A Show Of Don’ts

This week I decided to do some housekeeping. I started looking at the lists I keep for posting and podcasting with an eye on doing some year-end cleanup. This time of year I like to take some time to reorganize and reset. I noticed on my podcast list that I had some stray items and leftovers that I was probably never going to use, so some housekeeping was in order. That’s when it occurred to me that maybe I could bundle all of them into a single show. That way I would not discard them entirely.

The result this week is a show about things you should avoid doing. These are all ideas I thought about using for different topics, but they never quite fit. The first segment, for example, was something I thought about in the show on fascism, but it was left on the cutting room floor, as the professionals say. The last segment is something I thought of using in a show about popular culture, but I decided I did not care enough about popular culture to do a whole podcast on it. This show is a hunter’s stew, of sorts.

Tonight at 8:00 PM EST I am scheduled to be the Josh Neal live stream. I don’t know a whole lot about him, but he seems to be interviewing people involved in dissident politics, so I figured it would be fine. His list of topics to discuss is free will, the near future of dissident politics and my thoughts about Donald Trump. The show will run about 90 minutes and you can watch it at anytime. Given that this livestream will happen during my designated drinking time, it should be an entertaining episode.

This week I have the usual variety of items in the now standard format. Spreaker has the full show. I am up on Google Play now, so the Android commies can take me along when out disrespecting the country. I am on iTunes, which means the Apple Nazis can listen to me on their Hitler phones. The anarchists can catch me on iHeart Radio. YouTube also has the full podcast. Of course, there is a download link below. I have been de-platformed by Spotify, because they feared I was poisoning the minds of their Millennial customers.

This Week’s Show

Contents

  • 00:00: Opening
  • 07:00: Don’t Worry About Principles
  • 17:00: Don’t Chase The Stick
  • 27:00: Don’t Worry About Details
  • 37:00: Don’t Play The Role
  • 47:00: Don’t Black Pill Yourself
  • 57:00: Closing

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guest
guest
5 years ago

The left is waging a holy war while we babble about sportsmanship.

wjkathman
wjkathman
5 years ago

Only a little more than twenty minutes into this episode and there have already been several gems (loved the bit about DR3 being a way for Boomer Cons to throw their own stick though it clearly doesn’t work). Every once and a while somebody should stop to acknowledge how great Z is at what he does. As much as I’d prefer not to sound like a kiss-ass, I can’t help it. This guy deserves a lot of admiration.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  wjkathman
5 years ago

It is never improper to give credit where credit is due. I have an idea of how hard it is to put thoughts together and the work involved in presentation. It is a time consuming endeavor which as near as I can tell accrues no renumeration to Z-man. An “atta boy” every so often should come from all of us.

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Compsci
5 years ago

Compsci, I agree, but if Mr. Z hasn’t got a plan to monetize this I’d be both surprised and disappointed.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
5 years ago

One of the problems of cleaning out the attic is ya find old chit that is so cool, ya wonder how it ended up in the attic in the first place. Then you start thinking about that and all the other junk up there, that no cleaning gets done. I liked the point about chasing the stick, it will have great application in public debates and sparring matches. I also have a personal take on that. Let’s be honest: Your aunt that drinks wine by the box does that because she’s an idiot, and her politics are what they are… Read more »

bilejones
Member
Reply to  Glenfilthie
5 years ago

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/chit
“a child or young person, especially a pert girl. ”

In my many attic cleansings I have yet to find such a chit, and I keep my eyes peeled for pert girls.

C’est la vie.

Babe Ruthless
Babe Ruthless
5 years ago

The chase-the-stick thing is a great metaphor, and image. I’m not a media expert, but one thing that also bugs me when watching “conservatives” getting interviewed, is that they pretend to respect the interviewers’ questions, which are usually nothing more than barely-disguised invective and smear attacks. They should never even pretend to respect the interviewers or their questions. Respect grants the interviewers grossly undeserved moral legitimacy. Like Trump, they should attack their interviewers every single time, and call them out on their obvious leftism and dishonesty. When dealing with the totalitarian smear-bots of the left-wing media, as a principle this… Read more »

Drake
Drake
5 years ago

I NEVER try to argue facts and reason with lefty relatives. I simply mock their stupid ideas and express complete indifference to their current “principles” – like your quip to the gay guy. Nothing makes them madder than not caring and not accepting their crap. Exactly how is diversity our strength?

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Drake
5 years ago

In 1985 I got drunk with an old friend who had “come out” as a homo a couple years earlier. He kept asking me, or pestering me, really, to declare my total commitment to the homo cause. I was continually trying to change the subject. Eventually I had to declare my position – that homosexuality is an aberration. I went into details, describing in plain Anglo-Saxon the sort of things that homos got up to, and declaring my total rejection of such activity as crimes against nature. We haven’t been in touch since. But it wasn’t my fault. I was… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivener
Bartleby the Scrivener
5 years ago

I want to give Z a tip of the ole chapeau. My 29 year old daughter and I were spending some time today Christmas shopping. We have been discussing subjects regularly discussed on this site, and while driving, I put on today’s show. She listened intently, and when we got to our destination, she said, with regards to abandoning principles, that she never thought of the subject the way that you disseminated it. (BTW, she is the lone Christian Conservative at her current employer. We get a kick out of talking about how she seamlessly navigates the land mines at… Read more »

Vegetius
Vegetius
5 years ago

Avoiding rage bait is good. Inflicting it on the Enemy is better.

If it can be done safely, legally and anonymously, 100 pieces of paper and a little ink carefully deployed under windshield wipers can accomplish more than a year’s worth of fighting in comment sections.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

Agree w most. But, about principles, I have to admit when heard Z say (or write, I forget) this it took me by surprise too. I see where he’s coming from but, maybe as a matter of semantics, I would rather say ‘dont have any dogmas’ than ‘principles’. If you have no principles at all, how do you know what you stand for?? But they should not be absolute, unyielding, ‘eternal’ truths and especially so when they get in the way of winning. The stuff about the left being devoid of morals, ethics etc is all true. I kinda suspect… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

I have it on good authority that brontosaurs were like, totally down with trans rights. No to cis-reptilian trad-cloacal oppressors!

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 years ago

Applying PUA/manosphere tactics to the left is effective because the progressive has a feminine mind.

Hendrick
Hendrick
5 years ago

“Shiv of conservative principles”
Excellent. A brilliant encapsulation of the most serious problem.

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
5 years ago

Maybe not “principles”, but what about “objectives”? Most people need some organizing and clarifying constructs.

pimpkin\'s nephew
pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Primi Pilus
5 years ago

“Organizing and clarifying constructs” arise naturally in a people facing extinction. The objective is victory over the aggressors. They declared war on us and their sole objective is our annihilation. Z man’s use of the Soviet example from WW2 is helpful. Stalin in 1941-1942 abandoned much principle to defeat Germany, setting aside the building of ‘Socialism in One Country’ to fight ‘The Great Patriotic War’. He encouraged pre-Revolutionary sentiments such as Christianity and the Motherland to activate the fighting spirit of the Russian people. He suspended his war on the Soviet officer corps. He openly and gladly accepted the vast… Read more »

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  pimpkin\'s nephew
5 years ago

Implying we wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for firebombing Japan and Germany? We had no reason to get involved in either World War.

Heresolong
5 years ago

ZMan, Seems to me that “not chasing the stick” is not as easy as you make it sound, unless you just walk away from the stick thrower. Most of us (myself included, sadly) are not good debaters. My brain doesn’t process that quickly. I can come up with good arguments and counter-arguments given time. How to respond to someone who asks you a direct and leading question, however, is not quite so easy. You can, I suppose, make a list of stock responses. I’ve added “and then what” for when someone proposes some stage 1 infantile public policy to force… Read more »

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  Heresolong
5 years ago

Jesus often answered a question with a question. I think that’s a better route than always having a big-brained nibba response on the tip of your tongue anyway. Make them explain themselves—get them to talk themselves into a corner.

“How’s that working out for you?”

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Nathan
5 years ago

I’ve used the answer a question with a question for years. In part because it’s a good technique but mainly because the Left and the Old Right often 1) never define their terms and 2) they have no rationale behind their statements. By asking them to define a word or explain why they are in favor of something, you destroy their “argument” because you expose that they don’t even have a position, just platitudes. For example, if someone calls you or someone else a racist, ask them what they mean by racist. They will get extremely flustered. If they say… Read more »

Tim
Tim
Member
5 years ago

Excellent on principles…the surest cuckservative tell is a bitter diatribe on liberal media hypocrisy. “We’ve been so loyal, so good…how could you betray us so?”

DeBeers Diamonds
DeBeers Diamonds
5 years ago

Off topic: The African mindset. If you want a clear eyed explanation of why “muh individual rights” are nothing more than a nearly unique feature to Anglo-America, read this thread. The African is obligated to pay for their deadbeat relatives, and whitey isn’t coughing up enough.

https://twitter.com/whoisSheena/status/1071917661502738432

wjkathman
wjkathman
5 years ago

“We need all the sober-minded people we can get.” Excellent line to end the main segments. Overdosing on black pills will ensure defeat. It’s fun to be a loose cannon. Yet, it’s also undisciplined and evidences poor priorities. One reason not to “play the role” of a caricatured anti-leftist villain is that it’s more important to convert normies to a dissident worldview than it is to piss off leftists (though I readily admit that doing the latter can be quite amusing). Normies scare easily, especially when dissidents so readily fit themselves to worn-out tropes such as “racist” or “sexist” or… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  wjkathman
5 years ago

I viewed the ‘dont play the role’ segment as basically just another angle on ‘dont chase the stick’. Both are about ‘frame control’. Dont accept the frame where you are defensive or the clown or ‘weird’ etc. Shift the frame so they are any or all of those.

Rod1963
Rod1963
Reply to  wjkathman
5 years ago

The problem is, what does the alt-right stand for, oppose, etc. We’ don’t even have talking points or anything else. Our so-called serious thinkers are either too busy being snarky or just can’t be bothered to put forth a FAQ and basic talking points. Saying we’re HBD’ers is worthless and can black pill people against you real fast if you start talking about genetically engineering superior humans like Sailer has done or telling the normie he is a meat machine with no free will(NPC) and people will think “He’s a Nazi”. Worse, there is no go to site to point… Read more »

David_Wright
Member
5 years ago

Any ideas for a launch page to replace Drudge? Force of habit here for so many years.

In an age of hedonism and non religious beliefs being prevalent we sure have a lot of piety.

Member
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Daily Stormer? Say what you want… it’s funny, and has relevant news.

Dutch
Dutch
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Weasel Zippers

Drake
Drake
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Doug Ross?

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

whatfinger.com

Enjoy… it is Drudge of 10 years ago basically.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
5 years ago

I have tried with whatfinger but I cannot get over how bad the website looks. There’s really no excuse for it. Why do you have to use so many colors? so many fonts? It’s just a mess.

And I really enjoyed the podcast and I like that you ended by telling people not to despair. Very appropriate

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Whitney
5 years ago

But Drudge looks fantastic?

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Vizzini
5 years ago

It’s been a while since I’ve been to Drudge but as I recall it was just very simple. Very black and white. Kind of like this website. Not messy. I just don’t think a bunch of colors and fonts and flashing lights make a website more interesting. I’m interested in the content not the presentation. Totally agree with the Z man though, drudge became fake news. Sometimes his headlines wouldn’t even have anything to do with the article they linked to and other times they didn’t even link to anything. Giving up drudge was a great decision

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
5 years ago

I think discussing gay marriage at all is a form of chasing the stick, only a little better than arguing about trannies in bathrooms, which is much like discussing precautions to protect jackolopes crossing highways in its real world impact. It’s a topic of such minuscule societal import that to have a strong opinion one way or the other betrays a lack of proportion. I’m gay but I could literally care less about gay marriage. I think it’s pointless, but if it were made legal tomorrow, I would be completely neutral. I see it as a leftist diversionary tactic—something that… Read more »

Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Neutral
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
5 years ago

I just wanted to say Jackelope. But really, I mean it’s a establishment diversionary tactic. To create great theater and make it appear as though there’s a political debate, when in fact there is not.

Exurban
Exurban
Reply to  Chaotic Neutral
5 years ago

”the real issues, the borders, the neocon wars, the trade deals.”

Those really are the Big 3, aren’t they? You could quibble about the wording or the emphasis, you could point out that they’re all subsets of globalism vs nationalism, but it’s those three. They got Trump elected, and every time you run into somebody with any degree of awareness the talk gets around to those three areas.

Hank Curmudgeon
Hank Curmudgeon
5 years ago

You have a cat??? I always figured you for a dog person…go figure.

Pursuvant
Pursuvant
5 years ago

If you opened the door to left over year end thoughts?…

Principles inform a society (or they used to), look at cities past & present you can see what people cared about in how they built towns.

Go back a bit and the grandest buildings were churches, usually in town center. Later political palaces had to be built even larger to show political dominance over theology. Today it’s skyscrapers where business/$$$ runs the show.

Tomorrow it will be the Chinese launching Sauron’s eye with a space elevator.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  Pursuvant
5 years ago

I think we are shifting from business buildings to condos / playgrounds for the elites.
https://one57.com/one57

Member
5 years ago

Looking forward to the show tonight. Josh Neal is a smart guy.

ProZNoVx
ProZNoVx
Reply to  Todd_Brown
5 years ago

Likewise. I’ve listened to the Zman once before. It’s always interesting to hear the free flow exchange of ideas in real time. John Derbyshire had a good quote on this once. Paraphrasing (because I can’t find the quote) “In print, a genius. In speeches, passable. In person, an idiot.” Being able to communicate effectively and intelligently in a real time medium is a very real challenge, particularly when there is give and take between the moderator and the guest(s). Tuning in at 8pm. Must listen now; frankly, it’s a miracle that The Zman hasn’t been kicked off of Youtube for… Read more »

Shrugger
Shrugger
5 years ago

Not sure what time 8PM DST is, but based on the link it appears to be 6PM Central.

Greg Gee
Greg Gee
5 years ago

The right wing is comprised of lonely sexually frustrated white males

https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/12/14/13576192/alt-right-sexism-recruitment

His is why the government needs to shut down hate speech

Member
Reply to  Greg Gee
5 years ago

Thanks Tiny for your input.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  David_Wright
5 years ago

Hey now, he quoted Vox!