One of the enduring truths about war is that the side that wins is usually the side that starts with a clear objective. That understanding of the goal allows for a strategy to accomplish the goal, which then becomes the framework for the tactics required to implement the strategy and win the war. Starting with the end in mind also allows for changes in strategy and tactics to account for the unknown unknowns that are always a part of a military conflict. No plan survives contact with the enemy.
We may be about to see this in the Ukraine war. From the start the Russians have had a very clear understanding of their interests in Ukraine. This predates the war by about a thousand years. Russia is a land power without natural barriers between itself and its neighbors, so the goal of Russian foreign policy since forever has been to maintain space between Russia and its neighbors. The Ukraine has always been part of that space controlled by the Russians.
This is why the Russians had clear demands at the start of the war. They wanted the Russian speaking areas liberated from Ukrainian control, they wanted Ukraine demilitarized and they wanted NATO out of Ukraine. When the war started, these goals did not have to change as they were the reason for the war. The Russians would simply have to do what was necessary to impose these ends. In other words, once the war started, the question was how not why.
This was not true on the other side. Ukraine did not want to go to war and was ready to take the deal on offer, until Washington sent Boris Johnson in to convince Zelensky to go to war in exchange for unlimited money and supplies. Ukraine started the war without any clear idea as to why they were fighting it because they had no clear objective, other than graft. Despite the rhetoric, “not losing” is not a goal that can lead to a successful and coherent war strategy.
The West has had a similar problem. Note that no one in the West is ever asked by the media why they are doing this. The reason for that is the answer would be incoherent jibber-jabber about abstract assertions. Defending a notorious kleptocracy in defense of democracy is obvious nonsense. The neocons, of course, have a real goal, but telling the world they want to bring about the end times is not good politics, so everyone just dances around the fact that there is no stated goal.
This is why the West is headed to a crisis over the war. Without a clear goal, there is no way to measure success. Without a way to measure success, there is no way to anticipate failure and adjust to it. The Russians avoided this my seeing early on that they had grossly miscalculated. They could see this because they had a clear understanding of what they wanted to achieve in the war. They set off on a yearlong process to revamp their strategy and tactics.
It is becoming clear even to the zombies in the Western media that Ukraine is going to lose the war on the battlefield. The Russians have been grinding away across the front and are now making increasingly swift advances. The reason for this is Ukraine is running out of men and material. Meanwhile, the Russian war machine continues to grow in size and lethality. There is growing speculation that the Russians are preparing a hammer blow this summer to break the Ukrainian army.
This is why we are seeing a growing panic in the West. They never imagined this as a possible outcome because they never thought about the end. They just assumed they could wish a loss on the Russians. It seems many in the West still think they can wish hard enough to change reality on the battlefield. The French actually initiated a call with the Russians, demanding the Russians quit and go home. Now the French want to send troops into Ukraine, which would be an act of madness.
Assuming the lunatics do not prevail and there is no nuclear war with Russia, the question now is what comes next? The one thing we know is the West will not have a lot of say in the outcome. This is not just because they are losing but primarily because they never imagined such a possibility. The reason for that is they have never been honest with themselves about why they are poking the bear. Like all the other pointless wars of choice, this one will end in adverse terms.
That is the question that will come to dominate this year. The Russians do have a plan and they have the means to implement it. While the Russians have not talked about what comes next, it is clear they will turn Ukraine into a demilitarized buffer zone with a government friendly to Moscow. This was the end they had in mind at the start of the war because it has been the Russian national interest for a millennium. How much of Ukraine remains in Ukraine at the end is unknown.
This is why the West is in a crisis. This war will make clear to everyone, especially Western citizens, that the West is in decline. France, Germany, and Britain are now on the same level as Denmark and Ecuador, as far as geopolitics. The real global powers will want to have friendly relations, but they will not consider them peers. In the new multipolar world, Europe is not one of the poles. Proof of that will be Russia dictating terms to the Europeans as to their future relations.
The psychological struggle that is about to unfold in the West is what is the great unknown in what is about to come. How will the typical Frenchman react when he realizes he is a citizen of a pipsqueak country? How will the typical flag-waving American feel when he realizes he no longer lives in a superpower, but in a regional power that is in steep decline? American exceptionalism takes on a whole new meaning when you are on the losing side of history.
The point is the end game in the Ukraine war will turn out to be much more than the final disposition of the country currently called Ukraine. The end game will be a reordering of the world and a necessary reordering of the Western view of itself and its role in the world. In other words, we are about to see a revolution in worldview, one no one anticipated in the West. Maybe this is why so many Western leaders seem to want a nuclear war. They cannot face what comes next.
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I see Generalissimo Zelenskyy has bought King Charles’ former summer residence. With the King, Princess Kate, and Prince Harry out of the picture, I suspect the next front of the war will be the Conquest of England. Zelenskyy, then, might become the Lucifer (high chamberlain) to King William. White children are 3% of the global child population. That means the next generation of fighting age white males are 1.5 percent. Add in the unknown rates of Covid sterilization of this and the next generation of fertile white females, the picture is worse. Shedding and culture war add to this. The… Read more »
(A side note is that South America is also being colonized, as she was post-1492 Spain for slave plantations of supplying timber for naval ships, quinine for explorers, spices, drugs, food, and silver, by Tribal satraps such as in Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico. At the same time, their conquistadores are coming north.)
Yep, yep and yep. The marches have always been important for Russia. I not going to bother looking up the exact number but for well over half a century preceding WW II, Russia didn’t have one generation without a foreign invader on her soil. & yep, it was a terrible mistake driving Russia out of the west in to the orient, good for Russia, bad for us in the short run. However if we don’t go ah nuking, it just might make America if not great, at least not so shabby, while making our elite class grate, if not lamp… Read more »
The war has been a brilliant success. And it is now on the cusp of its crowning achievement, global war between the West and Russia. This has always been the goal, a replacement for Lockdown Theater, with War with Russia as the goal. The goal to allow the fig leaf (always vital for them) to crack down and rule by brutal force. “Winning” in Ukraine has never been the issue. The issue has been a draft, military rule, and unfettered hereditary bureaucratic rule by Karens and such. The “natural authority” of black Lesbians and War Karens. Think Gretchen Whitmer outlawing… Read more »
They tried that already during 9/11 Iraq Etc. There is a reason so many movies of recent decades spoof 1940s newsreel war propaganda. It is because the aesthetic easily earns cheap laughs from the kids these days. There will be no woke version of “Over There” Capra-corn mobilization of the homefront, which again, had flopped when supposed genius Karl Rove pimped it in service of “realignment” schemes. A weird Islam/Latin-inflected answer to the last time DNC was in Chicago, a round-the-clock live-stream Days Of Rage scenario in every big city, is far more likely than what you prophesize. We all… Read more »
Not surprising that the money changers thought they could win the war by money changing.
I have to take issue with one thing (what a surprise, I know). The idea that Russia is going to leave a “rump Ukraine” or a “buffer zone” behind to cause trouble in the future is one of the strangest tropes current in the alternative news and opinion community today. We all have to be cleareyed about this: There is absolutely no scenario whatsoever under which leaving any of Ukraine intact does not simply duplicate the exact same conditions that led to the war in the first place. Russia will end up completely destroying the current Kievan regime and conquering… Read more »
If Russia wins handedly, my guess is that Poland could be coerced to leave NATO along with Hungary. Thereby creating a de facto buffer zone. And when I say handedly I mean to an extent where a country like Poland looks at its two hands, one holding America and one holding Russia and then has to make a decision as to who it wants be allied with. Who in fact can protect it? If America is exposed as a paper tiger, I would think new arrangements such as this start happening. and perhaps create a domino effect.
You’re crediting the Poles with too much common sense and realism.
One of the great maxims of Continental politics is to never underestimate the ability of the Poles to do the wrong thing at the moment best suited to @$%^ things up for the most people(s).
Honourable exceptions for showing up at the Siege of Vienna and for stopping the Red Cavalry in 1920.
Not to mention the timely intervention of the “winged cavalry” in relieving the siege of Vienna in 1683, which forced the Ottomans to flee posthaste, leaving this powdery dark brown stuff behind, allowing Central Europe to transform it into a rich, more refined beverage. Anyway, rumour has it that Poland’s Law & Justice party prevailed in local elections, so the Euroscepticism isn’t dead there. Yet.
“It’s the question that motivates my frustration with the pace of the SloMO.” I think the slow pace is do to Russia being content with the Ukrainians sending their men into impossible battles to try to gain territory and getting slaughtered in the process. Russia has reduced its manpower losses significantly using this approach. They are slowly gaining territory while keeping their losses in manpower and equipment to a minimum. Meanwhile, Ukraine is losing men and equipment at an astounding (and unsustainable) rate. There is no reason for Russia to be in a hurry. When your enemy is busy destroying… Read more »
Think of it as a wood chipper or meat grinder – you shove too much in at once, and it jams or clogs. But a steady pace of feeding material gets the job done. From what I gather, the Russians are at a good pace of destruction vs. supply replacement. Don’t want to get out ahead of yourself.
Perhaps, or perhaps they leave what’s left of Ukraine with a friendly (to Russia) government as was the case before CIA intervention in 2014 and seemed to work quite well previously for the USSR in the Warsaw Pact countries after WWII. Those silly people in Hungry for example decided to run their own country in 1954 and were promptly slapped down with a Soviet invasion.
ID, your lack of understanding is legendary here and your bad mouthing of this group and our host in Unz has been revealed for all to read. Go away.
Russia realizes that the total conquest of Ukraine is not the end of anything. So why hurry to that point, when the current situation depletes the west’s stockpiles more every day
I don’t disagree with you, but here’s the counter weight that the Russians are likely considering. Western Ukraine is filled with legitimate Ukrainian nationalists. When we talk about Azov and right sector, they’re almost exclusively from this part of the country. The majority of the East welcomes Russia as liberators, this isn’t true west of the Dneiper. An occupation would risk a low level guerilla war in this part of the country, and these grind down even superpowers (see Afghanistan vs USSR and USA, Iraq, etc). Maybe they are planning on occupying, and this is their reason for trying to… Read more »
“It’s the question that motivates my frustration with the pace of the SloMO. Does Russia not realize this and still hopes for some kind of détente with the West, or does Russia realize this and is playing 5D chess?”
russia doesn’t want nuclear war and it doesn’t want human loses(cause russian women don’t make babies), so it has to move slow and act diplomatic.
Many reasons, of course. The big one that our guys typically ignore is that a war between the West and Putin is a war between the West and a “westaboo,” a deep unrequited lover of globohomo. That’s why it took him so long to recognize that the war had begun years ago, why he only very belatedly admits, under incredible duress, that he’s the relative good guy, why the grinder will grind on for practically ever to give the wronging lover another and another chance until the end of the world. The conflict ends when one of parties to it… Read more »
Ukraine is a battle in a war stretching back to antiquity, a civil war between Goblins who seek a world Goblin imperium vs humanity wishing a national sovereignty to live normal decent lives. To say the “west” is at war with Russia is to pass off Blinken, Nuland, Mayorkas, Yellen, Garland as westerners; they are not. The United States is a Goblin Occupied Government. Our system is Goblinism. GOGs get established and maintained by the likes of Epsteins, Lanskeys, perfidious publications. Having achieved GOGness over the US, it simple grows by utilizing strong arm tactics against any place that it… Read more »
It’s hard for the civilized mind to envision what primitives these are, but you bet your bottom dollar that if Egypt were wealthy that they’d be putting pressure on them to get royalties from tourism the Pyramids bring in.
Now that you mention it, Yellen really does look like a goblin. And that’s not an age thing, she looked like one when she was young too.
She does. Another one of the most goblin-y is Jonathan Greenblatt.
I’m wondering now if Europe turns away from America and sides with Russia. Because they are going to need Russia as a protector.
I know China is not a real military threat, but my guess is Europe, if anything, is going to want to have some muscle between it and China anyway. Just makes sense.
Plus Russia could kick America’s ass in a real war. So no one really needs the headache and the sanctimony anymore coming from here. Perhaps America turns to pushing around countries in central and South America and drifts ever more away from Europe?
Europe will end up siding with Russia but not for fear of China. Europe will side with Russia because Russia is its natural, low-cost energy supplier and economic partner, and because without the American hegemon Europe is too much of a basket case to rule itself and needs an external source of order. I also happen to believe, as a purely private matter, that the Third Secret of Fatima will be fulfilled by a Russian patriarch converting to Catholicism and taking over the See of Peter, thus restoring Apostolic Succession to the Roman Church (who lost it at Vatican II).… Read more »
you do realize catholic organizations are just as responsible as js in bringing in muslims and blacks into western countries.
virgin mary making an apparition in a town called fatima, which is an islamic figure for people who don’t know, implies the whole event was a psyop, these are the two holiest women in islam.
obviously ‘someone’ is trying to fuse islam and christianity together, under vatican and israeli rule to create a new religion.
converting to catholicism = converting to new world order religion.
I have come around to the idea that Catholicism is a necessary antidote to any people who live among the JJJs. It’s something you need in the first aid kit if you go out into the world and deal with things that can bite you and get you seriously ill. No JJJs and really no need for Catholicism. I wish it weren’t so. I wish there was a place for the RCC that could thrive independently of the JJJs, but I do not see it. And as go the JJJs goes the necessity for a Catholic Church as the natural… Read more »
“I’m wondering now if Europe turns away from America and sides with Russia. Because they are going to need Russia as a protector.”
yes, when it comes to countries like austria, hungary, serbia and finland.
but the big ones: britain, france, italy, those are fucked.
Europe will find its new protector in whoever conquers it. It no longer knows how to do anything else.
Given the number of Muslims Europe has been letting in they will either become Russian client states or part of new Ottoman style Caliphate.
Italy, for one, will side with Russia in a heartbeat. You could push it over with a feather to Russia’s side.
Its alliance with the USA has always been fraught with doubts and unease and has always been, to my mind, a shotgun marriage. I am sure Spain and Portugal and Greece will follow. Greece especially given the Orthodox ties. Next to fall will be the Baltics and Scandinavian countries. Ireland. France. Last one standing astride the USA ultimately will be England. At least how I see it. FWIW
baltics and scandinavian countries will get occupied cause russia needs to get rid of nato at its borders.
but russia won’t send troops to italy and ireland, it don’t matter how pro russian the people are.
those countries will need to fight for themselves, no one’s coming to save them.
If we rebel against the US we will get carpet boom and colour revolution up the ass.
The Ukraine “strategy” reminds me of the US strategy in the Vietnam War: keep the war going and hope the North Vietnamese will give up eventually.
The US strategy in Vietnam was that Ho would give up in fear once we demonstrated we were serious.
And how did we plan to demonstrate that we were serious? Simple. Get our guys killed in meaningless forays out of FOBs while the REMFs changed the culture in Saigon. Show “we” aren’t afraid to sacrifice, and once Ho grasps that essential fact, he will have to quit.
Didn’t work then. Didn’t work in Iraq. Didn’t work in Afghanistan.
Never again.
“The Ukraine ‘strategy’ reminds me of the US strategy in the Vietnam War: keep the war going and hope the North Vietnamese will give up eventually.” “The US strategy in Vietnam was that Ho would give up in fear once we demonstrated we were serious.” History repeats. Ho Chi Minh initially approached the USA to be its ally(to rid Vietnam of its French Colonizers ). The USA chose to go to war against North Vietnam instead using South Vietnam as its proxy. Initially Putin approached the “West” to be a part of NATO. The USA chose to foment a war… Read more »
It’s going to be interesting to see what happens to spending on things like the military. The IC and FBI/DOJ can blackmail everyone to get what they want. Tougher for the military to do that. You can’t lose three wars in 24 years, and have your Navy threatened by a bunch of goat herders flying drones, and there not be consequences for those failures. Also note that Sec of State Blinken made public statements last week that Ukraine will be in NATO which were followed QUICKLY by the NATO General Secretary stating that Ukraine will *not* be in NATO. We’ve… Read more »
We do not live in a serious country that has become browner and browner and lower and lower IQ. Did anyone really think there would be no consequences from all of it? We are a nation run by retards with an increasingly retarded population. It was only a matter of time before the rest of the world started realizing that America is nothing but a paper tiger.
“It’s really quite shocking how fast the decline has been since 2001.”
Bin laden accomplished what he set out to do.
Or at least his paymasters did… Watching what the FBI and CIA have been up to in recent years, it is hard to not to think they played an active role. My all-time favorite reminder to people about how the Government operates, and it’s a point I’ve been making for 21 years, is that NOBODY WAS FIRED after 9/11. The CIA Director (a Clinton holdover, George Tenet) kept his job. The FBI was moving from Louis Freeh to eventually the execrable Robert Mueller (who took over on 9/4/11). Nothing but sh*tbags. I used to think there was no chance it… Read more »
Let’s not forget military intelligence, who try to work the governments in the imperial satrapies. They circulate back home, where they are likely to encounter less counterintel.
“Without a clear goal, there is no way to measure success.” Sure there is. If viewed as a massive inventory dump, of obsolete equipment, combined with money laundering through the kleptocracy that is known as Ukraine, it all makes perfect sense. “Winning?” Right. How about new orders for equipment, likely combined with the fear-mongering of a ‘new threat from (fill in here)’ to gin it up. Posturing by ‘politicians’ to enhance the threat and save us for our own ‘safety.’ Maybe certain parties snap up land. Others, vulnerable women to exploit. What’s a few dead Slavs when all these fine… Read more »
If viewed as a massive inventory dump, of obsolete equipment, combined with money laundering through the kleptocracy that is known as Ukraine, it all makes perfect sense[…][h]ow about new orders for equipment, likely combined with the fear-mongering of a ‘new threat from (fill in here)’ to gin it up.
“I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209 – renovation program, spare parts for twenty-five years… Who cares if it worked or not?”
– from Robocop (1987)
Me thinks the problem, or at least one, is that the equipment dumped into Ukraine was not necessarily obsolete, but what was touted to be representative of our superior ability when faced with an 1st class opponent. Seems we—the American public—were sold a bill of goods for in part. For example, we didn’t open up the warehouses and send them archaic WWII bazookas, but rather Javelin missiles. Those missiles were not nearly as effective as we were told over the years. More effective antitank weapons are those cheap drones that drop smallish explosives or suicide dives. Those seem not to… Read more »
That’s all well and good in those wars you can walk away from whenever you choose. Ukraine isn’t like that.
Does the imposition of the CBDC panopticon totalitarian regime depend on GAE victory in Ukraine/over Russia? I think maybe it does. Hopefully it does. It seems very difficult, if not impossible, for an openly declining and retreating power to impose a financial tyranny of that nature. It seems that such a system would have to come from a position of strength, not one of weakness. Weakness that will be evident to all in the seemingly inevitable event of a western retreat. I wish I’d saved all the quotes from the Davos types about how victory in Ukraine is imperative and… Read more »
This is an interesting post. In the past decade, Netanyahu has been make the rounds with the power elite, promoting Israel as the center of the new global powers. That is, digital technology taking over from physical wealth creation (oil, gas, minerals and mining, agriculture … …). In the presentations he is promoting Israel as the place where all of the GAE companies making digital hardware and software plant their companies, and it sounds like a silo where all of the data will be stored surveilled … … It is an implicit, sub-text of his talks. Moreover, Israel is engaged… Read more »
“While the Russians have not talked about what comes next, it is clear they will turn Ukraine into a demilitarized buffer zone with a government friendly to Moscow.”
One problem I see with this is that if Russia peels off the pro Russian areas from Ukraine, is there going to be enough of a critical mass of pro-russian people left in rump Ukraine to keep Russian friendly governments in power? Isn’t that why these breakaway regions were grafted onto Ukraine in the first place?
“While the Russians have not talked about what comes next, it is clear they will turn Ukraine into a demilitarized buffer zone with a government friendly to Moscow.”
Hello 1940 Finland, 5/8 of Poland, Bessarabia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, et. al. ….
Gosh, who could have seen this coming?!?
I think they’ll do what they did in Georgia: keep enough of the country to end forever talk about Ukraine joining NATO. The bit of non-Russian Ukraine that is left will have a government living under the Sword of Damocles with Russian holding the sword. The Moscow terror attack might be a sign of things to come. NGO’s operating out of Ukraine with CIA funding launching terrorism against Russia and Russia-controlled Ukraine. The media went to great lengths last week to “debunk” various rumors (some rather silly) that Zelensky was buying property in places like Florida. Most likely that is… Read more »
At this point, the only thing I am concerned about regarding Ukraine is where Zelensky and his coethnic faux-Ukrainians end up, with all their millions, and whether any of the actual Ukrainians scattered by this unnecessary war ever return to Ukraine. I would like to see Zelensky and his Dior-loving wife dropped in the middle of Gaza, and I would like to see the blonde Ukrainian women and children sold off to Arabs freed and returned home.
You’re far too kind 🙂
I can think of many other things I’d like to see happen to Zelensky. It is the same thing I want to see happen to the house members who were bowing down to him and “honoring” him.
Embarrassing.
Russia has a history of going after those gadfly’s who challenge them from afar. Zelensky might escape Ukraine, but will he escape Russian vengeance?
I imagine there’s an icepick with his name on it somewhere in the Kremlin.
Or a steaming hot cup of Polonium tea. Actually, my guess is that one of those Azov Nazis gets some help from the Russians to bump him off.
All the changes to civilization over the last 60 years and before is predicated on “progress” and the superiority of the system over all others.
Despite the decline being noticed by many, the narrative of progress still holds in the minds of most sheeple.
That won’t last.
“Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war.”
I understand there are some interesting things going on in the US and German military these days. The U.S. Navy recently changed its recruiting policy and no longer requires enlistees to have high school diploma or GED. And Navy retirees may be recalled to active duty. That’s really convenient considering how many military-aged illegals just crossed the border in the last three years. Like G. W. Bush did during the Gulf War, non-US citizens will be granted citizenship if they sign up. I could imagine the other services will do the same thing to recover their dismal recruiting levels. The… Read more »
It’s only one B-1 to replace another one damaged beyond repair:
https://www.twz.com/air/b-1b-lancelot-is-being-resurrected-for-active-service
The B-52’s are bring re-fit w/ new engines and avionics to bridge the gap until ‘enough’ B-21’s enter service. This has been a decade in the making:
https://www.twz.com/our-first-look-at-what-fully-upgraded-b-52-bombers-will-look-like
Overall, it seems like it is about lack of quantity and a low readiness rate among the existing craft in operation. All 3 types in service are long in the tooth, but unlike the B-1 & B-2, the B-52 is simple enough to endure a while longer with some improvements.
Why would immivaders join the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire’s military and risk getting blown to bits in some place they’ve never heard of in exchange for citizenship, which they already enjoy most of the citizen’s emoluments by virtue of being illegal aliens?
“when” instead of “which”
I’d give Compsci’s left ball for an editing function on this blog.
B-52 commissioning is by treaty with Russia—whatever that means these days. We are allowed something like 50 functional and another 50 in the boneyard (I live next door to it). If one of the active fleet is lost, by treaty, a bone yard one can be put into service. The B1 bombers fill the boneyard, but the total fleet was 100 and a few of them were lost over the years. What it takes to recommission them, I can’t say. Worse still, is the remaining fleet of Warthogs—less than 200 (out of 700-900) and the Air Force wants those decommissioned.… Read more »
Yeah, taking the nukes out of the B-1’s was part of START IIRC. B-52’s being the oldest & slowest were left largely alone and I bet B-2 limits weren’t even on the table. However, to Karl’s point, since neither treaty adherence nor discretion seem important to certain people, we shouldn’t be shocked if more B-1’s suddenly started getting pulled out of the boneyard and restored to nuclear capability. Because, you know. The A-10’s are deemed as too vulnerable in a peer or near peer arena. Maybe so, but they can operate from darn near anywhere on a shoestring unlike an… Read more »
Just to note that the Navy recruitment plan for those with no high school diploma is that a minimum ASVAB score is still required , meaning that they’re looking for that very thin slice of GAE subjects with the ability to get an imperial diploma (for what that’s worth) but for whatever reason didn’t get one.
Ummm…..Russia is losing badly.
Finland Poland and Sweden are becoming members of NATO.
Russia is expending their forces at an unsustainable rate.
Ukraine is losing soldiers too but they can be replaced by new Ukrainians from the Global South.
April Fool’s day was more than a week ago
Just thought I’d clue you in
That was sarcasm?
Sarcasm or April fools, this posting reads *exactly* like the Ukrainian propaganda videos I see weekly on YouTube. Slava Ukraini! 😉
The cavalier attitude toward nuclear war has delegitimized the GAE. Along with the open borders, which are an abdication of the first obligation of government–to protect its citizens, the right to rule by consent has been forfeited. This does not necessarily mean the GAE will disappear in the near future, or that its grip on power will recede soon. In fact, oppression and irresponsibility are likely to grow worse now. The forfeited agreement to govern through consent probably will give way to rule by brute force in the end stages. We see the outlines of that even now. If Western… Read more »
Crazy Old Man in White House loosened our policy on use of nukes, during 2022.
https://media.defense.gov/2022/Oct/27/2003103845/-1/-1/1/2022-NATIONAL-DEFENSE-STRATEGY-NPR-MDR.PDF
“…he approved a version of a policy from the Obama administration that leaves open the option to use nuclear weapons not only in retaliation to a nuclear attack, but also to respond to non-nuclear threats.”
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-04/news/biden-policy-allows-first-use-nuclear-weapons
Putting aside the open question of whether or how much the “president” actually controls the use of nuclear weapons, I’ve had the impression for a good while now that “Biden” is inspired by/taking a page from Reagan. To wit, propagate and promote the story that this crazy old coot has his finger on the button and just might push it. Whether true or not, it gives one’s adversaries pause. And people wonder why Putin is reluctant to respond to western provocations.
It has an effect, but what effect? If you think he is crazy enough to pre-emptively strike, doesn’t that make it more likely you should pre-emptively strike?
That’s why the range of nukes from target needs to be a far as possible. If too close, the launch on detection of incoming missiles becomes more and more likely. The submarine fleet however makes this impossible it would seem, but still keeping them out of Ukraine is reasonable.
Z: “One of the enduring truths about war is that the side that wins is usually the side that starts with a clear objective.”
Jack Dobson: “…at the end the Regime may go full Scarface, yelling “look, ma, I’m on top of the world” as it engulfs humanity in a fire ball…”
The Regime has a very clear & unambiguous & all-consuming objective here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWiRetxeviw
Tevye: “Someone should have set a match to this place years ago…”
It was Cody Jarrett in White Heat who yelled, “Made it, Ma. Top of the world!” in his final moments. But you’re right, our rulers seem just as touched as Jarrett and just as determined to go out in a blaze of, well, not exactly glory.
Thanks, I got my movie criminals confused there.
I do the same with all the criminals in DC, Wall Street and Hollywood.
“ The cavalier attitude toward nuclear war has delegitimized the GAE.” Anyone who grew up in the Cold War remembers the concern for the “future of humanity” and the handwringing about nuclear weapons that was pervasive through arts, film, and literature. Totally gone now, and it makes me think that they never cared in the first place, and that it was just typical political posturing. They liked the Soviet Union, and now they despise Putin and that is really all it was. The cynic in me suspects that had liberal Carl Sagan survived, even he might be supporting this brinkmanship.… Read more »
Leftists are peaceniks always and only when an R is in the white house
Excellent point, Beefy. And I suspect you’re correct.
I’ve been toying with the idea that the aggressive behavior we see from Jews in business is also the same behavior we’re seeing in our neocon driven foreign policy. Maybe it’s bad to have nukes in the hands of people like this.
After some fair amount of time goes by living with the Sword of Domiciles hanging over your head, you begin to forget about it, just some relic from the distant past that doesn’t feel so fearsome anymore. “Wait till your father gets home!” or “look, the sky is falling!” Cassandra was fated to never be believed.
BB-
I’ve had similar thoughts.
At least in the ’80s, most people seemed to have some concern about dying in a nuclear holocaust.
Now, people just don’t care. Heck, most people don’t even seem aware how close the world is to nuclear annihilation. It’s sickening.
I have written several comments on this topic over the years here, so I will keep this brief. It’s likely that a very large portion of the US nuclear arsenal will be duds because the plutonium triggers will no longer fire. These triggers were built at the Rocky Flats facility outside Boulder, Colorado. The triggers had a 25 year design lifespan. Rocky Flats closed in 1992, which means the newest production run of triggers is 32 years old, and most are much older. The government maintained a test production facility at Sandia Labs in New Mexico, but it’s not big… Read more »
Maybe it really doesn’t matter whether a few bombs fail to detonate. After a full on nuclear war, everybody loses.
That’s just it, as Guest infers, there wouldn’t be one, especially since, as almost everyone suspects, Russia’s arsenal is in pretty much the same sorry shape.
Even before the nuke doesn’t even go off one has to worry if the rocket would even launch (doubtful) and guide itself to the location successfully (ditto). The rumor always was that the sub based nukes were still viable, but that’s looking iffy too after the Brits couldn’t get their tridents to launch properly.
Exactly. My comment was based on information that is entirely in the public domain. No espionage or even a security clearance required to obtain this information.
The old watering hole for the workers there is now operating as the Rocky Flats Beer Garden. Great dive bar with amazing views. Big Wisconsin bar, so a great place to go if you’re a Cheesehead.
Given what we’ve seen from the Russian military so far, I wouldn’t assume their nuke dud rate would be so high in the event of conflict.
I’d also bet their anti-ballistic missile systems are pretty effective.
“Western culture, which is distinct from the Empire…” A very important distinction that should be dispersed far, wide and often. As a long-time ex-pat, I find myself making this point over and over with the folks I know here who often fall into the error of conflating them. I always add that Western culture and the civilization that arose from it will outlast the “Empire”, this latter nothing more than a by-product of a parasitic infestation that will run its course and be anathematized thereafter. The West will abide, albeit in almost certainly a manner well-nigh unimaginable to many of… Read more »
In Japan during the WWII, the military ran the country and turned it into a tyrannical state. The Japanese people were constantly browbeat by propaganda. While at the beginning of the war, Japan’s armed forces won countless victories extolled by propaganda of the defeat of a “lazy, decadent West” by Asians. Then when the tide turned (Midway was an important step, but it was the Solomons Island campaign where Japan lost its experienced aircrews and would never take the offensive again), the propagandists turned defeats into victories, yet they could never explain why Japan was constantly shrinking the boundaries of… Read more »
Agreed. At this point, none of the western country’s gov’ts are running with the approval and consent of their people. Here in Canada, Turdo La Doo is guaranteed a massive loss in the next election. Macrone in Fwance is in a similar boat. Germany and Poland are against further war in the ‘Kraine. These pro-war gov’ts are going to start to fall soon, and not only because of the ‘Kraine. Globohomo Inc’s attacks on industry and agriculture are infuriating the dirt people and their intent in doing so is clear as day. You cannot run a country like this. Rumours… Read more »
Poland (in the sense of its government) is against further war in the Ukraine? That would be welcome news to this European, since all I’m hearing from them is grandstanding rhetoric.
As to the attitude of ordinary Poles, I have no idea.
I agree. The Russian way of war is working so well that I am not sure they need a big arrow offensive. I guess at the point the Ukraine Army is retreating so fast that the Russians can’t keep up, a big offensive may be necessary. Macon’s subordinates talking to Shoigu about freezing the conflict and inserting NATO troops into Western Ukraine will only make the Russians conclude that most of Ukraine must be conquered. It seems to me that NATO wants to put troops into Western Ukraine and either try to end the conflict with a rump Ukraine or… Read more »
Europe should be suspicious of Poland, they’re rearming fast and it’s with designed for offense it seems. They have fantasies of a Baltic to Black empire so its neighbors should be watching them closely. The government is making all the Russia evil noises but I think they have their eyes on the territory of some of their supposed allies. Poles seem to be as deluded as Ukrainians in many ways.
“Note that no one in the West is ever asked by the media why they are doing this. …This is why the West is headed to a crisis over the war. Without a clear goal, there is no way to measure success.” There is no need to ask questions when one already knows the answer: Hitler. Hillary called Putin “Hitler” all the way back in 2014 when the CIA was overthrowing the Yanukovich government: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clintons-putin-hitler-comments-draw-rebukes-as-she-wades-into-ukraine-conflict/2014/03/05/31a748d8-a486-11e3-84d4-e59b1709222c_story.html There is no clear goal and no endgame because ZOG is a totalitarian empire and everything it does is justified by saying “Hitler.” The only… Read more »
Indeed. All, and I do mean all, is justified in the attempt to exterminate the manifold Hitlers and hordes of racists in the world.
There are so many Hitlers out there it’s hard to keep track of them all. Saddam was Hitler. Osama was Hitler. Milosevic was Hitler. Putin is Hitler. Not to mention Uncle A himself.
And… of course, TRUMP is Hitler, too.
And how could I possibly forget… all the seven-year old girls in Gaza are Hitlers, too, every one of them.
Bushitler I & II
And, in all seriousness, I was at a park on the outskirts of Memphis the other day and saw Elvis and Hitler on a seesaw eating ice cream cones. Damnedest thing I’ve ever clapped eyes on.
Ah, yes, thank you. I knew there would be a couple of Hitlers I’d missed, there are just so many.
XMan: “There is no clear goal and no endgame because ZOG is a totalitarian empire and everything it does is justified by saying ‘Hitler.'”
XMan, ZOG has a burning seething all-consuming romantic infatuation with Khazaria. It is their homeland. Their origin. Their mother’s milk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWiRetxeviw
For so long as there are Khazarians & Christians in this world, there will necessarily be WAR.
At the end of this, Poland is who people should watch. They are already making plans to rapidly expand their military and some commentators seem to think they might decide to get some land back of their own. On one side, a country finally footing the bill for defense without tugging the GAE’s apron strings is a huge plus. On the other side, the Poles are not exactly known for smart geopolitics and if they do something dumb, we’ll be pushed into their stupidity.
Putin and Medvedev have made claims about Poland’s ambitions on several occasions.
Well? What sorts of claims?
Of the revanchist sorts – e.g., they are looking to reclaim territory
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-warns-that-ukraine-could-be-invaded-and-occupied-by-poland-2023-7
Sure, but didn’t Poland take a chunk of East Germany after WWII? I seem to remember reading about such a “shift”.
Danzig should never have been given to Poland.
Russia is taking such a long time to beat Ukraine, they have no chance getting through Poland. They’d have more chance of conquering the EU by sending Kadyrov and a few crack troops in a couple of dinghies to land in Belgium and saunter into Brussels while the Eurocrats turn to jelly.
I suspect a Putin is casualty adverse. And why not, he’s bleeding Ukraine dry of military age men.
Chet: Poland, under globalist Donald Tusk, is dangerous. They have drafted a hate-speech law to protect non-Whites and sexual deviants. Tusk shut down opposition media and has gone after nationalist politicians. The Poles want to be part of the cool kids’ club, and Tusk is a favorite in Brussels. The Poles have decided they hate the Russians more than they care about the future of their own people. The media terms this “restoring democracy” after he defeated the “populists.” Now I just hope the rot doesn’t spread further east.
Sounds like an abcessed Tusk needs to be removed from the mouth of the Polish walrus…
Donald Tusk of 2024 is the Wojciech Witold Jaruzelski of 1984. Nothing he does is without the blessing of Da Big Boss. Amazing how “we” became the mirror image of the old adversary.
I posted the same thing above. I wish I had seen yours, it made mine not needed.
“At this moment we want to give the Polish soldier absolute justice. At many points the Pole fought bravely. His lower leadership made desperate efforts, his middle-grade leadership was too unintelligent, his highest leadership was bad, judged by any standard. His organization was — Polish.”
I think you can guess who spoke those words.
It isn’t their land. The reason those people are Greek Catholic is because that was Orthodox land before. Poland took it and tried to convert them to Roman Catholicism. The peasants rebelled and a compromise solution came about where they got to keep all the external trappings of Orthodoxy but fell under the Pope. If you look at how things were last century, those people don’t like Poles any more than they like Russians.
How?
Poland is a pipsqueak when it comes to things like industrial steel production.
They don’t have any kind of printing press like the Germans with their control of the Euro.
Dementia Joe is the poster child of Western decline, and yet there are still tens of millions of Americans who believe that he is the “right man for the job” and want him to return for a second term as president. That alone tells you that we are way way overdue for a culling of the stupid. Even worse, the stupid among us have no friggin idea how stupid they are. They genuinely believe they are on the right side of history, and it will be rainbows and puppy dog tails all the way down. Can you fix stupid that… Read more »
“a culling of the stupid”
Dear god it couldn’t come soon enough.
Posts like these always bother me. Despite the insanity we live in, the world I experience is still pretty good – when one considers historical and global comparisons. People seem to think collapse is some sifting process and that the “good” will remain. Collapse is not likely to usher in a new golden era. “The worst is not so long as we can say, ‘This is the worst.'” To me, this is akin to those who fantasize about zombie apocalypses: One believes they will be the survivor running through the woods with his AK, not recognizing that he will, more… Read more »
The collapse may not occur in social strife, but in an inward repurposing of America in a world of competing powers. True, this is not 100% inevitable, but still a possibility.
For example, the US in response to China and the growing Taiwan threat is subsidizing chip manufacturing over here and thus lessening dependency on a foreign country we cannot or will not defend. The first of 3 such plants here in AZ in now opening for production.
White pill for today…
Big love to AZ. One of my favorite States in the Union!
AZ was in the news today because they have an ancient anti-Abortion law, dating to 1864, which their state Supreme Court just upheld as being constitutional in 2024 [160 years later].
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4230029/posts
It’s well to remind ourselves that collapse means chaos, and people who believe chaos can be tamed to advantage often end by being consumed themselves.
“Fortune is merry, and in this mood will give us anything.” Marc Antony came out on top at that time, but he still met a nasty end trying to ride Fortune past Actium.
But how does your observation fit with the *collapse* of the USSR? 1991- collapse, 2021 – fit to attack Ukraine. 30 years from sub’s rusting away on the beach to hypersonic missiles in theater (which we seem not to have).
Yeah, I know we are not a White ethnostate anymore.
Eloi, no disrespect, but it sounds like you don’t think you’re going to make it to the other side and therefore burying your head in the sand is somehow a benefit. The collapse is coming no matter how you “feel” about it. The evolutionary imperative is to survive this challenge or die and eliminate your genes from the gene pool. Your choice.
I recognize that in chaos, even the strongest person still has to sleep. In a chaotic collapse, odds of your death increase – not decrease. Not sure why you put “feel” as if your statement has less “feel.” Yours is the fantasy of a reset, ignoring that those who dissent are the first to be lined up against the wall. I don’t care about whites in general or society; I care about my kids. And the problem is people seem to think that a collapse is going to benefit whites as a race. This treats history as repeating rather than… Read more »
Allow me to phrase another way: Have you considered that collapse is actually the goal of TPTB? And that the collapse will allow them to better wipe out the whites?
Chaos allows these wicked programs. We will simply be the modern Kulak’s in the NWO.
@Eloi
I recognize that in chaos, even the strongest person still has to sleep.
Exactly which is why if you want your children to have the best chance of survival you need Tribe…
Eloi: You may have it pretty good now – but what of your children and grandchildren 25 years down the road? My husband and I are doing ok, but we worry endlessly about the future our sons and grandson will face, as White heterosexual Christian men. I’d prefer there be a breakdown sooner rather than later in the insanity ruling the West. And no, I have no illusions it will be simple or pretty, but it is unavoidable if Whites are to survive as a people.
That’s the thing right there Sister is who is getting stronger if it drags on and who is getting weaker…I think we all know the answer to that one…
Why do you assume a breakdown will result in a better long-term outcome?
Again, many of you are Marxist in that you assume a pre-ordained end to history – or at least an assuredness that collapse will lead to a better scenario long-term, not worse. This is not assured.
Eloi: I do not automatically assume that a collapse will guarantee a better outcome. I do assume that continuing as things are will result in a catastrophic outcome for the future of White people. I believe the risk – which accompanies any change – is worth the possible reward. And I’d rather see Whites go down fighting than gradually disappear as a weak, apologetic, miscegenated mess.
But your entire post is based on the idea that the collapse will be good for whites – without accepting it could quite plausibly be the opposite. And where does a collapse also require whites to awaken?
In a family on both sides of purely northwestern European, I find I am the last of my line. It once disturbed me, but no longer does. I have three grandchildren who, genetically, are mestizos, though their physical appearance is completely NW European and they are being raised culturally as same. I’ve come to believe that “Pure White” genetics may not carry the advantages that once they did, seeing as we seem to have become an endangered species. It may be up to a hybrid cadre to keep the culture and civ of NW Europe alive in other lands than… Read more »
“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” Thomas Paine
It’s the quote that rings in my head constantly. It give me strength to get up and push this aged body through an exercise routine that becomes more and more painful every year.
Hasten onward, o fiery meteor!
Collapse/Chaos = Opportunity
I recognize that as a single man w/ no children I’m not encumbered with familial responsibilities. In many ways it is men like us who are most dangerous as we genuinely have very little to lose. There are A LOT of single men in the West these days, so maybe you understand why there is so much clamoring for collapse. If anything it would at least give us some purpose in life, something to fight for.
It is not simply that Biden is demented. Worse, it is that he was bribed by the Ukrainians through the conduit of his crackhead son, and then he committed tens of billions and NATO membership to Ukraine and the public is still too stupid to see it.
Someone once said that the majority of democracies decline once the citizens learn they can vote themselves benefits from the public treasury.
Further, when this nation was set up, it was perhaps with good reason that only White wealthy land-owning and [presumably] highly educated men were allowed the vote. And, for all practical purposes, from those were chosen public officials, elected or appointed. Turns out that giving the vote and job opportunities to anyone with a pulse may not be in a republic’s (please note that I did not say “democracy’s”) best survival interests.
And by extension: simply loot the Treasury without voting to determine what people want.
The whole Ukraine funding thing is basically the Government Party ignoring voters and trying to hide what they’re doing. The public ain’t having it, and the Government Party still fears what people might do to retaliate.
ESPECIALLY if they can somehow get US formally at war in Ukraine. American soldiers/airmen/sailors getting killed at a rate of 30,000 per month will lead to terrorism here at home.
I’ll take a fast hard bottom. Especially if it’s attached to a blonde with long legs and perky tah-tahs…
The worst part about stupid people who can’t comprehend how stupid they really are is that it makes them dangerous people.
“That alone tells you that we are way way overdue for a culling of the stupid.”
Amen to that. Please, please make it so…
It never ceases to amaze me the parallels between the Soviet Union in its waning years and what we’re seeing from our government today. I think Putin had a point when he said that at its base level, our government doesn’t operate that much differently from the Soviet government. Good riddance to the GAE. It’s an unsustainable burden and I’m glad we’re going to be rid of it.
I submit that Western leaders did have an objective in mind when they provoked the war with Russia via the Ukrainian proxy. That objective was to crush the Russian economy under sanctions, provoke massive civil unrest, remove Vladimir Putin from office, and replace him with a pliable leader who would return to the 1990s when western oligarchs were allowed to plunder Russia. Long term, Russia might be divided up into different regions for easier plundering. That objective was totally unrealistic and sanctions have, in fact, backfired; The Russian economy is thriving and Vladimir Putin is possibly the most popular leader… Read more »
> Europe, the Ukrainian proxy war may be succeeding marvelously. The UK has been in recession for a year and Germany is deindustrializing.
I’ve long thought the destruction of Germany’s industrial base was the real goal here, and any dead Slavs were just a bonus.
Toria was no fool when she said “Fuck the EU”.
The Morgenthau plan, eight decades later, perhaps? The same, er, “ethnic group” that is persecuting the proxy war on Russia surely has as much, if not more, ancestral hatred of the Huns as they do of the Rus.
The stated goal was “to weaken Russia.” Western leaders dance around it, but Ukraine’s welfare never was a major consideration. It is reasonable to assume the United States also wanted to cripple Germany’s industrial base and cement European dependency. The former happened but I’m not at all convinced the latter will.
Yep, the neocons will view this whole episode as a draw. In their minds, here’s the scorecard: Wins: 1. A lot of dead Ukrainians and Russians 2. Europe is even more dependent on US 3. NATO enlarged 4. Lots of $ and weapons for MIC 5. Germany deindustrialized with some industry moving to US 6. Germany and Russia cooperation dead for a generation or more 7. US nat gas industry has a new customer Losses: 1. Putin more popular – but we’ll get him later 2. Russia more powerful than ever – but they’ll fall apart later 3. Russia and… Read more »
Sundance over at CTH refers to it as World War Reddit: attempting to win a media war against people trying to win a shooting war. The fags doing photo shoots aren’t going to win that war.
Europe reminds me of descriptions of Byzantium towards the end: hammered by a Christian crusade from their west, just waiting for the Arabs/Turks to deliver the coup de grace.
Congrats Europe! You are now the sick man of…Europe.
The USA was fine to let Western Europe LARP as world powers, it was part of the deal after WW2 for them to maintain some pride. In reality they accepted their vassal status and loss of sovereignty in exchange for material trinkets. This arrangement works great as long as the empire is strong, but when the empire starts to decline, you’re going to be the first to go and it’s not going to be fun. Britain, France, and Germany are now the passengers in a car being driven off the cliff by a lunatic, and they have no way of… Read more »
> The USA was fine to let Western Europe LARP as world powers
A good rule of thumb is, if you have foreign military bases on your land, you are not a sovereign country. It’s getting worse that Europe has grown fat on social services due to us being their military, and now they don’t have the money or will to rebuild, and their social services are reaching a breaking point. It’s a real possibility there will be a vast self-deportation as western economies systematically collapse.
Well, at least something good could come of all this mess.
Better to be living in Gallia than Italia during the 5th and 6th centuries.
“Ukraine did not want to go to war and was ready to take the deal on offer, until Washington sent Boris Johnson in to convince Zelensky to go to war in exchange for unlimited money and supplies.” This mirrors what happened in 1939 with Poland vis-a-vis Germany; the argument over the Danzig Corridor (forcibly taken from Germany by the Versailles Treaty) & it’s link to the German city of Danzig (now Gdańsk). Hitler was trying to make a deal with the Poles & very nearly had one until the British swooped in & told Poland not to give in to… Read more »
> FDR who was snookered entirely by the Soviet leader
FDR’s administration was filled to the brim with admitted communists. Joe McCarthy drastically *underestimated* the amount of communist infiltration.
Furthermore, FDR lied to the Portuguese telling them he planned to sneak attack Japan in order to provoke the Pearl Harbor attack (he knew the Japanese were intercepting Portugal’s diplomatic cables.)
He was a bigger war-monger than Uncle Joe. He was anything but “snookered”.
How do I know McCarthy was correct? I point to the fact he is villainized by the liberal elite and educational institutions universally. Pretty solid compass for navigating the truth these days.
None of this “sneak attack” was necessary, nor have I ever seen such in the alternative historical narrative. What is known though is that the US sanctioned most of Japan’s oil supply and that immediately threatened all of Japan’s military adventures. They then needed to secure such supply and that meant neutralizing the one power that could stop them, the USA.
A much more believable scenario than all this overheated nonsense about America intentionally provoking the Japs into bombing Pearl Harbor.
I guess cancelling legal agreements and illegally freezing assets of a foreign state while supplying its enemies with weapons and claiming to be “neutral” is not intentional provocation?
@ c matt
No, it is not. The US clearly was not neutral, but taking non-belligerent actions against the Japs hardly means they were wanting them to bomb Pearl Harbor. Rather, they were doing whatever they could to weaken who they considered to be the enemy without actually getting into the war. The US simply misjudged the Japs.
“The US clearly was not neutral, but taking non-belligerent actions against the Japs hardly means they were wanting them to bomb Pearl Harbor.”
If the U.S. government didn’t get a Pearl Harbor attack, it would have had to create one.
Mr. Generic, I sincerely doubt that FDR was personally capable of doing anything that you just described him as having done; his brain had long since been scrambled by syphilis.
The agent who was most likely to have been responsible for the sleight-of-hand you’re describing would have been Henry Morgenthau Jr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgenthau_Jr.#Early_life_and_education
Morgenthau oversaw everything for more than a decade.
Nothing happened unless Morgenthau approved it.
“Eastern Europe was later thrown in Stalin’s lap by FDR”
You can’t blame Stalin for that. I’m not talking about the bought off or color revolution-installed people inside the governments, but the average man on the street in any Slavic Eastern Orthodox country (except Romania and Ukraine) look favorably on the Russian people.
With regard to the Roman Catholic countries, the idea of a pan-slavic brotherhood arises from time to time. It’s not really a terrible idea, but there are always other forces trying to get in the way.
The west is still living in a world of delusion. The media proudly trumpeted the “Zelensky peace plan” he was passing around in Davos. They key points were: 1. Russia ceding all territory to Ukraine including Crimea 2. Russia handing over its generals for war crime prosecution. 3. Russia will pay Ukraine reparations for the war. Of course, this is insane. This is what the could offer if they had Moscow surrounded, but that’s not going to happen. It just shows the complete disconnect from reality our leaders have, yet they still persist. The floated Trump proposal (basically a ceasefire… Read more »
If Trump actually proposed trading Donbas and Crimea for a ceasefire, dear God… the BOM really knows how to show he’s as delusional as the ruling class. Those territories will remain Russian until there is no more Moscow. Well, it hardly matters since Trump will likely be behind bars after President Zombie is reinstalled next year.
Other way around – Ukraine gives up Crimea and Donbas in exchange for a ceasefire. Remember this is the same political class that, 12 months ago, was absolutely convinced that Ukraine was going to take back Crimea after the glorious counteroffensive. Instead we got a few weeks of them driving American tanks into open fields and getting blown up by drones.
Oh, my mistake! I shouldn’t think Trump was that nuts. Thanks for the correction.
You can not give up what you don’t possess.
To be clear, in such a situation, Ukraine would be giving up their claims to the regions, and effectively acknowledging Russia’s legitimate rule of them.
I stand corrected. Of course, you are right, Mycale.
It’ll be fascinating to see what my in-limbo Russian stocks shall be worth come January 21, 2025.
You, too? I thought I was the only one.
Russia would never settle for only that. They’re going to probably take everything east of Dnieper River, probably more than that even.
I haven’t been following the news for the past several years, only reading blogs like this. Once you realize everything is a lie, I’m not going to subject myself to their propaganda anymore. Soviet Union 2.0.
The warm water port and naval base in Sevastopol, Crimea, is of critical strategic importance to Russia.
The GAE knows this, and it explains their obsession with Crimea.
The prospect of losing Sevastopol for any length of time is the sort of thing that would get Russia thinking about breaking out tac nukes.
I am a project manager by trade. When I talk to an exec about a new project idea, it’s my job to get their heads out of the sky and talk about specific, measurable deliverables – and what it will require in terms of people, money, and time to achieve. They hate that stuff, but most realize that’s how things get done. Seems like nobody has had that conversation in an admiration since WWII. Every war since is just a mix of graft and stupidity. Ray McGovern is on the Duran right now talking about how the people running the… Read more »
Pretty sad that executives, whose name and title, going back to the Middle Ages, literally mean “to implement/ impose,” as in “manifest in the world,” need a reminder about actual delivery being the thing that requires focus.
Mileage varies widely between execs.
Europe, the land of many great and powerful empires over the centuries, has been a pipsqueak for nearly 100 years now – and the US is following along in kind. All frantically allowing, if not encouraging a flood of s*** colored sludge to degrade their former White nations, because diversity is our strength don’t you know. At least Russia is standing up for its legacy people – and history. Would that we had the same kind of leadership. I guess you get what you get when you allow foreigners and go gurls to call the shots.
They were electing senators in Rome all the way in the 7th century. Delusion can last a long time and take a lot.
Americans will accept the same lie about losing in Ukraine as they did about losing in Iran, Afghanistan, and Viet Nam: “If only we had taken the gloves off, sent troops, more weapons, more money, we would have won!” (conveniently forgetting the US started this by training and equipping Ukrainians more than a decade ago) This time might be different: the US has already demonstrated a willingness to attack strategic level civilian infrastructure (NordStream) and quite possibly civilians directly at the Crocus City Hall. False flags are very much on the table. Annie Jacobsen’s new book about nuclear war presents… Read more »
A “treaty” with a combatant is an oxymoron.
“How will the typical Frenchman react when he realizes he is a citizen of a pipsqueak country? How will the typical flag-waving American feel when he realizes he no longer lives in a superpower, but in a regional power that is in steep decline?” I would politely argue that the average Jacques or Joe is way ahead of the political Elites in both countries. I think the average Frenchman understands precisely his situation. He goes downtown to get a loaf of bread and sees Africans everywhere and a mosque under construction. France’s (arguably) best and most famous author’s last few… Read more »
The average Brit or Frenchman can look out his window and see Muslims and Africans walking down the street. Maybe the dots will actually connect about how their countries were conquered by their old empires and why they are drifting down into mediocrity.
If the Frenchmen in question is only seeing these people *walking* it is a good day. Videos I’ve seen—such as washing their ass in public drinking fountains—is quite depressing.
“Don’t drink the water!” It’s not just for Mexico, anymore…
At least they’re not speaking German! And those ethnic restaurants are wonderful.
In a very real sense, Western nations that once were colonial powers whether to a small extent (Netherlands) or large (UK) have been in term conquered and colonized largely by population from their onetime colonies.
If you compare an old globe to a present-day city, you’ll find that’s not so. Barcelona isn’t overrun by Aztecs, you’ll struggle to find a Mauritanian in Lyon, there’s no Little Micronesia in Hamburg, etc.
The invasion was *begun* with gestures of theatrical irony—Algerians to Paris, Jamaicans to London—to establish a rhetorical/symbolic frame for “us” and, more significantly, a sense of *vengeful unity* in the summoned horde of miscellaneous browns.
Blowback is a narrative device, never photographed in the wild.
It ain’t “drifting down”.
If you look up “mediocrity” in Webster’s New Collegiate, you’ll find France and the UK covered in the first line.
Can’t speak to the French, but as Hun points out in the thread below, whether Jacque or Joe wakes up will be seen in the current conflagrations percolating in Uke, Palestine and now Taiwan. Should Pierre or Paul don his beret and baseball cap (respectively) and march off to U, P or T to dutifully die for the ZOG and its greatest All Lie, then the “normie” epitaph will be well earned. I would love to see the “elites” disappointed that they threw a couple wars and no one showed up.
An interesting aspect to this global reshuffle will be how institutional media spins this to keep the normie grillers in suspended belief that the US is still fully in charge as a superpower. Even now, levels of propaganda and narrative shaping are off the charts in national news organizations to maintain this illusion. So many spinning plates going on right now. One is bound to fly out of control…
Even now, levels of propaganda and narrative shaping are off the charts in national news organizations to maintain this illusion.
Yeah, it all jumped the shark a fair while back. Kind of why I believe that ‘normie grillers’ will, in the main, not really be reached. Some will. But most won’t.
Not that I wouldn’t want or desire a mass awakening, of course. May the Good God deliver it.
Grillers will “wake up” when Trump wins and tells them to go and finish the job Israel started.
I would like to believe that. I would also like to win the lottery.
Sorry, I meant “wake up” as in go and fight for Israel. Motivating grillers into action is Trump’s superpower.
Should have picked up on that by the use of quotes. Will upvote as penance.
The end game will be a reordering of the world and a necessary reordering of the Western view of itself and its role in the world. I sort of agree with the first part, they’ll be some sort of reordering. But the reordering of the Western view of itself? Not so sure, Mr. Z Man. Don’t forget, we live in countries where even today most people who gleefully went along with the Shamdemic either have buried it in their minds, or defend the tyranny that arose as ‘necessary’. Even then, the incredible damage being done (most markedly to small businesses… Read more »
A covid fanatic recently said this to me: “Why are you still talking about covid? Nobody cares about it anymore. Move on!”
I can’t move on when even some close people revealed their demonic side and are still remorseless; and the people in charge, our “elites” and “public servants”, are still in their spots, without any accountability.
I live my life and don’t waste my time thinking too much about this, but I will never forget.
Hun,
This is exactly the sort of behaviour I’m talking about it. Just forget it! Just bury it!
You don’t need to go into any details, you just need to know that it was – certainly in my 40 years on the planet – the most incredible hoax perpetrated on the peoples of the West. That’s all.
It was worse than a hoax. To me the world ended in 2020. So many people who I thought I knew as decent and good, turned out be the opposite. All institutions, all leaders, the whole system has turned into total crap. Trust is lost forever, belief in basic human decency is gone…
But is that a good or bad thing? At least the mask is gone; the true have been tried and purified by the fire.
Covid was valuable as a clarifier, no? You could have found yourself in an even worse situation and thought certain people around you were reliable, you could have continued to blindly believe these institutions deserved your trust, and you could have continued to place your faith in a system that is utterly depraved. You have learned valuable lessons, and just because the vast majority failed to do so does not reduce that education. I lost my best friend (and others) over it, and am better off for it.
Yes, that is the silver lining. But the world was nicer when I had some illusions about its nature. We have to move on, but that does not mean that we won’t feel grief.
Couldn’t agree more. Because of the aggressive human stupidity boldly on display during the Covid Captivity, my misanthropy quotient went from 5.3 to 9.7. And it’s not receeding overmuch.
@Hun:
Redpills* never make things nicer.
There was no redpill redder than Covid. We are living through a horrible time and cannot afford illusions.
*Nathaniel Hawthorne’s treatment of disillusionment in YOUNG GOODMAN BROWN, which is the perfect analogue to the Covid era, is far better analogy to THE MATRIX, which is shorter and far more recent.
Comic relief: here’s a cartoon of somewhat questionable taste, but one that deals precisely with plagues and magical thinking, as well as the cold shoulder reality often gives one:
[Content advisory: PG for naughtly langauge.]
https://www.oglaf.com/chronotherapy/
Where I work, some people still wear the Flake Flap.
***smh***
Zombies… Don’t let them bite you Brother…
Pretty hard for them to bite when their mushes are covered with those ridiculous pieces of cloth.
>>>But the reordering of the Western view of itself? Not so sure….
It’s a generational thing. Boomers will never reach come-to-Jesus civic enlightenment, but the rising generations will mature knowing that they live in a formerly-great nation. In a century, every American mongrel will understand that we wuz kangs. With the emphasis on the “wuz”.
Cogently argued essay. “It seems many in the West still think they can wish hard enough to change reality on the battlefield.” This is called “magical thinking.” It’s similar to what the Nazis were propagating to their hapless population in late 1944 and early 1945. Magical thinking — involving denial of basic realities — is what the sh!head neocon “policymakers” do in DC. With regard to how these loonies and the populations they preside over will cope with their sharp reduction in influence and economic well-being, I suspect many, perhaps most, will not move beyond the first stage of the… Read more »
A consideration. The current arrangement was built mostly by western ideology. The death of the west will cause a transition to something new and unknown. The direction will not likely be an improvement and the transition will also be unpredictable and brutal. For all of our faults we got a lot right before we were overcome by this new madness. The west may deserve the beating thats coming but that doesn’t mean it will be good for the rest of the planet. More losers than winners. The unstability caused by the decline of the west will spread like a plauge… Read more »
With a little luck, maybe we will revert to the medieval rather than stone age.
You know, compared to 2024, 1224 doesn’t look half bad…
WillS: It was never our ‘job’ to see to the rest of the planet. God did not appoint AINO to be the world’s policeman, nanny, chief cook and bottle washer. Our government subsidized agriculture and do-gooder NGOs resulted in the massive and unsustainable growth of third-world populations, way beyond their carrying capacity. Our open-borders and ‘equality’ insanity then assisted the movement of this excess population to over-run Europe, AINO, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
F*ck ‘the rest of the planet.” We shouldn’t have meddled with it in the first place.
3g You seem to have confused my comment with an endorsement of the bad policies of the US and the current policies. That was not my point. A weak west will be just as destructive to the west as it is to the rest. We are not the people or the country we were. We have been sold out by corperate America and we are rather dependent on the others to supply us with our meds and computer chips. We lack the ability to be independent, too many bad policies. I am disgusted with the stupidity and greed of the… Read more »
Why the pessimism? While I’ve never had access to secret government contingency plans, I’m more optimistic: Except in the case where everybody literally set off every bomb on hand, it seems likely that much of the world would escape the worst radiation. Even the areas close to Ground Zero would become habitable given a few centuries. Of course, what the quality of the remaining DNA will be is an open question. Even if we somehow avoid opening up the canned sunshine, a worldwide system breakdown is no laughing matter. Again, I have no studies on hand, but I’d guess we’d… Read more »
I heard a reminiscent German discuss the later days of WWII. He knew they were losing, and the where and how, simply by noting the “victories” the Wehrmacht were achieving city by city as those “victories” approached deeper and deeper into the country. 😉
“How will the typical Frenchman react when he realizes he is a citizen of a pipsqueak country? How will the typical flag-waving American feel when he realizes he no longer lives in a superpower, but in a regional power that is in steep decline?” It is far worse than that. That France is puffing out its chest to fight for Ukraine when within its own borders it has surrendered sovereignty in select territories is a disgrace. How fun would it be to see one of Putin’s men pointing this out to some French girl boss at a negotiation? How will… Read more »
How will an American feel when he comes to the same realization, that not only does he not live in a superpower, but that his children live as a despised and legally disadvantaged minority on a continent that was his just forty years ago.
Well said.
Not much point in being a superpower when you daughter idolises Tyrone and your son thinks both he and his father have made use of ‘unearned white privilege’.
“How will the typical flag-waving American feel when he realizes he no longer lives in a superpower, but in a regional power that is in steep decline?” We shouldn’t credit Normie with too much self-awareness. Following a disastrous retreat from *twenty years* of fuck-fuck games in Afghanistan against a fourth-rate power, one might think the feeling of steep decline would have descended upon his mind. Instead, it seems largely forgotten and Normie is on the couch. Certainly the agitprop business (the media) acts blissfully ignorant of the disaster. What could easily happen after Weekend At Bernie’s II begins in January… Read more »
Normie’s lack of self-awareness is undeniable after Covid and the subsequent memory-holing of the lies and outrages associated with it. A dog that has been kicked once has more understanding of reality.
Are we much better than normie though since we have the knowledge of what is going on but don’t have the wisdom or the will to correct it… Knowledge without acting upon it, is in some ways worse than ignorance…
At least the French have the likes of Eric Zemmour and Marion Marechal calling it out, and they haven’t been silenced (yet). Read Zemmour’s latest book and you’ll see that France’s elites are well aware of the s**tshow they’ve created – but they will only admit the truth to Zemmour privately, not in public on TV. Maybe Zemmour hasn’t been silenced because he still has personal connections and old friendships with much of the French establishment dating from before he was the current enfant terriible. There’s an interesting anecdote in his book where he is hauled into the police station… Read more »
Jannie: Zemour holds the magic “anti-semitism” card. He’s far less pro-French than he is anti-Muslim. His parents were Algerian Jews.
Considering that such a reversal will also come with financial turmoil as well, it will be quite “rude.” It may take a lot to dethrone the dollar (which underpins our custom of living), but when it happens, all bets are off.
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For the ethnic Neocons, this war is a raging success. The main goal was/is to kill as many Slavic men as possible.
The secondary ethnic Neocon dream is to make Europeans kill other Europeans. If France sends troops to Ukraine, and other White countries join in, it will be a great bonus for them. White men dying in the east while their home countries are filled with more and more diversity.
This strategy has worked well against the Europeans insofar as their best and brightest have killed one another off historically. Stick with what works as Amschel’s progeny rape and pillage the world.
Don’t know how European army recruiting is going, but there may be a solution here – send immigrants.
We went through such an “experiment” in Korea with all Black divisions. Such was a failure, hence integration of the service. Nothing to due with Civil Rights, everything to do with performance. With the exception of Hispanics—to an extent—our minority majority armed forces will not cut it on the battlefield.