President Trump kicked off his re-election campaign with a rally in Tulsa Oklahoma on Saturday night. The most remarked feature of the event was the tiny crowd that bothered to show up. Even the Breitbart zombies could not help but notice that the arena was about a third of capacity. The other remarkable feature is that Trump pretty much used recycled material from the past, rather use the event to reframe his flailing election campaign. It was very low energy.
In fairness, the run-up to the event was marred by the mayor declaring a state of emergency, along with warnings that mobs of Antifa would be there to beat people trying to enter the arena. Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters, so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on. Trump can forget about holding rallies this summer. The Left will not permit it.
Still, there is a marked lack of enthusiasm for Trump. By the standards of his rhetoric, his presidency has been a spectacular failure. His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates. If you voted for Trump because of immigration, you have gotten less than nothing from him. Immigration has increased, work visas have increased and he bungled DACA into a permanent program.
The worst aspect of Trump and the one that will probably cost him the election is he keeps endorsing the morality of his opponents. In one breath he tells his voters he will fight the Left. In the next breath he tells them the Left is standing on the moral high ground and he worships at their feet. DACA is a perfect example. He could have rescinded it and been done with it. Instead he spent years telling us he cared more about these invaders than the Democrats. The court believed him.
If Trump was actually fighting for his issues, his lack of accomplishment could be turned into an asset. People can respect a guy who keeps fighting against a system that is as thoroughly corrupt as Washington. That’s not the case here. Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for Senate, hired John Bolton, opposes Jeff Sessions. He has spent his entire time in office singing the praises of blacks, Hispanics and migrants, while never mentioning white people, the people who voted for him.
At this point, a reasonable person has to wonder if Trump was not a Manchurian candidate all along. If in 2016 you were hoping to derail white populism one more time as you slammed the prison doors shut, what would you do different? Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a second party or building a legitimate alternative to the ruling class. Trump was actually a delaying action all along, so the ruling class could finish their work.
Now, a lot will happen in the next four and half months, so it is foolish to write-off Trump completely at this point. He is running against a dementia patient. Lost in all the tumult of late is the fact that Biden has declined even further since we last saw him. By the fall the choice could very well be a terrible disappointment or a man unsure of where he is at the moment. That and the background could be blacks looting and burning white neighborhoods in the suburbs while the cops laugh about it.
Trump can also help his cause by firing the Hillary Clinton supporter he has running his campaign at the moment. That’s right. His campaign manager, Brad Parscale, did not vote for him in 2016. He could also sideline the Chabad agent assigned to him. That would be Jared Kushner, the genius mind behind throwing open the prison doors so BLM can riot in the streets. Kushner really does resemble a lizard person, so maybe Alex Jones is right about that one.
A campaign centered on reviving the economy and restoring law and order would at least have some coherence. He could then run against both parties as responsible for the mayhem we are seeing. It would be cynical and dishonest, but it would probably work to re-energize his campaign. It would also force Biden to defend the establishment and the current mayhem. Forcing Dementia Joe to speak in public should be Trump’s number one priority throughout the summer.
Whether or not Trump does anything to save himself is an open question at this point, as he looks like a beaten man. His rally in Tulsa was a dud and it was clear he knew it as soon as he waddled on the stage. He was once again setup to fail by people around him, people who worked hard to prevent him from winning in 2016. At this stage, it would be remarkable if Trump realized he has to stop trusting his enemies and doubting his friends. It’s possible, but the window is closing.
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Not to boomer bash but Trump does what he does because he is a quintessential boomer in his views of the world and the system as a whole. In other words, he doesn’t see the system itself as being corrupt to the core. Instead, he clings to the illusion that it’s just being prevented from working correctly (instead of accepting the reality that the system is working as designed) by a few “bad apples”. Again I think a part of this is simply age. By their very nature, old people do not want to turn the apple cart over and… Read more »
Yeah but the aging hippies are old too but they don’t want to tinker with the system. Supposedly they want to blow it up or have their young cronies do it for them. but if Trump still doesn’t get it, that the system is rotten to the core, then it’s a failing of his. Maybe because he’s super rich that if the system is rotten then it means he may be too since he thrived in it and is a product of it, so therefore it can’t be rotten in his mind. but it’s just bizarre all around. We have… Read more »
I think the biggest joke we’ll find out one day is that Trump’s “wealth” was just an interlocking set of leveraged loans. Exactly like…the system. Replete with pure fraud on Wall Street, filtering all the way down to main street. If “the system” could actually occupy talking meat, it would be Trump.
That’s practically everybody’s wealth. We won’t find out who’s actually rich until the banking system stops working.
Divide everything by 20
That’s pretty much what everything is worth in terms of actual cash since there is only about $15 trillion of it and yet the appraised “values” of everything from houses to stocks is like $300 trillion
They still think the commies are going to nuke us if we don’t buy the world a Coke. Hard to beat childhood programming.
I was thinking about that the other day. They had MLK and the moon landing. My generation had Rodney King and the Challenger disaster. To give only 2 examples. It’s no wonder I find their perspective so hard to relate to.
We spent our childhoods losing our fathers and becoming latch-key kids. I can still remember walking home from school and hearing about the space shuttle blowing up and also the mayor of my city bombing a city block (the MOVE disaster). This along with books and movies about the impending nuclear holocaust. But at least we got to see the Berlin Wall fall. Gen-X was the last generation to experience a major positive event which changed the world.
From what I saw on my cul-de-sac, mom generally pushed dad out of the picture because he was a workaholic who didn’t pay enough attention to her, as she was off jazzercising her a ss off when he actually was home to pay attention to her. Driving home “late” in her new 3 Series, angry that he didn’t make enough to buy her the 5 Series.
You have just described my childhood to a tee. At least I learned how to cook for myself. Fellow Gen X.
You don’t count every new app and site that comes along? Major, positive and world-changing all, better faster and cheaper every few years! You’d better take your Soma and rethink your position.
MOVE disaster
I don’t remember a lot about that, but as far as I remember, those guys had it coming. One of the few times in history that having a Black mayor was beneficial, because only a Black mayor could get away with that kind of slaughter.
The mayor ordered a police helicopter to air drop a padlocked satchel which contained twenty-five pounds of C-4 and a timed detonator. Mussed their hair up a bit and resulted in one heck of a fireworks show. Coming to organizing meetings for Our Thing soon except delivery will be by drone. “This is Dominos, your pizza delivery has arrived, please open the door.” KABLAMMM! (an Israeli technique)
MOVE took over a building in a rather violent fashion and was nooisy and public so the cities Black mayor wisely dealt with it.
Our Thing is going to be a hell of lot more discrete and if it every goes to that, there are plenty of ways to return the favor.
Re your second para, I am skeptical for many reasons, although I do pray you are correct and I am mistaken. In my neck of the woods, actually the core of a major metro, it’s extraordinary when I can identify a supporter of Our Thing. Typically, the rare maga attire wearer is mere edgy rebel and not a true believer or useful ally. I have helped convert a few but the numbers are not encouraging. Most folks just keep their heads down and parrot the narrative. Time will tell.
Easy tiger, your Reaganism is showing. East Germany went from the frying pan of communistic suppression and into the fire of western racial mongrelization and destruction of ethnic pride. Note that while many eastern bloc nations labored under the yoke of communism, they remained ethnically homogeneous. “Big government” is not evil so long as it works toward the interest of the volk.
However true that might be, that is in hindsight. At the time, it was seen as a giant positive world altering event. It was on TV for like a year. It was a big deal and it had an effect on us. It was super-optimism is a time that already had so much optimism songs like “The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades”
Absolutely. I’ve been dealing with this forever. And a boomer will literally finger wag to you about how they “bootstrapped” it. They were handed a country that was number one, or near number one in every metric. Bootstrap my a ss. To this day they believe their own hype.
In Boomer’s defense, “Muh Bootstaps” were still a real thing when they were in their teens and 20’s.
My frustration with them is not understanding that the world has changed.
Yeah I love it when I see comments about how those snowflake kids aren’t inheriting a thing from me! I’ve started pointing out that the kids aren’t even going to inherit a nation from them. Zero self awareness. It’s astonishing.
Time for me to step in again with the “generational accusations” bullshit is bullshit. People in each generation behave as they have been raised and as the times nudged them. Most people aren’t really good at striving against the tide of humanity. Boomers — you’d act just like Millennials and Gen-Zers if you were raised like them in the same circumstances. Gen-Zers and Millennials, the same in reverse. People suck and are largely short-sighted. Major revelation. Try reading the Bible sometime. The authors had that nailed several thousand years ago. But since people suck and are largely short-sighted, every new… Read more »
I try to be even-handed about this stuff. And frankly I’m most critical of my own generation for being puppeteered, which is pathetic. But all the same I get frustrated hearing what I’ve known for most of my life (re: being cut out of the will) as if it was our fault. We’ve always known about demographic replacement, national bankruptcy, being priced out of our home so it can be sold at a tidy profit, etc. It’s adding insult to injury. So good on you for not rubbing it in. What the right needs to realize is that hope of… Read more »
I would just say help them out now if you can Vizzini so that you might get them to Self Sufficiency a lot faster because who knows how much time we really have…
I’m a late boomer (1961). Your comparison is partly correct, but the US space program had its fatalities (Apollo 1 fire) and, unless I’m mistaken, all the rioting Rodney King (1993) to date doesn’t compare to the riots of the 1960s. And, unfortunately, there are still plenty of nukes in the world. Even though I live in the sticks in Florida, I am walking distance to what was once a “secondary nuclear target.” No idea today, but it is a regional airport and a National Guard site. But I’d rather go with a bang than a whimper 🙂
Did Papa Joe’s ever re-open after that fire?
My perception of these events, and I’m pretty sure it’s typical, was that we’d passed the peak. The game-changing promise of science was about to decline, so was the promise of racial harmony. This was about the time disillusionment was starting to settle in permanently.
I always had fairly low expectations for Trump, but for different reasons. I thought one guy just can’t do that much and that he was going to face serious opposition no matter who won 2016 in the Congress. The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration. He should have turned to people like Pat Buchanan. I didn’t think Trump would be his own worst enemy. I don’t mind things like Q. It does our side no good to OD on black pills everyday. As… Read more »
I laugh and laugh every time one turns on him, and they all do, Bolton being the latest. It also speaks to what an A-hole he must be in person as well.
As John Donne wrote: No man is a island.
And yes if the system collapsed Our Side would be no closer to winning and we’d be much worse off, that’s what Our Side doesn’t; get given how badly whites are fragmented.
We have no Paine, Washington or even a Smedly Butler to step up.
That is because the US is a fake nation. Its needs to go away and be replaced with smaller nations purpose built to suit the needs of the people in them.
If things go to hell , well be more like Chaz when the time comes. He’s a half rate warlord by our standards but being a warlord still merits respect.
Well, Raz is out in the street doing his thing and we’re still just sitting here on the Internet…
Q is no more a morale booster than morphine is a cure. It is an invitation to check out and seek escapist respite in spy novels.
As to the merits of accelerationism, it is looking less unattractive by the day as people’s sunk cost attachment to the status quo grows weaker. Every one has a different threshold below which they would pronounce the system untenable and collapse-worthy. Once critical mass is reached, the benefits of organizing your life outside of it outweigh the risk of forgoing its extant benefits.
It’s not really sunk cost, it’s future cost. The cost of living would rise exponentially and at a far lower level. We do not make hardly anything. What we do make, outside of things like packaged food and the like is high dollar equipment like planes, giant machines for production and military equipment. The basic underlying industry doesn’t exist and is gone too. The expertise has been lost as well. If we could not just print money people in other nations will take, our standard of living would collapse. And an industry for selling our used stuff to foreigners would… Read more »
Yup, the system is more than ready and willing to make examples of any pesky, “white supremacists,” via the police with military assistance as needed.
“The one thing I did not think Trump would do, was give a bunch of never Trump traitors and cucks jobs in his administration.” That’s exactly the argument I try to make. Trump loyalists: “He keeps getting blocked by swamp people, it’s not his fault.” Me: “That’s true, but then why does he hire swamp people? Hard to complain about Bolton if you HIRED him!” Trump loyalists: “Well, it’s Jared who’s leading him astray, Jared keeps forcing all these awful people on him.” Me: “That’s true too, but then why doesn’t Trump boot Jared if Jared’s candidates keep stabbing Trump… Read more »
“I don’t want to hear any more excuses.”
I was waiting for somebody, anybody in that Tulsa crowd to cry, “BUT WHAT ABOUT US”
(the great Bubette Salaam! A fan thanks you for your wonderful twitter feed)
Trump blew it when he didn’t clean house and hire loyal people when he took office.
It would not have been possible to question that move because it is a totally normal thing for an incoming executive.
Let’s say Q had been real. People should have thought “great, we’ve got a mole in the machine working for us, let’s see what we can do on the outside of the machine to seal its fate.” This is actually how you win wars. Different groups working together to encircle and crush an enemy. Only in Rambo movies do you just have one superhuman guy who fights the whole war for you. As the Soup Nazi might say – no exploding arrows for you! So of course it wasn’t real. I said yesterday here that I’m now a rage Trumper.… Read more »
Fact check-True. And a lot of these boomers have a lot to lose. Houses stuffed to the rafters with trinkets they’ve been buying since the 70’s. You practically have to walk sideways when going through a boomer’s house these days. And when they do have to downsize it’s like that Steve Martin scene from The Jerk where he keeps grabbing things on the way out the door. “This is all I need.” The “conservative” boomers have no fight in them at all. They just want to stuff their faces at Mimi’s Cafe and go back to their 5000 square foot… Read more »
You conflate age with cohort. As has been stated, show any significant division of the “Boomers” you decry doing “the right thing” as you see it. People get old, if they’ve been fortunate to prepare a reasonable retirement, they don’t particularly want to rock the boat. It’s difficult to begin again at an old age, the energy isn’t there and return to the economy difficult. However, I agree with others that “finger wagging” and admonishment to pick oneself up by their own bootstraps displays a profound ignorance and arrogance. I also maintain that I’ve never, ever, heard such from any… Read more »
Are you kidding me? I hear it all this time. And if you’re not going to rock the boat that’s fine, but to be utterly brainwashed so late in life is sad. So little of the country’s true problems his home with them.
+1 for your sardonic quit 🙂 Here is a historical question for homework: Why does the boomer live (perhaps alone, as I do, but in 1500 SF) in a detached single family home out in the suburbs? Why doesn’t he live in a smaller, cozy home in the big city, perhaps one that was built in the 1920s and tastefully maintained? In otherwords, very likely the kind of home his grandparents owned or rented? Or, if of more modest means, why doesn’t he live in an apartment building in the city? Hint: find out how that old city neighborhood changed… Read more »
There’s plenty of housing options that don’t involve being in a walk-up from the 20s. I’m just saying where their hearts are and have always been. Boomers have always been about quantity over quality, even in their eating habits and housing. They would rather have a monument to sheet rock than things that are well crafted and tasteful. They would rather have the Golden Corral buffet with unlimited cornbread than something tasteful down the street. Of course I’m speaking generally which is illegal these days. There are exceptions.
So it comes down to differences in esthetic sensibilities?
The answer to Bens question is Orcs.
What do I win?
Or is that another one of those trick questions?
ever hear the song “Home for Sale” by Dwight Yoakam?
I think you would like it. Captures so much of what you are talking about
“Not to boomer bash but …” … followed by guess what. I don’t disagree with you about a lot of boomers that I read about or see comments from on-line. The media, print-press, Hollywood, and so forth have been pushing the hippy boomer set for 50 years. But, there is a set of southerners born about the same time (boomers in other words) who know that the USA government is a creation of Lucifer. In fact, I have known damn few people my age who did not hate the government. Especially the f’ing feds. If the first civil war comes… Read more »
As I lay me down to sleep,
Lord let me take some with me to the deep
I’m 53 but of the same mind as you
I have despised the government pretty much my whole adult life. I was raised in the south. And watching white pols from the south kiss the big yankee butt always infuriated me
Anything for a buck and NYC approval, white southerners be damned. See Northam
Gee, I am a boomer and I saw things were off the rails 15 years ago. Bush 2 had just won re-election and had majorities in both houses. I thought here comes the fulfillment of conservative principles about small government. What we got was the further centralization of education, a new handout (prescription drugs), low cost loans in the name of an “ownership society,” which led to the housing collapse, a fantasy that we could plant democracy in the Middle East, and a tiny tax cut. Now, looking back, I can see how silly our generation was. Let me count… Read more »
Grandpa, I donated to you after your doxxing. I hope you and your family are well.
This is a great description of the perspective of my Silent generation parents, who both voted for Trump.
“Oh, things will go back to normal, it always does!”
I guess the “Pendulum Fallacy” is a subtype of the “Normalcy Bias Fallacy.”
<i>His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters and massive give-sways to the super-rich and global pirates.</i>
You forgot about moving the embassy to Jerusalem.
Honorable mention goes to his great SCOTUS picks.
Oh c’mon now. Over the flames, I could hear grateful negroes chanting “Gorsuch… Gorsuch…”
What you heard was, “gibs-me-dat-fuk! gibs-me-dat-fuk! ….” (in the modern ebonic language, dat-fuk implies “n sheet.”)
With the Sandbagger-In-Chief riding off into the sunset (or muddling through another four years) we can write off any great white hope of having Our people represented in the system as is.
We tried. He failed. TPTB have trebled their efforts to humiliate and destroy us.
We are morally free at this point.
Ohh please there was no chance at all that our people would get real representation.
And there is no reason a white hope cannot arise even with Trump in office. Trump is a non-entity for the most part now. He’s afraid of the rioters and has no control over the government anymore.
Rwc 1963, I think you misunderstand me, Sir. We were obliged to go through the motions of pretending there are rules and the game is fair. It was always a stacked deck but the moral imperative of playing the hand out is completed. With clear conscience we can step away from the rigged game. A hundred posts here and I don’t think I’ve mentioned Trump once. He was always a forlorn hope in my book. While he may have fronted himself as a representative of heritage Americans for opportunistic or vague personal notions, he nevertheless became the expression of the… Read more »
Officially recognizing Israel’s annexation of the occupied Golan Heights is another feather in his cap. Real estate is his business .
I’m going to help you out Felix since you keep posting the same thing over & over without the self awareness to realize it is not working for whatever reason. (Einstein, definition of insanity?) HTML tag italics do not work anymore. But as you can see from what I just wrote; Italics, do indeed, still work. While you are posting here direct your eyes to the little bar of icons at the bottom of the comment window. See the B, I, U, etc? Bold, Italic, Underline, etc as has been standard for at least the past 30 years on any… Read more »
A great example of TDS.
This is perfect example of the sort of mouth breather Trump assumes is his base. They are dumb, they watch Fox News and they repeat catch phrases fed to them by the marketing department of Conservative Inc. Trump correctly assumes these dopes will turn up and vote for the guy with an “R” next to their name. The mistake Trump is making is in assuming these people constitute a majority of voters. They may not even be a majority of white people now.
Well, I certainly understand where this site is coming from. You are the one assuming – and a lot. You also assumed a lot in 2016. How’d that work for ya? I’m a mouth breather, eh? I’m dumb, eh? I watch Fox News, eh? TDS is not a catch phrase, it’s real and lives within you. I’m not dumb and I don’t watch Fox News, nor any TV news other than maybe the weather. The things you just said are insults fed by you and others time, and time again. Try to be original instead of doing exactly what you… Read more »
OK Boomer. Keep up the good work.
The problem here is neither that we have displays of TDS, or “mouth breathers”. It is that we have most often a “disagreement” (to put it mildly) on the facts, or premises of the argument wrt Trump. Wherever Trump criticism is made, it is often absolute, rarely nuanced For example (not to restart a tired discussion), as in failure to control immigration. No mention made of any successes, just a claim of abject failure. The criticism of failure to build the “wall” is always absolute and repeated over and over again—often by the same folk—only to be refuted over and… Read more »
I concur. I expected an adolescent response because I was responding to an adolescent opinion. I got it, too. (this is Boomer)
Guys like you and Z are why whites can’t get their shit together you are all to happy to form a circular firing squad.
Instead of forming a big tent party for whites, you’re doing the heavy lifting for the opposition.
You really think the Orcs and the globalists give a shit about some artificial distinctions you guys have for whites you despise.? No they don’t.
By this rationale, we should never criticize the Left. After all, most of them are white.
Cool it with the anti-Orc remarks.
Didn’t you get the memo?
https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/diversity-and-dnd
Compsci and Rwc gave you articulate responses, Your Neighbor. It may be that you’ve dropped into a more nuanced setting than you are used to and it is easy to haze the new guy but end up with Rwc’s “circular firing squad.” Stick around. Go easy on the criticism and you should be treated with civility for the most part. Everyone here (with the exception of a few nutters) all have the same desire to help Our People.
If an ethno-state is ever created it will be done by the left.
Figuring out that sales pitch / marketing effort to actuate that is the real political jujitsu.
They already want it but the mainstream such as it is will call them “The Right.” since they’ve been doing that for propaganda purposes since the 30’s. In its nascent form the .Alt Right, these guys were included with Our Thing which was a mistake as public discipline and op-sec have always been a problem with that lot. That said Our Thing needs to ditch the GOPe economy adherents along with any remaining grifters and libertarians the sooner the better. We may well choose socialized medicine or we may not but whatever path we chose, extreme concentration of wealth and… Read more »
More than anything I think we need a careful and detailed analysis of what we’re really up against and what we hope to replace it with. Consider that a lot of the real power in today’s world does not lie with governments at all but with multinational corporations that operate as “ghost nations” within every nation they infect. Governments are increasingly just their enforcement arms, hired goons to crush opponents. Many (most?) of our laws are even written by lobbyists working directly for them. This isn’t even hidden. It’s easy to just say “smash them”. It’s not easy to see… Read more »
O.M.G.
Boss. Gonna call you boss, el Jefe, lo Honcho.
I can feel the adult part of my brain waking up, smelling breakfast, and getting interested. This is steak and eggs for those who won’t touch the race aspect.
By gum, I think you’ve just given us our way out.
Sorry. I just can’t stop myself sometimes. It’s me, really.
I’m reminded of how Mitt Romney thought he would reach the White House solely on the votes of small business owners.
A lot of the push back you’re receiving is not MAGA tier bellyaching. It’s Hazony tier pilpul. You poked a stick into their little hornet’s nest last year and they aren’t quite sure how to respond…so they show up here and there playing the reasonable ones with a pathway to political redemption. They worry about too much too fast so they want to rein things in before it all gets away from them. Dissident sites have seen a significant uptick in traffic so expect more and more of this sort of push back and trolling. They want to bait as… Read more »
The biggest flaw among Our Side is the insane level of finger pointing aimed at other whites just because of their age or grouping..
This is self-destructive. And guess what it makes us easy prey.
And no a Trump defeat doesn’t work out for us given how fragmented whites are. We will be picked off quite easily. What do you think Big Tech has been doing? Building a nice database of white malcontents they can give to the Fed for round up.
Trump sucks all of the energy out of the tent. People wait for him to do something…anything. He runs out the clock. Without him people will understand that we have to group and act to protect ourselves or we get rolled over. It’s not just dissidents. It is now the majority of whites who our enemies see as a problem that needs to be eradicated. It’s better to have our enemies tighten the screws now while we are still 50% of the population than to ride things out for another handful of years and have to do so with 40%…30%…Time… Read more »
I don’t agree that a Trump defeat helps us. I do agree that the obsession with national politics is very much a sort of sportsball type spectatorism. It diverts effort into a controlled arena where the enemy controls all the entry points. There is still at least the chance that Trump’s 2nd term will see action against the tech giants. Trump has a personal beef with Twitter and it may be that he will act on that if not some abstract love of freedom. I think we all agree that Trump’s ego is huge. Anything that damages tech gives us… Read more »
Trump is a banded bull. He plays along because his family will be destroyed if he doesn’t.
If the present openly anti-White not-so-cold-war doesn’t drive enough Whites to some form of protecting their collective interests…then maybe we don’t deserve to survive. If our tribe is that spiritually dead…or so pathetically protective of what little comforts they have left…then let’s find that out now rather than later. Then the rest of us will know where we stand.
I think the energy at the next few rallies will tell the story.
it will also show just how organized are the Antifa people, if they can keep taking their act to the various stops on the road. And also keep up their energy.
we will see if Trump can tire them out or if he even has it in him. I wouldn’t be surprised also if Trump is playing possum a little and acting beaten down.
we shall see.
The complete lack of violence and mayhem in Tulsa may encourage greater turnouts in future rallies. Also, silly though it undoubtedly is, the KOVID spike in Oklahoma doubtless deterred many older Trump supporters from attending. The Donald had a lot going against him last night. But he’s been the underdog for the last five years, so he’s used to it.
1/3 of a stadium isn’t that bad really. How much did Biden get?
I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special. And at that point it did really seem that the left was demoralized after watching Trump beat all the odds.
But that’s it, unfortunately. He’s bungled everything up ever since then. At this point, getting excited for Trump or a Trump re-election is like getting excited for an upcoming 8-8 season in the NFL with a 2nd-rate quarterback. There’s nothing to look forward to.
I actually think his greatest achievement was his candidacy. The energy and fun we had in 2015-2016 was something special.
But was that Trump’s achievement, or did Trump merely ride the tiger?
Trump woke up the tiger, maybe accidentally. But his personality and willingness to wack the other GOP candidates around was key to waking us up. A Jared Taylor type could never have done that. Now that we are awake, hopefully we can grow up a little and accept serious if boring leaders as is normal for us, as long as we are able to keep him focused on being on our side.
No he had genuine moments. Plus, contrast him with jeb!
Trump 2016 was a legitimate accomplishment. He was the only person who could have gotten off the mat after pussygate.
He was the most populist Republican since TR, and if he’d governed that way he’d be on cruise control to a second term.
Personally, endorphin highs of 2016 have long worn off for me. He couldn’t have governed that way, the poz is everywhere so it would have taken a actual revolution. Cheeto-face was always just a carnival barker. And reluctantly — coming from one — a boomer. It will take a different generation — not sure which — for anything to happen.
I don’t buy that. For example, he could have rescinded the DACA EO. Instead, he used it to prove he cared more about illegal invaders than the Democrats. Sure, the Left would have gone to court, but he could have responded with a new EO every week that the Left would have to take to court. This is what the Left does on guns. They keep passing the same laws despite the courts knocking them down.
Trump could have been much better, but he never even tried.
Sure. Except that it’s pretty clear that Trump had no idea what he was going to be up against, or how to exactly to fight it. IRC it was you who pointed out that a sane establishment would have coopted Trump by giving him a few PR victories and then doing what it wanted to behind the scenes. Which would have worked because I don’t think he has any core beliefs and just wanted to be president for the ego stroking. It’s telling that the establishment couldn’t bring themselves to do even that. It’s even more telling that his response… Read more »
What’s the difference? Prior President rode the tiger after a fashion as well. He was an AA candidate, of zero accomplishment, groomed his entire life for political ascendency.
There’s a reason why no one else “rode that tiger”.
Boy, there’s a bitter pill to swallow on Father’s Day! I, like a lot of others had at least relatively high hopes for Trump but it’s pretty tough at this late date to get fired up about much of anything. He’s surely a whole lot of bark and very little bite. One thing he has done for me: my hatred of the left – in all its various permutations – knows no bounds. There is no fate that would be beyond the pale for those bastards. I just hope I’m around long enough to see some of the just retribution.
On the individual level I see the Trump delaying action playing out with increasing frequency. The anarcho-tyranny of BLM/Antifa is penetrating deeper into the lives of the slumbering masses but there is nowhere for them to plant those seeds. Orange man bad and orange man lowest black unemployment leaves them in a dark alley with nowhere to go. Just yesterday a super lefty acquaintance was all worked up because her yoga studio got cancelled by a couple of rabid sjw lgbtpocs. All those freaks had to do was facebook post about how the owner had made them feel unwelcome. The… Read more »
Wow. That made my heart leap with hope. We don’t need to sell them- they need to sell themselves.
Here’s a very short, fun bit of why we may be blessed in full measure to live in historic times– a possible replay, and a rather Indo-European Fathers Day to our ancestors:
https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251
(Update: woops, touch the vid tweet itself for the fun comments. The ones on that^ page are irredeemably racist.)
https://mobile.twitter.com/OakGwove/status/1274422678569525251
So the one thing that the Trumpians tout as the thing that will turn the tide—the overwhelming enthusiasm of his base—turns out to be non-existent.
A bit premature after only one rally.
One rally during riots and a purportedly deadly epidemic still with far greater turnout that Biden got does not indicate a massive lack of enthusiasm among a naturally conservative and cautious lot.
Don’t get me wrong, enthusiasm is down but Trump is not out.
Zman wrote, “Even the dumbest white people are starting to realize that the police are there to protect the Left and their masters.
Bingo, ZMan!… 98% of the right moronically has “cop love” and believes cops are their saviors. Asinine. Antafifa are the government’s shock troops and the police are Antafifa’s body guards.
When it goes down George Soro’s police will be the ones cracking the law-abiding’s skulls. The war will be George Soro’s police and George Soro’s military with a few soy-boys and browns thrown in against the free whites.
When it gets real and you’ve lost friends and family, Antafifa will go down like files… at your pleasure fast as you can switch mags. But when the USSA Red Gov sees their soy-boys going down, then it will be on. You’ll have every cop within 100 miles and several attack helicopters and MRAPs putting a dent in the party.
You mark these words, you dimwitted on the right. Antifafa can be brushed aside. But who’s going to gleefully crack your skull? Who?
I think the whole cops-as-enemies meme is wildly overblown. In Minneapolis, NY and Seattle, yes. In Tulsa, Wichita and Omaha, no. And rural law enforcement dam’ sure isn’t going to side with ANTIFAG and BM.
And when Uncle Sam pulls those rural PD’s funding?
He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
Not really true among younger people. Orange County had a pro cop rally , and I doubt there was anyone under AARP age there. And Conservative younger people do have time with the economy and all they just lack the interest. Even our side is a little NWA was Right these days. And while as always I suggest lawful actions only and trying to prevent this, if it goes hot, we won’t be fighting in the streets. We’ll be fighting a dirty war against anyone supporting the other side in any way, the softer the target the better. Its also… Read more »
Biden is unaware but how much is Trump actually aware of? He’s always been a touchy-feely guy because that’s what he reacts to. Others have always ironed out the details in the backroom once he’s completed his performance art. If the throngs are cheering he’s contented. If not he’s all ears to his handlers who control his world view… He’s surrounded by people who would not be out of place in a Hillary or Jeb cabinet. His right fringe is Rush and Hannity. For Trump Tucker is now little more than the embers of a dying fire at summer camp…it… Read more »
Reminds me of the euthanasia scene in Soylent Green. One day of comfort and real food, a movie of beautiful scenes- of what was lost, plays on the big screen as they drift off. Of course they will become the soylent green themselves (“its people!”) to literally feed the illusion of hope and propagate the lie.
Thanks for ruining the movie for me.
I first saw Soylent Green at the drive-in as a kid. Didn’t see it again til about 45 years later.
Astonishingly good- I don’t think anything could ruin such prescience.
(“Who are you?”… “Furniture.”)
It takes brass cajones to step up, fight and die and they are rare among people. Most whites including the DR types will not.
And make no mistake we will not achieve anything without a lot of bloodshed because everyone else wants the brass ring as well.
It will make CW1 look like a picnic.
As a group We aren’t blank slates. Somewhere buried within us is a drive for self preservation. Is it so deeply buried that it never surfaces in enough of us…or will it erupt and as you say…make CW1 look like a picnic?
Our enemies have turned up the heat and will continue to do so. We about to learn a lot more about our tribe or what’s left of it.
I am actually willing to fight and die. But I won’t do it alone or gratuitously. I must be convinced my actions will contribute materially to Our Thing. This requires leadership and I don’t see evidence we have it at an operational level. An isolated McVeigh-type incident invariably produces a counter-reaction that undermines attainment of the objective. Show me the leadership, help me join or form the cell. Mirage.
At this point, the left is so ascendant and has its hands on so many levers, and has so thoroughly ingrained its values into the minds of almost every single American that regardless of whether Trump was a set up for us we probably should consider him a liability. In fact, that probably explains Trumps behavior: most people swim in leftist water, they dont even consider that there is an alternative other than some nebulous concept that the alternative is pure genocidal evil. This is going to sound defeatest but i have mulled this over for a long time and… Read more »
You are probably right, Irish Farmer. It usually is a big mistake to rely on one person, especially one as flawed as Trump. The left achieved its dominant position after decades of working through institutions that now even include the military and big corporations. The dissident right is now in such a hole that will require decades of effort to dig itself out.
Jared and Ivanka would certainly like for us to vote for Trump again, but we would be stupid to do so. We can be forgiven for believing and hoping the first time, but he’s older and weaker now. If he wins, he’s handing the reins to them (more obviously than he already has) and taking the easy path, while setting his progeny up for possible power. I never really liked him, but voting for Hillary was unthinkable. Voting for Jvanka is equally or maybe more galling. Bottom line: He didn’t fight for us this term when he was facing another… Read more »
Since I am one of the resident pessimists, I must nod my head in agreement. If I were a young man (I’m not, I’m 58), and single etc. I would seriously consider if moving to another country is the answer. But I don’t think there is anywhere in the world that will escape whatever’s coming. That said, if you have family ties in a stable, not to say affluent, country, you might weigh your options. In my lifetime I’ve seen some of this happen: first they will impose exchange controls (you won’t be able to take your money out), until… Read more »
Perhaps one day we will have made our own thing we dont have to flee from. I believe it will happen, even if i only live long enough to see the seeds planted.
But we will get there.
Eastern Europe and Russia.
We have to destroy it to save it. /s
Sulla?
Excellent reference Ostei.
I swear that left-wing journalist made that up. “Some unnamed captain” my ass.
So tiresome. Yes , JVanka is a blight. Trump disappoints and doesn’t follow through on his promises, etc. blah blah blah. WTF is the option? I am still waiting for an election Doomer to give me an answer. Their response might be “Oh, we will elect Biden and the obese toad from Georgia as his VP and then things will really accelerate downhill but lead towards our final victory!!!” We didn’t get comprehensive amnesty under Trump. That alone makes it re-electable. We didn’t get any more wars under Trump. The rally was fine last night. The Tulsa mayor scare people… Read more »
You are suffering from battered wife syndrome. Your man did not slap you around as hard as usual, so that’s proof he really loves you.In this case, Trump could have slapped you around more, but he let keep some of your teeth, so it’s all good.
You have a better option?
And also, I never ask bloggers to post links but in the case of Pascale, is there any reference to him being an HRC supporter? My searches all show him working Trump in 16.
You: I plan to jump off this cliff.
Me: That’s a bad idea.
You: Do you have a better option?
With due respect (and I mean it), you seem to be getting a touch of the TDS, Zdude. I get it, but just don’t get blackpilled, man.
It’s better to accelerate the inevitable than to permit the oligarchs to reform stronger than ever. Our Thing is better off with Biden/Abrams this January than what will be served up after another four years of The Golfing Dorito Finger. Those whom can be converted to our cause may not come over at all if they age the four years, instead, when their neighborhood burns and their kids are completely corrupted under open progressive rule, we can acquire a critical mass with the converts aboard.
ZMan wrote, “…so going to an event like this means running a gauntlet of protesters, while the cops cheer it on.”
Excellent, ZMan, thank you. Thank you for speaking this critical truth that the dimwit right still doesn’t get
Remember San Jose in 2016 when the La Raza mayor and police chief funneled unarmed Trump supporters right through the rage mob. Trump and Sessions did absolutely nothing. I never heard them even mention it. Do you think if a Republican mayor and police chief did a similar thing to Obama supporters Loretta Lynch and the DOJ would let that pass? If Trump and Sessions had legally curb stomped those San Jose officials like they should have a lot of this stupidness we are seeing today would not be going on.
Yesterday, I read Lawrence Austers’ “The Path to National Suicide: An Essay on Immigration and Multiculturalism ” I got to say, I had the most surreal feeling reading that while all the statues were toppling. Anyway I think it’s time to get rid of trump. Let’s go ahead and get this show on the road. The existential threat that white people are facing won’t be realized until it gets a little more obvious. Some of the white people are going to sacrifice themselves and that’s fine, they’ll be in the front lines and they’ll be cut down first but seeing… Read more »
The BBC: “Meanwhile, in yesterday’s largely peaceful stabbings…”
That’s a fantastic essay, right up there with the Enoch Powell “River of Blood” speech, or the book “Camp of the Saints.”
I encourage owning hard copies of each..the burning of books is right around the corner. I call it my “Forbidden Books Bookshelf” (which surprisingly has gone up considerably in value as publishers signal they won’t dare publish bad think like Camp of the Saints again).
No candidate, vote, policy or awakening is going to change the vector this country is on. Despair, however is a sin. No one can control what’s going on in your own head.
It is good. I bought it hard copy. $127 that was kind of pricey for an essay but it was worth it. And I tried to buy the camp of saints but it has actually gone out of my price range since he died. My entire library is the philosophy history, knowledge, and religion of our people. I feel like I’m building it for someone else. I’m not sure who.
Nevermind, it was only $55 Now it feels like a bargain! I have a huge collection of out-of-print books
I’ve been going back & forth about this in my mind. I’m starting to lean towards a Biden vote because why draw out the misery any longer? It is very clear that your average white american is a complete fucking retard with no understanding of well… anything. History, racial IQ, who actually makes the trains run on time / delivers the food / electricity / etc, what the actual function of government is, what happens historically when you put black people in charge, who invented nearly every single item they use & interact with on a daily basis. So that… Read more »
White women being afraid may be one possible but limited solution. I doubt the average white is a retard. But concerning race, he, she and it certainly acts like one. Much of the problem probably comes from our elites and their institutions. This is far beyond Trump. Most people do not have the time, energy or inclination to think critically or philosophize. In fact, it is much more psychologically easy to believe. We rely on the elites. Elites are necessary but they can be extremely harmful and even dangerous. Just look at WWI. Just look at the U.S. now.
“What is the one thing that will cause the tides to shift? White women being afraid.”
And they’ll suddenly discover a sincere desire to have homes and children again.
I’m living proof- a Boomer, son of a WWll vet.
You should have called this post “Black Pill Sunday.” Trump is neither the problem, nor the solution. And the current social dynamics are the result of a last spasm of resistance from the Deep State prior to Durham’s indictments. Expect lots of fireworks from the 4th of July onward til November. Ancient wisdom, use this time to find safe haven and improve your robustness. We may yet live to see the beginning of the rebound.
Speaking of “social dynamics”:
2016 was the Twitter election. Trump played that hand masterfully.
2020 may well be the Tik Tock election; Trump was tolled very hard in Tulsa.
A $1 per ticket fee, payable by traceable credit card would fix the mischief from last nights rally numbers.
But the real point is the engines of persuasion have moved on from Twitter, and on to newer platforms that frankly, old people like me don’t care about and don’t want to. It’s weaponized visual persuasion,as powerful as it is shallow.
The fact the Brad Parscale fell for a troll that was so simple and transparent shows what intellectually vapid bullshitters guys are. It was something a junior high kid would be able to see a mile away.
There was zero cleverness necessary to pull it off.
Four years ago, our Zoomers were the ones pulling off that troll.
And the current social dynamics are the result of a last spasm of resistance from the Deep State prior to Durham’s indictments. Expect lots of fireworks from the 4th of July onward til November I think you got lost on the way here. You are looking for breitbart.com comments section thatta way—> You got it man Q was right all along there will be a TOTAL round up of hundreds, no thousands of deep state critters to celebrate the 4th of July this year. And Trump will lead the charge on a white horse shouting Deus Vult! as he rides… Read more »
“It would be cynical and dishonest, but it would probably work to re-energize his campaign.”
In other words, ops normal.
ZMan, you hit this one out of the park. This is one of your very best works. You nailed it. Excellent… brilliant… enlightened.
It is hard to take but Trump really is the dog finally catching up to the car it chases. What to do now?
Many always agree that are our great problems aren’t going to be solved politically. Capture the culture first. Does it look like that will ever remotely happen?
No. We cannot capture what passes for a culture. We must capture territory and establish culture within it.
In many ways, the failure of Trump’s presidency was inevitable. His election may have been a massive grift or, more charitably, a marketing success. Whether he was simply unable or never intended to follow through with his many election promises is irrelevant, it’s the marketing that was important. What’s important now is not what Trump can or cannot do. What is important is what follows Trump. I think, and I may be wrong, that the most likely outcome will be some kind of dictatorship possibly accompanied by active persecution of the regime’s enemies. The dissident right will be among those… Read more »
Stupid auto correct: Only those who are now young will see the end of the drama
I thought the same way. Now i’m not so sure. I do know that i’ve become to feel shame that i might leave this mess to my children to clean.
We should clean up our own mess, I agree, and leave our heirs an inspiring example like our mums and dads in the Depression and WWll.
Trust the genes-
Sidvic: ‘hill tribes are watching intently’
vxxc: Let it be now.
Anne Barnhardt said Trump was a particular type of grifter (not for money but fame for the Trump name) from day one. She may well be proved right. Conservatives are complete failures who couldn’t even conserve the ladies’ room. Cucks and grifters all. As for the “two parties” in Murika: That’s a con-job as well. You have the D-Jerseys (NY Globetrotters – Pedocrats) and the R-Jerseys (Washington Generals Gay Old Pedobears) playing an utterly scripted fake game to waste the time and energy of the idiots being enslaved. Trump won in 2016 by pretending to be something different. Guess he… Read more »
Here is an essay I wrote yesterday. A bit long, but somewhat releated to today’s postings. You Won A still fictional letter of surrender to the forces of Wokeness, the social justice warriors, whatever you wish to call them. From a spokesman (we still use sexist terms here) from the vanquished evil white race. Let’s pretend you’ve won. In fact you haven’t yet, but factors seem to be in your favor. Not the least is the below-replacement birth rates. Not only of Whites, but even Afro-Americans — one of your core constituencies. Not only in the USA, but also Europe… Read more »
We’re about the same age. I’m a few years older. We’ve lived through most of your narrative. They ask, demand, loot and burn…and at every turn we gave up something asking for nothing in return. Again and again and again. Our enemies are who they are and they pursue their interests. We sacrificed our great great grandfathers in the 1860s and with only a few exceptions have sacrificed every generation of Whites ever since. This is the worst part of it all. We have become so conditioned to self effacement at so great a cost to ourselves and to that… Read more »
Fwiw I heard they stopped allowing people into the rally. Haven’t bothered to confirm that. Was listening to the rally and Trump even admitted he was only giving an OK speech. Interesting.
Yes, Tulsa’s Health Department at least partially sabotaged attendance on KOVID grounds.
I listened to MSNBC.
Forgive the 4D Chess, but was Trump lulling the enemy, goading them to keep exposing themselves?
I don’t think so. I think he was simply taken by surprise by enemy tactics. He and his team will learn from this.
I agree with the article, but I’m still going to vote for him. The alternative is worse and Trump does provide some good comedy and he really gets under the skin of all the right people.
BLM is not going to stop if Biden wins. BLM was rioting across the nation in the Obama years. Antifa and BLM existed before Trump. The media is not going to stop hating whites, nor will the brown hordes or the elite. Things are most certainly not going to get better by getting worse. That’s just a cope.
Is the alternative worse? That’s one of those assumptions right-wing people have been conditioned to repeat so they shut down their minds, but is it true? Was Clinton worse than either Bush? Was Obama worse than Bush? By any measure, both Bushes were disasters for white people and conservatives.
The point is, let’s not juts assume Dementia Joe is worse than Trump. He may not be.
Yeah and people keep saying that things got worse for black people when Obama got elected. Maybe the best plan is to vote for the person that you think would hurt you
It certainly seems that way. What’s clear is voting Republican is not the answer.
Zman’s homework assignment: Write a post on why we should vote for Biden.
Blacks don’t vote according to whether they are better or worse off than four years ago. They vote according to habit, how best to stick it to YT, and for who promises the most gibs.
Your last 2 sentences are the goofiest thing I’ve read in a loooong time.
Sure, Zman… let’s give Sleepy Joe and Kamala a chance.
I mean, what could go wrong? Sure, you will be outed and unemployable, as will everyone commenting here, but beyond that, Biden might be Okey Dokey!
How would that be different from the last four years?
At least the Democrats fully own the anti-White system at that point
depends how we define worse. if worse is measured only in shorter increments of time, Trump is way better than Obama. I was getting seriously down and depressed under Obama in those last couple years. I think the spike in small business owner sentiment is a reflection or a proxy for the emotional state of regular white people. Life improved dramatically for me and many others with tangible improvements for me financially and many others. But if worse is measured against a generational time frame, or as it pertains to the larger cause of white betterment, then, yes, I think… Read more »
The MAGA vs dissident divide is an interesting one. Pro-MAGA folk don’t seem to grasp that the Red team and Blue team are the selfsame team. I’m fond of the pro-MAGA folk, just as I’m fond of my grandson’s faith in Santa Claus. But in 2024 my grandson will understand objective reality, while Mr. FoxNews will go all-in for Josh Hawley in 2024.
At bare minimum, Trump’s tax cuts benefitted me.
No, it’ll be that insufferable twit from South Carolina. Not Graham, different one. The sacred hindu cow of our new vibrant majority.
“How would that be different from the last four years?”
You’ll probably be seeing the difference in due course.
Isn’t this just the same old Conservative Inc. scam? “Look fellers. We are terrible and we fucked you six ways to Sunday, but those dastardly liberals will be much worse!” It’s just another argument for not changing anything, while expecting something to change.
I’m finally seeing daylight, after hammer blows since Clinton’s first reign. I missed all the uptake, can’t get it back, but I’ve got my best chance right now under Trump to at least get my feet under me.
Not mad at Trump: I’m mad at myself. I believed far too much of the CivNat poz and allowed this to happen. I trusted the Jew.
Haley is the Ilhan Omar for Conservatives.
I would be interested to read a prediction post regarding a Biden administration.
Change can take many forms. Changing politics is just one venue of opportunity. You can also change your methodology for influencing politics. Right now, the Left is using it’s useful idiots to engage in lukewarm violence in order to proactively alter the upcoming election. They are stuck on lukewarm because they have no Alphas. But there are still lots of Alphas in the wild. Which team do you want to bet on?
Believe me, I want things to change and I’ve long since given up hope that the Republicans or Conservative Inc. would ever make it happen. All I say is, it will be worse under the Democrats, including much worse trying to organize a meaningful third-force opposition.
Is this Father’s Day or April Fool’s Day?
Trump is one chapter in what HAS become a long saga.
Fixed that for you:)
We want it to become unbearable and inescapable sooner rather than later. Nothing on our side will coalesce until there is no other option. We need the fires to burn now.
Sure, you will be outed and unemployable, as will everyone commenting here, This is happening right now and Trump is fiddling like Nero. What is it like to live a life ruled by fear and uncertainty? I’m not familiar with it because I have -already- been outed and am unemployable and had the badge orcs pointing guns at me. Yet here I am. You strategy is to just hold on a little while longer hoping they will eat you last right? You sound like a white leftist when you posit this, just FYI. What is coming is coming whether you… Read more »
The alternative is worse emotionally for me. Trump makes life a little more bearable. It’s like at least getting to hear the radio station I like while attending a mostly black high school. The alternative is something like Hillary which is like the worst radio station on top of all the bullshit. I would probably kill myself. Just kidding, but trying to make a point. I understand the shallowness of this, but I am sure I’m not very different from a lot of people. Four years of my life is a pretty significant chunk of it, so if I can… Read more »
That’s an excellent point. The president, strangely enough, is part of our aesthetic and psychological environment. And aesthetics and the psyche are profoundly important things.
I remember how interminable the Obama administration was. How it just dragged on and on. Despite the disappointments with Trump, the last for years have flown by for me.
But if Dementia Joe is merely a catspaw for the truly radical AWRs?
I think he is a useful skin suit for the inner party. If he wins, look for the mobs to disappear, Covid to disappear, the GOP to purge anyone connected with Trump, the FBI/CIA scandal to be broomed and so on. The inner party will be celebrating like it is 2008, but it will be a rush to stasis. For the inner party, those mobs are just pieces on the chess board that can be easily sacrificed.
If the mobs and Covid disappear, that’s a huge step to making the average person’s life better.
why are we defending an orange fraud who has delivered zero for us??
On the contrary, if Joe wins, it will be all Pol Pot all the time. Because that is the Inner Party. Jello Biafra may be many things, but he had their number in the late 1970s. And nothing changed. Jerry Brown, subject of California Uber Alles, is now … RETIRED. The people running things will be: Susan Rice, the BEAST from 20,000 Fathoms, Biden’s coke-head son, and his idiot wife. HILLARY was the candidate of Malibu and the Hamptons, and those types are not in it for Pol Pot. Susan Rice? Stacey Abrams? That’s the danger of the Biden Presidency.… Read more »
Maybe, but we always get these warnings after the so-called conservatives just adopted the latest left-wing program. “Look fellas. We may have done all the things we warned the Left was going to do, but this time it is different.” It’s never different. Vote Republican, get what the Democrats promise.
>the GOP to purge anyone connected with Trump
If Trump is humiliated, then maybe dropping in on the first county-level party meeting of 2021 might not be a bad idea. Especially if Limbaugh is in the ground by then.
The copes will almost certainly be a re-hash of the 2012 autopsy, along with the “Trump wasn’t a real conservative” bit.
There may be a certain number of people who are open to new ideas. A short, well-prepared yet upbeat “Conservatism Is Dead” talk might find an audience, if there is anyone under say 60 present.
Biden’s purpose is to lull people into thinking that a 2020 Democrat win will calm things down. People assume old mellow Joe will nod away lazy afternoons in the White House and we can live our lives unmolested by the white haters. Trouble is, Biden will be in a memory care home a year after he’s elected and we’ll have a fire breather like Kamala Harris in office. The crackdown on palefaces under her will be worse than under Obama.
Locally, Z, I’ve seen indications the feral black contingent is not controllable and Antifa types are breaking from the Establishment that has bankrolled them. If the Uniparty can rein in their thugs and cool down the pseudo-revolution they sponsor, Biden wins in a walk. If, as I suspect, there are elements who refuse to tamp it down, Biden loses narrowly. I think it doesn’t matter what either Biden or Trump does at this point. The rioters will call the shots. ETA: Exactly right about Biden. The United States will have a regency if he wins. The man is a figurehead/Pied… Read more »
Friday night I was discussing this very topic with a good friend of mine. He agrees with you. My counterargument, however, is that now that the Free Shit Army has the taste of blood in its mouth, it won’t go quietly into that good night. I do not believe, in other words, that TPTB will be able to control the evil djinn they have released. What’s more, various malicious maniacs such as Maxine Waters, Eric Holder and that Castro A-hole, will seek to inflame the mob further. We’re in for serious conflict, one way or the other.
That means a slow genocide for whites because they will not do anything they aren;t already doing which is nothing.
Stasis = death for whites both culturally and people wise.
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Bring it, mofos
I want my revenge
Dementia Joe will simply be a figurehead who lets the people who hate you really run amok. He will be in a memory care home a year after he’s elected and his VP will be running things. You’ll find out what worse is when the federal government led by somebody like Kamala Harris starts slapping honkeys around. You think you have to operate underground now. Get a bigger shovel
Yeah. There’s that. Can’t argue with any of it.
I guess even the most cynical people like me try to keep hope alive, even if the hope is pretty false. The recent SCOTUS decisions are a huge black pill. We can’t even pretend the courts are important.
I respect that. I’m actually quite optimistic, just not about the current system or the people in it.
Trump has never been anything more than a self-inflated con artist. He knows how to stoke the crowd with bombastic rhetoric, but he never delivers actual value.
Bring on President Stacey Abrams! If that doesn’t awaken the sleeping White beast, nothing will.
I think the beast is awake. The problem is the beast isn’t as big as we had at first imagined. A tough pill to swallow perhaps. But Maybe we’re it. We’re the beast and have to start figuring out how to make ourselves heard and feared.
I live in NYC, the belly of the infernal Beast, and I can tell you a silent majority does exist, and surprisingly includes more than a few Asians and Hispanics.
People want stability and order, not rioting and race baiting.
I know many immigrants from the Balkans, Russia, and a few from China and Korea, and they don’t like this shit AT ALL. They are not hiding their disgust and fear over where this could all go, and these are folks who know full well what totalitarianism looks like, as well as large scale ethnic warfare.
I hear ya, but I was referring to the sleeping white beast, not the electoral majority.
as far as the mythical white beast that one day will awaken from his slumber, I think the beast is already awake and that beast is us. this is as big as it gets.
give it time. it is still early. my hill tribes at watching intently. Could be wrong, but i do not believe they will bend the knee.
And I think it’s old
the moment a white person agreed to take orders from a black, be it a coach or a military superior or whatever, they bended the knee I stopped playing sports because of it. I just couldn’t listen to a black person. It wasn’t mean, it was just instinctively I didn’t respect and trust them. And here I am today on the dissident right. Not many people shared my opinions, or if if they did they didn’t let it change their plans. But maybe I’m wrong on that. Maybe a lot of people did tolerate that black coach or that military… Read more »
Nothing is awake on our side right now. It’s pure REM sleep. Maybe one day.
Yep. This shit isn’t what most immigrants, legal or otherwise, bargained for when they came to the US. In fact, we’re rapidly approaching the point where America may be a net exporter of people. It’s getting that bad.
If my family knew I would have to take orders from Africans, they wouldn’t have moved here
America seduced a lot of people with a ponzi scheme of fleeting wealth
Hence my earlier suggestion to consider foreign countries. I’m not up-to-date, but there usually are plenty of smaller right-wing authoritarian countries where Whites (not to rule out Asians or other races tho) control the government, even if they are a minority. Often foreigners are tolerated at least, as residents, especially if they bring money, give some jobs to the locals etc. Just hiring a maid & gardener is within your budget if you have a pension or other income. I’d looked into this, Mexico or maybe Panama years ago, but I’m stuck in Florida with a home, a car payment… Read more »
The non-whites are angrier about the disruptions than whites.
I live in a part of Toronto that’s <40% white. The BLM protesters are always blacks, and young white women. The Asian/Indian majority has no interest in either blacks or whites. If things did get unruly here swift collective action would be taken to pressure local authorities to restore order. Be it BLM or white nat. uprisings.
Hard to know what to do when the majority of our own people won’t take our own side.
We are the beast, but the vast, vast majority of beasties have never heard of Z-Man.
then they have beast like qualities but not beast like ears 😉
We’re already hated. We’re not feared. However, in order to be feared, we first have to be effective.
The pickanniny running the plantation house would be even more perfect than street ho Harris.
It’s not a matter of them awakening them, it’s s a matter of what they are going to do.
Z predicts with a Biden win, things will be a continuation of Obama’s reign. If that’s that case, whites won’t do anything. It will be a slow genocide for whites.
We either spicy smart or die.
Trump rallies are the CivNat Ghost Dance.
Did he mention record black employment this time?
I am not very political but hated hillary and liked that trump was causing mayhem in DC. So I voted for him. I am not really sure if I ever even believed half the stuff he was promising. I live in California, and part of me was thinking it would be great if illegals were all sent home, but that means all of those apartment owners and everyone else set to lose lots of money and Trump couldn’t risk it. But in 2016 I remember telling my dad, who reminds me of trump and was on the bandwagon, that Trump… Read more »
I think they had to goose the crowd with electric cattle prods to make them cheer when he mentioned Black Achievements for the 600th time.
The tired hesitation was, ahem, noticeable.
Too bad they didn’t boo lustily.
If they were prepared to do that, they wouldn’t be at a Trump rally
As Zman notes alot could happen in the next 3-4 months. I think we are surrounded and the situation is dire. Good! Darkest before the dawn and all the other cliches. We are one massacre away from big changes. Currently a man cannot operate in this society with dignity. Hopefully the men are begining to notice. I to have my doubts about Trump (putting it mildly) but he is probaly the the luckiest SOB in history. He is positioned to have a chance to go down as one of the greats in history. Perhaps i am feverishly optimistic but i… Read more »
I predict a Kievan Maidan, where snipers shoot into a woke crowd- and we get the blame.
It’s in the Wiemar playbook.
Weimar? LOL! No need to go that for back. ‘White supremacists’ did Minnesota dontcha know? And they collared a couple in Las Vegas and UK. The full force & assets of the alphabet agencies are being deployed to ferret out all these hideous supremacists that are causing all this violence at the peaceful protests man. Expect it to really go into high gear when they start sniping the crowds as you said. Alphabet agencies have a long history of setting up stooges for this type of work.
Not only should you not envy them you should be full of rage that they were hoodwinked into fighting brother wars spilling European blood so that skinsuit wearing lizard bankers / industrialists could continue to operate across both continents with impunity. If anyone really knew the machinations that went on behind the scenes of both World Wars there wouldn’t be enough lampposts to support the full weight of it all. We backed the wrong side…
Trump wasn’t a planned Manchurian candidate. The establishment didn’t decide to run a phony populist. They hated him and took three years to trust him. They began to trust him because around year two they found out he was full of sh it and really believed in nothing but himself. If anything he’s our first entirely nihilist President. Even more so than Obama. I saw the clown show yesterday and it was a pancake makeup wearing old man on a used car lot trying to sell the worst lemon to someone who already bought a lemon from him four years… Read more »
It really the perfect poetic end. Shades of the last days of the Hapsburgs
Yes!
For a man who’s supposedly aiding and abetting the AWRs, they sure as hell do want him gone.
I was confused by this for a long time. It wasn’t trump they hated but fact that the white working class elected him against thier wishes. They still show a bit of spirit. Also note that the only ones standing up to the protesters, and it ain’t alot of them, look scruffy as hell. that’s my beloved white working class.
My hillbillies haven’t weighed in yet. I watch acutely. I really hope they don’t cuck.
their hatred of us was always like an ambient light whose heat was growing in intensity. Trump was like the magnifying glass that allowed the light to focus on its target with burning precision. And now the left are all walking around with magnifying glasses provided them by the lunatics.
Yeah, but make no mistake, we are the ones they hate.
One important positive about Trump is that he’s a true, proud, unapologetic white man. Early in his tenure he defended Western civilization and made many politically incorrect remarks (viz African shitholes), and while he may not attack the AWRs as forcefully as he should, he’s not about to kiss Hutu feet and shine their Stacy Adams. Trump is a white man’s white man. He’s a throwback in that regard, and I think that is the main reason the AWRs hate him so much. White men are supposed to be weak, humble and hangdog. Trump is none of that.
Anti-White Racists, folks
If only we would reflexively jump to defend our own, no matter what he’s done, as they do theirs.
(Interesting conspiracy bit on Chauvin- somebody’s posting pics comparing neighbor Chauvin A to killer Chauvin B- the low, slungback ears of B are distinctly different. That’s the fellow white tell that can’t be hidden.)
The lesson here is that we must not permit our judgment to be clouded or occluded by emotions. Anger, despair and rage are enemies to be avoided.
Now is the time for clear, cold thinking. Hate is good but only if properly channeled, controlled and directed. Hate and fury must become our servants, not our masters.
This war is not over. In fact, it has not even really begun.
The war is over. It was over the moment “conservatives” accepted the Left’s moral framework.
If the war is over, then what are we doing here? Why is zman bothering?
we’re here because we are the last men standing
This is our team, the players we have to work with
We are the ones who bothered to show up
No one else is going to be coming to our games to see us play until we give them something they want to see and can get behind. And we have to figure out what that is. And sure, maybe in time we will be getting some of the big name fancy recruits. But for nw we are the Bad News Bears
“we’re here because we are the last men standing
This is our team, the players we have to work with..”
Then the war is not over.
Not even close
Falcone, Perhaps your defeatist tone is unintentional. If it is, some encouragement. We, Our White People, are just beginning to wake up. This is far from over. The suck is just beginning. BUT, we will come through this valley, en force. I was mildly aware months ago what was happening. The clues were financial indicators that shook me from my hamster wheel. I trusted what I was smelling, seeing and hearing, and began to make huge changes to prepare for what was obviously a Depression. Now, I see the war coming is much larger and more dangerous (starving feels less… Read more »
I am not defeatist at all. My apologies if it comes off that way.
Rather, I am trying to express my opinion that we be proud of being here and part of a small select group and let’s recognize we are the only ones here right now so let’s work with what we have and get moving
I think that is exciting as hell.
That would have been when? 1913?
There’s a lot of ruin in a society…but 1945 seems as good a starting point as any
We have not yet begun to fight. But we will soon. We had better…
We have reached the point where it will be easier to build something new than save the old
Where’s our Mosely, our Enoch Powell?
Mosely and Powell were both trying to save Ancien Regimes.
Exactly, MWV. The expanse of the United States makes it a far better candidate for dissolution.
Mosely!? Let’s scare the normies off by shilling for a wannabee Hitler.
Powell, yes, but Mosely?
Jaysus wept.
“Law and Order” is the way to go. Nixon ’68 and especially ’72 — McGovern was such an inept candidate that Richard Nixon, the guy who was actually running the war at the time, somehow outflanked him as a peacenik. Joe Biden makes McGovern look like Solon. But at this point, it’s pretty hard to give a shit — it’s clear we’re on our own; the faster we own it, the faster we can get the inevitable horrors over with.
The problem is, back in those days, even the Democrats in power dug law and order. Mayor Daley (D) was cracking hippie heads in 1968 Chicago. Today, we’ve got the Not So Secret Six inviting modern day John Browns to kill Whitey, and it’s off to the gulag if you dare resist.
Maybe the perfect wake-up call for whitey is about a thousand more videos of that Macy’s employee beating.
Whitey ain’t waking up. That’s magical thinking of the type Libertarians are fond of.
I disagree and I have seen the evidence with mine own eyes. For sure, not enough yet but think of where we were a month ago.
“His two great achievements are throwing open the prisons so violent blacks can prey on his voters…”
This really has been a tragedy. Both the GOP and Trump have trained their base to think like this…
https://twitter.com/gibsjuchegfpls/status/1274518113988440065
…only for that base to be treated like this once they return home:
https://twitter.com/1Fubar/status/1274286274979848192
“He has spent his entire time in office singing the praises of blacks, Hispanics and migrants, while never mentioning white people, the people who voted for him.” There was one single time he mentioned them without ever turning it into an opportunity. It was either a true slipped-through-the-hands moment, or he was instructed never to follow up on it: Toward the end of the Elijah Cummings-Baltimore-Shithole drama, Al Sharpton chose to throw his hat into the ring. Trump tweeted his disdain of Sharpton, and that tweet was forgettable except for the very last sentence: “[Al Sharpton] hates whites!” I distinctly… Read more »
Say what you will of Trump, he won’t seem so bad to yo wannabee founders of Honkeytopia when President Kamala Harris gets busy putting you in your place.
Kamala is nothing but a ho. Her only achievement in politics was spreading her legs on Willie Brown’s desk. She’s not smart enough to do sh it. She can try though.
You forget, it’s not just Kamala or somebody like her all by herself. She doesn’t have to be smart. She will have the enthusiastic support of the entire federal government for whatever it pleases her to do to you.
Have fun.
It’s a tricky situation for sure: Trump may be “less bad” than an actual negress holding the reins of power, but it’s possible that having an explicitly anti-white president helps mobilize and energize oppressed whitey. The opposition finally taking off its mask has galvanized whitey in the past month like nothing else, while 4 more years of Trump might just put us back into a “everything is fine for now; we have 4 more years to plan” slumber. As the Z Man said, “Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a third… Read more »
Perhaps the last American artist of the Right, H.P. Lovecraft described their current moment back in 1927:
“The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would become as the Great Old Ones, freed and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside, and all men shouting and killing and reveling in joy. And then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the Earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.”
The stars are right!
“Whether or not Trump does anything to save himself is an open question at this point, as he looks like a beaten man.” As an anarcho-capitalist I do try to refrain from voting, but I have found that I vote against people. I was not a fan of Trump but since Mrs. Clinton is a Satan stand-in as far as I am concerned, I voted Trump. I got banned from the treehouse place for mildly criticizing Trump bombing a middle east country based on obviously bogus information. It was a “he should have known better” comment and BLAM I was… Read more »
Ugh, a black pill. Z, your unflattering portrait of Trump sadly rings true. If he wins (again) it’ll be because he’s the lesser of two evils. I hope he continues his hands-off approach to the continuing riots. Don’t underestimate the value come fall, of looted, burnt-out ruins of stores or police stations. Who was really responsible will be obvious to most of the local voters. BLM-ers, Antifa, local Democrat collaborators will be higher on the blame list than Trump and “White Racism.” In fact, if I were him, I would send in relief supplies to the CHAZ/CHOP to actually let… Read more »
Zman: “Millions of white man hours were invested in Trump that could have gone to building a second party or building a legitimate alternative to the ruling class.” That’s true and depressing. Of course, Trump seemed like he might be a true badass during the campaign. So, he really was the horse we had to bet on. Like another tough talking Republican narcissist, (Arnold Schwarzenegger as California governor), I’d hoped Trump would realize there’s no way to drain the swamp or change this Pozzed nation. But with a maniacal grin, go gangbusters trying anyway. Just for the hell of it.… Read more »
Trump seemed to be a badass, but I always noted he had a weak chin. Not a strong proud and aggressive chin.
And those old stereotypes proved true.
A couple of observations from your inveterate Blackpiller, per Kevin Michael Grace. First, the Blackpill is good and healthy for you. It gets rid of hopium, which is worst drug of all. There is no, none, nada hope of victory but the real possibility of survival. Survival is possible and by giving up on fantasies of victory one can possibly survive, with lots of luck and planning. Second, it would have been better for Hillary not Trump to have won. In victory Madame Hillary might have shown some fatigue in pursuing BadWhites into the weeds to hunt down the last… Read more »
Yep, no denying the intensity of hatred and its positive electoral effects for the freed slaves
We need to counter it with an equal passion. I think it’s there but needs a focus. And I think part of the solution will be to admit that blacks are simply bad dishonorable people. Everyone knows it deep down. Any people that thrives in mayhem and criminal inner cities is not a good and decent people. Once people accept that premise, the contours of the future will begin taking shape
Framing blacks as simply evil is what needs to be done.
Agree with the Spanish. In a stunning turn of events, the Latin world will be more peaceful, prosperous, and stable than the Anglosphere.
Behold the civic orgasm that will be broadcast with stentorian obduracy sometime during 2021: the holy transubstantiation of the presidency when white Saint Biden resigns his office to a sacrosanct angry black woman VP. Karens will weep with joy. Unmasked, vibrant citizens will exercise with gratitude in shopping malls outside of normal business hours, lo, far across the land.
I watched the rally and was impressed by the crowd – the largest peaceful gathering in months and 99% not wearing masks. If anything I hope it set an example for the people cowering to Karens and the millions of others afraid to go to any social setting. Any other comparison is to pre-Covid is not pertinent, As for criticisms here, I just roll my eyes wondering who that perfect Z candidate is and how he would get elected. And then the carping I’d hear when the Z candidate did not do the perfect thing because he had to compromise… Read more »
Look how bored rallygoers were:
https://twitter.com/janemarielynch/status/1274512067119116289
What I saw of the police in Tulsa they did nothing to keep BLM/antifa goons away from the MAGApeeps. There is no way I’d attend a Trump rally given how indifferent the cops are
You’re also right his rallies are the thing of the past because of this and because his campaign manager can’t set up a decent website to filter out Dems jamming up the reservations.
That said, Trump came off as weak.
It could have been a lot worse – it looks like Tulsa narrowly avoided breaking out into race riots again (which, incidentally, the blacks instigated back in 1921 too), but the atmosphere was definitely tense and the MAGA crowd got a lot of abuse hurled at them. I got the unpleasant, scary impression that the Trump campaign used its base as actual cannon fodder*, and would not have done a thing to support its base had worse violence broken out. Trump would have scampered off in his helicopter as his supporters would have been lynched in the streets. *That partially… Read more »
Speaking of Tulsa, there’s a good digging into the truth behind the race riots here:
https://therightstuff.biz/2019/10/28/tds511-anti-citation-remarks/
Another solid post Zman and I agree with all of it except for the glaring addition of Jeff Sessions as someone you think is worth supporting. Sessions is a traitor that caved at the earliest sign of shitlib pressure and has shown 0 remorse for it. He had no duty to recuse but he did anyway, he had a duty to disclose to Trump that he would recuse, and even though his opponent is an open borders cuck, literally anyone deserves to be in power more than Sessions (despite his work on immigration). Even if Trump had wanted to MAGA,… Read more »
Rabbi Trump is starting to come out as another self-hating white. He can’t make a speech or statement without certifying himself as anti-racist. Instead of taking a firm stand against BLM / Antifa dementia, which could restore his cred with those who voted for him in 2016, he takes the soft option of sassing Biden’s dementia. Trump sounds like a deep-dyed egalitarian: he can’t take one position and hold it, because that would leave some people out. He has to be all things for all people. As in the old joke, “Go to it, wife! Go to it, bear!” As… Read more »
Trump always has looked a little too much like Sumner Redstone
Trump is a showman surrounded mainly by overt and covert enemies. If I walked in and saw all the empty seats at that rally I would have felt it was a bit of a dud also. A few sources say opposition bought up many seats that they never intended to use, so their plan achieved the intended deflation of enthusiasm. But I never thought that Trump is or was going to save anyone. He’s a mildly effective anti-accelerant. Don’t vote, or vote for Biden, if you want to speed up the demise of what’s left of the “system”. If Joe… Read more »
Trump’s greatest achievement was a tax code change. One that capped blue state tax deductions. That alone may have been worth his election (but not re-election). It will force people like me to eventually exit our blue states. The democrats won’t bring the deductions back. They’re just jaw boning and need the cash. The blue states were free riding on that deduction. No one even understands the exodus that’s about to happen. Notice that blue states never lowered their taxes to accommodate the Federal change. The economic tables will be turned by this over the next five years. No California,… Read more »
I suspect tons of federal money will flow to the Blue states and cities to compensate for some of the loss. But you are right, it can’t make up for the SALT losses and the mass exodus that is about to happen regardless of who wins in November will be the White version of the Great Migration. There is a great sorting underway and it will accelerate. States likely will break apart whether formalized by law or not.
What a perfect example of horseshoeism:
https://twitter.com/xleasir/status/1274744801297137672
Black guy: “I couldn’t help it, it was instinct!”
Race realist white guy: “I know, I keep telling people the same thing!”
Secretly race realist lefty: “I know, that’s why I keep sending my kids to “good school districts!””
Oblivious conservative: “Ah, shucks, don’t say that, the Democrats turned you into this. It’s not your nature to react like that, bad politicians led you astray!”
This is the correct response right here: https://twitter.com/DarrenJBeattie/status/1274745294442332160 I’m disturbed how many people- including people on the right- seem to have internalized and accepted brutal violence as an acceptable reaction to mean words. Even if a racial slur or nasty word had been thrown out, physical violence as a reaction isn’t legitimate. That’s what happens when we internalize the left’s “words are violence, therefore physical reactions are legitimate” narrative. Looks like a similar thing happened not too far from the Z-man not too long ago, but never made it into the national media: https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/09/23/fatal-frederick-fair-attack-latest/ At the time, the local BLM/Antifa… Read more »
I think we’re done. Even on supposedly “conservative” sites I get roasted for pointing out that it is delusional to think that Trump’s path to victory is to just court Blacks harder. Egalitarianism is a helluva drug.
those sites are filled with bandwagoners
Fact of life we have to deal with
But as soon as we start winning, whatever form that takes, the bandwagon fans will be coming over here and buying their Z Man coffee cups and baseball hats lol
Nah nah, I know Z Man will never stoop so low but just making a point
If he peels some black votes off the Democrats, it helps him get elected.
Another example of why we should steer clear of BLM/Antifa rioters; as usual the enemy media is engaging in deflection:
https://twitter.com/plzbepatient/status/1274733137973530626
As frustrating as it may be, a sitzkrieg accomplishes a lot more right now than confronting the FBI’s patsies.
If nothing else, at least one major victory to take away from the Trump presidency is his unmasking the media as the enemy of the people. As the Zman said in a post some time ago, that’s a significant victory we can make use of even after Trump’s long gone.
Well sure, going into the lion’s den is a fool’s errand, but I do love to see whites fight back against general black antagonism:
https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1274595064422023168
So while fighting the BLM cannon fodder that the elite set up for us is stupid, we should probably expect to see harsher white reactions against black criminality. You love to see it.
Yesterday, vxxc Toxic masculinity vector wrote, “ How about a post on normalcy bias? lol”, which is strangely appropriate to today’s article. Heuristics in decision making and cognitive bias colour our deliberations. That particular vector of contagion is a primary virus of attention. Compare; “ Oh look the tide has gone out early today “, with “ I’m from the government, I’m here to help you.” In both cases the proper response is, “ Grab the children, head for the hills! “ First we believe, then we disbelieve. Belief leads to disbelief to uncertainty. Uncertainty is a lack of faith… Read more »
His speech seemed a little low energy and he looked a little worse for wear. But – DJT is a student of Sun Tsu – so they say –
“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” – Sun Tzu
I’m kinda with you on this. Forget the politics. I am just speaking about the man. I sense he is playing possum.
And he has to know, and surely does, that if he wants to “energize the base” all he has to do is crack some antifa skulls
He may be saving it
I think you all confuse Trump being a failure with the nation being a failure. The nation has failed. No one man is capable of bailing it out. The Trump of right-wing dreams would never have gotten elected in the first place and would still have failed if he did — probably gotten himself successfully impeached. Why? Because half the citizens of the US and probably upwards of 90% of the political and ruling classes have no interest in saving the US. It’s one thing to save a people that want to be saved. It’s another to save people in… Read more »
There may be some out there who are angry with Trump for failing to bring about some whiteopia, and I agree that it would be absurd to assume one “savior” could ever do that. But I think most of the anger with Trump is that he failed spectacularly on even the most modest, minor and mundane things, not that he failed to bring in some kind of new world order. From day one of the administration, Trump could have done more to protect his supporters both in person and online, and he did nothing. He could have reformed bureaucracies better… Read more »
Zman, we’re on the same page, but as you can see from the comments many others still harbor hopes. That somehow the reckoning can be delayed, that they can insulate themselves, that something can be salvaged. And they condemn as ‘defeatist’ anyone who tries to look at things objectively. I don’t pretend that a total collapse wont bring tremendous pain and suffering, but I’d still rather see it sooner than later. All those now trying to copy the White flight of the past have yet to face demographic reality. There are vibrant rapefugees in West Virginia and Idaho. People just… Read more »
But I’ve been told on good authority that the Saxon will begin to hate at any moment!!!!
He does – he hates himself.