Friends and Enemies

For well over a year now, I have been talking about the Trump Effect™ and how it may be the single most important part of this election. Don’t get me wrong, Clinton winning is most certainly the end of America as an on-going concern. She will invite in 50 million foreigners, confiscate guns, auction off everything that is not nailed down in exchange for cash to her slush fund. She will weaponize the court by packing it with coreligionists. America will have become a banana republic and there is no peaceful way of returning from it.

That may be the end result, even if Trump wins the election, but what comes next will include a whole lot of people who are now fully aware of the reality of the political class. There are exponentially more people “fully woke” now than a year ago. Official Conservatism™ is circling the bowl, largely because the grassroots have looked around and decided guys like Jonah Goldberg are just low-tax liberals who hold them in contempt.

For a long time, the Cloud People have told the Dirt People that the great divide in America is between Liberals, who want to expand government and create a socialist utopia, and Conservatives that wish to restore limited government and a constitutional republic. The Bush administration put the lie to the latter and the mobilization of Wall Street behind someone’s wife in order to block Trump puts the lie to the former. Old school Progressive like Bernie Sanders are now outsiders on the Left.

In fact, among the Cloud People there is no divide. They unanimously agree that class solidarity comes before everything else. That’s made clear in this editorial from the Arizona Republic endorsing someone’s wife.

The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.

That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president.

This is the new team chant of Official Conservatism™. The logic here is akin to saying “They don’t have my favorite ice cream so I’m going to have rat poison instead.”

Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads.

That’s beneath our national dignity.

By “our dignity” they are not speaking for you. You are not “our” and you better get that through your thick head.

Trump’s long history of objectifying women and his demeaning comments about women during the campaign are not just good-old-boy gaffes.

They are evidence of deep character flaws. They are part of a pattern.

These are not the words of serious people thinking seriously about the country. These are the words of teenage girls gossiping about one another in the bathroom. That’s what is dawning on many Dirt People. These feckless airheads allegedly carrying the people’s banner in the media are more concerned with their status among the beautiful people than anything else. There is no divide among the Cloud People. They think the Dirt People are revolting.

And increasingly the Dirt People are revolting. Even people like Ace of Spades are moving toward a break with Official Conservatism™ and the GOP.

The party — not just the party;the writers who are supposed to have telling the truth as their first mission, but instead of become nonstop liars all the time decrying Trump as a liar himself — has declared war on all of the Lessers beneath their station, those not in The Media and who should, therefore, not have quite as much of a say in things as they themselves have.

They’ve made themselves into exactly what they pretend to oppose — and exactly what I do in fact oppose.

Guys like Jim Geraghty, and other NR-types, used to quote Ace all the time, but now they don’t know his name. The reason is class loyalty. Ace has his ideas and loyalty to the managerial class is simply not a concern. Given the choice between Trump and Clinton, he rationally picks Trump. For the National Review types, this is treason. Class loyalty trumps everything or else, so Ace is now dead to them.

The sadness and frustration you see in that Ace post turns up all over as people begin to see the reality of their condition. More than a few look back at their support for Bush, for example, and wonder how all those big shots in conservative media were so wrong. They wonder why they never talk about it, much less admit it. The conclusion many are making is that it was just a scam, a con, a way to turn the virtue of conservative voters into a vice in support of the Progressive project.

Eric Hoffer wrote “What starts out here as a mass movement ends up as a racket, a cult, or a corporation.” That’s what happened with the conservative movement. By the 1980’s they had their charismatics, Reagan and Buckley. Next came the money making opportunities in talk radio and book selling. By the time Bush came along it was a racket, a bust out, where the only real concern was how much money these people could stuff into their pockets before the game was up.

The game is up now and the Dirt People are waking up to it.

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Severian
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Karl Marx, that bastard, was right after all –it’s class uber alles. The Cloud People are just the willing idiots of the capitalists, a.k.a. the bourgeoisie. As irony is the social disease which will finally kill us, it’s fitting that the Gramscian long march through the institutions ends up with the bolshevik utopians frantically stuffing their pockets with cash one step ahead of the firing squad. Think I’ll go drink Drano now.

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Herzog

It’s the way of least resistance for the “elites,” it’s their choice to sell out their dirty fellow countrymen, not a law of nature like gravity. Meaning that they are still guilty if they do it, and worthy of eventual retribution.

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I think James Burnham’s riff on Marx was closer. The upper 5% will stick together to maintain their power. The next15% is the greatest threat to the 5%. The bottom 80% will never develop class consciousness so the 5% will buy them off with bread and circuses in a freeish society. The greatest threat to the 5% is always the middle 15%. My analysis based on Burnham’s model is that meritocracy and upward mobility were supposed to be the mechanisms to placate the middle 15%. These have broken down so the 5% has resorted to trying to co-opt the middle… Read more »

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The media strikes me as the modern equivalent of minor barons. They have higher status, if not means, than the average peasant or merchant or tradesman, but they serve entirely at the pleasure of king. Unlike the English dukes of old, who had extensive land, private armies and often powerful blood claims to the throne, the minor barons have little of value on their own. They are desperate to maintain position, or else they have nothing.

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The 5% is the Inner Party, the 15% is the Outer Party and the rest is the Proles. Orwell got it right when he wrote 1984 in 1948.

Calsdad
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Calsdad

Define “capitalists”. Because I have to say : the use of term is a trigger word as far as I am concerned because it CONSTANTLY gets used by Marxists to push their agenda. I was born with nothing – so all I have in the end ….. is my own human capital to exchange with others to accumulate wealth. The difference between true capitalists and socialists/marxists – is that they believe that capital belongs to ME, not to somebody else (my “better”) , and I am therefore able to do with that capital what I wish. That is the core… Read more »

Severian
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I’m using it in Marx’s sense, i.e. the dirty bastards that control everything that everyone hates (Soros, the Koch brothers, et al). The ur-example being Faceberg – he runs a company that literally makes **nothing**, yet he has a presidential candidate in his pocket. I hope it’s clear that I’m not offering a closely reasoned discourse on Dialectical Materialism here — Marx was right about the big picture, while getting all the details comically wrong.

CaptDMO
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Faceburg makes nothing?
Oh my. Don’t be silly.
He “makes” …the bakeries and the circus arena.
He makes the illusion of mattering…um…matter.
(Where they “overcharge” for a bread hot dog roll.)

Moose
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The final NO to relativism’s blessing on barbarity will only come with the Christian mind.

BillH
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BillH

Liberté, égalité, fraternité.

Andy Texan
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For the first time I empathize with French peasants of 1789.

Brooklyn
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Brooklyn

The elites haven’t been able to win increasingly at anything and they are running out of money to paper things over. Victory and wealth would probably cover over the issues we are all complaining about. If we’d won in Iraq nobody would have cared about how fair or unfair going into that war was. If the money was still flowing no one would care about colleges becoming insane asylums or mass immigration because you could afford to skip it or move away from it. Thats the reason more people are waking up to the situation now; nothing focuses the mind… Read more »

Dorf
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Dorf

A minor point… If we’d won in Iraq nobody…. The O declared that we won and then HE shipped out.

Brooklyn
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Brooklyn

He declared that we won but nobody sane believed that; real victory would have buried criticism. Declaring victory without winning is just political word games.

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I posted in the comments on Ace, multiple times, that this is about class. Then I got tired of beating my head against that wall. One of the worst moments for me was when I realized that folks on the Right looked down on me, just like folks on the Left. I wonder if this is why Trump is winning some support from blacks and Hispanics.

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He and I have been friendly for about 8-9 yrs now, he’s a great guy, introspective thinker, but he’s very caught up in the class status apparatus among his peer group in his IRL in NYC. I find it so frustrating, I’d love to see him turn off the never ending navel gazing & garment rendering & just feel the hot burn of righteous indignation. It’s impossible for me to understand this kind of thinking, of Ace’s. I like to think it’s my dogged insistence to be independently minded w/ some old school rebellious punkness held over from the 70s,… Read more »

Brooklyn
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Steve Sailer likes to troll the elite who secretly read him (especially the liberal Jewish elite) by mentioning that Israel is a society that is worth seriously studying but the reality is that they had an era of total elite madness too, back in the 1990s. When the Oslo Peace Process broke out, the right there kept asking serious questions about national interest that nobody wanted to listen to them. Peace was around the corner! Hadn’t they heard? It was this era when Israel got itself an African refugee problem too. (The twitter slogan of Open Boarders for Israel is… Read more »

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Their elites may have had their moments, but looking at what they have done for their people over the last 50 years brings up: – Negotiated a country-sized land of their preference to build their nation; – Obtained modern Western weapons, including tanks, jet fighters, and the nukes; – Led the military defence of their land and the expansion of it at the expense of their enemies; – Secured the nation through constitutional and physical (walls) means; – Got the most powerful country in the world to support them financially, politically, and militarily via unfriendly government replacements in the region… Read more »

Brooklyn
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I didn’t say that the elite in Israel was always mad or that it is currently mad; only that they had a run of crazy in the late 1990s that is worth examining in light of our own situation. (I could have put up something about the elite in another country like South Africa but since Shimon Peres being buried was in the news, this was on my mind.) Many of the points that you list were carried out by the founding father generation of that country, a type of elite that is much more inclined to seek success because… Read more »

Striver
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@Brooklyn Thank you for the reply. Clearly you know much more about their history and their situation, while I just look on and think “damn, I wish our elites had that much of noblesse oblige”. If their founding elites felt betrayed back in the 70s it must have been the reverse of the our predicament. After all, some of them actually put their lives on the line for the nation. When was the last time an American president did the same? “but an important thing to remember is that the only reason they have it now is that they started… Read more »

Striver
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To add on the 1910s: consider that this is the period when they abandoned the isolationist stance sending the citizens to die in a foreign war, abandoned the sovereign money, and adopted the wide open immigration. Three monumentally disastrous policies in just one decade – they must have worked overtime to accomplish that.

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A.T. Tapman (Merica)

Immigration was restricted from 1921 to 1965. The Hart Celler act of 1965 focused on flooding America with third world parasites by mean of “family reunification”. The prime movers behind this treason were (((Emanuel Celler))) of NYC and of course Teddy Kennedy. May all good men curse their names forever.

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There was a lull over those years, that’s true, and quite possibly in recoil to the speed with which the fabric of society was being transformed in the 1910s. But it was only a matter of time: the idea of the melting pot was already in existence.

Brooklyn
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“To add on the 1910s: consider that this is the period when they abandoned the isolationist stance sending the citizens to die in a foreign war, abandoned the sovereign money, and adopted the wide open immigration.” The US fought the Spanish-American war long before the 1910s plus had a bunch of military interventions in Central America and the Caribbean. The US also pretty much had unrestrained immigration for the whole of the 19th century. I don’t disagree that a series of problems can trace some groundwork to the Progressive era but I suppose you could say that then the elites… Read more »

Christopher S. Johns
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Caroline Glick has written a brilliant article, The Twilight of American Jewry, outlining the collective decision of the Republican Jewish establishment to, in her words, “commit political suicide” this election year, and expresses her doubts that they will ever recover from it:

http://carolineglick.com/twilight-of-american-jewry/

Well worth reading.

Brooklyn
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Brooklyn

I still for the life of me can’t understand Bill Kristol and the Jewish Republicans of NeverTrump. The only thing I can figure is that they imagine that Trump was going to be a bigger wipeout than Goldwater but making a bet with no retreat to it is just politically crazy. As for Jewish Republicans, I think that its probably healthier for the current crop of “leaders” to be put out to pasture. Part of it is demographics; they Jews who are going to be the future Jewish community don’t come from the non-Orthodox who currently dominate the “leadership”. With… Read more »

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His daughter and son in law are on the leftmost fringe of Orthodox Judaism, which has become much more stringent in the last couple decades. On the whole it’s a very right wing bunch, and they’re the ones having kids these days. That said, most of the very secular Jews I know had observant grandparents or great grandparents. Some share of children raised in Orthodox homes have long dropped into more liberal streams, though there are signs that’s abating.

Lulu
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Lulu

Superciliousness. Goldberg drips it.

Didn’t Geraghty used to be the class clown at NRO, the guy who was never supposed to write about anything serious (unsaid: because he just wasn’t equipped to handle that stuff)?

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In all western politics today the desire to drive the responsible voter away (and in some cases bring in lots of irresponsible voters to replace them) will be recognised in time as one of the fractures in the keystone of our society’s triumphal arch that eventually brought the gate and the wall tumbling down. I find it odd that the Right are of the same mind as the Left in this. I had hoped conservatives might see the pitfalls and errors that the unthinking socialists and ‘progressives’ continually make and try to avoid them, but apparently they are so alluring… Read more »

james wilson
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james wilson

There is and can be no responsible voting under universal suffrage. The most important issues of our age cannot be voted upon because they cannot even be spoken about. It took a buffoon to do that, and now he is the nominee. We are reduced to defining progress in this way under universal suffrage. I will take it.

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Well written. I wonder too about all the newspaper endorsements if that isn’t more of who’s been buying up papers and radio stations. They didn’t flex their muscles so blatenly before, but it’s kinda out in the open now., ie, the am radio news blurbs during talk radio are written by cloud folks… usually heavy in PC/MSM agitprop. ( they frame the stories on the news the way they want to etc ). Re: Ace. .. read that site daily from 2003 till this last May, and since then no more. Ace finally pushed me away with his non-stop #nevertrump… Read more »

Notsothoreau
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The thing that killed Ace for me was the Idaho primary. Ace kept saying Trump would win, because Idaho is full of white supremacists. Those of us that had actually been to Idaho kept trying to tell him that it’s not like that. He stopped talking about it when Cruz won.

Nori
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Still visit Ace of Spades daily,longtime commenter MP4 wrote an excellent story of early Hollywood a couple of days ago,well worth the read.Ace can be a cantankerous fellow,step out of line and he’ll drag you into the public square,flay you with a cat o’ 9 tails,and leave your skeletal remains as a warning for all to see.It is his site,and his logo is a fair warning.Ace is a thinking man,well aware of the godawful mess this world is in. His Flaming Skulls are brilliant. Not a criticism of other comments,all are fair. Just sayin’,don’t give up on Ace.

Solomon Honeypickle IV
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Solomon Honeypickle IV

Fukk Ace, the blubbery cuck

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joe_mama

Good summation on Ace. Yeah, he became completely unreadable when he went full NeverTrump last spring. The sad part was, he was always a hanger-on to the “elite”, the professional pundits. You could tell he was never quite part of the club, but he desperately wanted to be. He carried their water for them and pushed away a great deal of his viewership.

By the time the general rolled around, he at least showed some principle in backing the nominee, but his elite friends were nowhere to be found.

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Your experience with Ace mimics mine almost entirely. I saw that piece he put up the other day linked elsewhere and that was the first time I’d visited his site in months. And to tell the truth, my reaction to it was a tad less than charitable. He acted like a complete d**k to anyone who had dared to say anything similar all summer long. And mind you, I never really posted anything there other than a quip or two but a big reason to go there in first place was to read the comments. After he started going after… Read more »

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RDittmar…. he went LGF… the irony was not lost on me.

Fuel Filter
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Fuel Filter

Ace has always just tried too hard to be some sort of “voice”.

Instead he outed himself as the douchebag he truly was.

I deleted his bookmark as soon as he went full Cruzer.

joe_mama
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That was a part of it as well. I was never a fan of his snarkiness and douchebag behavior. He was a genuinely funny guy though who had his moments, and the moron-horde was fantastic itself. Even Andrew Breitbart would peruse it back in the day.

But man, the shrill pettiness and nastiness that came out when he went nuts was too much. Also what’s the deal with him claiming he’s 29? Give me a break, he hasn’t seen 29 in over 15 years.

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Ace – I love the site and read every post. This is the internet folks – your skin is way too thin – I get insights – my brain is bigger for reading the stuff posted and the comments there. Join in the fray and quit your whining. Sheesh – hyper-sensitive people lose, always.

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Al from da Nort

Z Man; Bingo on the female adolescent tone of elite discourse of late. Middle School Mean Girls Rules(TM) now in effect: Vapid hormone-charges emotionalism and status competition entirely too much in evidence.

Hard to see where this came from other than Academic Feminism. I remember thinking in 1966, “What the hell do these over-privileged rich-bitches actually have to be so angry about_?” But the real question is not why they railed against ‘daddy’ but how was it that they succeeded_?

Notsothoreau
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I wonder if you’ve read Hillbilly Elegy yet. That’s the book that is supposed to explain the Dirt People to the Cloud People. The guy has an interesting story and he clearly wants to honor his roots. But he keeps having to stop and virtue signal along the way and it gets in the way of his story. I also wondered how his Yale buddies would have gotten on with his grandmother. (And for the record, I think Rick Bragg does a better job of describing the culture. He didn’t go to Yale or work for Peter Thiel). When you… Read more »

Samuel Adams
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Will have to read Bragg. Just finished Elegy. Thought it explained quite a lot about the Kentucky sides of both my parents families, including my g-grandmother, a widow raising four children who did, with an old cavalry pistol to make her point, threaten to kill a man she thought had ill intentions towards my grandmother. But you are right. I spent a good part of my childhood with these relations, my children have had almost zero exposure to the “other side of the tracks”. I don’t think they are better for it.

Notsothoreau
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Bragg has a deep affection for these folks. He has a book about the textile mill his brother worked at. You can tell how criminal it was to take jobs away from these folks.

There’s a story about a worker at the mill that was told to work on some lines. They wouldn’t shut down the mill and he was electrocuted by the live lines. His wife sued the company for compensation, since he was doing what they told him to do. She lost. They told her he should have known better and refused to do the job.

bangagong
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bangagong

Just bought Hillbilly Elegy on Amazon….sounds great…

meema
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So I finally just had to have my say. Shouting at the TV is not helping my blood pressure. I guess what I really want is for Trump to stand up and deliver the kind of speech that Bill Pullman’s president character delivered in the first Independence Day. You know, the kind of speech that tells it like it is.

Anyway – here’s the speech I wish Trump would deliver.
http://bagsallpacked.blogspot.com/2016/10/dear-mr-trump.html

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Good speech meema.

meema
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What frustrates me most is that as off the rails as Trump has been this entire time, no one in his steering committee has realized that the most winning speech Trump could give would be just him being real, acknowledging that we are real.

King George III
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King George III

“Shouting at the TV”

There’s your problem. Throw it away; you’ll never regret it.

(Seriously, take it down from the wall and to the garbage bin where it belongs. Tear down the altar to Hollywood.)

tamaleman
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tamaleman

That was a special kind of hipster virtue signalling a few years ago.

Seriously though, if you’ve never seen “How It’s Made” you’re missing out.

meema
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We do like How It’s Made. 🙂

CaptDMO
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CaptDMO

Oh, I used to watch “how it’s made”, but I dropped the “bundle” that had CSpan.
I STILL love sausage though.
The REAL “How it’s made” was freakin’ hypnotizing to me.

meema
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We’re almost there, actually. We are weaned down to the last fifteen minutes of The Five as we eat our evening meal, (this is where the shouting occurs mostly) then a couple hours of recorded shows before bed. Though we are running out of patience with the new normal of the ‘gay’ twist. We’ve come to the point of saying as a show begins- ‘wait for it – and there it is’. Could they be more transparent with their social engineering techniques?

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The local news (from Portland OR) has a black guy and two white women. I don’t begrudge the spot to the black guy as he’s been on the air a long time. I just see so much of this on tv these days. Is the goal to purge white men from society?

meema
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The simple answer is ‘yes’. They are indeed trying to remove white guys, in fact, all things masculine from society. A direct result of the feminization of the world. And the Whore rides the beast until it turns and devours her. It won’t end well, I have it on good authority.

Notsothoreau
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Notsothoreau

I can’t. My husband loves it. He likes to watch CBS news every morning. I have converted him from the dark side, so am making some progress. I just can’t see why anyone wants to watch that crap.

Nori
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Nori

USA Today reported that “Conservative Arizona Republic to endorse Hillary Clinton”. Got a good laugh out of that,AZ Republic began shedding their conservative writers at least 2 decades ago,when media giant Gannett bought them from the Pulliam family after the patriarch passed.The majority of good writers,from editorial page to sports,slipped away to greener pastures or retired.I’m sure they’re mightily pleased with themselves these days,being all diverse and pro-illegal immigrant,and pro-everything-gay-on-earth,and virulently anti-gun,or anything hinting of a gun,like an artfully chewed pop-tart.The Special Edition they published when Clusterfuck the 1st was elected was so full of airy nonsense it floated.Their website… Read more »

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Now Obama wants to categorize Middle Eastern people as a separate race. We all know why: so they can become a sacred group like blacks, gays and trans-whatevers. He is rubbing our faces in the slop of progressivism as he leaves office. He hates white America more than Farakhan. I agree a sea change has occurred. The Dirt People didn’t know they were dirt people and now they do and they now know they’ve been scammed by the left and the right for the last 60 years. It may be too late though. Even if Trump wins and even with… Read more »

Nori
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Nori

James-agree with every point you made.How to stop the tsunami? You can’t,we can’t,but we can never,ever,ever give up.There’s a reason POTUS hates Sir Winston Churchill,and it’s not “colonialism”.Churchill learned the true nature of Islam as a young man,and wrote of it.Truth is anathema to damn near everything on the left.Never,ever,ever give up.

meema
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Ever. I will die standing.

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The Dirt People and their allies in the Clouds (they exist) should simply take a leaf from the Alinsky playbook and call a general strike. That includes serving military, leos, all the Dirts who operate and do the heavy lifting in infrastructure (utilities, transport, etc.), hospitals and so on. They could shut down the media in under 24 hrs and for all practical purposes bring about a coup d’etat that is long overdue. Such a notion has always seemed extremely far-fetched to me, given the complacency in the US, but it now seems to me that the fetchin’ distance has… Read more »

Notsothoreau
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Notsothoreau

It starts in the schools. We start by taking back the curriculum and allowing choice. We demand college and the universities support different points of view. And we will need new ways to get our viewpoint out.

Zeroh Tollrants
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Zeroh Tollrants

Like meema, I’m in that small grouping of women who are not just the opposite of the avg emotionally driven, overly sensitive feminists, we are militant. I can’t speak for meema, or any other woman that falls in this category, but I am for drastic and revolutionary moves. If everyone in the elite academia were dragged out and lined up against the wall, the media, showbiz elites, along w/ James Comey and his ratfuck weasel gang, along w/ those IRS traiters, Lois Lerner, Koskinnen, etc., I’d gladly volunteer for the dispatch team.

meema
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At the urging of an email friend, I watched a video yesterday (I don’t recommend). It was largely a pro Trump message but couched in a nutcase ‘prophetic’ delivery. But it’s an ill wind that blows no good, as my daddy used to say, thus I did get something out of it. Sprinkled in among the craziness, were clips of Trump speeches in which he made sense, was articulate and presented a good case for real change. It dawned on me, since most of us never get to see a whole speech, how easy it has been for the complicit… Read more »

james wilson
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james wilson

It doesn’t start in the schools. That is where the Republic ended. It starts by ending the school systems, district by district.

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vive la resistance! Resist we must! If Hillary and the left win in November… well… then we buy a big sailboat and whiskey and live day to day.

meema
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How big is that boat?

thor47
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thor47

Big Sailboat and Whiskey, or Sailboat and Whiskey; song title if I ever heard one.
Then we buy a big sailboat and whiskey
And just live this life day to day
You heard Jimmy Buffett singing, didn’t you?

Nedd Ludd
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Nedd Ludd

Lyle Lovett – If I Had A Boat – YouTube
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=if+i+had+a+boat

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Boat drinks! You made me smile, thanks.

meema
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The lying and still winning thingy – says to me that we are officially in the Matrix.

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They win with lies because people are gullible and generally dull-witted. I blame many of the distractions for the dullness of the American mind. Spending too much time staring at small screens all day and night, including mindless TV, makes the zombie apocalypse a reality.

I think we are past the point of no return. It will take a lot of bloodshed to right America … I don’t know if there enough left to save at this point. Our numbers are shrinking and their are growing… we may be heading into a very long period of global misery and slavery..

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Huma: “Hillary, the peasants are revolting!”
Hillary: “They certainly are.”

Doug
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It is a grim picture considering the worst could go down. As voting was never meant to get us out of anything, it was for keeping us out of having to vote our way out of bad things to begin with. It will be a close thing wether or not a functioning culture of self determination and individualism survives and sustains a long term stay behind operation preserving the western Christian traditions and history of a free people born into liberty. The corporate slaves of the left and right charade, and their dark skinned helot counterparts, the American’s so inured… Read more »

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bangagong

Trump is a traitor to his class and that’s why us “dirt people ” support him.

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Z: In case you read these comments, I derived a reply from this piece directed to a DC, Insider Atty, David Post, in response to his WaPo article “An Open Letter to Volokh Conspiracy Readers Who are Trump Supporters.” The man is aghast that any sane person would support Trump as not one person he knows or any acquaintance support him. He lives in the DC Bubble. He asked Trump supporters to reply how they could possibly be so. I received 4 “WOW” responses & thought it might interest you: *** Hillary will most likely be our overlord weaponizing both… Read more »

CaptDMO
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CaptDMO

Shesh tex.
Think about the progression of this.
A WaPo article-
An Open Letter
to Volokh Conspiracy Readers
Who are Trump Supporters.
But I admire your Moxie for going there!
” 4 “WOW” responses”? Are those “good” at WaPo?
When I leave them in response to a post (or piece), it’s usually a preface for SOME polite transposition of “THAT was a gob smacking, mind numbing, Dunning-Kreuger, feigned ignorance, bit of stupidity!”

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Of course you may be right & I considered that. There are idiots everywhere & if you happened to read David Post’s article you’d see it first hand & in your parlance, the article itself would deserve several “Wows.”

Without contrary evidence I initially assume the best in people & assumed the “wows” were normal “wows” = good.

Regardless, if my readers were bright & knowledgeable enough the Wows = normal, good wows & if not it speaks to the Wowers, not me.

Since I’m no longer on a college campus I don’t think it takes much Moxie to go anywhere.

Paul Zummo
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Paul Zummo

” Next came the money making opportunities in talk radio and book selling.” You mean people like Shawn Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Matt Drudge, the Breitbary site in its entrirety, etc. – these are all cloud people? But they’re all Trump apologists, so how could this be? Or maybe your entire premise is so half-baked and convuluted and is really nothing more than an excuse to throw a temper tantrum against the “ruling class.” You know, the same ruling class people like Ace and the other “burn it down” folks have been railing against for over a decade for… Read more »

Diane D
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Diane D

Lost in all this is the Constitution. Either candidate will govern-by-lynch-mob. One will lynch our friends and one will lynch our enemies. But the lists are fluid…

We need a new nation with new borders. Will we ever fight for one?

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The worst thing to come out of this campaign is the betrayal of the Bush family. First President (Presidents?) I’ve had to be ashamed of voting for.

DiogenesLamp
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DiogenesLamp

The primary objection to Sarah Palin by the Party Elites was that she was low Class.

This should have been a clue to us that Ideology really wasn’t important to them.

lhfry
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lhfry

The left has worked for decades to undermine the personal qualities necessary to sustain a free republic: self-reliance, self-restraint, industry, and thrift and has largely succeeded. Hillary has said she intends to diminish our liberties and she has an organized cadre stashed at the Clinton Foundation to immediately begin work. In a recent WSJ editorial, Mark Helprin describes Trump as “….Rather like the crazy boy-emperors after the fall of the Roman Republic, …” an apt description. So what is one to do? One could argue that voting for the boy emperor will result in less long-term damage because it will… Read more »