An Ethnocentric Death Cult

Is neoconservativism just ethnocentric millenarianism? The neocons tend toward the apocalyptic in their language and they always wear the mask of the righteous when discussing the issues they view as central to the narrative of their faith. You never hear a neocon say that “well, good people can disagree.” Instead, they describe those with whom they disagree as the epitome of evil, usually as agents of the current stand-in for you know who. Their lust for war suggests a strong desire to immanentize the eschaton.

We tend to think of suicide cults as groups of lonely losers, preyed on by a charismatic sociopath, who convinces them of the coming end times. They either come to the movement convinced that only a cataclysm can set things right or they become convinced by the teachings of the cult that the great reckoning is at hand. It’s fairly typical, according to people who study the phenomenon, for the people in these movements to see themselves as a put upon minority, operating as a sanctuary for the righteous.

While it is true that millenarianism tends to operate on the fringes of society, it is not a requirement. The prophets of the Jewish Bible are basically outsiders interpreting events in the context of an apocalyptic timetable, but Judaism itself is defined by such a timetable. Judaism is the belief in a Messiah, who will deliver Jews from their enemies and rule over a Jewish kingdom.¹ Christianity is founded on the idea of a second coming, when Christ will return to reign as king with the just, both living and dead.²

The point here is that a belief in the end times or a foreboding sense of a coming cataclysm is not necessarily fringe or crazy. In fact, it is common in human societies, suggesting it is a common tendency in people. Therefore it is not outside the realm of possibility that neoconservativsim is, at its root, a form of millenarianism. It certainly has a strong Levantine edge to it and the adherents clearly view themselves as an oppressed minority in the Biblical sense, despite their elevated status in the culture and politics.

In fact, it is a curious feature of neoconservativism today. When anyone notices that it was explicitly Jewish at its founding and is almost exclusively Jewish today, the neocon cries out, demanding the person noticing be punished. It’s as if noticing what is a defining feature, something the founders of the cult advertised, causes the adherents physical pain. What is often interpreted as subversive obfuscation, could very well be typical cult behavior. People in cults seek to disappear, which is why they joined the cult.

Just watch the body language in this interview of Noah Rothman done by Tucker Carlson the other night. What looks like a sociopath’s gambit, the lying by omission and half truths, can also be interpreted as a fear response. Rothman is promoting World War III with Russia, calling anyone not down with nuclear winter an agent of Putin, who is the current stand in for you know who. When Carlson focuses on what Rothman has written, putting the focus on him as an individual, Rothman physically recoils, like he is being assaulted.

Whether or not neoconservatism is a cult is debatable, but what is not debatable is the lust for the final great confrontation. For obvious reasons, neocons oscillate with rapturous enthusiasm whenever war in the Levant is mentioned, but they are obsessed with the great final conflict between good an evil. Their ancestral hatred for Russia is one element, but most neocons were weened on the belief that a nuclear war with Russian was inevitable. It is entirely possible that the belief has come to define them as individuals.

They also seem to think Trump is a sign of the coming end times, when the great battle between the righteous and the wicked will reach its denouement. So much so that guys like Noah Rothman argue it is time usher in that final battle. This from a guy who would soil himself in a physical confrontation. As Tucker Carlson has recently started to mention, hatred of Donald Trump is now bringing the neocons in league with the Progressives, by turning the Left into vocal advocates for violence against opponents at home and abroad.

It is tempting to write-off the neocons as lounge chair imperialists with divided loyalties, but the central theme to their warmongering is always Russia. Their general lack of interest in confronting China, which a real threat to the US, or Mexico, which is a collapsing narco-state on our border, suggests violence is not the core issue. We launch drone attacks all over the Middle East, we could certainly drone Mexican drug cartels. If the neocon just wanted blood, that would be a much more promising target, but they ignore it.

Their singular focus is Russia. Even their opposition to Trump is based on his unwillingness to talk about Putin as you know who. If you list all of the neocon wars and wish-for wars, Russia is the common theme. The defining characteristic of the neocon is a hatred for Russia, viewing it as the Mordor in the great battle between the righteous and the wicked. Their reason to exist, the point of their lives, is to rally the faithful in the final confrontation. Whatever it was, neoconservatism now functions like a death cult.

¹I know.

²I know.

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Rabbi High Comma
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Judaism/Zionism, are at their core, the belief that for Hashem to return to earth, jews must destroy all that is non-jewish.

Communism is its agnostic brother. Conceived of by jews who rejected the shtetl, the goyim’s identity must be destroyed so that jews can assimilate on the jews’ terms.

Neoconservatism = the best of both!

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Many, many years ago (sometime after the end of the Great War and the beginning of the Second World War) some German intellectuals across the political spectrum got together to write a one-off journal about the Jewish Question. Contributors were Jewish and non-Jewish, philo- and antisemitic. Ernst Junger’s piece (which they held over his head during denazification to try to get him to undergo the process) said plainly that there was one way to defeat the Jew: to see him. It’s true. He further went on to say that one could be German, or Jewish, but not both, which is… Read more »

DeBeers Diamonds
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DeBeers Diamonds

Shame, fear or guilt.

We will probably have to use fear.

Observer
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“There was one way to defeat the Jew: to see him.” THIS. Jews are not magical, not all-powerful & not even all that smart.* Their outsized, malignant influence in the West relies on one essential element: Goy’s trust. Goys believe, or are led to believe, that Jews are essentially just like us. That is, that they share our ethics, morals, values & loyalties. So we extend our European, universalist, honor-based, individualist trust to them. And the Semitic, clannish, shame-based, nepotistic Jews use that trust to benefit themselves, their families & their tribe at our expense. The entire process comes to… Read more »

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I personally like and admire Russia – her immense literary and scientific achievements under harsh circumstance, her awesome sacrifices against invaders, her vast and open spaces. I’ve always believed that we Americans and the Russians have something in common – our awkward relationship to ‘Europe’, the homeland of white culture and civilization. Now that Europe slides into the historical abyss, and as a population disaster springs out of Africa, either Russia or the USA must rally the white race against the encroaching hordes, while somehow holding off China. It’s no secret that Russia cannot prevent China’s absorption of its eastern… Read more »

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That is what (((they))) want.

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

Hate to admit it, but you are probably right.

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Pimpkin, my view is the same. Americans and Russians do have a lot in common,. One thing we have in common is having to contend with, and defend against, a sustained intellectual assault by ((( them ))), the objective of which is our destruction. The Russians have had to endure this for a far longer period of time than we have. The neo-Cohens know this. The John Boltons of the world know this as well. The neo-Cohens, like Billy Kristol, Elliot Abrams, Paulie Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Charlie Krauthammer, the Dickie Cheney, Alan Dershowitz, Max Boot, et al, are… Read more »

Bellator
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Not really. A nuke war would toast the cities. Where do the nonwhites live?

DriesNK
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Russians are daring pioneers. Siberia didn’t have to be Russian, but they made a successful bid for it in 16th century. Chinese didn’t know what hit them when Cossack explorers and Russian merchants appeared on their borders. One more note – at the height of their power Manchu recognized Russia as an equal and their messengers bowed in presence of Empress Elisabeth II. Meanwhile, Manchu expected bows from British envoys. Obviously even then UK wasn’t considered equal to Russia.

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The Chinese never have recognized the Russians or anyone else as equals.When visiting a foreign monarch in their own country Chinese bowed but expected foreigners to prostrate themselves(kowtow) in front of the Chinese ruler.The British didn’t kowtow. The contemporary Chinese despise the Russians and consider them a bunch of lazy drunks.

Edward
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Edward

So, are you saying or do you believe that as relations between Russian and Trump continue to deteriorate, the neocons will start to support Trump?

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I don’t think the neocons plan to do any of the dying. That’s for white boys from the Midwest and the South.

Andrew
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I have wondered about the topic also. When one is raised in the hive, one tends to think like the hive. Then add in living in a bubble, not wanting to be outside of the “in” group, and just going along to get along could answer some of it.
Perhaps some of our betters can’t accept that their view of things may be wrong.
How many times have you encountered someone that when presented facts contrary to their belief, refuses to acknowledge reality and attacks the messenger.

thud
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Russia can be contained and given the occasional pat on the head to show we ‘respect’ their culture etc. china, islamo fascists and others of their ilk are as you say the real threat but are ignored both in Washington and by what passes as a govt here in U.K.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Ignored would be nice. Islam was near extinct under Nasserite socialism. Only village grannies wore hijab. China, stuck in a moribund 1950’s economy. Remember bicycles? Africa, too, mired in post-Western Lumumba Independence. Now our problem is: they have been weaponized, and pointed at us. The neocons want to destroy the Orthodox shield wall- and finally wipe out the last Christians in the Mideast. I suspect that was the purpose of the Iraq war. The Afghan war gave America, Europe, and Persia (many non-Muslims there) the opioid crisis. The Balkans, then post 9/11, were a replay of the two Opium Wars… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Forgot a detail: after 1973, Arafat started Lenanon’s Beirut war in 1975. Then came Khomeini and Soviet Afghanistan in ’79.

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The Russian investigation is completely bogus and reeks of desperation.

My disappointment lies with fellow Americans who refuse to see this.

The dems dragged out a two-bit whore as their star witness and the moldy corpse of Cold War Soviet Russia.

Yet there are plenty of people who cheer on this nonsense.

Tax Slave
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They don’t exactly cheer. Does a rabies infected dog “cheer”?

Lawrence
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Anyone with two brain cells can see what you’re doing here, ZIMMERMAN.You’re singling out the elements among your fellow Jews who you think may cause the goyim to rise against the whole Jewish community at some point, the (((neocohens))), and saying “See? THESE GUYS HERE, AND ONLY THESE GUYS, are the problem.” We see Jews doing it all the time. When (((you guys))) just can’t deny the criminal activities of some some elements of your tribe you resort to this kind of damage control strategy. “Oh it’s the secular Jews. Oh it’s the communist Jews. Oh it’s the neocon Jews.”… Read more »

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

Sieg Heil! Oh, never mind.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Upvoted, cuz funny!
In an evil, Karl McHungus kind of way.

surly
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surly

Lawrence, I’ve lately been wondering about Zman. God knows I love to read you, Z, you’re a great communicator. Sometimes you leave little tells out there, much like a Russian trying to pretend to be an American in the comments on a forum. Your occasional idiosyncratic lapses eventually caused me to say “hey wait a minute”.

Not that it matters. You’re fun to read, and it’s nice to have you on our side in some of the most important matters.

Knowing, or suspecting, helps explain the odd incongruence here and there.

Carry on…

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Despite your footnotes I’m going to point out that Christian millenarianism/chiliasm did not begin until Joachim of Flora in the late 12th century. It is not a part of orthodox Christianity, despite the fact that it seems to have spread around quite a bit. Other than that, I agree with every word. It is obvious at this point that the neocon obsession with Russia was never all about Communism. Communism just happened to be the commonality that made the neocon and the traditional conservative allies in the late 20th century. Libertarian economics tied things together a bit, but turned out… Read more »

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Jesus himself was prophesying the imminent coming if the Kingdom of God. And one of the canonical Christian texts is the Apocalypse of John. They weren’t millennaria, of course, because they thought the end times were upon them, but they sure were apocalyptic.

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Jesus said even he didn’t know when. So much for imminence.

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Matthew 4:17.

Alzaebo
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Religions are a guideline. We work towards their expectations. Since organized religions began as politics, even though the original story is forgotten, we still work towards the ends. Sometime after a political prisoner, John at Patmos, the Revelator, snuck his coded warnings past the secret police censors, Har Meggido happened and Israel was destroyed. Good King Jesus might have brought reform to Israel, thus making it a Kingdom. Some thought it meant “independence”, seperation, with the foreigners out and themselves in charge. If we could stop debasing and degrading the Book, we could learn it’s true (political) lessons. It could… Read more »

Al from da Nort
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Al from da Nort

Al Z;

The yearning in your last para. is *exactly* where a lot of all this trouble comes from. Consider:
– If the Bible is untrue, why bother with a rewrite_?
– If the Bible *is* true, then a rewrite is a dangerous project, to say the least.

Alzaebo
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Thanks much for putting up with me bleeding all over the page. Why must it be 100% untrue (all made up), or 100% ‘literally true’ as you interpret it? Perhaps, a concordance. For all of them, all the books made holy by time. Yes, without question you have a soul and a World Beyond, both heaven and hells. Not as just words, either. No- you, your soul isn’t in danger. Me, I don’t seek salvation. Woops, forgot to add or admit: your way works! For many, most, it does get them safely to a heaven denied to many more. As… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Where can I find those ideas? I’d like to review what you’ve learned. Been thinking about your investigations into the French madness a lot. I’m wondering about the start- who started the mass killing? How the he** does that happen? And about the end- what stopped it? What was the new order? Sadly, I heard that a bankrupt Louis IV got his bridge loan from a Juice banker, with one condition: only if would send 10 of his friends, and if they would send 10 of their friends, etc, and thus the Revolutionary Age was funded. (Also, I don’t know… Read more »

TomA
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If some stranger came to your house and started ranting endlessly about how evil your neighbor was and how you should grab a firearm and to go shoot him, you would rightly perceive that this kook was the real danger in the room. This is how you destroy trust in any society, and that is the main side-effect of apocalyptic warmongering.

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I should be used to it by now, but i still get apalled when folk like rothman lie and deny in the face of black and white evidence. And then to justify and squid ink his way about when pinned down is extremely, sickeningly unattractive. By the end of his time with tucker i was hoping to see his mendacious self given a once over with a 2×4. It would be just. This is another example where a duel or the possibility of a duel would serve to attenuate the worst liars in the public arena.

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

What I want to know is: what exactly does John Bolton do on Friday night?

Kentucky Headhunter
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On Friday nights? Why he’s out making sweet, sweet love to all the ladies! Oh, wait, that’s Michael Bolton.

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Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

Are you people all really that slow?

LFMayor
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LFMayor

They passed a law
In sixty four to give those
Who ain’t got
A little more.

Burn him.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Oh damn. So… unfortunate.

(Dammit! I cannot stop sniggering!
Away with thee, Satan!)

Tamaqua
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Tamaqua

Probably practices his tough guy act for the cameras while dreading having to face Mattis and Kelly in a meeting when they tell him he doesn’t get to march us off to war over a false flag. I hope, just once, Kelly looks him in the eye and says- “My son was killed in one of your endless fucking wars, and I won’t spill any more American blood in Syria because you want to try it again, you sorry fuck.”

Mike@Mike.Mike
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Mike@Mike.Mike

I’m embarrassed to ask, but who are the the references to “you know who” directed at? It’s not the usually tri-bubbled group.

And Rothman looks like a Soros bastard.

BestGuest
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BestGuest

The bloke with the funny moustache, chancellor of Germany, kicked off WWII.

Mike@Mike.Mike
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Mike@Mike.Mike

Ah yes, thanks.

Alex
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Alex

Hoofbeats. Always with the hoofbeats.

Tax Slave
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Tax Slave

But not cloven hoofs, mind you.

Herrman
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Herrman

Most men over 50 hear them. We tend to misinterpret the hot grizzly-bear breath on our necks as history-making events about to unfold before our eyes. Same as it ever was.

Dutch
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Dutch

Yup, that pulsing in your ears, and the way you can’t focus as well or as long as you used to. It couldn’t just be age, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and the occasional obituaries of old friends. No, it must be those Cossack horses pounding away, dammit!

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

OMG. Classic. Classic!!

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So we get this right on the heels of Trump signaling his intention of leaving Syria. The usual actors start screaming for action again because of dead babies. Nothing ever changes.
By hook or crook they may just get the big war they lust for. Trump being the fool with all his current troubles is playing along just as they figured he would.

Drake
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I’m not usually a conspiracy guy, but wow this thing stinks. Less than a week after Trump signals that we are getting out of Syria – because we have no national interests there – there is this ham-fisted attempt to draw us in. The whole thing looks staged.

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BestGuest

I suspect that Javanka having his ear doesn’t help.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I’m sick to my stomach over this.
False flags all the way down now.

It’s the new normal- we’re supposed to keep swallowing this shit?
No way to run a country.

Tully
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Tully

might be prudent to wait a bit before running your mouth off about who’s a fool. It could end up being you.

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still hanging on, still in denial eh?

Tully
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Tully

I prefer to wait till something actually happens before I give my opinion of it. But that’s just me. Please continue to tell us all how much smarter you are than President Trump.

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Or you can go by past behavior, you know, like a year ago in Syria.

Tully
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Tully

Haven’t you ever invested money before? “Past results are no indication of future returns”.

Drake
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Drake

I saw that Rothman interview last night between innings. He gave me the creeps and set off my alarms as a liar and sociopath. Good for Tucker calling him out as a liar.

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Yes Rothman has that Backfeifengesicht vibe.

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BestGuest

“German compound word for a ‘face that should be slapped'” I learned a new word today!

Shyuejinn MAA
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Shyuejinn MAA

In French it’s called a tête à claques

Saml Adams
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Saml Adams

Caught it on the radio, and the same vibe came out. He just kept trying to twist off the gaff, even when Carlson was reading his direct quotes. Thoroughly skeevy sounding guy–but typical of the “let’s you and him fight” types that are endemic around here.

surly
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I watched it too. Tucker interviews and pokes at a lot of establishment people, and of course they are typically smug and annoying, but this guy was more than usually disturbing. If there was ever someone you’d want to slap a helmet on and push out of a plane over one of their war zones, he’s it.

Toddy Cat
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I guess that this just proves that, if you deny the real Messiah, you’ll fall for anything Messianic. And of course, most Neocon types were fine with Russia back when it was Communist, and hence a real threat to the U.S., until the Soviets started backing Nassar, and Nixon swung the US totally behind Israel.

The Neocons are utterly loyal to their country; it just isn’t the United States.

Hanoi Paris Hilton
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Hanoi Paris Hilton

Great, Mister Z, that you’ve recently announced to all of us here that the JQ isn’t your problem and to include you out from the mob of WN Jooo-haters.

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As my cousin likes to point out, we got a Syrian gas attack within days of reports that Trump issued orders to prepare for a drawdown, and only a few months after Russia announced the same following our successful obliteration of ISIS.

I’m apparently a Putin troll for noticing this too.

akajhon
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akajhon

thankQ,,,

Dutch
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Dutch

And some probably retired Russian guy in the U.K. gets a dramatic knock-off attempt using weird poisons on his doorknob. Do the Russians really need to be doing this sort of thing to keep their people in line? I’m sure the occasional disappearance, no muss-no fuss, would accomplish the same discipline without all the provocative nerve agent stuff. Just sayin’…

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

So odd that Skirpal was working with Steele of the dossier. Such coincidences!

(And that Litivenko left a trail of polonium radiation from the airport to his motel room. As a tritium trigger for nuclear weapons, only 5 grams per year are produced in Russia. Since he’s buried in a Muslum graveyard, no way would he have been smuggling it out for Islamic pay.)

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

This is what, the third time?
The fifth time if you count “barrel bombs”- which the media used the same photo for in 2013 and 2015.

Dutch
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Dutch

At some levels, this whole JQ thing is like the kid in the outfield picking dandelions and not noticing the ball game going on. We have a star chamber trying to take down our elected government (all the so-called “evidence” is secret, no prosecutorial misbehavior is out of bounds, and no verdict other than impeachment or resignation is acceptable). We have our entire digital selves entrusted to one guy, the little booster-chair dude at the hearings this week. We cannot say or do anything contrary to the powers that be at anytime, even on our own time, without risking the… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Kevin MacDonald said that no one with an IQ below 120 should speak about the JQ.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Observer knocked it outta the park yesterday.
We really do learn from our betters.

The problem is the copycats.
The infection is spread.
Excision or triage?

John Smith
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I am not a neocon or a cultist… But to me, it sure feels 1939-ish out there Z. I can see one lone idiot setting off that powder keg too. If the joos don’t do it some other idiot will.

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I’m getting worried for Tu-Ca’s show. If you thought he showed up Noah Rothman in that exchange, check out his interviews with Max Boot and Ralph Peters. I mean really, do, if you haven’t seen them before. The neocons will be after his scalp now.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Glenn Beck lost his show on Fox when he called attention to George Soro’s personal history.

JohnTyler
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JohnTyler

Russian supported Syria is a F’n mess. If Assad falls, with or without USA “help,” who , what will replace him? Well, the ONLY other game in town there is ISIS and/or other Sunni tribes that will exterminate everybody else not of their tribe. It ‘s sort of like replacing Stalin for Hitler; which mass murderer do you pick? I pick neither. The USA needs to stay the hell out of that mess and if Russia wants to get into that toilet, let them. USA involvement in the ME had led to either wars or terrorist attacks; both of which… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

That’s the amazing trick: Since Bush 1, politicians have convinced most Americans that what goes on in the Middle East is worth American lives.

Don’t tell me we must protect the oil. The Arabs can’t eat their oil. They must sell it and oil is fungible.

There is another reason for our endless quagmire there.

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The Rothman interview was amazing. It could have been staged by someone producing a National Socialist propaganda film. Rothman really looked like Peter Lorre in M.

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“As Tucker Carlson has recently started to mention, hatred of Donald Trump is now bringing the neocons in league with the Progressives, by turning the Left into vocal advocates for violence against opponents at home and abroad.”

The Left’s threats and demands to “deplatform” dissidents are NeoCon tropes (opponents = Evil) brought home.

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“The defining characteristic of the neocon is a hatred for Russia”

Immigrants bring their stupid quarrels and feuds here with them. NeoCon = Trotsky dead-enderss still battling Stalin.

Toddy Cat
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Toddy Cat

Israel, Stalin, Trotsky, Trump, etc aside, you really have to wonder about the sanity of these people, almost exclusively denizens of NYC, LA, and DC. If the Russkies start busting American cities with nukes, what cities are going to top their list? Hint; it ain’t going to be Topeka, Denver, or Oklahoma City. Lunacy, even by the standards of their own self-interest.

YIH
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YIH

You pretty much describe who I like to call ”Little Benny”:
http://www.returnofkings.com/167665/ben-shapiro-is-the-original-tradthot
RoK gets the shoah on the road with Little Benny.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

I read that link. Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.

james wilson
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So many references to the JQ. Not enough questioning of how Americans became so vulnerable to manipulation. In 1800 less than half of white men were eligible to vote. By the Civil War universal suffrage for white men was a fact. That alone provided fertile ground to prepare for planting the war for Universalism and sustaining it. The way was cleared for subversives before the Polish Jews arrived, and the next great planting was the crop of 1919. The inclusion of women to democratic politics makes this system of government a plaything of master manipulators, who see democracy correctly as… Read more »

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Can we agree that we have two interrelated problems? One, a hostile, ethnocentric elite that views us as cattle and two, a native population with a predisposition for pathological universalism?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Both correct. (“…made a Jew out of me” is a great line.)

The Bible is a Missionaria Protectiva.
It’s fertile ground can cultivate many crops.
That’s why I would wish to popularize a secular reading of it, that we might see the Jew, and ourselves, doing the same things.

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You have described two problems. I am describing the style of government which makes those problems inevitable. Without the enfranchisement of debtors (of innumerable types) and women, the Jews and Puritans would be fighting uphill. Currently I am being not amused by the feminization of baseball, but it’s just everywhere. Resistance is futile.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I see it now. We opened the door.
Should we complain when something comes in? Blaming them, while ignoring our role in it? As if we were perfect before.

I make the same argument regarding Mexicans, or convicts, or welfare queens.
They didn’t write our laws, our rules.
We did.

Dutch
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Alzaebo, your comment sort of stopped me in my tracks. Sometimes important things are out there, and simply need pointing out.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

No, no! The credit goes to james wilson and Line, and all the other great commentors here.
I am overwrought, and you are too kind.

(Gushing all over the page, as I fear that the original Christians- of Antioch- are about to be wiped out)

Perceptor
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I don’t think death cult is a good analogy at all. Neocons back perceived Jewish interests and Russia has often been on the wrong side of that. A death cult seeks ends which are detrimental to itself, ultimately its own suicide like in Jonesboro. Neocons are adaptive in the sense that they expand their own genome at the expense of that of competing groups. European and Arab soldiers cancelling each other out—beautiful! It’s a powerful life cult after the mold of the Torah. The cultish aspects arise from a veil of disguise needed to get others to go along, deceiving… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Excellent. Excellent. We get our enemies to kill each other.

A Chinese saying, “Monkey sits on mountain and watches two tigers tear each other apart.”

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

We were loved before. LOVED.
Not hated and feared.

Dupont Circle
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Dupont Circle

Great article. There is something bizarre about the obsession with Russia. I assumed it was more feminist hatred of normal masculine men. But, it could be both.

Zeroth Tollrants
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All that I know is, if the blue check marks want war, they need to enlist, or have their children enlist, because my son, son-in-law, nephews, and grandsons aren’t fighting their RaHoWa for Israel. Full stop.

wholy1
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wholy1

Why is it that so many of the so-called “neocon ” war-mongers are . . . “CHICKEN-hawks” such as SICK Chaney and John Bolton?

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Noha Rothman wouldn’t be some type of his would he?

Georgiaboy61
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Georgiaboy61

Re: “They also seem to think Trump is a sign of the coming end times, when the great battle between the righteous and the wicked will reach its denouement. So much so that guys like Noah Rothman argue it is time usher in that final battle. This from a guy who would soil himself in a physical confrontation.” The solution to the problem of neo-conservatism is to give the neo-cons what they say they want – but not quite in the manner they want it. They say they want war with Russia; they demand that the U.S. and NATO throw… Read more »

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Brooklyn

“The defining characteristic of the neocon is a hatred for Russia, viewing it as the Mordor in the great battle between the righteous and the wicked. ” I’ve said it before but I think that the heart of the matter is that what we are coping with is a generation of hacks, the useless sons of the intellectuals who founded the movement during the fight with communism. These men were raised and prepared to play the simple part of being the anti-soviet line in a Co-Dominium that all the elites figured would be around for the next couple of centuries.… Read more »

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[…] As I’ve pointed out in the past, whatever it was, neoconservatism is now just an ethnocentric death cult. It is a strange blend of Zionism and anti-majoritarianism, that lacks an intellectual core. The list of neocon thinkers is not exactly a glittering array of heavy weight intellectuals. Rothman is a smarmy twerp. John Podhoretz is a vulgarian. Max Boot appears to be struggling with mental illness. Bill Kristol is a bitter old fool. Jonah Goldberg is a frumpy dufus. It’s like a Jewish version of the Kennedy family, minus the homicides. […]