Thug-ocracy

Yesterday the FBI Director detailed the many crimes perpetrated by the Hillary Clinton Gang at the State Department. My expectation has always been that this investigation would peter out over the summer, as that would be best for Team Clinton and Team Obama. The press could then bury it and be counted on to marginalize anyone who dared mention it. This is a familiar pattern in American politics. Plus there is the whole “Arkancide” issue where opponents of the Clintons die under mysterious circumstances.

Instead of watching it on television, I went to twitter and followed along as media people tweeted their impressions. The interesting thing was that the first wave of tweets were all about the hundreds of rather clear violations of the law that had been in the press for months. Then there was a wave of tweets along the lines of “my goodness, I think the FBI is going to announce an indictment.” Even liberals were struck by the weight of the evidence and the tone of the presentation.

Then there was a wave of gasps when he said he would not be calling for Clinton to be charged with the crimes he just listed. Even over twitter, you could feel the disconnect as people tried to wrap their heads around the bizarre contradictions. The man just detailed a mountain of crimes and then pivots around and says that no one would ever be indicted for these crimes. Yesterday was one of those times when even the most grizzled cynic was astonished at the craven cynicism on display.

History is full of events we look back upon as turning points. In some cases the people involved in the events were unaware of their significance. The Marian Reforms changed the course of Roman history, but the people at the time had no idea what was coming as a result. They seemed like much needed reforms in response to previous military disasters. Having politicians raise volunteer armies and then lead them against enemies was simply not working. No one imagined that these reforms would result in Sulla’s march on Rome.

The events of the last week or so, around Independence Day no less, feel like a big moment, like something has changed in the country. It started with Bill Clinton showing up for a private meeting with the Attorney General. That was followed by a long weekend interrogation of Hillary Clinton by the FBI. Then we have the Attorney General hinting that Clinton would not be charged and the President suddenly deciding to campaign with her. Yesterday the FBI details a long list of crimes and then says they will not seek charges.

At one level, it seems like the people in charge are rubbing our noses in the fact they are beyond the reach of the public. They are no longer going to pretend to be citizens of a republic, beholden to the voters. They are above the law and the proof of that is one of their own has committed hundreds of crimes and will not be required to step aside, much less be prosecuted. The law is for the Dirt People and it will be enforced by the Cloud People, but, the Cloud People will do as they please.

There’s another way to look at it. That is, the ruling class has lost control of the reigns and they can no longer police themselves. Hillary Clinton has no business being president. It’s absurd even without the massive corruption and criminality. Hillary’s crowning achievement was marrying Bill Clinton 50 years ago. Even a deeply corrupt and incompetent ruling class should be able to filter out the likes of Hillary Clinton. The fact that they cannot bring themselves to flush her from the system when they have an iron clad criminal case against her is ominous.

There’s another angle here. The whole “Arkanside” thing is a fun gag, but it does appear that the ruling class is playing much tougher with one another. Judge Roberts was either blackmailed or threatened into reversing his opinion on ObamaCare. That’s incandescently obvious. FBI Director Comey’s erratic performance yesterday suggests there’s more here than just a man suddenly changing his mind about law enforcement. He has prosecuted many others for these exact same crimes.

A lesson of history is that when ruling elites become unstable, they become thuggish. Rivals are no longer content to play by the agreed upon rules with the winners and losers showing grace to the other. Instead, politics becomes a blood-sport, where there are no limits on what one can do to win. The men who assassinated Julius Caesar probably did not think murder was a great idea. It’s just that it was better than all the others. They convinced themselves they had no choice because that was the only way to win.

There’s a byproduct to this. The ruling class loses the moral authority to rule. Once the ruling elite stops abiding by the laws, their only reason to rule is force. That’s not just an internal reality within the ruling elite; it is a reality within society as a whole. If Hillary Clinton were to become President, only fools would continue to abide by the laws. It would be a war of all against all within the ruling class and eventually, within society. The last few centuries of the Roman Empire featured endless warfare and revolts for this reason.

America is not the Roman Empire and this is not the Iron Age. It’s entirely possible that yesterday will be the point at which the American ruling class recoils at the madness they face. There’s not been the series of victory laps in the liberal media we tend to see when Democrats pull a fast one on the public. The old school liberals have been down on Clinton for a long time and this only confirms their opinions. The ship does not always slam into the iceberg. A Thug-ocracy is not inevitable.

That’s not the way to bet, however.

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el_baboso
Member
3 years ago

A few years ago, I asked myself two questions, and continue to ask them regularly: • Will the ruling class fight to hold on to power? (Obviously they won’t do it themselves… mercs, etc. are allowed) • Will the broad masses have any faith in democracy and free-ish markets after a major collapse? I still don’t have answers to either, though after yesterday, the answer to question one is a lot closer to “yes.” As you rightly point out, this isn’t the iron age and the “broad masses” aren’t illiterate plebs thought the ruling elites seem determined to import any… Read more »

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I suspect we will see the government turn guns against citizens. Maybe it’s planned for Cleveland? it will be a Boston Massacre or Kent State type of event. I still would not be surprised if Obama declared martial law and stayed in office. I don’t think Obama wants to stay on, but his handlers want him in office.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  notsothoreau
3 years ago

“I suspect we will see the government turn guns against citizens.” Respectfully, what do we call Waco, both of them then? How about LeVoy Finnicum, they executed the guy in cold blood, the same FBI that couldn’t find any criminal act in Hillary Clintons actions as SofS, never mind Mr. Finnicum’s fellow patriots who are being held as political prisoners for the last 6 months, no discovery, no bail, specious felonies made up by secret grand juries that not even the accused and their consul are permitted to peruse. Fast & Furious, Randy Weavers wife? The Bundy Ranch standoff? They… Read more »

Bubby Burbbruska
Bubby Burbbruska
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

LeVoy Finnicum, Randy Weaver, Waco Texas??? You better step back a lousy cotton pickin’ minute and try to remember why we have a government in the first place. Everybody wants to be free. Everybody wants liberty. But nobody wants some fucktard that thinks he’s Jesus to make babies with twelve year olds. Nobody wants some cowboy that thinks he’s decoded the Secret Constitution to take over a wildlife refuge. There are 320 billion people living in this country and 319,999,988 of them think LeVoy Finnicum, Randy Weaver, and David Jesus Fucking Christ Koresh deserved what they got. Thank you, government,… Read more »

Hank_M
Hank_M
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

“The government isn’t pointing guns at you.”
Then why are govt agencies arming themselves with military weapons?
Agencies like the Animal Health and Inspection Service, Smithsonian Institution, FDA and others we wouldn’t expect?

Bubby Burbbruska
Bubby Burbbruska
Reply to  Hank_M
3 years ago

Oh, this is going to be a good one! The Animal Health and Inspection Service, Smithsonian Institution, and FDA are coming after all you Randy Weaver, LeVoy Finnicum, and David Jesus Fucking Christ Koresh disciples. Obama’s going to become a dictator and just like Sulla he’s going to take over the capital and reform the constitution. The second amendment will be rephrased to “well-regulated aquariums” and “the right to keep and bear gold fish”. The Affordable Care Act will be amended to include the Tarpeian Rock. You better stock up on your ammo and explosives now because the gun powder… Read more »

Bubby Burbbruska
Bubby Burbbruska
Reply to  Hank_M
3 years ago

Oh, this is going to be a good one! The Animal Health and Inspection Service, Smithsonian Institution, and FDA are coming after all you Randy Weaver, LeVoy Finnicum, and David Jesus Fucking Christ Koresh disciples. Obama’s going to become a dictator and just like Sulla he’s going to take over the capital and reform the constitution. The second amendment will be rephrased to “well-regulated aquariums” and “the right to keep and bear gold fish”. The Affordable Care Act will be amended to include the Tarpeian Rock. You better stock up on your ammo and explosives now because the gun powder… Read more »

NunyaBusiness
NunyaBusiness
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

Well, if the news is any guide at all, the FDA is using their SWAT teams to raid Amish farms for selling raw milk. I expect that the Smithsonian will use their SWAT teams to put down anyone who puts nose prints on the display cases or tries to touch one of the aeroplanes hanging from the ceiling. Or maybe they’ll use them to protect that one booth in the concession area that sells the deep fried doughnuts. The Animal Inspection Service (which I’ve never heard of before, but whatever, there are probably hundreds of Federal bureaus that nobody’s ever… Read more »

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

Bubby, either your an agent provocateur, a professional troll, or a little cheese has fallen off your cracker.
Maybe all of the above.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

I’m not stepping back one bit friend. You can take that to the bank. You made yourself out to be a seriously hateful and heartless person at your statement LeVoy Finnicum deserving what he got. That is despicable. We are all in this together for better or worse. You are wrong, this is all our government and the problems we are facing is not resolved or excused thru summery execution of a fellow American who does not agree or stood up to those problems when no one else had the courage. You should be eternally ashamed of yourself. Sorry, but… Read more »

NunyaBusiness
NunyaBusiness
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

Yup, Vickie Weaver really had it coming, standing inside her own house holding an infant. Thank God Lon was there to put a bullet through her skull (narrowly missing a two for one with the child as well) and protect all gov’t loving Americans from her horrible infant carrying ways. I’ll tell you how dangerous Randy Weaver was: After they got done killing most of his family, almost killing him, and he was convinced to surrender, they hauled him into court where a jury of his peers acquitted him of all charges, except failure to show up in court the… Read more »

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

Another thing Bubby, Levoy Finnicum, and a whole lot of your fellow American’s myself included, as detestable as your comments are, free speech really out of respect for your liberty, is the kind of man who would have and did die to defend your liberty. He died for all our freedom from a repressive regime. Liberty for thee, liberty for me. We are all in this together friend. Because as soon as people think they got some special rights begin to decide who lives and who dies, we are all truly in serious trouble. Where does it end? Lots of… Read more »

PJ123
PJ123
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

As Heinlein noted, there are people who want others controlled, and people with no such desire. The former may imagine they love liberty, but they are deluding themselves. They are just the garden variety fascists or communists.

Col. B. Bunny
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

I never read a comment before that revealed that an American citizen has no problem with the federal government summarily executing other citizens. A US Marshall killed Weaver’s 14-y-o son, a known psychopathic killer, and his dog then the awesome FBI sniper Horiuchi took the FBI shoot-to-kill ROE to heart and blew off the jaw of the notorious low life Vicki Weaver. Finnicum was committing no crime but was shot down like a rabid dog. And incinerating those 12-year-olds as part of an armored assault on civilians is the way to handle whatever problems existed in that redoubt? What kind… Read more »

Sam J.
Sam J.
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

“… LeVoy Finnicum, Randy Weaver, and David Jesus Fucking Christ Koresh deserved what they got…”

That they violated the law doesn’t mean they should be executed. Weaver was in trouble for having a shotgun a inch or so less than legal length, Koresh for gun violations. Who knows if he raped anyone. As for Finnicum I could see shooting it out with him but not after he left and surrendered. I don’t yahoos should be able to enter and hold government property.

lawrence rosen
Reply to  notsothoreau
3 years ago

I have postulated for some time that O may seek a reason to declare martial law and cancel elections. I have been called many names because of this. The fact that he says he cannot wait to return to private life does not mean that he means it. We shall see.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  lawrence rosen
3 years ago

In all the insanity of the thug-ocracy, who knows what kind of things they will do to keep the reigns of power firmly in their grasp. Nothing seems beyond the pale, and they grow more overt in their violations of the fundamental foundation of republican form of government. The other day was reading a comment on another blog somebody said Clinton could select obama as her VP, then upon being sworn in as POTUS, resign and hand the throne back to him. Far fetched as it sounds, after doing some brief research there is nothing that prohibits such a scenario… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
Reply to  lawrence rosen
3 years ago

That’s what all the College Profs used to say about Nixon back in the day.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  el_baboso
3 years ago

It is through the faith of democracy that we find ourselves exactly where we are, foreign and domestic. Democracy is not Divine. Faith is religious. The Progressive faith is democracy. Democracy works for the citizen only when it is tightly wrapped in the chains of constitution. It would be the greatest misfortune to fight a war, cold or hot, to arrive at exactly the point which we left.

el_baboso
Member
Reply to  el_baboso
3 years ago

Maybe it takes something like a self-immolation or an old guy with a spear to set it off. I think I’ve speculated here that we’ve kind of reached a critical mass of opiod and and anti-depressant use and that that produces a condition similar to Brave to New World’s soma. I also speculate that the idea of “America” has become somewhat like the idea of “Rome.” We still had “Caesars” until 1918, and I often suspect that the EU is just the latest attempt to resurrect that rotted corpse. Maybe folks just cannot imagine a world without America. None of… Read more »

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
3 years ago

Those of us dealing with the bureaucratic thugs on the Left Coast would tell you it’s already here.I think, unfortunately, that we will see blood shed over this in the near future. The government agencies are arming up for it.

Bubby Burbbruska
Bubby Burbbruska
Reply to  notsothoreau
3 years ago

I gut my ammo and I gut my esploseeves. Jus let toes pink commies run the gubbermint; aisle gib m wut fer! Carcetty crubnut wid dem side o molleses I tell u wut.

Jus koon ad me yer yeller sadddl fwut. Fug em soshitlis; eyes gub meye reyefull ants eyes ants afrade ti yoose its

Donal Trump fer perkskedant!!!

vanderleun
Member
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

In the future, Bubby, strive to be less of a chancred sphincter. Thanking you in advance.

millard fillmore
millard fillmore
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

You write like a Hillary voter.Nobody who understands the language,or has an I.Q. above their shoe size really supports Hillary.

Maxi Dean
Maxi Dean
Reply to  Bubby Burbbruska
3 years ago

Here’s one for the witless troll:
https://youtu.be/sgPjmfTOQrs

Drake
Drake
3 years ago

Was around some leftists last weekend. They seemed schizophrenic – completely unable to process how bad a candidate their wagon was hitched on to, yet unable to do anything except talk politics. I felt kind of bad and worried for them. When I tried following their ideas to their logical conclusions, they freaked and changes subjects (talking points really).

Shelby
Shelby
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

I wonder about our worn down military. What if the seals and special forces decide not to trust her with the security they must have? I could not blame them. They have suffered too many losses under questionable circumstances. Not a good time to have a toothless pack of jackals in congress.

Severian
Reply to  Shelby
3 years ago

That’s my worry too. The US military has a long tradition of not playing politics…. at least, according to them. The election of 1864 says otherwise. Not everyone at the Pentagon is a fool; not all staff officers are time-servers. I’d expect it in Europe before here, but at some point, the Army is going to have to get nakedly political to protect itself. That won’t be fun. It’ll be interesting to see who Trump starts touting as his future cabinet — the VP pick will (or should be) a sop to actual conservatives (say, Jeff Sessions)… but what if… Read more »

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

He has actually mentioned two generals as potential VPs. Hasn’t given out the names.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  notsothoreau
3 years ago

At this point, with the house cleaning Obozo has done of any good military leaders, I hope those “generals” are “retired.” I would have my doubts about anyone currently serving at the pleasure of this doofus.

Normandy Blanchard
Normandy Blanchard
Reply to  LetsPlay
3 years ago

Yeah, the president has gotten rid of all the good military leaders and replaced them with buffoons so now our troops won’t be able to defend themselves when the spear chuckers show up.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Ivar
Ivar
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Don’t confuse the U.S. Armed Forces with, say, the German Army of 1926. Our military is full of squirrels, top to bottom. Some can do more pushups than others. The good news is that the military is so ill-disciplined, so ill-trained. so socially engineered and so poorly led that if the Powers that Be attempt to use it to put the hammer down, nobody knows what will happen.

Severian
Reply to  Ivar
3 years ago

Which was exactly the problem in 1933 with the German Army. The deciding factor in making Hitler Chancellor was the army’s declaration that they probably couldn’t put down a nationalist putsch should the Nazis get frozen out of the cabinet. Would the Army actually deploy to put down domestic insurrection? Would the National Guard actually fire on protestors? As I say, I’d expect it in Europe before here, but I’m certain we’re going to get the answers to those questions much sooner than later. And one doesn’t get to be a general by being bad at politics. You don’t need… Read more »

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The National Guard actually had the support of most folks when they fired at Kent State. People were tired of the rioting, especially on campus. We aren’t there yet, but the conventions are coming up and we have two shootings that should start protests this week.

Severian
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

The “revolt of the generals” scenario is largely what I was getting at. As the Cloud People move ever further from the Dirt People, they forget that the Dirt People make up the Other Ranks. Not all generals are Cloud People (or, at least, some still have sufficient contact with Dirt People to remember this basic fact). A few generals letting President Hillary know that thus-and-such is out of the question would be… interesting, to say the least.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

You have to think like a globalist. That is what “Peace Keepers” are for. Round up some particularly fearsome solders from various banana republics, put a blue surf helmet on them, promise them land and white skinned brides, and send them into the “Unsecured Spaces” with a few levels of plausible deniability, like having “Special Agents” from the ATF or FBI operate as handlers with cutouts right to the oval office, to help quell the white southern racists killing and enslaving black lives matter and transgender cry bullies.
Stalin had great success killing the Kulaks off, it is pogrom 101.

james wilson
james wilson
3 years ago

The remarkable career, riches, malfeasance, and continual promotion of Jamie Gorelick must alone convince us that permanent government is corrupt at the root. Hillary’s rise reaffirms what needs no proof, that incapacity is no bar and failure a recommendation. It is reassuring to the millions employed in government to know that all are safe from judgement.

UKer
UKer
3 years ago

From this side of the great puddle, I would have thought that such a brazen act to not formally charge Madame Clinton would if anything propel those who are undecided about which way to vote in November to definitely NOT vote for the escapee. Maybe most people have made up their minds, but although outrageous is a much-overused word these days, this craven decision is exactly that. I am, as we say over here, gobsmacked. But perhaps I shouldn’t be given the nature of politics. Our fears in the UK is that the government here has a clear direction from… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  UKer
3 years ago

I don’t think this did Hillary any good other than keep her in the race. In some ways, it is the best thing that could have happened to Trump.

If Hillary had been indicted, she would be replaced with a far more electable candidate. Instead, she was damaged, her lies exposed, and Trump supplied with a massive amount of ammo to use against her.

Nancy Beauchamp
Nancy Beauchamp
Reply to  Drake
3 years ago

Yeah, because we all know that Trump is going to win. President Trump! What the fuck is wrong with all you jackasses? The United States of America is going to elect an orange faced weasel that never had to work a day in his life? Didn’t we already suffer eight years of a man that could not string a sentence together; a man that practically bankrupted the country before riding off into the sunset? President Trump! You’re all a bunch of fucking ass clowns belly moaning about how the government is against you. Is that the best your pathetic minds… Read more »

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  Nancy Beauchamp
3 years ago

go back to playing with your dildo. stupid.

Shelby
Shelby
Reply to  LetsPlay
3 years ago

Bless her heart. Does anyone have a mydol ?

Maxi Dean
Maxi Dean
Reply to  Shelby
3 years ago

No, but here’s a placebo:

https://youtu.be/sgPjmfTOQrs

Member
Reply to  Nancy Beauchamp
3 years ago

Nancy is the poster child for the old adage “You can’t fix stupid.”

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Nancy Beauchamp
3 years ago

Know why telling me not to vote for Donald Trump, or Donald Trump would not make a decent President is wrong? It is not because you are right or wrong, but because you are wrong because you are telling me I have to do something against my best interests. And nothing, nothing could be as wrong as that.

Col. B. Bunny
Reply to  Nancy Beauchamp
3 years ago

You seem upset about something.

Scotch Mooch
Scotch Mooch
3 years ago

Yeah, we Americans are being played by a couple of Arkansas crumb bums that are in cahoots with the media to take over the world. The FBI does not recommend strapping them up by their toes and stoning them? What’s the world coming to? How am I ever going to watch I Dream of Jennie in my underwear when these bastards are coming to take my guns away while shoving their health insurance down my damn throat? Here come the dictators with their jigaboo junkies and fascist feminists scrapping the prosperity of the country to charcoal. If Hillary’s elected the… Read more »

millard fillmore
millard fillmore
Reply to  Scotch Mooch
3 years ago

They’ll never pay you for such an ignorant post.Even the democrats have standards.Not high ones,not good ones,but standards of propaganda.

notsothoreau
notsothoreau
3 years ago

Here’s the other thing I think about. It used to be that, when a new President took office, they cleared out the government bureaucrats and installed people they owed favors to. It was corrupt and offices were filled by the unqualified. It did mean that the bureaucracy was purged. We need to go back to peacefully purging the bureaucracy, before we have to resort to violence.

joe
joe
Reply to  notsothoreau
3 years ago

The civil service act of 1883 needs to go. Instead of ending the partisanship of the civil service, it has made the civil service all partisans of one side only – the big government party. Imagine if every bureaucrat manager had to fear an opposing partisan taking over his office and looking for malfeasance to prosecute, with the power to fire any employee who didn’t help. If we went back to the “spoils system” the best job insurance would be competence and strict impartiality. .

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
Reply to  joe
3 years ago

In the early 1900’s an amendment to the Constitution imposed upon the citizens of the USA a personal and corporate income tax.( Prior to about 1919 or so, there was no income tax of any sort.) That was the beginning of the end of our Constitutional Republic, for it allowed the Federal Government to spend, literally, unlimited amounts of the earnings confiscated from the citizenry. The massive revenue generated by this tax funded and still funds EVERY federal agency and has allowed the Congress to abrogate its responsibilities as the sole law making branch of government. The vast majority of… Read more »

James LePore
3 years ago

I doubt the ruling class will recoil at the madness. They have much to fear from the Clinton Mafia. If Roberts and Comey can be threatened into submission, then anybody can. I fear for Donald Trump’s life.

Fuel Filter
Fuel Filter
3 years ago

This today from the great Diana West:
~~~~~~~~
Of course, “FBI Director” Comey will not recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. But that is not what is worst about this latest wretched day in American history. 

What child, what babe, what fuzzy bunny ever expected that he would? Who among us examined the facts of the case as they emerged and rested assured that Justice would be done — that is, done blindly, with no special-case, extra-stretchy, wink-wink regard for the Clintons?
~~~~~~~~~

Read the whole thing here:

http://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/3362/Dictatorship-of-the-Clintontariat.aspx

Uncola
Uncola
3 years ago

“Once the ruling elite stops abiding by the laws, their only reason to rule is force.” So true. Regarding this travesty, you are either referencing history or foreshadowing the future. Time always tells.

Robert Cumadgery
Robert Cumadgery
3 years ago

We’ve got no choice but to cower beneath the Clinton muscle. They’re bringing in Syrians just to eat the babies. They will poison the water of the State Capital and replace all the statesmen with cock sucking porn stars. Even Newt Gingrich and Chris Christie have their balls in a vice and Trump is being forced to choose a Trans running mate that he’s going to have to kiss on TV while the whole world watches.

Fuel Filter
Fuel Filter
3 years ago

Here’s another take from Diplomad 2.0 This also is something a lot of the folk over at theconservativetreehouse are talking about.   This is an outake from the middle of his post: ~~~~~~~ Whatever his own “intent,” however, Comey has slipped Hillary a poison political pill mixed in with the heady “no prosecution” bourbon. In the first 12 or 13 minutes of his presser, Comey described a factual situation and a pattern of behavior by Clinton far, far worse than most of us had imagined. Everything, absolutely everything, Hillary said about this matter is a demonstrable lie. Comey called her… Read more »

James LePore
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I agree, when you’re explaining you’re losing. He should be in attack mode at all times.

Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

As some wag pointed out, Trump is the only revolution we’re gonna get.

Revolutions are messy, by definition.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  Fuel Filter
3 years ago

I think this is exactly the case. While he patted Hillary on the shoulder and told her “no problem” he nicked her carotid artery ever so slightly as he removed his hand and she will die a slow death. She thinks she won but she is “Dead Woman Walking.” Politically speaking. As for Comey, he didn’t exactly fall on his sword but I am sure hist gesture did not go unnoticed. How long he has to live … well, we will see. As I have learned, “not all is as it appears.”

Kathryn of Wyoming
Member
Reply to  Fuel Filter
3 years ago

So far all he’s done with this is a brief tweet and then a lot of talk about Saddam Hussein being a terrific terrorist killer. In fact, every time he has a chance to take advantage of another Hillary revelation he instantly deflects discussion from it with another of his insane accusations/speculations/conspiracy theories that have nothing at all to do with the latest atrocity committed by She Who Must Be Obeyed so the media quickly runs after that garbage.

Doug
Doug
3 years ago

I personally find it liberating. Of all the insidious constructs of this system of administrative tyranny to do so, it is serendipity the FBI, what was billed in it’s birth as the penultimate arbitrator of enforcing the rule of law, declared not only it and every component of the state lawless, “officially”, they declared a state of Anarchy exists. Mark my words, they did a coup on themselves. They are so utterly corrupted by what they are, so blinded by trying to survive their illegitimacy, they don’t even know they are their own worst enemy. If you want to know… Read more »

Dorf
Dorf
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

Kinda frightening this freedom thing. I don’t think the Deamon-Crats can handle it….

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Dorf
3 years ago

Yes, salient point. Lot of people are afraid of freedom. You have to be very accountable and responsible if you are truly free. It scares the bejesus out of some folks. But that is the beauty of rightful liberty, you are responsible, for what you do. Is there need for the state as we know it when people live true liberty? I think one of the possible futures small is nation states, possibly similar to the Compact of Confederation arise. There are already grass roots movements towards small nation states. The Free State Project in NH, Texit, the communities coalescing… Read more »

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

In my experience a promiscuous love of freedom is abundant. Too many who love freedom fear liberty. It should be the other way around.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  james wilson
3 years ago

James, can you convey your thoughts in another way? Asking you because I’m not sure what your saying, and it seems like a very important idea your trying to express.

james wilson
james wilson
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

You have inherited the several rights necessary to successfully work for the innumerable necessities and pleasures of life, and likely are responsible for family as well. That is liberty. A successful criminal has perfect freedom. He gets up when he wants, sleeps when he wants, takes what he wants when he wants it. The freedom from want is part of the living Constitution, circa 1933. Rights that are measured in personal responsibilities are liberty.

fodderwing
fodderwing
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

I have read many comments on this and other sites that it’s time to withdraw our consent from this government, and I’ve been wanting to ask what that would look like. You gave a pretty good description.

Meema
Reply to  fodderwing
3 years ago

There is a growing number of communities all over this country that are self-ruled under sharia. The no-go zones. If they can do it, why can’t we? Or is that just crazy talk?

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Meema
3 years ago

Sharia law isn’t self rule, it is about as draconian subservience to a cult as it gets, so me personally I couldn’t even begin to compare liberty to it. But that is just me. Secession and Abolition crazy? A crazy idea sovereignty of the people, shall not be infringed, and unalienable God given rights of liberty and self determination is wrong and not possible? Heh. Now lets see, mmm, wasn’t there a bunch of guys from about 1680’s through the 1700’s who had the same crazy ideas, they sure where some sacked out extremists. Seems like they where pretty successful… Read more »

Notsothoreau
Notsothoreau
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

Got this from “Road to Serfdom”. Areas that are free are messy. Areas run by central planning look like architects drawings. When we watch shows on tv, we look for areas that are junky. No Code Enforcement there.

Doug
Doug
Reply to  fodderwing
3 years ago

May I recommend this short story to you. As you say, “it is a pretty good description”, of withdrawal of consent. It also has within it’s pages “the most powerful weapon ever devised.” I read it as a kid, and the idea of consent in Frank Russell’s masterpiece has stayed with me to this day 50 years later. It is a fun yarn too. Russell also wrote ‘Wasp’, an entertaining instructional fiction on defiance to the state. ‘And Then There Were None’ http://www.abelard.org/e-f-russell.php There is a really dynamic fellow up in Idaho, goes by the avatar John Mosby, (the original… Read more »

AmazingAz
AmazingAz
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

Many thanks for “And Then There Were None.” …I Won’t!

Dan
Dan
Member
Reply to  Doug
3 years ago

Well said, Doug!

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Dan
3 years ago

That John Mosby who wrote the bit about joining the honorable resistance is a really sweet hearted guy. I think he is probably tougher than woodpecker lips when it comes to combat, but he has this heart of gold. If you don’t know of him, I believe he was one of if not the first ex military combat veterans to train every day citizen’s in armed defense using small unit infantry tactics. Here’s his blog: https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com There is another fellow along the same lines as John, Max velocity, Max has a training complex in Romney WV. http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com Both guys have… Read more »

Nunnya Bidnez, jr
Nunnya Bidnez, jr
3 years ago

“That is, the ruling class has lost control of the reigns”
I see what you did there.

I think you meant “rains”.
Sure is hot in here.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
3 years ago

Even the Zhou emperors were reminded that they ruled through the mandate of Heaven… these folks have lost sight of that

Doug
Doug
Reply to  Saml Adams
3 years ago

Now that Mandate of Heaven is a great and relative parable to our times. The Mandate of heaven is a funny thing when corrupted. It works in reverse. The further the spirit advances in the thought and act of defiance to tyrants, the greater the increase of adversarial nature to eradicating that defiance and resistance becomes. It is an evolution of insurgency that is required, and that it comes in stages, at some point the equation changes, from one of being a subject to tyranny, to one of subjecting tyrants to the motive energy of being so free, freedom can… Read more »

Glenn
Glenn
3 years ago

Pushing 80. No grandchildren. Great life mostly behind me. Pass the popcorn.

vanderleun
Member
Reply to  Glenn
3 years ago

Glenn, Promoted that to: Comment of the Year (So Far) over in my sidebar.

LetsPlay
LetsPlay
Member
Reply to  Glenn
3 years ago

Dumbfu*k! Why are you still above ground and not pushing up daisys? You are a worthless POS if that is your attitude. All you care about is that you have no grandkids to suffer the future and you had a great ride!? Well, go to hell. You are an example of what is wrong with this country. I think it is a blessing you did not have any grandchildren. I hope the butter on your popcorn is rancid and you are out of salt.

Glenn
Glenn
Reply to  LetsPlay
3 years ago

Turn your snark detector on.

cali
cali
3 years ago

Spot-on analysis! Whatever took place behind the scenes forcing Comey into his strange news conference or as you so eloquently put it ‘erratic’ ended up being the message that the privileged will not face any consequences for their criminal actions. There is no way that Comey and his agents spend as much time as they did to come to such a conclusion of ‘innocence’. The IG report released earlier painted Hillary Clinton as someone not following the rule of law – how could the FBI find her innocent and yet listing her crimes at the same time. I no longer… Read more »

Kimbery Gold
Kimbery Gold
Reply to  cali
3 years ago

Comey was forced to conclude not to indict the former Secretary of State because the argument had too many big words that he did not understand. How can you defend yourself against the elite one-world-order when you can’t even pronounce it?

We need to put knuckle heads in charge. Why use hollow point bullets when you can use sticks and stones? We can slash the tires of all those Midwest tractors and trailers with kitchen knives. Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.

cmblake6
3 years ago

Well, it’s been a while. 240 years was a good run…

Doug
Doug
Reply to  cmblake6
3 years ago

Was a good run? This is country is greatest place on God’s green Earth. It is also our home. There is no other place. Dude, this ain’t over by a long shot. Not if people never say die. What? A bunch of psychopaths and crooks have power over me they can take my liberty? I don’t think so, over my dead cold body. Long as even one person keeps liberty alive it ain’t over.

Member
3 years ago

“Arkancide”

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
3 years ago

One consolation of this affair is that we need not worry about Putin blackmailing President Hillary with the contents of her servers (plural !?). Blackmail only works if the mark has some sense of shame or something to fear from the legal system from exposure. We know from 40+ years of exposure that Hilary has no sense of shame. And now we know she need have no fear of the legal system. Perfect_!

Diane D
Diane D
3 years ago

The biggest problem with gun-control is that Patriots have been controlling their with silence theirs while DC destroyed our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

PJ123
PJ123
3 years ago

“The ruling class loses the moral authority to rule. Once the ruling elite stops abiding by the laws, their only reason to rule is force. That’s not just an internal reality within the ruling elite; it is a reality within society as a whole.” It’s at least arguable that the ruling class never *have* abided by the laws, and that we are only now becoming aware of it, via the Internet, a communication tool that was not available in the old days. It will be interesting to see them try to rule only through force, dispensing with all pretense of… Read more »

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3 years ago

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