Simulacra and Simulation

Logic dictates that it is impossible for someone to lie to themselves. A lie is the deliberate, and therefore conscious, telling of a falsehood. The person lying is deliberately trying to deceive someone. The only way lying can be successful is if the person hearing the lie believes it. Lying to yourself is an obvious paradox. This is true of self-delusion or self-deception. The real paradox here is that we have these expressions because the phenomenon seems to exist.

For example, the odds of knowing someone who has died from the corona virus is very low, unless you work in a nursing home. For the typical person, you are more likely to know someone who was murdered. In fact, in most of the country, you are four times more likely to know a murder victim than a corona victim. Yet, many people on the Left will tell you they know many people who have died from corona. They really believe this is true and display the appropriate emotions to prove it.

Adding to the intrigue is the fact that these people have had the math explained to them many times by the more skeptical. The same is true about the stories of overwhelmed hospitals everyone hears about, but no one has seen. The nurses and doctors posting TikTok videos of themselves dancing in empty hospitals had no effect on the believers in these claims. Even now, they are sure the “first responders” are nearing exhaustion as they heroically fight the virus.

It is not a coincidence that these people are sure Donald Trump is Adolph Hitler slowly imposing the Third Reich. People who otherwise seem calm and rational, despite their politics, become hysterical when talking about Trump. “He’s a dangerous dictator who is destroying the country” they bellow. It’s not just hyperbole. They really seem to believe that Trump is not only a man who wants to be a dictator, but that he is actually assuming dictatorial power. The lie is very real to them.

It’s not so much that they believe complete nonsense regarding Trump. It’s that their own reaction to the nonsense underscores the irrationality of it. After all, if Trump is anything like they believe, voting him out of office is unlikely. After all, he would use his magic dictator power to rig the vote or just ignore the result. Rather than reevaluate their beliefs, they are now creating another fantasy around with Trump secretly plotting to ignore the results of the election.

For these people, perception is reality to the point where reality is warped in order to make it comply with their pseudo-reality. Like fanaticism, partisanship untethers the mind from objective reality. Unlike fanaticism, which is temporary and disconnected from rational thinking, partisanship enslaves the rational mind, forcing it to create an alternative reality. This partisan reality is so powerful it blocks out anything that contradicts or disconfirms the alternative reality.

The most extreme version of this are the radicals that go on a murderous rampage in the belief they are defending their cause against dangerous enemies. They quickly move from disagreement to murder, because they quickly create a reality in which anyone showing the least bit of doubt is secretly plotting to kill them. Those who commit political murder do so in the firm conviction they are acting in self-defense. In fact, they have to kill their opponents for the good of society.

The thing about political murder is it is not irrational. If you truly think the only way your people can survive is to abide by a certain set of rules, then anyone trying to undermine those rules is a direct threat to your survival. Bargaining with such a person or offering them leniency would be no different than bargaining with a killer. The fact that political opposition is not the same as violent assault is the deception. The partisan has become convinced of something that is at odds with reality.

Compounding this strange conflict of realities is the fact the people in each are highly similar to one another, but seemingly incapable of seeing the reality of the other as the other perceives it. The people sure the hospitals are war zones, for example, look at images of empty hospitals or the statistics on hospital layoffs and it has no impact on their mental processes. It’s as if that information is invisible to them. In fact, it just confirms to them that the other people are dangerously insane.

In fairness, something similar happens when dealing with the MAGA people. Their blind loyalty to Trump and the old America is more endearing, but just as disconnected from reality as the “Trump is Hitler” stuff. In this regard, those looking hard at the world find themselves surround by people from at least two simulations that are derivative of reality, but at odds with it in fundamental ways. It’s as if there is a leak in these simulations and their simulacrum are leaking into the real world.

The question we face in this age is whether it is possible to maintain a civil society with an abundance of people embracing an alternative reality. Fanatics, eccentrics, lunatics and so on have been a part of human society since the beginning. The issue today is one of scale. Those leaky simulations have burst open and our reality is now flooded with berserk imitations of normal people, acting on a sense of reality that is at odds with objective reality. We’re being overrun by simulacrum.

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268 thoughts on “Simulacra and Simulation

      • My dad is MAGA, served in the Marine Corps, patriotic as hell, great man, but he is not stupid and is starting to grasp that as long as people like Ilhan Omar and Chuck Schumer are running the show that no matter where he goes they will not leave him alone to simply enjoy life. They will hound him to death.

        My guess is this realization is spreading like wildfire

          • “I want it to be”

            There, I fixed it for you. Friggin sad, ain’t it. Let us hope.

          • Is changing. I’ve had people I know go from non racist, near anti racist Civ Nats to Ethno Nat in a very short period of time.

          • WGH: I guess I’m one of those guys- although my sportsball preferences run to the paler sports, hockey, baseball, golf and lacrosse. I was a supporter of the Trumpster, but it was more about him in comparison to the pathetic, sometimes evil losers of both parties he was up against. That and the fact that he didn’t curl up into the fetal position when challenged by the shitheads in the press. He’s proven to be a massive disappointment, although to be fair I didn’t expect much. I’m sad that the hopes I had as a kid- a harmonious multicultural society,… Read more »

          • The leftists were “massively disappointed” in obama halfway through the first term.
            Listening to TRS, ( I stopped several months ago) reading stuff Z writes & a lot of the comments here remind me of that.
            Maybe trump is a narcissistic con man I don’t know but i just cannot believe anyone seriously thinks handing over the presidency to the scumbag leftists would be anything but suicide for whites.

        • It is an axiom of Sun Tzu to always leave your enemy an escape route lest he turn and fight to the death. They sealed off all escape routes.

      • The MAGA types just want to be left alone to mow the lawn, grill, and watch a little sportsball.

        And, at the end of the day,what is so wrong about that? From where I sit, ain’t nothing in the world wrong with being what Mike Vanderboegh (DAMN! but I miss him.) called a LUTHA (Leave Us The Hell Alone!)

        • It’s only wrong insofar as it’s delusional. At best, Trump staves off the totalitarian state a bit longer, although there’s no guarantee his reelection wouldn’t actually produce the opposite result.

          • I believe if Trump is re-elected, the few pretenses that remain are discarded and what we see now will look like a child’s birthday party. It actually is the Left’s strategy: elect us and it will stop. That also is a lie, but it’s one many will embrace.

          • trump reelection might end up in secession of California & New York, which might lead to confederate states being able to rule themselves.
            Biden election on the other hand will lead to complete leftist takeover.

          • It may be delusional NOW, but it was not delusional for a very long time. In fact I’ve seen some serious historians of this country make the assertion that one of the real founding principles was “leave me the hell alone”. If you leave me the hell alone – you won’t get shot (2nd amendment) If you leave me the hell alone – I won’t be forced to denounce you (1st amendment) If you leave me alone and don’t tax the hell out of me – we can all get along (no income tax in the original form of the… Read more »

          • If Trump’s reelection triggers a chain reaction of secession, it will be a truly glorious moment in modern history.

          • What about the last four years of Trump make you think that another four won’t result in a complete Leftist takeover?

          • Which brings me back to my original point: Trump has done ZERO to check the Left.

            Much like a certain headless former French King, he is great at inflaming the other side while delivering nothing to his supporters.

          • The past is a different country. And the people were most certainly a different people. We are degraded, miscegenated, deracinated. And the memory of a ‘beating’ is far from sufficient. This is a battle for the survival of the White race and the fruits of its culture. No holds barred.

          • In that case, Upstate New York would turn around and secede from Downstate. There is already a movement afoot to do so.

          • MemeWarVet said: “Which brings me back to my original point: Trump has done ZERO to check the Left.” Exactly when did he have a chance to do that? When he was fighting the russia hoax 24/7 ? Or how about the impeachment hoax? Maybe it was the time that Pres.Trump’s secretary of defense refused to send in the military to put down the riots? “Pentagon Chief Rejects Trump’s Threat To Use Military To Quell Unrest.” https://www.npr.org/2020/06/03/868929288/pentagon-chief-rejects-trumps-threat-to-use-military-to-quell-unrest He’s own cabinet won’t obey his orders, let alone most of the permanent state. What the hell is he supposed to do? Oh, and… Read more »

          • Yes, the McCloskey model of resistance- right in your own yard. Pink shirts, khakis and an AR 15 as you’re gathered around the charcoal grill. You can always take one with you.
            Maybe get a Ralph Lauren pony painted on your AR receiver.

          • Bologna, you’ve been around this page long enough to know Z has answered your question ad nauseum

          • “ad nauseum” Hahahaha! Sweet! I love it. 😀 ad nauseam ăd nô′zē-əm adv. To a disgusting or ridiculous degree; to the point of nausea. n. Literally, to sickness; to disgust; to the extent of exciting disgust, especially the disgust which arises from satiety or wearisome repetition: as, statements or complaints repeated ad nauseam. adv. to a nauseating or sickening degree. Maybe you meant: ad infinitum ăd ĭn″fə-nī′təm adverb & adjective To infinity; having no end. To infinity; endlessly; on and on without end; through an infinite series. Without limit; endlessly. If you think about it, neither one is all that… Read more »

          • OBT, dictionary-sperging is gay. He used the term correctly and you are indeed making us queasy with your (((shenanigans))).

          • Most of us “red-staters”, even those of us who live in the deep blue part of the country, are law abiding, and that the issue of secession was decided in 1865. It’s unthinkable to most of the people we who post on forums agree with. Heck, it was unthinkable to me until recently. I still hold out hope that we can fix our problems, but that hope is fading fast.

          • What’s delusional about wanting to enjoy life while you can? It’s damn short. If trump can stave off the scumbags a little longer great.
            Lastly in politics the only guarentee is nobody ever gets every thing they want.

        • Nothing at all. That’s great life. I don’t care what anyone says, and I have done a lot in my life, but dinner with friends and family, drinks afterwards, hanging out, stuff like that is as good as it gets. I think the issue is that has become increasingly difficult if not impossible, depending on one’s situation. Our duty, whether we want it or not, is to do whatever it takes so we can continue to have that for ourselves and our people. But we can’t have it, at least for long, if the likes of Ilhan Omar is making… Read more »

        • LUTHA is selfish, individualistic and ultimately anti-social.

          Kirk-style Conservatism was supposed to be concerned with community well-being, social standards and limiting anti-social influences like unrestrained commerce, pornography/obscenity, etc..

          The infection of Conservatism with Libertarian “do what thou wilt and harm none” ethics, particularly in the 1990’s to the 2000’s, gave birth to the LUTHA lifestyle.

          Unless you remain politically and socially active, aware and engaged, “I don’t care what people do in their own bedrooms” turns into “bake the cake, bigot.”

          • Exactly right Brother… People want to act like they formed the country they are living in all by themselves so they have no duty to be a part of society…

          • Bullshit. The leave me the hell alone mindset firstly doesn’t stop just at the individual – but extends up to the level of family – and then local community – and to the states. Secondly, it didn’t start recently – it started before the founding of the country. It’s pretty hard to convince a guy who just treked 200 miles thru the wilderness that the farm he hacked out of woods is not HIS, especially when the “authorities” were nowhere to be found until all the pieces were in place for them to show up and start claiming sovereignty and… Read more »

          • I think we can safely say that “leave me the hell alone” is an evolutionary dead end.

            Im personally wired that way also, and it gives me no pleasure to say it.

          • Meme – Absolutely. I’m the same, and I suspect a large majority of those here are too. Thing is, though, I’ve realized how much I have depended on things provided by community to achieve what I previously attributed solely to my own efforts. As others have said better than I, you really can’t go it totally alone. Everyone doing as he wishes and leaving everyone else alone is the lolbertarian fantasy. No one bothering to provide for the commons means no trust and no society.

          • LUTHA is selfish, individualistic and ultimately anti-social. There is nothing wrong with being selfish. Enlightened self-interest can form the foundation of a completely functional ethos. Exile lists being individualistic as if it were a bad thing. Methinks he has consumed overmuch of the cool-aide of communism/socialism. There is (or at least should be) neither sin nor shame accruing to being an individual. One could easily argue that the cardinal error of the SJW is the refusal – if not outright INABILITY – to see/deal with people as other than a member of one group or another. I have maintained FOR… Read more »

          • There is no magic in the constitution nor would any who call for it claim there to be.

            The magic would only accrue to following or adhering to it.

          • It’s pretty funny how you guys continue to get pissed off at Libertarians – and make the argument “be part of society” – when the entire reason this site exists in the first place is that “society” has made it plainly obvious that it doesn’t want you around. Maybe you ought to start considering the fact that maybe the “libertarians” understood this fact long before you finally woke up and realized it – and they just wanted out. I don’t see any of the libertarian types that I’ve ever read wanting pure individualism – or every man for themself. What… Read more »

          • 3g4me, i have the feeling you and I will meet in a camp one day. Hopefully on the administration side.

          • Even the lolbertarian preppers get this: runni g off yo your hideaway means getting eaten later, not avoiding the horde. Getting eaten last still means you get eaten. Your own community is the only way to avoid getting eaten.

          • In a prior time, refusing to join your team and stand the line was understood as treason. The settler who turned tail and ran when the savages attacked had better not stop running, as the result would be the same if they were caught by either side.
            Enjoy your individual autonomous an-cap sovereign space on your boxcar ride to the camps. Contribute to your community and defend it, or you deserve the vibrant enrichment coming your way.

        • No one will ever leave you alone especially the woke who are driven by religious impulse, They will either convert you or kill you.
          Same with the globalists.

          You either have a State for your people with the strength to keep enemies at bay and the will and wisdom to prevention subversion or you will nerve have peace.

          • What are the odds ab of people waking up to that fact before it’s to late…

          • It is too late. Civil war and/or more collapse into many states is on the table. We already have government in Pennsylvania threatening to arrest Federal officers for doing their job. The Left wants to stop the push back by any means necessary but of they succeed its dangerous as it sets the precedent for everyone to do it. Fail to use force in an uneven manner (i.e Left or Right obey the law) and instead go political and you just flushed legitimacy and this is a well armed nation. Heck we just had a large ethnic riot here in… Read more »

      • Civilized society, that’s what a lot of people want, and that’s not what they are going to get. The professional agitators are organized and funded, and are out to make sure no one spends a day in mental comfort or sleeps well at night.

          • The thudding bass of rap is the drumbeat of African savagery. It draws steadily closer and penetrates the sanctity of your castle day and night.

          • That is precisely why so many people are listening to oldies. Top 50 radio is just unlistenable. It is awful.

          • You can run but you can’t hide and I can guarnetee the Left will try to ban or destroy Oldies as raciss as soon as they notice and can get away with it.
            Ultimately the Lefts goal is you to be made to care, you kids brainwashed by force and you essentially enslaved.

          • Oldies maybe, but classical definitely. The lack of diversity in classical music is appalling. Appalling, I tell you!

          • What’s fun is to go to a classical performance featuring a black soloist. (There won’t be any blacks in the ensemble.) The program will have 2-3 x as much about this person as about any other soloists, and will describe their struggles in life, often involving juvie courts. Other soloists will list their accomplishments. The best part is after the performance when the nice people are standing and applauding. They give the soloist his treat-treat, pat him on the head, and put him back on-leash. It’s very touching how nice all the goodwhites treat him. Mascotism. I’m another who’s stolen… Read more »

          • Affirmative action is actually more of a cultural phenomenon than an economic and social one.

        • The domestic terrorists at this point are a functional part of the federal government. Note it is the DHS and neither the DOJ nor FBI that is going after Antifa in Portland. It is all you need to know.

          • The President is an aging hosteler and entertainer not a revolutionary or warrior TFeds are picking people off the street in numbers. Its been all over the news. Still President Trump is playing a cautious, media centric game, trying to avoid an engineered Kent State which could cost him an election while also enjoying watching Left wing cities suffer , sending the not so subtle message “you voted for this.” Now sure most of us would prefer an outright deceleration of Martial Law and going full Pinochet but the President’s gaps on power is rather limited and he barely controls… Read more »

          • The idea that Trump is doing anything in a cautious or even calculated fashion is in your own head alone. WYSIWYG – he’s not a poker-player, much less a chess player. Operates on guts and bombast and uses (((tricksters))) in the tight spots where bullying doesn’t get him what he wants.

            He’s a General Grant or Zhukov, not Rommell or Alexander.

          • Feds snatching people in Portland? That’s exactly what a Liberal Democrat friend told me last night. I haven’t seen (or searched for) this specific news item. I’m aware that Feds are in some cities I presumed to defend Federal facilities. Frankly, I’m disappointed. I and others were applauding Trump’s hands-off, let-the-Democratic-Mayor-take-care-of-it approach. What changed?

          • The impression I get is Trump is relying on the parts of the Federal govt that he knows he reliably controls. The “unbadged agents” who’ve been rounding up the commie scum here in Portland are actually clearly badged Border Patrol. There’s also the DHS. It may simply be that Trump is sending the most reliable forces to clear the rioters and re-establish control before sending in less reliable ones who might actually join the rioters or stand down like the local police have been told to. It’s actually starting to look like the State of Oregon may be planning to… Read more »

          • Disintegration may happen in a few months. The response to COVID 19 killed the economy and without Federal relief millions are looking at homelessness and hunger.
            Its a well armed, formally middle class society with ethnic strife, ideal for a continent sized Imperial collapse.
            Some of this is in fact President Trump’s fault as he seems hell bent on a payroll tax holiday. While a good thing policy wise, its better to just get a relief package and to work to getting States open, casualties or not.

        • They’re going to have an awful lot of funding to keep hounding you: https://www.blackenterprise.com/black-lives-matter-corporate-america-has-pledged-1-678-billion-so-far/ $1 billion from Bank of America $100 mil from a number of other companies Total : $1.678 billion so far. You want to do something useful ? Start asking white people what bank they use. Bank of America has been a shitpile since before the crash back in 2008-2009. If I remember correctly – they got bailed out. Now your accounts – and your tax dollars are going DIRECTLY to funding your enemies. People do need to be reminded of that. Not that it will do… Read more »

          • BLM will blow all of that dough on gold-plated Escalades and Popeye’s.

          • quit a bit of dough. seen the price of trucks lately? you need a 100k to get in now. was i snoring?

        • Case in point. On a long drive last week and used a trivia app to pass the time. For no apparent reason at the end of one game, the clearly woke white bimbo paid to ask trivia questions puts a plug in for the “most amazing book!” she’s reading called “White Fragility”. Earlier that week I get a Kindle notification, “based on your reading history we recommend…” of course, DiAngelo’s White Fragility. I collect hardback history books and use kindle only when I want to rest my mind with bubble gum-chewing fiction like zombie, fantasy, sci-fi nonsense. If you were… Read more »

          • Penitent Man – You are a guy after my own heart. My bookshelves are packed (politics, history, military history, English and Russian literature, art books, etc.). I, too, use my kindle for light and escapist reading (military fiction, science fiction, prepper fiction) and I get those same ‘recommendations.’ Although I read quite rapidly, I recently canceled my Kindle Unlimited because I cannot find anything unwoke. I have literally scanned through a hundred pages in the categories I prefer, and every other book is about a homosexual love affair or has a black woman as the protagonist. It really pervades everything.… Read more »

          • 3g4me,

            Yup. Even mindless escape fiction is becoming perved. We had a saying in the army (and you’ll have to excuse my ungentlemanly discorse)… “they’re so f***ed up they’d screw up a wet dream.”

      • That might be what they want, but that is not what they are getting. There is no escape anymore. HR, the boobtube, movies, radio, billboards, ads, social media etc are all shoving clownworld in your face.
        Next thing you know they will be selling BLM grills and Aunt Tanisha’s hamburgers with social justice messaging on the box. You cannot escape.

        • You cannot escape
          Which is why you should be preparing for war yet people still want to just rant on social media…I know you are doing more than that but you are one of the few…

  1. Covid not an epidemic killing millions? Jennifer Aniston has a friend dying from it , so wear a mask you traitor! That’s the level of retardation we are living with.

    On the latest from the war front, Tucker is being doxed by the NYT from his new address. I am sure some federal agency (Barr?) will address this.

    As far as Maga people, they are redeemable or at least educable. The other side is either rabid or their manipulators evil.

    • There is a difference, it seems. The MAGA/CivNat people are partisans out of necessity. They are legitimately playing defense. If Covid mutated into a disease that only killed liberals, these people would cease to be political in five years, once all the liberals were dead.

      The Left, in contrast, is sure they are under assault from MAGA hat wearing Nazis. In the Obama years, it was racist Nazis. In the Bush years, it was war for oil Nazis. They have a villain for every season, which justifies their endless assaults on society.

      • You nailed that. It’s hard not to be a partisan when BET, Antifa the media, education, Hollywood and every other company is rallied against you because MAGA. When MAGA people are doxxed, beaten, murdered, deplatformed, censored, have their businesses looted and burned, have their employment terminated it’s hard for them not to see the “peaceful protesters” as those domestic enemies so many of our oaths contain reference to. In fact self defense becomes a priority and that means for our nation as well as the person.

        • They politicize everything so you are forced to pick a side. And then you are put into a box.

          How can anyone politicize the weather or people wanting clean water? But they did.

          It’s these useless kids of the elites with nothing better to do but play dollhouse with Americans and put them into their little boxes.

        • Alas, it’s not just the MAGAs, but whites in general who are the target. Unfortunately, most whites do not or refuse to realize this.

          • It may get to the point where we have to be like drill sergeants banging a spoon inside a metal trash can as they sleep to make them wake up

          • Many do but no sane person wants a race war and do note that huge numbers of woke are White. If/when it goes seriously hot, the US is over as a developed nation. We will be very lucky not to have endemic famine and disease in our cities for decades. Our system is fragile, so fragile we are may be 11 days out from (yes days with a d) fro the beginning of a cascade failure from mass unemployment and evictions. Imagine 1/3 of people homeless and broke over the next two month during a low grade resurrection and a… Read more »

          • Not if you live in one. Instead we’ll ship our joggers out by you and yours thereby improving our lives. Not everybody here in the dense urban core 1) enjoys living here, and 2) is on the left. Some of us cannot find comparable work and compensation elsewhere, especially at my age.

          • ChicagoRodent, Suggestion if I may. Firstly, sorry you are unable to relocate. I had the same problem. I solved this through long planning and great financial sacrifice. Essentially I’ve lived well below my means to purchase and build another home for retirement in a good safe white rural community. My car is ancient though I could afford and a new one. Instead of vacationing in Europe I’ve spent my vacations at my rural home improving it and establishing connections to that community. People have come to know me and I am greeted warmly every time I arrive. I’ve done without… Read more »

          • What I thought you had ten million in the bank and a mansion and you still need to work…

        • “Youths”; “peaceful protests”; “unarmed black man”; “London man”; “diversity”; “tolerance”; “free speech”; etc. So many wonderful neologisms. We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.

          • I know 🙁 I’m subscribed to a few topics on Medium, and I like to lay into the frequently logic-free “Woke” articles about the Poor Oppressed Black Man. So far haven’t been banned, which is odd 😀

        • That’s why it is important not to depend on the vote. Voting is fine, a sort of anachronistic exercise, but don’t put too much faith into it. What’s coming is coming, and neither voting well or getting a good (or less bad) outcome from the fall vote is going to change that.

          • Exactly. Knowing this is one of the big differences between us and the Moogas.

            When the “silent majority” doesn’t materialize, their worldview will be totally shattered. For us? A shoulder shrug, and another day.

      • The preserve-protect (right) and progress-destroy (left) axis is clear but it doesn’t plumb the depth of the divide. The leftist mind attaches to an epistemology of anti-truth; the paradoxical “fact” that man cannot know the Truth. Nothing is impartial; everything is personal and thus tainted with judgement. Avoiding judgement based on observable truths means they are incapable of fundamental notions like cause and effect, virtue and vice, as their moral imperatives do not originate in the universal truths but downstream in the morass of emotional self-regard. IOW their moral imperative of preserving their own virtue of compassion actually precludes them… Read more »

          • This. The characterization of the mentally ill, deluded, and/or irrational actor as ‘good hearted’ is a false one. They are not victims. They are responsible for their own choices and actions. And those who want to control or harm you are, by definition, your enemy, not your neighbor. Christ wasn’t nice, he was just and holy.

          • True. Christ is also lord. We are fallen. Irrational by nature often enough to leave room for discussion. Very little is so binary to recuse one from having to discern the various false paths underfoot of others. Their agency is not in question. What is in question is the extent to which we, as conduits of gods love, owe it to our neighbors to discern between those who desire to control or kill us and those who have fallen into the work of evil with goodness in their heart. Yes the meekness is a sheathed sword at the ready but… Read more »

          • Jesus did not use his words and charm to gently persuade the moneylenders to vacate his Father’s temple.

          • Sorting the sinner from the wicked. Christ’s self-sacrifice to bring people closer to God vs. a Christian’s duty to bear the sword against those that actively separate people from God. I don’t know why this causes modern Christians so much consternation and confusion. Pope Urban II sorted this out already.

          • Munchausen by Proxy disorder sounds very similar. The only difference is they have yet to become your caregiver.

      • Everyone is political now and is on one side or the other. Back in the 80’s when I was in college and then later working and hanging out with friends and dating girls, I only remember a few times even talking about politics. I barely even knew the political views of most friends and the girls I dated weren’t interested.

        • The mental calculations are now quickly made in all social situations, especially by the females. To not immediately virtue signal, or to not jump enthusiastically to the first virtue signal thrown out there, gets you labeled and judged. It’s just how it is now. Wear those labels and judgements as badges of pride.

          • And keep mental lists of those in whose eyes you can see a glimmer of support and more importantly those that are most vociferous in condemning you.

        • A little younger, and I’ll second that. Things started changing after Iraq War 2. I miss the old friendships that foundered on politics.

          • I completely agree. I was in college during “Shock and Awe” and a couple of years later was working in the DC metro, during the height of the Cindy Sheehan protests etc. The office environment where I worked was polarizing regarding factors surrounding the wars, but also the campaigns to legalize gay marriage. The majority of the women and many of the “men” that I worked with (and this was at a top defense and intelligence contractor) were gun-ho about LGBT rights. I kept my views to myself at work, but the time came that I spoke up and it… Read more »

      • So true. The AWRs are political animals almost to the exclusion of all else. Which means they are warped, deformed human beings.

      • It is earily similar to the Republican terror of 1936 in Spain: they earnestly believe there are litteral, deadly, armed “fascists” sneaking in the bushes and hiding in the curtains, even if its actually some unarmed 80 year old pensioner taking a nap or a nun going to market. And the absurdity of their delusion wont stop their bullets and torture impliments.

      • It boils down to the MAGA/CivNats want to win and be left alone. The Marxists want to win and destroy everyone else. It’s not a small difference.

        • I would say the first part of your statement depends on what you classify as winning… Elections yea, Survival of themselves and what they love I would say no…

      • It’s the endless assaults that turn the conservative / leave me alone types political. I know that is what did it for me. I would much rather be spending my time doing things that are actually useful and productive – than debating politics and trying to out-maneuver people who are constantly trying to screw me over. So – I completely understand those people who just try to ignore the whole thing. The reality is – there is only so much time in every day – and so much time in every person’s life. Time spent doing non productive things –… Read more »

    • What is SO VERY WRONG with wanting America to return to the greatness (I believe) it once enjoyed? Nobody ever claimed America was Utopia. But if it was/is such a shitty place to live, why the hell have SO many people busted their humps to come here? For OVER TWO CENTURIES no less?!?! Answer me that,if you can!

      (And yes I have a red MAGA cap. I wear it at least partly to piss of my neighbors.)

      • Well, Bill, what’s wrong with wanting any good but impossible thing? Isn’t the thing wrong simply because it’s irrational?

      • Nothing wrong with it Bill. The reference to Maga only means you need to come further over to the dissident side and not blindly support your guy when he is wrong.
        Doesn’t mean you personally, we all want pretty much the same thing, but rallies aren’t the only ticket.

        • Trump is not necessary wrong. In fact, he’s right on most things. Unfortunately, the cattle are already out of the barn. There’s nothing Trump or any other president can do to stick the pieces of America back together. We now live in a post-American environment. The MAGAs simply need to hoist in this grim fact.

      • The people coming here are from garbage dumps. Are you really impressed that your country happens to be a step-up from Somalia? We can’t get lost in the past, but a lot of places are as good if not better than America today. We have to face reality. No one from Europe is going to come here because it is a step down or at best a lateral move. And the ones who do do it just for a job that pays a lot better than the one back home, but there are jobs back home just as good but… Read more »

      • “What is SO VERY WRONG with wanting America to return to the greatness (I believe) it once enjoyed?”

        Bill, nothing is wrong with wanting that. Probably everyone here wants that, but we realize it’s not happening.

        I want to flap my arms and fly like a bird. It seems like it would be great fun. It’s OK to wish I could fly like a bird, but I need to realize it’s never going to happen. I need to move on with life and keep up with my responsibilities to my family and things like that rather than practicing my arm flapping techniques.

      • The problem, Bill, is the “going back,” the “again” part. The errors of the past (blank slate egalitarianism as an axiom, believing in free speech and the “marketplace of ideas” as a truth-finding mechanism, believing in the wisdom of the masses to do the right thing) have to be recognized and corrected. Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the football is a parable to learn from, not an example to follow. Thus it is a fundamental change in mindset needed: rewinding to 1985 means we will repeat the mistakes of 86, 92, 2000, etc. We must move forward with a new, improved… Read more »

      • Ah hell, let’s give it one more shot. Call your congressman and insist that he reintroduce the Naturalization Act of 1790.

    • Incidentally, if TPTB used the same criteria to code Kovid deaths as the do for SARS, the death toll in the US would be a bit shy of 20K.

  2. Off topic observation:
    I always find Zman’s blog on Google search engine with the “z man blog” text entry. Prior to yesterday Zman was always the 4th or 5th returned result from the google search. Yesterday the search dropped Zman’s blog to first entry of the second page (i.e., 11th return). Today I couldn’t find Zman’s blog using the Google search! Someone at Google removed Zman’s blog from their search engine!
    “Z man blog” is still the first result returned in Microsoft Bing engine.

    • I’ve noticed similar results. In much the same vein of today’s Zman masterpiece… people are convinced that Google is neutral, or at least it’s biases are detectable/manageable.

      It’s not, and they aren’t. When I read pieces by educators saying that “teaching facts isn’t important because learning how to do the google is all that’s really necessary” I’m gobsmacked by the rank ignorance they’re displaying.

        • I was just sent some materials from a prospective employer (high school). One of the paragraphs detailed how, in case of a confrontation between a black kid and a white kid, the black kid should be favored as an act of “restorative justice.” Of course, it was written by an obese black woman, whose simian face was planted front-and-center on the cover of the document. You know, just so we understand we’re reading material by one of our moral betters.

          I loathe these people.

    • Sounds like Google AI has crunched its millions of combinations. And here are the results: people who search for Zman are also displaying search habits that may be described as increasingly “anti social” and disloyal to the regime.

      • We get too ideological here. Until things go completely totalitarian, the Woke corporate capitalists will quietly and grudigingly provide you with goods and services, you reactionary racist conservative you 😀

    • Dropping conservative sites down the memory hold in this way is SOP at Google. I’m surprised that Zman stayed at 4th or 5th as long as he did. You can document the phenomenon by choosed a sample of conservative sites and then doing a search for them on Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo. The results should speak for themselves, as the two latter haven’t yet begun to apply such political “adjustments” to their platforms, or at least not yet.

      • I did a search a few weeks ago looking for Rumsfeld 9/11 chant about “wrapping it all up, related or not”
        On Google Duckduckgo Brave and Yandex I got 6 or 6 hits. None really responsive.
        On Bing and Yahoo I got 22 million plus, most in the right area,

        Only a fool uses Google search or mail or gets entangled in it in any way.
        The Duck—,, result was a bit of a shocker but someone here had mentioned it was becoming PC.

      • Interestingly, when I search “zman” on DuckDuckGo, I always get a side picture/headline/wiki of Zmanin, which are specific times of the day in Jewish law.

        Maybe Z is playing the longest-running joke on all of us. 😉

        • BTW, I found Zman’s blog from one of your posts on Steve Sailer’s unz.com website. I think you linked to one of Zman’s articles about a year ago. I clicked the link and now I’m here. Thank you!

          • Yeah, all of us should remember to link Z’s posts at other sites, especially Sailer. There are a lot people over there who are realizing that we’re not debating or voting our way out of this but who aren’t sure what to do next.

      • At least with DDG you don’t have your whole search history capped and you get the slightly less pozzed Bing results (Yahoo also but those are curated more heavily than Google)

      • I use DuckDuckGo. This blog has been the first result, in my experience, with those key words. Admittedly, I still use Google when I want to find something technical or obscure.
        I’m not sure why I even bother with Duckduck or Dissenter, honestly. In the end, they would likely quack you out to the Stasi for a can of soya beans. Quack!

    • That suggests that Google employees only scan the first couple of lines of their search results, not too suprising as that’s what the rest of do, however, it lends support to my belief that what we actually face is a vast tsunami of incompetence. Could be Dr Ed Dutton is on to something.

    • I tried it with Google. Couldn’t find it at all. Not even on the 3rd page. It was the first entry when I removed the space from between “z”and “man”, i.e. “the zman blog”.and/or “zman blog”. I would caution against attributing your results to evil intent, though. Hanlon’s razor could still be in play. But it could be a case of evil intent. It certainly does look like something fishy is going on. But if it were not Hannlon’s razor being in play, wouldn’t searching on “zman” be equally fruitless as “z man”? I am increasingly wondering if most of… Read more »

      • I always use the same search term on google and other engines to access Zman’s site, and have done so multiple times a week for about a year. For sure Zman’s google search ranking using “z man blog” entry (for at least the last year) is lower than it should be for some unknown reason (compare results to Bing or Yandex — 4th/5th in google vs top return in other engines). As searches are automated, deviation from a normal return indicates a human intervention. For at least a year someone at google lowered Zmans blog on search query return rankings.… Read more »

      • “But as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other.” – Thomas Jefferson.  It’s a good quote. Relevant now of white america? There’s definitely malignancy, along with fear and religious zeal too. Then there is the inordinately wealthy throwing their money into politics and discord, perhaps just to see what happens. The traditional privilege of their class. But you are right about incompetence. Unless the current state of affairs is somehow desirable, then it must be incompetence. The… Read more »

      • I was going to tell you that it must be evil intent because Unz Review, Steve Sailer, Gab, and Vdare all dropped from the search results as well.
        But now, they and z blog are coming up on Google. What the Hell? Was it just a test run for a purge? Why not just make it permanent?

    • I too have this problem with Google. I do the same search on the same machine every day, and get a full page of a fishing lure company. Google never remembers, never finds this site. I don’t think this is Hanlon’s Razor.

  3. i see a ton of people walking around, and in the media, that genuinely seem mentally ill to me. i ascribe it to the bad fit between modern society and actual human needs. many of the themes zman covers here, contribute to this bad fit. really feels like the current system is cracking apart at the seams, and the ruling class is panicking big time.

    • They are not seemingly mentally ill. They are. In varying degrees. They have been pumped full of drugs, probably sexually abused, they are broken spiritually, or they are just weak. These are real things. And there are a lot of people like this and in a normal society would be more or less protected and taken under the wings of caring relatives or neighbors and nurtured into maturity. But instead the state sees them as the perfect candidates for their experimental psychology or whatever it is. And what we see around us are their failed experiments. They just let them… Read more »

      • Yes. Feral dysfunction elevated to moral sanctity. Instead of having to confront their pathologies in order to conform into society, they continually agitate to contort society to accommodate their pathologies. That process is a moral imperative of Progress. Normalizing the abnormal. Elevating private dysfunctions to public burdens. Not all are so damaged, but because they cling to the same religion they are obliged to advocate for crazy otherwise their pious self-regard is called into question. Each moral test more demanding than the last. I see this play out all the time especially in the children of progs. “My son is… Read more »

        • Simulacrum—one of my favorite words. TPTB have weaponized the media, the Internet, human emotional hind-brain thinking, and the human need to belong and to believe in something, to create an artificial simulated universe of human atomization and mental distress. The interesting question (to me, anyway), is “why”? What is it about living in a white-style middle class environment of fellowship, faith, civility, community, and basic contentment that threatens them so? Is it because we might actually have something they can never have, in their world of more money than they will ever need, but living in an environment totally transactional… Read more »

          • The “why” is vexing. I tend toward the usual base instincts and human frailties. Envy, for reasons you state. Fear. My own mother is mentally ill. The kind that is rather banal, but arguably more destructive than the moon barkers. As such, she is incapable of love; of actually caring for someone else absent the exchange she desperately needs. She can tend to basic needs, even perform acts of caring and thoughtfulness. On the surface that is. But she is deeply envious of anyone who can form such connections naturally. Her greatest fear, in the insane irony, is that nobody… Read more »

          • The “why” is also what interests me. Some simple, common working theories: There is no directed reason. The events since we were gobsmacked by the world wars have taken on a momentum of their own. God is dead. A communistic plot. Liberal democracy and mob rule is inherently stupid and must always have a stupid fate. This just happens to be the type of stupid fate we are arriving at. Our rulers have a streak of Caligula. They envy the naked powers of foreign despots and want their subjects to be more like those that can be ruled by such.… Read more »

          • A favorite quote from The Simulacra, one of Phillip K. Dick’s many odd SF novels: “No matter how hard one tried one could not entirely suspend interpersonal relationships, desirable as it might be.” Even I’m not that anti-social 😀

          • IMO. <I>Why?</i>

            Is driven by:

            A) Boredom. Human Beings need challenges to battle against. When none exist, people create them to fill a void / scratch an itch.

            B) Status competition. At various points in history elites have engaged in status competition revolving around bizarre acts and objects that are completely ridiculous to outsiders.

            C) Religious fervor. Religiously motivated zealots have engaged in any number of bizarre and self destructive acts out of piety.

        • Agree with Falcone: very well stated.
          in fact, your first paragraph (thank you for making paragraphs and not just one BLOB of text!) nicely sums up the changes we have all experienced in the last ~30 years.
          (I use 30 because that’s a number where I can still remember the “normal before times”!)

      • Does anyone remember the story that took place in Leroy, NY a few years ago? It involved girls from the same high school who, in rapid succession, developed physical tics that took over their lives? They would twitch, wave their arms, stutter, jerk their necks, etc. The State dutifully ran environmental tests and came up dry. Neurologists also drew blanks. Even that Erin Brockovich trollop stuck her oar in the water and insisted she had come up with a cause (chemicals in the ground from an ancient train wreck or something). But ultimately they never came up with anything specific… Read more »

    • Almost every early – mid 20s person is fucked up. It varies from “mildly depressed but functional / seeming normal” to “gender bending lunatic”.

      Loneliness, atomization, and lack of community are the main factors, I think. Not to mention, SSRI and other prescription medications generally just make things worse.

      The elites should be panicking because society just won’t run with this group. But the elites themselves promoted the drug use, gender bending, and smashed religion, so I don’t know what their plan is.

      • Not just people in their 20s. I would trace this back to the ’60s and the rapid rise of divorce. Sure, people had crappy marriages and/or illegitimate kids throughout history, but it was condemned, not celebrated. Woman who works for a friend of mine – not too politically left, but she’s been on anti-depressants for years. Still blames her stepmother for her parents’ divorce (although stepmom is not the one daddy cheated with). Still needs daddy to pay her bills. Never married. In her late 40s. Wasted life, broken woman. Far too many like her.

    • u could say they are mentally ill, I’d say they are burned out from too much sexual liberation.

      Porn fapping + succubi women + white hate + COLLEGE INDOCTRINATION(greatest evil of them all) = western zombie

    • I unsubscribed from ivors channel after a recent YouTube video alleging the “systemic racism” inherent in different outcomes between races. Barf

      • That sounds bad. I have not watched him before this is the first video and to be fair it’s a South African guys talking mostly

      • One of my “essays” was to ponder the different claimed types of racism. I’m sure there are well-written examples on the web but I’m too lazy to search for them. But one thing they lack is my twisted humor 🙂 Here is one outcome we can hope for: Liberal woke scholars, having scoured the Earth for all sub-species of racism both real and invented, finally alight upon the harsh truth that racism exists because * GACK! * there really are racial differences. 😀

  4. “Unlike fanaticism, which is temporary and disconnected from rational thinking, partisanship enslaves the rational mind, forcing it to create an alternative reality. This partisan reality is so powerful it blocks out anything that contradicts or disconfirms the alternative reality.” The Blank Slate, probably the greatest debacle in the history of science, was another instance of this phenomenon. It was necessary to embrace and defend the absurd claim that there is literally no such thing as human nature to defend the “partisan realities” required by socialist and equalist ideology. The Blank Slate dogmas blocked our path to self-understanding, and continue to… Read more »

    • Yes, In and Out groups, pretty sure this is in operation at all times in human (indeed, other higher animals too) group interactions. Whether it’s the Crips and the Bloods, the competing Great Ape tribes in Africa, or political parties, knowing a little bit of sociology, anthropology, etc. is helpful. Or, at least lets you beam a smug smile and think you know what’s going on 🙂

  5. No, the present “civilized” environment is not representative of most of our history as a species. During most of our evolutionary history (tens of thousands of years), our natural environment culled out the stupid, diseased, and dysfunctional members of the herd; thereby causing each succeeding generation to become progressively more intelligent and robust. Our modern affluent society reverses this long term “natural” trend line. In a healthy ecosystem, irrationality should get you dead and out of the gene pool. But not anymore!

    • I am pretty confident that the omnipresence of electrical current paired with laboratory drugs has tweaked brain function in a way that gives a distinct generational character to our crazies. I don’t think you could get some of the lunacy we have unless you zap them with electricity and give them drugs that almost alter them at the atomic level. Look at these people, like the mug shots of antifa. Or the eyes of the school shooter.

    • “thereby causing each succeeding generation to become progressively more intelligent and robust.”

      By very tiny increments. Early death served mostly to keep harmful mutations to a tolerably low level. Two centuries after conquering childhood mortality, we are going insane from mutational overload.

    • So true. I remember a book, writing about the single mother and absent father dysfunctions of the slums, saying (approx.) “The welfare state has made social failure pay, in evolutionary terms.”

  6. In a civilization that is all topsy-turvy no one is where they belong doing what they were meant to do. To have adapted to it and to accept it as immutable or beyond present needs to disrupt … isn’t necessarily sanity. To shriek and howl and thrash against the cage … isn’t necessarily madness.

    • It’s interesting how the imagery and allusions of the insane asylum and psych ward work so perfectly for our current situation

  7. You touch upon the issue of scale, and I think that this is incredibly important facet to our decline. To me, it just does not seem that the civil society model is scalable at all. In every single village that I have lived in, and the others that I was well acquainted with,you see signs of mutual trust in ones neighbours; for example, home grown vegetables with a honesty box nearby. Or perhaps cars parked on the street with windows rolled down. Or yet again people leaving their doors unlocked when they pop to the shops. This model of living,… Read more »

  8. Do you mean like the lie known as the “American Dream”?  It’s interesting that this term was only recently coined by James Adams in his 1931 book “Epic of America” where he described it as “…that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement.”.  The American Dream is now nothing more than a dystopian reality. A nightmare existence rather than a dream to be realized as the world watches in disbelief. Believe me when I say, there was a time when Europeans believed… Read more »

      • No, it’s not. It’s a matter of perspective.

        If you lived through an exhausting world war in which many of your friends and relatives died, or a crippling recession/depression… the idea of a small house, a mortgage, cutting the grass and shining the car on weekends would be bliss.

        • Glen, there have been wars throughout human existence. And people didn’t merely have friends and relatives die – they had their own immediate family members raped and murdered in front of them. They didn’t experience a depression but an occupation and a life of impoverished servitude. The ‘American’ lifestyle was a brief and artificial and unsustainable period in human history.

    • If you think voting is the only option and we have no real choices on either side, what do you propose Americans to do?
      As I write this I notice Merkel is still in office. Do you have something better in the pipeline to replace her?

      • Germans have the American problem, but worse. America is the tyranny of the present, but Americans have some vague memories of a past where things were not as they are now. There was a better time. The hope is to return to that better time. Germans, in contrast, have only one memory and they must fee from it until exhaustion.

        That’s why Merkel will die in office. Germans have no past, so they have no future.

        • Have known quite a few Germans. They positively wallowed in their guilt. It was practically a competition among them as to who could be the most ashamed of their past, which in their minds, consisted only of the years 1933 to 1945. The other couple of thousand years didn’t matter.

          I used to feel bad for them. Now, we’re the same. Our past is slavery, stealing land, oppressing women (though I suspect that this will get dropped due to being associated with White women), and Jim Crow, nothing else. Pathetic.

          • I read a piece from Putin about WWII someplace. One thing of interest was how he spoke of the Commies: `Look, there is a lot for them to answer for, but as a historical period in a nation with a 1,000 year history, we will leave it at that.’ Prudent.

          • Yes. I innocently trolled some German acquaintances by singing “Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles”, at a private sportsball viewing, knowing the first stanza of their national anthem is verboten.

            They did not appreciate the joke. I got away with it because I was just an uncultured Dane, but they were visibly shaken and told me, grave as a 6′ hole in the ground, that I had done something terrible and would most likely be shipped off to a camp if I did it in public.

          • As in America, our politicians are terrified of anything associated with Nationalism. While you fly your flag with pride everywhere you go, we only fly it when we’re in the world cup. And quietly.

          • It’s a joke that when old Germans sing our national anthem, they have to use their left hand to prevent their right hand from coming up.

          • In his mind, there’s no difference in murdering 20-million peasants vs. 6-million intellectuals. The Nazi’s wasted the best and brightest of our Grandfathers on both fronts. And topped it off by murdering bankers and business men who contributed to the financial stability of our country.
            Everyone seems to forget it was German of all religions who brought us out of the depression of the 1930’s Our Austrian chancellor was certainly happy to take credit for it and Germans celebrated him. Which is why no one expected what followed.

        • My German relatives refused to buy what was being sold to them, kept their cultural pride in being German, got labeled as Nazis, decided to own it, got pushed into relative poverty and loss of work, and couldn’t go anywhere without constant “papers please”, pat downs, and searches of parcels and baggage. They were made to pay a heavy price for their insolence, a price claimed from them by their own fellow Germans.

        • What’s even crappier is that Germans’ history has been forbidden to them by America, and ultimately by the small hats who run it and everything else. Talk about tyranny.

          • Not true. Our student know all about our history and quite well I might add. Ask a random university student on the street the significance of 1871 for Germany. Unlike Americans university students, half of whom have no idea of the significance of 1776.

          • Well, a big part of American ignorance stems from American diversity. You don’t yet have that problem in Germany.

          • Oh, regarding history in totality you are absolutely correct – most Americans are over-credentialed idiots. I’m speaking more in a spiritual sense, perhaps? I’m not expressing myself concisely here, but it seems the world (led by the US led by the usual suspects) has conspired to deny Germans a natural pride in their history and an exaggerated guilt for the failures that all men and nations experience.

          • I’ve read that, if you only consider caucasian America, we are intellectually on par with Europe (e.g. education outcome). Sounds plausible.

          • That is absolutely correct. Control for race and “America’s” numbers in all sorts of categories improve dramatically.

        • Other than the immigration debacle, Germans generally have a very good opinion of Merkel. Germany has been in good shape economically and financially under her direction. Unlike her predecessor and mentor Kohl, she’s as honest as the day is long with no dark secrets or skeletons in her closet which is more than one can say of many US Presidents or Europeans either. Just look at the French, Macron? Seriously? Married to his 20-year older former teacher? Disgusting.  Germans are known for many things, but forgiveness isn’t one of them. Not themselves and not each other. One of our Presidents… Read more »

        • If you have Netflix or some other cable movie channel, I highly recommend the movie “Er ist wieder da” or in English “He’s Here Again” or perhaps advertised as “Look who’s back”..

          It’s an excellent an thought provoking movie about Hitler appearing from the past into modern Germany. Terribly funny. In German of course, but should be available with English subtitles.

          Jo Jo Rabbit is also wonderful.

          • I watched that movie a few years ago on Netflix of all things. It was funny but it made me angry.

          • The movie was hilarious. However, I’m not sure most Americans would see the rye humor in it—like the repeatedly ignored Hitler as he interacted among a new, post war, German nation. Always wanted to talk to a German who saw it.

    • Not voting is a vote against the system and it’s the first step in real dissidence.

      If you vote in November – at least for anything beyond local offices like Sheriff – you’re not tall enough for this ride yet. State and national politics are entirely fake & gay at this point.

      • I agree Not participating will drive them nuts, if enough choose to do it It’s the one card we hold but never play. They need just enough votes to give the impression and meet a standard of a legitimate decision by the people. If instead 50 people show up to vote, they become a worldwide laughingstock. In local elections, they don’t care how many show up. But it matters in federal because it carries weight in terms of the projection of might. Not voting will force them to come to us on their knees begging, and then we can start… Read more »

        • It won’t exactly force them but it will remove their aura of legitimacy. Once they lose that, real mass organized disobedience and non-compliance becomes possible.
          Things like general strikes are what apply the pressure.

          #WhiteStrike is a meme we must continue to push.

          • I wonder if a side benefit of this Covid thing is to inform them as to what would happen if all of a sudden 25 million people (whites) stopped working for a month in protest

            What the economic ramifications would be

            They are always busy planning for things like this because actual governing is no longer their purpose. It’s only about preserving and protecting the institution

          • Sort of like taking participation in your Home Owner’s Association to the national level 😀

      • Ahem, I use the we are not voting our way out of this rhetoric too. But it is to encourage whites to organize to advocate on their own behalf outside the present system. What you are doing here is indistinguishable, in effect, from the leftist goal. Suppressing the Trump vote. For what, some marginal effect on legitimacy? White strike? Give me a break, whites have families to feed. Now is the time to play for time, organize those of us that understand what’s the game with the goal of educating the rest. Why would you employ your excellent rhetoric to… Read more »

    • Our American Dream, such as it was and had been conceived, is being stolen from us. We are not allowed to have nice things. Taking them away from us is being seen to.

      • It was never stolen from you, it was off-shored. Then they bound everyone to a debt economy when you willingly put those credit cards you never applied for, straight out of the mail box and into your wallets..
        But please – feel free to explain why no whites own or run 7-11’s instead of only foreigners. Why no whites own or run dry cleaners. Or car washes.
        Are whites just too proud or too lazy?
        Perhaps Americans need to wake up from their dream and grasp the concept of reality, and hard work, with both hands.

        • IMO our native whites have been atomized by what has been made of our education, civics, the church (such as it is), and so on. People work on their own. Common among 7-11 operators, budget hoteliers, and dry cleaners is the willingness to throw a whole extended family at the enterprise, and to bring in friends and neighbors as well. It truly is hard work for the money, and being a lawyer, teacher, or banker is a whole lot easier in many ways, and generally much more lucrative. Also, a stigma has been attached to most versions of manual labor.… Read more »

        • We just had a new roof put on and I was talking with the White company owner. In his words, the Asians he hired demanded the most and acted as though they were doing him a favor. The blacks (predictably) were incredibly lazy. The Whites did fine until the first paycheck, after which they disappeared until they had pissed it all away on women, dope, and booze. I mentioned that is the situation on the Indian reservations – signs of a conquered people with no hope for the future.

          • A majority of the roofers where I live are Amish. I had a crew put a roof on a house for me last summer. They knocked it out in one day.

          • Unfortunately, this crew was all Mexicans (you literally cannot find anyone else to do that sort of work here in Texas). They did have a White boss, however, and they did the house yesterday and the garage this morning. Next comes replacing and painting the wooden portions of the house (primarily on the back) + new gutters. All for the ‘modest’ price of about $22k.

          • I asked my roofer (white) point blank if he employed illegals. He laughed and said he’ll make sure not to use them on my house. I said I’m not joking, did he want the job or not. The crew showed up all white.

          • Yep, that’s a big problem here. Lots of White front men, who smooth talk the customer and bring in a Mexican crew. Hell, last time they didn’t even have a crew member who spoke English. Now these guys were nice enough, but really. Why do I have to call the business owner to tell the crew simple things? And it’s not a matter of them pretending not to understand, they were legitimately initiating the questions concerning the job.

        • Whites are not Chinese or Indians, hence they don’t necessarily pull for the common good of the clan. Many Indians who own 7-11’s got their startup funding from fellow family/clan members. Chinese immigrant families live close and pool their funds, often to send the best and brightest to University.

          So on and so forth. It also helps that such foreigners are willing to work 16 hours and day and live in the back of the store. Americans today simply won’t do this to the extent other groups do. They’ve not had to. But that will change as their status changes.

  9. To add to the comment re empty hospitals…my wife is an APP at a local hospital…she along with hundreds of others was furloughed in May, then she received a new contract with a 10% pay reduction, on Thursday 7/16 she was laid off.
    That evening I had dinner with a former colleague who informed me the hospital had received $40 million in bailout money in June.
    This type of stuff is happening everywhere.

    • As ZMan would say, it’s the big bust out

      My Uncle is a doctor and the crap he’s telling my parents and them relaying to me is unbelievable

        • Just the basics. How they are inflating numbers for extra money. And how the money is going to peoples’ heads and it’s like a situation where they are competing like salesmen to see who can who can reach the highest sales quota for the month. And in some cases it’s the opposite, because the guidelines relax as cases go down so there is incentive to not test people. The medical profession is a racket.

  10. > Their blind loyalty to Trump and the old America is more endearing, but just as disconnected from reality as the “Trump is Hitler” stuff. 
    You just wait. Barr is going to blow this thing wide open and all the demonrats are going down. Trust the plan.

    • From your keyboard to God’s ears but wait – I thought GW Bush was “Hitler” or was that “McChimpyBushHitlerHalliburton”, okay then but I heard GHW Bush was “Hitler” & before him Reagan was “Hitler”…
      See the pattern? According to the Left EVERY REPUBLICAN IS “HITLER”!!!
      Tired, worn out tripe along with the “racist” label.
      Sidenote: agree Barr & Durham: heads will roll.

  11. We are being overrun by the the new ability of the fringe to communicate. There were just as many people with their own thoughts 50 years but they were separated and did not have the ability to organize.
    They were just multiple points on a map in any town, city, county, state, across America.
    The internet has molded them into one, not just locally or nationally, but globally. Floyd Boy hysteria went international. How amazing is that.
    Separate they could not react and attack as whole. United, well, I see no end in sight.

    • True.

      Also, our women are extraordinarily susceptible to to lunatic partisanship. The most zealous promoters of the flu are shitlib women who are using it to pose as heroes and brave victims to feed their emotions.
      When you see an entire electoral demographic throwing out observable realities in favour of drama and histrionics – I will guarantee you that the majority of that demographic are women.

      • “…women are extraordinarily susceptible to lunatic partisanship”
        Bingo. Worsened by the feminization of males. The most obnoxious femi-nazis, in my personal experience, have been males.
        These are the guys who should have been bullied correctly in school, as they were in saner times.
        We need physical bullying back.

        • Getting bullied was great for me; it thickened my skin and quickened my wit. Plus, some of the shit we called each other in high school still makes me bust out laughing a decade later.

          • Yep, but we used to call it hazing

            It’s critical to coming out of your childhood as a normal functioning young man

    • Mass media strongly influences the minds of the people who virtue signal on the internet. Whichever side controls the mass media wins.

  12. Again, social media is a YUGE culprit in this mess. It allows every insane partisan fanatic to confirm and revel in their insanity with other like minded tards. Just like the juvenile jogger who is causing TJs to roll over and wet themselves due to raciss packaging or something. It is truly the work of the devil.

    • Social media is the best thing that has happened to freedom of speech since the typeset press.

      Without social media, Hillary Clinton would be president.

      • Some mediums have their good points, such as this place. But the twitters and instagrams are truly the lunatic fringe. Frankly, enough people realized hrc would have been a nightmare, social media or no.

          • Seriously, anyone in this country who pays attention to politics and the Clinton crime foundation for the past 25+ years has known she was a big time psycho – even more so than good ‘ole slick willy himself.

      • “Without social media, Hillary Clinton would be president.”

        Without social media, how much traction would BLM have gained?

  13. Not that it helps much at this point but in the interest of identifying root causes I think it is clear that allowing women to vote on anything but school lunch menus was a fatal blow to the republic. You could look at it another way and assume responsibility, we failed to recognize the opportunity represented by manipulating women’s emotions for political gain. That opportunity still exists since their nature is unchanging. What buttons to push? Fundamentals to keep in mind, they HATE HATE HATE assuming moral responsibility for anything, the mental gymnastics to avoid it are amazing to observe… Read more »

      • I’m focused on how to use ‘what is’ to our political advantage. We can worry about ‘what should be’ if and when we are ever in the driver’s seat again.

        • Human nature hasn’t changed and I’d bet most of the current mess has been caused by going against it.

    • It stopped being a Republic some time ago and then became a money making enterprise and basically a landholding corporation like the East India Company I know when my people came here in the 1900s that it was not a republic in the sense we think of. There were vestiges of the Republic, mainly because the people from the days of the Republic were numerous and you couldn’t just make them go away. But at the governmental level it had become a corporation and the immigrants were brought here as little more than employees to bring wealth to the shareholders… Read more »

    • “…they HATE HATE HATE assuming moral responsibility for anything, the mental gymnastics to avoid it are amazing to observe…” Truer words have never been spoken…

  14. Ah, people? Perception truly IS reality. Locked as we are within vault of bone, our only contact with “reality” is via our sensorium as filtered by our perceptual apparatus. There is – nor can there be – no other “reality” – period. At best we share a consensual reality. It occurs to me that the so called “insane” are not zo much INsane as DIFFERENTLY (otherly?) sane. And someone CAN deceive themselves if they choose to do so. I’m reminded of the exchange between Alice and the Red Queen in Carroll’s immortal “Through The Looking Glass” “There’s no use trying,”… Read more »

    • Barack and Michelle calmly and quietly left the White House in 2017, but left their henchmen in high government places to do their coup-related dirty work for them. All the familiar names. In a sense, they never really did leave. But he wussed out by pretending to keep his own hands clean while the others still in place to do the dirty work. Because that’s the kind of person he is.

      • Oh come now.
        Barry Soetoro was a puppet. Doing his masters’ bidding.
        The guy couldn’t navigate his way out of a paper bag with a compass, flashlight, and the North Star pointed out to him.
        And remember: he is also a musloid who “plays for the other team.”
        in time, those points will be revealed.

    • I’m starting to doubt that the election results can even be properly tallied and certified. Also think of what must be going through the minds of the electors (Electoral College). A judge who was part of the Epstein case just had her son murdered in a well planned hit that included the hit man being dressed up in a fake Fed-Ex uniform. Then the hit man “commits suicide”. Everyone responsible for vote counting must be wondering if they will also be vulnerable to this kind of thing. Add to this the known problems with illegals voting and the chaos introduced… Read more »

  15. With regards to the Trump bashing, Z – you have to shit or get off the pot. According to you (and I concur) – the Left is ginning itself up for political murder. Guys like you and I are viable threats and targets to them. What do you expect Trump to do for you? Are you and the dissidents prepared to go to war with him if he starts the civil war that the left is jonesing for? What do you expect him to do against activist judges that infest the judiciary right up to and including the supremes? What… Read more »

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