bezos as a miserly asshole, but he would be like Jesus effing Christ if he lived in India, or Nigeria, or Brazil.
No you’re exactly right. You also just painted a pretty good portrait of metaphysical evil.
Zman’s thought that maybe the people in charge want the California-type problems certainly fits in with the predictions we’ve all heard from those on our side that the US is headed towards becoming Brazil de Norte.
I’ve wondered whether the globalists envision a Middle East model of governance for Europe and North America. Both the Israelis and Arab strongmen have a decent track record in manipulating and controlling seething masses of impoverished muslims. Can this be why Europe is being deliberately islamized?
Having escaped from California to a much whiter and traditionally ‘independent’ state only to find myself surrounded by goodwhites whose biggest concern is not implementing California styled political, social, and cultural agendas fast enough, I agree: this is by design. It may not be evil-genius design, but a kind of lasso the entropy and ride it down approach. Either way there is a lot of wealth to extract. Like some LBO of an old industrial corp, real assets are stripped and sold while paper assets become part of the cloud, fed upon by the need and greed created by the… Read more »
I think that we already see what will be used to maintain control: Ginned up hatred of whites and an agreement to hold off inter-tribal hostilities to better loot and enslave whites. And you know what? It’s working. But you can see the cracks in that system. Jews and their lapdog whites are struggling to maintain control of dumb but unruly blacks and Muslims and smart Asians and Indians who want to a greater say behind (and in front) of the curtain. Regardless, that whole system hinges on whites staying passive. If even a small percentage of whites join the… Read more »
Agree with your first point. Exactly what Mugabe did in Zimbabwe when he assumed power.
That’s why the practical motto of our thing has got to be: Just keep redpilling.
It’s hard to know exactly how far, or in what ways, our messages spread on the internet. But they do spread. Often fast. You can see a lot of stuff from the d-right-o-sphere, including the Zblog, spreading through society.
You never know when we’re going to reach that “win threshold” of whites playing the identity game. But redpilling is a no-risk effort for anons: maybe we wake people up in time, maybe we don’t, but at least we tried.
20 more years was all they needed to seal the deal – low & slow until replacement numbers had been reached.
They jumped the gun with Obama and too many White frogs started jumping out of the pot.
Those Whites could finally smell what Barak was cookin’.
For all their vaunted smarts, Jewish hubris & overreach has tripped them up 109 times before.
Give the Yankees credit. They knew better than to fight in 1820 or 1850 when they might have lost.
This time they waited and brought in mercenaries. But the problem with bringing in too many mercenaries is that they can take over.
Jews do so well early in the game because of their hubris and overreach but it always gets them into trouble later in the game.
Regardless, I’ve argued that the demographic race is over; we’re just not seeing yet. But look at births and it’s over. Even if we stopped all immigration tomorrow (and that won’t happen), we’d still become a minority.
So the United State is over, but we still can make something new. That game is far from over.
“So the United State is over, but we still can make something new.”
THIS!
Pretty much where I’m at. We’re looking to build our own Oranias for now, A few generations on, the no-longer-U S of A will be weaker and we’ll be stronger. Fate may deal us some good cards anytime as well.
Overreach is our saving grace. They always overreach. Problem is we have been ineffective in rolling back their overreach efforts over the years, so we have a ratcheting effect.
Example, Obama care is still here. We only succeeded in making it even more fiscally unsound. When political power switches over, Obama Care will be used as a basis/excuse to implement a “Medicare for all” complete medical field take over.
Happens over and over, but they never catch wise.
Meh, let’s not jump the gun here. They are still doing the exact same thing. Just more people are aware. Like 5% aware.
That’s better than 1%. Also, you only need ~10% of a population to change the whole system.
Some points, in no particular order; 1. In the end, the US is going to split into several countries, there can be no other ending. The only questions are, will it be peaceful or bloody, and what and how much will our people get. The sooner we start thinking about and addressing these questions, the better. 2. VDH is actually smarter than he lets on. A lot of his CivNat stuff is just to hang on to his job at NR, there’s no doubt that he, like a lot of other older Boomers, knows the score, he just can’t say… Read more »
VDH is quite comfortable with his long-time position at the Hoover institute at Stanford. He needs nothing from NR—certainly not a smallish paycheck—that his occasional article may bring. He is also an author of great renown wrt military history. Those books alone bring a good income from continuing sales. He is monetarily pretty independent IMO. That said, I agree he’s too intelligent to not know the score and like many others does not take the final step wrt his writings, but don’t confuse that for selling out for a paycheck. An equally valid assumption may be simply that he has… Read more »
Regarding 1, who knows. I hope so. California, Texas and New Mexico scare me though. Just slow white replacement in those states. That’s what I fear the most.
#2: I agree.
#3: Hatred of whitey is a major rallying cry. It’ll work in this country for a very long time – if we don’t push back.
I’ve always thought that one gambit would be to promote state independence movements. It’s one last chance to cash in on regional variation before we all get pulverized into mystery-meat shithole stew.
This sort of thing is gaining steam in Canada, so why not here?
Also, normie whites are not good at organizing, but they can still vote. As we saw with Trump and Brexit, they in fact have a taste for big stick-it-to-the-man referendums.
Worth a shot.
The completion of the American Revolution is WAR BETWEEN THE STATES
So that phase ended in 1865?
The seeds planted by rebellion and secession never entirely go away. They lie dormant in the soil, just waiting to get watered and sprout again. That’s why the top-down control freaks are in a constant state of agitation, because they know this.
“There will be no confirmatory collapse of the Progressive order. There will be no sudden realization of their errors and a great retreat from radical multiculturalism. There is no returning to the America of the past, real or imagined. The old white America where civic nationalism was enough to maintain regional cooperation will not work in a land of hostile strangers. In a land of tribes, many hostile and many encouraged to be hostile, something else will be used to maintain control.”
>The Z Man TAKES THE BLACK PILL
Things are looking pretty bleak for us today. Then you look at the trend lines. Things look to be getting worse, no? Any plan to end our foreign invasion? Any plan to balance the budget? Any hope our schools or our media will purge itself from Marxist domination? Is there anyone out there on the horizon who can save us – a George Washington? The black pill slides down real easily, while the white pill looks like a horse pill. The ratio of us versus them is shrinking every day. Not to say that something unexpected may happen to save… Read more »
Facing reality square on is not “taking the black pill.” The 1950s country I knew as a kid is long gone. That there is an increasing number of young people waking up, though still a small minority, is what I consider a white pill.
It’s nice to believe that we have the agency to bring about the needed change. Maybe in numbers we do. But since we lack the lines of communication to organize effectively, since every institution is controlled by our enemies, since the majority of white men still think in terms of “getting back to the constitution and letting the market decide” and a handful of other delusions…our enemies need to complete their job of wrecking our institution before we act as a tribe with tribal interests. Look at how far we’ve fallen in just the past 2 decades and yet most… Read more »
To end Clown World, first survive then escape it. The enemy are men (poor examples, at that, for the most), not heroes or gods. As late as the 1970’s I still had family who lived a basically frontier lifestyle 100+ years removed from the surrounding communities in Appalachia. They were K-12 educated at best and put little deliberate effort into isolation or cultural preservation or resistance. Many lived on the edge of the law in terms of moonshining, poaching, truancy, zoning and numerous other “malum prohibitum” offenses against Bureaucrat Gangs state and federal. We have the IQ, intentions, technology and… Read more »
And he can have that black pil! 🙂 The game is not over. Hell, it hasn’t even started. Look at the democrats – they are now so vibrant and so diverse – they can’t do their jobs. Their cloud people are under the gun too – the white shitlibs have swarms of coloured morons trying to take over their party, horn in on their scams and grifts, and call the shots. Look at this blog: when I started reading here a year ago, our blog host might get 50 comments a day from a basket of deplorable racists, haters, and… Read more »
‘[All] it takes is a handful of white guys to rule hordes of browns and blacks.’
That may be true, but it’s not a long-term solution. The most humane solution is racial and ethnic separation (not the same thing) into discrete, autonomous (or at least semi-autonomous), preferably sovereign homelands.
I cannot think of a single important problem that a multi-racial — even white supremacist (not endorsing, just describing) — society does not make harder to solve.
Separation, not supremacy is really the only way to make sure we’re not right back in this place in 60 years.
Sorry John, but you are delusional. There is no white majority country outside of eastern Europe that will remain so in 100 years. The fact that the comment section of this blog has increased from 50 to 200 is great for Z’s debating and complaining club. Our future is bleak and there are no metrics that portend otherwise. Most people prefer comforting illusions to cold reality. I get that. After all, we only have one life to live, and the harshness of unsettling facts can become a never ending downer. Despite being raised in a Christian faith, by the age… Read more »
Well, you win the Gloomy Gus award for today.
Hard to argue with you. That said, a little over 100 years ago, whites stood astride the world. Outside of Japan, no non-European country even held a candle to us. Europeans outnumbered Africans something like 5 to 1. China was a backwater. The Middle East was under British and French control. American whites (90% of the population) were a deeply religious people. To a Muslim or a Chinaman or an African, the idea that they could take on such a colossus, much less defeat it without a fight, would have seemed absurd. Yet, here we are. History is not linear.… Read more »
Predictions of the future are notoriously inaccurate. Read 10 books from 50 years ago about the 21st century. Flying cars, robot housemaids, a Star Trek economy, fusion power, kumbaya one-world government on the one hand, Malthusian hell, resource scarcity, nuclear winter. ice ages. Venusian warming on the other. The box cars and gulags of the USSR went from running on schedule to the sh*tcan of history in the span of about 2-3 years. Staring into the abyss gives you no greater insight than those of us staring at the sun. The only certainty is that if you give up, you… Read more »
“all it takes is a handful of white guys to rule over hordes of browns and blacks”. Yes……..but……….. that is not the question that needs to be answered IMHO. The question is: Why the hell would you want to? One of the harsher descriptions I’ve heard used to talk about POC is “obsolete farm equipment”. Recognizing that as a truism – you then are forced to recognize that Lincoln majorly screwed up when he didn’t send them all back. What does a farmer do with his old tractors? He parks them out in the back 40 somewhere and lets them… Read more »
The game is not over.
White Americans may becoming a minority, but they’ll still be the largest ethnic group by far, for many decades to come.
Unfortunately, half of the Whites are actively working for the demise of the entire group.
You make an interesting point. If White Americans start taking their own side — even as a minority — and push for separatist policies, we can win in the long run.
Sorry, but 1.2 million illegals per year currently apprehended at the southern border and released into the US, plus hundreds of thousands of illegals not apprehended per year entering the US, plus over a million legal immigrants admitted to the US per year, plus various and sundry refugee resettlement programs are only the beginning. Trump cannot or will not stem this flow of people and the tidal wave will increase by factors of 2,3 or 4 in the near future. Do the math and whites will be a minority within ?.
Exactly. We may not be able to vote our way out of this, but we still control our destiny. The historic United States is the walking dead, but American whites have whatever future we want.
” American whites have whatever future we want.”
IFF you harden your hearts.
For those of you disinclined to remember doing math proofs in your high school geometry class, IFF stands for “if and only if”.
BIG UPVOTE TODAY, JOHN SMITH.
The biggest threat to America isn’t socialism, it’s the Browning, Feminizing & Gaying of America.
Scandinavian socialism works because of Scandinavians (and is starting to not work b/c Others). I’d rather fight for a White Socialist America than a multi-ethnic Capitalist America. We already tried that, and all we got was multi-tribal socialism in a fake wrapper.
Don’t be so certain about the loyalties of the increasingly brown, femme & gay troops either.
Like you, I have no knee-jerk reaction to the prospects for ‘socialism’. Most people who complain about it have little idea what ‘socialism’ really amounts to, just like they have little idea what ‘capitalism’ really amounts to. Whereas capitalism is simply state-enforced usury for the interests of those who one the means of monetary production, socialism is simply any economic idea that does not place Money Power first.
Kudos to your optimistic words! There’s room on our side of the divide for both Zman’s black pill and your white pill. We need the darkness and the light. Zman can provide hard-bitten realism, while folks such as yourself deliver much-needed motivation for change. Yin and yang. All that jazz.
Red Pill leads to the Black Pill, but once certain truths are digested and certain grieving processes completed, the Black Pill leads to the White Pill.
If Z-man is delivering “realism” then the opposite is logically…
And how does that work as a path forward?
– all it takes is a handful of white guys to rule hordes of browns and blacks. –
True, but that can’t work in a “democracy”. If the system fails, though, and anarchy ensues, then you might be right.
“All it takes is a handful of white guys to rule over hordes of browns and blacks” This is a ridiculous statement: 1. It only works short term. Do a handful of white guys still rule in India? Vietnam? Rhodesia? South Africa? Haiti? Eventually a “handful of white guys” always gets run out of places with a non-white supermajority. And those were overseas colonies. Now we are faced with the prospect of being run out of our own countries… except that there will be no motherland to return to. 2. Even if it were true… Do you want to spend… Read more »
Bullshit! A democracy is where it will work. A democracy is mob rule. We aren’t a democracy. The word is Republic. Everyone wants to equate the two. Again Bullshit.The history of Democracies have the same results.That being an authoritarian regime run by a dictator. When it comes to a SHTF moment, rest assured ALL political ideas will be ignored and the safety will be removed on all our weapons. Let the chips fall where they may. Defense of the idea of America is still viable and worth fighting for. Semper Fi.
We were not formed as a democracy but if the definition is “mob rule” then that is what we are. We were formed as a constitutional democratic republic but we are neither constitutional nor republic.
The distance between northern England and the south is in American terms miniscule but the cultural difference vast and yet here too they insist we hold the same values. The election on the 12th Dec is going to be quite a shock to our southern metro elite.
It is possible that progressive leftism is a symptom of the greater disease of globalism. If true, that would more easily enable conservatives to envision a past that never existed. It would also better enable them to deny past failures and more importantly to deny reality. Logic and reason mean nothing to our opposition. If you acknowledge the truth it requires action. Nothing will change as long as we are forced to live with these people. Conservative delusions keep them from seeing reality and relegate them to a state of inaction and ineffectiveness.
Progressive Leftism is a symptom of the greater disease of Globalism, which is a symptom of the greatest disease of them all, if you catch my drift…
Those fucking Samoans!
Great article as always, funny in the last 8 hrs ive heard 2 people talk about blood libel, you and RamZPaul… You guys also discussed Cloud people and the dirt people. Are you the same person!? 😛 Great stuff, thanks again.
I’ve been on Paul’s show. He is a daily reader and often amplifies my stuff. That’s what the video guys really do well. It’s what talk radio used to do for conservatives. It’s why you should keep these guys in mind when you being generous during the holidays.
I looked for you on ramzpauls channel but I think he got rid of the video… Too much wrong think.
Do you have a link to it? I’d like to check it out.
I think it was the Christmas get-together. It was great fun. More diverse than anything on the left. All the Kool Kids made an appearance. IIRC, Z expressed his happiness at clearing-out stuff.
https://youtu.be/4n-C2lrqOps this is the dirt people one, the blood libel I believe is this video https://youtu.be/Yh18eOB3Obk
Paul is a great envoy. He just looks like a normal guy. Sailer has a similar quality, but Paul does videos which is huge. People look at him and see their brother or father. Joe Normie sees himself in Paul.
Also, forget the holidays, just set up a monthly payment so you don’t have to remember to send.
He just looks like a normal guy.
I’ve figured out Ramz. His secret is that he is a normal guy. It’s everybody else that’s gone crazy.
Felix,
Exactly. He is a normal guy. You can’t watch him and think otherwise. He makes Joe Normie realize that everything that Joe has been noticing isn’t crazy, it’s reality. Joe realizes that he’s not going nuts, the country is. It’s all details after that.
We need dozens of Ramz, but that means dozens of regular guys losing their livelihoods and probably a friends and family. That’s a lot to ask.
It was almost as if Charlie Kirk was being held hostage by one of the infantryman in the culture war he claimed we are fighting. It’s not enough we get old men like Hanson to step aside along with all the others of old defeated conservatism, but we have to vanquish the likes of Shapiro, Kirk, and their cheerleaders like Hannity.
I just hope little Fuentes and crew are just a start. Hopefully there will be an aftermath to this that will provide some territory and protection for the normy America that wants it.
Hanson may indeed be stuck in an ageing conservative mindset but I think it’s also possible that he possesses the historian’s fatalistic acceptance of the tragedy and inevitability of human folly.
Oh, we have to keep going. In fact, we should be sending guys to this sort of thing forever, or at least until we win. The key point is to realize who your audience is. Your audience is not Charlie Kirk, and it’s not the shills or conservacucks who cheer Charlie Kirk. Your audience is the people at the event and on the internet who are still “convertible,” people in whom the left and/or cuck brainwashing doesn’t go too deep. So even if Kirk’s rehearsed put-downs get a big cheer from his own choir, it doesn’t really matter: if our… Read more »
Shapiro and Kirk are just scum; people who deliberately divert people’s attention to unimportant issues in order to harm their own audience. There should be a special circle of hell just for this sort of person. Hanson frustrates me in another way. From his collected writings, it’s clear that he has all the pieces for full Realism, in our sense of the term. And he is a man of high intelligence, intellectual stamina, and good character. And yet he never quite puts all the pieces together. He’s retirement age. He’s written his big books. His “Mexifornia-d” farmland is already lost… Read more »
If he’s really everything you say he is, he Would be doing the right thing…
“What does he have to lose?”
His lifelong security blanket. Also known as, our greatest ally. These guys will never be able to break with the image of Israel in their heads. Without it, their view of the US changes, and that’s not psychologically possible.
I am pretty sure now that the Chucky Kirk road show is over, the *right* media types are gonna dig through Fuentes garbage can and find something that will be used to ban him into oblivion.
We need to stop sending people up to “troll” public figures if we don’t have a way to take care of them when they are promptly expelled from what passes for “civil society” directly afterward.
A young guy reading off his phone like he’s being filmed by the Vietcong is a bad look. The important thing is not to ask a long, long question. It’s to ask a quick incisive question that gets to the heart of a contradiction in their philosophy. Getting up there and demanding they white list Fuentes or debate Fuentes is a bad look too.
Nahhh, we need more of them questioning the public cucks. This is just getting started. Now’s not the time to contract.
People need to take this and begin hammering their local reps with this stuff, especially in the heartand, where poleaxing a congressman or state rep in front of a hundred people can actually have an impact on a race.
It’s going to be harder to get through now that they’re planting friendly questioners and screening out potential “groypers.” No doubt you’ll see some of these kids doxxed and de-platformed as well. “Pour encourager les autres.”
These are young kids going up against guys with a staff of ghost-writers & legal-PR shills. I don’t see Kirk rolling back the tide even if he manages to stand his ground on the odd night.
What do we expect? The enemy is not going to just lay down and die when the going gets tough! This is a war and they have plenty of ammo.
The groypers are getting their chance to show what they are made of. Will they crack? Will they sperg? We’re going to find out if they are clowns or the real thing.
Along with many others, I predicted it. Char-lay has adopted the Antifa tactic of shouting people down while calling them racist white supremacists. His side (including Shapiro & Crenshaw) don’t convey a lot of self-confidence when they do this. I thought Crenshaw’s thinly-veiled threat the other day was particularly bad optics for them.
Yup. And Antifa’s winning streak remains unbroken.
Last night, Kirk came back with the most basic retorts and the Groypers had nothing. Even Fuentes and Anglin admitted it was a disaster.
This morning feels an awful lot like the morning of August 13, 2017 did.
I just read Anglin’s rehash of the disaster, with a lot of transcript. A few observations: 1. I simply cannot believe the intellectual childishness and rhetorical vacuousness of everyone involved, Kirk and groypers alike. I always knew our public discourse was retarded, but this was retard world squared, then squared again. It’s just embarrassing that this is how we talk in public. The groypers can be forgiven because they are angry young amateurs. But Kirk is an absolute retard, and HE holds the mic? 2. Kirk did not “own” anybody. He shouted people down, used stupid slogans, did the old… Read more »
I’ll start worrying when Donald Macron Jr. feels cocky enough to go back onstage with his granny-waifu.
Z,
True. But a fundamental issue is race. We want to bring it into the conversation and most CivNats don’t. Even using euphemisms like “demographics,” it still comes back to race. Kirk, et al, will always argue 1) good people (like the people in this audience) are colorblind and 2) we can convert people of other races and ethnicities with our ideas.
That’s an emotional answer (also a lie) that CivNats want to hear. What’s our emotional response that they’re ready to hear?
Then don’t do another similar one, at least not right now. Come at them from a different direction. Make sure they are always fighting yesterday’s battle.
Disaster? Charlottesville? Come on, bro. Dial it back a little over the holidays and re-engage rested and with better SA.
I was more referring to a feeling of that we’d passed a high water mark and that the other side has now figured out how to beat us.
The next Groyper event will be an even bigger shitshow, much as Hunter Wallace’s “White Lives Matter” March was.
That’s a bit hyperbolic, don’t you think? No dead bodies, no crying “Nazis” etc. Anything Anglin is involved in should be dead and buried anyway. Those guys are a bunch of weirdos. Weev lives with a Jew in NYC. Give me a break.
Anyway there’s a link to “last night?” I find this back and forth entertaining…
TPUSA won’t stream their own events anymore, as they don’t want to give us a platform.
I’d suggest Daily Stormer or Fuentes’ Twitter.
It’s not hard to come up with quick replies to the Groyper questions that muddy the water enough for your average CivNat. It’s the follow-up questions that can’t be answered. Demand debates.
That was an embarrassing performance. I agree. Kirk couldn’t have done it more adroitly than had he chosen those people, and those “questions,” himself. One thing I am struck by — as an older guy — is the way some younger people read their questions on cell phones. I understand they’re nervous, but it seems to me that most of the time, you can pretty much bet that whatever follows the reading of the question is going to be a flop for the questioner. I taught for some time, and am a pretty confident public speaker. If I were to… Read more »
There are always going to be bad nights. Even the best strike out on occasion.
Idk man, I’m not driving 120mph through the Blue Ridge mtns at the head of a mob, so it isn’t that bad.