A Report From The Field

One of the stranger things about this age is that even the fiercest critics of the ruling class are finding it hard to keep pace with the ruling class confirming their claims. Make some exaggerated statement about the Cloud People and before you have had a chance to defend it from critics, Cloud People have taken to social media to prove your point. It’s a cliché to say that satire is dead, but it really does feel that way. How can you satirize people who are everything you mock them for being, plus some extra to make the point?

A popular theme here is that the people who rule over us act like a foreign colonial elite, divorced from the reality of our daily life. They are not just physically removed, but spiritually and intellectually removed. As a result, they are entirely clueless about what animates our lives and decisions. This critique is meant to be an exaggeration to make a point about our elites. This editorial in the Wall Street Journal by Yale professor David Gelernter, however, is an example how it is hard to exaggerate these things.

The difference between citizens who hate Mr. Trump and those who can live with him—whether they love or merely tolerate him—comes down to their views of the typical American: the farmer, factory hand, auto mechanic, machinist, teamster, shop owner, clerk, software engineer, infantryman, truck driver, housewife. The leftist intellectuals I know say they dislike such people insofar as they tend to be conservative Republicans.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama know their real sins. They know how appalling such people are, with their stupid guns and loathsome churches. They have no money or permanent grievances to make them interesting and no Twitter followers to speak of. They skip Davos every year and watch Fox News. Not even the very best has the dazzling brilliance of a Chuck Schumer, not to mention a Michelle Obama. In truth they are dumb as sheep.

Mr. Trump reminds us who the average American really is. Not the average male American, or the average white American. We know for sure that, come 2020, intellectuals will be dumbfounded at the number of women and blacks who will vote for Mr. Trump. He might be realigning the political map: plain average Americans of every type vs. fancy ones.

Now, Gelernter is one of the few good neocons in that he is much more in line with the original generation than with the successors. I had a short correspondence with him a long time ago and he was very nice. No, I am not the Unabomber. He had written an article about alternative file structures that I found interesting so I sent him an e-mail about it and we went back and forth on the topic. Unlike his neocon brethren, he does not sneer at the rest of us or endlessly advocate for our destruction.

The amusing part about this column is that it needed to be written. Gelernter is a Yale professor, which means he spends his days around Cloud People and future Cloud People. As a Trump supporter, he operates a lot like Dian Fossey, spending every day in an alien environment observing strange creatures. He no doubt has come to care for them and appreciate them, but their weirdness remains the main fascination. Yet, this is a place that is a training ground for the people who will one day call themselves our leaders.

Now, spend enough time in a foreign place and you will start to take on the attributes of the natives. You see that in the description of the “typical American” as something closer to a character from Dickens than modern reality. Whenever ruling class people talk about the rest of us they never mention business owners, the self-employed or senior managers in mid-sized companies. I deal with the latter on a regular basis and I rarely encounter a hard core lefty. They range from right-of-center to way over on our side of the divide.

That’s the strangeness of the current age. It’s not that the ruling class is physically removed from the rest of us, as in the feudal age or even at the peak of the industrial age. In those times, the people in the castles and mansions generally believed the same things as the regular people, at least spiritually. They also felt a duty to maintain order, not just in their own interests but in the interests of the populace. They may not have liked the peasants, but they did not hate them. They certainly felt a duty to look out for them.

In this age, the ruling class believes things that no normal person accepts. The tranny stuff is the obvious example. That will never be accepted by normal people as anything other than an insult to their decency. The Cloud People can bellow about this until they are swinging from a rope and the people will never accept it. Yet, among the Cloud People, gender fluidity is as sensible as worshiping Gaia. Our ruling class now has an entirely alien religion upon which is built their moral framework and world view. They ain’t us.

That’s another thing about this age. The Cloud People lack self-awareness. It’s why comedy is no longer funny. A sense of humor relies on a sense of self and a willingness to make sport of your side. That can only work on people when they are aware of their own foibles and quirks. For our rulers, their greatest blind spot is in the mirror. They imagine themselves as plucky underdogs fighting the man. They think they are nobly sacrificing for the greater good. In reality, they are selfish self-absorbed children throwing tantrums.

That’s why it is hard to be optimistic about a good end to a course correction. How do you reform a ruling class whose identity is based on its hatred of the people over whom it rules? How do you fix a people who are oblivious to the lives of the people they rule and oblivious to the reality of their own lives? It is easy to understand why the Maoists sent so many intellectuals to the rice paddies or gave them factory jobs pushing a broom. It’s hard to comprehend how anyone can be so clueless and self-absorbed, but here we are.

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ExPraliteMonk
ExPraliteMonk
2 years ago

David Galernter is an underrated genius. From his book “Machine Beauty”:

Had an omnipotent creator set out to equip man with a truth-seeking physiology, He could hardly have done better than to provide us with this peculiar beauty sense of ours.

ErisGuy
ErisGuy
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The man’s name is “Gelernter”

https://cpsc.yale.edu/people/david-gelernter

PV van der Byl
PV van der Byl
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Gelernter means “learned” in German. Very appropriate!

J. S. Bridges
J. S. Bridges
Reply to  ErisGuy
1 year ago

in point of fact, his name IS “Gelernter” – it states so quite-clearly at the very start of the cpsc.yale.edu page you posted the link for – I can’t imagine just why or how anyone would imagine differently…

Tax Slave
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

I too corresponded with Gelernter back around 2003 and his replies to me were thoughtful and considerate. Imagine, a Yale professor writing back to a lowly manager in a far away place.

Teapartydoc
Member
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
2 years ago

Sounds like Burke in his treatise on the sublime and beautiful.

joey junger
joey junger
Reply to  ExPraliteMonk
2 years ago

His name in German could be literally translated as “The Learned One.”

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
2 years ago

They could not exist without our support, Z. It is a truism: people get the gov’ts they want and deserve. Coming from a upper middle class proggie family I can tell you that there are plenty of Dirts that believe this “tranny crap” too. Most trannies are Dirt People. They will tell you that Donald Trump eats puppies and hangs upside down in a cave during the day, and that Hillary Clinton was crucified by an ignorant and uneducable rabble. My own mother thinks that I am a fascist without a swastika, no doubt gulled by poison-minded hate thinkers like… Read more »

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

The Dirt People that believe all this stuff are those who are appalled at being Dirts. They aspire to Cloudhood and take up all the airs of Cloudness. They look in the mirror and don’t like what they see. They live in luxury that 99% of all people everywhere have never known, and bitch about things. They believe that their own material abundance is simply a given, but that others need to conform to their twisted set of mores, “for their own good”.

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  Dutch
2 years ago

Yeah, Dutch, these Dirts do indeed aspire to be Clouds.
That’s why some of us call them Bugmen, i.e. soul-devoid pseudo-Individuals.

Teapartydoc
Member
2 years ago

I think the ways that our overlords will be ultimately dealt with will be in the breaking up of their companies and in whittling down the huge educational establishments. Not sure exactly what form this will take, but it seems like something will happen over the next twenty years or so.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Teapartydoc
2 years ago

Doc;
Think Henry VIII vs the monasteries. Start some semi-dubious Rico-like legal proceedings, seize all Big U endowments, require taxable 100% distribution of all foundations with no living descendant of the founder, use the proceeds to liquidate the national debt, voila.

ConantheContrarian
Member
Reply to  Al from da Nort
2 years ago

Join the discussion…I don’t know how much of the national debt is owned by the Fed, but whatever is can be eliminated by just not paying it. The debt was created out of thin air, and it can be paid back by thin air.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  ConantheContrarian
2 years ago

The country made a major mistake by not holding on to the TARP stakes in the banks. Hundreds of billions of dollars in dividends and stock appreciation would have accrued to the Treasury. It would have been a fitting punishment for wrecking the economy, but the Right was led astray by free market fundamentalism.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  DeBeers Diamonds
2 years ago

The rise of “woke capital” post-Occupy movement would have been headed off by a GOP Congress that would be grilling bank executives about Affirmative Action and corp sponsored gay pride. Instead we have bank executives plotting to defund the firearms industry. By contrast, Fannie and Freddie weren’t sold off, earning the Treasury $100 billion, which still pales in comparison to the trillions in QE.

Wilson McWilliams
Wilson McWilliams
Reply to  DeBeers Diamonds
2 years ago

>>>The country made a major mistake by not holding on to the TARP stakes in the banks.

Ahhh… but you are forgetting that it’s the LOSSES that must be socialized, not the gains

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Al from da Nort
2 years ago

I like the Saudi method better. You round them up, lodge them in the best hotels, wine them and dine them and then you put a gun to their head: “PIN-code, please.”

Hoagie
Hoagie
2 years ago

“How do you reform a ruling class whose identity is based on its hatred of the people over whom it rules?” I favor the classic revolutionary French method. I mean who would not agree with the head of Bezos, De Blasio or Hillary being held up to: “Behold the head of a traitor”? OTOH, the contemporary method of the Maoists seems okay although not as personally fulfilling. Stripping the Clintons, Fiensteins and Pelosi’s of their ill-gotten wealth and possessions and putting them to work beside their “noble” immigrants in the lettuce fields and Napa vineyards would also be rewarding. Either… Read more »

Member
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

Just voting them out of office, taking away their security clearances and other perks, making them equal under the law, i.e, prosecuting them for their myriad crimes will work. No need to go frenchy on them.

ConantheContrarian
Member
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

If we have stripped our elites and alien elites of their power and wealth, then we will also have solved the noble immigrant problem as well: they will have been sent home to their native lands. Our elites will be picking lettuce along with antifa activists.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

WWG1WGA on Twitter notes that Trump has invested $500 million into Gitmo and it now has capacity for 16k people. Also that rules for applying military tribunals to certain kinds of cases were rejiggered at the first of this year. Also 55k sealed indictments outstanding. Hmm…

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

The French Revolution was among history’s stupidest revolutions. I don’t look to it as anything but a cautionary tale.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Most events in history are cautionary tales, Vizzini. That doesn’t mean we can pick and choose the good parts for our own purposes. I’m not suggesting sending 20,000 people to meet Madam Guillotine. I think a few hundred of the top traitors can serve as a good enough example.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

I’m sure the early leaders of the revolution thought so, too.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
2 years ago

Off topic (somewhat): I am staying at a Hampton Inn in Louisville. When I tried to bring up Unz.com on the internet, I got this message:

The requested site could not be loaded. 451 The kiosk owner has requested Uniguest block certain web sites due to questionable content.

Apparently SiteKiosk, whatever that thought suppression device may be, has not yet heard of the Z blog. You will have to work harder to join the honorable ranks of SiteKiosk’s “questionable” badthinkers.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Gravity Denier
2 years ago

Interesting. I bet Pornhub still works just fine.

Tax Slave
Reply to  Drake
2 years ago

You mean HuffPo. Same thing.

Jim
Jim
Reply to  Gravity Denier
2 years ago

Happens with Voxday too in certain areas….including my office and the local university hospitals.

Cloudswrest
Cloudswrest
Reply to  Gravity Denier
2 years ago

Seven years ago, on a Disney cruise, I was blocked from visiting Amren.

Member
2 years ago

This is why the NPC meme helps me understand the other side. Not the anointed but their stupid minions that me too everything and cry at Hillary speeches. These followers are without introspection, original thought or even empathy for others.

I get now that the ruling class hates us, they want more for themselves along with security at any expense. Their npc followers are just that. If they could think, the realization would kick in that they are in the same boat as us.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  David_Wright
2 years ago

That’s correct that they’re lacking introspection, original thought and empathy. We know their positions on every issue. They have very little understanding of our opinions beyond “BIGOTS!, RACISTS! FASCISTS!”

Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

I don’t know why I didn’t reference Charles Murray’s Coming Apart book.
Quite relevant and goes in depth on the separation of the upper and lower classes. Elites really don’t know anyone else and thus have little understanding. Nor do they want to.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

On a primal level, they know that if we ever obtained and consolidated power, that their lifestyles would be curbed or they would face exile. The Shah’s Iran was a liberal country, now all the liberals are in Los Angeles.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
2 years ago

Last night was a big step forward in the fight for us Regular Folks in the battle against the Cloud People when Trump thundered on stage that he’s a Nationalist and urged everyone to use that “old-fashioned word.” The gasping and sputtering and pointing and shrieking from the likes of Kristol, Boot, Hillary, Romney, the NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc is going to be fun to watch.

Tax Slave
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

He did? Truly? Now that’s heartening news.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

I leaped out of my chair when he said that. I couldn’t believe. The cat is now officially out of the bag.

Outis
Outis
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

I am an ethnic nationalist.

Born in the USA ethnic American.

Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
2 years ago

Even better than the outrage over It’s OK to Be White, Trump’s coming out as a Nationalist and the subsequent outrage is the top red pill moment for whites to see the depth of the anti white hate among the left.

Flair 1239
Member
2 years ago

One thing that jumped out at me during the Kavanaugh deal was how Inbred the DC ruling class is.

I was watching Fox and Brit Hume casually mentioned that he had known Ford’s father and Kavanaugh’s father.

Even outsiders are groomed at a young age. Look at young Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, supposed outsiders… even they did not just pop out randomly.

It is really quite unnerving when you get into it.

Rich Whiteman
Rich Whiteman
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

Dynasty everywhere you look. Somebody out there is picking the winners and bringing them up…

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Rich Whiteman
2 years ago

If you own all the horses in the race, you don’t have to worry about who wins.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

They own the horses, the stable, the racetrack, and all the concessions.

Nori
Nori
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

Twitter’s Rising Serpent refers to the DC swamp creatures as “the Circle of Filth”. That circle seems to encompass far more, including academia, the media, and Hollywood.
Connecting the dots is easy, and unnerving. It’s one gigantic incestuous relationship.

Wilson McWilliams
Wilson McWilliams
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

>>>Even outsiders are groomed at a young age.

That’s the entire (current) purpose of the Ivy League finishing schools. Recruit talented youngsters from Flyover Country, and groom them to think like native Yankee assholes. These are well represented among the National Review set.

Drake
Drake
2 years ago

I see things moving past simple hatred of the Dirt people. Now that they are threatened, the Clouds and their media attack dogs have moved onto dehumanizing us. Once the enemy can be viewed as evil and not human, they can be beaten, robbed, and killed with impunity.

We’ve already seen a mass assassination attempt, a U.S. Senator beaten almost to death, and numerous lunatics “confronting” Republican politicians. Assassinations are coming.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Drake
2 years ago

Thinking about debating the issues with them using logic and reason and evidence seems like a long time ago.

Rod1963
Rod1963
Reply to  Drake
2 years ago

I agree, it’s moved on beyond just hating us dirt people and now they openly want us dead and gone.

It will only get worse from here on out, especially if the GOP hold the House of Reps. That will drive the Progtards insane.

Guest
Guest
2 years ago

FWIW, new poll shows Republican Scott ahead in FL by 1 point. No new polling in Indiana, but I read an article yesterday indicating that Braun has internal polling showing him ahead of Donnelly. AZ, ND, and NV are going R. Now it looks like FL and IN may go R. MT is still 50/50. Republicans may have 55-56 in the Senate. This means that the party can primary Murkowski and Collins from the right. I looked at the 2020 Senate races last night. If they can hold CO and AZ then Republicans will likely gain 2-3 seats in 2020… Read more »

George Orwell
George Orwell
Reply to  Guest
2 years ago

Greater Los Angeles omitted because it’s properly part of Mexico today.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
2 years ago

I think you and that Yalie hit the ‘ruling class’ right in the gut there. This rings true.

Epaminondas
Member
2 years ago

They would gas all of us if they could.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Epaminondas
2 years ago

I think their real desire would be to reestablish a feudal order and put us back on the manors as serfs.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Drake
2 years ago

Feudalism expected some reciprocity of duties, a share of the crops in return for protection inside the nobleman’s castle. Neo-feudal Uber and other parts of the “gig economy” seem to exist purely to dodge payroll taxes and labor laws.

Saml Adams
Saml Adams
2 years ago

Got another reminder of that separation last night down here in AZ. Hosted a table at a dinner with a bunch of our business partners–we’re the NY guys, they were mostly Midwestern and Southern. But we did that little ritual where they have to figure out if the NY guy is Cloud or Dirt. So we did. And they figured out I was Dirt. Then it was game on. Most of these are guys running mid-size businesses and man are they hacked off–and every damn one is voting.

Flair 1239
Member
Reply to  Saml Adams
2 years ago

That is funny. I live in Minnesota, just outside Minneapolis. When I go to rural areas, the locals play that game with me to see if I am one of them or a city guy.

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

Extreme prolonged affluence has evolved a class of people who are divorced from reality because realism is no longer a survival necessity for them. They are damaged members of the species and a healthy evolutionary environment would purge them before they reproduce. Nature used to perform this function when the environment was ruled by hardship and existential competition. In our modern era, these drivers have become extinct and the societal cancer is spreading fast. We cannot talk our way out of this mess, but we can restore the original drivers.

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Nature has shown a persistent and unsentimental tendency to ‘restore the drivers’ quite independently to human wishes, and will do so again.

A mighty solar flare could knock out power systems for months or even years; a pandemic could wipe out hundreds of millions; the exhaustion of oil could drive all-out war among developed societies; the global financial system could be wiped out by some destabilizing earthquake or political coup in mere moments; some random misunderstanding or computer hacking could unleash nuclear combat.

So cheer up. The correction is coming,

Ris Eruwaedhiel
Ris Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  pimpkin\'s nephew
2 years ago

Brings to mind what Anonymous Conservatives talks about – K vs. R with a K wave on the way.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  pimpkin\'s nephew
2 years ago

I agree that (on a long enough time line) nature will self correct. But we live in the present and have to contend with current events. This may include a descent into tyranny resulting from an explosion of human parasitic behaviors. Evolution built us to fight back against such hardship and we would be dishonoring our species if we failed to act.

Wilson McWilliams
Wilson McWilliams
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

>>>Evolution built us to fight back…

Even 70 year-old bookish men can be pushed into subversive, violent acts. And rightly so.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Wilson McWilliams
2 years ago

An octanagarian with nothing to lose and driving a big SUV is a formidable civil combatant.

Maus
Maus
2 years ago

In your commentary on Gelernter’s article, you hit on a key source of friction and frustration for we Dissident Right thinkers, particulary those who must work in the knowledge economy. We have to work close-at-hand with these crazed Cloud People. Unlike many of the occupations cited by Gelernter, which enjoy a physical separation from the crazy, those in professions predominated by Cloud People or their striving disciples have to endure daily contact with it. And it must be endured in silence, lest our “heresy” be discovered and punished. The Cloud People really do assume that anyone smart enough to work… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Maus
2 years ago

“…a key source of friction and frustration for we Dissident Right thinkers, particulary those who must work in the knowledge economy. We have to work close-at-hand with these crazed Cloud People.”

YES!!! Being in a university sometimes feels like living a double life. You learn after a while that no arguments, statistcs, logic, reason etc, will change ppl’s belief systems. And that politics gets in the way of everything. It is enormously frustrating.

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
2 years ago

Hang in there, Simba, you’ll get used to it.
Chalk it up as practice, in presenting yourself as apolitical – this will serve you well in coming years.

It’s not just in the knowledge economy, but, most everywhere in “blue” parts of the country.
See the below exchange between Dansidea, Dutch, and me.
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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
2 years ago

Don’t give up on the Universities. Spent 31+ years there. There are plenty of dirt people in faculty positions—especially in the hard sciences. Enough so that they can keep the place operational once sanity is restored. The country doesn’t need 40% of its population with college degrees—most of them worthless. Of course as we know, today’s University system is a scam selling pieces of paper for big bucks. You could reduce the college population easily in half (or more so) and still produce the highly skilled folk needed to keep the country in first world status.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
2 years ago

I’m an academic physician (ISTR you are as well) in the Northeast. While I don’t make a point of rubbing people’s noses in my politics, I’ve stopped bothering to hide them either. Somewhat to my surprise, it has hardly made any difference in my standing personally or professionally. Personally, those colleagues who disliked me may dislike me more, but those who were friends remain friends (including self-described progressives, not to mention the Muslim Hillary supporter). Professionally, I haven’t notably been cut out of much if anything, research collaboration-wise. Again, somewhat to my surprise. (There is the theory of “They’d like… Read more »

Cloudswrest
Cloudswrest
Reply to  Maus
2 years ago

And don’t you dare go to an Amren, Vdare, or H.L.Menken conference and hobnob with like minded people, lest you be exposed and doxxed.

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Cloudswrest
2 years ago

These were exactly the kind of real concerns that kept German businessmen, judges, firefighters, school-teachers, civil servants and the military class awake at night in the early to mid-30s. There were families to support, pensions at stake, honors not yet realized. The average Party member of 1939 wasn’t interested in killing Jews or conquering Russia, but in preserving their pensions or the cost of sending their kids to school, and in mimicking those ‘necessary attitudes’ required to avoid being “hurled into the void’, as Z-man puts it. If we really mean what we say here and elsewhere in the ever-diminishing… Read more »

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Maus
2 years ago

Well, you could walk away from it. There is dignified work out there that pays well.

MGTOWism can be economic, too.

dad29
2 years ago

its hatred of the people

I don’t know about “hate,” but there’s no question about “utter disdain.” The Cloud People are, IMHO, incapable of either “hate” or “love,” aside from self-love.

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  dad29
2 years ago

dad, it may not be self-love, but rather, desperate efforts to boost self-ESTEEM.
From the Codevilla article, which Dutch recommended yesterday:
“But the Progressives deplore the “deplorables” not to improve them, but to feel good about *themselves*.”

Deep-down inside, there’s no there there, so, in order to gin-up some feeling of having a place in the world, they flock to the security of toeing the Party Line, while feeling like they’re more “individualistic” than these crass Deplorables.

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  jaqship
2 years ago

Many of these Bugmen became that, due partly to the Self-Esteem school of psychology, this led largely by (once President of the American Psychological Association) Carl Rogers, who clearly had tries to the CIA.
Leave it to the Deep State, to ruin damn-near everything it touches.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  jaqship
2 years ago

I thought Carl Rogers was, as psychologists go, one of the good ones. Why do you say he was a CIA associate?

Ris Eruwaedhiel
Ris Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  jaqship
2 years ago

Conservatives have expounded on “liberal guilt” for I don’t know how long. I don’t believe “liberal guilt” exists, but do believe there is plenty of liberal and cuckservative moral grandstanding, or, to use the current term, “virtue-signaling.” These moral hams don’t feel guilty about anything; quite the contrary, they are very proud of themselves because they say the right things and hold the right views. A kind of perverted secularized Protestantism. Faith over works.

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  dad29
2 years ago

Excellent and incisive point. They don’t hate us as much as we hate them. We are subjected to their images and decrees every day, so we know who they are – thus our hatred. To them we are at best house-flies. No one hates house-flies; they’re just annoying.

Guest
Guest
2 years ago

As if on cue, this article showed up in one of my newsfeeds today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2018/10/16/they-were-gay-interracial-couple-an-age-relentless-bigotry-two-harolds-didnt-flinch/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.dc9741d1e435

It’s worth scrolling through the comments and the author’s Twitter feed. It’s shocking to see how myopic the worldview of someone who exists in the liberal bubble is.

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
Reply to  Guest
2 years ago

The system of Political Correctness exists in order to grease the wheels of the multikult liberal system. A few Russian bots were all it took to undermine ouh demokracy you know.

Just think of what would happen if the system could be subverted for even a week. Civil unrest, insurrection, even civil war are not out of the realm of possibility if the thought control system can’t be restored. Trump is just a common cold.

Dansidea
Member
2 years ago

Thanks Z – as one of those “senior middle managers” myself and many of my peers have grown tired of Conservative support being described as exclusively blue collar. Living in Massachusetts we are overwhelmed at the ballot box by academics and government parasites and elites , when the money runs out this state will go red fast.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Dansidea
2 years ago

Here in California, people carefully test the waters in private conversations, taking rather neutral positions on matters of the day. The tell is that the conversation does not immediately go into a rant about Trump or Kavanaugh or whatever. We both smile and move on, the coded conversation is in place, we know who the good guys are.

Dansidea
Member
Reply to  Dutch
2 years ago

Exactly Dutch ! It’s always very reassuring to find a fellow traveler when we have to be carefully reticent in our states or in the high tech workplace.

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  Dansidea
2 years ago

Yeah, first present yourself as *really* open-minded, and as extending (and implicitly demanding) politeness.
Let the Lefties get the rep for Crowding people.

Member
2 years ago

A sense of humor relies on a sense of self and a willingness to make sport of your side. It’s funny you mention this because I think this is one of the most glaring deficiencies in how the Cloud people assess Trump. Both the left and the jelly-faced d**ks***ers of Conservative, Inc. love to claim that Trump is some kind of uptight, thin-skinned child who stays up all night fuming at some personal slight. In fact, he’s probably the most upbeat easy-going willing-to-take-a joke President ever. I can’t remember the commenter, but I distinctly remember someone making the point that… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  RDittmar
2 years ago

Reagan seemed to have a genuine sense of humor and could yuk it up with friends and foe alike. Definitely not a NPC. Getting shot in the heart did take a lot of vitality out of him.

Flair 1239
Member
Reply to  RDittmar
2 years ago

What is funny is that most normal people know a guy who talks like Trump. So they get it. He may embellish a story to make it funnier or bluster a bit. It is not a big deal.

I mean shit, Trump cracks an obvious joke at a campaign rally on 2016 about the Russians having HRCs emails… next thing you know they are launching an investigation.

I used to think they were intentionally dense, but maybe they just don’t know better?

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

Oh, Flair, the leaders know better (*when* they bother to think about it at all), but the flock just make sure they “fit in”.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

They are the big sister that cannot deal with the little brother. “Mommmmm!!!”. Infantile is not just a word, it is a way of life.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Flair 1239
2 years ago

Flair, the movers and shakers know better, i.e., that Trump was making a joke. They simply are disingenuous and will use any excuse to paint Trump in a bad light. Now, I’ll admit that there is a cadre of dup’s who upon hearing such disparities believe the party line wrt interpretation, but we have the same sort of people within our ranks as well.

Christopher Chantrill
Christopher Chantrill
2 years ago

I’d say that a ruling class that hates its people is probably heading for the exit. But what do I know?

Ris Eruwaedhiel
Ris Eruwaedhiel
Reply to  Christopher Chantrill
2 years ago

We can only hope.

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago

It’s almost as though they keep pushing the envelope until they find something that will offend the dirt people. If trannies in bathrooms didn’t do it, they would find some new level of depravity, that their point is to find some point of contention and splitting. That they are fighting us is the point, not any reasoned moral system. I was at Harvard in the art museum recently and it was a freak show. One would have thought it was some prearranged circus. Multiple pairs of strange looking guys holding hands and pdaing. In the guys bathroom this little tranny… Read more »

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago

A massive column of invaders marching on the southern border seems to have stirred up some hornets.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago

Celebrating homosexual men having sex with male teens is next after trannies. How dare you disapprove of some 15 year old boy having sex with Elton John, for example? What kind of monster would disapprove of this love? I can already hear the women I know repeating this.

It will be horrible to witness and it is just a few years away.

Ursula
Ursula
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I read one pro-pedo person talking about “ageism” and how wrong it is to tell someone’s heart that it can’t love someone younger than the mean old fuddy-duddy law allows. It’s unbelievable. I think these guys should meet the same end as that lying husband and father (and closet homosexual) on Brokeback Mountain.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

This is about destroying the family, so my money is on the table the Clouds will legalize polygamy. Something very odd is happening here in southern Utah. In the last two years, tens of thousands of Warren Jeffs Colorado City people have left the Arizona strip and flooded the communities north from St. George north past Cedar City along the Hurricane Fault.. They are everywhere the women with the big hair and monocolor long dresses. Tons of cash money being thrown about, lots of new Honda minivans and Ford F150s. The housing market is tight what with retirees from Vegas… Read more »

Guest
Guest
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago
chedolf
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago

It would be useful for everyone on the Right to understand how holiness spirals work. They are zero-sum competitions for status. You acquire status by demonstrating you’re more woke than your competitors. As leftists approach victory on an issue, their position starts to become the default view. That means it no longer distinguishes them from the herd. As this happens, the SJW vanguard moves on to the next, more controversial issue to demonstrate their moral superiority. (E.g, the far left began to ramp up normalizing transgenders even before the courts had formalized gay marriage. As LGBT gained acceptance, leftists started… Read more »

jaqship
jaqship
Reply to  chedolf
2 years ago

Yeah, chedolf, status, and self-ESTEEM.
Above, I quoted from the Codevilla article, which Dutch recommended yesterday:
“But the Progressives deplore the “deplorables” not to improve them, but to feel good about *themselves*.

The Left has more of this stuff than does the Right, but parts of the Right also have some holiness spirals.

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
Reply to  chedolf
2 years ago

Right that’s a good word, holiness spiral, but my point is their goal is to find the point where the right, or the normals, say ow! They aim to create outrage in the opposition, not any specific societal objectives.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
2 years ago

My wife and I have been on a road trip mainly to visit art museums. The Carnegie in Pittsburgh is not only mediocre but tiresomely hipsterish both on the museum management side (transgressive exhibits and captions) and visitors.

The Cleveland Museum of Art has a far better collection — truly world class — and still has retained a sane attitude toward the great works of civilization on display. It’s housed in a wonderful building, too.

Frank
Frank
2 years ago

I still see the whole gender thing as a 1984 type mind game. Basically if the left can actually convince the population to accept that women have penises, they can get them to accept anything. This is one of the most fundamental facts of life, and they have poured all of this effort into it. If they pull this off, which they basically have, when they tell you to believe anything less subtle than that, what choice to people have now that they have surrendered their most obvious common sense. The parade coming up from the south is just a… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Frank
2 years ago

Frank, I couldn’t agree more. There are a lot of use “dirts” that can go toe to toe with most of these “clouds”. The separation is not simply money or fame. Write us all off as deplorables at your own risk.

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
2 years ago

It’s a year and a half old, from a well-known National Review writer, but still:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXJi9-1SUs

It cheers me up.

Member
Reply to  pimpkin\'s nephew
2 years ago

Yes, VDH is one erudite dude.

Ray
Ray
2 years ago

Europe made one basic and unforgivable mistake after the fall of the communist. They let them live. You can see the result of that in Germany, England, and everywhere else that refused to clean house after the cold war. America is about to be granted a rare and priceless moment. One where we can cleanse our nation. If we steel our hearts and take that moment to exterminate ALL of the “swamp”. From the top down. We could see a century or more of true liberty for our posterity. If we don’t, and truly, we probably won’t. We will have… Read more »

Brock Barker
Brock Barker
2 years ago

I say we handle the problem of our rulers like the French handled the same problem during the French Revolution.

Member
2 years ago

The old WASP elite was not as antagonistic to the masses as the new crop of elite. The WASPs may have looked down on the commoners but they came from the same culture. Our new elite is heavily Jewish and the non-Jews among the elite’s ranks are heavily influenced by the narratives in Jewish press and entertainment. Jews see the white commoners as inferior and a threat to the welfare of Jews. They are very open about this. When the WASP elite was fazed out from leadership of the elite, that was the time when this big shift took place… Read more »