The Jewish Dilemma

Like the fog, talk of nationalism is slowly starting to roll in on the intellectual and pseudo-intellectual conversations of the West. One reason for this is the rise of populist movements in Europe and America, responding to the importation of non-Western people into Western nations. Another reason for the rise in nationalism is the sense that the ruling classes of the West are no longer Western. To the typical occidental, the elites seem foreign and oriental in the language and dispositions.

The emerging debate about nationalism among the intellectual and pseudo-intellectual classes is therefore reactionary. Across the board, the debate is being picked up by people so unfamiliar with the topic, they struggle with the basics of the concept. This column by Dennis Prager in the American Zionist broadsheet The Daily Wire is a good example of the fumbling you see when these people take up the issue. He treats the word like it is on loan from a foreign race of men or possibly space aliens.

Nationalism presents a particularity difficult problem for the Jewish ruling elite, which is another thing you see in the Prager piece. The word “nationalism” is derived from the word “nation” and that comes to us from the Old French word nacion, which means birth, rank, descendants, relatives, country, homeland. The French, of course, inherited the meaning from the Latin word for “birth, origin, breed, kind, species, race of people, tribe.” The word nationalism means loyalty to a people, your people.

If the word nationalism means what it actually means, then it presents an obvious dilemma for diaspora Jews in the Occident. If Jewishness is what the religion says, then Jews are their own race of people. Jewish nationalism would therefore be to the Jewish people and the state of Israel. One cannot be equally loyal to two nations or two of anything, for that matter. Inevitably, you will have to pick between the two, thus establishing one as the primary loyalty and the other secondary.

This is the age old issue with Jews in the diaspora. For the longest time, they were accused of dual loyalty, but in reality they were accused of having no loyalty. Like so much about this topic, the facts have been corrupted to obscure the truth. In reality, the accusation was that the primary loyalty of Jews was to their people and the apparent loyalty to their host population was out of convenience and necessity. The core of Western antisemitism in the West is the claim that Jews are not us.

Jewish intellectuals have always understood this, so after the Second World War, they pounced on the opportunity to anathematize the concept of nationalism. The claim was that nationalism was the cause of the great industrial wars that reduced the West to rubble and gave rise to fascism. Therefore, to avoid a repeat of those horrors, nationalism must be stamped out. In fairness, this was not solely a Jewish project, as there were plenty of gentile communists who embraced the idea.

Still, the primary beneficiaries of anti-nationalism were Jews. In America, this allowed Jews to enter the ruling class and by extension the global ruling elite. The global power of the American Empire, now including the international financial network, gave diaspora Jews unprecedented power. Jews are now wildly over-represented in all of the positions of power and influence. While this is a popular talking point for anti-Semites, it has also been a point of pride for Jews themselves.

We see why Zionist like Denis Prager are terrified by the sudden reappearance nationalism in the West. If the people of the Occident regain their love of self, then Jews are on the horns of a dilemma. They can either assume their traditional role as guests in their host counties or they can join their neighbors in these host countries and place loyalty to their neighbors over loyalty to their ancient tribe. Judaism becomes just a remnant of who they used to be, in the same way Catholicism is for the Irish.

The third option, one you see in the Prager piece and in the Ben Shapiro book is to muddy the waters on the whole issue. For example, Prager defines good nationalism as that which is good for him, while bad nationalism is when it is bad for him. Ben Shapiro, on the other hand, tries to redefine 2,000 years of Western history to make Jews the loyal partners of Christendom. The absurd concept of Judeo-Christianity is just an effort to rewrite the past to insert his ancestors into your family tree.

Then there is the problem of Israel, which is an ethno-state, despite the humorous efforts to prove otherwise. Jews see the physical land as theirs because according to the central tenant of their faith, God gave it to them. Their loyalty to the land of Israel is an expression of their loyalty to the people of Israel, wherever they may reside. In this regard, Judaism is the most pure expression of nationalism, as it literally transcends time and physical boundaries. Israel is the symbol of that blood loyalty.

You really cannot square that reality with objections to the French demanding their country be for the French people, as defined by the French people. If what it means to be a Jew is defined by Jews, which is literally true, then what is the moral or factual objections to Germans defining what it means to be German? There is none, of course, which is why Israel has always been a problem for diaspora Jews. You can’t be a Zionist, while preaching multiculturalism and open borders.

The usual suspects assume this contradiction will inevitably lead to the age old conflict, but that is not necessarily true. Much of the history of antisemitism is apocryphal, used by Jews to gaslight themselves into remaining loyal to the tribe. In fact, Jewish identity in America is largely a negative one now as a result. To be authentically Jewish is to believe that your gentile neighbors will one day pull their khaki outfits from the back of the closet and get the trains running on time again.

The alternative is for diaspora Jews in America to come to terms with the fact they have a different history from the rest of the Tribe. They represent a fork in God’s project, creating a new tribe of Israel. This new tribe places its primary loyalty with the host country, because it cannot exist otherwise. Since Israel, as it is currently constructed, cannot exist without a powerful America as its powerful ally, American Jews serve Israel and the Jewish people as loyal allies of their fellow Americans.

It is possible that Zionist Jews hold such a conception of themselves. Whether they keep this to themselves because they distrust their gentile neighbors or they don’t trust themselves, not speaking to it is a problem only they can solve. If even Zionist Jews remain locked into an old identity, then the only way forward is to slough off that old identity and accept present reality. Regardless, the dilemma of resurgent nationalism in the West is a Jewish dilemma, not an occidental one.

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Altitude Zero
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Altitude Zero

Whether they like it or not (and many most assuredly don’t) Jews are going to have to come to terms with the fact that the survival of the Jews as a people is tied up with the survival of the West and its distinctive peoples, and that flooding the US and Europe with people who are actually Medieval in their attitudes towards Jews is a bad, bad idea for them. Interestingly, lots of Israeli and British Jews seem to have little problem with this, but among American Jews, exceptions such as Stephen Steinlight are still something of a rarity. This… Read more »

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” This had better change, for everyone’s sake”

Why is this for my sake?
I do not see myself included in your “everybody”

Hoagie
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Hoagie

Because bringing Mohammadans into America and allowing them in our government is very, very bad for everybody no just Jews, that’s why. It is bad for your sake and mine too. One needn’t be a Jew to recognize an enemy with terminal ambitions towards oneself.

Member

Why the Straw man?

Why do you not assume that the Jew is the “terminal enemy”?

It is undeniable that they have done orders of magnitude more damage and destruction in the US than Muslims.

Hows the Frankfurt Schools “Polymorpheus Perversion” working out for you?

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Afternoon Bile…did you get grumpy black pilled today?.A bad 4th?..Yes, the Frankfurt School has for almost 100 years been rolling out Nihilism…Nihilism…Nihilism…Chaos …Destruction of Western Civilisation….and they have succeeded in a magnitude greater than Islam, in current history. BUT I have faith watching over time your written thoughts that you can juggle two+ balls at one time and not go into cognitive dissonance. Islam is in resurgence. Altitude Z and Hoagie are right also! This is the new threat in addition to the continual assault of Marxism. Now we face in sweeping Islam the two societal survival qualities Z described… Read more »

Exile
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Exile

We can fight Islam without the Tribe. We don’t need any of them here. Jews have a homeland, Muslims have many. Peace through separation. Minimizing Jewish social corrosion b/c muh Muzzies is a cope.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

It would seem that the Jews in a Western society are like having a mental disease that slowly eats away at your ability to reason and defend yourself – whereas mixing in Muslims is like catching a flesh eating bacteria that just eats away at your physical body.

Murray
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Murray

This is a common misconception. Jews don’t have any qualms about flooding their host nations with Mohammedans and other savages. They’re well aware that Muslims dislike Jews, and they accept the fact that they occasionally go boom with a certain amount of collateral damage. But all things considered, they’re far less worried about the occasional exploding Mohammedan than they are by the prospect of ethnically cohesive Western host nations generating their own political and financial elites who might threaten Jewish interests (however defined). Ethnically divided polities filled with low-IQ brown people are far easier to manipulate and control, and wealthy… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Murray is correct.
Israel (with help from our DoD and State) created ISIS.

Iraq, a secular, socialist state, used to have thousands of Christians, even Jews. They’re all dead now, and the Yazidi are still slaves of ISIS.

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Yeah that’s pretty much my take also. That the whole golden age of Islam and the like was good for the Jews because the Jews had very little intellectual competition. It’s a whole different ball game in the West

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

The fable of the Frog & the Scorpion would be the most accurate description of American Jewry

Tacitus
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Tacitus

Gentile whites are experiencing levels of self hatred previously only observed in the Jewish population. Jews, who love to talk about themselves and their neurosis, will say many things regarding it; my choice of winner is that it is an internalization of their state of affairs. When this happens in someone who lacks the knowledge and full context of Jewish history (ie: they fucked up, badly), it produces extreme guilt which manifests in ridiculous ways. We see this now with gentile whites, however it took a false history to produce this. A reconnection to authentic history is what will allow… Read more »

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My mother asked me recently why do people hate Jewish people and I answered that it was hard to keep liking someone who didn’t like you and held you in great contempt.

tullamore92
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tullamore92

“I don’t hate Jews, I’ve just never met one I liked” sums up my own experience. And no, I do not believe I’ve ever met anyone I liked and simply not recognized them as Jewish as, at least on a personal level, Jews – like homosexuals – seem compelled to self-identify within minutes of meeting someone.

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Let’s not forget vegetarians.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I disagree. I know a handful of Jews that I really like and share similar political outlooks. The problem is that they are outliers, which by definition, are not representative of their group.

I acknowledge that these outliers are in a tough position but I am not going to put their comfort above the mission of white advocacy.

Exile
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Exile

Exactly. NAxALT’s are welcome, but they’re not relevant to policy, and our interests require an apartheid policy toward Jews. Not hostility, but restriction, separation and when necessary expulsion. I welcome based Jews who support White identity, if anyone can find some.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

There’s a saying: If I dislike you, that’s my problem. If everyone dislikes you, that’s your problem. They’re something wrong with you. Can anti-semitism always be blamed on economic envy or religious bigotry?

There are such things as group characteristics, good and bad. A person may be perfectly justified in disliking, looking down upon, seeking to avoid or just not wanting members of a particular group in one’s workplace, school, neighborhood or country.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

If you tell me you were kicked out of one bar, I sympathize with you and wonder what the bouncer’s problem was.

If you tell me you were kicked out of another bar, I sympathize with you for your string of bad luck.

If you tell me you were kicked out of 109 bars, I wonder when you will engage in some self-examination.

BlueHowitzer
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BlueHowitzer

If you run into an asshole in the morning, you run into an asshole in the morning. If you run into assholes all day, you’re the asshole.

Logical
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Logical

Whites are attacked by blacks in cities all around America.

Therefore, whites did something to deserve being attacked.

smh

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It must be an interesting psychological state to belong to a race/religion that you must know nobody likes, even your own. I used to watch the “ Larry David Show” which was basically a take-off on secular Jewish life in LA by one their own. The sheer unlikeability of the characters was striking.

dad29
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so after the Second World War, they pounced on the opportunity to anathematize the concept of nationalism.

Maybe. However, Codevilla argues that the Progressives began pushing the concept of ‘war ONLY for world-peace’ rather than ‘national interest’ back in the early 1900’s with Root and Stimson. Eventually that theory captured the (D) Party as well, which resulted in Truman’s shit-canning of MacArthur.

See: https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-tipping-point/

This is not to argue that Jewish intellectualoids were NOT part of it–they clearly were, and remain so. However, this began long before WWII.

george
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george

I have nothing against Jews. However I do not want the U.S. to give them billions of dollars of direct aid and billions of dollars in military hardware every year when we are broke. I also do not relish the thought of young American kids coming home with their legs blown off or in body bags for fighting wars for Israel that Israel will not fight for itself. While I am at it I am not enamored of politicians, Jewish or neocon traitors, who agitate for such things. When I see a small group with so much power and the… Read more »

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“Go back to Israel.” They can’t. If all Jews were to hive off to Israel tomorrow, US foreign policy would gradually revert to normal. This would place Israel in the untenable position of having to negotiate in good faith with people they hate. Or wait until Muslims re-absorb that part of the world back into the Dār al-Islam. Because Jews are inherently Semitic fanatics like their Muslim cousins, they would probably launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack if threatened. And that would be the end of Israel. American Jews now have a wolf by the ears…and they are not going to… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

American Jews are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place: A Jew may or may not consider himself White, and the lefties don’t seem to, but non-Whites consider them White. If anything, uber Whites. On the other hand, a growing number of White Gentiles are redpilled to the reality of a hostile Jewish elite and its power over us. This blogpost and the ((((triple parentheses))) references are examples. Which way they jump remains to be seen.

george
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george

I have noticed that many jews today do not claim to be white. If fact they say they should not be considered white. Thye know which way the wind blows.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

They want to be on the side of the Coalition of the Ascendent. It’s also been pointed out that many Jews don’t like the term “Judeo-Christian” because of their hostility to Christianity.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

“This would place Israel in the untenable position of having to negotiate in good faith with people they hate.”

There are two sides to this. Muslims are on fire with hate for the Jews and are less capable of negotiating in good faith than any group on earth.

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Being duplicitous is normal for Semitic peoples. Their nations are very low-trust.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

The Jews seem to trust each other at least, which is more than I can say for the American honkeys. That’s why they do well and the honkeys don’t. I’m surprised the dissident right honkeys can’t learn from that.

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I guess that explains why honkey nations are so much poorer than Semitic nations.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

So why are Jews running the honkey nations, as lots of folks here seem to think? Some Semites must be more competent than others.

Member

You mean “more duplicitous than others”.

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Nope, I mean more intelligent and socially cohesive.

Member

You mean like Iraq and Syria? And throw Israel into the mix and Semites really get down to that sparkling intelligence and rock-ribbed social cohesion you’re referring to.

Member

Group trust! Bernie Madoff counted on it…

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

The Muslims would be OK with Israel as a Jewish sub-national entity of a Hashemite Kingdom. Which is, after all, what the British originally promised.

Yves Vannes
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The dilemma of resurgent nationalism in the West for the Jews or the Occidental awakening of the Jewish role in the decay and corruption of our societies (the JQ) – is a moral problem at a civilizational level because it is a problem at the most fundamental level: it is a problem of group biology and the conflict between the very different group social-evolutionary paths they’ve followed for eons. If biology is important then the laws of nature are important. Man is part of nature and thus subject to how it functions. This includes a group’s social structure and the… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Excellent. Too much, too fast- due to modern transportation in an overcrowded world.

Mobility as a weapon, a swarm attack.

Ursula
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Ursula

“Judeo-Christian”

Judeo = Low-Trust

Christian = High-Trust

Judeo + Christian = Contradictory, with Low-Trust prevailing

kleist
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kleist

I admire your gift for fantasizing the progress of nationalism in the United States. The Trump interregnum, whether it ends in 2021 or 2025, will be brief in comparison with the hell that bookends it. After that, we will be overrun. Even the civnats will be shocked when it ends.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

For what it’s worth, Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics predicts Civil War in the mid-2020s with China achieving the status as the world’s economic powerhouse in 2032. Armstrong predicts that no wonder who wins in 2020, the other side will not accept it. Vox Day also posted a number of posts regarding admissions by the Pentagon that we would lose a war with China and Russia. A major military loss could precipitate a collapse of the US government followed by a breakup. I have said to a number of people that I think that we are heading for a civil… Read more »

Dutch
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Dutch

“No (matter) who wins in 2020, the other side will not accept it”. Who taught us that? Who taught us that a historical artifact, the Betsy Ross flag, could go from zero to toxic in 48 hours? Who started this “social justice” thing, that disagreements must be laced with moral judgements, and that the moral judgement always falls in the same direction? Who declared that people one disagrees with are deplorable reprobates, and stupid idiots? To the extent that we are finally looking at standing up for ourselves, it’s about damn time. Remember the old axiom, don’t pick fights, but… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

Ha ha ha. Hope that you feel better!

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

Our side will accept whatever comes after 2020/2024. Bet on it.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

When is Putin going to get off his ass and start supporting white nationalism?

If Putin offered a Huwite ethnostate in the Pacific Northwest in exchange for giving Alaska back, who says no?

oldtradesman
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oldtradesman

Would you support a divided non-movement comprised of bloggers and fearful readers who are incapable of organizing for their own defense?

TimNY
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TimNY

All the Republican types like to joke about the crazy lineup of “socialist” democrats on the debate stage. Laugh while you can fellas. Someone just like that is going to run the country within a decade or so.

Chet Rollins
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Chet Rollins

From the Prager piece: “One should add that nationalism is evil when it celebrates race, but that is not nationalism; it is racism.” Always funny how they run screaming at the thought that a nation has any blood ties, the most fundamental building block of any community. An interesting thought experiment is to ask someone is if a nation, let’s say Korea, decided to replace all of their children with Africans. They would teach them the same civics, go through the same institutions, and share with them the same culture. In fifty years, would Korea still be a Korean nation?… Read more »

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Ben Shapiro: Twitter June 2017 (actual tweet) – “And by the way, I don’t give a good damn about the so-called “browning of America.” Color doesn’t matter. Ideology does.” Ten minutes later speaking to wife- “But thank god we don’t let any n1ggers or Arabs into Israel! Now let’s hope they will all be good little goys & girls.” Rules for thee but NOT for me. This is International Jewry Playbook 101. And then they always wonder with such mystified terror why the trains start running on time. People this obtuse and arrogant can only learn through extreme measures and… Read more »

maxsnafu
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maxsnafu

“A people who have been hated for 2,000 years is doing something wrong.” — Henry Kissinger

Compsci
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Compsci

Maxs, or perhaps they are doing something right. Tight cohesion, group solidarity, in group preference—is this not something we’d like to see when promoting White solidarity and White interest?

Apex Predator
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Apex Predator

Yes it would be great Compsci, why don’t you run down to your local chamber of commerce and put in an application for you White Defense League to mimick the ADL. Let me know how that all goes for you… are you asleep? Of COURSE we want these things, and we are barred from them because (((they))) are so afraid of muh ovens and muh railcars. Read what I wrote- more slowly this time. Rules for THEE but not for me. They can have lobbying groups, NGOs, special interests along tribal lines, not you white man. Have you been in… Read more »

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Honkeys will never get such organizations set up for themselves if they spend their time weeping into their keyboards about The Jews.

TimNY
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TimNY

Evening Tiny!

ronehjr
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ronehjr

I should have guessed that’s who it was. Only that idiot would think calling us honkey would get us rustled.

Compsci
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Compsci

Apex, you really need to read twice yourself before responding. Nothing I said denigrates/contradicts what you said. Your thoughts are solid. That Jews have achieved such—regardless of means to obtain or retain such has nothing to do with what I said. The result is quite similar to what we seek as well. If successful tactics can be learned, even from an enemy, then we should learn such.

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Felix_Krull

Always funny how they run screaming at the thought that a nation has any blood ties

Especially since their immigration services use DNA tests to determine Jewishness in case of a doubtful pedigree.

Lineman
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Lineman

@Felix
Can you imagine the outrage if the US started doing that but it’s exactly what needs to be done…

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Not really. We don’t need immigrants at all, so no need to DNA test anyone.

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Felix_Krull

Good idea: unless you’re a direct descendant of George Washington, you’re off the guest list.

Rogeru
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Rogeru

“Good idea: unless you’re a direct descendant of George Washington, you’re off the guest list.”

That’s strict. Especially considering GW had no biological descendants since he was sterile!

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

LOL wow, number of authentic Americans: ZERO.

Maybe this is taking it a little too far??

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You have to start somewhere. We know how exceptions multiply!

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Not reading or listening to Praeger, thanks. In Long Island when AOC was doing her photoshoot, and then in the Imperial Capitol.

Both times, 5 radio shows, all within 10 minutes of listening, brought up The Bad Man and You Know What Happens When.

This new religion, based on the delusional fantasies of psychotics, is killing us.

Compsci
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Compsci

Alzaebo, Prager is fine. Better than most. He is simply not all the way there, to wit, an acknowledgement of racial consciousness/differences—even existence of such. But his moral outlook is pretty good and he’s not afraid of ruffling Leftist feathers. He can be found repeatedly lamenting wrt to liberal, Leftist Jews and their vote against self interest (as he sees it) wrt many issues we discuss here. But he is a Zionist, as they all are.

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3g4me

Compsci – please re-read your comment. Prager is not fine; he’s a gatekeeper just like Shapiro, but in a different manner, more palatable to older folks. Yes, he’s technically against the excesses of the left and has said some good things about the nature of feminism, but he filters everything through his Jewish education and faith, both of which he boasts of. He is not merely a Zionist, he is an American in name only. And, while I haven’t read anything of his in many years, what Chet Rollins quotes (“One should add that nationalism is evil when it celebrates… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

3g4me. Gatekeeper? That moniker comes up many times here—seems such is always used to belittle someone who does not believe as you believe, but is successfully promoting his (honest) beliefs to an audience the size of which you could not hope to obtain with your beliefs and promotional efforts.

Don’t denigrate success, learn from it and step up your game. That at least could possibly lead to inroads with the “normies”, whereas denigration/name calling leads nowhere.

ronehjr
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ronehjr

1. Prager preaches the deception of judeo-christianity, which has facilitated the acceptance of jewish rule in goyish nations. 2. Name calling has helped get leftists in complete control of the west. They figured out the correct names to call us while we were too busy hiding behind the ‘not stooping to their level’ excuse.

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There is a deeper divide or problem – that Jewish means both race and religion. So Christian Zionists support a secular socialist state where Tel Aviv is the most LGBTQ friendly city in the world. Somehow the unbelieving secular and socialist Jews are still fully Jewish while burning the Torah, blaspheming, and doing abominations.. There are Jews that do believe in the Torah, but many of them don’t care for Israel. E Michael Jones uses the greek word Logos, which means the word, but also order and reason. But the only thing which allows Israel to get away with anexxing… Read more »

dad29
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About 5 years ago I subscribed to E Michael Jones’ “Culture Wars” magazine. He defended (and praised) the Mullahs extensively, having been given a trip to Iran. Mike can yap about “logos” all he wants, but he cannot possibly square than with his apparent love for Shi’a Mohammedanism.

Federalist
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Federalist

As far as the Jews being both a race and a religion, I think that is a reason that a lot of normies (in America, at least) don’t get how there could be any issue with Jews. Often people see it as just another religion. People are less religious than they used to be and even the religious are for freedom of religion. For instance, a committed Catholic isn’t going to have any issue with Protestants from whatever denomination being involved in public life. If people have an objection to any sort of religion, it is opposition to Muslims due… Read more »

james wilson
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As Chesterton noted, more and less, the loss of religion does not make people unbelievers, it leaves them in a state of believing anything. There exist more dogma among the new unbelievers than in the heyday of any other religion.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The Christians have a joke- “they are still waiting for the Messiah to come… while we are waiting for Him to come back!”

Ah ha ha ha.
Yet the Christians have never, not once, ever asked-

What is the true nature of this other messiah, this unnameable thing they have kept alive all these centuries?
That has promised them dominion without end, over this realm alone?

What is it they wish to bring into the world? What is Its true nature?

Murray
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Murray

This is where Zman parts ways with those who he deems the “antisemites” on the Dissident Right: he hopes that Jews will realize their best interests lie in the continued survival of strong Western nations and thereby renounce their double dealing and subversive ways. And I agree that this would be a desirable outcome. But (and this is an honest question) is there any evidence from the long history of Jewish-Gentile interaction that this is likely, or even possible? Have Jews managed any sustained coexistence among Gentiles in which they haven’t sought to influence the ruling classes to their own… Read more »

Vegetius
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Vegetius

Depends what you mean by Gentile.

They seem to have a better track record in Islamic states than in the Christian states of Europe. A lot of different explanations have been advanced for why this is the case.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Islam is not a twisted mutation of Christianity, as some (Goldman) has tentatively claimed.

It is a return to the true, original messianic faith of Abraham- that the God will return and reward only when each slice of this world is paid for with blood, the blood of sacrificial animals.

Those animals are not the sons of Adam- Adam’s descendant, Abraham, had two sons, and they are brothers.

dad29
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Goldman wasn’t the first; that was Belloc, who stated that Islam is one of the seven great heresies. And it is; Islam’s Allah is not the Christian, nor Jewish, God.

james wilson
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Paul Johnson makes the case in History of the Jews that Islam is but one more mutant Hebrew religion born in the desert, one that stuck. Perhaps it is Judaism for stupid people.

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

Stephan Molyneux is (or was, before he discovered cuckbucks) big on talking about how middle Eastern societies destroyed their mean IQ via cousin marriage. “Judaism for Stupids” makes a degree of logical sense. There were definitely significant Jewish populations in Mecca and Medina during Muhammad’s time.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

To their great credit, the normal men of goodwill amongst them have been fighting the unseen influence from the beginning.

They have adapted to and tried to accomodate to a possessed minority in their own population.

In their History, the good have left many illustrations of that unseen Hand, a secret guide on what to expect from a malevolent influence they could not see nor understand, nor even speak of openly.

Dutch
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Dutch

There is a difference in recent decades, and that is that Jews do have their own nation now, and are free to move there. The whole idea that they need to live here, yet not adopt their host country as their own, is now a false one, and they can now be called on it. What some of the individuals are really after is the opportunity to take advantage of other people in other places, without the responsibility for it (they aren’t the only ones, there are many other representatives loyal to their own alien cultures here, not residing in… Read more »

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

So many predators, only one pasture.

Our specific complaint, really, is who opened the gates?

If only that high verbal intelligence, ferocious focus, and internal cohesion were devoted to making a better world wherever they landed. Such a waste.

Carson Napier
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Carson Napier

I think people in general thirst for identity. I notice that persons connected with Jews by marriage—even in the extended family—fervently take up Jewish attitudes on politics and Zionism. The thrill of belonging to a special tribe, with secret missions and secret identities, and special exceptionalisms over one’s peers is very compelling to the human psyche at some level. It’s the reason all these people keep finding evidence of Jewish ancestry in their family trees. Jewish identity gives vent to our innate tribalistic inclinations without the shame and guilt that comes with white identity. We are sectarian, tribalistic animals by… Read more »

Issac
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Issac

The issue, bluntly, is that the diaspora has no serious challengers. Nationalism is not being considered by the diaspora. It is being re-branded as diaspora neoliberalism. There will be no further discussion of the subject. Nobody can press the issue. The remnant western gentile elite are simply impotent or subservient. A people without an elite are serfs.

Drake
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I don’t think the answers to the dilemma will be universal among members of the tribe. I had a roommate in the Marines who happened to be Jewish. He sure identified far more strongly as an American Marine than a Jew. He just went to a different religious service. The New York conservative Jews I see in droves whenever I travel out of Newark always see themselves as guests and not Americans. They’ll pick up and leave if things get unpleasant – I sat next to one on a plane who had just left Venezuela. Would have guessed he was… Read more »

One of many Georges
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One of many Georges

This post just seems like concern trolling for the Jews. Trust me, they ain’t gonna change.

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“The core of Western antisemitism in the West is the claim that Jews are not us.”

“The core of Western antisemitism in the West is the claim by the Jews that they are not us, unless it’s convenient”

There, fixed that for you.

As to your third to final paragraph.

Why should we allow them to determine their role in our lands ?

Bueller? Bueller?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Us or them. I must vote for us.

Vegetius
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Vegetius

I wonder if you shouldn’t have lit this firecracker yesterday:

>American Jews serve Israel and the Jewish people as loyal allies of their fellow Americans

If you change “as” to “by pretending to be” this sentence makes more sense. Otherwise: Jew loyalty in one hand, their subversive shit in another…

“National Conservatism” must be strangled in the cradle and Shapiro delenda est.

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For all the kvetching about gas chambers and nationalism, it was the white world who saved their asses at great financial and blood expense. WHY are there holocaust museums all over America? We had literally nothing to do with it. It wasn’t our people being killed and we weren’t the ones doing the killing. For a group who (supposedly) prides itself on anti-racism, it is the racial connection we have to Germans that makes us so suspicious to them that they feel the need to erect holocaust museums all over our country. Even fascist Italy did nothing to the Jews.… Read more »

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Here’s an artical by Patrick J. Buchanan in The American Conservative entitled ” Is America Still a Nation?” It’s dated July 4 2017. I wish I had found it yesterday but hey, better late than never. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/is-america-still-a-nation/ Having lots of rich influental Jews around is a bad idea no doubt. But we’re all still thinking in 20th century ways. The damage is done. We are on the other side of the tipping point and the future is all we can hope for. Every single White person in America trying to lay the spiritual foundation for a new White world is… Read more »

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His question answers itself. We are not a nation, we are a multi-ethnic empire. The sooner it collapses the better. The collapse will be horrible, but likely will not end in our annihilation which is the most likely outcome if the collapse doesn’t come.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

I was surprised to find that 80% of diaspora come from 1880s Russia. That must be the cossack’s hooves heard by the communist party in 1918 Germany.

Apparently, the forking into a new branch has already occurred.

Blood and soil of Jerusalem- try getting them to go back!

(Cripes, look what they did when somebody tried to transit them back to the Pale…)

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

PS- I must say, this is an excellent discourse on the relationship of any minority group, and a fair consideration of the sneakyf*ckers themselves.

Ever since the sons of heaven, Hebiru survivors of wasted Mesopotamia, beheld the daughters of the earth, the civilized port cities of the Aryan Philistines, little David has been trying to overcome giant Goliath. Genetics is memory, and history.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

More like this, please. A terrific comment yesterday noted that America was becoming a new blend of Europeans, an ummah that had escaped our intratribal wars, that nearly lifted the homelands up and out along with us.

Perhaps we could show the Old World peoples- including people with white skin who are not of European origin- a way away from the backstabbing and murder.

Range Front Fault
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Range Front Fault

Why would they go back, they’ve never been to the motherland. Modern Prager, conservative not Orthodox Jew, was born in Brooklyn and has been to the motherland. He’s not moving there. Most of my Trots parents’ friends were Russian Jews whose parents fled Russia. At the time there was no motherland for them to idealize or return to. 80% Secular Jews.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

Z describes the problem of Jewish disloyalty and then the outcome that he hopes for, which is that American Jews realize that they can “serve Israel and the Jewish people as loyal allies of their fellow Americans.”

Let that sink in.

Z’s best case outcome is that American Jews continue to value the Jewish people over the USA, but that they be more loyal to their Golem host country because it serves their interests.

If this is the best possible outcome then separation seems not just eminently reasonable but absolutely necessary.

Murray
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Murray

Beautifully put. I sincerely admire Zman’s moderate tone on this and other questions, and while I suspect that he has already consigned me to the ranks of his wearisome “antisemitic” commenters, I actually share this aspect of his temperament. But what he’s proposing here appears to have no historical analogue in European-heritage nations, and it’s entirely reasonable to ask, first, exactly how this Great Jewish Awakening would come about, and second, what gives us any warrant to believe that this newfound sensibility would be any more durable than any other Jewish accommodation? Because in the end, as you point out,… Read more »

james wilson
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There is another wave of Jews coming into the equation. The secular American Jews are not much reproducing, or they are mixing. The Orthodox and Hassid are having large families. It is assumed that since these are not liberal secular Jews and said to be aligned with traditional American interests that the problems created by secular intellectual Jews and the force they represent will abate, but I suspect this new hatchery will have other ideas if only because there is no history to the contrary.

3g4me
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3g4me

LineInTheSand:% “Z’s best case outcome is that American Jews continue to value the Jewish people over the USA, but that they be more loyal to their Golem host country because it serves their interests.” Brilliant comment. FWIW, this is precisely what I accused Zman’s “conservative” Jewish commenter with, and he countered that I was letting the perfect be the enemy of the good when he supposedly agreed with me 90%. Well, if that 10% difference is viewing Western civilization and people as useful for his own, as opposed to loving it because it is one’s own and/or because it is… Read more »

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TomA
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TomA

It will be interesting to see how the Israelis handle their issue with indigenous Palestinians, who have a birth rate that significantly exceeds the Jewish population. What will they do when they become the minority in their own ethnostate?

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The’ve effectively aborted the Christian West,

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

Abortion is certainly shameful, as is promiscuity.

We must recall, however, that whites are of reduced fertility because we often see it as shameful to have a child that we cannot afford, or because we are concerned for the environment. There also might be some pollutants affecting fertility.

Whites do normally have more children than East Asians.

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

Israel has a TFR of 3.1 for Jews. That is higher than any other OECD nation. In 2000, 67% of births were Jewish, last year 74% of births were Jewish.

They’d run into some headaches if the West Bank was annexed, but they don’t become a nominal minority unless Gaza is also annexed. I suspect any annexation deal would see a large amount of Arabs paid off to go away.

De Beers Diamonds
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De Beers Diamonds

The issue has more to due with the competing rates of Haredi vs seculars. Seculars are above replacement, IIRC, but the Haredi TFR is over 5. The Haredi and Arabs aren’t drafted, placing a burden on the proportionally shrinking seculars. That said, Jewish fertility is trending up in Israel, while Arab fertility is trending down. The numbers have changed a lot since the start of the century.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

Unlike the Amish, who also have a high birthrate, the Haredi typically collect welfare because the men spend their lives in yeshiva. That’s also true in NY and NJ.

Self-reliance is a goyim virtue.

3g4me
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3g4me

Ris _Eruwaedhiel: Despite their supposedly beloved kibbutzes, Jews do not . . . have not ever . . . farmed anywhere in the world, to my knowledge. They argue this is because they were prohibited from owning land – but that’s just it – they wanted to be property-owning landed gentry, not tenant farmers like the Christians they despised as cattle. No one stopped them from growing food or becoming settlers when America offered essentially free land out west – even those relatively few Jews who left the east coast cities became peddlers and merchants to the farming settlers –… Read more »

Ursula
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Ursula

Manual labor is for goyim. Jews prefer to manage business and money. They make miserable managers of people.

george
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george

Some very smart people have postulated that one reason Israel is desperate to start a war with Iran (with us fighting it of course) is that they know that will be a much bigger shindig than Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria combined.

During the fog of war they can take care of their Palestinian problem once and for all. So the theorists say.

Valley of the Daleks
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I could bring myself to support Israel as the Jewish homeland, if the Jews would actually all go and live there, but they refuse to do so. How can anyone see it as their homeland, when they don’t see it that way themselves? To American Jews, Israel is simply an option, a Plan B, a bolt-hole, a summer house.

Frankly what Israel has turned out to be, is the nuclear-armed gangster headquarters of an international crime syndicate.

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A famous statesman of the 20th century described the Jewish state as a place “where they can safely work out their criminal schemes.”

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

This is as good an article as any to post this question. Can anyone recommend an accurate edition of the Talmud translated into English?

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Only marginally on topic, but I fell for it again. Remember Mengele, the Angel of Death? Inhuman experiments, injecting blue dye in the eyes, pulling teeth for fun, transplanting random organs from one subject to another? Turns out his ‘victims’ wanted in on the gravy train, and formed a fundraising group called “CANDLES”. None had any scars or evidence of surgery. Mengele, having been wounded in the war, was reassigned to Auschwitz as a psychologist. He observed groups of twins and a family of dwarves, and took notes. That’s it, as he had no medical training. How, how, how did… Read more »

Carson Napier
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Carson Napier

It all sounds so ludicrous in retrospect. Such obvious propaganda. A people renowned for their enlightenment(if a bit warlike) degenerate into barbaric sadists overnight.

Dutch
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Dutch

Carson, some of them were sadists, and they rose to the top in an authoritarian system. Look at the Dem candidates today, and you get the same vibe.

Not to counter your point, which is a good one, but be very skeptical about those who say “it can’t happen here”. The bonfire is prepared, and it is waiting for the match to light it off.

Carson Napier
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Carson Napier

Ooo, good point, but it will never be Germans we have to worry about

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We never had to worry about Germans. War with them was always somebody else’s agenda.

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

Like the tales of Jewish fat turned into soap or Jewish skin turned into lampshades. What else are they lying about?

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

The Roller Coaster of Death is my personal favorite, followed closely by the electric floors

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Felix_Krull

The fountains of blood spurting from the ground is a nice one too. Used to be posted on the Yad Vashem homepage as one of five central eyewitness testimonies.

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Felix_Krull

Mwhuahahaha! Holocaust Huckster Dies in Auschwitz!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/holocaust-survivor-dies-auschwitz-eva-kor-a8991776.html

You’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

The Holocoaster!

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Felix_Krull

It all sounds so ludicrous in retrospect. Just so. Never mind the lamp shades, but we’re supposed to believe that in three years, they disappeared six million people plus six million lesser victims, making twelve million people? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we get is frau Goldberg suddenly remembering 40 years later how Mengele raped her six million times. Auschwitz is a nuclear landmine waiting to blow up. In twenty minutes, you can explain anyone with a high school understanding of chemistry (and, critically, the will to listen) why the gas chamber in Auschwitz is a hoax. They… Read more »

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

I’m interested, ever since learning about the Frankfurt School, the Weimar Republic, and reading Pat Buchanan’s book about WWII. Any sources handy for that explanation?

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Felix_Krull

The short version is that there were made two forensic examinations of what’s purported to be the remains of the big gas chamber in Auschwitz. One by a gentleman named Fred Leuchter, an American expert on gas chambers, and another by a German chemist named Germar Rudolph. http://germarrudolf.com/en/persecution-2/germars-persecution/auschwitz-forensics/ They measured the cyanide content of the purported gas chamber remains and did the same with the walls of what’s called “the small gas chamber” – a building everyone agree was used for fumigating furniture and clothes with Zyklon B. They then compared the results… ****SPOILER ALERT!!!**** The fumigation chamber was saturated… Read more »

Ris_Eruwaehdiel
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Ris_Eruwaehdiel

In parts of Europe and Canada questioning the official narrative could get you jail time. Ask David Irving.

Holocaustianity is a religion of sorts.

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Felix_Krull

Not only that, in Germany, a lawyer can go to jail if he argues the material point when defending a Holocaust revisionist, because then the lawyer is himself Denying the Holocaust.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
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Ris_Eruwaedhiel

The logical question is: What are they afraid of?

The Last Stand
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The Last Stand

Damn, what other indisputable fact needs to have debate quashed by force of law?

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

I don’t know how many of you are familiar with this website, it’s called “Judeofascism.com”. But if you hate the jews this will definitely be right up your alley. http://www.judeofascism.com/2010/10/why-jews-hate-non-jews-and-how-they.html

3g4me
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3g4me

Race realism – the Jews’ pet project was the falsehood that there are no races or legitimate differences among people, because then they could claim to be just like everyone else and magic”equality.”

Compsci
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Compsci

Carson, if one simply disbelieves the evidence for the holocaust, then there is no sense in arguing whether or not Germans could descend into such barbarity—because it didn’t happen. However, if you read any of the tomes of writing surrounding German atrocities, you find many citations for such barbarity by rather ordinary German citizens, not necessarily fanatical NAZI’s. Citation in point, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners”. It created quite a stir a decade or so ago in Germany. It contained the field reports from the SS on their use of Home Guard (old/young Germans) who were used to shoot prisoners toward the… Read more »

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Felix_Krull

if one simply disbelieves the evidence for the holocaust, . What evidence? “Holocaust”, doesn’t mean any random massacre perpetrated by the SS, it’s very specifically the killing of 1) six million Jews by means of 2) gassing, according to 3) a centrally organized plan that was 4) endorsed by Uncle Adolf himself. Those are the four main points of contention with Holocaust revisionists. Disbelieving any of those four points makes you liable for criminal prosecution in several European countries. And Daniel Goldhagen is a nose of the most repellent description. Hitler’s Willing Executioners is broadly discredited as a dissembling, hateful… Read more »

Compsci
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Compsci

Felix, I’m not going to engage in a holocaust debate with you. Like wrestling with a pig—it only gets you dirty and the pig enjoys it.

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Felix_Krull

I’m not going to engage in a holocaust debate with you.

If you don’t want to debate the Holocaust, I suggest you don’t post comments on the subject in a public forum.

Compsci
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Compsci

Alvaebo, as far as I can tell, Mengele was a Physician (Wikipedia) with some bonafides in genetics and the racial nonsense spewed by NAZIs of the day. Prior to WWII an MD degree was not the thing it is today. Mengele was good enough to initially work in the Wehrmacht field hospitals until reassignment to Auschwitz in ‘43. Anyway, he was absolutely crazy and perhaps incompetent given the record of his experimental efforts. A basic senior in HS with biology courses would know better that to attempt his procedures.

Dutch
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Dutch

Almost no one alive today was involved in all of that death camp stuff, yet talk of it goes on, and on, and on. Somehow blame and accusation has run out into western culture generally, in some amorphous, generalized fashion. The way it is going, historians of the future will sum up the twentieth century as ”six million”, ignoring everything else. A culture at war with itself, as most human cultures have been, most of the time, creates a lot of misery and casualties. The sad thing is that the six million were not actually exceptional. This pattern has been… Read more »

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

Re: Death Camps Riddle me this. Why 1-tattoo hapless captives scheduled for imminent execution 2-feed, clothe and house valueless women and children so they remain alive until after the war ends 3-utilize scarce fuel to incinerate millions of human bodies while being closed in on two sides by mortal enemies Following services at various synagogues and sporting my fancy kippah to blend in with Jewish hosts, I have remained with “the scrum” of major donors who linger with the rabbi and listen to the special pep talk. The rabbi invariably uses parable to encourage attendees to stick together against the… Read more »

MemeWarVet
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MemeWarVet

There sure are a lot of “survivors” still around 75 years after the fact, aren’t there?

3g4me
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3g4me

They’ve termed any Jew alive from 1933 or so to 1945 anywhere but in the US, Canada, or Australia to be a Holocaust survivor – look it up. Plus now they’re claiming there are observable differences in brain chemistry in the children and grandchildren of “survivors.” It will never, ever end.

Compsci
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Compsci

Victimology, is symptomatic of a general pathology in today’s society. Holocaust victimology should have given us a forewarning of the problem of such identification. As Dutch has pointed out, it never ends—long after the victims and the perpetrators are long dead, the grifters will continue to promote such as long as it pays dividends. Trick is to ignore it.

peterdarinklein
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During research for a documentary on Mengele I noticed a proliferation of outrageous claims, not just of Mengele but of the climate in which the claimants placed him. I decided to keep a separate list of only supportable evidence, not just supported by the testimony of dubious characters. My intent was to still give credence to some of the more outlandish tales and of course to those things we “knew” were true because they had been reported so often. But after completing my research I decided it would be criminal to ignore my ultimate finding. Mengele was a decent man… Read more »

slumlord
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slumlord

I think you’ve outlined the Jewish dilemma quite well but I think it highlights a bigger problem that no one talks about it this corner of the universe, namely the atheist dilemma. The Jewish dilemma is also the atheist dilemma, namely how do you claim a heritage in a culture whose foundational principles undercut your own identity. Neoconservatism attempted to erase the history of Christianity from the West, but atheo-conservatism is trying to do exactly the same thing. While it’s not secret that the Jewish community pushes the liberal agenda strongly, it’s also true that a large number of gentiles… Read more »

Ursula
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Ursula

Western Christians have been helped along since 1947 in preferring ‘others’ to their own kind, and it’s been very effective:
“Modify the Standards of the In-group”
On Jews and Mass Communications
http://www.unz.com/article/modify-the-standards-of-the-in-group/

slumlord
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slumlord

On a side issue, the other thing that has struck me as peculiar is that Jewish hyperacheivement has only been possible in a society built by Christians. Pull down that foundation and you pull down Jewish hyperacheivement.

Alzaebo
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Alzaebo

Come to think of it, the Romans had many religions under their roof. Even dread Cybele was allowed. Yet one small cult had its leader crucified, then his apostles hunted down in grusome spectacles years later. It wasn’t Jews they were throwing to lions or lighting up as human torches, just for being Jewish. Yet even so, the Romans reversed course, suddenly, destroying the very nation of His opponents, and began to embrace these heretical pacifists. Why the hideous persecution in the first place? Why the reversal? Almost as if someone with high ties were telling stories, accusing that small… Read more »

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We have 2000 plus years of case studies to demonstrate that jews will not become loyal to the heritage people of the united states. They will always seek power over their host and will collaborate with enemies to undermine their host if given the opportunity to do so. Besides being a source of group cohesion and a great way to extort money and silence critics, the myth of the holocaust is used to keep jews in a state of panic and get them to view any white gentile as a potential immediate threat. Lenin reportedly said that Jews make good… Read more »

Glenfilthie
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Glenfilthie

Joos are loyal to God before country or anyone else – or at least the devout ones are. They are more loyal to Him than they are even to each other. I have no problem with this, as a Christian I am too. So go the muzzies – but those a-holes are a different can of worms. I like the fact that Israelis kill muzzies on a regular basis and wish them well with that in the future. We have precious few allies in that corner of the world. The American and European Jewry have a problem with radical liberalism.… Read more »

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

Most North American “Joos” are not devout, except for the holocaustianity religion, and they do not even believe there is a G_d. They are more loyal to each other and reject Him.

As for Muzzies, they never would have visited the US, let alone migrated here, but for Joos killing the sh!te out of them directly and by proxy.

You need to stop drinking the holy water.

Valley of the Daleks
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I am reminded of a rather choice exchange between diplomats, forget the names though…

ISRAELI AMBASSADOR: Israel is America’s only friend in the Middle East.

AMERICAN DIPLOMAT: Prior to Israel, America had no enemies in the Middle East.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Fair enough. But being friends w islamic nutjobs is nothing to be proud of.

Ursula
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Ursula

It’s true. Zionism has the U.S. cultivating ties with the worst kinds of muslims — Sunni Wahhabist extremists. But the creators of Wahhabism? It’s said the Brits and Jews (Weizmann, who would go on to become Israel’s first President) put their heads together about 100 years ago to create Wahhabism and Saudi Arabia. All creations to extort power and political ends.

ronehjr
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ronehjr

Western Jews invented the narrative that White people are uniquely guilty of historical crimes against other races. They declared themselves my enemy, I would be a fool to not acknowledge this.

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

Comparing the last two blog posts, one is essentially about the essence of America, the other about the JQ. This post already has more comments and I m sure it ll reach 200 before it peters out. That’s not good, that’s not healthy, that the JQ gets more attention than what kind of nation America is and is becoming.

There’s something about letting hatred taking over, playing defense, conceding defeat through bitterness over that distribution of attention according to my immediate intuition. This despite my view that the JQ should not be taboo.

DraveckysHumerus
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DraveckysHumerus

Sorry to break the news, pal, but America ceased behaving as a coherent nation when the Cold War ended and there was no resultant peer. And this is not independent of the JQ, it is causal. Why in nearly every territory that has hosted “Joos” has a there been a perceived need to address the JQ? You have to be intoxicated, otherwise self-absorbed or an idiot not to acknowledge dancing around the 500 gazillion ton elephant in the room. Bueller? No slice of America can be restored until the Joos are expelled from therein and banished forever thence. There is… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
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Moran ya Simba

I’m undecided about the JQ, my impression is the evidence suggests there is something to look at. But, I do not find the ‘omnipotent universal explanation’ some seem to read into the JQ, to be credible.

LineInTheSand
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LineInTheSand

I hope you keep posting your thoughts.

Rod1963
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Rod1963

JQ is certainly important but so is white betrayal of our country – namely in the business community with it’s insatiable desire for cheap labor which led to importing millions and exporting jobs and industry to Asia and leaving the U.S. emaciated and crippled economically. Really when will the alt-right get it through it’s thick skulls that corporate America views the people of America as little more than serfs to be exploited and f**ked over. Look how big box stores decimated small town America. I saw it first hand where I live. We didn’t benefit. People just got part time… Read more »

John Smith
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Correct. Have a care, Z. The antisemites swarming out of the woodwork here are the same ones that sunk idiots like Vox Day and Richard Spencer. For them there is no question, and no doubt about the JQ. More than a few are hateful nutters.

You’ve always portrayed yourself as undecided about the JQ. That would imply that you may see some good in Jews, somewhere. If that is true – would you care to elaborate on the positive potential of Jews, if any.

Exile
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Exile

Belated counter-Semitic counterpoint. Semitic identities are not compatible with our tribes, as both Muslims and Jews continue to demonstrate. The viral concept of “Judeo-Christianity” alone has served to grossly (and I fear fatally) debase, distort and deligitimize Christian spirituality. Kevin MacDonald and others have thoroughly documented why and how Jews parasitize and fragment host populations in the manner of high-functioning gypsies. Heartiste, peace be upon him, coined the phrases “Ashkepath” and “worrier-warriors” to describe the unique Jewish genetic blend of neuroticism and aggression. In enneagram parlance, Jews as a race are counter-phobic Sixes. To the extent Jews practice Jewish identity,… Read more »

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Exile: “In enneagram parlance.” Never heard of enneagram typology till your comment. Just checked it out on Wiki. Seems interesting. Looking forward to reading about it. If you know of a good website on it or book, do let me know. Thanks.

Spud Boy
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Spud Boy

thezman shoots in his own fox hole again. The problems with America are not the fault of people like Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro.

james wilson
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Thanks for proof the strategy of Prager and Shapiro is effective.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Good morning everybody. It’s Saturday July 6th 2019 and all those pesky Hebes are still here. So let’s skip all that crap for a bit and look on the bright side. The last 10 years has Red-Pilled the hell out of many millions of White people all over the west. Things are changing and the future our enemies had planned for us is not going to be everything they had hoped for. So cheer up!

Chad Bigly
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Chad Bigly

Sure they are, you’re just not paying attention.

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Tis so tis not tis so tis not. Seriously Mr. Bigly, Ya got ta “Turn That Frown Upside Down.” Here, this should help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S0ceRGoTkk

Member

This strikes me as similar to Belloc’s little book, _The Jews_, written about a hundred years ago and making some of the same points: mostly, that Jews are playing a dangerous game and ought to stop it for their own good or else something really awful will happen, possibly in eastern Europe. There’s a vignette in St. Gregory of Tours where one of the Frankish kings, Guntram or somebody, tried mightily to convince a Jewish friend to convert to the Church, to become one of us. No doubt, for exactly the same reason. That didn’t work, either. I think, as… Read more »

Calsdad
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Calsdad

SS uniforms were usually black or grey BTW.

And some German Nazi era uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss.

But don’t bring that up – or you’ll get kicked out of the club:

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/hugo-boss-and-hitler-make-headlines-1.5332458

Official Bologna Tester
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Official Bologna Tester

Nazi cosplay is best left to the japanese. Here’s an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04LXVka66jI Personally, I was never big on uniforms. What really makes the heathen left rage is to ridicule and desecrate their own most cherished symbols. Burn the Rainbow flag and put the vid on Youtube and just watch there heads explode.

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Take heart jew haters! Here’s a story in the American Thinker that shows quite conclusively that the (((tribe))) is not a monolithic one brained beast after all. They are in fact far less unified or cohesive than many people believe. And one part of the artical will be music to your ears. Seems the girl jews are squeezing out fewer babies than the general feperson population. You see, even in the Apocalypse you can find a silver lining. Huzzah! https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/07/america_and_judaism_suffering_from_the_same_maladies.html

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I want what Israel has got, we want what Israelis have.
Full stop.

There does seem to be a problem with confusing the West Bank of the Jordan with the West banks of the Hudson and the Potomac. I daresay the west bank of the Elbe, Danube, Tiber, Rhone, Meuse, Rhine etc as well. But its not our problem.

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Mr. VXXC said: ” I want what Israel has got, we want what Israelis have. Full stop.” I see. Well, if by that you mean you and your associates would like to build an ethno-state of your very own, I certainly wish you luck. However, any other meanings I could derive from your post would be beyond my area of expertise.

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vxxc

“There does seem to be a problem with confusing the West Bank of the Jordan with the West banks of the Hudson and the Potomac. I daresay the west bank of the Elbe, Danube, Tiber, Rhone, Meuse, Rhine etc as well. But its not our problem.”

The West Bank of the Hudson and the west bank of the Potomac refer to America West of NYC and DC respectively, the other rivers are in Europe.

I mean: They confuse America and Europe with their Helots on the west bank of the Jordan- the Arabs.

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Further; I want what Israels got: we are in charge and dominant in our own country. Rights can be common and shared: POWER cannot. That was the mistake we made. We went from stop shitting on blacks (good) to sharing power with others…. that was the mistake.

Rights you can share.
Power you cannot.

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