Echo & The Cucky Men

One of the strange aspects of the Obama years was how much of what they did was an effort to address old wounds that still haunted the Left. Health care reform is the obvious example. The Left never got over how Bill Clinton threw the Left overboard after Hillary’s health care debacle led to the 1994 election wipe-out. The Obama effort was all about addressing that old wound. The ultimate product looked like the result of a revenge fantasy, mostly because it was about addressing those old wounds.

It was not just health care. The entirety of the Obama administration was about the past, despite his endless jabbering about the glorious future. Their dealings with Iraq and Afghanistan were mostly about “proving” Bush was wrong and they were right about how to respond to 9/11. Their Iran policy was a do-over of the Carter years and their Russia policy was a do-over of the 1980’s. They even pitched Obama at one point as the Progressive answer to Reagan, He was their Ronald Reagan.

It’s not just the Left playing the old records and dreaming of better days. The 2016 Trump campaign was a WWE version of the Reagan campaign of 1980. The slogan “Make American Great Again” was borrowed from the Gipper. He ran on the slogan “Let’s make America great again” in his successful 1980 presidential campaign. It’s pretty clear Trump intends to use some version of “It’s Morning In America” in his reelection campaign next year. This campaign ad will feature a panda, rather than a grizzly.

Of course, his presidency has been a call back to past events as well. The seditious conspiracy against him by the FBI and CIA is an echo of what the Left accused Nixon of plotting back in the 1970’s. Both sides are replaying the past as a do-over. Team Trump is going win the Watergate this time, while the Left is sure Trump is going to pull off his face at any moment and reveal himself to be Tricky Dick. In this version, to keep with the current age, Peter Strzok is the soy-man version of G. Gordon Liddy.

The endless echoes of politics past is sure to continue, as we see in the Democratic presidential field. The only two people talking about the present are Gabbard and Yang, both of whom will be ushered off the stage by Labor Day. The rest all sound like museum exhibits from previous eras. Joe Biden is actually running on the slogan “Make America Normal Again.” That sounds a lot like Carter’s campaign in 1976, after Nixon and Watergate, where he promised to restore dignity to politics.

Politics is always a repeat of the past, to some degree, but what makes this age a weird echo is debates themselves. The biggest issues facing the West are never discussed, outside of dissident circles. Trump ran on immigration and trade, but no one talks about those anymore. The Democrats could be running on the student debt issue or the crisis facing the young people of the middle-class. Instead they are talking about socialism, as if it is this brand new idea that has never been tried.

One reason for this entirely backward looking perspective is demographics. Both political parties are built to compete for the votes of Baby Boomers, who remain the largest identifiable cohort. The Boomers are entering the last turn of their race, so inevitably they are sentimental and nostalgic. The fact that the most likely contest in 2020 is between an octogenarian and a septuagenarian, both white and both male, will allow Baby Boomer voters to feel like they are still young and hip.

That’s probably the single biggest cultural problem facing America today. The Baby Boom generation is not going to age gracefully. Instead of picking which one of their kids will take their keys away, they will keep a white-knuckled grip on the wheel until the country goes over the cliff. Nancy Pelosi should be in a rest home right now. Instead she wanders around the capital in her bathrobe and slippers, the third most powerful person in the Imperial government, unable to remember her own name.

The blame is not all on the Boomers. As America becomes majority-minority, the cost of cobbling together a coalition goes up. Bringing blacks and angry Jewish feminists together into a coalition is near impossible. Delivering anything to the white middle-class means standing in front of the open sewer that is Progressive morality. Multicultural America is an ungovernable riot of competing interests, so it is a lot easier to go the nostalgia route and court the white Baby Boomers. It’s easy and fun.

There’s also the fact that no one wants to face up to the truth of the current situation in present day America. Inviting in 50 million strangers was a bad idea. Fixing it means telling most of them to go home. Civil Rights was arguably noble and decent, but the downstream result was a disaster. Bringing back free association is too scary for the soft men and unstable women of the ruling class. Our political class is mostly cucks and kooks, unable and unwilling to muster anything resembling courage.

That’s where we are now. America is a country ruled by cucks who are afraid of the future, so they rummage around in the past. They’re like children putting on shows for their parents, wearing their clothes and singing their songs. It’s all echoes of the past and cucking to current fads. It is an entirely useless ruling elite that will have to be wiped away, before we can face the future. Barring an asteroid strike and societal collapse, it means waiting for the great Baby Boomer die off to clear the path forward.

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Whitney
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1 year ago

I don’t think the current demographic landscape is going to be able to keep up with the complexity of the system. This is a system built by white men for white men and being forced to hand over the reins to low IQ people is not going to work. Idiocracy was funny because the robots are already taking over but we’re not there yet. In my majority-minority city every time a water main breaks I wonder if we’re still capable of fixing it. So far so good but Detroit is everyone’s future but without the state pumping money into it

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

Did a tour of duty in Detroit back in the Coleman Young days…was a fully formed third world kleptocracy back then. Only miracle was that it continued as long as it did. One good thing is the experience anchored my reference point for what “bad” is compared to the other places I’ve lived in since.

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
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Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

We all hope for an eventual uprising from our tribe but look at how far we’ve fallen in just 1 single generation. Except for our fringe movement no one else is even tapping the brakes. It’s possible we will never stop falling and devolve into 5th rate status. At some point there is nothing left worth fighting for. Just in terms of agency, there seems to be a linear decline in get-up-and-go as you move from the Boomers down to Gen Z. Some days the glass looks half empty other days half full. There is a lot of enthusiasm on… Read more »

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 year ago

This is a real concern I share. It’s not just the old Boomers who have to go. I won’t fight for a culture that doesn’t absolutely reject the degeneracy represented by gay marriage and the right of women to dye their hair blue and get full-sleeve tats, let alone slaughter their unborn child in the womb. I often feel drawn to the desert like those fourth century monks who fled the decadence and decay of the urban outposts of the Roman imperial decline. Life today is pushing the cortisol to 11. It seems like fight or flight is the only… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Maus
1 year ago

For many of us, just holding on to our identity, not adapting to the current truths, etc., is warfare enough. Decide where you stand and stand there, until knocked over – just stay defiant. You don’t have to argue with people; let the way you live be the counter-argument. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a hero of mine in this respect. The first task of one who would defend civilization is to be a representative of civilization. We talk of cleansing meteors but that’s childish. No sane human being wants the world to burn because he hates trannies and George Soros and… Read more »

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
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Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

The endless leftward drift only ends when absolutism cuts it off:

Ave Caesar not Ave Maria.

Peisistratos, Sulla, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Stalin, Hitler, Deng Xiaoping, Plague…stop Cthulhu.

If this is followed by a renaissance it will depend upon who’s left: is it Charlemagne and Deng…or is it Lenin and Stalin…

Graf vo Zeppelin
Graf vo Zeppelin
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 year ago

How about Francisco Franco? Dictator and all-around hard-ass, yes—but withal an avatar and upholder of Western Civilization. The Generalisimo’s efforts effectively rescued Spain from the prevailing chaos of the Popular Front regime in 1936 and prevented the country from succumbing to the fate of becoming a full-blown Stalinist regime in Western Europe. Likely several millions of Spanish people draw breath today as a direct consequence. Any country could to do loads worse, no?

Yves Vannes
Yves Vannes
Member
Reply to  Graf vo Zeppelin
1 year ago

Yes, Franco.

Anti-Gnostic
Anti-Gnostic
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 year ago

Absolutely not.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 year ago

I’m not the best white pill guy but Europe gives me hope. It’s going to take more time than I likely have left but I’ll hopefully point some youngsters in a better direction while I watch Globohomo burn.

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Yves Vannes
1 year ago

But is it enough to stave off the decay reaching a point when most people simply give up?

Are people tempted to give up because they understand, realistically, that their nation and culture are a write-off and all that’s left is carpe diem? Or are they waiting for a movement of ideas that will crystallize for them what they can do to restore a civilization that, however imperfect because it’s human, is worth loyalty and even sacrifice?

On that question hangs the balance between surrender and renaissance.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

Not only was the system built for high IQ white men, it was also built for moral, honest people willing to sacrifice to preserve the system. Not only are our current rulers cucks, they are evil power hungry liars, who are foolish enough to think they will survive the collapse of the system they are actively trying to destroy.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

Agree. Emphatically

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

I’ve listened to this Edward Dutton fellow a lot recently. Over the weekend he and Richard Spencer had a good discussion. One of Dutton’s views is that IQ is declining and has been declining for a long time. Smarter people have less babies, while stupid people have more. That’s even without considering the millions of migrants, which will accelerate the IQ decline.

Tim
Tim
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

He’s got a book out, At Our Wits End. Very good read.

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  Whitney
1 year ago

Even in homogeneous white and asian societies, average IQ is seeing serious drops. Jews have fallen off a cliff as a group in standard testing. Unz has a brilliant novela style piece on this and how the white Christians are the most discriminated against in ivy league admission. It’s astonishing really, I do wonder what is happening. Is idiocracy unavoidable?

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Johnny55
1 year ago

Its a high probability that we’ll get what is called a catabolic collapse. https://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-05-31/catabolic-collapse/ TL:DR version is that society is too complex and expensive to sustain and as such will collapse to a more sustainable model We might get idiocracy along the way but a simple lack of ability to get resources we need at an affordable cost will doom modernity in time and the automated systems will simply stop working My guess is 200 years from now won’t be Star Trek as we won’t have the energy for widespread electrification or the like. Instead you’ll get schitzotech Amish Paradise… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  A.B Prosper
1 year ago

Good site & the post is a good read. Gene Wolfe’s New Sun is how I see the eventual new equilibrium – low tech masses with a hyper-tech elite aristocracy. Herbert’s Dune reads much the same. Fukiyama missed the mark entirely in thinking democracy was a crowning achievement of progress. Those not high on his prop nation supply see that it leads to Huxley & Orwell, not Galt’s Gulch.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

I basically agree though our aristocracy including the tech elite couldn’t maintain a lot of the high technology at least as we have it today I suspect there will be at early stages, under a few centuries, simple cars and maybe occasional warplanes but something like the few years old computer I’m posting from is fiendishly complex to make and fragile Also unlike in the past the tech elite at least tend to fairly small families and no real inheritance Bill Gates has three kids but it seems to practice among today’s wealthy is to give the kids a “starter… Read more »

David_Wright
Member
1 year ago

People use the Boomer term when just old is more accurate. Pelosi is no Boomer nor many that get blamed. Just a pet peeve for me.

Now when Boomers get out of the way then what? GenX, Millennials? Pretty useless. There aren’t any really promising signs of a generation that will right the ship. Maybe we have taken on too much water. Maybe start thinking more of a generational alliance, much more useful.

Drake
Drake
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

I actually don’t blame the Boomers for much. They were born after our first horrible experiment with socialism – the New Deal and resulting Great Depression. They were raised by the idiots who still idolized FDR. They had to go fight an stupid war – which they won anyhow, only to have it given back by their elders. The first big elections in which they were all adults were won by Reagan.

Maybe the whole blaming arbitrary generations instead of individuals is nonsense.

Normie
Reply to  Drake
1 year ago

But blaming whole races makes sense 🙂

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

No one here does that. Large group tendencies do not mean every person in that group is alike or responsible for the actions of that group. One can make an argument that say all elite are responsible as they operate like a tribe if you are willing to go down that route but entire races and generations are far too large for that mindset. Broadly the Silents, the WW2 generation and Korea generation everyone up to 1945 or so is the most responsible generation for America’s decline as they passed the laws and enforced them Where it went wrong with… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

Nothing says “well argued” like an emoticon in the place of a period; we’re not accustomed to that here at the Z blog, being adults with literate backgrounds.

Normie
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

Excellent intellectual comeback. Nothing says intellectual like acting an emoji instead of an argument.

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

The earliest of the Boomers were just out of high school when Hart-Celler was made law. The people who gave us that law grew up one or two generations prior, and the rumblings toward it it must have gone back several generations before that.

MBlanc46
Reply to  Cerulean
1 year ago

We are constantly being blamed for things that happened well before we could vote (I’m an early Boomer and the first national election for which I was eligible to vote was 1968). A lot of the damage was done by 1968.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 year ago

My first vote was 1980, and what a delightful year that was. Gipper – in; Al D’Amato (our last GOP senator in NY) in; around the nation people like the odious Frank Church – out; McGovern – out. I forget all the details but it ruled. I was 20, girls everywhere, and the libs on the run. I want 1980 again.

THAT was morning in America.

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  Cerulean
1 year ago

Hart-Cellar was forced upon people. To keep folks from rioting in the street, LBJ & Teddy Kennedy assured folks that it wouldn’t change the racial demographics of the country. And it didn’t, right away. You also have to take into account that the majority of counties in America all the way up til the early 80s were 96% white, most people still traveled very little, and when they did, it was within a 2-3 state radius. They slow boiled the frog, before yanking the knob up to rolling boil the last 2 decades. You have ppl to this day who… Read more »

John Hume
John Hume
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

Exactly, it’s much more important to build alliances between generations. This generational warfare nonsense is one of the biggest impediments to an incredibly important element of dissident politics: mentorship. Baby boomers and millennials have a lot in common, including shared experiences in a time of political flux.

MBlanc46
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

That’s the Red Queen theory of language. You can use a word to mean anything you want, but then it means nothing at all.

ulithi
ulithi
Reply to  MBlanc46
1 year ago

Join he discussion…Do you mean Humpty Dumpty theory of language? The question still remains,,’who is to be master..”

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

“…Boomers have to stop being so prickly about the use of the term Boomer.”

I respectfully disagree.

Smiling and asking for more when our generation is singled out for abuse goes hand in hand with doing the same when they attack white males generally.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Cerulean
1 year ago

Absolutely. As far back as the mid-90s, when I went through the gauntlet of race-aggression at graduate school, I was made to understand that ‘being white’ isn’t NECESSARILY “being white”. Whiteness is a state of mind, which with proper training can be brought to heel through a careful program of good thinking. You aren’t being condemned for being a a literal boomer or a literal white – fates such as these can be evaded by adapting to the newspeak alternatives: Not a boomer, but a “boomer”; not a white, but a “white”. Our ball club is getting better at this… Read more »

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

I rarely see GenXers like me & Z castigated, but both of us missed the arbitrary generational bracket of Baby Boomer, 1946-1964, by a hair. Leaving aside obvious things like my BB husband, born in 1946, has way more in common culturally, politically, ideologically, etc., with my mother, born in 1936, than he does with either my sister, born in 1956, or me, born in 1966. Wasn’t it Rand-McNally or some large insurance company that first come up with the whole idea of generational groupings, & it gained traction because the narcissistic Boomers that shaped the culture, liked the idea… Read more »

Johnny55
Johnny55
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

“Dems R The Real Racists…” lol

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Many of you are reacting to Baby Boomers with disgust. Believe you are reacting to certain qualities of human nature wrapped in the unique generational wrapping paper of Boomers that you can’t seem to see are the same qualities of all younger generations. I’m a Boomer and grind my teeth about the behavior of many Boomers. My generation did not produce stately women and manly men that are images of great leaders in the home or community. Can understand your disgust watching these old skanky bitches like Fonda and Maclaine still rutting around in movies and writing/shrieking about it. Who… Read more »

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  Range Front Fault
1 year ago

Afterthought: Z is right on this point about Boomers, we are as a generational herd absolutely stuck in fuzzy, gauzy blinkers mode about biological reality/race realism, i.e. we should all be equal, those who are unequal should be given an affirmative action/reparations hand to raise them above us, Boomers are awash in guilt so big like a cloud on the mountain top the BoomerButts can’t see beyond the cloud of guilt that all white people should atone for raaaacism against all people of color…..because whites are Bad and held them back. When my generation is mostly gone, you youngers won’t… Read more »

ulithi
ulithi
Reply to  Range Front Fault
1 year ago

Join the discussion…well said. Pray it is not a whirlwind.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  ulithi
1 year ago

Our political whirlwinds shall not be any less than the tornadoes of Oklahoma and Kansas.

MBlanc46
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

Nancy Pelosi, b. 1940. For the US, that’s pre-, not post-war. This entire generation business is not particularly enlightening, but if folks are going to use it, they should at least get it right.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

Yeah, I’m getting pretty tired of the Boomer bashing myself. Seems we get all the blame but none of the credit. We made this damn country and kept it going until now—good and bad. So I challenge you, Z-man, to stop bashing and start explaining what you predict can, will, and should happen when the largest stable and highest IQ cohort disappears and you are left with a mishmash of POC minorities (in total, the majority of residents) with an average IQ of 90! It’s pretty easy to bash—seemingly your new pastime—and I’m predicting you have no answers, just bitterness.… Read more »

Normie
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Love it… A site based on bashing minorities takes offense to the Blogger bashing their worthless Generation… The irony.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

The irony is you, Normie. You’ve exposed your ignorance, your pretentiousness and your inhumanity very concisely here. I hope you are young; you might grow out of it.

We’re having a conversation among adults here. Mind your manners.

Normie
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

Weird. I thought I made a good point: that bashing huge swaths of people is always wrong.

But I guess the easiest thing to do when you’ve been made a fool of is to pretend your “the adult.” So Boomer of you…

Carrie
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

HEY NORMIE –
Turn off your interwebz (if you know how) and go glue your face to the bloody CNN propaganda you’re so fond of. They’ll have what you’re looking for: Leftists galore.

We don’t (at least, I don’t) expect you to find your brain any time soon. Don’t let the metaphorical door hit you on the way out.

Normie
Reply to  Carrie
1 year ago

Hey Carrie,
Sorry I hurt your feelings by stating the obvious.
Feel free to skip my comments for now on and stick in your old person bubble of ignorance and racism… I’ll keep living in the real world where people like you aren’t even allowed to speak what you believe in public.

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

So, Boomer is your trigger word, lol? You guys are as sensitive as a Millennial whale in a bikini or Lolbergtarians. For me, it’s easy. We GenXers f*cked up our kids by being both helicopter parents who refused to let our kids experience even the tiniest failure, while simultaneously giving them every single consumable good we could afford, all while telling them their future would be ruined if they didn’t rack up 5 &:6 figure debt attending college indoctrination centers, because, OF COURSE, they could be whatever they dreamed of being, no matter how useless or absurd the dream. We… Read more »

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
1 year ago

Maybe we should put aside this generational stuff in the interest of more important things.

But that means actually put it aside.

Da Booby
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
1 year ago

Gen-X should have rebelled against the Boomers, just like the Boomers rebelled against the WWII generation. Instead, Gen-X unquestioningly accepted the hippified country they lived in, and didn’t dare upset the spoiled brat Boomers who created it.

Can’t blame them, the Booby supposes. It’s hard to rebel when you’re raised with few, if any, rules, pathological permissiveness, and mom and dad are “friends” not disciplinarians.

Gen-X grew up as the hippy wave of pussification swept across society. Not surprisingly, the ones with Boomer parents grew up to be pussies.

And here we are.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Da Booby
1 year ago

Gen-X was too busy trying to understand, survive, and then game the system run by the Boomers. They then figured out that Boomers gonna die someday. Then we can start fixing things. “Biden” our time.

Rod1963
Rod1963
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

I agree. Blaming Boomers doesn’t cut it, And I really don’t trust people pushing generational strife. I mean WTF is next, box car rides for Boomers to the local quarry. The shit is self-defeating. The fact is most of the serious damage inflicted on the country came from the ruling class and Wall Street. They chose who we voted for; they kept the borders open and didn’t enforce immigration law; they shackled us with crooked trade deals that gutted industry and devastated entire states; they looted businesss by the hundreds with LBO’s. None of this was our doing. Much was… Read more »

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  Rod1963
1 year ago

“The fact is most of the serious damage inflicted on the country came from the ruling class and Wall Street”

Boomers are responsible for our current mess in the same way the Japanese are responsible for bombing Pearl Harbor.

When the boomers are gone, Gen X will be the problem, etc. No generation has righted the ship yet. The generation that does will be heros. Don’t take it personally if it doesn’t apply to you.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Rod1963
1 year ago

Absolutely. I love the Z man and understand that generational differences exist – in fuzzy logical terms – but this herding of people into categories is lazy, insensitive, and unconstructive, producing offense and annoyance among those of us who are entirely on this team. It’s like we’re overpaid veterans on a baseball team being waived or traded for draft picks and minor leaguers. It’s what the Left does everyday. We’re better than this – it’s not who we are. Anyway it’s not who I am. One of Orwell’s last essays was about Gandhi. Orwell suspected him of being somewhat of… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
1 year ago

There’s no way the USA stays intact. I don’t know when it splits apart and I don’t know how, but all the political fighting and animosity going on now is nothing compared to what’s coming.

KHS71
KHS71
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

When and if the Rats push through their Popular Vote scheme where the candidate who gets the most votes nationally is elected President , then you may see some movement on secession. It will effectively negate votes in about 45 states. Only a few states will then determine the winner and only on the coasts. Middle America will not be happy.

Normie
Reply to  KHS71
1 year ago

Right now the coasts aren’t happy that a few swing states control everything…

Why is it that people are fine with their own team owning the cards, but when someone else starts taking over… then its “WE NEED CIVIL WAR!”

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

Normie said
“Why is it that people are fine with their own team owning the cards, but when someone else starts taking over… then its “WE NEED CIVIL WAR!”’

Competition 101:
Don’t let your opponent win.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

If you think that the Midwest or “a few swing states” have “owned all the cards” at any time in the last 100 years, you’re more delusional than the average Normie. And oh, yeah, hi Tiny, how’s it goin’? Still no life yet?

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

Dumb question. Who doesn’t want to win & crush their enemies? I certainly do.

Primi Pilus
Primi Pilus
Reply to  Normie
1 year ago

This dude’s name for himself is pure misdirection. He/she/xhir is in no way “Normie.” — This one is a hard-leftie disinformational-disruptor. The rejoinder to his/her/xhir comment is obvious: — National Popular Vote is a naked scheme to subvert the constitution, something no true “Normie” would countenance. — The intent of that subversion is to ensure electoral decision is shifted fully to the most dense population areas, which are nearly all hard left (minus a few like those in OK). — it fully disenfranchises rural / flyover America, which almost uniformly supports traditional concepts of American founding, culture and individual character.… Read more »

williamwilliams
williamwilliams
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Politically, dissolution of the USA is the best we can hope for.
In any event, there will be plenty of pain to go around.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  williamwilliams
1 year ago

In your new Land of Nod post secession, I can be your tribal storyteller:

There once were two cats of Kilkenny,
Each thought there was one cat too many,
So they fought and they fit,
And they scratched and they bit,
Till, excepting their nails
And the tips of their tails,
Instead of two cats, there weren’t any.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
1 year ago

Well, that brings up another question nobody wants to answer: how old is too old to vote? Or run for office?

TBoone
TBoone
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

Ruth Bader Ginsburg could not be reached for comment.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  TBoone
1 year ago

You obviously need a new psychic and need to put more effort into your seances…😆👍

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Glenfilthie
1 year ago

In my utopia, married men (or widowers) with at least one child, who own real property, and whose family takes no government assistance should get a vote when they are 35 years old. You get two votes if you have 4+ children. You lose the vote if you take any form of gov’t money (e.g. social security). You only get to vote in the town you have spent the majority of your adult life in, and only then if you still live there > 90% of the time. Cosmopolitan travelers and snowbirds need not apply.

Monty James
1 year ago

C’moooooonnnn, asteroid.comment image

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Monty James
1 year ago

Ace’s Sweet Meteor of Death was one of his better memes.

Epaminondas
Member
Reply to  Monty James
1 year ago

This just in. Large meteor hits Atlanta. Women and minorities hardest hit. Details at eleven.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
1 year ago

You know, we keep saying boomers arent going to age gracefully. I say, they haven’t aged gracefully. But, they are the best we got and after they they are gone, the slippery slope gets steeper. The moderate, old, white boomer is the only group in the country capable of delivering policies moderates want. Right wing Gen X politicians are all Christian suburban types that POCs and apathetic millenials intrinsically hate. While Prog politicians of all ages are trying to be POC groveling millenials. Tim Pool, whose identity is being politically moderate, wants policy from a white country but cant admit… Read more »

CAPT S
CAPT S
1 year ago

Our country hasn’t seen governmental statesmanship for several decades; it’s simply a lost tradition, along with archaic things that many hope will bring national revival, such as “the Constitution” or “the Republic” or “sovereign states” or “elections matter.” All those things in quotations were important for a USA that had a common language, national identity, effective borders, and two readily apparent genders. But that USA that we read about in history books no longer exists. I tend to think Millennials grasp that better than Boomers, yet it seems the Millenial responses are things like open-borders, unfettered democracy, and a myriad… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  CAPT S
1 year ago

I agree, but think it will take longer to unravel. The media and culture are dominated by gays, so the sissified zeitgeist seems larger than it is. We will also at some point be constrained from offering welfare to the world by the debt time bomb.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
1 year ago

Think I picked up the “Cargo Cult” theme here. But what passes for “elites” are simply at a loss for any new ideas, so they just fall back on the old rituals hoping that the “bounty” will magically return. Problems with race that ultimately link to behavioral and cognitive characteristics? Conjure the spirit of the Klan and Nate Forrest! Toss in some trannies and intersectionality for extra credit. As much as the left denigrates the 50s, they sure wish the fruits of economic hegemony were still around to pay their bills. Trump drives them nuts because he keeps asking why… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
1 year ago

Perhaps Boomers inclined to read this blog get a small dispensation?

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
1 year ago

“Boomer” is useful shorthand for “out-of-touch, stuck in the past” mindset. Just like there are White N!ggers (as Robert Byrd said) there are young boomers. Take Nick Fuentes for example.

There are based boomers but most are still dreaming of their MLK America which cannot possibly exist. Politics will change when they’re gone. I don’t like cheering day of the pillow though. I’ll still miss some of them.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

My exasperation with the BoomerCons is that they are, generally speaking, the only people who still believe the Constitution and race-blind individualism will save us. Their economic success insulates them from the realities that would dissuade them from their civnat beliefs. If they could wake up, the impact would be enormous but they are determined not to see and that is frustrating.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

I still have some hope. I was born in 1964, so the last year for boomers. In the course of several years, I went from being a Reagan/Bush, National Review, civnat, immigrant sympathizing, GDP worshipper with libertarian leanings, to a Zman reading, race realist, closed borders, non-interventionist, fair trade, Trump supporter (disappointed that he is merely at the rightward end of the liberal Overton window).

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

One of the hardest things for me has been losing the friendships of buddies who served in the MIGA wars. Military guys are generally solid citizens but they’re the most converged BoomerCons. I still have their backs but they think I’ve gone Commie.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

I’ve had some discussions with BoomerCon friends about changing demographics. I’ll point out that minorities vote overwhelmingly Dem, and they’re adamant that they’re on the verge of abandoning the Dems to vote GOP. They really think this is a movement percolating that’s going to save the GOP, and all will be fine.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Blacks and Hispanics are much more culturally conservative than the Left. Blacks are anti-gay, religious, pro-gun and anti-Jew, while Hispanics are religious and anti-abortion. The impact of that on how they vote is about 10%. The remaining 90% of their focus is on who is gonna gimme what.

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* HAHAHAHAHAHA! Ah, yes. “family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande. ” Wow, who knew a Bush family member posted here??? Never lived near or interracted on a close basis with minorities, huh? They abort they keedz at an over 50% rate, 74% born out of wedlock, commit around 75% of murders, 89% of rapes, 85% of robberies, drugs, DUIs. Incest and domestic battery is as common as dishwater, the majority of trannies are non white, black gay sex in prison is not considered “gay,” but rather as a sexual emergency or as a show of force,… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
1 year ago

Creflo Dollar would like to have a word with you about his black Christian private jet. I thought every good pastor flies one around!

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  LineInTheSand
1 year ago

Don’t forget their penchant for supporting any war to protect “our greatest ally”…

Cerulean
Cerulean
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

It would help us understand what you wrote if you told us which version of Boomers you were referring to.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

Then find a new term. I for one am of the generation that for decades has been described/denoted as “Boomers” yet, every time you use the term, it is in a derogatory context. Like I said, I’m getting more than tired of it. I have so far been patient and took such in what I thought was good humor, but such is wearing thin these days.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Born in 48 but no one has called me a boomer, yet. When that happens I’ll correct them. I’m a buuster. Break up the United States.

Zeroh Tollrants
Zeroh Tollrants
Reply to  james wilson
1 year ago

No, you’re not, you Goober.
46-64-Boomer
65-83-GenX, AKA, Baby Buster.

The amount of butthurt in these comments is like reading a Millennial girl’s Tumblr blog.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Zeroh Tollrants
1 year ago

The wife and I are in one of those weird in-between spaces between GenX and Millennial – ’80 and ’83. We grew up mostly like GenX then when college hit HOLY SHIT THE INTERNET! CELL PHONES! DIGITAL EVERYTHING!

It’s like we have no place anywhere. The soy millennialism of my younger siblings disgusts me, and the GenX bleakness and depression just makes me angry.

Independent_George
Independent_George
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Instead of having a cry have a think about why z refers to boomers in this way. Obviously not ALL boomers are responsible for the civil rights virtue signalling leftist mess we find ourselves in but the generation as a whole most definitely was.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Compsi, one can only hope that someday you may learn it’s not all about you.

Tacitus
Tacitus
Reply to  Nathan
1 year ago

I’d almost want to generalize it further to the point where it describes a group of people so unwilling to face the reality of the situation, they run away in order to continue to believe the lies.

I also think I know what the younger generations version will look like: the techno futuristic cult surrounding elon musk. Even though he is an obvious huckster pitching monorails for VC shekels, he offers a promise of a future order than being surrounding by a sea of smelly brown. White flight in space is the pipe dream of the bugman.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tacitus
1 year ago

Tacitus, you touch on a good point wrt Elon Musk. Total huckster and probably a true grifter, but he sings a song of hope for the future and that is very powerful. A budding rightest movement could learn from him in this respect.

Tacitus
Tacitus
Reply to  Compsci
1 year ago

Compsci: What musk is, is a magician in the true (esoteric) sense of the word. Magic being the art of manipulating others perceptions of reality in order to influence the choices they will make. When it is done for selfless purposes, it is white magic and fairly innocuous, often benevolent. When it is done for selfish purposes (greed, power, etc), it is black. This is the ‘unveiled’ definition from antiquity. To that end, yes, our movement will certainly benefit from the selfless variety, which we actually have quite a bit of already, albeit decentralized. Attempts to ennoble your fellow man,… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Tacitus
1 year ago

Good analogy wrt Musk the magician. He deflects to keep the masses from wising up on his (mis) adventures. Jordan, I don’t completely agree on.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Tacitus
1 year ago

Some bright and worthy people, like Moldbug, were into Seasteading. As a practical idea it’s ridiculous on multiple wipe-out levels, yet they didn’t seem to work that out. As an analogy it works to concentrate the mind on the conditions in which humans work best, the first being free association.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Tacitus
1 year ago

Re: ” I’d almost want to generalize it further to the point where it describes a group of people so unwilling to face the reality of the situation, they run away in order to continue to believe the lies. ” Among the hard core gun rights crowd – there’s a term for those people: Fudds The behavior is similar to the right-wing immigration cucks who think importing the third world will work out just fine because the Dems said so. The Fudds are pretty much always for any type of gun legislation – because they’re sure it will never go… Read more »

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Tacitus
1 year ago

The left even noticed that far too many of his rocket scientists and engineers at SpaceX are white. Diversity doesn’t get you to the moon. SpaceX is his least bad idea (but tunnels with vehicles on sleds is a pretty typical sci-fi type idea for moving cars around with a lot of upside). Some of his stuff is kooky, sure, but he’s willing to dream, which is more than I can say for most whites these days, glued to their Netflix and mobile games.

Peter Johnson
Peter Johnson
1 year ago

The truth is that the USA and I he world will be much better off when white “men” do not have institutional power.

Don’t believe me?

Just ask white women. They increasingly PREFER Men of Color for relationships and fathers of their children

That tells you something right there

Nathan
Nathan
Reply to  Peter Johnson
1 year ago

Is that you, Tiny Dick?

Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Nunnya Bidnez, jr.
Reply to  Peter Johnson
1 year ago

Hello TinyDuck!
Where would this blog be without trolls like you??

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Peter Johnson
1 year ago

The only women who prefer colored men are fatties who cash in their white credit to date above their attractiveness level.

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

And usually have to have 3-4 “vibrant” boyfriends to guarantee at least one is out on parole at any given time.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

Heartiste (PBUH) is the master of trolling ‘sharks. Godspeed, Roissy.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  DLS
1 year ago

Oh god I took my 3 year old to the kiddie amusement park the other day and the number of fat white girls with black children…

Dirtnapninja
Dirtnapninja
Reply to  Peter Johnson
1 year ago

Mudsharking improves the IQ of both races.

Calsdad
Calsdad
Reply to  Peter Johnson
1 year ago

LOL.

You just proved you’re a black male – because you’re too damn lazy to even come up with a new line of trollery.

This is the same stupid shit you posted about 2 weeks back.

Re: Institutional power.

I look forward to the day when the POC has “institutional power”. Seeing as how every single city where they’ve gained that power has turned into an open air shooting range – where the murder rate of black males goes sky high – and nobody gives a shit……..

Sounds like fun.

c matt
c matt
1 year ago

Make America Normal Again

You mean like the good old days when we had drag queens reading stories to little children in public libraries? Joe’s for that, idn’t he? The Dems are simply too far gone to make anything normal again.

Epaminondas
Member
1 year ago

“Barring an asteroid strike and societal collapse, it means waiting for the great Baby Boomer die-off to clear the path forward.”

Here’s one Boomer who hopes to be able to live long enough to see that happen.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

Bravo. I’m shooting for being the meanest, oldest rayciss ever. Ironically learning to “hate” has made me get in shape & take better care of myself. Let’s all live 100+ years & watch these mofos burn.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

Baby Boomers have pretty poor health all things considered as they figured they would be “forever young” and lived accordingly.

The oldest are now 73 and the youngest 55 and our society as decrepit as it is will outlast them and the Silents

No need for an intervention by SMOD

By the Mid 30’s when most figure SWHTF the oldest millennials will be over 50 and it will be up to Gen Z to figure this stuff out

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Epaminondas
1 year ago

The structural effects of the real estate and stock market selloffs as the Boomers try to unwind their assets so they don’t have to leave their kids anything should be a pretty good start.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  BadThinker
1 year ago

Where does one get that Boomers wish not to leave assets to heirs? Last report (I believe from Bloomberg) was that millennials are estimated to receive $62T (up from $48T last report) in inheritance in the next couple of decades—which would be the largest amount of transfer of wealth ever. I don’t follow such information as I’m not in the financial management business, but that sure doesn’t paint a picture of a profligate generation.

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
1 year ago

This constant re-hashing of the 1960’s – 1970’s has actually been going on quite a while. In many ways, the Iraq interventions were all about the mainstream Right looking for a Vietnam they could win, while much of the opposition to the war was a New Left “Greatest Hits of 1968” compilation. One of the reasons that the second Iraq war went wrong was that almost no one was seeing Iraq for what it was, as opposed to a surrogate Vietnam. I personally think that things are going to get worse, not better, after the older Boomers are gone, but… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 year ago

No different from the Socialists. “We’ll get democracy for the yellow/brown people right…this time”. Wars fall into two categories, “total” and “punitive expedition”. Every attempt to split the difference fails miserably.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  Altitude Zero
1 year ago

Altitude Z (zat you Crash_?),
I was in the military at the time and can confirm that Gulf War I was explicitly seen as a re-do of Vietnam by many both inside and outside the swamp, particularly near Boomers (e.g. Colon Powell, N Scwartzkopf, etc.) in senior command slots. But it was the ‘greatest generation’ still then in charge (Bush I, et al) that f**ed that ending up too. Small consolation.

JohnTyler
JohnTyler
1 year ago

“…One reason for this entirely backward looking perspective is demographics….” Maybe, maybe not. The democrats are Marxists; every policy they pursue is informed by their religious zealotry in pursuit of – they will say, a workers paradise, social justice for all, blah, blah, blah…, which of course is total bullshit.. But Marxists are Marxists and their true ultimate goal is attainment of total and complete power and the ability to live like Kings and Queens of Olde. Who thinks Maduro or Castro or Honnecker or Tito or Lenin or Ceausescu or .. take your pick….”toiled” with the workers, endured food/gasoline/electricity… Read more »

Frank
Frank
1 year ago

After speaking with my brother, a 25 year Army veteran, and my fiance’s daughter (24 year old PhD candidate) I realized that this country is doomed. If smart people like them cannot understand what socialism /communism is and what its ultimate impact on the country will be, we are finished. They both think the new green deal is great, that our social programs should be bigger and that we should allow our borders to be overrun by illegal immigrants. They think our future saviors are Occasional Cortex and people like her. I sit there with disbelief, and the desire to… Read more »

SamlAdams
SamlAdams
Reply to  Frank
1 year ago

“Democratic Socialist” –Socialist still waiting to sweep an election
“Socialist”–Communist without the guts to pick up his/her own AK
“Communist” — bodies and trenches are a “win/win”

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  SamlAdams
1 year ago

The Left knows they are slowly winning the economic conflict and as such have no reason to be violent.

In any case I don’t see the oh so brave Economic Liberals picking up their M4’s and resisting either.

The fact is wealth redistribution is a product of complex societies and more recently technology and its just no longer possible to do society on the cheap and have it work

However unless corruption and immigration are dealt with it won’t work either so you’ll end up poorer .

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Frank
1 year ago

The temporary fulfillment of age-old grandiose dreams was only made possible by the world shaped by the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and all that came through that door. Few people know anything different. That is their reality. People will learn their lessons after bankruptcy, not before. In our case the financial bankruptcy is dwarfed by the collapse of a people tethered to tradition formed through hard experience.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Frank
1 year ago

You would do the country a great service with that 2×4. Now if we could just pass them out to every dissident.

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  Frank
1 year ago

If they can’t see destruction staring them in the face, maybe those people aren’t really smart.

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Frank
1 year ago

The military practically runs on “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” so the vet doesn’t surprise me However Social Democracy =/= Communism and those people do know the difference . Load of countries redistribute wealth, have national pensions systems and welfare systems and for most people in them such systems provide a decent outcome They allow overpopulated nations with limited resources to have very decent standards of living and in terms of life expectancy and general health adjusted by race are on par and often better than the US And note the US GDP… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
1 year ago

….while the Left is sure Trump is going to pull off his face at any moment and reveal himself to be Tricky Dick.

Well, like Nixon, he is very liberal on a lot of issues!

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
1 year ago

Z Man; I don’t see why people think that things will automatically get better when we old Boomers all die off. It is the elite Boomer spawn who have already been stepping into their parents’ seats of power, not anyone else. They are no improvement: Think Hunter Biden. Staying with the Hunter Biden theme, the actual hope has to be that since these emerging elite Boomer spawn are even less competent than their parents, they’ll be easier to push aside. But they will need to be pushed. So simply waiting and hoping for better times when we’re all gone is… Read more »

Altitude Zero
Altitude Zero
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 year ago

In many ways, the Millennials are like the Boomers, only without the good points. The Zoomers may be better, but from what I’ve seen, I’m not getting my hopes up.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
Reply to  Al from da Nort
1 year ago

Nepotism implies continuity with the same. Every 100 years or so, old lines of power are severed and new ones formed. It’s part of human nature and human history. Dynastic changes. Old faces chiseled off the stone, like in ancient Egypt.

Al from da Nort
Al from da Nort
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

J R;
Time to cue up the cliche_?
– Hard times make strong men.
– Strong men make good times.
– Good times make soft men.
– Soft men make hard times.
I’d say line 1 started 100 years ago. Line 2 when we Boomers were spawned. Line 3 is now. Sucks to see that Line 4 looks to be just over the horizon.

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
1 year ago

Systems have a way of muddling through until the next crisis, which is always every 10 to 15 years or so. Just as an old man will shuffle along until he gets pneumonia or breaks a hip. The current system is a fragile old man. The baby boomers are the first generation to detach itself from organized religion en-masse. Religion brings a quiet assurance and dignity to old people. The baby boomers will become ever more manic and uncentered as their lives start slipping away from them. The next crisis will be a replay of 2008, but on a scale… Read more »

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  JR Wirth
1 year ago

Don’t be too sure about not getting through the next one,. The lack of demand for labor is deflationary as are overpriced assets which means the normal inflation risk from money printing is muted quite a bit This means that its much easier to goose demand with fake money since taking the fake money is the only alternative to bankruptcy, Its irrational but as Keynes noted “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” They may be able to print through several more crisis though the dunduification of our political culture means baring a cultural backlash, actually… Read more »

MBlanc46
1 year ago

I’m limping off the stage just as fast as I can. The old knees don’t work as well as they used to, you know. I do want to caution you that things might not get much better when we’re gone. They might even get worse. We’re the last generation alive who actually remember when the US was a great nation.

Frip
Member
1 year ago

The title of this post must seem odd to those who don’t know the band. Which is pretty much everyone here.

BlackSiteRenditions
BlackSiteRenditions
Reply to  Frip
1 year ago

I still own Echo & The Bunnymen LPs, so you’re wrong as is customary. Z plays top shelf music during his podcasts. Come to think of it, Trio’s “Da Da Da …” is perfect for you.

thud
Reply to  BlackSiteRenditions
1 year ago

First band I was in when 17 years old was Echo and the Bunnymen, we soon parted ways but are still friends.

thud
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

One of the better bands to come out of Liverpool, I was in band for a short time but made my own way in music later……fun for a young man, for a short while anyway.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  thezman
1 year ago

One of my favorite gen Xers, a nephew, gave up easy and profitable life as an electronics salesman, making big dough in his bathrobe on his computer, to become a Detroit copper. Money – down. Personal satisfaction – through the roof.

It all comes down to people and what’s in their heart.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Frip
1 year ago

Boomer here. And I’m very familiar with Echo & the Bunnymen, same with a lot of those types of bands back then, like Psychedelic Furs, the Cure, New Order, etc.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Frip
1 year ago

Or could it be that Z man knows his audience better than you do? Many of us have enjoyed Echo and the Bunnymen, the Smiths, Joy Division, Radiohead, Dead Can Dance, the Go-Betweens, blah blah blah. The names of half the bands I enjoyed in the eighties and nineties are lost to my declining mind. Fun, but hardly the Beatles or Mahler or RV Williams or Sibelius or Shostakovitch or Szymanowski or one of my heroes, Albérique Magnard, cut down wielding a gun against the advancing German army in 1914 Belgium. Several of his chamber pieces are to die for.… Read more »

Gravity Denier
Gravity Denier
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

Magnard is an underappreciated classical composer, along with Enescu, Ernst von Dohnányi, Martucci, Rubbra, Moeran … . No, not titans like Beethoven or Mahler, but very much worth getting to know.

Dutch
Dutch
1 year ago

Short time horizon. Everyone has that now. Back in the day, whites had a long, multi-generational time horizon. Plant the tree your grandson will sit under, and all that. Somewhere between the WW’s, Korea, and Vietnam, the time horizon shortened up. Not being drafted or serving a tour of duty was noble. Hanging around and not accomplishing much (“finding yourself”) was OK. Fealty to a spouse and a community became something to be mocked. Honestly, as a previously civnat conservative, my own time horizon has shortened up a lot in recent years. I do not see a larger community to… Read more »

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  Dutch
1 year ago

” Plant the tree your grandson will sit under, and all that. ”

I often think along these lines. I wonder how much inheritance taxes and easy, stigmaless divorce played into it.

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Rogeru
1 year ago

Inheritance taxes weren’t a big enough factor for the masses, they only affected the elites with a *lot* of money. Still do, in fact. I, for one, am all in favor of confiscating the wealth of the rich who vote to destroy the middle class by importing aliens to take their jobs.

Rogeru
Rogeru
Reply to  BadThinker
1 year ago

Inheritance tax seems to affect the ability to pass on the “family farm” and it would seem to make building generational wealth difficult unless you can afford the high dollar estate planners like the wealthy families can. In fact, inheritance tax doesn’t seem to have hurt the wealthy much beyond creating a class of leaches who manage money. Imagine if inheritance were tax free. Any somewhat responsible parent could pass a nest egg on to their children. In time, we’d see dynastic wealth, however modest, being acrued across the socio economic spectrum and we could start talking about the American… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
1 year ago

I’ve tried to keep some sympathy in my heart for the Boomers but they don’t reciprocate. Their shallow materialism, crappy consumer culture and vapid, ritualized patriotism cannot be hurled into eternal darkness soon enough. And that’s just the guys on the Right. The Left is guys like Bill Ayers & wahmen like his psychotic squeeze Bernadine. If anyone needs assistance writing the Based History of the Worst Generation, count me in.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

Please feel free to comment when your generation does any improvements worth noting.

David_Wright
Member
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

Got an idea for a replacement, I mean something viable in waiting?
But heh, what’s the deal with those Boomer jews? Am I right, huh, huh.

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  David_Wright
1 year ago

“If you don’t have a solution, you can’t criticize the problem” is a silencing tactic, not an argument.

If you’re this pissed at the diagnosis, you sure as hell can’t handle discussing the cure.

And who said anything about Jews? Is criticizing BoomerCons “anti-Semitic” now?

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

So what is the cure, Dr Exile?

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

Everything is Anti-Semitic now unless you profusely praise how you love Jews and think Israel is the best thing ever.

Lars Emilsson
Lars Emilsson
Reply to  Exile
1 year ago

@ Exile Agree that Ayers is scum. but he’s silent generation, not a boomer. Get your facts straight. Re-defining terms to accomodate sloppy usage is part of why we lose. “I’ve tried to keep some sympathy in my heart for the Boomers but they don’t reciprocate.” This forum is obviously filled with boomers who reciprocate. At some point we need to get off the internet and gather our numbers in meatspace. The quintet of novels about the Northwest Front by the late Harold Covington ( a boomer btw ) offer a compelling blueprint for doing this. This intergenerational vitriol among… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  Lars Emilsson
1 year ago

Agree with the meatspace part – would love to see our version of the free-state movement libertarians pushed for New Hampshire back in the day. I assume everyone can figure out NABALT without making an explicit disclaimer every time I get rhetorical or outright hyperbolic. Hair-splitting definitions to show how punctilious we are with our analysis impresses Objectivists and other spergs but it’s more a liability than an asset in a mass political movement. The guys who openly embrace ridiculous double-standards and smear opponents with sloppy definitions are the ones who’ve been winning since the Second Founding.

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Lars Emilsson
1 year ago

Disagree with the meatspace part. The internet is where we are strongest. Meatspace is enemy territory – we should not break cover until we’re ready to take over.

Fabian_Forge
Member
Reply to  Lars Emilsson
1 year ago

Yes Ayers is late Silent Generation, not Boomer. But that’s not interesting. Whenever Bill Ayers comes up I feel compelled to remind people that his father was CEO of Commonwealth Edison. That explains his life so much better than any generational analysis.

Bob Smith
Bob Smith
Member
1 year ago

Right you are.

MMurcek
Member
1 year ago

I’m not nearly the only person who doesn’t pay for a print newspaper or cable TV. By a long shot. The dancers and prevaricators (cucks, if you will) have an ever dwindling audience.

Max
Member
1 year ago

So much of what happens in the future depends on whether the Left can keep the indoctrination machine going. How successful will internet censorship be? Can they keep control of the education system? Will HR departments continue to dictate corporate policy and values?

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  Max
1 year ago

The left is in very good shape, better all the time. The sense that they will achieve their dreams blinds them to what is actually going to happen when they do. Or, like the Praying Mantis it’s more important for the fellow to get laid than it is to not be eaten after the act.

Range Front Fault
Range Front Fault
Reply to  james wilson
1 year ago

Woof! Way visual!

ChrisZ
ChrisZ
1 year ago

Zman, you’ve quietly suggested an interesting sci-fi plot in this statement: “Bringing blacks and angry Jewish feminists together into a coalition is near impossible.” What if they WERE brought together, in a secret breeding colony? For a generation we don’t hear a peep out of them, and we think we’re safe. But then their unholy offspring hatch (like that scene in the Orc hatchery in Lord of the Rings) and are unleashed upon society, with dystopian results for everyone else. But–would the hybrids combine the most destructive assets of the parental ethnicities: a Marshawn Lynch with the brain of an… Read more »

Frip
Member
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

“A Marshawn Lynch with the brain of an Alan Dershowitz” LOL. Scary! That’s a line and image never to forget. I’m gonna have nightmares tonight!!!

BadThinker
BadThinker
Reply to  ChrisZ
1 year ago

Jussie is far likelier. A white and black produced the joke that was Barry O, didn’t they?

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
1 year ago

There’s a standard-issue Boomer of my acquaintance Last night we had dinner and with him and his wife, whom we know from church. Both are very conservative. The early talk was about how Trump has betrayed us on the border, that it’s worse now, far worse, than it ever was under Obama. Anyway, later the guy asked me about my library. We wanted to know what kind of books I like to read. I said my standard line: I’m interested in the history, culture, art, literature, philosophy and science of Europe. He said, “Why Europe?” He was truly perplexed. Why… Read more »

Exile
Exile
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 year ago

“Way religious” is the key. Modern “Judeo-Christians” are the second-most converged group on the Right, right behind the military (with lots of overlap, of course). Charlemagne’s Christianity didn’t render him ethnically blind, deaf and dumb. We have to either rework Christianity to de-emphasize the universalism and egalitarianism or we have to find a new faith.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 year ago

That’s the kind of interaction all of us need to have. Not loudly hitting your educated friend over the head, but simply a confident statement about taking an interest in our own people, our own race. To Make Support for our White Race Normal Again.

Mark auld
Mark auld
Reply to  The Right Doctor
1 year ago

That does sum it up, and rather well. It’s hard to imagine we are products of the same civilisation.

Johnny55
Johnny55
1 year ago

Way to work through the holiday weekend Zman! If he fails at all else, Trump has been THE KEY to two events: 1) ripping the masks off most of the cucks and traitors in our midst (see Joe Walsh); and 2) launching a frontal assault on the media and waking normies up to the concept of fake news. These have been indispensable to the cause.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Johnny55
1 year ago

Trump also brought the immigration issue to the main stage during the campaign. Too bad lately he’s kicked it into the background.

Felix_Krull
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
1 year ago

Immigration is a cornerstone deep state issue, as hard to change policy on as foreign affairs or energy policy. Remember, when first Trump started his campaign, nobody in their right minds believe he’d end up at Pennsylvania Avenue, not even Trump himself, so he could promise us the Moon. If Trump is the real deal and not a globalist plant, he really is up against the ENTIRE WORLD – or at least, anyone in the world who matters. A lot of the MSM/political party breakdown attributed to Trump no doubt is due to the internet itself and would’ve happened sooner… Read more »

CAPT S
CAPT S
1 year ago

The USA is the North American version of Yugoslavia, with perhaps a slightly lower IQ. Obviously a different history but most Americans haven’t confronted this reality: the experimental combination of melting pot ideology and unrestricted voting rights is an abject failure. No matter the generation, the sooner the realist youngsters lash up with the realist oldsters and start to build political coalitions based on a grasp of “who we were” vs “who we are today” … the sooner we can have conversations that deal with reality vice political theory, and only then (maybe) the “echo/cuck” shaft can be turned beyond… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  CAPT S
1 year ago

It will go downhill slowly until it goes downhill very quickly. Social disintegration will also occur very rapidly because of a systemic lack of robustness in the large urban populations. When your affluence has addicted you to $5 coffee, real starvation induces instant insanity (e.g. whining rage fits). LEOs will evaporate early and violent gangs will run amok. Then comes martial law and the bloom is off the rose. What happens next is an excellent topic for future planning.

Johnny55
Johnny55
1 year ago

BTW, has anyone studied the true implications of the 5G project?? Holy shit, the Bentham and panopticon folks were pikers compared to this. Aside from intentionally unplugging and moving off the grid, not sure what else is out there. In the old days, when people were starving, or oppressed forever, revolts happened. But just when did a revolt happen when almost all bellies were full and the circuses continued 24/7?? Even the Romans couldn’t distract their people with 1000 different options available all the time. Only two issues I see is diversity + guns, barring something completely unforeseen.

Mark auld
Mark auld
Reply to  Johnny55
1 year ago

A grand solar minimum and and a financial collapse might just fix it.

TomA
TomA
1 year ago

Yes to all of this! So let’s stop wasting time with the canard that we are going to talk our way out of this mess. We’re headed for the ditch, and we can either get there quick (and then begin rebuilding quickly) or we can tap the brakes marginally and decelerate a smidge before launching through the ditch and over the cliff. Addiction to a comfortable life is preventing everyone from recognizing reality as reality. In movies and video games, our society is inculcating a do-over mentality and that fantasy will comfort you right up until the midnight knock on… Read more »

Carl B.
Carl B.
1 year ago

I’m a ’49 model Boomer with skills, experience, and a small arsenal. I’ve seen the generations coming after we Boomers and I just say: “You gotta be shittin’ me.”

Good luck, y’all….

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

As to this generational thing. Have you ever noticed that the ‘personality’ or ‘default imagery’ attached to decades – the twenties, the thirties, the forties, the fifties, the sixties, the seventies, and the eighties – breaks down with the nineties, and vanishes altogether since? Each of those decades automatically evokes a stereotyped imagery and Pavlovian reaction so automatic and so powerful that they seem like real things, rather than broad or even ridiculous generalizations. I’ll call it the Time/Life era. Before 1920, popular media was in infancy. “Old weird America” hadn’t been dragooned by a national media. By the nineties,… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

Come to think of it, my best friend from college – and his mother – belong to the same benighted ‘boomer generation’. Mom was born in 1946 – she just makes the cut – and he was born in 1962. How cool is that?

Maus
Maus
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

Totally agree with your observation. I was born in 1961. Dad was 45 and Mom 34. No rock and roll in the house. Herb Alpert and the Tiajuana Brass was about as racy as it got. Lawrence Welk every Saturday and on Sunday, Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom with Marlin Perkins followed by the Disney movie. I have nothing in common with most of our generational cohort, but must suffer for its follies. Damned hippies and civil rights activists. Time for a new Bull Connor to bring on the dogs and firehoses.

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Maus
1 year ago

I wanted to mention ‘The Wild Kingdom’ but my comment had gone on too long as it was… I am glad that my parents were not hip, by the way. In high school I listened to Van Halen, AC/DC, Ted Nugent… but I also learned to appreciate the Ames Brothers, Andy Williams, Ella Fitzgerald, Eddie Arnold, etc., which others of my cohort never did. Thanks M & D!

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  Maus
1 year ago

That Herb Alpert album with the girl covered in cream would not have been permitted in my home. Mom liked the music but not the sleeve; dad – at a guess – would have enjoyed the sleeve but not the music. His idea of a great song was Ann Murray’s ‘Snowbird’, which he sang in the shower every morning until we all wanted to kill him – mom too.

I treasure those ancient days…

Al in Georgia
Al in Georgia
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

In August, 1970, I enlisted in the Navy. I was eating breakfast with my parents waiting to go meet the recruiter and go to the receiving station. The radio was on and the last song that I heard as a civilian was ‘Snowbird’.

Member
1 year ago

Deep down most of these people, from Nancy Pelosi to useless Mitch McConnell, recognize that the string has run out and the current “government” is just a placeholder until the fireworks start and it all collapses so they are simply squeezing as much out of the system as they can before it collapses.

Tank
Tank
1 year ago

1. Voting for Trump will not make us feel young and hip. Just a dopey throw away line.

2. Trump is President because boomers voted for Trump in greater numbers than other generations. Without the boomer vote, Clinton would be president. There is no reason to think things will improve when the boomers are gone.

Christopher S. Johns
Christopher S. Johns
1 year ago

Over Memorial Day weekend, I found myself in a rarely visited suburb of my shitlibopolis at a high-end shopping mall that I’ve not been in for at least a decade. I was shocked. The place was transformed. Three-fourths of the people there were recent Asian immigrants who had not been there the last time I was. It was good for the mall, as the Asians were buying things and boosting GDP. But it was bad for America, or at least a certain dying idea of America. As I looked around at the scene I was metaphysically certain that not one… Read more »

PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

I’m Z’s age Gen X. How was I supposed to compete with Boomers? I got out of engineering school, undergrad, working my arse off to enter industry against untalented Boomers with fifteen years experience over me because they had bottlenecked at their respective career junctures and were forced to remain downside blocking me. Thus in addition to working fulltime I went to grad school reading for a PhD in computer science and succeeded, temporarily overtaking the Boomers ahead. For a brief time I enjoyed life but this was interrupted by Boomer networking which trumped my demonstrated achievements towards promotion. And… Read more »

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

There you have it: You 1, the Evil Boomers 0.

PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
Reply to  Pimpkin\'s nephew
1 year ago

To eliminate any ambiguity, at present I direct both middle fingers at Boomers and shout out my loudest and incredibly sincere EFF YOU DOUCHEBAGS! I feel better already, but it will likely never be sufficient even when they’re finally planted at their “raisin farms.”

Pimpkin\'s nephew
Pimpkin\'s nephew
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

You need to see a shrink. You are full of darkness and rage. Strange, but we’re all just people – we’re born, we live, and we die; considerable difference of opinion exists as to the meaning of it all; it could well mean nothing whatsoever.

So what’s with the rage?

Lars Emilsson
Lars Emilsson
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

Are your mom and dad boomers?

Lorenzo
Lorenzo
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

So what’s the deal, are the boomers the new Jews to blame for your unhappiness and failures? I’m trying to keep up.

Maus
Maus
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

Gotta love a guy who humble brags that he’s an engineer, a Ph.D. and a patent lawyer with Big Law spurs who “triumphed beyond expectation” by poaching clients who has the gall to call an entire generation narcissists. What must he see in the mirror? Try to understand why a triumphant G. Julius Caesar was assassinated by the Boomer senators of his day and you might just deserve pity instead of scorn.

Carlton Ritz
Carlton Ritz
Member
Reply to  PatentanwaltKampfkorpsKommando
1 year ago

You could have just said “I am butthurt because I was outclassed”.

Monsieur le Baron
1 year ago

This isn’t totally related to cuckness, but I do think the Pelosis-in-bathrobes situation is a product of Boomer inability to recognize the aging process. We used to have cultural traditions mediating the process of aging gracefully. People understood that different ages affected your mindset. The Romans had their idea of seven year cycles. A boy became a man at the end of pubertas, age 21. The boomers were a generation that rushed to adulthood, and having arrived, decided to never leave. Now they’ve changed the AARP to just mean… AARP, with the official name for those 50+ being “grown ups”.… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
1 year ago

Well, we Boomer kids WERE brainwashed with what was deliberately and definitely a conspiracy, the greatest hoax and conspiracy of all time.