Most likely, you are looking at the title of this post and prepared to dismiss it as homophobic, whatever that currently means. I get that and I’m used to it. I’m a white heterosexual male so I’m used to being called a racist, a bigot, a misogynist, an anti-Semite, an Islamophobe, an extremist, a homophobe, a sexist, a cis-genderist and every other epithet. That’s right. We honky dudes have been accused of discriminating against everyone, so as a straight white male, I’m used to it. Despite the fact we created civilization, everyone dumps on us these days. That’s gratitude for ya.
Just to get it out of the way, I’m mildly intolerant of homosexuals. Specifically, I think female homosexuality is ridiculous and I think male homosexuality is disgusting. As a point of comparison, I think lima beans are disgusting, but I’m not out at night waging war on legume farmers. What you people do in private may revolt me, but as long as you do it in private and don’t hurt anyone, it’s none of my business. It’s a big world and there is plenty of room for all kinds as long as we make reasonable efforts to respect each other’s point of view. It’s not that hard to be polite.
That’s the problem, of course. For the last few decades, you guys in the Alphabet Soup Community (LGBTQQIP2SAA? Really?) have not been holding up your end of the bargain. Instead of respecting the sensibilities of the majority, you have gone out of your way to offend normal Americans, particularly those of us in the honky community. Turning a St. Patrick’s Day parade into a gay St. Patrick’s Day parade may seem like a hoot to you guys, but it really does piss off the rest of us. You surely know it, but you do this stuff anyway, suggesting the point of it all is to piss of the squares, more than anything else.
Even so, what happened down in Orlando was a terrible thing. As an American, I hate that my government is importing these people into our country. This is both predictable and preventable, but here we are anyway. I’m now seeing news stories reporting that you guys are rethinking your alliance with the Left, particularly when it comes to immigration and guns. Listening to Milo Yiannopoulos, I’m getting the sense that gays may be ready to change teams, so to speak. Having figured out that you have been nothing more than pets to the Left, you are going to join the other team, at least for this election.
That’s a good idea, as the Left is going to keep importing Muslims until the Left is dethroned and purged from society. The Official Right is not much better, but they are a bunch of feckless wussies so no one cares what they think. The Left is the butch side of the ruling class and they love Muslims. The census says we have 3.3 million Muslims as of 2010, so that means the number is probably closer to 5 million now. At a rate of half a million per year, the goal according to Paul Ryan, Muslims will outnumber homosexuals by the end of the decade or thereabouts. Either this changes now or you guys better learn to fly.
Here’s the reason for my note. I’m getting the sense that we in the straight white guy community are supposed to celebrate this change of heart by America’s homosexuals. Gavin McInnes was just out creating a big scene, making out with Milo Yiannopoulos for some reason. Gavin is just a hang around on the alt-right, but he often claims to speak for white guys in the generality. I see some familiar faces embracing the change on twitter so there’s some effort, at least, to figure out how to welcome the gays into the army opposing the Left. No enemies on the Right and all that.
That sounds nice, but I’m not sold. I know more than a few Muslims and they may be crazy, but it’s a crazy I can deal with as a white guy. We white guys are not going to have to worry about the kids seeing guys in assless chaps down at the Ramadan parade. Not having screeching harpies call us sexist because we refuse to pretend biology is a social construct sounds pretty attractive. To be honest, the thought of Muslims pitching the faculty of the Womyn’s Studies department off the roof is not so bad. Yeah, that makes me a bad guy, but I’m used to it. It’s been a long war.
That’s not to say I’m not amenable to welcoming the gays into the revolution. It’s just you guys have to bring more to the party than a fashion sense. The Christian bakers would like a little breathing room. The Boy Scouts would like to be left alone. The guys at the office would like to tell a salty joke without fear of being fired, or worse, being sent off to a reeducation camp. In other words, if you want help with Mohamed, you’re going to have to give some stuff back to us. Otherwise, I think I speak for most straight white guys in saying we’ll roll the dice with Mohamed.
Don’t get me wrong. I’d really rather not have to convert to Islam. I look like shit with a neck beard and I can’t ululate worth a damn. Giving up bacon and beer would really suck, but the Muslims are not wrong about everything. I’m not saying you have to go back in the closet or put up with cops busting up your clubs. Just meet us half way. Show some respect for the majority, leave the Christian bakers in peace and respect the fact that not everyone enjoys seeing a man walking down the street in a gold lamé thong. Maybe stop making us pretend you’re married.
Anyway, if you made it this far, think about it. Keep in mind that about 500 Muslims were imported since Orlando so don’t take too long.
Toodles,
Z
The quest by gays to have everything that non-gays have is, frankly, tiresome. The demand for gay civil unions soon morphed into demands for gay marriage, and the way the media celebrated seeing two men holding hands on the church steps (sometimes both dressed in white — mockingly, perhaps — as if they couldn’t decide who was on top) was an insult to those who don’t think it is the best way forward. ‘Tis wearing a little thin, darlings. I know and have known homosexual people — male and female — and they are no more liberated or happy (and… Read more »
Here’s the problem. I have nothing against the gays, but they seem to have something against me. That’s been the case for three decades. They can’t bitch now if I don’t come running to their aid when they have foolishly got themselves into a war with Muslims.
Well, I have a bigger problem.
As a man, I don’t want my wedding dress to clash with my husband’s.
What bugs me is the adoption part, and the part where gays become unavoidable by kids. Putting boys at risk of adoption by gays is the worst betrayal I can imagine. And no parent worth their salt will want to allow their kids to be proselytized by perverts – so many kids will be lose out on activities, which seems very destructive of society.
“That sounds nice, but I’m not sold. I know more than a few Muslims and they may be crazy, but it’s a crazy I can deal with as a white guy. We white guys are not going to have to worry about the kids seeing guys in assless chaps down at the Ramadan parade.” You know, I’m not so sure about that. Yeah, Muslims would certainly be more publicly self-repressive, but in light of Bacha bazi and other tales from the sand land, I’m not so sure you’d be trading up when you consider what would be going on behind… Read more »
And then there’s “man love Thursdays.” For people who are so violently anti-gay, they sure spend a lot of time sodomizing each other.
Hey, bottom line, don’t matter whose doing the killing, who is doing the importing of the musloid killers, ultimately it all begins with each of us. And that means, those people in Orlando, died because they were not armed and could not defend themselves. And just who is it that imposed the kind of “laws” where a person can not arm and defend themselves properly without threat of becoming incarcerated, for the most primal basic fundamental right that exists? The same fuckers who are importing the killers. Funny how that works. The whole thing is a classic pig trap for… Read more »
You can’t defend Western Civilization while simultaneously tearing it down. I wish the gay the bets of luck in their war with the Mohammedan, but it’s not my war. For thirty years I’ve been told to shutup so the POC, womyn, gays and anyone else with a grudge against the PPP can take over. Well, They got their wish.
If they want my help, they need to pay my price.
It is kind of fun to sit back and watch to see which of them will figure it out and which will stay true to decades of political conditioning.
I have no interest in defending this:
https://twitter.com/JohnRiversToo/status/743666133853704192
ZMan, do you have a twitter handle?
Look to the upper left of the blog. There’s a link.
It’s not appearing in my browser.
Try turning off any ad blockers you have running and reload the page. That toggles a whole row of twitter-esque icons, in Firefox at least.
BB – Check out his post from April 5, 2015 . . .
thezman.com/wordpress/?p=4229
Ya, and when the cultural marxists fuckers are done with their useful dupes, then they come for us dirt people. Think the gays are the kind of stupid you can’t fix? Just wait, the legions of white people that are on the menu for liquidation, this is where this is heading. And that you and almost everyone here don’t take the gravity of the truth seriously, that is the kind of stupid that gets us all killed, because we are all gonna need each other to fight the true enemy here. Think it’s funny those faggots, he she’s and carpet… Read more »
I totally agree, Doug. Pitting one group against another is a time-honored tradition of the Left. The Left is using Islam to its advantage now, not realizing that one day the sword will come for them. In the coming battle(s) for our civilization, we need all the friends we can get, even those who in normal times we might cross the street to avoid.
Interesting thing is that both feminists and islamists want to cover up pictures of women in a state of undress, or who aren’t attired in clothes which hide their femininity. Eventually, the left (like Islamists) will ban women from dressing in ways which ‘objectify women’ and ‘cater to western ideals of beauty’. After all, if you shouldn’t see a photo of a woman who dresses sexily because the sight ‘offends and objectifies’ then why would you have to be subjected to the actual sight of one in 3d in real life? Both feminists and Islamists object to promiscuous behavior, with… Read more »
Join the discussion I’m not with you on this, I’m not arsed about what gays do or don’t but the religion of peace wants to turn my little girls into black bag wearing property and for that I’ll fight.
It is our war. San Bernadino was not at a Gay Club. It was an office. The next may be at a Theme Park or a church. By their nature the Gay Community is provocative. I will give you that. Milo has been on a tear thru our college campuses verbally smacking the Social Justice Warriors around. That is our next generation crying for “Safe Spaces” Milo’s and Gavin’s stunt – they are provocateurs, and as for Gavin I bet he is on his 5th bottle of Listerine by now. But the meat and potatoes of their message was spot… Read more »
“Keep in mind that about 500 Muslims were imported since Orlando”
But…but…The President said “If we don’t disarm, these events will continue!”
Maintain focus, Zman. Gays aren’t the problem. The left is the problem. Gays cover the entire range of the political spectrum and the entire range of the masculinity spectrum. The night club set of flaming homos/queers get all the media attention because they make a good spectacle, but walk into a gay bar out West and you are going to meet lots of very high testosterone, leather-clad, hairy butch men who drink beer, shoot pool, ride motorcycles, drive pickups, hunt, fish, work blue collar jobs, vote Republican, and generally can’t stand the effeminate little fags who populate night clubs like… Read more »
They will come for us, this as they came for us before; at Malta, Italy, Tours and Lepanto. But when they come for us, they’ll bring their ‘A” game.
We had best fix our ‘Leadership’ problem by then.
John, that’s simply delusional. Muslims don’t have anything that even approaches an A game in the modern world. In fact, their biggest problem is that the modern world is simply passing they by–they have nothing to offer a modern world in terms of science, art, economics, military organization, etc. Their only assets are oil, terrorism, and high birth rates. They are only “coming for us” in the sense of a mass immigration wave masquerading as refugees. This is an issue only because leftist leaders in the West allow and even encourage such immigration. Muslims aren’t the problem. The left is… Read more »
“Their only assets are oil, terrorism, and high birth rates. ” The only one of those we have beaten them on is oil… which of course is why Barry is still trying to shut down or stifle the Fracking industry. Terrorism has developed into an expensive long game for them and we are as far from a win as when we started. High birth rates coupled with Islams scripture on multiple wives has been what fueled the Mohammedan wars of expansion for over an millennium; a bumper crop of angry young men without women and another hadith permits the taking… Read more »
There has been a growing group of conservative gays for some years, but they have mostly stayed in the closet. The conservative closet, not the gay closet. The Log Cabin Republicans are perhaps the best known. However, Milo has probably done more for the visibility of conservative gays than all other groups combined. More of us are “coming out” as conservatives. These groups mostly do support equal rights for both sides of the issues and do not want to force anyone to violate their religious beliefs to bake gay cakes or let men into the women’s rest room. I’ve been… Read more »
Whether gay or straight, Muslim or Christian, I think the point is we all have the right to do whatever we want, with whomever is willing to do it with us – gay or straight, black, white or brown, male or female. But take ownership of the consequences of your lifestyle, and don’t impose it others against their will. As I once heard someone say…your right to swing your arm ends where your fist meets my nose. It’s pretty simple really. If you want to carry a gun, fine. Learn how to use it safely and please don’t point it… Read more »
“True Suicide,” the name of a work of art winning 1st place in an amateur art contest in the Netherlands. I cannot (or at least don’t know how) to post the picture, but it is of a European white male with a watering can watering a small waist-high tree with a rope tied to a branch and the other end in a hangman’s noose around his neck. The pic is better than this description.
I don’t know if this is true, but passing along what was sent by a friend.
The text on the man is “Europe.” The text on the small tree is “Islam.”
The text on the man is “Europe.” The text on the small tree is “Islam.”
“True Suicide,” the name of a work of art winning 1st place in an amateur art contest in the Netherlands. I cannot (or at least don’t know how) to post the picture, but it is of a European white male with a watering can watering a small waist-high tree with a rope tied to a branch and the other end in a hangman’s noose around his neck. The pic is better than this description.
I don’t know if this is true, but passing along what was sent by a friend.
What we might see is a split between the more mainstream wing of the gay community and the more radical. Grew up in South Florida when it was one of the few places gays could be relatively open and recall the degree to which our next door neighbor’s, a wealthy refugee gay couple, and their social circle used to bitch about the “assless chaps” wing. They struck me a s more libertarian than anything…leave them alone, have fundamental legal rights like inheritance and mutual respect and tolerance. So I might place my money on a schism where those with a… Read more »
Great essay..just great. Thanks for saying it out loud.
Seems most expect some sort of planned, coordinated mass attack from the fanatics of the Islamic persuasion, ok, I’m being PC there, the Mooslim terrorists among us. What most miss is the asymmetric style of warfare they are conducting. Fear is the game of terrorism. Time is their friend. And they are aided and abetted by friends foreign and domestic. In the case of Orlando, this guy gets the calling, makes good on his pledge to collect his 72 virgins/goats, whatever, and goes on a killing spree. We do not get the whole story. Just how does he do this… Read more »
This is a topic I’ve oft thought about the last few years. It’s hard to find who to root for or against. Traitors or the enemy? It’s hard not to just let the moonbats choke on what they’ve created. After all, they’re inside the gates, destroying and burning it down. All the while, they’re opening the gates up to the enemy, and any attempt by sensible to people close it up is met with hate and derision.
Gee, a few days ago I made somewhat similar comments about the circus the Orlando story was becoming and got flamed… timing, it’s always timing. I didn’t and still don’t think that Orlando changes anything; “Radical Islam” friendly Chief Executive (check), “Gun Free Zones” still a bad idea (check), Media still getting the facts wrong on the weapons used and lessons needed to learn (double check). One thing that hasn’t had enough comment, “Why such a high death toll?”. In the wars of this century (Detroit counts) we have racked up a lot of experience in gunshot and concussive force… Read more »
“…but the Muslims are not wrong about everything”
I beg to differ, ZMan. Care to cite some examples of what Muslims are “right” about?
http://www.nairaland.com/1232408/72-signs-end-time
Almost all old religions have some degree of overlap.That is to say, there is commonality to be found. Go through that list. If you’re some form of Judeo-Christian, some of it you’ll agree with, some you’ll scratch your head over.
That’s a list of completely random predictions. Like picking stocks by throwing darts at the stock listings.
Was thinking the very same thing. I know too much about Islam to think that Moslems could be right about anything.
I love your post! Honest and straight forward – it can not get better than that! While I’m not a while male – I am a white female, and European white female and legal immigrant. The PC stuff annoys me to no end although the demonization of the white American male angers me. You are targets for the left. When you have such militant lesbians and the stupid feminist movement – it’s no surprise. Forgive me for saying this: It should be no surprise when a lesbian uses a strap-on, isn’t that just the most idiotic thing? How you can… Read more »
I give you this today:
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/17/gay-man-urges-america-to-elect-donald-trump-to-fight-radical-islam-in-emotional-video/
Why did it take them so long? It’s no secret that Islam hates gays. It’s like these people actually think “well, I’m a good person. I stand up for Muslims against the haters. No one would shoot me”. They don’t care! They hate you anyway.
Good essay, Z. I completely see where you’re coming from. I am *very* ambivalent regarding this slaughter. On one hand I am thoroughly enjoying the extreme gyrations and cognitive dissonance the Leftists are going through, particularly the MSM fudge-packers (Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon, I’m looking at you) as well as our Occupier-in-Chief (Reggie Love?). On the other hand I know all to well that bowing in *any* way to Islam is a sure road to more death and destruction. Z, I think you are just using the “Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste” approach, and that’s a good… Read more »
For years, well-meaning Christians have been harassed, vexed and molested by the so-called “gay mafia”. After Orlando, I expected a shower of destruction to come down upon the Mosques of America. But ummm nothing. It reminds me of the feminist reaction to Rotherham. Again, nothing. One word, Rotherham, destroys every feminist argument. Now, another word, Orlando removes the threat of any homo-trouble. It’s a shame because both groups have had the same enemy. Oh well, I guess it is up ol’ white hetero male again. This time, can we do the job and force all those who owe us tribute… Read more »
Why should we, as Huwhite males whiteknight queers? They have chosen their side let them be.
Not suggesting whiteknighting for homos. But they and the feminist harpies have shown they aren’t up to the task. If anyone is to stop Islamist silliness, it is white dirt-man.
Gays decided a while back they didn’t just want to be tolerated in peace, they also wanted to be normal/mainstream.
That’s wonderful,BUT get out of my face……
Maybe some or most do, but it is the radical gays that define and maintain the gay agenda. And this agenda is not live and let live nor is it a desire to be normal or mainstream. Their agenda is that society MUST accept, tolerate, agree with the demands of the most radical gays. So, they demand that a Christian owned bakery make them a cake, knowing full well that a lawsuit and the bankruptcy of the bakery will be the outcome. Of course, the gay cake eaters desired this result. This demand of a Christian bakery is no different… Read more »
The “love that dare not speak it’s name” is now “the love that just won’t Shut Up!”
Well said, ZMan. Know you’re too smart to expect any thanks from the other team for being honest with them. They aren’t into honesty. They’re into coziness. But coziness ain’t what we’re talking about here. Simple respect is.
Everyday you,me and most who visit here wake up we know who we are, the others wake up knowing they are not and never can be and it kills them inside and so they hate….makes me kind of happy!
I don’t know Zman, you rant sounds a lot like ‘They came for… but I was not… so I did nothing.’ As a straight white etc. I don’t care how queer the victims were they were murdered. We’re talking about people, American citizens. I don’t give a damn if they were queers, fuzzies, vegans or Crooked Hilary supporters They were gunned down by a foreign militant, US citizen or not, and as to your ; “I speak for most straight white guys in saying we’ll roll the dice with Mohamed.”, that you’d rather not convert to Islam but… -that’s down… Read more »
Like when the Romans left Britain. As they were packing up, the same leaders who had agitated for years against them appeared, saying, “But our enemies are massing, preparing to attack us….”
And the Roman commander replied, “You wished us gone, and so we are. Those coming to kill are no concern of ours now.”
(Heavily paraphrased from a Belmont Club article)
Us straight whiteys may not always “embrace” the gay lifestyle, but we are pretty good at accessing threats. And we are generally friendly to those who aren’t a threat to us and ours. For example, this call for volunteers willing to teach shooting basics to the gay community met with an overwhelming response.
http://www.chicksontheright.com/this-response-to-help-lgbt-people-learn-gun-safety-is-overwhelming/
I’m pro-gun so I’m happy to see the gays embracing the gun culture. But, let’s see if it is more than an act by a handful of showboats. My guess is the gays will back warring on the normies by the end of the summer.
It is in our interest to make the same call out to women.
It good you brought women into this. Men make no sense without women and its in our interests to be open to repairing our rift.
It’s a left-right thing, not a gay thing, even if gays are naturally promoted by the left.
Douglas Murray is one of the finest people battling against mass muslim immigration and there are prominent gays who dare to challenge their crappy leadership also on matters like same-sex parents.
There’s also an authoritarian-libertarian battle but it hasn’t been properly fleshed out.
Best to stick to ideology, not to ‘gay’ or ‘not gay’ on these issues.
Wow. Fuck you. You’re really a bad person. And I’m straight by the way. I’m just not a hateful ass like you.
You’re also uncommonly stupid.
I read some dime sci-fi book years ago where in an alternative universe the Muslims and Baptists of the US combined into a political force and made it illegal to dance, drink, and so on. It was rather amusing, if absurd. At any rate, as long as homos and Muslims are aligned in the same party that is aligned against me, why should I care when one takes the other out? This is my enemy having a civil war. I don’t see the gays abandoning the nihilist left, so the best that can happen is that they force the democratic… Read more »