Travelogue: Normieville

I’ve been traveling this week to the lands where the great white normie is most common, which means the Midwest and southwest. If you don’t travel much or your travel is limited to the coasts, it is easy to forget that America is a big country with a diverse culture. As I’m fond of saying, it is a mansion with many rooms. Even though we have a lot in common, there are a lot of differences between the regions. Put another way, we already had all the diversity we needed. There was no reason to import more of it.

Unlike the coasts, the Midwest and southwest is where you can still find lots of heritage America and lots of heritage Americans. In the upper Midwest, there is an early 1960’s vibe to things that you don’t get on the coast. I’m speaking culturally, not technologically or materially. They have all the same stuff everyone else has. The Southwest has the old Mex-American – Western culture, but layered over it is the Midwest culture that reflects the people who moved there by the millions the last few decades.

The result for me this week was like stepping back in time. That’s not to say these people are throwbacks. It’s just that the echoes of old America can still be heard when socializing and even doing business. They still trade business cards at conferences and enjoy wearing name tags. They will walk right up to you and start using your name, having read it off your name tag. There is a genuineness about the people of the Midwest you rarely see on the coasts these days. It’s all very wholesome and normal…

I did a little drinking with a guy from Minnesota, who spent a considerable amount of time telling me about the softball team he sponsors. His daughter used to play on the team, but he continued to sponsor the team after she moved on. He sounded like a character from the movie Fargo, so it added to the old world charm. I could not help but wonder why anyone thought thought this sort of community spirit needed to be replaced with the crude transactionalism of cosmopolitan globalism, but then I remembered who was behind it…

I was amused in the airport over the weekend by the people watching the Kavanaugh vote on the big television screens. The airport is a good reminder that very few people watch CNN and that most people ignore politics. The big screen had a few young single women watching the vote, one was in tears. A smaller screen had the Texas – Oklahoma football game on and it was surrounded by people cheering the game. It’s a nice reminder that to most people, these events are not all that important or emotional…

The funny thing that I learned is that the rank and file liberal male really does think Kavanaugh is a serial rapist. I ran into a group of guys from Northern California who described themselves as liberal Republicans. They really wanted me to know they were sick to their stomach about what was happening in Washington, especially with what Trump is doing to the Republicans party. They really seemed to be convinced that Kavanaugh spends his nights stalking and raping middle-aged white women

It’s an odd form of virtue signalling, because it has no audience. I asked one of them why he bothers being in a party that opposes everything he supports, when he could join the other party. California is a one party state now, for the most part. It’s an obvious question that they apparently did not consider, but they did not like me asking it. I suspect this type has been doing the concern troll act for so long it is as much a part of who they are as breathing and walking upright. They no longer realize it is a pose…

At dinner one night I was seated next to a young guy and he revealed that he had an interest in the human sciences. We talked a bit and he was floored to hear that I did not think environment has much to do with how you turn out. I was surprised at first, given that he is bright and has an interest in the subject, but then I remembered that he is of a generation that has been immersed in the blank slate theology. I did my best to red pill him on some things, but the presence of heresy vexed him greatly. I felt like Lucifer…

For a long time I resisted going to things like AmRen or Mencken because I imagined them to be academic conferences full of old racists. It was not the latter that worried me, but the former. I don’t like conferences. There’s something old fashioned and dated about how they are organized. I’ve been in the workplace for three decades now and the business conference has not changed much, in terms of organization. The same is true of the academic conference. It’s still 1950’s America with these things.

That said, there is no replacing in-person interaction. You inevitably learn things about people that makes it possible to see them in three dimensions. The internet and telephone don’t allow for that. One event I attended seemed to get that aspect and built the thing around the socializing, rather than building the social elements around the event. It was quite effective as it not only felt more modern, but allowed to people to customize the event to their tastes. The result was a much more relaxed and enjoyable experience.

What occurred to me though is the old style business or academic conference was built on the assumption that you had a social life outside of your professional life. Men had families. Women had kids. People gained their social happiness outside of their work life, so at a conference, it needed to be all business. Today, people work longer, travel more and have disorderly personal lives. Work events are often the times when they get to socialize and relax. Old world America would not recognize us now…

Phoenix Arizona is the least authentic place on earth, I think. In fact, most of the Southwest, including California, feels like the QVC of cultures. Everything is new and everything is clean, relative to the east coast. That said, there is something to say for everything being new and in good working g order. Streets without craters is something we don’t have here in Lagos. You can’t beat the weather, which is why so many Boomers moved there, but I like four seasons, so I will stay on the coast I think…

I talked to a guy about California. I mentioned that half the state does not speak English and he responded by claiming the economy depends on Mexican immigrants. I did not challenge him on it, as there would have been no point. I mention it as a reminder that lots of white people still believe the open borders mythology, because they still think the point of life is increasing the GDP. They will literally sacrifice themselves and their posterity to the the economy god. A lifetime of worship is hard to overcome…

I was drinking with some guys who were very nice and very Midwestern. I noticed that they went to great pains to correct me when I said “black” instead of “African-American”, which I found rather annoying. No black people use that ridiculous phrase, unless they are around whites. Eventually they stopped and after a few drinks one asked me why I used the term black. He asked in a hushed voice like he was asking me for drugs. I told him that black people prefer black so I use black. He was quite shocked to hear it.

I’ve run into this a lot and it is a good reminder that most white and especially liberal white people, have no clue about how black people live and think. Blacks have become objects of worship or objects of fear. Even in the South, this cultural distance is starting to creep in as they are whipped into conformity by the dominant culture. The people who talk the most about race relations, know the least about it and they have the least humanity toward black people. In the future, old racists will be the last friend of the black man…

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Dtbb
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Dtbb

Right. In my neck of the woods people are black, white or spanish.

this side toward enemy
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this side toward enemy

Here in TX it’s black, white or messkin.

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

Here in Tucson, it’s black, white, or nothing–everyone else is either Indian or Spanish or Hispanic, which is the norm but never spoken. In fact, race is rarely mentioned here.

Dirtnapninja
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The entirety of the western world is becoming like that move A Quiet Place, where the white family dare not make a peep or the monsters will attack.

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In Michigan I never hear African American. Black or the other verboten one. (Who corrects someone’s speech?)

Pickup trucks everywhere owned by most who don’t need em, with trailer hitches no less.

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Thanks for the reminder, Z, that normal Americans with normal lives still exist. Living in the 95 corridor of Maryland, it’s easy to forget. Growing up in Harford County, there used to be that character of normal American life where complete strangers would strike up a conversation and walk away with smiles on their faces. Now people often treat you like a creep for just being friendly and you get the nervous over-the-shoulder glances to make sure you’re not following them. Damn the Progs.

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Highspeed2

“Now people often treat you like a creep for just being friendly”

I learned that the hard way my first year of employment after college almost 25 years ago. I was shocked at how mean and surly a lot of people are. I’m from the South and the toxic behavior a lot of people display would get them an ass kicking where I’m from.

And yes, simply being friendly these days is a sign of weakness.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

NYC is like that 🙂

jaqship
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jaqship

And, unfortunately, a sign of myopia, if #MeToo-ish women are present.
Trouble is, most #MeToo-ish women tend not to make it easy to scope them out.

Drake
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The more distance you put between yourself and cities like Boston, New York, and Baltimore, the more normals you encounter. I live 50 miles due west of NYC – it’s much closer to normal than the city. Another 50 miles west and you are in heritage America territory.

Clayton Bigsby
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Having grown up there (40 miles due west) i can tell you that once “78” was completed out that far, much of “The City” and NE NJ relocated there…accelerating the decline of the colloquial normal ….voting themselves and their progressive agendas onto the local school boards was just the beginning ….Up to that point, The Johnson’s, the Merck’s, the Forbes’s, and Brady’s…to name a few… all lived there under the radar, in harmony, with the blue collar middle class and local farmers… supporting the communities, even serving on some of the volunteer fire companies prior to that invasion that hit… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

Where I grew up in MA was as nice a normie farm town as you could imagine. Now it’s a prog suburb of Boston.

Clayton Bigsby
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Clayton Bigsby

Yep…like a toilet overflowing…Happens everywhere… Now closer to what Z was talkin about, I’m more like 800 miles west (but north) and it was like taking a time machine …. the dems here are more old school and many probably voted republican….locally and nationally….for them the label is still of some importance…. but there’s still a deep seated sense of right and wrong ….not of entitlement and discrimination…

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@Clayton:
Totally agree with you about 78W out from “The City.”
I have family still up there, and we’d drive up from what I now call Sodom-on-the-Potomac (TM), It used to be lovely and normal in then 70s, 80s, and even during the early 90s.
But no more.
Heck, even current-day “Sodom” didn’t feel in the 80s like it does today (in a good way).
I could have grown up in Ohio, Michigan, or any other wholesome place, given my upbringing and parents’ wholesome values.
The nostalgia is strong….

Clayton Bigsby
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Yeah, Carrie, Paradise Lost. The ironic thing is that I worked and lived in the city from the 80’s until a week before 9/11 ….and would inevitably encounter these “ interlopers” at functions and parties and listen to them expound at length on how they (and their oh so close dear friends) had collectively brought their new quaint country communities up to modern standards of decorum….in one instance taking a local (4 generation) general store to court, to have ancient dust covered “banned inhumane” leg traps removed from the 100 y/o bead-board walls, because they were offensive to their sensibilities….… Read more »

Othmar
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This is really disheartening that people need to get mugged or assaulted by a black thug to become race-realists it’s not enough for them to spend half a day on the internet and do some research.. oh well they all will be “culturally enriched” one day or the other so I say give them more! the sooner the better For example I am from Evrope and I have not seen a ni* ..err a black-man till I was in my 20tys but I knew they where no good way before then so how come do people who lived around them… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

They get it (in the midwest) they just don’t want to acknowledge it because it conflicts with their view of human nature. So they try and pretend it isn’t real.

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Speaking of conflicting with ones view…today on The Wilkow Majority, Andrew was almost in tears, as he related that some chick who was a frequent guest on his show, described Kanye West as a “token negro”.
Chucks can’t believe when Joe acts like Joe, and circle the wagons.
In addition, he said she wasn’t black; which was impossible, as if she was anything else, she would have been thrown into the void.

jaqship
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Othmar, I’ll bet that most of these folks have no idea, of where on the web they should go. If, in Europe, you learned about blacks from talking to those who had actually dealt face-to-face with them, you had a head start. However, even that head start depends somewhat on luck, since it’s not as if so many blacks are always *so* much worse than whites. Non-ghetto blacks are fairly good at mimicking whites, when that serves their interests. Had I not learned (from the best of the web) that black opinion leaders are publicly egging blacks on, to hate… Read more »

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I think you need to check your premise when stating that one has to be mugged or assaulted by a black, to become a race realist. Once upon a time, I responded to a robbery in progress at a gas station. It wasn’t my job, but I rolled on it, as I was only a few blocks away. Upon arrival, a thirty something white female was shaking and crying. She related that a man had stuck a gun in her stomach, took her purse and keys, and drove away in her car. When I asked her to describe the individual,… Read more »

jaqship
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jaqship

It may not have been virtue signaling.
Right after that crap experience, the last thing she needed was to get into a sh*tstorm, over her making a non-PC remark.
Depending on which part of the country you were in, she could well have feared, that you’d have pressure from the top local brass, to report all breaches of PC “manners”.

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You know what even be better about your story? That you weren’t a cop.
(Well, you said you responded 🙂

I know of someone in retail who called the police for shoplifting and assault by a black guy. The manager and employee both hemmed and hawed because they were afraid to mention race. Finally a black female employee got frustrated and said “My god he was black , would you just say it!”

james wilson
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james wilson

A true believer will not red pill after he is mugged, he’ll apologize for temping the mugger. https://twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/1050224042232299520

Bill
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Bill

I would recommend Lind’s “Victoria” as an interesting perspective on the AQ in a “reset” environment.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

That was unreadable. The first chapter has an IRL website to visit.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

“Victoria” WAS quite unreadable, warnt it

Steven G Johnson
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Steven G Johnson

I didn’t think it was unreadable. They had to deal with things we’ve avoided for generations, when the design margin finally ran out, and did so realistically but as kindly as possible. Probably more kindly than possible, but it’s supposed to be a hopeful story.

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

I didn’t have any problem with it, why do you say that?

Dutch
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Dutch

Every last visible part of our culture in media and entertainment comes out of either New York/DC or L.A./California. I play a game with the popular media items “New York or California?”. The rest of who we are is invisible.

Gerard VanderLeun has a great piece overnight on American Digest about the West Virginia coal miners. In our popular culture, they don’t exist, except as some sort of cultural zoo animals to be gawked at.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

I recently (couple of years ago) had a contract position in Kansas City. The office I was working in was on the outskirts of the city, very near a nest of negroes. They had recently killed the nearby mall which was deserted and sad. Of course there are plenty of malls like that in the Midwest that negroes didn’t kill. Also saw/heard some negro ladies there that sounded and acted completely white, un-self conscientiously;to the point I had to work hard not to stare. Also saw white janitors! If you are in Cali much, you know how unusual that is.… Read more »

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If you drove 1.5 miles from KS to MS then you had some sort of flux capacitor on your vehicle.

Mildly ironic that you botch third grade geography in one paragraph then deride the talent pool of KC in the next.

Steve
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Steve

Postal abbreviations of states aren’t third grade geography. From context, he clearly meant MO.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

yep, sorry about that. the experience was semi-traumatic 😛

Drake
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Drake

I go to eastern Kansas a few times a year for work. The place is as normie as it gets – and yes, the blacks and whites seem to behave in very similar ways. Yes it’s boring, that is how they like it.

jaqship
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jaqship

If that is how they like it. that is how it should be.

Few things piss me off more, than hearing the “cultured” elites sneer, at how little “culture” flyover America has.
If the Flyovers have the web, then they have culture, in the most crucial sense of that term: the ability to access valuable (e.g. historical) info or insight, which they can’t get to in their immediate environment.

Clayton Bigsby
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Clayton Bigsby

Well….at least you DO have Athur Bryants….

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton

If a man likes pig, Kansas City is the place to indulge.

A B
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A B

Joe’s KC is better. ✌️

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That was depressing

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

I’ve noticed over the years that whites who have good friends who are black or gets along well with blacks, tend to be open about talking or joking about racial differences. It’s like they feel no guilt because they know they’re not sinister, since after all, they actually do like these black people in their lives. I first noticed this several years ago, when a white co-worker friend of mine who has a black friend who was his best man at his wedding, openly (in front of several others) talked about the stereotype of the way black people decorate their… Read more »

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

As I was writing this, I thought of Jared Taylor, who used to (maybe still does?) play in a blues band with some black guys.

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Last night I on Sailer I read his post about cat ladies resorting to “magic” in the wake of the Supreme Court confirmation, and my thought was: “Maybe this is what winning will be: gaslighting the enemy into abject irrationality and ineffectuality.” But then reading some of Z’s account here, I think: “Maybe the cause is already lost: too many don’t even realize there’s a war on; have been brainwashed into a kind of magical thinking of their own.” I guess one of the key insights of the Right is that things are always getting better AND worse at the… Read more »

jaqship
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Chris, people *will* increasingly realize that there’s a war on, when cat ladies or blacks pull sh*t, that becomes so famous, so fast, that these antics become the Talk of the Country.
Like we saw in the recent Senate Hearings, the foes of white (and male) America just can’t stop themselves, from rubbing Heritage America’s noses, into how barbaric they can be.

jaqship
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jaqship

Meanwhile, you also have word getting around, about the Sarah Jeongs’ dreams of white Extinction.
But, unless she says that in a nationwide TV extravaganza, it’ll a slower process, than the galvanizing one launched by the recent Senate Hearings.

Gravity Denier
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Gravity Denier

“Things are never as bad — or as good — as they seem.”
–La Rochefoucauld

miforest
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miforest

I live in detroit. it is hard to believe how naive and proged the normies who live far from diversity are

Highspeed2
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Highspeed2

“he responded by claiming the economy depends on Mexican immigrants.”

This guy had to have been a Boomer. My experience with Boomers is that they are completely unable to wrap their minds around the concept of “foreigner.” Any mention of tens of millions of Mexicans living here is met with, “So what?” They. Don’t. Care.

Boomers have pathological xenophilia.

The Normies and the Boomers won’t “wake up” until they are personally affected by all this madness. The Founders didn’t give us Universal Suffrage for a reason. They understood normies.

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They won’t wake up to it at all. The ability of the human brain to manufacture false excuses or justifications for what is right in front of them is huge. They will go to their graves thinking that everything would have been perfect if Reagan and Trump hadn’t stirred the pot, and that the Clintons and Obamas had been permitted to run rampant. It is how they think.

miforest
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miforest

yep

Drake
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Drake

It’s also a corporate thing. They just want to sell Fruit Loops and sneakers and cell phones. They don’t care if it’s to middle class white folks or Mexicans on welfare – as long as sales keep going up.

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Gravity Denier

A few years ago, after a conference I attended, I was unwinding at the San Diego hotel bar and got into conversation with the bartender, who was one of the managers. I casually (and naively, I guess) used the term “Mexican invasion.” The manager froze up. “Mexican invasion? What are you talking about? I hire Hispanics because they show up on time and work hard.” He managed to add, without explicitly saying so, that his workers not only satisfied “diversity” criteria but made it unnecessary to employ unsatisfactory blacks. I thought about mentioning cultural and linguistic issues, but realized it… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

That guy is a fukkin retard. The illegals are a huge drain on the public coffers, they overwhelm social services, they destroy the infrastructure, and last but not least they commit astronomical levels of crime. Noticed that one of the local fast food joints has replaced the Mexicans with Asians.

Where’s that guy who had a bag on his head (for an icon); I liked his stories.

Ursula
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Ursula

**Paging El Baboso**

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

This post made me think of a book I read 15, maybe 20 years ago. I can’t remember the name of the author, but he was a reporter who worked in Washington DC, and decided at age 52, to bicycle across the USA from Virginia to Los Angeles. Travelling by bicycle, he really got to know the people and the land. The book was filled with observations and one was his comparison of the middle of the country, flyover land, to the Northeast Megalopolis. He thought the way people interacted, the food, customs, manners, beliefs etc. were from a different… Read more »

Kip Benson
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Kip Benson

Are you guys going to be on suicide watch when the BLUE TSUNAMI DESTORYS the right wing in November

thud
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most certainly not, we leave the hysterics and over reaction to you and your friends, we have lives, family and jobs to be getting on with but do dream on.

Tax Slave
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I hear your ma$ter is running short on cash. About time to destroy the currency of another Baltic state.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Heh. NATO to Slovenia: “Hellooo, good-lookin”

ExPraliteMonk
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ExPraliteMonk

Fortunately my Christian faith teaches that if you’re on the right path, the world will reject you. This makes for pleasant surprises when things actually go my way.

DLS
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DLS

Very good! Reminds of something George Will said, before Trump caused him to lose his mind. He said he was a pessimist because 90% of the time you’re right, and the other 10% you are delighted to be wrong.

Chad Thundercock
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Chad Thundercock

No, but you will.

Flair 1239
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No. I can’t speak for others, but I believe the Republic will dissolve. It is just a question of how violent the dissolution.

So a “Blue Tsunami” does not really change the equation that much.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

is that you Jordan Hunt?

miforest
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miforest

we have no delusions here. they run everything now . trump is slowing them down a little , thats all . It’s worthwhile , but The leviathan rolls on .

jaqship
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jaqship

“The people who talk the most about race relations, know the least about it and they have the least humanity toward black people. In the future, old racists will be the last friend of the black man…” Yeah, Zman, the way that the MSM carries on about these matters, you’d think that, in the pre- Civil Rights laws era, life for Southern blacks was just a tiny rung or two better than Treblinka. Insofar as Jim Crow had occasional unfair aspects (incl. lynchings), how much worse, or more common, were they, than is the current atmosphere toward white males in,… Read more »

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Look how many nigs have been killed by other nigs. White man is a piker by comparison.

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Frank

I moved to Rochester NY for 5 years for work. The people up there are so nice that when I got there I was very suspicious of them. Coming from Balt / Washington, you naturally feel like they want something from you, buy, after a few years, you realize that they are just really nice people. Unlike the eastern side of NY, western NY is very conservative and the talk radio stations are almost universally liberal. It is sort of the reverse of this area. Half of my work team is based out of central Iowa and I went to… Read more »

Tax Slave
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Zman, the reason we don’t have as many potholes here in the SW is that the temperature sway from season to season is not as dramatic as say, Kinshasa on the Detroit River or Lagos on the Chesapeake. OTOH the roads do literally bend in the heat and they get quite wobbly in places.

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Z wrote: “they still think the point of life is increasing the GDP. They will literally sacrifice themselves and their posterity to the the economy god. ” Oh that has been the GOP mantra for the masses for last 40 odd years. The economy god is all Limbaugh and all the other GOP talking heads spewed it all the time. It’s how they sold their listeners on NAFTA, “free-trade”, etc. “it’s good for he economy”. It was actually amazing feat of manipulation, they convinced millions of white Americans to vote against their social and economic interests. While the elites hollowed… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Most whites are atomized individuals who put their own personal economic advancement above all else and assume that non-whites do as well.

My normie conservative brother keeps announcing, out of the blue, that black and Hispanic unemployment is at an all-time low. He believes that if all people see their salaries increase, then other issues, like racial domination, will recede.

White normie conservatives can’t conceive that non-whites have a group motivation that supersedes their individual paychecks.

Clayton Bigsby
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Clayton Bigsby

“Whites are atomized individuals who put their own personal economic advancement above all else “

😜 try a treble hook next time…..

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It’s fun when you get the pod people out of their element. We’re in conservative Colorado – i.e. pretty much everywhere not named Denver and not connected to the ski-town/pot industry. I took my daughter to a short seminar given by several coastal ivy / ivy wannabe colleges. She’s interested in Stanford, not the others, but we went anyway. The highlight of the evening was when the Georgetown University recruiter got up to speak. A college inside the walls, looking inward. She spent almost 5 minutes talking about the Catholic heritage of the college, before stating that it is critically… Read more »

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hokkoda: Unfortunately, Stanford is no better. Just more expensive.

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They have a world class medical school and scientific research facilities. The culture garbage is on virtually every campus, but if you stay in the true sciences, engineering, math, and so forth, you tend to avoid a lot of the garbage.

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Dutch

You can watch the proggie ivy wannabies trying to calibrate their conversations and interactions with the alumni and prospective parents. Their dilemma is how to not freak out the alums/prospectives, while at the same time not triggering the on-campus harpies in the other direction. At the same time trying to hide the on-campus BLM and wymyn stuff that is actually going on. A complete “walking on eggshells” exercise that produces the most boring pablum possible. Their discussion of the Midwest culture, and the alumni who venture there, has evolved from descending into a pit of horribleness, to an expedition into… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Perhaps one of those noble explorers will gift us with a new “Heart of Darkness”.

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When I was in the AF, I was escorting a US Senator and his aide around the base during a big ceremony we had going on. I left the Senator with one of the Colonels, and went to find the aide. He was in my boss’ office on the phone talking loudly. I waited outside politely, but couldn’t help hear him as he mocked my boss for his silly rube name, trashed the base for being in corn country, trashed the people he had met as largely uneducated morons, etc. I have no idea who he was on the phone… Read more »

Joachim
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Joachim

I’m skeptical that the alums, especially the important (wealthy) ones, are fundamentally opposed to what their US universities have turned into. They’ve literally become initiatic mystery-schools of the new left-religion, to draw on Zman, yet they still fund/support them? I’m thinking the central, driving alums are part of, or aspire to, the same elite class, united across all institutions, that have steered us to where we are today.

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Just a tip: don’t assume the STEM classes are safe. Progs recognize that they’re the “last frontier” are pushing hard to corrupt them too.

Kendoka
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Kendoka

Yep!! Here’s one example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fanea5kcfg

fredcdobbs
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fredcdobbs

Chapman U in Orange, CA, had a BLM banner over the Library entrance shortly after the firestorm hit. And to say it was the appease the black kids on campus…….I’ve been there dozens of times, and I’ve seen about 6.

Here’s last year’s Men’s Basketball Team. (It’s a D-3 school, but….still!) LOL
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Yeah, it’s all virtue signaling. There’s a hilarious video making the rounds where some idiot college girl is calling the white men rapists and racists and whatnot. One of the guys points out that she was the only person to bring up race, and that she’s every bit the pampered suburban whitey that she hates them for being. Wish I could find it…

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I consider myself to be a museum exhibit.

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I lived in Arkansas for a few years. Then moved to SoCal. My gf from Arkansas would visit me in SoCal. She told me I was rude in my interactions with waitresses, fast food window cashiers, clerks. I had to explain to her that when employees say “welcommmmmm” or “hello how are you?” or “bye, thanks for coming”, the person doesn’t mean it, and expects you to know she doesn’t mean it. It doesn’t even require a response. My Southern sweetie could not accept this. And I know she wasn’t just trying to put my Yankee ass down. When I… Read more »

jaqship
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“Non-southerners love saying the Southern warmth is fake.”
How the hell would they *know*, unless, say, they got to stay with families there, where they’d get the real score (e.g. at the dinner table)?

On being rude to smoothy waitresses etc., I’ll bet that your GF would’ve been OK, had you just been *coldly* polite, or had you played dumb in a sort-of formal way.
Generally, you get more, or lose less, with more honey, and less vinegar.

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Jaq, I wasn’t rude. But through my GF’s Southern perception, I was rude. As for how would Northerners know Southerners are fake? They don’t. They don’t know shit. They visit for a week and think they’ve figured Southerner out. They visit the South with their preconceived hatred for “racists”. They experience Southern warmth as a disguise hiding something sinister underneath. They don’t want to give any non-progressive credit for anything. It’s the SJW mentality. Granted, not all Northerners are like this. Most normal people accept Southern sweetness at face value. Jaqship, are you from Amsterdam or something?

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Frip, I should’ve put “rude” in quotes, since you were quite clear that you were talking abut your GF’s view of it. I was only trying to give friendly advice. Maybe I was too succinct, evidently at the expense of clarity. No, I’m not a Dutchman. I’m a Midwesterner, with family experience in Southern and rural climes (esp. downstate IL, which is only technically part of the North; e.g. at a farm house with only a [separate] Outhouse, “rain, shine, or blizzard”). So, I’ve had good opportunity to get The Score at these family dinner tables, and I’ve nothing but… Read more »

jaqship
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“They experience Southern warmth as a disguise hiding something sinister underneath.”
Possibly because their bitter experience tells them, that so many in the North *really* do use such disguises, to such damaging effect.
Esp. the disguises of “educated” women.

ChrisZ
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It’s funny, Jaq: I’ve been very solicitous towards people my whole adult life. I’ll give a smile, friendly acknowledgement, treat people as peers and without condescension. Lately I’ve been having second thoughts about that whole approach. With the majority of people (I live in the Northeast) it barely even registers. And I’ve only infrequently been repaid in kind. I’m actually trying to tone down my friendliness. It’s not in me to be any kind of jerk; but I am trying to consciously give only a measured response in social situations, no more than required by politeness, and cut down on… Read more »

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*Very* thoughtful, Chris. Smiling is fine, when the mood takes you there, but I very rarely do it, unless I’m with very trusted people. Usually, trying to consciously give only a measured response is the wise course, in a country increasingly crawling (at least in cities) with “educated” hucksters and neurotics. You don’t need to smile, when trying to treat people as peers without condescension. For me, the way to establish an appropriate tone, is to use various gestures (e.g. with my hands, e.g. Thumbs Up, or “OK”) to imply great affirmation or attentiveness, when *deserved*. When I thereby tone… Read more »

Outdoorspro (former)
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Being in the military is a great eye-opener to the intimate details of different races, especially in tight living areas like on Navy ships. Being in the room with a bunch of black guys playing dominoes (bones), going to their homes, etc. The obsession with food that Filipinos have… I’ll never forget going to a house party hosted by one of the black guys in my division. This was in the blackest part of Long Beach, CA and me and my buddy were the only white people there. Everyone treated us well and we had a blast, but it was… Read more »

Dutch
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Atlantic Ave. area of Long Beach, basically South Compton. They invited you to their neighborhood/cultural “home”, and treated you like honored guests, as it should be. Old school cultural norms work best, not all the college “meeting places”, “safe spaces”, and “hosted/monitored racial interaction” events.

jaqship
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Yeah, Outdoors, being in the military is a great eye-opener to the intimate details of different races, incl. in rather tight living areas like old-style barracks.

The best of the Blacks can so utterly colorful, e.g. in poking fun at their own. *Esp.* if they’re not nearly a majority.

In a 3rd Platoon, a Black can invent a chant:
“Ooo, ungawah, 3rd has got the powah! I say, Ooo, ungawah, 3rd has got the powah! ….”
But, once they get to near a majority, it can get not so pretty….

james wilson
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There is an hollowness in the pose of beneficent superiority that is universally despised. I spent a fair time in Dixie back in the day before blacks had uncivil rights, and knew old timey racists (race realists) who stirred no animosity around blacks, of which they had much contact and regular relations. It’s the hip Yankee that is the odd duck, unnatural and upsetting. He never learns anything because he never walks the talk. Back in Yankeedom when Jews spearheaded every cause of blacks except screwing their daughters, blacks despised Jews all the more for it.

TomA
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In the real world, the word “black” is used as the group descriptor because it’s an effective application of language. This is an example of the optimization of evolution. In the memetic realm of created biases and beliefs, the term “African American” is a slogan used to induce an artificial mental state that differs from reality. It’s purpose is indoctrination, but it’s use has the debilitating side effect of undermining the accurate perception of reality. This defeats robustness selection and enhances hive-mindedness, behavioral conformity, and parasitic dronism. Abuse and destruction of language is non trivial.

Arch Stanton
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Arch Stanton

Oooh…check out the big brain on Tom!

TomA
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TomA

Now you’re conflating brain size and intelligence. Amateur mistake.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

“In the memetic realm of created biases and beliefs” <= this is what kind of moves the pomposity needle. the overall word choice is "ok" but does make the reader work harder than is necessary. IMO

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lol

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Please keep in mind that virtually 100% of the assholes in Cali (ok, maybe 100% – 1 to my “fans”) are from back East. As a fifth generation Californian, I cannot tell you how ineffably sad I am over the changes they have caused in the state. I am like that fake Italian Indian, in the pollution commercial from the 70’s 🙂 except for me the tears are real. The only part of the state that hasn’t been fukked over is the coastline; it is all as it was thanks to a law from the early 1970’s that makes it… Read more »

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So, what of the hordes of California’s Afro-Americans, Aztlanistas, Bloods, Chicanos, Costa Ricans, Crips, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Mexicans, MS-13 gang bangers, Negroes, Niggers, Spics, and Squatemalans?

How about Dianne Frankenstein?

How about Jerry Brown?

How about Gil Garcetti?

How about Eric Garcetti?

Are any of them from back East?

Sure, Babs Boxer had Brooklyn roots, and George Cuckmejian had New York beginnings, and same for Gray Skies Davis.

But, let’s be real: California is a cesspool.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Who do you think elected those jamokes, and let all the illegals in? Keep in mind I have been here (in Cali) — and socially/culturally/politically aware — since the early 60’s. I’m just reporting what I have observed.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

“I ran into a group of guys from Northern California who described themselves as liberal Republicans. They really wanted me to know they were sick to their stomach…”

My experience with California Republicans is that they are indistinguishable from liberal Democrats, especially on cultural issues like gay marriage and trans promotion. They are not Democrats because they believe that that they can deliver all this cultural degeneracy WITH LOWER TAXES!

Dutch
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Dutch

Go inland. The only thing they have in common with the coastals is the state name on the license plates.

jaqship
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jaqship

That’s largely true of most (coastal) states of any real size.

Karl McHungus
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Karl McHungus

Texas, too?

ErisGuy
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ErisGuy

Nope, not Texas. Too few beaches, no real view on the coast. And hurricanes. Almost the entire coastline north of Corpus Christi is swamp and full of ravenous mosquitoes or is sand-free. There’s no LA or San Diego near Mexico to import tens of millions of corrupt Whites. Instead Corpus is party city with a lower-Rio Grande vibe. Closest coastal Texas comes to coastal California is Houston, which isn’t on the coast but likes to think it is.

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The term “African-American” exists only because of white liberals. Most American blacks couldn’t locate Africa on a map. And if they ever visited there, they would likely feel like Muhammad Ali, who said upon leaving that he was glad his ancestors got on that boat.

My favorite “African-American” moment was during the olympics when the liberal announcer could not figure out what to call a non-American black, who was the first black to win a medal in a certain sport. So he said the person was the first “African-American from any country” to medal in that sport.

thekrustykurmudgeon
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Z, with you talking about Phoenix – this is getting to something I’ve noticed. You seem to have two divergent paths in the economy of cities and neither are good. You have the sort of low-wage sprawl economy in somewhere like Phoenix. Then you have other cities which create a sort of “bughive” economy like Seattle, the bay area, the imperial capital etc. Neither seems really good and its best to have a balance between the two. I’m not sure which city has the best balance in that aspect. Maybe Salt Lake City? Also, SLC is less mormon than the… Read more »

thud
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Nah, down the valley, Orem,Provo Spanish fork, great area.

yendor
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yendor

Krusty; Good point about that negative urban dichotomy – sprawl or ‘bughive’. I’ve noticed a lot of good press of late about the capital of the ‘beehive’ state. But is it attracting too many California exiles, just like Phoenix? I know, I know — everybody’s gotta flee somewhere! And there are so many good folks doing the fleeing. If you want a bigger city, I think SLC is probably a good destination, for now.

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I like the way we can say “people of color” but not “colored people”.

We had a meeting with state DNR and our representatives, over our dock. In support of us keeping the dock were a group of immigrants from Monrovia. They were the ones making money off DNR’s program to eradicate the Northern Pike minnow. (used to be called squawfish). DNR looked at them like they were aborigines. They’d never seen the people actually doing the work.

Doctor Right
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My house was robbed when I was in medical school in a mid-size, mostly-black, town in Georgia. Even some of the furniture was taken – they had clearly spent some time in the heist. Both the detective the patrolman who responded were black.
They asked did I have any idea who did it. I said, “I think they were black.”
The detective said, “What makes you say that?”
“They took my bourbon but not my Scotch, and there are Moon Pie wrappers on the floor.”
They both nodded and he said, “You are probably right.”

The Anti-Gnostic
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Augusta, GA. Very familiar with the town. Cross the river into South Carolina and you find out where all the white people moved. The place is hanging on though. All that empty land on the river is now very nice houses.

yendor
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yendor

Z; sorry to read your comment about Phoenix, but not surprised nor upset. Born and raised there. I do love the desert! After decades in CA and GA, I thought it would be a good place to return for retirement. But soon decided it was not exactly ‘senior friendly’! When I first moved away, there were less than a million. Now there are 4.5 million in the metro area. Too much LA-like traffic. It’s too hot. And there are now too many carnicerías, panaderías, etc. The mountains of Central AZ are far better! BTW, love your site. Love your writing!

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As for saying “hi” when passing someone on the sidewalk etc, I almost always say it first. Probably because of my Midwest background. But mostly because my dad always insisted his sons face the world with personality. If he caught me not greeting someone properly he’d be all over my ass. To this day if we talk too softly he’ll yell at us. When we moved to LA he was taken aback that people at the office didn’t raise their voice when angry. And he no longer heard any cursing, so he had to stop himself. A big change from… Read more »

jaqship
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Smart stuff, Frip.
An alternative to “hi” is, to nod your head, lift your hand with a wave, or maybe with an “OK” (unless you’ve reason to fear that it’ll be interpreted as a pushy alt-Right signal).
Sometimes I accompany such gestures with a Clint Eastwood-style “yeah”, trying to imply a balance of openness-but-skepticism.

Much depends, on whether your voice is deep, or “whiny”.
If the latter, you’d best try working on your Gestures Game.

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Jaqship. Agree with the head lift and slight wave. I kept typing “hi” for the sake of brevity. I’ve never seen someone give the OK sign or say “yeah”, as you suggest. I still think you’re from Amsterdam.

jaqship
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Well, Frip, I’ve never gotten any reason to fear that a “yeah” ever cost me, tho I’ll grant that it’s not a very common approach. And, the “from Amsterdam” stuff is really a trip. If this presumes, that my ways ought to have gotten me a feast of knuckle sandwiches here in the States, well, my face has stayed untouched. Rest assured, while I’ve not *quite* set the world utterly “on fire”, I’ve managed *far* better than I was expecting, say, 40 years ago, all the more so compared to so very many others, of similar class etc. background. .… Read more »

Swrichmond
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“People gained their social happiness outside of their work life, so at a conference, it needed to be all business. Today, people work longer, travel more and have disorderly personal lives. Work events are often the times when they get to socialize and relax. Old world America would not recognize us now…”

This is a remarkably important point. People without families have nothing else to do.

I agree completely with your laat paragraph, perhaps more strongly. American liberals, especially older ones, absolutley loathe and despise American blacks, viewing them as less-than-human things to be placated and controlled, and slaughtered via abortion.

ChrisZ
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Love-to-hate is the razor’s edge, right? I’ve sensed for a while that just below the surface of the Liberal worship of blacks is a seething anger waiting to erupt. We actually saw a little of it today, with the outrageous lib condescension shown to Kanye West’s visit with Trump. All their usually pent-up frustration comes pouring out the second they have an “approved” target, a little ideological cover to “justify” their venting. Justice Thomas and Secretary Rice would get similar treatment. You can understand the frustration white libs feel. They’ve elevated blacks to the apex of moral standing, in the… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

A perfect summary, ChrisZ, near poetry: “the “plight” of -X- would expose and overthrow the established order and usher in the absolute ascendency of … white libs.”

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“In the future, old racists will be the last friend of the black man…”

Amen.

Lester Fewer
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Lester Fewer

A POSTCARD FROM THE VOLCANO by Wallace Stevens (honestly, you guys REALLY need to read more poetry) Children, picking up our bones Will never know that these were once As quick as foxes on the hill. (read the whole damn thing, it won’t kill ya) ….we knew for long the mansion’s look, And part of what we said of it became A part of what it is. …children, weaving budding aureoles, Will speak our speech and never know, Will say of the mansion that he who lived there Was a spirit storming in blank walls, A tatter of shadows peaked… Read more »

Wang Wei Lin
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Wang Wei Lin

In my experience the people who talk first or most about race are usually the racists regardless of the politically correct language they may use.

Dutch
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Dutch

“If you hear the dog whistle, you are the dog”.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

You say “racist” like it’s a bad thing. Wake up my yellow friend.

Suburban_elk
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Is that your real name then, Ching Chong?

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“I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me.”
Zapp

Suburban_elk
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In Minnesota it’s actually African American Gentlemen is the preferred term.

Richard Watson
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Richard Watson

It’s simple. African American is not a race. Blacks (or negroes as apparently is back in vogue) share the same race as their cousins in Africa. Those certainly don’t consider themselves to be African Americans.
And has anyone ever seen a birth certificate where the race of the father is written “African” besides the one Obama provided?