The Eternal Guru

The other day, someone asked me about Jordan Peterson, who is all the rage now, especially after his run-in with a local lunatic in London. I must admit, it was a funny 30 minutes, but mostly because Cathy Newman is so dumb. She tried using the active listening technique to paint Peterson as some sort of monster, but she just came off sounding deranged. I’ve run into a lot of women who use this technique. It’s very popular with women in sales for some reason. My guess is it is part of standard sales training.

As far as Peterson, his angry Evil Bert style of speaking is a bit annoying. I know he can’t help it, but his voice conjures images of Kermit going Ike Turner on Miss Piggy. That and I’m just not into the civic nationalist stuff. I’ve heard all of it and know everything they have to say. Ask Peterson why sub-Saharan Africans had not discovered the wheel until Europeans arrived and he runs out of the room. All the tough talk about sticking to facts and clear thinking goes out the door as soon as a taboo topic is mentioned.

That said, Peterson seems to know his limitations. He stays away from taboo subjects as much as possible, so he does not reveal those limitations. That way he can stick to new age advice and religious topics, which he does better than most. He does talk honestly about the biological roots of sex differences and that’s often the best way to introduce people to biological realism. If someone can accept that evolution made boys and girls different cognitively, as well as physiologically, they can accept the diversity of man.

Anyway, I saw this on Maggie’s Farm yesterday. It appears that not everyone is a fan of Peterson. That Mic piece makes a lot of nutty claims, like “cultural Marxism is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory cooked up by conservatives in the 1980’s.” He also says the alt-right are fans of Peterson. It’s the nature of the hive mind to see the world as those inside versus those outside. The people outside are just an undifferentiated other. That means “alt-right” is now another name for “the people outside the Progressive walls.”

The remarkable thing about Peterson is that no one seems to remember the previous versions of him. Self-help gurus have been a common phenomenon in the English speaking world, going back to the 19th century, when a guy named Samuel Hines published the book Self-Help. The birth of mass media after WW2 made it possible for the self-help guru to reach a wide audience. The snake oil salesman put down his patent medicine and picked up a pen. Same pitch, same promise, different vehicle.

Peterson is lot like Stephen Covey from a couple of decades ago. Peterson uses religion and his credentials as an academic to add authority to his work. Covey relied on rich, successful people to provide the authority. His book The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People sold 25 million copies. Everyone wants to be successful, so they will buy the secret if they can. Peterson’s new book, 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos is already a best seller. It promises a lot for just a little, which is the key to a good self-help book.

That’s the thing with all self-help gurus and lifestyle guides is they almost always rely on the appeal to authority. Their presentation can be boiled down to “this is who I am, this is what I have for you and here is why it is good for you.” That first part is critical. The self-help guru must first convince you he is an authority or he has learned from people who are an authority. Covey was fond of name-dropping the successful people he had met, as a way to burnish his credentials. Peterson relies on his credentials as an academic.

Unlike Covey, Peterson’s doles out his secrets in the form of finger-wagging lectures. In his book, the first of his 12 items is a reminder to stand up straight. He’s recycling some quackery from a few years ago called Power Posing. Peterson re-frames it using animals, but it is the same quackery. Rule six is a fancy way of saying “clean your room” and his eighth rule is “tell the truth.” Maybe he is saving it for the next book, but there really should be a rule about not picking your nose and making sure you clean your plate at dinner.

There’s another unique twist to Peterson. He has used his status as victim of the Cult of Modern Liberalism to ingratiate himself with his audience. Most self-help guys eschew the victim stuff. Instead they want you to see them as winners. Peterson is pitching himself as a noble warrior fighting the last futile wars on the college campus. There’s an undercurrent of romanticism to his presentation. That’s probably why his stern granny routine is popular with younger people. It is how they imagine adults used to act before Progressivism.

The interesting thing about the modern professional advice giver is they are filling a role that used to be occupied by priests and ministers. As America lost its religion in the last fifty years, the self-help guru has filled the void. It’s probably why Peterson’s use of religion in his presentation works so well. Rather than invent a new religion, he can just borrows the good stuff from the old ones. People may not believe in God anymore, but they are going to believe in something. Humans are built to be believing machines.

That’s the trouble with the modern age. In the prior age, we had a way to deal with proselytizing fanatics. We made them missionaries and sent them off to convert the savages. If the savages ate them, there were more missionaries ready to go. Those with a burning desire to dispense advice to others were put into the priesthood, so they could help those who needed it. The death of organized Christianity has removed these options from us. As a result, we’re plagued with fanatics, busybodies and scolds.

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Thedore Breehn
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Your post is excellent. Still, I shall always have a soft spot in my heart for anyone who can punch progressives in the nose and get away with it.

Issac
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Issac

When has Peterson bloodied a figurative nose? Individualism has made no discernable headway with the minority identitarian establishment since his rise to prominence among the alt-lite. He does make arguments that sound good to individualists, but I don’t see the evidence that he is converting anyone.

Eddie
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Eddie

I’d say he’s done more than the people who whinge in comment threads that he hasn’t done enough.

John D
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John D

I agree, and I think this is true not only of Peterson but of Ben Shapiro, too. They both bloody many a progressive nose, are powerfully articulate and are winning over scores of young minds. Add to that the courage it takes to wade out into public forums with unpopular ideas lije they consistently do. They should be applauded. I see Z man’s arguments as well, but it’s obvious to me that both of these guys should be seen as the tremendous boon they are.

Issac
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Issac

Caricatures of individualism aren’t any help to you when your opposition is unwaving in their tribal solidairty.

Rev.Hoagie
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Rev.Hoagie

Sure they are, Issac, if only to let you know you’re not alone.

Rhino
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Rhino

If you rely on Ben Shapiro in a fight, you’re bound to lose.

He will always punch right whenever anybody to his right presents himself.

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

Shapiro was a Never-Trumper who liked to decry “racism” on the right..

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

If tribal solidarity is the thing, then we white people may as well pack it in. We’re not a tribe, and we haven’t been for many thousands of years. The good news, in a bleak kind of way, is that our enemies are not a tribe either. They are a temporary federation of people who have been led to accept the need for our – white people’s – extirpation. When we’re gone, they’ll break down into something more akin to real tribalism, and they will fight over the scraps of civilization like packs of rats, while we sleep peacefully in… Read more »

Issac
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Issac

“When we’re gone, they’ll…”

When you start a sentence like this, it should be a strong indicator that you have made a terrible strategic mistake in your thinking.

William
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William

I think if you reread the Manly Men post the appeal of Peterson will become more obvious. Yes, young men do in fact need to be told to do these things. I work in an industry where I see a lot of boys and young men and, even with the best single mothers, something is missing when they don’t have a father. JBP in a way fills that role.

Bunny
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Bunny

You have to constantly restate the obvious with many Millennials. That’s how miseducated and unformed they can be. You are pushing back against a toxic culture that engulfs everyone. It’s very fatiguing, always redirecting back to square one to try to rebuild the foundation. Many Gen Xers fall into the same category. Millennials are indeed from another country. Their metaphysical assumptions are different. You either see it or you don’t. Can’t teach it, you had to live it. Well, maybe someone can teach it, but it’s very difficult, so here’s to Peterson for giving it the old college try, apparently… Read more »

John Smith
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Correct. I was educated in a proggie public school, raised by proggie parents. When I hit the workforce – I hit HARD. JFC – I couldn’t get a decent job, never mind holding one. I was ‘saved’ by none other than Stormin’ Norman Schwartzkopff himself. His autobiography should be mandatory reading for every young man in high school. His message is set your goals, there are no shortcuts, do it realistically, make any sacrifices necessary, and don’t give up. Expect and overcome failure, own your problems and deal with them. He backs that up with ancedotes from his own life… Read more »

R Daneel
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R Daneel

I have got to agree. JBP has a lot of good to say. Of course, he is not “truth” in the style that the Progs try to sell their “Truth”. (Read tyranny)

In the place I work, they hire 80/20, new college grads/experience (read grizzled old farts who know their business). The failure rate for the 80 is 3/4. We get one who is even salvageable for every 3 snowflakes.

The snowflakes think pushing bits is ‘real work’ and are tied to their devices to the exclusion of the real world (meatspace!).

zreader
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zreader

You have to constantly restate the obvious with many Millennials. That’s how miseducated and unformed they can be

Lol. A couple months ago you were on here saying you couldn’t accept HBD because it offends your delicate sensibilities. Who’s miseducated?

Please keep restating the obvious, I’m all ears. Try to bear in mind my miseducators were boomers.

Bunny
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Bunny

“So what you’re saying is…?” I doubt that’s exactly what I said in its proper context. In any case, what is obvious to one generation may not be obvious to the next, not having lived through the same history. Yes, your miseducators were most likely Boomers or Gen Xers, aka your elders. That’s how it usually works. You were done a disservice. Sorry, kid. I would like to call out the Greatest Generation and Dr. Spock for the way they failed my generation, causing us, in turn, to fail yours.

Rien
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In a recent Joe Rogan interview he coined the term: I have discovered how to monetise the SJWs.

Anyway, I think that people like Peterson are extremely useful to switch people. People cannot switch 180 degrees all by themselves. A man like Peterson can help with the first couple of degrees.

BTW, I did learn something about myself from him. So thanks P!

Brigadon
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Brigadon

Peterson, Milo, and Molyneaux… all wrong in various ways, but generally good for ‘entry level’ red pills.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

Molyneux gets lumped in with these guys quite often, but I think many don’t realize that he’s changed some of his beliefs recently. About two or three months ago he announced that he’s now an ethno-nationalist. He realizes that the masses of imported third world people will never favor the small government principles he cherishes. He’s also had several guests on his show from the race realist camp, like Nicholas Wade, Linda Gottfredson, Jared Taylor, and a geneticist from Denmark, who’s name escapes me, and a few others. Molyneux has been adament about race differences and would never run away… Read more »

Brigadon
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Brigadon

When Molyneux stops trying to push his completely untested leftist belief that corporal punishment and violence are irrelevant, I may take him seriously. But so far, his views on family, homosexuality, corporal punishment, and violence, are firmly mired in post-modernistic humanism. The fact that while he has finally admitted that Christians may not be COMPLETE idiots, he still sneers at them from the heights of his ivory tower as superstitious primitives, makes him a less than stalwart example of realist thought. At best he’s a red-pilled leftist. As such, he’s useful, but not even remotely essential. Admitting that race is… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

The “intermediate level” red pills being…?

Brigadon
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Brigadon

Modern Psychologists and Therapists are simply priests that charge a lot more to run the confessional. And they are slightly less successful because their ‘proof by authority’ is a lot less believable to your average superstitious Human.

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I believe you are quite off on your Peterson assessment. He is a serious academic with a long history of reasoned debate and lecturing. His only other book , Maps of Meaning, took 15 years to write. He said he dedicated 3 hours a day to it. Up to a few months ago it sold 500 copies. So if he tailors his book’s serious ideas with simple new agey chapter titles, so what. Strike while the iron is hot. I wouldn’t put him in same category as the other come latelys or lightweight conmen you referred to. If he can… Read more »

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James LePore

Thanks for the link. It is worth watching. I think Peterson may have gotten trolled, it’s hard to tell. His reaction was honest. Why some ethnic groups want to wipe out other ethnic groups is one of the core questions of human existence on the planet.

pyrrhus
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pyrrhus

It’s not a core question, it’s the way the world has worked forever…Ethnic cleansing is the rule, not the exception, as genetic anthropology is demonstrating daily.For example, the Early European Farmers controlled the whole continent several thousands years ago, but were wiped out with scarcely a trace by the Siber people…Our brainwashed white population will find out how that works if it doesn’t become a cohesive people…

Matt
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Matt

So today you’re the scolding lecturer?

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I don’t disagree that some of Peterson’s rules seem blindingly obvious, but in fairness to him I think you need to consider that his target audience is largely composed of milllenial men, many of whom grew up with absentee fathers. They need a remedial course in manhood.

Heartiste writes often about the collapse of manhood in the modern West. My job gives me little exposure to the millenial generation. Most of my exposure to millenial men comes in the gym, so this decline is not apparent to me, but Heartiste makes a persuasive case.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/02/04/america-then-and-now-15/

Dave
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Dave

Zman is definitely way off with this. Peterson is not a fanatic, a busybody or a scold. He has risked his career and social position to take on many of the idiocies of modern Progressivism. He has taken on the “white privilege” myth in many lectures and even in front of hostile student demonstrators. He has spoken in front of Canadian bureaucrats and made them look like fools. All of this and more is available on YouTube. He is not perfect, admits this, and still comes out swinging to take on the B.S. of Progressivism. My God, Zman, you’re still… Read more »

Issac
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Issac

“He has taken on the “white privilege” myth,” where? I’ve heard him obliquely critical of identity politics, but nowhere can I find him defending the white collective, even per se. He, like Sargon, Shapiro, and many other alt-lite figures, espouses liberal individualism with the politely unspoken or rarely mentioned caveat that minorities are entitled to collective rights as granted by 20th century liberal progressive states. The unstated corollary, which the alt-right successfully identified and popularized, is that whites are ip so facto second class individuals among a population of collectives and this dynamic will consume them with or without the… Read more »

Bunny
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Bunny

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zbDggKqt3KA
Nobody ever said he was alt or dissident right, but he has addressed white privilege.

Issac
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Issac

In this video he correctly identifies it as majority privlidge, but incorrectly divorces culture from biology as this is the only way to talk about preserving western culture without violating his taboo of defending the white collective. Again, this is an oblique criticism of identity politics as caustic while failing to address the underlying issue which is that culture per se is not being attacked. White Western culture is being attacked by the influx of other people and their atecedent culture. This has the effect of producing minority privlidge where there once was white privlidge. White privlidge did exist and… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

We get it, Isaac. He has to be just like Jared Taylor or Kevin McDonald or he sucks.

Issac
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Issac

No, he could make liberal arguments contra Taylor. They would pivot on modern minority privlidge generating the current myth of (historically existing) white privlidge.

My criticism of Peterson is not (just) that he is a liberal or individualist, but that he is unwilling to make even a spirited argument for liberalism.

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Racial differences are a step too far, Peterson is walking a very thin line at the moment

Drake
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Drake

Yep – he’s doing good work. That’s a landmine to avoid.

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And he’s in Canada where “hate speech” gets you brought before a tribunal to have your life ruined. His credentials are probably the only thing keeping him safe but the sort of fanatics who run those things would love his scalp.

Matt
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Matt

My initial reply was snippy so let me expand on this a bit. Yes, certain Canadian accepts are painful but it’s not just him it’s millions of Canadian’s so get over it. That whining isn’t even remotely helpful to our cause. What do we have in Jordan Peterson that is useful to our cause, particularly given his role on a university campus? Do we need a dozen more? A hundred more? A thousand more Jordan’s? A hundred-thousand more? That’s a more interesting discussion to have. We need to expand again the free speech on campus Overton window. Jordan clearly understands… Read more »

Rhino
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Rhino

To move forward you must understand the problem. If you think that JBP, whatever his evident merits are (and he has some undoubtedly), is the solution to the problem, then it is evident that you underestimate the problem. The “other things he has to say” content folder is empty. Is it good that he beats up on modern feminism? Yes. Is that a solution? Obviously not or @nero would have already saved us. JBP is no doubt brave and he fights the fight within the limitations that Canadian law places on him, but he is not our savior. Telling us… Read more »

Dave
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Dave

Rhino- Who the hell said Jordan was a savior ? Not even his fans think that. He’s fighting his fight, out in the open, taking all the crap Progressives can throw at him and blowing right through it. That alone is more than the overwhelming majority of the dissident right will ever do,talking tough while hiding behind pseudonyms. I have my problems with him, but he is far more a force for good than the reverse, and he is certainly not some sort of charlatan, as Zman suggests. The guy deserves to make whatever money people are willing to throw… Read more »

Rhino
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Rhino

You sound like you should stand up straighter and clean your room.

Drake
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Drake

Benjamin Franklin made a lot his money on the somewhat snarky Poor Richard self-help series in the mid-1700’s.

Spud Boy
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Spud Boy

People who obsess over a difference of a couple of IQ points between the races will never be taken seriously, because they don’t deserve to be taken seriously.

And I’m not talking about honest academics like Charles Murray, who devoted a very small portion of his book ( The Bell Curve) to this topic.

Wolf Barney
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Wolf Barney

A couple of IQ points? The American black average IQ is 85. The white average IQ is 100. 15 point difference is one standard deviation. It’s an important explanation for vastly different real life outcomes

Spud Boy
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Spud Boy

“15 point difference is one standard deviation.”

How much of that difference is racial, and how much is cultural? If black men would employ themselves and stick around to raise their kids, like they were on track to doing before the welfare state, most of the IQ difference would vanish.

Whites suffering from guilt have managed to de-stigmatize, and even subsidize, all of the pathological behaviors that keep blacks from succeeding.

james+wilson
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james+wilson

Nature, 100, culture, 0. The failure to acknowledge this inflicts a great cruelty.

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

Nature and culture both; the proportions indeterminate. The failure to acknowledge this inflicts moral paralysis.

ByzantineGeneral
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ByzantineGeneral

These are questions that have been exhaustively asked and answered. The answers disagree, but you should investigate and form your own opinion. If you form the wrong opinion, you may be called names.

LFMayor
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LFMayor

It’s fifteen to open at this table. Penny slots are against the back wall.

Alex
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Alex

It wasn’t the death of Christianity that resulted in this lunacy, it was the end of “the frontier” around the time of WWII. No more savages to pacify and convert…

james+wilson
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james+wilson

I fail to understand the down votes.

LFMayor
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LFMayor

Happily we’ve managed to import those wilds to conveniently located section 8 colonies nearest you.
Get your .416 express double out and get busy safari-ing, old son!

Brigadon
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Brigadon

No more places for a crazy free man to be free.

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So I’ve been a Philadelphia Eagles fan since I was a little kid. My parents gave me this old black and white picture of me whispering into Santa’s ear at Christmastime, and I’m wearing my all-time favorite jacket: my Eagles jacket with the dark green chest and white sleeves. I wore it everywhere. In the 1970’s being an Eagles fan was pure torture. They didn’t have a winning season until I was 8. They lost the Super Bowl to the Raiders when I was 10. Ugh. Most of the 1980’s they had losing seasons until Randall Cunningham arrived. If you’re… Read more »

Drake
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Drake

Active listening is a sales technique. But you are supposed to summarize what a person is actually trying to say in order to confirm your understanding. Newman put everything Pederson said through some kind of Prog filter that takes up most of her brain capacity – and spit back some kind of cartoonish strawman version of his statements.

Dutch
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Dutch

Active listening is useful, but it also is an important element of “reframing” an argument or conversation. She was no doubt trying to change the frame, and he was having none of it (I have not actually watched the video). Reframing is not active listening’s fault, but active listening is a necessary part of constructing a good reframe.

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

I’d like to point out that Petsrson’s H index is quite high. Meaning his scientific research is cited hundreds if not thousands if times in the literature. Consider this before you go knocking him.

BillH
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BillH

It’s his shtick. He’s a psychologist for crying out loud, with a side dressing of political science.

Tykebomb
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Tykebomb

I can always rely on theZman to crush my youthful optimism (I have found a new and daring truth!) with the cold hard truth of experience (No, he’s just like this guy from fifty years ago).

booneWaxwell
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booneWaxwell

Zman, I love you, but you are way off.

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

Have to agree. Zman’s natural cynicism makes him seem, at times, resentful of men who – at the moment – are out on the floor scoring baskets while we watch from the bench.

Rhino
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Rhino

Nobody is going to roll up and be the answer to our problems that will set us straight on the path to responsible government, self-governance, restore western civilization, etc. It’s a major failing that the alt-right that believes real change is imminent, especially from our present position. Real change from this position, if it happens at all, is likely a generational proposition at best. Patience is required and I fully expect that victory will come after I’m dead (I’m over 40). To the extent that there is a “solution” at all it is to build up alternate institutions and cultures… Read more »

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Bunny

Well, I think his point is that he will not be coerced by the state or his employer into using an approved set of pronouns, but that he might vo!untarily, out of kindness or courtesy, use them when interacting with mentally disturbed individuals. He put his career on the line in a very public way, so a little bit of enthusiasm may be in order. We don’t have many examples of his kind of moral courage.

Rhino
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Rhino

If you watch the interview he seems more than willing to use them, despite their evident dishonesty, in order to avoid hurting the feelings of the student.

Some fighter.

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

Moral courage is the thing. No, it’s simpler than that: Courage is the thing. Even Mao deserves kudos for leading his adherents on the Long March. Peterson makes his living in a system (I refer to the Canadian university system) that punishes deviancy with a thoroughness and self-righteousness that would make the Massachusetts Bay colony seem like a nudist camp. And as I understand it, it’s even worse in the UK; for the life of me I can’t understand how Pat Condell is still out of prison, for his bold and unrelenting YT videos ridiculing Islam and its sponsors in… Read more »

Richter Rox
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Richter Rox

He works in Canada ,if not careful he can be charged with thought crimes .This keeps him in a smaller box than he would like . Zman you could not do what you do north of the border .

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Yes. I think he’s been very courageous in how he is acted. At the moment, he’s being well rewarded for his bravery but he didn’t know he would at the time and he doesn’t know what the future holds.

TomA
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There is an evolutionary advantage to conveying wisdom to our young, and this optimally occurs during early formative years when the brain is growing rapidly and habits get “hard-wired” so to speak. Religious practices have effectively served this purpose in the past, and new age gurus are trying to fill a void in the present. The problem is that post adolescent humans don’t reprogram all that well. Eventually, any bad habits imbued in the toddler years tend to re-emerge and persist.

Dutch
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Dutch

The Left figured that one out a long time ago.

Allan
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Allan

Government school fanatics, too, understand the importance of having access to children during their formative years. Thus the urgent need to eradicate, eliminate, and close every government school. Each such school is a dungeon for the minds of children who are trapped with professional rotters—often unionized—who deserve to be condemned as child molestors and equated with parasites. This won’t happen, however, with harebrained schemes like school vouchers. Those are a trick to redistribute wealth to the politically connected, to rescue theocratic pabulum pushers from financial ruin, and to make ostensibly private schools dependent upon the whims of politicians and bureaucrats.

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Other Al;
Ah, but with school vouchers somebody besides The State has a say in the matter.

Compulsory, state-directed education is a curious carryover from the original Prussian system where it originated as part of their mass-army national strategy. The foundations of the modern world did not actually arise from or involve it, so why do we think it essential_?

Pimpkin\'s Nephew
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Pimpkin\'s Nephew

I agree. No one assumes that the availability of vouchers will mean parents make the best choices, but it IS a step toward breaking monopoly rule of the state over ‘education’. That’s why the teacher’s unions hate vouchers and why their shills in DC and the Democrat Party have spent thirty years shooting them down. The advantage of a Prussian-style education system, from the controllers’ point of view, is that it can be seeded in different ways to produce variations in the target ‘mass-army’: Now martial fanaticism, now global warming hysteria, now a sentimental love of immigrants: Whatever the system… Read more »

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james+wilson

This reminds me of a Sam Clemens review of a Charles Dickens concert tour that landed in DC in 1868. It was precious, and enticingly close to a take down, just not quite. But even accepting your estimations of Peterson I’d allow him more credit. There is not a shred of cowardice in him. That is unique among academics. He is causing pain to the entrenched far left, and providing dry land where there is none for some others. He has been quite frank in the matter of IQ–and race–and yes, remains a civic nationalist, as if that is not… Read more »

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Most of these faux media-pundit face-offs are staged by publicists to promote new movies and books. The Peterson interview was a wildly successful publicity event for a new book. The host did her job admirably. She delivered.

Bunny
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Bunny

Cathy Newman appears to be a fan of what she calls the “car crash” interview, as it makes for “compelling viewing.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11934397/Why-I-went-full-throttle-in-my-own-car-crash-interview.html She’s the real deal as far as feminist bona fides go. “Newman admitted she ‘positively discriminates in favour of women’ to counter the natural male-centric bias.” However, she didn’t take her own advice. “If you get too heavy handed you can run into difficulties, and it becomes very much a battle of the sexes, and very negative,” Newman said in an interview with The Independent. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/channel-4-newsreader-cathy-newman-says-public-humiliation-is-the-answer-for-sexist-remarks-8721200.html I doubt the interview was stage managed, although it most likely was… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
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Abelard Lindsey

Blogger Al Fin generally endorses Jordan Peterson.

https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2018/02/01/jordan-petersons-12-rules-for-life-is-making-waves/

Anything endorsed by AlFin is worth paying attention to.

Edward
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Edward

You are a being harsh on Jordan Petersen. He’s filling a void that needs to be filled, and he’s wisely picking his battles.

USecpat
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USecpat

You’re poorest blog to date, at least that I’ve read. Because it’s been done before doesn’t mean it’s not true or it’s quackery.
Just one example; Standing up straight. If you don’t think that counts, you’ve never gotten out of the house and into the real world. It’s always noticed and that counts.
Sounds more like you’re jealous of Peterson’s success.
All of that is hard for a fan of your’s to believe so WTF?

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There are academics who spout that men and women have no differences and that the differences are a state of mind. Those people who buy those things don’t just get useless degrees, they take those degrees to go work for stupid people passionately trying to make policies and laws. There’s armies of them in government and HR positions. Whatever you feel about academics, fighting in that realm is important because of the pipeline from university to policy. Credentials are important if only for the fact that they matter to some people. His prominence came from fighting laws in Canada criminalizing… Read more »

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EMP

If anything, I fault Dr. Peterson for maintaining and espousing an incomplete view on the nature of state power. What’s worse, he doesn’t acknowledge his limited understanding. His new book conflates the state as just another “hierarchy of competence” multiple times. Methinks he needs a crash course in Rothbard, starting with Anatomy of the State. Judging by his avoidance of taboo subjects in the past, I fear he’d have to unlearn so many thinking errors, wrestling with Rothbards conclusions, that he’d have to drop off the map for a few years or more before reemerging from the depths of mental… Read more »

Ron
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Ron

Dr. Peterson isn’t about stressing the the need to adjust external mechanisms like the state, such as making a better mousetrap out of government and institutions. He is all about individual fixing themselves. When a person has their life in order and their head screwed on straight , armed with truth, everything else is secondary. That’s the problem with SJW’s–They don’t want to be tasked to be held responsible for cleaning up their lives, but demand a unrealistic world to clean up after them, and guarantee equal or superior outcomes for mediocre or non-performance.

A.B. Prosper
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A.B. Prosper

I just bought his book actually. It was on sale.

That aside, Peterson isn’t a Red Pill, he’s a Purple Pill or Realism 101 guy and a great intro to thinking for yourself a little. Normies love him because he’s manageable and while some may stop with him, many will go on to the advanced realism course

ColoComment
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ColoComment

There’s no single silver bullet that will slay the SJW army. But, …if Peterson’s interview responses (I’ll probably not bother read his book, but the interview was most entertaining): …where he calls out whatsername for attributing salary disparity to gender ALONE & using she herself as an example, provides a number of additional possible causes, and …where he tosses back at her (paraphrased), “”I’m offended. You thought nothing of offending me…. And that’s ok, Because free speech will offend somebody and that’s their problem, not the speaker’s,” …invites at least one non-thinker to reflect on SJW/liberal slogans, then what’s the… Read more »

MSimon
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Peterson is not arguing from authority. He is arguing from biology.

A whole different animal.

Singh
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Singh

So you basically exported your trash to other people & are mad that the reverse is occurring।।

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