The Mule’s Work

When Trump miraculously won the election in 2016, the smarter observers saw that he was not going to be a reform agent, but a chaos agent. Through the ballot, the public had injected a foreign body into the political system. How the system would react to that foreign body was unknown, but after three plus years the results of the experiment are coming into focus. What we are getting is chaos. Everything about the old order is suddenly in question, as everything about it is breaking down.

The most obvious example of the chaos is the old political order. For almost a generation, national politics was Red Team versus Blue Team. Both sides agreed on most everything as they were financed by the same people. Red Team wanted to be more naked in its slobbering than Blue Team over the men behind the curtain, while Blue Team wanted to be more hysterical than Red Team. Otherwise, no matter which way the people voted, the policies never changed.

Three plus years of Trump and we have prominent national politicians calling for a moratorium on immigration. Trump just claimed he signed an executive order temporarily halting all immigration. Whether or not this is true is entirely unknown, as Trump says all sorts of things that mean nothing. That’s not the point. What matters is that things that were forbidden just a few years ago are now being said in public by people who care very deeply about the taboos of modern society.

Of course, the chaos that will soon matter most to people is the chaos in the economy, which is beginning to get real and real fast. When oil futures hit levels never seen in our lifetime, we are in a different world than existed a few years ago. The nonsense about oil trading below zero is just news hype, but there is no avoiding the fact that the world is suddenly awash in BTU’s. What’s just as significant about this event is that according to the experts, it was not supposed to happen.

That’s the thing to keep in mind about the chaos that is raging all around us. The emerging liberal democratic order promised stability and predictability. Instead of booms and bust in the economy, it was supposed to be gentle slopes up and down as the central bankers steered the ship. Oil markets would no longer be the victim of forces beyond the control of suppliers. Instead, prices would be steady as producers coordinated with world government to temper supply.

What happens in a world suddenly awash in BTU’s? No one knows. Similarly, no one knows what happens when world government tries to turn the economy back on after they have had enough of the pandemic. In fact, no one knows if they will actually try to do it voluntarily. Local officials have gotten the whiff of authoritarianism in their nostrils and they like it. They may find out they like suppressing the minor protests that have been flaring up the past week. We are in uncharted territory.

What we are seeing is the work of The Mule. In the Asimov novels. The Mule is a special character, so special in fact that he is assumed to not exist. In fact, according to the known rules of the universe, he cannot exist. Because he does exist, thus invalidating the rules of the universe, he is the ultimate destroyer of worlds. His ability “is to reach into the minds of others and “adjust” their emotions, individually or en masse, using this capability to conscript individuals to his cause.”

This is Trump. In the primary, he won mostly by causing the Republican Party to go insane and destroy itself. In the general, the media went nuts and convinced the Democrats they had nothing to fear. In Washington, the establishment has taken every opportunity to discredit itself in a mad quest to deny the reality of Trump. In this pandemic, the masters of the universe seem to be determined to do everything they can to invalidate themselves and legitimize their enemies.

The madness of self-invalidation is probably just starting. Due to the crack down on economic activity, things like advertising buys have halted. So much of the internet economy, particularly the media, depends on the belief that money spent on ads and marketing is money well-spent. It was never true, but the new reality will suddenly bring that into focus. In whatever comes next, spending lavishly on ads and marketing data harvested by social media companies will be minimized.

To date, no one has figured out how to make a large-scale media enterprise work on subscriptions alone. Small-scale operations can make it work for the same reason small business can make it work. They have low overheads and focus only on providing the customer with what they seek. Mass media is mass propaganda, financed by corporate ad dollars. In other words, it is not just the political establishment finding itself in a new chaotic world of uncertainty. Its media arm is there as well.

Obviously, the biggest bit of chaos that the people in charge have yet to confront is the world after the crackdown is lifted. We have about 30% unemployment at the moment and the signs of increased economic slowdown. People forget that in the early weeks of the crack down, there was a rush of economic activity. That has subsided and firms are now starting to hear crickets. The curve benders fear a second virus wave, but wait until they get a look at the second layoff wave.

At the various lemon parties, the sobbing and moaning about Trump was understandable, as they never understood what Trump meant. Their politics are immature and based solely on what is presented to them in the media. Like children, they giggle when happy and cry when sad. Similarly, the “Orange Man Bad!” loons could never get past their hurt feelings to grasp the significance of Trump. As the chaos rages, these two camps now cheer like toddlers at someone shaking keys.

For the simple minded, the rising chaos brings to mind their preferred result, which they imagine is right around the corner. In reality, we are just entering the interregnum described by Guillaume Faye, in which the West lurches from crisis to crisis as it tries to reconcile the incoherence and contradictions of liberal democracy. In other words, Trump is not just the end of the old order, but the starting point for a period of chaos, as the world tries to create a new “logic of the universe.”


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T. Morris
T. Morris
4 years ago

Great article! Most salient line? There are several, but this one pretty well sums it up:

The curve benders fear a second virus wave, but wait until they get a look at the second layoff wave.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  T. Morris
4 years ago

The curve bender cultists are worse still.

They immediately label anyone who dares question the “official” curves as a moron, kook, or intellectual terrorist, regardless of the fact that the questioner may have substantial mathematical experience in their own right.

Save your energies for something far more productive than engaging with these cargo cultists!

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

I also like how healtcare workers have become a defacto military wing of the cultists. In one city, they were using a wall of nurses (or something gay like that) to block protesters.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Healthcare in my experience are the most rule following script oriented morons pretending to be a science based discipline I have come across. The vast majority have little understanding outside the models taught at med school and even less interest in research. They blindly follow guidelines and parrot official guidance like some sort of priesthood. They could not develop their own diagnostic techniques to save their life. Even within the discipline the few doctors who actually bother to do empirical research tend to be pilloried and hounded even in their own profession if it goes against the dogma of the… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  tristan
4 years ago

I balefully admire your vitriol, almost the equal of mine 😀 Two comments:
Many of the rules in a system were set up as the best known way to manage a system, perform a mission or whatever. Even the best designed system will break under some stress.

You didn’t mention that government and other regulation often stiles innovation.

Member
Reply to  tristan
4 years ago

People who work in health care have to be first and foremost great at memorization not problem solving or concern for patients. Being selected for the ability to memorize what you are told is important doesn’t lend itself to a group of people who color outside of the lines

Andy Texan
Reply to  tristan
4 years ago

When the $20 Trump pills were shown to be the best way out of the mess, many of the vaunted expert doctors refused to accept this unwanted reality. No what we need are un discovered vaccines and 1000 dollar anti-viral medications.

theRussians
theRussians
Member
Reply to  tristan
4 years ago

every system that has hard scripted rules, I have found, is basically like the trouble shooting section in a 80’s vcr manual…the trouble I am experiencing is not there! In a world of sociopathic script followers and box checkers, that’s a problem.
there are 2 types of people in the world,
1. those that can extrapolate the next step from the supplied data,

Tim from Nashua
Tim from Nashua
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Which was Fake News worthy of Pallywood. The other fake thing going on is the, ”We’re all in this together.” meme. Another is the trite, virtue signaling of “Thank You First Responders” signs.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Uh uh! White bring come back, bring more candy bars and cigarettes! 😀 — By Ben, who has in his real-life, seen a TV documentary about cargo cults!

Chief
Chief
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

The Branch Covidians have gone full retard.

Full. Retard.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Chief
4 years ago

If it’s going to be clown world, I think we should treat this like Halloween. Let’s all just dress up like samurai and ninja turtles.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Let’s dress up like and play doctor!

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Scrubs plus medieval plague masks. What’s not to like?

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

I have a mannequin in hazmat suit, gloves and plague mask with a sprayer on my front porch. Her suit says CAUTION PLAGUE. Lots of people out walking and biking in our retirement community stop and speak. I’ve had Branch Covidians express concern. When I laugh, they peddle on.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

I’d like to see us turn up the mockery.

Corrupt healthcare
Corrupt healthcare
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

“Are the CDC, FDA, NIH and WHO warehouses where the medical profession puts their fascist schoolmarms, race-baiting clowns and third rate opportunists? They had one job. They failed. In fact, their confusion and misinformation made a bad situation worse.”

http://www.woodpilereport.com/

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  T. Morris
4 years ago

Some at Sailer have actually been pushing back. My fav: “More case studies like this will only result in unbearable costs, bureaucratic paralysis, and a whole lot of spurious conclusions based on the illusory degree of precision and accuracy they foster, meanwhile more businesses tank, more livelihoods are lost, and more power accrues to an objectionable species of apparatchiks and busybodies. Is it your objective to replace the gender studies of the Left with your own equally useless cargo cult of meaningless data manipulation? Did the hierophants of intersectionality draw your ire not because they were wrong but because they… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Yeah, I’m disappointed about Steve.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

The indefatigable poster known as “Hail” is doing God’s work at iSteve.

I believe the poster known as “Je Suis Omar Mateen” was shut down by the proprietor himself.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

You mean Steve is shutting down dissenters? Why? Was he being rude or just honest?

Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Sailer was the biggest surprise to me. The only thing I can think of is that:

1.HBD is getting old hat and he is looking for a new focus that will get him back into the mainstream or

2. The invisible enemy has punched an emotional button and is providing us with more evidence that, in spite of all the fancy analytics, smart people, like everyone else, are primarily driven by emotion.

Bacchus
Bacchus
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Damn it, and I just bought this oxi-meter iSteve recommended.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/buy-a-pulse-oximeter/
It’s really cool. If you have the Corona virus and you feel like shit, look at the oximeter. It will confirm that feeling and before they can stick you on a ventilator, which will kill you, you rush to the hospital and show them your oxi-meter results and they’ll treat you with meds instead. And you’ll live bro!

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
4 years ago

Side note, don’t these masks just freeze your face into scowl? I want to rip this goddamn thing off and smile at a stranger in a store — is that too much to ask? Or does the transmission of human kindness pose a threat to public health? You know what, let’s just blink morse code at each other: it’s safer that way. Isn’t it great to have the government control nearly every aspect of your life? How could you *not* want your grandparents to die alone, or at best, flanked by a maximum of two socially distanced kin in masks?… Read more »

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

i dunno why this was downvoted. voted up

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  greyenlightenment
4 years ago

I deleted some of the personal rant parts. I just needed to get stuff off of my chest, because some days, I can’t handle all this bullshit. Today, there was a 400 pound Hispanic woman directing supermarket customers as though she were an aircraft marshaller. She even had two illuminated signaling devices! And I saw her rat someone out to a cop for not SDing, too. I didn’t know whether to attempt to use my entire body to strangle her or to explode into laughter. What a bunch of bullshit clownery. People fighting over a box of cheerios (oh, the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

“let’s just blink morse code at each other”

I’m getting very creative with my eyebrows.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I’m gonna shave mine as a form of protest. That way, no one will know what the hell I’m thinking.

Jim Haples
Jim Haples
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Uh, you don’t have eyebrows.

Member
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Yeah, I met that same obese Hispanic woman directing people in the checkout lines at my local supermarket. I think there’s only one of her but she’s able to exist in multiple places at once somehow. Basically what this thing is, ultimately, is an opportunity for all the worst people in our society to get a taste of power. Most of us only deal with DMV mentality once every couple years but now you get to experience it every day, everywhere. Welcome to bio-Leninist America – https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

ROFL. Its like the correct proportions of papaya batter and grease endow people with superpowers.

You in NJ by any chance?

Member
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Worse, Western Oregon. It’s Jersey without all the sunshine. They don’t let us pump our own gas here either though.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

Former Oregon Resident

Its not a bad restriction subject to the efficiency of the operator as it creates jobs and reduces risks and possibly leakage and similar pollution which is a small amount if little cost per gallon.

To compare (stats from Oregon Business Report)

Oregon 900 and change stations with a shade under 10K jobs as vs just under 1800 stations with 12k employees which is like 60+% more staffing and with close to the same per capita number of stations.

Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

And it does cut down on “the Zoolander Effect” a bit – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap0BZKlG5QY

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Law;
Transparent face shields. You could even eat out if you don’t mind taking your wine through a straw.

Seriously, it’s not wrong to look to ingenuity for answers we don’t have yet but will.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Al from da Nort
4 years ago

Hahaha! Just pour the Merlot down my snorkel tube.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

You just wait until the temperatures start to get into the 90’s. Those masks will come off faster than Marilyn Monroe’s underwear around a Kennedy.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

Yeah, the Kennys give me diarrhea too.

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

Ha. Is that faster than a New Yawk minute?

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a strange land
4 years ago

Faster than a Chappaquiddick minute.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

Masks would ruin the tans idiot White wahmen think they need. Seriously, this pathologizing of pale skin (white as a fish belly, etc.) is sickening. One reason I don’t look as old as most others my age is my skin isn’t crinkled and covered with brown spots from sunbathing. I like my God-given complexion.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Me, too. 3g. I look ten years younger than I am in part because I never sunbathed. Mother knew best.

Maren
Maren
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

So I (born 1966) am going through the Change just as the world is. Try having a hot flash while wearing a mask in Menards. Glasses steam up and you just kind of bump around until it passes. Dreading summer.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
4 years ago

The immigrants, including legal ones, are starting to go home. Let’s encourage them. “America is a hellhole. No work here. Your beloved family will take care of you back home. Remember Mom’s cooking? Send us Instagrams.”

David_Wright
Member
4 years ago

Well we have gotten a good look at what type of citizenry we have and how society will proceed forward with them. Like you said, they are emotional and easily led or controlled.

If we didn’t have elites who weren’t just the same , I could predict how they would use this knowledge. You are right that mostly chaos is the new order and of course all that is left is the memories of a better time and people. Gird yourself everyone.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  David_Wright
4 years ago

If the colonists in the late 18th century were like postmodern Americans, the United States never would have come into existence.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Would’ve been a bigger Canada, eh? 🙂

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  David_Wright
4 years ago

Yes, there will be chaos, but Zman said, “Trump is…the starting point for a period of chaos, as the world tries to create a new ‘logic of the universe’.” That suggests that some kind of new order is expected to eventually emerge, and while it’s always a good bet that something really bad will result, that’s not an iron law of history. Maybe something good will emerge. Even if we only get rid of universal-franchise democracy (which ensures mob rule), we may be measurably better off.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Oh, Mr. Smith, I think you’ll get your wish.

Shrugger
Shrugger
4 years ago

Imagine what is going to happen when 25+% of mortgages go unpaid….

Member
Reply to  Shrugger
4 years ago

No need to fear. To quote one of our posters, “don’t worry, AOC has a degree in economics.”

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Neiman-Marcus is the canary in the coal mine.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

The canary died a while ago they are now just gassing the miners wholesale.

nailheadtom
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

That’s why apartments and public storage facilities were popping up like mushrooms. If you’re a real estate developer, you have to develop real estate or maybe become a Walmart greeter. After the 2008 debacle the financial guys became unwilling to sort through a bunch of mysterious mortgage failures to straighten things out. They realized that loaning money for apartment complexes was less risky because when the rent doesn’t get paid the tenant moves out and is replaced. The owner that’s paying the mortgage remains the same. So there are new, fancy apartments all over the place. Even before this February… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  nailheadtom
4 years ago

1M+ “legal” foreigners / year. There are complexes outside of DC (and most major cities, tbh) that are full of Indians. Add in all the illegal Mexicans going to the older complexes.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

Thus, can we all agree that Trump’s executive order prohibiting ALL immigration for the time being is a good idea?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

“for the time being”?

It’s a great idea all the time, unless white Europeans want to move here.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Not to worry. “Asylum” seekers will (likely) still be allowed. Illegal crossings will remain unaffected. White Europeans? ha ha ha! That hasn’t happened since 1965, hardly.

I haven’t heard this discussed yet, but topic: If we do enter a depression, will millions of “born-here” Americans suddenly out of work take a dimmer view of the millions of illegals here? Impacts on politics?”

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 years ago

Ben asked what millions of Americans unemployed will do with respect to immigration, both legal and illegal: “Impacts on politics?” he asks. I reply: “Beneficial. GREATLY beneficial. REALLY greatly beneficial.” Just watch.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

You get what you can get, Citizen. The Left always says “We demand all power,” and then takes what they can get. That always becomes permanent, and they use it as a platform from which to make further demands. Works great. Is there some reason we shouldn’t be doing the same to advance our values?

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

We don’t want white western Europeans. Look what they’ve allowed to happen to their countries.

Chaz Chazstein
Chaz Chazstein
Member
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

We’ve been trying as a family of four now for 2 years. The kids and I all have ‘merican passports but the wife is a Dutch heathen, we have to continuously jump hoops.

Just submitted our final paperwork mid March only to see today immigration stopping. All we wanted to be was good little American tax payers.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Why would they? For nearly all of them, life is far safer, more stable and better at home.

Even if White fertility stabilizes, there is zero reason for most anyone to come to the US unless you are a grifter or carpetbagger

South Africa might be the exception but they are heading to Oz or Russia

Toasty
Toasty
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

It’s three years too late. People telling me I should praise him at this point is like an employee who comes to work late every day and then expects to be praised the one day he finally comes in on time.

Member
Reply to  Toasty
4 years ago

As Vince Lombardi said, “you don’t do the right things every once in a while.”

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

All of me agrees!

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

(This is a reply to Nailheadtom above; don’t know how it wound up down here.) That’s dead right. I live in an “upscale” apartment complex in northern Virginia. Tenants here are (based on a visual and auditory estimate) 30 to 40 percent Indian and Paki, 40 percent Hispanic, 15 percent white, the rest black and go-figure-it. They are well behaved. I don’t want to think about what life is like in some of the apartment developments for the economic and social washouts. My wife and I want to move away from the D.C. area but of course we’re stuck here… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  Gravity Denier
4 years ago

Honest question: how does it work socially there? Do you talk to your neighbors? Do you have friends in the neighborhood?

My experience in a diverse neighborhood is that people just talk to their own ethnic group, while whitey tries to be friends with everyone. But in reality whitey just doesn’t fit in and doesn’t really make friends with the other whites.

Just wondering what it’s like for you.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  UFO
4 years ago

UFO, your experience is what it’s like here. The best I can say — and it’s no small thing — is that everybody seems to get along. I am unaware of any hostile acts or words among members of different ethnic species. Aside from standard pleasantries when residents are required by circumstance to be in others’ company, there seems to be zero social interaction except with members of the same race or background. That’s not entirely because of diversity; a lot is down to the alienation you find in urban areas. The neighborhood around the apartment complex includes quite a… Read more »

UFO
UFO
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

Check out the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) for a taste of your future.

Brampton, Ontario, known as “Browntown” or “Bramptadesh” is 44% “South Asian”, 13% black, demographically. It’s really 90% Indian outside of a few older subdivisions with whites and ghetto apartment buildings of blacks. Population is 600,000 and only 26% are white.

Markham Ontario, is 45% Chinese, and only 22% white. Population 330,000.

After a while they stop pretending to care about their host country and it just becomes India or China in Canada. It’s very sad and I hope that Trump actually bans immigration.

Durendal
Durendal
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

If you were to speculate Z what do you think happens?

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

But we kind of did. Not to the extent of negative prices, but they had fallen a lot more than they have today. In the summer of 2008 oil was $150 a barrel and it fell to like $30. The world was so out of storage that they were using oil tankers for storage and they were running out of them as well.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

“What happens when all of these bankrupt retailers stop paying rents?” Bailout The lesson from ’08-09 – at least to the Fed and Congress – is you can print and borrow all you want to save the system. The Fed just figures that money is credit so if credit (mortgages, bonds, etc.) is falling by around the same amount as you inject money into the system, everything remains in balance. (Also, the velocity of money is crazy low so money isn’t going anywhere anyway.) For Congress, borrowing doesn’t change the amount of money in the system; it just moves it… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

I’m not sanguine about an economic recovery of any kind for a generation or two myself. The usual solutions by the people at the top, money printing and war won’t work Money printing won’t help largely because none of the money drives demand enough to grow the economy and frankly new suckers err children aren’t being born at any rate Any war would result in far too many loses. The damage caused by Kung Flu was probably accidental. I can’t imagine what an actual intentional Captain Trips would do and even assuming our decaying nuclear arsenal works, everyone else has… Read more »

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Shrugger
4 years ago

“Imagine what is going to happen when 25+% of mortgages go unpaid….” The old solution to keep the mortgage market going was for the banks and their elite overlords to support increased immigration, hoping for a combination of factors: (1) sheer numbers, legal and illegal, out of which some, accustomed to working hard and not blowing their money on material things, would come up with down payments, maybe in conjunction with other legal or illegal family members, and (2) Chinese immigration and the Chinese investment in real estate that would bring, more than likely Chinese government money financing a big… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

I am looking for a nice, fat default by all student loan debtors. These kids, buried in debt by the same society that drains much of the earnings of an entire life during “end of life care” … made it so perpetual renters = Millenials. And speaking of draining all the wealth while keeping dementia patients alive long enough to make sure their reverse mortgages preclude homes being passed down to the next generation, conveniently creating new mortgage holders to buy, or renters forever … all this ‘clap for an hour’ bullshit is not for me. I know, everyone is… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Not only should the student-borrowers go belly up, but schools like Harvard, with its $40billion endowment, should have that money clawed back by the government entities that “guaranteed” those student loans. Selling a defective product indeed.

re: “$400 ear wax clearing.”
I was recently billed $950 for a tetanus shot.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
4 years ago

“but schools like Harvard, with its $40billion endowment, should have that money clawed back” This × 1,000. I hear this, often, from people I know. “I was recently billed $950 for a tetanus shot.” For me an my house, I have instituted a NO MEDICAL CARE (unless emergency, and then within reason) without knowing EXACTLY how much it costs. How much it would be billed for non covered people. Medical providers hate-hate-hate having to answer these questions but will when you make them. Also, do not pay these Surprise Medical Bills. Serve formal dispute letters via Certified Mail, Return Receipt… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Harvard just put its hand out out for a $9 million handout.

$9 million pays the salary of the manager of its $40 billion endowment fund for 4 months.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  bilejones
4 years ago

Good news…
re: Harvard just put its hand out out for a $9 million handout.

According to Mnuchin, Harvard has just said it will be returning that $9million bailout.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Regarding the provision of primary family medical care, there’s a revolution brewing. You can read about it at https://blog.hint.com/understanding-direct-care.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Homer; I’d venture that the reason medical providers “hate hate hate” telling you what something ‘costs’ is that they have no clear idea themselves. For example, take the ‘simple’ problem of how to assign the cost of an MD degree, say $250k up front, to patient visits. It is clearly a critical asset, and it’s too big to just ignore. Common economics dictates that its cost must be recovered (else who’d go into medicine). Yet, if you say to amortize it pro rata, you must guesstimate how many patients you’d see in a lifetime. Who can do that_? I don’t… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Al from da Nort
4 years ago

Big Al, I don’t disagree with you. I also just assume it is human nature to resent doing work that you are not getting paid for, or in a more bureaucratic world, ‘not my yob man.’ I have a GP that has been with me for some 30+ years. Great guy, swears like a pirate, really looks out for me and my family. He has told me that some procedures cost less than my co pay if billed as a non insured. The guy does his best to skirt the system, pro patient. So when Obamacare risked me and my… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Shrugger
4 years ago

I am already thinking about that $10,000 beach house I always wanted but could not justify at $350,000.

Or that $2,000 sports car I could not justify when it was $32,000.

Of course, it’s gonna hurt when that loaf of bread is $159.95.

Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Of course, it’s gonna hurt when that loaf of bread is $159.95.
Not if you grow your own😉

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Bread doesn’t grow on trees. It comes from the supermarket.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Lineman
4 years ago

Right now the missus bakes her own for pennies a loaf. And she makes a damn fine loaf, sourdough, italian … keeps and feeds starter.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

I tried to create some starter sourdough last year and it was a total failure.
I bake a lot of bread, but I cannot get costs that low. Even the store brand flour is like $5 for 10 pounds. For convenience I bake it in a small toaster over that is pretty efficient and it’s still like 15c in electricity cost (about a kwh) The store brand bread is .99 loaf. It only lasts 2 days. I wish I knew what to add to it to make it last a week.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

I can’t speak on your personal experience. I can say that my missus puts a lot of work into starting and maintaining starters. I see her daily feeding of water, flour. She bakes bread in a full sized oven and buys supplies in bulk since she is practically proofing or baking every day. It really is amazing the amount one person can produce, to the point that store bought sweets and bread are not needed. Plus home baked is so much better, not to mention the fun of having it happen in the house, the upbeat scents and outcomes. Not… Read more »

SearsTowerAlways
SearsTowerAlways
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Buy a bread box and store your loaves there. Your bread will last a week at room temperature. You can find cheap ones at discount stores but for reference: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Kitchen-Dining-Bread-Boxes/zgbs/kitchen/13880451 I prepare all my home meals from scratch, including bread. Say what you will. I keep Amish friendship bread starter in my fridge but not sourdough. My customary bread-making technique involves baking yeast dough in an 8-quart enamel-coated dutch oven situated inside my standard kitchen oven and wrapped with baking parchment. I coat the parchment with cornmeal and flour, then unceremoniously dump the dough ball out, twist the parchment and… Read more »

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

I second SearsTower. Sourdough shouldn’t be hard. 1. You don’t have to feed the starter every day. You can keep the starter in the fridge for weeks without feeding and then fire it back up over a day or two to get it back to full health. 2. Get a bread box. Sourdough naturally stays fresh for around a week. 3. Use the no-knead method for making the dough. Breadtopia has good video showing how. Just Google “no-knead breadtopia”. Doesn’t take hardly any time. 4. Cook the bread in either a dutch oven or, much easier, a Lodge combo cooker.… Read more »

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

Looky what we have going! Ok, caveat is that I am the bread EATER and breadmaker observation post. I see that starting a starter means daily feeding for a week or two, but since I am the beneficiary of marrying well, that is based on my observations. I am no bread maker.

However, I have observed the Dutch Oven in action. The brand Bob’s Red Mill. Our oven has a proofing setting.

This is more fun than absorbing fear porn!

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

HomerB,

The Lodge combo cooker is much easier to use than the Dutch oven. Put the dough on parchment paper first. Score it. Then put it on pan part of the combo cooker and finally place the pot part on top.

No more trying to drop the dough into the dutch oven like some WWII bombardier. Also, remember, use the no knead method. Simple and easy.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

A new loaf was born today, to be part of tonight’s dinner. I am going to copy this breadmaking feedback to share. Decades of successful marriage is partly due to not being overbearing on my part about her things and I trust she does not make too many “suggestions” when I am laying under her car fixing it.

That said, some valuable points here, the parchment paper info piques my interest. Again noting that I am not the breadmaker. I can do lots of things, but respect this craft from just watching and enjoying the results.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

I used a name brand “organic” wheat bread flour for the sourdough starter. Everything was going well until about a week in. I’m going to try it again. I generally use regular flour for my regular loaves. Does the bread flour work better? I have one of those wooden bread boxes with the rolling lid. It’s one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Cookbook-People-Original-Rolltop-Storage/dp/B016N233JS/ The best thing I’ve found for improving the bread is proofing the dough in the oven with a pot of boiling water. You get a much lighter loaf and much better rising. I’ve never made the no-knead dutch oven bread,… Read more »

urbando
urbando
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

I have a Dutch oven and have tried the no-knead recipe (from youtube vids) several times. My loaf is always still doughy in the middle. Perhaps my oven (gas) just doesn’t come up to temp. I don’t have an oven thermometer so don’t know for certain.

I avoid buying breads and baked goods as I generally try and reduce carbs in the ol’ diet, but it would be good to get the bread-baking skills down to a predictable quality outcome like some of you appear to have done.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

My local Aldi AP flour $1.29 for a 5 lb bag.

tarstarkas
tarstarkas
Reply to  bilejones
4 years ago

I just picked up a 10 pound bag on sale for like $4 at Shoprite, which is where I shop. It’s a big chain. Funny, but there is another big chain here called Acme.

SearsTowerAlways
SearsTowerAlways
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Acme is a fine company, just be sure to review the fine print before you buy, consider: comment image

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

My girlfriend is obsessed with the Acme monopoly sweepstakes.

“Babe, we just won a free 6-pack of petroleum jelly sticks!”

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  tarstarkas
4 years ago

Freeze it. Bread thaws fast and doesn’t get soggy. Buy pre sliced or slice before you freeze. You can pry it apart pretty easily.

I’ll throw extra hamburger buns from memorial day in the chest freezer and use them the next year sometimes. You have to watch for frost during long storage though.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

I dropped about $150 yesterday and all I bought was paper products, beverages, some produce. No meat. Only a few cans (of olives, on sale). Prices are about double what they were, particularly compared to what I used to pay (on sale/with coupon). But none of that counts as inflation.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Shrugger
4 years ago

The Fed will step in and buy the mortgages, probably leveraging money from the Treasury, and/or Congress will start a program to pay those mortgage payments.

Defaulting mortgages (due to renters not paying) destroys asset prices, i.e. deflation. Powell lies awake at night in fear of deflation. They will do whatever they can to prevent it, but it’s a battle. There’s too much debt relative to income. The Fed and Congress are trying to counter the lower income via money printing and borrowing. That works until it doesn’t.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

I agree. But look at the big success these masters of the universe have had with oil. They may be in over their heads.

As one of those weird savers, I am exposed in the event of a significant currency devaluation. And I am not naive enough to think it could happen. My plan is to live as if 75% of the value of my cash holdings are gone already and equities are worth zero.

Protect my home, a place where we can pack the entire family if need be. Expect the worst, hope for something not the worst.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

The dirty secret is that the Fed and Congress can only try to push the head of the beast. If that animal wants to go left, it will go left no matter what the Fed or Congress do. They can plug holes and push at the margin, but they can’t “be” the market. Btw, you’ll probably see deflation before you see inflation. Plan for both. Cash and bonds are great for deflation, terrible for inflation. Stocks definitely don’t like deflation and aren’t too keen on inflation, but they’re still good to have around long-term. Nothing wrong with keeping 5% to… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Yeah, we’ve got a place to go, too. Infinite water supply (practically.) However, we’ll probably only have two or three guns to defend ourselves, with about 7 or 8 men of fighting age. I fear roving packs of vibrants.

But I still doubt it’ll get that bad.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Best to be ready. I can reach a loaded weapon while in bed. Plus I like looking at a nice firearm for a lot of reasons.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Lawdog, Experience has shown me the “roving packs of vibrants” don’t really much do the rural thing. As a matter of fact, they are as uncomfortable as a hoo-arh in church. I’ve had some humorous encounters. It’s the land of crazy-ass white men and all the animals are scary, in their eyes. Hispanic compasinos (rural or farm-area originating Mexicans) are the exception. They are about as “redneck” as our rednecks and probably have more in common with you than some big city Anglo barista does. On the practical note of too many hands and not enough boomsticks I suggest looking… Read more »

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 years ago

The reason we have so much debt and subsequent deflation is of course wage arbitrage . This combines with low fertility to basically create a zero sum market and ends up with a few people owning too much stuff to actually have an economy . Unless wages go up, keeping asset prices from free fall is difficult, in times of a general depression like we are going to enter is like pushing on a string. The smart thing to do is a general default and jubilee but that won’t happen unless there is a total collapse or its goes big… Read more »

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
4 years ago

What happens to law enforcement in poorly-run municipalities when the tax revenue that pays for them collapses?

nailheadtom
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Many of them will continue to do it without pay because they can extort more from the public and business than they can make holding a hand-lettered sign at a freeway exit.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  nailheadtom
4 years ago

Ya know? I don’t see NEARLY as many folks “holding a hand-lettered sign at a freeway exit” as I used to. Course there’re a WHOLE LOT fewer cars on the streets, too. Getting so a grifter can’t make a dishonest buck any more. 😉

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  nailheadtom
4 years ago

Or they can revert to the tried and true method of surcharging fines and then writing tickets out to everyone on everything. Things were so bad in NYC once that police were writing tickets for sitting outside of bodegas on milk crates. Not sure if it was a loitering ordinance or improper use of a milk crate.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

With law enforcement and all other local functions, what happens is centralization of power. The one thing local and state governments can’t do is print their own money. The tempatation of fresh fiat dollars will cause them to willingly hand over what independence they have left.

Sure, we’ll fund your police force, but you have to prove to us you are aggressively policing White Supremacist Terrorism, by which we mean “badwhites who don’t want to go along with the program.”

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Our small police force out here in the province is made up of people from all over the country. Most of them don’t know us local folks. Half of them are assholes.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Half of them are assholes.

So few?

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
4 years ago

Andrew Anglin calls Cops “BadgeNig**ers” for a reason

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Same here. The small local force brought in all these fat, over the hill ex cops from all over. I chatted one up parked at the end of my road napping, when he was new. There is one obligatory butch female one too.

Our local “police” actually do NOTHING except serve as a financial unit, speed trap. These “heroes” allow the Staties and Country cops to do everything else.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The local officials here are in the DFW area people’s republic are the boot heel on everything – even though wheelchair gov’ has not banned everything the local goodWhites (and all their IKAGOs – both elected and appointed) just luv them some authoritarianism.

nailheadtom
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

When the mythical “autonomous cars” hit the road these things will happen: https://nailheadtom.blogspot.com/2018/04/autonomous-autos-and-future.html

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Where I live it is patrolled by rural Sheriff’s Deputies. I guess because they live here and oftentimes don’t have backup they are pretty judicious on enforcement and quite friendly. Most of their time is spent dealing with local meth addicts, 51-50s and gangbanger types that hover around the casinos.
I’ve never actually seen them ticket the locals, and we have some dizzy locals here.

Sorry y’all have crappier cops working your areas.

Pillow Fort Commander
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

The local police where I live no longer pull over anyone except for drivers creating “hazardous” conditions, but that won’t last. Whenever the full economic impact to local governments is understood I highly suggest not going 1mph over the speed limit, and heaven help you if you have a broken taillight.

Member
Reply to  Pillow Fort Commander
4 years ago

If your car has cruise control, learn how to use it. Before this madness started I barely touched mine. Now it’s on almost all the time.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

Not good for most of the speed traps here as they are set up to nail people in the 30 mph zones, local driving. What DOES work for over the road travel are cheap radar detectors. Years ago there was an ‘arms race’ between John Law and detector manufacturers. X Band was replaced by K Band. Replaced by Ka, instant on, then finally laser. The issue with laser is it is a line of sight tool, so the cops actually have to do some work. I have spoken to a couple of them and asked why they use radar when… Read more »

Member
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Well, really there needs to be an integrated speed control system that automatically sets your speed for whatever the local limit is using Google map data and takes data from multiple radar and laser sensors in the car. They probably already offer this in luxury models but I drive a cheap car so I need to actually look at the road signs.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

You’re kidding, right?

Dave
Dave
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

Let’s hope he is.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

I think I’ve already mentioned my latest Toyota automatically films the speed limit signs and posts it on the dashboard. Very minor step from there to limit acceleration to match the posted signage. Big bro is always watching.

Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

I was thinking of this as way of protecting yourself from the cops, not something mandatory. If it exists, I’m sure the schoolmarms will want it to be mandatory and controlled by the government but that doesn’t mean we need to listen to them.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  HomerB
4 years ago

Seconding this recommendation. My co-pilot is a Beltronics GT-360, which is a rebadged Escort model. It picks up stationary traps and rolling patrols plenty far off. It also provides GPS-based speed readouts and uses GPS to build its own internal database of stationary X-band door alarms and K-band radar signs/photo cameras. Most police are just out there blasting Ka-band radar all over. My unit picks up the leakage from the back of their radar guns long before I ever see the speed trap. I also agree with the comment about laser (lidar) being too much work for the average cop,… Read more »

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Pillow Fort Commander
4 years ago

My local city (county seat) did away with its police force last year! Not sure why, I’d guess to save money. The same city, actually County Breeding Colony Authority, has had one of its managed ghettos (Motel-style section 8 homes) unoccupied for years because they can’t find a [nonprofit?] buyer.

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

The Law of the Jungle. It’s coming.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

If you read the accounts of the Yugoslavia conflict, they point out the Police mostly vanished and lots rapidly became a large and very armed gang that everyone had to avoid.

TomA
TomA
4 years ago

Our society and culture is like a forest managed by the government instead of nature (hello US Forest Service). Every little lightning fire is brutally and immediately suppressed thereby enabling deadfall to accumulate year after year. Then one day, a careless camper triggers a minor brush fire than sweeps outward at lightspeed and in no time becomes a raging uncontrolled inferno. That is the coming chaos. And when the smoke clears. the tallest and strongest trees will remain (scarred but straight) and the decaying deadfall turned into ash.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

And the careless camper goes to prison for twenty years for his carelessness, allowing an ember aloft in such a mismanaged tenderbox. But I guess we all gotta make sacrifices.

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  TomA
4 years ago

That is one DAMNED scary you paint. Not the aftermath but forest fire itself. Like Scott Glenn’s character , Emmett, said in 1985’s epic Western “Silverado”, “It’s gonna get mean.”

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Bill_Mullins
4 years ago

Well, that’s what “period of chaos” means too, Bill. (By the way…teach us how to do boldface and italics in our comments?)

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  Jim Smith
4 years ago

Jim, it’s all in the use of html tags. Google the proper syntax for html tags. The ones which I know work here are: bold strike italic and

quoted text

I cannot actually show you the general form because the board won’t let me (or at least I haven’t figured out a usable work-around which would be meaningful. You can find a sort of list here:
https://way2tutorial.com/html/html_basic_tags.php

Willie Horton
Willie Horton
4 years ago

“ In fact, no one knows if they will actually try to do it voluntarily. Local officials have gotten the whiff of authoritarianism in their nostrils and they like it.” This is really scary. Although many of them may not be as naked and outspoken as the dictator of Michigan, there are a LOT of local government officials who have made it clear they’re happy to let their lockdowns drag on forever and don’t care the slightest about the suffering of the people they rule. But they’re oh so concerned about releasing the poor criminals from jail, though! The jail… Read more »

Educated.redneck
Educated.redneck
Reply to  Willie Horton
4 years ago

Thats one of the crazier things. If this is “just the flu, bro,” are we just going to empty the prisons at the beginning and end of every winter now to coincide with the flu season? Debt jubiliee – to include relief of all convictions? Its gonna make 1991 look like 1951. Unrelated, the price of x855 has doubled and they’re selling out at the doubled price.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Willie Horton
4 years ago

Good point/

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Willie Horton
4 years ago

Just read DiBlassio is shocked, shocked to find recidivism in his recently released prisoners. Captain Renault agreed with his sentiment.

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 years ago

Trump’s spirit animal is a wrecking ball.

He was always a means to an opening, not to an end.

Our guys who misunderstood this in 2016 – and some who didn’t – seem hellbent on botching the even wider opening that 2020 is giving us.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
4 years ago

I think most here can not help but notice that governments around the world made everything worse in every way they could. From a tyrannical communist government like China to a supposedly “free” democracy like the US, we have seen governments lock-down their people and their economies in counter productive ways. I can not prove it from here, but I suspect that the stronger the government the greater the damage. Certainly, the more bureaucratic the government the more unnecessary damage was done. If a year ago you had told me that we were going to destroy the future of the… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Do you think the protests will do any good? I’m contemplating going.

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

I think they might do some good depending on the time and place. But I bet going will make you feel better and that is something in itself.

Perhaps the governor of your state will claim that the people “made him do it” and re-open the state. Worth a shot I think.

And the above comes from a real pessimist.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Protests are fine when there’s a reasonable expectation of those being protested bowing to the will of the protesters, e.g. college presidents to BLM. In this case protesters will hear one giant “lolgf”. Something stronger’s called for.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

Mark,

Yes, I think I will go. I’ll wear a mask and gloves for the sake of optics and not getting arrested.

I love how the left is imputing partisan motivations upon the protesters. As though there were something partisan about losing your job, home, or business. Nevertheless, I suspect these protests are going to get a lot bigger.

Something stronger? To what might you be alluding?

Mark Stoval
Mark Stoval
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Lawdog,

I am too old and not in great health. As a young man I might (yes, FBI I said “might”) have been tempted to use my long gun and send a politician to his just reward. But that itself might be counter productive. So, I don’t know.

I would love to see a mob go crazy and invade a statehouse. But it will not happen, and it probably would make matters worse anyway.

I got nothing really.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Mark,

I am 27, and I have a kid on the way. I was finishing up training for an important jump in position and salary. Now, because that training can’t occur, we a lot have less money to raise our child. If I didn’t have a kid coming I wouldn’t be (as) pissed. Maybe that’s selfish, I don’t know.

I just don’t see Murphy budging on this. He’s crying about needing more tests, whatever the hell that’s supposed to do.

I hope you’re staying healthy as you can. I appreciate your advice.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

I have never understood what testing is supposed to do. It’s just more hocus-pocus for the masses.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

We’re still riding on the idea that testing is essential because the virus is so deadly. If Smurphy orders more testing, well, then maybe people will take it more seriously.

But he is retarded. I hope the protests intensify. I hope he is shown options. You know, a result in which he learns that he can’t get everything that he wants.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

The laughable testing regime is the Left’s pseudo-scientific means of establishing the pitifully tiny denominator used in the the death rate calculation.

Anyone with more than two functioning brain cells understands the virus has spread to far more people than those who have been tested.

This means the real denominator in the death rate equations in enormous. Even with the juiced death number they are using for the numerator, this is just the flu.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Is there any stopping their retardation?

CCP
CCP
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

The most revealing slip was how the establishment concluded the CCP’s response was rational and that we had to copy it. When most of our establishment is owned by the CCP in one way or another it’s not surprising to see them emulate their owners.

Even the “burn it all down” crowd failed to see this. “See, China welded everyone in their apartments – this must be so serious! Why aren’t you taking this seriously?!” Why do they assume China’s response was even rational in the first place?

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  CCP
4 years ago

CCP Ministry of Propaganda floated all that crazy “amateur” video – the fumigating truck formations, people falling on their face, hazmat suited police welding doors shut. It worked. Governments crazily over-reacted, or should I say citizens saw justifiable reason for governments to over-react. In other words, all by design, whether US governors were complicit or not.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  M. B. Lamar
4 years ago

It looks and smells like those fake mass shooting events, just on a massive scale. Its not just the chinks the entire state machinery in essentially every western govt/academic/health complex (see the world map for hotspots – not much in the third world – duh) is turned towards ramping this up. It cannot be explained by incompetence.Counter intuitively you do not need every person to be on the know. You just set the desired outcome policy at the top and they all follow along willingly and will gladly ruin you and your family to show what good little employees they… Read more »

Stranger in a strange land
Stranger in a strange land
Reply to  Mark Stoval
4 years ago

Death, taxes, and the stronger the government the greater the damage.

Official Bologna Tester
Official Bologna Tester
4 years ago

Z Man said: “Through the ballot, the public had injected a foreign body into the political system.”

So your saying the pandemic started in November 2016?

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Official Bologna Tester
4 years ago

Trumpdemic!

It’s the political version of the Mad Cow disease.

Andrew
Andrew
4 years ago

This whole mess has shown how many are unable to think things through. They are struggling now, just wait to see what happens when things turn ugly.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Andrew
4 years ago

Z has commented on this, but the widespread, facile acceptance of the official models and total refusal to understand that the authorities are completely juicing the death counts shows that 90+% of the global population is horrifically innumerate.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

As demonstrated by the assumption that when the ‘authorities’ lift the ban, suddenly all economic activity will resume. Without jobs and income there is no demand (although I still saw plenty of empty shelves at the store yesterday – and one even had arrows indicating I had to go up one aisle and down the other, rather than wandering as I wished). My younger son was just furloughed last Sat. Interesting times ahead.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

It has been shocking to me how the Branch Covidians honestly believe the $22T US economy can be flipped on and off like a light switch.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Karen’s feelings don’t care about your facts

HomerB
HomerB
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Normies are retards and Karen gets all hot when she can beat you with her hairbrush.

ConservativeFred
ConservativeFred
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Is there a bumper sticker with this statement, because I would purchase one.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Ace had a blurb over at his site… called this event the “Karennacht.” Lol.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

“Like a light switch.” Well, it’s never been tried before. Not with a modern economy. Maybe they can. We’ll find out in a few weeks.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  3g4me
4 years ago

Grocery store shopping is metaphor for America and its subjects. The shepherds order shoppers to stay “two carts apart” from one another and herd them down one aisle and up the next. The shoppers, in ovine fashion, obey, all while wearing their silly masks. Shopping has become an exercise in human beings turning into sheep.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Yes, and it seems like it’s getting worse—even without new mandates. Last trip was enough for me. Too depressing. How did we come to this point that my grocery store has had to hire private security guards to man the doors and “mad dog” the customers coming in?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Ironically, the more incontrovertibly the facts show that Coronageddon is actually a nothingburger, the more draconian the measures against it become. There is madness here. There is a wallowing in authoritarianism. And there is a mule-headed refusal by the pissant tyrants to admit they were wrong.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

Doubling down on their beliefs is exactly what cults do when their prophecies fail.

Hence, Branch Covidians is a wholly accurate label.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago
The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  T. Morris
4 years ago

“Longitude” was a great book AND docudrama on A&E. Michael Gambon and Jeremy Irons were both perfect in their roles.

Highly recommended reading and viewing!

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

This is going to make people want to shop a lot less unless they stop all this nonsense in its tracks. Otherwise people who have just spent ,months doing with less with keep doing with less. This means no recovery at any point. That said there are protests all over the place. Media ignores them, Facebook tries to stop them . Problem is the system will not yield and the results of enough to push back to force them to yield would be worse than the current problem. Right now the options are endure and hope it goes back to… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

That’s been my refrain. If death projections keep getting walked back, why aren’t restrictions being gradually relaxed? Actually, they’re getting worse!
I’m starting to think that they’ll string this along interminably, and that I’m going to have to just go and protest. Never thought I would.

I think it’s going to get bad.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

There is a pushback movement going on but its being fought online with leaks since the media is avoiding covering anything that could possibly help President Trump. For example the Timcast has a lot of stores today about media saying “we don’t need masks” and about a viral picture that Buzzfeed (yes them) of Nurses blocking anti lockdown protestors very probably being fake and other older ones. There are lots of other stories out there as well on YouTube and elsewhere. The thing to remember is the Democrats and to a lesser degree Never Trumper allies don’t care very much… Read more »

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Compsci
4 years ago

Compsci, It’s been a long time coming. We’ve been luxuriating in the surplus from past harvests and are now into the beginning of the seed corn. Like Z says, lurching from crisis to crisis with a system that is no longer able to handle anything with resiliency sans overreaction or blatant incompetency. Interesting times we shall bear as required, God willing. If we can’t avoid it, relish the fact you shall be tested and be tough and flexible. As the old infantry joke goes when you hear incoming artillery, “For that which we are about to receive, let us be… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Most ‘smart’ people I’ve worked with in the *data* field are shockingly innumerate, as well as being unable to understand complex information relationships (especially in regard to uncertainty and time-orientation). The ‘system’ becomes the truth. Big Tech’s ‘big data predictions’ about who you are or what you do sometimes are shockingly accurate, but just as often insanely inaccurate (but we tend only to hear about the accurate predictions). “The Map is Not the Territory” is pretty much an unknown aphorism these days. I go back to John Gall’s Systemantics all the time. Though this specific aphorism comes from Alfred Korzybski,… Read more »

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

Systematics, which I devoured forty years ago, informs a fair amount of our kind of thinking whether we know it or not. And it is deadly serious no matter how much it will make you laugh.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

90% of them have an IQ 100 or less. They can’t be expected to understand complex ideas especially when the experts do not have a clue either.

I’m not defending the stupid but it is a novel virus and our experts aren’t all that smart, They go by models and rote and rarely think.

Worse very few of them have any understanding of other disciplines or exposure to other experts and complexity requires an interdisciplinary approach to be successful.

Judge Smails
Judge Smails
Reply to  Andrew
4 years ago

The Left’s cancel culture will not work very well on people that have nothing left to lose.

Vizzini
Member
4 years ago

What happens in a world suddenly awash in BTU’s? No one knows.

That’s not really true. We’ve experienced periods of cheap abundant energy in the past. — at least, relative to what was available before. In every such instance I know, it has corresponded with a tremendous improvement in human well-being.

The question now is, how will it interact with the shutdown. Hopefully it will have an ameliorating effect.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

FWIW, I’ve noticed no appreciable reduction in the price at the pump….

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

I have here. Prices down to $1.38/gallon at some discount pumps. Ramp up some Kroger points with your grocery purchases and you can get gas below $1/gallon.

This has measurable effects. For example, we dispose of a lot of construction waste. At $1.38/gallon, it becomes economically beneficial to drive the truck to the cheaper landfill farther out of the city.

Every mile on the road for truckers is more profitable than it was before.

When the farmers are planting or baling hay this spring, less of their gross is going to pay for fuel for the tractor.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Transportation will profit greatly. So will utility companies.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

But don’t expect the airlines to benefit. The decline in passengers is much greater than the decline in fuel prices.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Gold miners have a twofer: Highest price for their product for decades. Their biggest expense is energy- perhaps 50%..

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

Problem is there may not be much to transport or as much demand for commercial power. Broke people now more in debt don’t buy much and the economy may have some serious long lasting changes that may not lead to any real recovery. A good example, 24 Hour Fitness went bankrupt today. Its far from certain whether people will even want that kind of product as much when the lock down is lifted . That is a lot of “gone for good” jobs with nothing to replace them and keep in mind, baring import bans of tariff , US companies… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  abprosper
4 years ago

I’m hopeful that if Trump is willing to impose animmigration moratorium, he will be willing to impose protective tariffs.

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Nice; I’m paying almost double that, and it’s essentially unchanged from February.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

I can empathize. Where I live the average is $2.65 for regular, I hop over the state line and drive ten more minutes there are three gas stations where the price for a gallon of regular is anywhere from $1.83, to $1.91. It’s inexcusable. I get lotto from one of the other stations and I asked the manager of the station why the big disparity compared to next door and was told that the owner of the station will not lower the price. The guy couldn’t say why.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

Are you in one of the People’s Republic states, Meme? If so, our condolences.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

In the $1.81-$2.01 range in eastern Morris and western Essex and Passaic Counties, NJ, but prices vary widely throughout NJ. No doubt there will be an increase in the gas tax.

T. Morris
T. Morris
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

$1.19 here, and steadily decreasing by the week.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

0.87 at the rez near me. Still over $2 on the white man’s land.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

How expensive are those big storage tanks to build?

I’ve heard suggestions of filling up the strategic petroleum reserve to previously unhead-of levels. I also heard that Pelosi fought against it. Seems like that’s something Trump could simply do via executive order on grounds of national security.

The Fed is busily buying up bad debt. Buying up good oil seems like a better deal.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Trump has already been filling the SPR. At these prices, he’ll probably finish the job.

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

The strategic petroleum reserve is mostly held in underground caverns carved out of salt domes… a well is drilled into a dome, and water is pumped in, salt water is pumped out, and the “tank” gets bigger. Relatively quick and cheap to expand existing or new storage tanks.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Yep. And you don’t just ‘shut down’ complex machinery like refineries. Once shut down, restarting is expensive and time consuming. Not as much as say, shutting down a Steel Blast Furnace, Fiberglass Furnace, or Nuke Reactor, but it’s not easy, and it’s expensive.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  BadThinker
4 years ago

But I thought there was just a big switch labelled On/Off on every large scale industrial process.

Surely on May 7th (or whatever) the local health supervisor can walk in and on a televised ceremony push the switch to On.

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  thezman
4 years ago

Doesn’t oil left in the ground constitute “storage”? Where it’s been “stored” since it was created? The energy industry will have to adjust, sure, but that’s what creative destruction and bankruptcy are for, right?

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

It does not mean free energy by any stretch. The actual price paid by consumers and businesses after it is refined, has not fallen that much. Gas is still $1.8/gallon and much more expensive elsewhere in the world.
. Cheaper oil can mean higher profits for refiners , not necessarily lower prices for businesses and consumers.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  greyenlightenment
4 years ago

Gas is still $1.8/gallon and much more expensive elsewhere in the world.

Read up to some replies to me. Gas prices aren’t holding high everywhere.Street price has fallen drastically in some areas, and that certainly means it has dropped heavily for companies that buy fuel in bulk.

greyenlightenment
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

it says right here. it is called an average because some will be lower https://gasprices.aaa.com/

MemeWarVet
MemeWarVet
Reply to  greyenlightenment
4 years ago

I ran the numbers using that link and the cost at the pump where I live has dropped a whopping 12% over the last month

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

12% adds up from a business perspective. Got a lot of investments paying you 12%? Fantastic deal.

A fixed expense that costs you 12% is less is like earning that much more in profit.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  MemeWarVet
4 years ago

I’m in Cali and most of what we pay is tax and formulation variants. Its still down around 10% or so.

Sandmich
Sandmich
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

Yup. You people who haven’t seen the price move: you’re getting screwed.

Member
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

You’re probably thinking of the early industrial revolution and that was certainly true then. The current energy glut though, is politically manufactured and the same political authoritarianism that created it will suppress the kinds of growth that might make life better. Think of how the Soviet Union had absurd amounts of natural resources available to it and yet remained poor and unproductive.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

I’m not just thinking of that. I’m thinking of the widespread adoption of coal as an energy source. I ‘m thinking of the steam engine, which while it wasn’t a new energy source, brought portable, consistent power to wherever the user needed — it was the first time portable multi-purpose power wasn’t muscle-powered. Every time man has been able to bring more energy to more people cheaper, it has been a good thing. I agree that there will be forces trying to suppress the growth, but I think that has always been true. The glut may be politically manufactured, but… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

In the UK they have made it illegal for private homes to burn coal or unseasoned wood on any open fire/burner or to generate electricity.

I am sure its just co-incidental that this occurs now?

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
4 years ago

The liberal mind at work. My brother and his wife, who live in Georgia, announced to me and my sibs that they will not be venturing out as Georgia reopens. None of the rest of us lives there and nobody asked. Three (of four) of the rest of us think it was foolish all along to gut the economy. But you just know how smug they feel sitting in their virtue. I wrote back that I’m happy to be working in a county that has had one death supposedly due to Xi’s flu and where we’ve already hit 90 degrees.… Read more »

Frip
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

“That’s only 45% of a normal flu year, so Covid is still stuck in Double A ball.” LOL, nicely put. Really? Few people in Georgia supermarkets in masks? That’d be considered highly bogus here in SoCal. Everyone wears one. Well, it’s law. Even in Home Depot. I tried to walk in through the garden center yesterday…ignoring the sign that said “enter through main entrance only”…to be stopped by a lady in charge of door entry. So I walked to the main entrance. No one was allowed in without a mask. They had a big black guy (smart) turning people away… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

Your last paragraph really nails it.

Even with the ridiculously juiced death numbers for Covid-1984, it’s not even just the flu, bro.

tristan
tristan
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 years ago

Maybe you could suggest they shoot themselves to save the community and keep the world safe for future generations?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

Mass media is mass propaganda, financed by corporate ad dollars. I wonder if a giant society like America can exist without some mass media creating an ‘official shared narrative.’ Back in the day, common religion, political beliefs and general culture probably did this but they obviously can’t do the job anymore. Without Hollywood and MSM, would America even be ‘one society’ in ANY meaningful sense. This is not to defend either, I know exactly what they are and they perversely seem to fit a society in deep, deep trouble in their current form. But I also wonder if America even… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

I wonder if a giant society like America can exist without some mass media creating an ‘official shared narrative.’ The US prior to the 1910s indicates the answer is “Yes.” It would just be a giant society that functions mostly through localism, as it should. Of course there were exercises in mass propaganda prior to that such as in the leadup to the civil war, but efforts line that were difficult. You couldn’t make every facet of daily life the object of a propaganda campaign the way you can today. Only Churches had the power to bring their message consistently… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Vizzini
4 years ago

I think there was an official shared narrative back then, a mix of Christianity, very strong commitment to ‘American ideals’, ie strong civ nat, and also 90% were white.

Today none of these could ‘bring the country together’. And accordingly it does seem to be coming apart.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

Who, whom.

Who controls the shared narrative and upon whom is it being imposed? That’s the difference.

In the days when religion imposed the shared narrative, it was imposed upon the great as well as the small.

Note: I’m not disagreeing with you.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

Multiculti is what Balkanized America.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 years ago

(((Special people))) agitated for multiculti for decades and control it still today. Who, whom, as always.

Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 years ago

I’ve been trying to explain The Panic to myself for the last few weeks. It’s easy to just pin it all on the media but the media routinely throws out panic-bait about all sorts of stuff ranging from guns to climate change to “deadbeat dads”. Thankfully most of these campaigns fizzle and normal life goes on. Why did this one take hold so fast and so well? It might simply be that people (particularly women and feminized men) suddenly had a grand collective ritual to participate in and feel like they were part of something. The “general culture” in fact… Read more »

Bill_Mullins
Member
Reply to  pozymandias
4 years ago

This is likely to be a very bad thing and could be the first shot in a sort of modern Cultural Revolution complete with gangs of Red Guard types enforcing the 6 foot rule and beating people who don’t have masks. So THAT’S where the hoodie-clad antifa thugs fit in! Fortunately for us (UNfortunately for them, heh,heh) we’re much better armed than the Chinese peasants were. Wasn’t it Chairman Mao who said something about power flowing from the barrel of a gun? Antifa weenies are more likely to carry an umbrella than a gun. I reckon they’d piss/soil themselves if… Read more »

Epaminondas
Member
4 years ago

The Foundation Trilogy by Asimov was one of my favorites in high school. I’m glad Zman referenced it. Replace the Mule with the Hive Mind and you have a good approximation to how chaos is “managed”. Except that we now have a Disrupter-in-Chief. The Hive Mind just stepped on a rake and is reassessing its prospects in the light of this new reality. Good stuff. Strap yourself in.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Epaminondas
4 years ago

I wouldn’t write the Hive Mind off just yet. It is clear they are already busy pushing several different new narrative threads to keep the fear levels up. Those threads include the second wave, reopening too soon, and virus mutation. I’m doing my best to live as normally as possible and avoid any engagement with hysterics. For now, I’ll put on a face-covering if it means I can purchase groceries without being confronted by some hero or some ninny calling the local Gestapo on their smartphone. There is no point in debating the hysterics. They have completely drunk the Flavor-Aid… Read more »

Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

What about confronting, questioning, and ridiculing the hysterics? I find it to be therapeutic.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Libertymike
4 years ago

I don’t see that working because the hysterics vastly outnumber the sane at this point. Be prepared to be mobbed by them online or in meatspace.

The entire Covid-1984 atmosphere proves the hysterics are firmly in control.

Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Covid-1984!!

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

I think we should push back in whatever way we can. Protests included. The death projections have decreased steadily, but the restrictions are getting more stringent.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

Wasting your time. Emotions rule them. fear has always been the go to for tyrants and manipulators to control people.

Fear is the Mind Killer as the Bene Gesserit say in Dune. This is a truism.

Rwc1963
Rwc1963
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 years ago

The problem is if the shut down continues for much longer we will start seeing other sorts of shortages like food. And you really don’t want to see how people react when the shelves stay empty. They will take out their anger on the nearest a**hole Karen and leveler they can find. Empty stomachs don’t fear they just get increasingly murderous. In general it’s a bad idea in a country awash in guns and unemployed people who are already sweating bullets in making their mortgage payments to piss them off even further. The lies don’t fly with them and they… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
4 years ago

There is also the idea that the first mouse springs the trap on himself, and the second mouse helps himself to the cheese. Part of navigating these times is to try to be the second mouse, not the first mouse.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Dutch
4 years ago

Haha!
“Grab the bag!” has become “Get the cheese!”

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
4 years ago

We are just starting to have fun. Power vacuum in North Korea! As I said a time or two, all the 80s kids know this story. It starts with global economic collapse, and ends in global thermonuclear war. Then you open: a highway. Raiders in tribally-festooned rat rods are chasing down our hero… All we missed was it’s China with the nukes instead of the Russkies. CCP, not CCCP. An understandable mistake. Oh, and that it starts with a flu-season-based mother-of-all-PsyOps campaign strategy? Because, it says here, Donald Trump is the President? Like, Trump Tower Donald Trump? Yeah, too crazy… Read more »

M. B. Lamar
M. B. Lamar
Reply to  M. B. Lamar
4 years ago

Never mind about the NK part – it looks increasingly like it is today’s bald-faced lie from the scurrilous MSM.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 years ago

It’s happening because it had to happen. No deus ex. Nobody blew off pressure so now it explodes. We’ll get a leftist backlash and all the knee-jerk anticommunists will get their kicks, then the right wing strongman to purge society, then we get to start over. About a decade, give or take, I’ll bet.

DR gets the opportunity it wants. It’ll hurt, but that’s how it goes. Put your thinking caps on!

BTP
Member
4 years ago

Trump is an apocalyptic figure – there’s no getting around it. But one thing about every good apocalypse is that everything that is hidden becomes revealed. It’s what we are seeing now with the entire establishment.

Also, apocalypses are really hell on your 401(k).

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
4 years ago

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to invest in integrated oil companies. They’ll be money machines going forward, especially as inflation kicks up in coming years. Buy when there’s blood in the streets as Rothschild said. My favorite article this week: https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/news/de-blasio-promises-ticker-tape-parade-after-pandemic Ahhhh yes! Heroes! All of them! We’ve had the “thin green line” securin’ the homeland in Iraq, then we’ve had the “thin blue line” selflessly keepin’ us safe. Now we have the “thin aqua line” who “kept us safe from the mean virus” (even though 99% of people who got it were kept safe with lemon… Read more »

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

The veneration of healthcare workers is most annoying to me. They’re all moral authorities now. They’re even being employed to block off protesters. I think it’s an important part of the plan. The state and media need a large, prestigious sect of the public as allies. They’re our soldiers now — and you DO support the troops, right? Addendum: I’m losing my mind by gayness again. I was watching BBC Arabic, and this Spanish video comes on of all these dancing, ponce doctors singing “You have to stay in your house! La la la la!” THAT’S the stuff they think… Read more »

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Yep. As the healthcare industrial complex stacks in more and more childlike brown people from exotic locations like every other industry. And the freaks they have taking care of people. If you walk into a hospital you realize how quickly the latinos are going gay.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

The most appalling thing about going into a hospital is that a large majority of the “health care professionals” display no concern for their own health and appearance. All I see among the nursing crowd are jelly rolls under pajamas.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

When Rush said that they’re turning the frogs gay, he actually (in a metaphorical sense) wasn’t wrong. It’s like a race to the rainbow finishline. Who can do the greatest Richard Simmons impression while hopping on one foot and simultaneously admonishing the protesters?

How are these goofy losers BEATING us? How?

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Alex Jones, not Rush*

And definitely not THIS rush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIGKlicb8n0

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Rush .. Working Man Music and Lyrics: Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson **** I get up at seven, yeah, and I go to work at nine. I got no time for livin’. Yes, I’m workin’ all the time. It seems to me I could live my life a lot better than I think I am. I guess that’s why they call me, they call me the workin’ man. They call me the workin’ man. I guess that’s what I am. I get home at five o’clock, and I take myself out a nice, cold beer. Always seem to be wond’rin’… Read more »

tristan
tristan
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

Because you only need a few smart herders. Then simply by turning the herd and stampeding in any chosen direction anyone standing in the way will get crushed.

Its like a giant hammer that can be turned using media in any desired direction at will (look at this crap – 5 weeks in and every social convention for the last thousand years has gone out of the window as if it never existed).

And given its hammer its only action is to smash things. People think the other target deserves it until its focused on you.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Lawdog
4 years ago

The adulation shown towards everyone from health care workers to cashiers is a symptom that we’ve removed God and spirituality from our world. In 1958, those spared by the influenza knelt by their beds or in the church of their choice and thanked the Almighty for what blessings and mercy He may have bestowed on them. Today, we deify the earthly among us and wag our tails at them, hoping to get a pat on the head. It’s much easier to get that dopamine rush of sanctity when you can choose your Gods from among those easily flattered.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

That’s been my impression this this whole virus scare. It’s like the powers-that-be all looked up the the heavens, started shaking their fists at God, and declared war on death itself. Like building a sandcastle on the beach.

WhereAreTheVikings
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
4 years ago

The personal injury lawyers declared war on death as well as life, with all its bad luck and pitfalls, long ago. Now there are warnings on everything. Devolution can be blamed on this in part, as well as the populace’s lack of survival skills. This current madness is the culmination of the PI attorneys’ mischief, people thinking they should never experience pain or sadness or loss. Or death.

Lawdog
Lawdog
Member
Reply to  WhereAreTheVikings
4 years ago

Yeah, I think that’s a big part of it. There’s a commercial for a medicine that treats old people disorder where this lady says, “I’m only in my 60s. Big plans!”

tristan
tristan
Reply to  KGB
4 years ago

If you notice it also cleverly bypasses nationalism as a rallying point.

No more rally round the flag. Rally round institutions or abstract sectors.

Karl McHungus
Karl McHungus
4 years ago

jeebus, immigration shut down. my take on things is Trump is gearing up for war with the PRC. all of the virus panic was used as a drill for co-ordinating during actual war. find all the rough spots and sand them down, shake out the rust. his second term is going to be one giant infrastructure program, paid for by chinese reparations over virus damage. and the dems are over on the sideline acting like booger eating retards…

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 years ago

Karl; I fear you might be right about the war with the PRC being in the offing. The stuff we *know*^ they did is pretty close to the ‘deliberate act of war’ line. If the virus was from a People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Offensive BioWeapons Program, *and this could be proven*, it’s hard to see the situation not getting kinetic at some point in the near future. This would be true even if the virus’ release was accidental. At this point who’d believe the ChiComs even if they fessed up and claimed accidental release, Suspicions are rightly high because the… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Al from da Nort
4 years ago

“No better way to end a global depression than a world war”- we’ve seen that before.
Perhaps we’re being herded again.

Evidence: “Chinese money controls Hollywood!” with no mention of who’s raking in all that sweet Chinese money.

Sure they do, bub. Chinese scriptwriters everywhere.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

Not that I don’t agree, to a limited extent.

The Han are clearly Infected by “demons”- their cruelty, callousness, and the unspeakable barbarity in those wet markets prove it so.

I wish no ill will or suffering on any living thing, but if a population is highly susceptible to contagion, it must be contained.

To our great misfortune, they’ll be put out to pasture by the ruling demons that raised them up- their use in pulling down the West is near an end.

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet.

No demons required

abprosper
abprosper
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 years ago

There are lots of movies made for the international market and of you know what to look for, you can tell Hollywood from Beijing pretty easily.

China paid for movies are cleaner with no sex and simpler plots.

A current example is Axl whose author noted being funded by Chinese interests. You can tell from the trailer, edgy, dope imagery. The actual movie, no drugs, very 80’s

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Karl McHungus
4 years ago

Karl- Don’t disagree with you. I think that the PRC is looking to seize Taiwan because of its strategic importance to the West. That tiny little island of 23 million punches two or three orders of magnitude above its weight with regard to microelectronics and semiconductor fabrication. Part of me believes that the very public stories about carriers in crisis is bait to draw the mainland into showing a few of its cards. Local air superiority is no longer a forgone conclusion for Taiwan and 2 or 3 USN carriers. The PLA Air Force has a large inventory of fighter… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
4 years ago

You’ve correctly noticed that Red-Team and Blue-Team are not [two sides of the same coin] but actually the same side of the same coin. As far as them going against what the voters voted for, one only need look at the votes against legalizing [gay] sodomized marriage, which were quickly overruled by courts. Other examples of Federal and local governments going against the will of the [people] subjects are rife. Oil futures were traded at historic lows, which is just the way futures trade — they beome worthless the moment they expire — but the more important data point is… Read more »

Bill_Mullins
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Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
4 years ago

I read somewhere that goatse is dead. Apparently he attempted anal intercourse with a horse and expired of complications resulting from a ruptured colon. Seems somebody thrust a bit too forcibly.

Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Ris_Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
4 years ago

I hit the link and read what those terms referred to and now am a worse person for knowing.

Penitent Man
Penitent Man
Reply to  Ris_Eruwaedhiel
4 years ago

I’ve read Ris_ for awhile and he seems like a sensible fellah. I’ll take the pass, thank you.

Mikep
Mikep
Reply to  Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
4 years ago

OK you added the link, now how do I get those images out of my head?

Jim Smith
Jim Smith
Reply to  Mikep
4 years ago

Sorry, what has been seen cannot be unseen. Thanks though for the warning: You enabled me to avoid seeing it.