Alternative für Deutschland

Americans always struggle understanding the politics of continental Europe. For starters, the European Right has usually sounded like the American Left, while the Euro Left has sounded like the faculty lounge at Oberlin College. For my European readers, Oberlin is an insane asylum in Ohio. Buckley Conservatives may not have been sincere in their goals, but they put a lot of effort into sounding like small government, Classical Liberals.

Of course, there’s also been this weird phrasing that Americans are just now adopting. That’s the phrase “extreme far right” that is always center stage, ironically, in European political discussions. The “far left” never gets mentioned. Stalin is never described as “far left” but Hitler is “far right” even though he was a socialist. This has always been confusing to Americans, but we are catching up. Donald Trump is now far-right.

Then there are the political figures. In America, we hold veterans in very high regard, maybe too high, so military service is a good thing for politicians. In Europe, military men command little respect compared to other vocations. In America, we like it when someone goes from rags to riches. Therefore, we like politicians with humble origins. Europeans prefer men and women from the aristocratic and academic backgrounds.

As a result, unsophisticated Americans, like myself, have found European politics a bit murky. Well, that used to true. Americans can now relate to what our brothers and sisters across the Atlantic are experiencing in their politics. The evil Donald Trump is smashing up the political class with his extreme right-wing populism. Across the pond, extreme right-wing parties across Europe are smashing up their respective political classes. It’s spring time for Hitlers and they are blossoming across the West.

The most stunning development, the one that has good thinkers on both sides of the Atlantic in a panic, is the sudden rise of Alternative für Deutschland, an extreme right-wing extremist party of the most extreme right-wing kind. Led by the elfin Frauke Petry, this new party rang up surprisingly large vote totals, exclusively on the issue of immigration, particularly opposition to the Merkel policy of Islamification of Germany.

In addition to the ruling class Hitler fantasies, Americans and Germans now appear to have two things in common. One is that the political classes in both countries have displayed a staggering disregard for public welfare in their pursuit of personal salvation. Merkel out posing for selfies with refugees is as tone deaf as Republicans demanding open borders and amnesty for tens of millions of illegals. Cui bono?

The responsibility of the people put in charge, their chief responsibility, is to maintain public order. You cannot have a civilized and prosperous society with civil unrest. Deliberately inviting in these problems, as we see with Merkel in German and the open borders lobbies in America, is a betrayal of the public trust. In another age, the elites would not have to fear these populist parties as the people would have hung the elites before it got to this point.

The other overlap and the most important to consider is the source of support for these extreme right-wing far right extremist movements. Alternative für Deutschland is decidedly middle-class. It has the nickname “the professors party” because its founders were mostly academics. It’s vote is coming from middle-class Germans who work in professions. It’s support is also overwhelmingly male at this time, with some estimates at 85% male. This is a point that will become central to our future political debates.

Smart people have figured out who is voting for Donald Trump and the thing that jumps out is that Trump has broad-based support across the American middle-class. In fact, he is the candidate of middle America right now. Despite all the hooting and hollering about his angry voters, his rallies look like the crowd at Little League baseball games in a typical American suburb. His issues are also directly aimed at the middle.

Like AfD, Trump is drawing in male voters who have dropped out of the process, but also males who have thrown in the towel on the main parties. Current estimates suggest a 2-to-1 ratio male-to-female for Trump. This is not an accident. German culture has seen the same war on men we have seen in America. German men were literally told they had to urinate sitting down. When you have to get permission from a judge to take a whiz, you’re going to begin to think the people in charge are against you.

One last thing, related to the middle-class nature of these movements, is how the elites are responding. Instead of co-opting the issues, they are trying to link these movements to bogeymen like Pegida and the KKK. That’s a telling response and suggests the ruling classes have become decidedly anti-middle class. It’s also legitimizing the taboos against xenophobia, racism and ethnocentrism. You can only call decent people Nazis so many times before it loses its power to shame.

What’s happening across the West is the people are awakening to the fact that their rulers have a very different vision for their societies than they disclose in public. In many cases, it feels like the rulers have plans for the future that don’t include their voters. Those plans may be great ideas, but in stable societies, they must be debated in public. Otherwise, society becomes unstable. That’s what’s happening in Germany and America. The system is becoming unstable.

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Bobby Bubba
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Bobby Bubba

Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union still got majority of the votes, even after she invited a mass invasion there was Germans who still voted for her!

I think the West is finished, the reactions against our genocide have been too timid, maybe a Trump Presidency will force not only America but also Europe to start reversing decades of a extremely bad immigration policy but this is like admitting the ruling elites have been wrong all this time and deserve to have their heads chopped. The elites will not go down quietly.

Turk Sylvester
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Turk Sylvester

Why not wait until your side has actually lost, to give up the fight? I see a nice healthy reaction building up, across a broad swath of the citizenry. Am personally optimistic about the next 20 years. History is a pendulum, nothing stays the same forever. The left is ascendant in certain areas now, but are incapable of running anything effectively. At the least they will kill any hosts where they take over, and eventually lose power completely. And that’s without any active push back. For crying out loud, the USSR only lasted 70 years!

Bobby Bubba
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Bobby Bubba

The problem now is the demographic replacement, the elites have elected a new people, the next decade will be critical to reverse this policy, after that will be too late.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

Turk, your optimism is refreshing but it may be misplaced. The Cultural Marxist “Long March Through the Institutions” since the 1950s has taken an absolutely brutal toll, and there is a substantial minority of Americans who are so thoroughly confused and demoralized that, even in the absolute best case scenario, we will be feeling profound aftereffects for generations. You are correct, the USSR did fall, but remember that it was actively opposed by the strongest adversary on earth, the United States of America, from 1950 onwards. There is currently no meaningful organized opposition to the Cultural Marxists– although the good… Read more »

ganderson
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ganderson

I assume by ‘elfin’ you mean ‘quite attractive, of by the Howie Carr standard ‘not guilty’!

Severian
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As you say, you can only call people Nazis so many times before they say “If I’m gonna be accused anyway, might as well be guilty.” I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump develops some kind of volunteer citizen bodyguard as the primaries transition into the general. Lefties are openly and obviously inciting violence at his rallies; getting lots of angry, out-of-work white males who are tired of being pissed on to form goon squads would be child’s play. Notice the big collective “meh” at the (probably fake) story of that reporterette getting shoved down at a Trump rally — the… Read more »

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“I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump develops some kind of volunteer citizen bodyguard as the primaries transition into the general.”

I’m pretty surprised that the open-carry crowd hasn’t started showing up at his rallies.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

Trump has been a public figure for over 30 years. He certainly has assembled a large, loyal private security apparatus during this time. Furthermore, he now also has the benefit of Secret Service protection– protection that certainly has been beefed up substantially in the wake of the recent attack. While I don’t fully trust the Secret Service, they are highly trained and experienced, and must have at least a little professional pride at stake. I’d also expect that Trump’s security team is keeping a close eye on the Secret Service guys– Trump has the resources to buy the best protection… Read more »

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

“There will be brownshirts, and they will be entirely the Left’s fault.” Once you understand where the Brownshirts came from, you’ll understand that the phenomenon simply won’t be repeated here in the US. The Brownshirts were the outgrowth of the German “Freikorps”. German World War 1 veterans spontaneously organized into various paramilitary units under that collective moniker in order to fight the communist revolutionaries that posed a very real, very immediate threat to take over Germany right after the war ended. The Freikorps were active for several years until the role they played was gradually assumed by more official organs… Read more »

alzaebo
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alzaebo

The war on men must reflect the number of women- especially women who have no use for men- in governance jobs. This goes for minorities as they eye fiefdoms in the structure as well.

Herzog
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The Greens and especially the Social Democrats (SPD) got pummeled even worse than Merkel’s CDU. As a German, that gives me the greatest satisfaction. The SPD, of Willy Brandt fame, just twenty years ago used to score between 35 and 45 per cent pretty much everywhere. Before these elections, they were already down to around 25 per cent in two of the three voting states (the third one is a special case, where they have a very popular lady governor) — now they got halved in both of those states and there rank even behind the AfD newcomers. Sweet. CDU… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

(1) “Europeans prefer men and women from the aristocratic and academic backgrounds.” Germans do favor academia over wealth, however aristocracy is not really a benefit. Our Defense Minister Herr Gutenberg was tossed out of office a few years ago for plagiarism. His family name and background did him little good in the political arena. If you look at all our past Chancellors, they’ve all come from very humble beginnings. Yes, they gained power, wealth and status over time, but that’s to be expected for anyone who is successful in their profession. (2) “Like AfD, Trump is drawing in male voters… Read more »

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

Karl,
Why is it that support for PEGIDA and AfD seems to come mainly from the former East?

Also, Did you mean Saxony or Saxony-Anhalt instead of Lower Saxony? PEGIDA has demonstrations in Dresden, but I haven’t heard of any in Hannover.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

The former East has 60-years of communism and economic depression to get over. Consider Detroit, you could replace all the buildings and infrastructure there, but the people make it what it is. The AfD is a party and PEGIDA is an anti-American and anti-foreigner movement. Dresden is in Saxony, (east Germany) while Hannover is in Neidersaxen (west Germany).

Lorenzo
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Lorenzo

I know that Niedersachsen is in the West, which is what confused me when you mentioned Lower Saxony as a center for AfD. That is why I asked whether you meant Sachsen or Sachsen Anhalt (to use the correct names) because I didn’t think that AfP had much influence in that area.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

I should have said “southern” rather than “lower” Saxony. Sorry for the confusion.

Delbert McClintock
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Delbert McClintock

You’re blind Magoo. Add North Rhine-Westphalia to your (incomplete) list of states where AfD will be getting votes.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@ McClintock – Of course the AfD will get votes just like any fringe party does in times like this. Ross Perot, what party was he? He came and went…same thing will happen here. The AfD isn’t a concern in Germany. But I would agree it would be a concern in a country that was a full blown banana republic with a massive national debt, huge unemployment rates, half the population not paying taxes and the other half on welfare, failing industries, defaulting cities, unaffordable health care system, worsening education systems and race riots in major cities.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

Karl, let me educate you about Ross Perot. First, he ran as an independent candidate– he did not organize a party apparatus, nor did he have the benefit of a meaningful pre-existing party apparatus to help him. Second, he faced death threats that he considered so serious that he dropped out of the Presidential race for three critical months in order to secure his family’s safety. By the time he re-entered the race in October of 1992, he had lost valuable time and momentum– but still won almost 20% of the popular vote. Once the election was over, he largely… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@ Buckaroo – Thank you for the excellent information on Ross Perot. I was not aware of death threats. However, my point was not to compare him with the AfD at all…they are worlds apart…the only intention of my point was that like Ross Perot, the AfD is likely to go away (my mistake for a poor choice of analogy). Perhaps I would have been better to have referenced out Pirate Party, which disappeared shortly after gaining seats.

Delbert McClintock
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Delbert McClintock

Karl, what if Merkel is in fact evil? What would she do differently than what she has already done?

James LePore
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Read this: https://pjmedia.com/blog/latest-survey-finds-25-of-french-teenagers-are-muslims/?singlepage=true.
Germany may be the last to go, but the Trojan Horse is inside the gate, no matter what Merkel’s motives are.

Dutch
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Dutch

The test for Frau Merkel is whether she can really adjust her policies to accommodate the changed situation on the ground. Politicians have huge egos, and to change is to admit that one has been wrong. Additionally, politicians must answer to certain powerful and well-connected constituents and contributors, and the political parties themselves, which these politicians represent, have their own policy rigidities, demands, and expectations. Politicians typically double down on unpopular, but deeply held positions. We shall see.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@ McClintock & Dutch – Frau Merkel has done a good job for Germany and there have been a number of things that have shown her to be a strong, successful leader. Germany is the undisputed economic leader of Europe and much of that has to do with good fiscal direction under her leadership. That is very important in the eyes of the German people and just as Americans hold Mr. Obama responsible for the $17-trillion debt, we give her credit for our strong economic situation and the fact we came out of the 2008 and 2013 crisis quite well.… Read more »

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

If I wanted to completely ruin a country, I’d create some positive short-term achievements in order to distract the electorate from the long-term ruination I was perpetrating for allegedly “humanitarian” reasons. Whether Merkel is a fully-conscious malicious actor, or merely an unwitting dupe and catspaw of other, more sinister, interests, is a topic worth exploring. But trying to make the case that she is good for Germany is flat-out retarded.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

If that logic were applied to American leadership, you would have to agree that all presidents since Regan have done everything they have done with the sole purpose of ruining the country. Because a case could certainly be made that it were so.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

Yes, I’d agree with that, with Obama being by far the worst of the bunch.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

“It was not some sort of conspiracy move to import Muslims and displace the German people – this idea is utter nonsense and we all know it since we have had Turkish guest workers in Germany since the 1950’s.”
Karl, I hate to say this, but you are completely delusional. The Cultural Marxists play a long game. Ever consider that the importation of Turkish guest workers starting in the 1950s was simply the first move in a very long chess match– a chess match that Germany is losing? You need to splash some cold water on your face, and wake up.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

From a country with 11-million illegals, many of whom are receiving social benefits, I think this is not the place or time for the pot to call the kettle black. Wait and see before making prophetic accusations about the direction of Germany.

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

You see, we agree again here. The difference is, Hispanics have been a part of American culture for 300 years, especially in places like the southwest. And, our country is huge so it can absorb a large amount of illegal invaders. That said, the invasion is working out terribly for us. Your problem is, Germany is much smaller, and dealing with Muslims represent a challenge an order of magnitude larger than Hispanics. It’s pretty easy to see this is going to be an outright disaster that will manifest itself in awfully short order.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

There is a second side to that which many seem to overlook. Muslims are not a people, they are a religion bordering on a cult. Therefore anyone (American, German, Mexican, etc.) can become a Muslim. The Muslims, at least in industrialized countries, tend to draw the disenfranchised, which is one reason they have had little traction here as opposed to France. Look at Louis Farrakhan and his followers. They did not originate in the Middle East, they are home grown haters.

JohnTyler
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JohnTyler

Karl; I realize that Germany has had for many years now Turkish Muslim guest workers for many years, as you say. But have they formed their own, insular, near-sharia-law or radical Islamist compliant neighborhoods as they apparently have in the UK and France? You know, those “no-go” zones in which even the police avoid. What would be the reaction of the German citizenry if they see that the “Merkel refugees” refuse to assimilate and demand that German laws and customs do not apply to them? What was the reaction of the German citizenry when the mayor(?) of Cologne told female… Read more »

Christopher S. Johns
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Christopher S. Johns

Ross Douthat, the NYT reader’s platonic ideal of what a good, housebroken conservative should be, is not elfin. He has, however, officially jumped the shark with this column: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/the-party-still-decides.html?ref=opinion&_r=0 In which he explains that the GOP must take the courageous step to deny Trump the nomination even if he were to win the required number of delegates because Trump is an “authoritarian.” Yes, Trump is the authoritarian, so the GOP would be justified in negating the votes of millions and millions of party faithful, betraying their trust in an outrageous fashion, and grossly violating the norms of American democracy. Ross… Read more »

Delbert McClintock
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Delbert McClintock

Douthat is Jonah Goldberg with less acne and a (much) better looking wife. But still a pegged cuck.

Dutch
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Dutch

The Republican Party has the opportunity to become a powerful and dynamic movement with massive middle class American support, with or without Trump. It only needs to roughly embrace Trump’s positions on illegal immigration, gun rights, and his “common sense” themes that he throws out there (and typically offered by Trump with few or no supporting policy prescriptions). Instead, most of the Republican operatives seem to crave the perpetuation of their own personal perks and status much more intensely than any broader success. Even those such as Christie seem to be acting as opportunists more than following some sort of… Read more »

Buckaroo Banzai
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Buckaroo Banzai

Ross Asshat.

That is all.

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I accept, outwardly, that Angela’s motivation to save Syrians from themselves was humanitarian, but it was an astonishing lapse of judgment (unforgivable in any serious politician) that non-Syrians would not take advantage of the opportunity and with it that enemies of the west wouldn’t join the rush. Of course, we know all politicians don’t understand numbers in all sorts of ways but how did the woman think the numbers might be manageable, or even limited? Did she think word would get round Syria that the asylum centres were full so best not to try and come? Worse, her generosity with… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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There may be some support to the idea that because German Turks have not been a social problem to Germany in the way French Moroccans and Algerians have to France, there was no serious concern for Syrian refugees to come here. For this reason, the average German could assume as things were, so would they remain. Even with an influx of refugees given that Turks have not openly threatened our society in the way the French have suffered under Muslim terrorists attacks. That lesson has been well learned, and thus the appearance of the AfD not so much as a… Read more »

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Assuming this is a typo, party-wise”

“Merkel out posing for selfies with refugees is as tone deaf as Republicans demanding open borders and amnesty for tens of millions of illegals. “

Kathleen
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“..,sudden rise of Alternative für Deutschland, an extreme right-wing extremist party of the most extreme right-wing kind”. This is sarcasm, yes? Because it is hard to figure out the various political parties and coalitions in European politics, I asked someone who knows a great deal about it, and he said that AfD is not any kind of extremist, right-wing party but gets labeled as such as a sort of knee-jerk reaction to any party which professes to be nationalist or populist. AfD would probably be a centrist type of group if it was here in the US. It’s too bad… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@ Kathleen – Any party in Germany that makes the statement that they want to “return the Fatherland, lock up mental patients and toss out foreigners” has a distinct Goebbels ring to it. German voters simply used the worst possible party to get the attention of the CDU. If you actually think the Nazi party was a “centrist-type government” you should read up on your history and learn the facts, rather than asking people who obviously have no clue about German politics. Do you even know who started the AfD or why the party was formed? Perhaps you should stick… Read more »

Kathleen
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Kathleen

Ooh, a bit touchy, Karl, hey? When looking up the platform of AdF online there is nothing extremist about it, and in fact I am aware that there are parties within Germany who believe what you state. But I also know that Leftists always call people who disagree with them extremists. It’s par for the course. I never mentioned the Nazis, that’s all your doing, making that ignominious comparison. Odd that you call yourself a conservative, for you speak like you’re Leftist. You’ve been marinated in socialism so long you no longer recognize a centrist party largely concerned with saving… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

It’s AfD, not AdF. Suffice to say I’m smart enough to recognize what the Nazi party is and isn’t. And I certainly don’t need to ask someone else’s opinion, especially an American who has zero first hand knowledge. You laugh and jest when your American Nazi party marches the streets because the few idiots in brown shirts there could never do to you what their role models did to us. If you think the Republicans and Democrats are both terrible, you’re welcome to start your own AfD (Alternative für Dummkopf) Remind me again how in America, where about half of… Read more »

Kathleen
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Kathleen

Is it amusing to you to insult Americans on an American blog site? “Dummkopf?” Really? A bit juvenile and pompous, no?

“You have 10-million more than we do.” In sheer numbers, yes, but have you forgotten we have more than 3 times the population you do? Your influx is not over, and your country doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of assimilating them. As some of us in America like to say, “enjoy your muzzies”.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@ Kathleen – You seem to lack the ability to differentiate between Islamists and Muslims, Nazis and centrists. Therefore I question your ability to understand the fundamental principles or political goals of these groups. Your previous comments would indicate most of your knowledge about the subject of German political parties and European politics is based on the questionable scribbling’s of random bloggers, rather than the serious writings of people who understand far more than your simple minded regurgitation of other peoples explanations which are themselves flawed. As you said yourself “Because it is hard to figure out the various political… Read more »

Kathleen
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Kathleen

You ARE insulting, but I’m a big girl and not cowed by your dismissal of what I’ve previously posted. I’ve admitted that I don’t know the ins and outs of German politics, that hardly makes me uneducated. Just as you have an opinion on American politics, so do I about German politics. However I do not remember calling you a dummkopf. You are not American yet somehow you fancy yourself an expert on American affairs because you lived here for 20 years? BFD. It is very obvious to me that YOU have limited knowledge of Islam, otherwise we wouldn’t be… Read more »

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

I welcome your criticism of Frau Merkel and anything the German government is doing or not doing. Criticism is key in understanding our faults, of which we (like you) have many. Since you seem interested in German politics feel free to ask about what you don’t fully understand or are confused about. I wouldn’t expect you to be able to read German, so I will take the time to look for good English translations that may help you with the subject matter. We Germans are by nature both blunt and critical and enjoy a good debate with people who are… Read more »

Kathleen
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Kathleen

Olive branch accepted.

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“Locking up” mental patients is hardly a bad thing. 95% of America’s homeless are mental patients who need to be housed in a mental facility, just like the ones in Germany, I’m sure. It’s not jail; it’d humane. They need feeding, shelter, looking after and daily meds. They are also targets for murder, also. And yes, they are a menace, but need caring for. The Left stigmatized putting the homeless, who are homeless because they are mental, in facilities, so now they litter the streets. And just because we Americans don’t live in Germany doesn’t mean we can’t understand German… Read more »

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Wow… wish this thing had an edit button. My comment is riddled with mistakes.

Karl Horst (Germany)
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Karl Horst (Germany)

@5MilesOut – I understand what you are saying and I agree to a point that people who are unable to care for themselves should be looked after. That’s a very social concept and I am happy to see some Americans can grasp the benefits of greater social awareness. However here in Germany the last time mental patients, which included the mentally retarded and anyone deemed “mentally unstable” were locked up by the State, they ended up in Dachau.

As for Frau Merkel being “a bit evil” I would be curious to know the thoughts behind this comment.

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“The responsibility of the people put in charge, their chief responsibility, is to maintain public order.”

But not too much of it. If there is order, then there is no need for police; and without police, how can the rulers stay on top?

The real job of the rulers is to loot the workers (meaning the middle class). Let’s call a spade, a spade.