Narcissistic Altruism

One of the great unanswered question of our age is why Western rulers are obsessed with importing tens of millions of unassimilable foreigners into their lands. In the US, the conventional wisdom among immigration patriots is that one side of the political class wants cheap votes, while the other side wants cheap labor. In Europe, the theories range from female hysteria to poorly conceived economics. The one common thread is that across the West, the ruling elites appear to be trying to crash their cultures.

The trouble with these reductionist theories is they don’t make much sense at the individual level, so they can’t very well scale up. For example, the cheap labor argument does not hold up very well when you examine it. Helot labor is great for the business owner, just as long as he is the only guy doing it. When every landscaper is using Aztec workers, there’s little benefit to the landscaping companies. That’s not to say there is no benefit, but does it warrant the suicidal drive to import Mexico into the US?

In Europe, the cheap labor argument makes less sense. Depending upon who is counting, between 80% and 90% of migrants are on public assistance. Even if these migrants wanted to work, there is little demand for low-IQ unskilled workers. Even if there was some demand, the labor laws in Europe would make it impossible to hire them. One of the vexing problems the Euros have are restricted labor markets, that prevent the sort of labor mobility we have in the US. There’s just little demand for cheap foreign labor.

The cheap voter argument is a better one, but even so, the returns are spotty. In the US, Latin voters have been unreliable. They have very low turnout numbers, relative to other groups. Unlike blacks, they are not easily agitated into rushing out to stage big protests or shoot white people. There’s also the fact that they tend to cause the white vote to coalesce around white candidates regardless of party. That or it results in white flight, as we see in California. So far, open borders has been a disaster for white Democrats.

A similar result has been seen in Europe. The Brits are the example closest to the US for obvious reasons. Open borders has destroyed the party that advocated for it. On the continent, the anti-Euro movements are entirely driven by the immigration waves triggered by Merkel. Even docile countries run by cat ladies and cucks are starting to see the rise of nationalism and anti-immigrant parties. Exactly no where is immigration helping the political class. Yet, the ruling class is universally in favor of open borders.

The fact is, there are no good political or economic arguments in favor of mass immigration. In some places, the arguments have some plausibility, but even the best nuts and bolts arguments in favor of elevated immigration levels don’t justify the high political and cultural costs. Yet, our political classes have an unshakable loyalty to foreign migrants. In every Western nation, the smart political play is to oppose high immigration levels. In many countries, banning all immigration is overwhelmingly popular.

There must be something else at work, beyond money and power. Even if we extend the bounds of the ruling class beyond the elected class and their attendants, there’s no upside for the elites. Why is Mark Zuckerberg berserk for high immigration? He’s even in favor of importing Muslims. The same is true for Hollywood people. They get nothing from open borders, other than fewer job opportunities. Ditto the mass media. About the only thing the self-actualizing classes get from open borders is domestic labor.

That may be the key to it. I’ve pointed out before that the self-actualizing class may prefer Spanish landscapers, as it avoids them having to see blacks raking leaves, while singing old fashioned negro work songs. It also avoids seeing downscale whites, who remind them of the tenuousness of their position. Asian and Caribbean domestics not only avoid those problems, but everyone can pretend they make better workers in those roles. The Korean nanny is like a tiger mom for hire. It makes the deception more palatable.

The underlying cause here may be narcissistic altruism. It is generally assumed that altruism is selfless, while narcissism is selfish. That may not be the correct framing, as lots of people do charity work because it makes them feel good. Similarly, lots of self-absorbed people commit public acts of piety because it makes them look good and elevates their status. The guy funding the museum and demanding his name be over the front door is not acting from pure selflessness. He wants glory too.

It has always been known that men often become more religious as they grow older, often returning to the religion of their youth in a serious way. The pattern is not as obvious with women as they much more likely to stay in their church as young adults. Young mothers will often get involved with their church for family services and socializing with other mothers. Men, on the other hand, often have a religious awakening in their middle years and not only return to their religion, but do so with vigor.

George Vaillant was a researcher at Harvard and did a 50 year study on men, tracking them from their teens to old age. One of the areas he studied was altruism and he found that as the men aged, their altruism increased significantly. This was not simply due to selflessness. Helping others becomes increasing rewarding as we age. Neuroimaging has revealed that helping others brings pleasure to the person providing the help. Altruism activates brain centers that are associated with selfish pleasures like sex.

Organized religion, obviously, provides a ready made structure into which this selfish desire to help others can flow. Not only does organized religion have structured charity, it comes with a spiritually rewarding purpose and generations of others who have followed the same path. The female desire to provide charity is funneled into activities that support the community the church serves. The late onset male altruism follows on providing money and intellectual capital to society-strengthening altruism.

Again, this is not pure selflessness. When you volunteer at your church, you feel good about it, because the pleasure centers of your brain are stimulated. It could simply be that as we age, the vanity of youth is no longer effective. To get the same pleasure from life, that desire for selfish pleasure (sex, wealth, status), is redirected into other areas like church participation and charitable giving. Doing good makes the person feel good for having voluntarily done a good work on behalf of their fellows.

The collapse of organized religion, particularly among the Cloud People, is leaving them with no structured outlet for this normal human impulse. The reason a Lyndsay Graham cares more about Dreamers, than his fellow South Carolinians is he feels like he is helping those who need help. It’s why John McCain spent the last three decades chanting about “causes greater than yourself.” Without a structure into which his narcissistic altruism could flow, he searched around for causes and purposes, most of which were destructive.

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I think it is a combination of all of these factors with different players all getting something a little different out of it.

Part of the problem of Europe, and increasingly here in the USA, is that social democracy doesn’t create enough of an increase in population to keep the benefits flowing and lowering benefits is political suicide. So gradual societal suicide is the answer. And you can feel good about it while gassing your own country.

Larry Darrell
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I don’t believe politicians or voters know/care about a Social Security deficit that will manifest itself in 20-30 years.

Dutch
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I often wonder whether the political and media firestorm we live in, is actually cover for the systematic looting of the system by certain politically and economically powerful entities. They could care less about the next 20 years, or even the next 20 months. Getting while the getting is good, from their perspective.

Larry Darrell
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Yes I found it hilarious that Michelle Bachmann, when retiring from Congress, arranged Swiss passports for all of her family (N.Z. would have been better). She obviously knew what is coming in a few years in the U.S., but waited to get her own bailout until she no longer had to worry about offending voters with her “treachery,” etc.

PV van der Byl
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Much calculation went into that decision and I am not at all sure NZ would have been a better choice, The Kiwis have far more immigration than is commonly realized.

At least, the Bachmans will be reliable voters for Christoph Blocher! Her children’s claim to Swiss citizenship came through her Swiss-American husband. Michelle herself is basically Norwegian.

Philip Nolan
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It is going to manifest itself (to all but the blindest politicians) a lot sooner than 20-30 years.

A.B. Prosper
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They know but there is nothing that will be done, Take The perfect example, the affordable care act . The Republicans are happy all day and night to vote to repeal so long as President Obama was in office and nothing would happen but once they have a President who supports repeal and you know, maybe something better, well he thinks so anyway , suddenly they just can’t do it nope nope Same with every other tough call, mostly they just want to get the goodies with as little work as possible It also doesn’t help that the average member… Read more »
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Excellent analysis.

Drake
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I think overwhelming and destroying native / western culture has more to do with it. It may damage the pro-immigration in the short-run. In the long-run it annihilates conservatives.

Tim Newman
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I think you’re bang on that much of it is altruism looking for an outlet in the absence of religion. But supporting that is a section of the population who absolutely detest the society they are from and wish it destroyed, and remade to their satisfaction with them in charge. This is exactly what the communists tried to do, but communism failed and so they turned to whatever weapon they could lay their hands on – and mass immigration is one way to go about it. So the behaviour we are seeing might be as much to do with the… Read more »
AndrewM
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There is nothing at work except money. Immigration is encouraged since the locals don’t have enough children to satisfy the demand for endless growth of the economy – Not at any rate that history got forecasters accustomed to assuming. The immigrants also, by definition, have to be poor people as well, as that is the only way to be sure that the economy has categorically grown rather than simply been expanded by importing the newcomers’ spending power from Europe, or latterly, Japan and China. As this extract illustrates, this has been going one for a long, long time. “…IN THE… Read more »
Ursula
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In a world that’s projected to have fewer jobs due to technology and automation, how is any immigration at all justified? What kind of consumers will low-IQ, unskilled people make? They’ll be supported by our taxes. If they work, their wages as well as the wages of most citizens may be so low as to not be taxed and therefore do not contribute to our system. So what then? How does this help businesses to even stay open, never mind grow or start new ones? Tens of millions of unemployed people who all need to eat and pay rent (many… Read more »
Tom
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Then how come places like Japan and China, which is officially atheist, have no immigration?

Rod1963
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They are tribal for lack of a better definition. Tribal people put their people first and foremost. Or maybe a high ethnic cohesion co-efficient. IOW they stick together. ‘ll give you a real world example among Central Americans here in the U.S when one of them opens up a store or eatery, all the other Central Americans in town patronize it – they support each other. The Chinese ex-parts do the where ever they go as well. Oh yeah their cultures are still relatively intact compared to ours. That helps a lot. Their elites to a large extent haven’t been… Read more »
Tax Slave
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“Pathological altruism” look it up.

Karl McHungus
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This altruistic impulse would most naturally towards family. Many of the leaders in the West, and many of their supporters, are barren. Ipso facto.

Member

It has been written in many places that the urban globalist elite feels more kinship with other urban elites in foreign countries than the do with the non-urban people in their own countries. To these people, their own countrymen are just as much “the other” as immigrants are. In addition, immigrants aren’t in competition for power with the urban elite the same way flyover country is, which is why flyover country is the enemy while immigrants are not

Karl McHungus
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your post is self-negating.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
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Why is it self-negating?

Jak Black
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I think this is one of the few times that I’ve been unconvinced by your argument. I hear the problem about scaling down to individuals and the political class, but that doesn’t strengthen the narcissistic altruism bit which seems a stretch.

As with most problems, it’s almost certainly a confluence of several issues. Leftist votes certainly accounts for some of it. And another good direction for thought would be the “Feminine Imperative” (to put it simply, gynocentrism writ large). But this one needs a bit more time in the oven.

post consumerism father
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post consumerism father

Target, McDonald’s, Exxon Mobile, Procter and Gamble, SC Johnson, etc, and F.I.RE see them as customers. Whites have everything, except maybe some positional goods, like true elite education. They’re post consumerism, at least they should be. Apparently, the elites and most proles are too lazy to THINK post consumer. I don’t think we know how, or at least have the will. So we stay the course and dupe new entrants.

Dutch
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Looking at my own situation, I think the male return to church in later years has many roots. You get the kids raised and the financial house in order, and you step away from the work treadmill just a bit. You come to realize how hard it is to accomplish positive change in large and abstract ways, and how easy it is to do in the small and specific things. You also have a practical skill set that may not be particularly valuable any more in the workplace, but that can do wonders with the bevy of small skilled tasks… Read more »
D. Kay
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Nail head Z Man. But I think the connection/ correlation to the diminishing influence of religion is problematic. The LDS community is a case in point. Most Mormons are well educated, financially secure and the church is almost fanatical on the concept of serving others from top to bottom. They however support immigration both morally and financially and not of the educated European variety. This drive to import low IQ morally challenged non-Mormons is certainly not do to a lack of religiosity. Amazingly they would prefer to facilitate the import of non-believers or Muslims than sponsor fellow Christians who truly… Read more »
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To me Mormonism is like a Christianized Judaism. They keep themselves apart, infiltrate, subjugate, etc. The difference is in evangelization. They’ve had a lot of success in the Third World, so importing it is just another kind of missionary work.

Dutch
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Being in loose touch with some members of the local Mormon community, I am guessing that the discipline that they demand of their membership is assumed to be transferable to those brought in from abroad. I am skeptical. I think some of the membership may be skeptical as well, but the Mormons are tightly a “top down” organization, so if it is coming from the top, then it will be followed.

Alzaebo
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A detail- the Book of Mormon purportedly details two Hebrew colonies in Central America. Oddly, it does correlate with the time of the Zapotec and Mixtec cultures. This was the original reasoning behind interest in Latin America. Every Prot then discovers the necessity of saving island paradises, the LDS are no different, excepting that Pacific Islanders are a big presence in Utah, along with Kona Gold in the 70’s. The Samoan gangs couldn’t make any money due to lack of customers, so they left. Culture matters. Utah is getting spooky again due to the Diversity. BYU and the upper crust… Read more »
D. Kay
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Sure the separatism, evangeliztion, I don’t know about the subjugate but the question is why import the least likely to turn into good “saints”. The LDS is strong on financial independence and tithing. Muslim third worlder’s are not the pool of converts to provide church-going tithe paying members; there are other prospects. The church knows they will be a drain on the church are likely damaging to the country in toto yet they focus the import those most destructive to all. I think the church leaders envision themselves the elite (like the other cloud people) and perceive they are more… Read more »
Member

CIA is full of Mormons. Why?

Reed Hill
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Very responsive to traditional authority structures, strong classical patriotism. Heritage of traditional modes of morality, less likely to be addicts, perverts (debatable).

Ryan
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So basically one man’s virtue signaling is another man’s actually being virtuous. I think the story checks out. Everyone is the hero of their own story, as Yudkowski said.

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I think you are right. The demand for more and more immigrants from ever more random locations has reached a level of hysteria that isn’t explainable by reasonability. However there is one policy reason for pro immigration that no one ever discusses. Especially the pro immigration types. That is the declining population of young people on one hand and aging dependent population on the other. The problem is that without young people the social security that old people demand won’t be paid, the companies whose shares they own won’t have employees or customers and the bonds they hold will be… Read more »
Chad
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I would probably lean towards the another concept I think disappeared with the collapse of Christianity: forgiveness. The progressive cause is devoid of forgiveness (at least as far as any ‘privileged’ class is concerned). So they find themselves sinful within a religion that is deeply intolerant of that sin. So in this situation the progressive wants to conceal his sins and do great things in the name of his religion. They want to be a ‘good white’ in a similar sense that they might consider being a ‘good Nazi’. The basic mentality is that their virtue is framed as that… Read more »
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Yes, fantastic. Americans in general have a difficulty in understanding forgiveness because of our Calvinists heritage.

We tend to think of things in terms of ‘pure’ and ‘impure’ because of Calvinism’s dichotomy between the saved and unsaved: early colonies required people to present proof of salvation in order to be citizens. We’re still looking for proof of salvation!

Dutch
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You see the lack of forgiveness every day. It has morphed into an intolerance of anything that strays from the “party line”. I try to tell people to accept that others think differently than they do, and that is an OK thing, and that we all need to leave space for other people to find their own answers. They look at me like I have three heads or something. Finally, I tell them that people hate to be told they are wrong, that it is a human thing to hate it, and that no one’s thinking has ever been changed… Read more »
Alzaebo
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Forgiveness is revolutionary in it’s depth and simplicity. I think it’s the secret strength of the Christian mystery, why they are such a positive force. To contemplate the weighty command of forgiveness requires profound contemplation; one must truly try to walk in another’s shoes. Early training and a lifetime of this effort reinforce empathy. (Note that that genocidal mercenary, Calvin, instead advocated ‘beating the Hell out of them’. Pilgrims, appalled by Puritan abuse, sang “Spare the rod and spoil the child” as part of an anti-Puritan ditty in 1644. In the OT, the mewcar- scepter, slang for a scroll- is… Read more »
Pimpkin\'s nephew
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We saw this very premise on display last week, when H Weinstein vowed to redouble his efforts to bring down the evil NRA. It’s the proven escape pod for goodthinkers with big money and big connections.

Cash payment for the remission of sin… hmm, I’m thinking 16th century here. Remind you of anything that happened around 1517?

BJ dubbS
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Why don’t any of these explanations apply to Australia? The Australians understand that immigration would lead to colonization by Chinese. In the US, nobody is afraid of colonization by 5’4 Mexican immigrants. Germany fears immigrants but Poland and Hungary know that they are always in danger in being occupied (it’s happened in recent memory). So a large part is complacency mixed with the immigration illusion ie immigrants will always stay at 15% and nothing will change.

BJ dubbS
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Germany *doesn’t fear the immigrants, or the leaders don’t. The East Germans do.

Member

Ironic, then that Angela Merkel is East German.

Dan Kurt
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re: “Ironic, then that Angela Merkel is East German.” Vizzini

Merkel was born in West Germany. Her family emigrated from the freer Western zone to the repressive East Germany, a rare occurrence at the time.

Dan Kurt

Member

Wow. Didn’t know that.

Karl McHungus
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That explains just about everything she has done, then 🙂 Were her parents soviet agents or something?

Alzaebo
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Weren’t they Lutheran ministry?
Curiouser and curiouser.
She got pretty high up there in the youth cadres.

Dr. Mabuse
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I think as Christianity burns out in the West, a few half-remembered embers temporarily glow brightly before going out. Self-denial is something people vaguely remember as a good thing. Without any coherent structure to put it in its appropriate place, it takes over so that we see people doing suicidal things while congratulating themselves on their virtue. They can’t remember anything else of their old religion, so they cling to the confused idea that God is happy when we destroy ourselves.

Dutch
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As to the open immigration thing, I think one element of it is that immigration, similar to unfettered abortion and “voter rights”, has become an unthinking response, not a thought-through position, for many of those who think the world is a nasty place and doesn’t need to be, if only people thought like they did. As a knee-jerk response for those in the Liberal club, the notion that they might be damaging their own lives by supporting all of this just doesn’t register. There is a big disconnect, because many supporters of unfettered immigration do not live lives that directly… Read more »
Worldly Wiseman
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Over here in Europe it might be the economic reasons in addition to narcissism. True, migrants in Germany do not work but they still need housing and government handouts. All this is beneficial in the short term because it keeps the economy artificially growing and elderly might get some domestic help. And a lot of people have really swallowed the open border / blank slate mantra.

Member

This goes along with my idea that it is like an IV in the arm of a dying body called social democracy.

Alzaebo
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Yes, the false ‘government economy’ is eating the real economy. Good, good catch.

Al from da Nort
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Z Man; Yours is as good an explanation as I’ve seen. As you say, once you look at the phenomenon dispassionately, the madness of it jumps right out. Hence it’s time to look at the evidence that it’s largely emotionally driven. But you seem to be ignoring stupidity as a driving factor. I.e., you may be overestimating the intelligence many of the open boarders crowd, particularly their economic intelligence. Based on the ‘refugee resettlement’ folks at our church, I’d vote for both. They really enjoy the good feelings from helping individuals and brush off any and all concerns about the… Read more »
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The “elites” governing the West are merely reflecting their deeply held belief that Western Civ, and the Christian Ethic that underlies it, are the greatest threat to humanity that ever existed. We overlook this motivation due to its inherent insanity. Nevertheless, their actions, which on the surface appear illogical, are all explainable by holding this idea up to them.

SFTOBEY
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Not the greatest “threat to humanity”; but the greatest threat to the globalist, oligarch “New World Ordure”, and the so-called “elites'” desire for their One World Government”.

A.B. Prosper
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Considering that one man in the USSR Vasili Alexandrovich Arkhipov is the only reason there even is a Western Civilization , there is much truth in that No one else is crazy and smart enough to invent hydrogen bombs or nearly make genetic engineering for the common man or research AI and robotics that could quite literally result in human extermination And while China and others are joining in the doomsday rush , they didn’t invent it , we did. So yeah in a broader sense, we are a threat to everyone else Worse any culture we allow our Cathedral… Read more »
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“One of the great unanswered question of our age is why Western rulers are obsessed with importing tens of millions of unassimilable foreigners into their lands.”

r/K reproductive theory. It explains everything.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog

Member

“When every landscaper is using Aztec workers, there’s little benefit to the landscaping companies.”

I see individual landscapers running crews of Aztecs. One man can increase his profits this way. Maybe you’re assuming that the market will drive down the price to reflect his cheaper wages? Maybe over time it will, but it doesn’t appear to have worked it’s way through the system

We see this same phenomenon in construction too, Aztecs everywhere. There is an increase in PITA for dealing with the communication barrier. Obviously it’s still worth it at this time. Maybe over time this benefit will disappear.

Member
A friend was having something built recently. Talked about how hypocritical it was for all these “buy local” people to talk about hiring local companies. He went to locals to get stuff done and they took his contracts and subbed them out to other companies using Mexicans. Said he had go to the worksite all the time to beg them to work because of his deadlines. Just found this out for myself. Hired a local company to do something and vanloads of Mexicans showed up to do the work. Next time I get anything done I’m going to a real… Read more »
Reed Hill
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Doing a lot renovations on the house to sell, and getting bids on the house we’re buying. Some of the obviously Aztec ones are just as high lately in my area (midwest). I always try to go with someone who comes recommended like a Ronnie, or Casey or Steve, and when I ask about their crew I’m comforted when they say “It’s just me and my son” or “me and Justin.” Those guys are almost always similar in price or sometimes less than the Aztec brokers. I’m happy to give them my money for good honest work.
Alzaebo
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We saw that in the west.
Once one farmer started cheating, they all ‘had to’ start cheating.

Bracero programs took off when the Okies left to fight WWII.

TBoone
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Altruism coupled with rage.

I’d love to know what brain center lights up when revenge is achieved. An emotionally stunted, leftist wet-brain dream?

Pat myself on the back AND get revenge on those I hate.

Or am I overthinking this?

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the cheap labor argument does not hold up very well when you examine it. Helot labor is great for the business owner, just as long as he is the only guy doing it. When every landscaper is using Aztec workers, there’s little benefit to the landscaping companies. Even if literally every employer hires helots, they are still made better off by continual imports of newer helots. This remains true so long as the wage that newer helots demand is lower than what older helots demand. Marx identified the “reserve army of the unemployed”; this is pretty much that. But perhaps… Read more »
Member

Cheap labor is like slavery. It enslaves both the slaveowners/employers as well as the workers/slaves.

This is the case in medicine now, too. Try finding a hospitalist that looks like you.

Member

Sadly true.

Karl McHungus
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EB, is that bag on your head really on fire? Great avatar, BTW.

Member

Baboso mean “idiot” in the dialect of Spanish my mom and grandma speak. I did a search for idiot and this picture came up.

I frequently set myself on fire professionally, though.

Alzaebo
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Or a factory that doesn’t look Chinese.
The mountain has gone to Mohammed.

JohnTyler
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“No Marxist can deny that the interests of socialism are higher than the interests of the right of nations to self-determination.” Vladimir Lenin “Divide the world into regional groups as a transitional stage to world government. Populations will more readily abandon their national loyalty to a vague regional loyalty than they will for a world authority. Later the regions can be brought together all the way into a single world dictatorship.” Joseph Stalin I do not think that it’s a coincidence that just about all open border zealots are lefties, liberal progressives or communists. Their goals are not economic nor… Read more »
Member

Immigration has moved into holy sacrament territory. They’re for it, because their religion is for it. And there are few things more satisfying than parading their sanctimony around.

Member

C.f.: Mencius Moldbug on “nonempathic altruism”, which he also dubs “callous altruism”:

Once you learn to recognize the distinction between empathic and nonempathic altruism, you’ll see it everywhere. Empathic altruism – charity – is simply good. Nonempathic altruism – communism – is simply evil. There’s not a whole lot of gray area between good and evil. Evil motivations can certainly, by coincidence, produce good results – but this is an accident, which has little or nothing to do with the supposed “good intentions.”

Member

I think the description of Narcissistic Altruism in the article is missing a few pieces. I would add that Narcissistic Altruism is solely focused on the good feelings generated by “helping” with no regard for whether or not anybody is actually helped and a callous disregard for the collateral damages caused by the so-called help. Another part would be maximizing the feeling of helping while minimizing the personal investment in that help, for example using other people’s money.

Sim1776
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I would add the companion concept of “moral narcissism” as well. The results do not matter so long as one has good intentions.

Member

I would agree with that

Leonard Herr
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We do it because DNA demands it. The great mixing. Been going on from the beginning, and who knows where it goes. Trying to assign a reason to it is as hopeless as trying to understand the mind of God.

StanFL
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You are writing as if the elites think as a single brain. They don’t, they need to be led. Perhaps you could consider the motivations of the small leadership element who have the ability to propagate ideas.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
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Great point. And funny, too. Elites are (to borrow Z man’s term) the “self-actualizing”. Yet what self-actualization is evident from a whole upper stratum of übermenschen who say exactly the same things, in the same words, with the same patterned tone of ‘outrage’? One might draw the false conclusion that shoe-shine boys like Kimmel and Matthews decide how the ‘rulers’ will express their ‘thoughts’.

Can it be that we’ve actually jumped to the Romulus Augustulus point, or beyond? Barbarian chieftains running the scam just a little longer, if you see what I mean.

Larry Darrell
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The leftists could have achieved the same ego-boost by importing paupers from busted southern countries like Greece and Italy, with almost no backlash. Many of us northern Europeans have a real soft spot for the feckless but always cheerful Latin who spends his days tending goats and lounging on the beautiful square in Tuscany. No, there is something really poisonous going on.

Tim
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I have to say I think the main impulse motivating our lovely SJWs is not a burst of altruistic pleasure, but good old fashioned hate. They hate the other with unrefined passion, and in case you hadn’t noticed, readers of this blog are part of the other. They want to replace and crush their enemies. Tim

Dutch
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Yup, all emotions, no rational thinking involved.

Member
An alternate theory. I’ve seen more than once in print that every time American pols came close to closing the valve on Mexican illegal immigration, Mexican elites would start aggressively engaging their counterparts in the executive branch, Congress, academia, etc., with some pretty focused messaging: if the U.S. didn’t continue to allow unrestricted illegal immigration, then a Marxist insurgency would brew up in Mexico and that the U.S. would be “fighting a Vietnam in its backyard.” Could the same sort of back channel/track two diplomacy be ongoing in Europe? Could the elites in MENA be whispering a similar message in… Read more »
Philip Nolan
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One very real explanation that has been overlooked is the unmitigated stupidity of the political and cultural elites. They see a situation, misdiagnose the problem, apply a fix to the non-problem, a fix that only makes things worse, then fail to see the problem they have created. Because they are just plain stupid.

TomA
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Japan does not follow the model of promoting high immigration. Yet they still have the problem of low birthrates and they are attempting to address that problem by developing robot technology. US politicians cannot even muster the will to deport criminal illegal aliens (murderers), so their motivations are more likely to be a form of psychosis rather than misguided idealism. We are not electing the brightest minds among us, we are electing people who are seriously psychotic. This death wish is of our own doing.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
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“We are not electing the brightest minds among us, we are electing people who are seriously psychotic. This death wish is of our own doing”.

Examples?

TomA
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Read the speech that George Bush just gave in NY and then tell that he doesn’t have a loose screw in his noggin. Extreme stupidity is also know as clinical retardation.

Reed Hill
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I think it’s more that the power elite who are globalist are trying very, very hard to stem the tide of the revolt of the Dirt Peoples and can see that they are failing. Nationalism is resurgent in the Anglosphere and Europe, and they are trying desperately to fight against this. There is no doubt there is sociopathy inherent in the elite unhealthy desires to control the commoners. I think they are quite fearful of these uprisings, if the full light of day truly exposes their schemes as it seems to do more so over time and in increasing measure.
Karl McHungus
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How is this insanity different from all the other prog/leftist insanity? Everything they think and do is insane. Maybe modern life just produces massive amounts of human insanity, for a number of reasons.

Paul Bonneau
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Altruism gone astray? Perhaps, but I have a hard time imagining that politicians have an altruist bone in their bodies. They do seem to display a Santa Clause complex at times, e.g. bringing home the pork-barrel projects, but that is usually just a form of buying votes. I certainly have wondered why the enthusiasm for invasion, myself. A few other possible explanations: 1) Opposition for its own sake: if the benighted dirt people hate something, politicians must love it. This tendency is shown by feminism for example, which supports Islam even though Islam is hostile toward women. Dirt people hate… Read more »
BlindMan
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“Sefish pleasures like sex”

Love you Zman and enjoyed the article, but… you’re doing it wrong.

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I think the general point of the article is the “Signal Economy”. I view it like this: in a wealthy post-Industrial society economic status signals have simply lost their value, because cheap consumer goods are easy to come by. Hence we now have an economy built around status signals. PC status signals can be purchased at other people’s expense. Open Borders proponents may only be marginally affected by mass immigration if at all, while the cost is spread across the culture or society at large. So the benefit (the status that accrues to pro-open-borders signaler) is concentrated (on the signaler),… Read more »
Alzaebo
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Good, good point

Tim
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Not completely OT…Spam and other canned meats are being stolen in Hawaii for quick resale by drug addicts. Hence this story:
https://cdn.relaymedia.com/amp/www.civilbeat.org/2017/10/denby-fawcett-why-spam-is-now-under-lock-and-key-at-oahu-stores/
A discussion at a board meeting last month…ladies told me that the back pack food packs being given to poor kids so they won’t go hungry over the weekends? The parents are grabbing the packs and selling the contents to heroin and meth dealers. These aren’t conservative ladies either.

How’s that for a burst of altruistic goodness?

cerulean
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As always, this is a very well-written essay. But it doesn’t seem to increase my (admittedly poor) understanding.

I’d suggest two related things for analyzing this topic. (1) Cui bono. (2) Follow the money.

I’m guessing that at the root of cui bono, it becomes more substantial than altruistic narcissism.

Recusant
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When the Boomers smashed the hierarchical social order, they did it so they could sneer at the hoi poloi too. A hundred years ago such arrogance was allowed only to a vanishingly small portion of the population, now many can indulge in looking down their nose at the lumpen proletariat.

Snobbishness is a great motivator.

cerulean
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I agree that snobishness, navigating, gaming, and tending the pecking order, is a great motivator. Against my earlier comment, I’d agree that snobbishness, in the form of what we’re calling narcisstic altruism, might account for most of the craziness we see. But how did a large part of the population become afflicted with this anti-kin form of craziness in a short time?

That’s where I’d look to cui bono and follow the money.

Richard Raymond
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Bill Robbins
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Not altruism, but pure, unadulterated self-interest. It’s all about receiving positive reinformcement from one’s reference group, which includes such “benefits” as being on boards, attending fundraisers (i.e., celebrations of self-love), riding oneself of guilt (real or imagined), and being “special.”

As for myself, the older I get, the less altruistic I become. I also feel better about myself. It’s everyone else who has a problem.

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The other thought on this post which comes to mind is how Trump is putting to lie the idea most of the General Operating Policies of the government party. Namely, that we cannot enforce immigration law without “comprehensive immigration reform”. Another one, as evidenced by this bleeding heart report from the NYT today? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/world/middleeast/islamic-state-reconstruction.html That we cannot win wars. I was dead set against Trump getting us deeper into the war on ISIS…let the Russians have it. But that was on the principle that the Government Party would deny Trump the ability to prosecute the war and actually do what… Read more »
Redoubt Renee
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Not completely related, but your analysis of Christian Altruism reminded me of the book “Christian Hedonism” by John Piper. Might be an interesting read for you.

Dennis L
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I’m not so sure immigration does not help the Dems. I read a study after the Obama defeat of Romney that showed if the country’s demography was the same as under Reagan, Romney would have won by 3 points.

Unclefrank
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The manipulation of Americans’ tendency toward Narcissistic Altruism is a means to an end. The real answer is Globalism. Of course, most (or all) globalists believe their own propaganda. Narcissistic Altruism (excellent phrase-coining, btw) is the means by which voters are induced to support this globalist open-borders policy. “Tugging on the heart-strings” of individuals with an overriding need to appear (n.b.: “appear” and not “be”) morally superior to others, is money in the bank as far as propagandizing others for support of any agenda. Fortunately for the globalists, the vast majority of Americans are just such individuals. The first step… Read more »
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