During election season, I always cringe when I see candidates visiting a factory in the Midwest or taking staged photos with “regular white people” so they can look like they are one of us. These shallow symbolic gestures are not a substitute for meaningful engagement with white voters. And candidates should know that we see right through these campaign stunts.
Candidates and their campaigns are comfortable talking at white people, but few want to talk to us. This limits our ability to influence their decisions and policies. And it’s a bad strategy at a time when white people, white men in particular, form the base of the Republican Party, are its most loyal voters and mobilize other people to go to the polls.
That is a very slightly reworked version of this piece, which was posted in the opinion section of the New York Times. Obviously, no mainstream publication would ever publish a column that makes the explicit case on behalf of white men, as that would be racist and racism is very bad. So bad, in fact, that the major newspapers publish explicitly anti-white columns and articles every day. In fact, they regularly publish hate hoaxes, as the number of actual “hate crimes” in America falls well below demand.
The funny thing is though, the major news sites regularly post the demands of increasingly narrow identity groups, without putting much thought into whether they are harming their own cause. For example, that NY Times column starts with the claim, “We set out to prove that black people are not a monolith”, but then goes on to present evidence that black people are pretty much a monolith. In fact, the first chart confirms everything dissidents say about black identity and culture in America.
Let’s assume for a second that the Progressive narrative has some validity and that white men control society with their white privilege and refuse to share. Presumably, the point of this endless proselytizing in favor of ending white male privilege is to convince white men to let everyone else into power. If that is the intent, then it would make sense to know something about white men, other than the angry fantasies cooked up by bitter university feminists. Perhaps a poll of white men would be useful?
Even if that is a bridge too far, just assuming white men are not stupid would be a good starting people. For example, the NY Times piece has the claim, “For every dollar white men earn, black women, for example, earn 65 cents, whereas white women earn 82 cents.” Every white man knows why this statistic is nonsense and he knows the implication is a lie. The writer of that piece is probably too dumb to grasp multivariate analysis, but most white men do understand it.
In fact, it is long past time for the people in charge to just assume white people in general, male and female, are wise to this whole game. The whole point of that NY Times piece is to demand more gibs for black activists. It’s right there in the last few paragraphs. The writer moans about the Democrats not spending more money on black voters than white voters. Most white people know the reality of race in America, even if no one is allowed to talk about it in public. We get it. We know.
While we’re on the topic of the gibs, here’s a suggestion for how the usual suspects can better engage with white people. Just put a number on it. We know you are working up to the reparations stuff. Whites know and are increasingly prepared to do it. The thing is, there has to be a number that puts an end to the blood libel. We’ll write the check, but you have to stop complaining about how good we made it for you. We also know you’ll never agree to that condition. It’s all about the blood libel. We know. We all know.
Another reason this will never happen is the people in charge need to believe the fantasy they have created to explain modern America. That’s something dissidents often fail to appreciate. They go down the rabbit hole of reductionism, assuming this stuff is part of a plot by the usual suspects. In reality, the people in charge have embraced anti-racism as a fundamental part of their identity. Opposing white people, but particularly white people like us, is what gets them out of bed in the morning.
You can be sure that after the team of NY Times interns, mostly Jewish and Asian women from Columbia and NYU, finished writing this essay for the alleged writer, the editorial staff hugged and cried, while it was read out loud. They really believe there are the new abolitionists fighting the evil white man. This ridiculous post and the hate hoaxes are not an evil plot to gaslight us. They are part of the endless revival meeting that is modern American Progressivism. These posts are sermons, not agit-prop.
Since the title of this post suggests white men have a list of suggestions for politicians, we may as well finish with some ideas. The most obvious suggestion is the office holders start talking about white people. President Trump, the alleged white nationalist, tweets endlessly about everyone except white people. He will go on at length about the employment numbers for one-legged ginger Mexicans or how he has let thousands of black criminals out of prison. He has yet to mention white people in a tweet.
That will never happen, of course, but while we’re working on the fantasy list, how about the rest of you accept the fact that without white men, you’re back in the Stone Age. It sounds harsh, but the hard truth is, without white people, the NY Times editorial board is either back in the Levant begging Mohamed for mercy or back in their home country wondering if the hunt was successful. Black people would revert to the Neolithic if white men suddenly went away. A little gratitude would be nice.
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The plea to politicians about “what black people want” will go on forever, because no matter what you do for blacks, it’s never enough.
Just to confirm that this is a holy crusade for the other side. I recently – and with extreme reluctance – attended a gay wedding (two men whom I’ve known for more than a decade). (Yes, yes, I understand that I shouldn’t have gone, but that’s another discussion of the difficulty of exclusion with no one to back you up.) Anyway, during the oddly quasi-religious ceremony, the officiant included a call and response where she had the crowd promise to not only accept different people but to advocate politically and in their own lives on their behalf. In addition, her… Read more »
It goes to show you how our side sucks at messaging. Here we are, screaming about Jesus and Ned Flanders against gay marriage. Well guess what, the gayest time in the West, ancient Greece, had no Jesus and even the gays had WIVES, why?? B/c marriage is about producing CHILDREN and has been since the dawn of time. We need our own special people to figure out messaging ffs.
I’ve always ageed with normie-Con John Leo that we lost the debate over gay marriage when we failed to recognize it’s about kids, not “love.” If you want to shack up with your gf and live the DINK lifestyle, you don’t need marriage. Ask Lee Marvin (or Clint Eastwood, who had better lawyers). Kennedy’s whole opinion in the Uberghey case was based on love vs. hate. Arguing against love has a poor track record, even more so in hypergamous societies like the modern West.
We lost the debate over gay marriage over a hundred years ago when we listened to women ask for an easy exit from marriage and a voice in politics. Now, women ask for 70% of divorces and “fight” for gay marriage, while we stand around looking neutral.
We didn’t loose the debate. 29 states passed a ban on gay marriage. The Kritarchy tossed all of that into the garbage. Kangaroo Court rulings aren’t debates.
All that said, you still shouldn’t have attended.
Pick you battles.
Of course the men were neutral. We haven’t tribed up to stomp this stuff out (yet). The NWLs are the most racial/gender/gay sensitive people on the planet, and judge the rest of us every minute of every day on how we map out on our attitudes and physical attributes. They will light up when they interact with a POC at the local grocery store. Which must be a bit awkward for that other person. Otherwise it is all a hypothetical thing for them, until the black family moves in next door and the kids act their age. Then things start… Read more »
Most NWLs are, in fact, nice white ladies, albeit judgemental. They want to follow the rules and get and “A.” The problem is that the “rules” are being created by the media, big tech and academia, which fucking hate white men. NWLs are just doing what middle and upper-middle class white women have always done: Follow and enforce societal norms. Asking them to go against those norms is like asking a fish to run 100 meters. It’s not in their DNA. It’s up to white men to create communities with their own norms. White women will follow. It’s why for… Read more »
Do not underestimate the number of White People that will wake up….if the POS keeps beating us over the head with reparations. The more it’s in the media, the more it is pushed and moves toward reality, the more Normies wake up, including back here in Be Nice No Judgment Southern Utah Mormon land. Already heard it questioned from an LDS old gal whose head is normally buried up to her…..
I commend your deft spywork.
Gay “marriages” are a dress-up party, Queens For A Day.
I wonder how many men in that crowd were thinking the same things as you were?
PS- and when Zman said, “on behalf of white men, as that would be racist and racism is very bad” with such a perfectly straight face, I laughed out loud.
Nice way to start the day!
I did feel a bit like a spy, but I’ve begun to feel that way most of the time these days. But a gay wedding is like getting inside the other side’s HQ.
Again, what I found was unimpressive. These people are utterly reliant on the system to enforce their power. Democracy is a serious problem for us. We’re outnumbered and their vote counts as much as ours.
Citizen, did you watch the groom kiss the bride? How long did you watch?
From the comments: @Art I was a participant in this survey and the study pretty much reflects many of my opinions as a 3rd generation college educated Black American. My daughter became the 4th generation to complete college at one of the seven Sisters. Our legacy continues to actively engage in voter registration for local, state, county, and federal races every year through churches, Black fraternities and sororities, and alumni groups. Kindly note these conclusions reflect the survey findings, not the authors as you incorrectly assert. We know that our ancestors died for the right to vote Art. The daughter… Read more »
“Black people would revert to the Neolithic if white men suddenly went away.” Even black people know this, in some form. I have heard it personally. They are well aware that whites keep things from going down the poop chute. (For example there’s a black comedian, I forget his name, who did a joke about seeing one black pilot and one white pilot and “feeling better”.) And resentment of course follows.
I humbly suggest “AAWAL”, African American Women Air Lines. Staffed exclusively by African American women as pilots, mechanics, flight attendants, and check-in people. 82 cents on the dollar for white women buying tickets. 65 cents on the dollar for POC buying tickets. The pre-flight safety routine and the food just might be awesome, if you are into that sort of thing.
“Hey guys, this be yo’ cap’n speakin’ from up here in this little room at the front end. We be waitin’ here on de taxiway fo’ a bunch of other planes to take off ‘head of us, those white pilots always get to go first. We knows yo’ antsy to plug in and listen, and we got 17 channels o’ hip-hop and rap for yo’ ass on the in-fight, I mean in-flight entertainment, but The Man’s FAA say yo’ got to watch the safety video befo’ we haul ass outta here. So shut the fuck up fo’ a minute and… Read more »
The old AmRen piece from the teacher in a minority school down South (Tennessee?) said it best. Teacher asked students “What happens if we get rid of the White people?” Black student responded “we screwed!”
They know it, but they can’t stop themselves from trying anyway.
Zimbabwe.
They’ve never left the Neolithic.
An old (5 yrs) Amren article about a fresh young coed who got her 1st teaching job in Atlanta.
Long but worth it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190116224503/https://www.amren.com/features/2014/09/all-i-really-need-to-know-about-race-i-learned-teaching-in-kindergarten/
Yves Vannes, that was interesting! Reminds me of two illuminating pieces, if I may… A Nigerian’s View of Race by Okonkwo Akachukwu https://www.amren.com/features/2018/12/a-nigerians-view-of-race/ “There is something unusual about the psychological makeup of white people. It can be metaphorically described as an inner compass. Due to that inner compass, white people need very little external force or punishment. They do not need much policing, so people can apply their potential to useful activities rather than wasting time donning a uniform and swinging a night-stick. “The absence of this inner compass is why, in Nigeria, no number of police officers can enforce… Read more »
Thank you, Ursula. Simon Winchester wrote of a similar experience as a young doctor in Africa.
Daunting. And reality for them..When there comes here, here becomes there.
Range Front Fault,
Amen, we white people need to remind ourselves that not all peoples share our mindset, born from European Christian tradition, and to learn to better protect our people. By the way, thank you for your kind words a short while back, you made me blush with your generosity of spirit. I always enjoy your comments and I imagine you’re that exceptional kind of woman, loved by all who are blessed to know you. Glad you’re out there, sister.
Speaking of blushing! May I extend to you the same courtesy. Feel the same toward you, dear. Teach and inspire. Best to you and your successful business.
Glad you’re out there, sister…..squared!
Am reading your article to Husband this evening.
That’s it. My own extended family’s experience trying to run a construction related business in Mali (NW Africa). Everything has to be locked down and watched, 24/7. 20 foot high walls around anything stored overnight. Armed guards and lots of border guard payoff funds, carried by armed, trusted family members, for escorting materials off the ship, through the port (Dakar) and over land and borders. The government licenses, permits, and fees sucked up whatever was left. What a pointless exercise! And this was with a well connected family with high government protection (through extended familial relationships).
What an adventure! Thank goodness they survived the experience. I would love to visit Africa if it weren’t for the Africans.
Thanks. Great read. Have you seen Dust? It’s a film that was making the rounds through our movement some months ago. It’s about a Chinese contractor trying to get a simple project completed with African labor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1a-QpyF7rNc
Always loved this one, from NPR no less:
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/06/20/193587906/a-surprising-barrier-to-clean-water-human-nature
Africans literally think water disinfectants are white mans voodoo, and cannot understand the principles of water chlorination.
“For every dollar white men earn, black women earn 65 cents.”
And for every society White men found, 100 per cent of POCs want to move there, whereas only 0.65 per cent of POCs want to move to societies founded by black women.
Hahahahahaha. This is golden. It’s why the Hollywood vampires never pick Mexico to run to!!!
Wait . . . there is a society founded by black women? Would that be Wakanda?
The DMV.
“A Fish Named Wakanda”
Keep in mind that John Cleese is due to be unpersoned now. If you enjoyed “A Fish Called Wanda” or any of the “Monty Python” stuff, you had better stock up now (and not on your Netflix queue). All of it is about to vanish.
Liberia?
As always with pieces in the NYT and every mainstream news outlet, the unspoken assumption when talking about race is that there are no race differences. They’ll trot out graphs and statistics comparing achievement, income, wealth, crime, and opinions with other races, and the conclusion always points to problems that must be solved. And there’s always a grave and somber “so much work to do to eliminate discrimination” tone to it all. When you’re a race realist, you read the stats and it all makes sense and it is what it is.
The logical conclusion of the Narrative is for whites to be eliminated. Let me lay it out: 1. Racism causes all group differences 2. Group differences are evil (poverty and higher crime rates literally kill people) 3. Whites are the cause of racism 4. If whites don’t give up their racism (conscious and unconscious), differences (evil) will persist 5. Despite 50 years of innumerable programs and education, differences (evil) persist because whites refuse to give up their racism Conclusion: Because whites are unwilling or unable to give their racism, which leads to group differences (evil), whites must be eliminated either… Read more »
The men behind the curtain are not all powerful. They screw up regularly. See Stalin. I have long maintained that they were too damn good at what they do, and hence accelerated the process way too fast. That plus they lost total control of information flow behind the internet and the USA First Amendment, the last remaining blind goy foot soldiers for the armies of the Beast. I think they’re in quite the conundrum, frankly.
Assuming the five points above, a logical option would be, as you say, to avoid white people and their “racism.” Like a separate country we could carve out and all will good for blacks. No more evil racism inflicted upon them by Whitey. The response you’d get from blacks and the left though, would say it all. What they want is to latch onto Whitey for more gibs and grievances that will go on forever….
All the while decrying IQ, and preaching it’s only an amazing coincidence that it also just happens to correlate perfectly with success, wealth, and criminality…
They are not stopping there. Look at the battles being waged in medieval studies departments because the study of medieval Europe is too white. Where are all the black people? Obviously they just been whitewashed out because we all know they were there inventing everything that we use today. And the same is happening in pop culture. You can’t make a movie about eighteenth-century Europe without putting Asians and black people in it now. The very last Doctor Who I ever watched had the doctor and His companion in Victorian England and it was half black. The companion said I… Read more »
Hamilton is a great piece of cultural marxism. You have to admire the total control of the specials. Again, this explains my earlier comment and why you have to take the Stalin/Trump/Putin path, and not the Enoch/Spencer path.
I’m finally getting back to watching season 5 of “Endeavour”. I stopped a couple of years ago when it was on PBS because some Muslim family was being bothered and Mr. Bright, the Superintendent, was aghast. He said, as I remember, “But they’re Britsh!. They have British passports! I stopped right then and have just now began trying it again. I haven’t hit that episode yet but I’m hoping I can get through it. I’ve always enjoyed British mysteries but it’s gotten where there are no White couples. Couples are always mixed in some way. I don’t watch this stuff… Read more »
Henry….Also greatly enjoy Brit detective series. Am forewarned about Endeavour, thanks, am late to this, loved Morse and eating up the Inspector Lewis series, and have had to jettison one chapter due to Brit lefty multi culti crap. Push button…gone. The more recent the series, the worse the POZ gets. Pissed me off last night, so reverted back to 70’s Lord Peter Whimsey.
As long as the “Government” is allowed to keep white people in perpetual serfdom via the punitive income tax we will get more of the same. Legitimate purpose is one thing. Going beyond the scope of enumerated powers is another. It’s not just the Feds. Property tax is a good example. How else can we pay for the non whites to exist and thrive? The wind cries Mary.
And now you realize the PURPOSE of the system. The fundamental test of a system of government is whether it encourages its native population to grow and multiply. Hard evil = revolutionary France; Bolshevism, Cambodia. Soft evil = modern Europe and America, China, Japan, South Korea. Instead of the bayonet they use the culture and debt/inflation. Soft evil about to become hard evil = Weimar Germany.
Most people once they start working know there is a system. If they are smart enough they figure out its purpose sometime after that. Most of them are happy to be a cog in the wheel. It doesn’t take much to be a cog. They feel blessed to be part of the systems wheel even though they understand the reality of what it is. As long as the wheel keeps turning very few will do anything about it. Rationalization is King.
JMDGT, we pay Danegeld. It is payment at the threat of civil unrest and violence. And we are learning the same lesson, as the English and French did a thousand years ago—you can’t buy off a blackmailer.
Exactly. Far too many choose to acquiesce. Collaboration has a specific punishment if I remember correctly. Give them what they ask for and then give them some more. Capitulation as compromise is surrender.
Who is John Galt?
Ayn Rand has some good points, but honestly I never even finished the Fountainhead. She is an alien person with alien ideology and frankly a very dark view of everything. So many good folks of our people have been lost in the libertarian trap. Although some have stated it’s just a gateway to us, so I guess it’s ok.
Ayn Rand’s Objectivism takes everything to an intellectually ridiculous degree, but to understand libertarianism, you only have to grasp “thou shalt not steal.”
The problem with that view of libertarianism is they proclaim Thou shalt not steal, and then fail to give a coherent definition of what “theft” is. I mean, the basic problem with libertarianism is that it’s utterly retarded, but if you’re looking for a place to start….
>the basic problem with libertarianism is that it’s utterly retarded,
Pretty compelling. Do you have any more to say on the subject or do you consider that so persuasive that no more need be said?
Sunspot;
I’d say that a fundamental fault of Libertarianism is that it presumes itself entitled to Western Christianity’s social order without feeling itself obliged to even acknowledge Christ in any way at all, much less bend the knee.
The fundamental fault of libertarianism? Well, allow me to expound on a few and, please, bear in mind that I witnessed all this first-hand. They correctly and justifiably value all the characteristics of white society: order, property rights, public and private morality, conviviality, prosperity and scientific progress. However, they are also blank-slate absolutists. If some human beings are preoccupied with planning missions to Mars while other human beings have not got around to inventing the wheel, well, that’s because the latter group have been unfairly deprived of the benefits of property rights and fweeeee twaaaaade. The solution to this melancholy… Read more »
Well, libertarians tell us that their right to swing their fists should end only at the tips of our noses.
You *are* retarded if you want to live in that kind of world.
Not sure anyone posting has a complete idea of Libertarianism and it’s faults. I probably don’t as well, but I’ll try— at the risk of over simplification—to give you my thumbnail summation. Basically all interactions among consenting people are acceptable barring “force” or “fraud”. All people are rational enough to understand the above and live accordingly. All the rest is derivative commentary. It’s a fantasy world to be sure. My break away occurred years ago when the Cato Institute sent me yet another publication with an opinion piece supporting open borders. Having spent at that time several years patrolling the… Read more »
What Libertarians miss (or conveniently ignore) is that the only people intellectually and attitudinally (and yes genetically) equipped to possibly maintain a society without “force and fraud” is White people (maybe Asians). As long as they ignore the differences in intelligence, aggressiveness, cooperativeness, time preference, etc., between races, their theories will only end in chaos in practice. I’d be willing to do a 5-year trial of Libertarianism in an all-White ethnostate – it’s the only feasible working environment for a fair test, and then we could evaluate how well it really works. If we don’t like it, we can install… Read more »
Sextus, thanks for flushing out my remarks. An improvement to be sure.
Cato is a beltway institution more akin to the Koch Brothers, Consitutionalists, and PaleoCons than to the more prinicipled rank and file libertarians, like Lew Rockwell and his followers, who have explicity opposed open borders, primarily on the basis of the right to defend one’s family, property, and community and one’s right to associate with, or disassociate from, whomever one chooses freely and voluntarily. In the 2008 election I voted for Ron Paul, because his campaign positions would have at least allowed, if not materially enabled, White men to pursue their interests without being punished by the state. He was… Read more »
Bezos and Zuck have stolen the public square. Woke Capital in general has stolen our culture and steals the jobs of dissenters. Open borders steals the value of citizenship. Yet even paleo-libertarians support much if not all of this, and the present version of libertarianism ala Reason mag is totally gay for all of it.
Libertarians do steal…from the commons. Libertarianism is the ‘communism’ of the commons. The costs of the externalities are the simplest example of this. The Goose and the Common Authors unknown – 1700s The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from off the goose The law demands that we atone When we take things we do not own But leaves the lords and ladies fine Who take things that are yours and mine The poor and wretched don’t escape If they conspire… Read more »
Good one. Again, I refer folks to Z-man’s concept of monetizing social capital—and of course, selling it for your own profit.
But Sunspot, whiteness is…is…it’s a gateway!!
Ayn Rand could not live up to her own philosophy. She ended up having a long-term affair with Nicholas Brandon, he and his wife Barbara were leaders objectivist society and she chose Nicholas Brandon purely on his looks because he really wasn’t that much of an intellect. But her own husband Frank was a beta so she acted like a woman and chose the hot alpha because she was the alpha female and could do that
Read the Mises Institute piece of the cult on Objectivism from years back – I spent years around those folks but well outside the “inner circles,” never realized how Scientology-like Rand, Piekoff, Greenspan et al were. Personality cult is too mild a term.
Brandon was a cuck not an alpha. Easy mistake to make
Not unlike Dagny Taggart dumping Hank Reardon for John Galt. I never did get the symbolism and just concluded that she was a slut see the end of the day. Life imitates art, I suppose. Rand, like Libertarianism, simply have no solutions to real world problems. You can’t blame her for being traumatized by her time Soviet Russia, but a solution based on that experience doesn’t fit either.
Yawn. More ceaseless whining about “libertarians”. I tell you what – why don’t you go back and find me any sort of coherent arguments against all of this “black women only make 65% of what a white man makes” crap from say 10 or 15 years ago. Women have been whining this same line of outrage for as long as I can remember – probably at least a couple of decades now. I don’t recall ever seeing any objection to it coming out of the “right”. Where I do recall seeing quite a few good arguments – stating actual facts… Read more »
Women don’t get paid annually what men get paid because they won’t do Mike Rowe’s Dirty Jobs! I did for 15 years—Water Treatment then on to Water Distribution and Hydro Dam Operator. That meant, gasp, Graveyard shift…and turning a few valves in dirty places…and when the shiftie after you calls in sick, you’re stuck with 2 shifts….and more $moola. 99% of women won’t work nightshift and oncall. With all the feminists running around and endless feminist offgassing about unequal wages, I NEVER found unequal wages working for utilities ever. Women…DO THE HARD WORK AND YOU’LL GET PAID EQUALLY…AND MUCH HIGHER… Read more »
The 1 countem 1 Hispanic woman I worked with in Water Treatment COULD NOT PASS the state certification test, over and over, for entry level position, no matter how much tutoring she received or encouragement from management to reach diversity quotas. After endless management hand wringing, she finally was bumped back to a janitorial position.
“Hydro Dam Operator” sounds f***king awesome. How does one do that?
MWV…..thanks for asking. First base is to find a water company that has dams, ie, EastBayMUD and San Francisco Water Co., then wander into the admin bldg, find out who is manager of water ops and make an appointment to chat the manager up. Go to the horse’s mouth. You’ll get a world of valuable knowledge about how to and where, and not waste time spinning wheels. Plus if you make it as an employee in that water company, the mgr might remember you and your initiative. Started as a secretary EBMUD, said after a year to the boss..I’m bored..what… Read more »
I’m not going to do the look up, you can investigate via Google. There are several pretty definitive studies, which is why there is little new “research”. The summation is basically, that the original study(s) showing 63, 70, or 75% (whatever) gaps was looking at yearly salary regardless of job type—or hours worked. Correct for job type, hours worked, etc. and the discrepancies go away, or at least become negligible. But if you are a grievance monger with an angry audience, you just repeat the same lies over and over.
After a moments reflection, it does seem fairly shocking that a black woman makes two-thirds of what a white man makes.
With her insanely assertive, con-man level of self-belief, she’s good at peeling people away from the shitlib consensus. But then, when people realize the profound limitations of libertarianism, they start coming our way.
I think the key problem is time. It would be nice if people were reality-oriented from the start, instead of needing years to peel away Cathedral brainwashing. For me, from A(yn) to Z(man) took about 20 years.
That is the perfect title for the “Manifesto”: “From A(yn) to Z(man); My Journey to the Dissident Right” … or some such.
The only friends of mine (five in all) who were libertarians turned into raging liberals, except one, who joined the army. The only other libertarian I knew was an autistic a-hole.
My only theory (just a theory) as to why, is that Rand made them feel comfortable giving up their (traditional) Christianity, which left them defenseless against the Cathedral.
Humans are complicated and the world is not a simple place. Rand helps explain bits and pieces of it. Consume her work accordingly.
That’s how I approach it now. There are solid concepts amid the self-serving INTJ spergery. She pulls back the curtain on how intellectual elites have such a disproportionate influence, but she never put her theory of human nature to the test. When you get something that basic so wrong, your elaborate system is built on sand.
The idea of Objectivism is OK in my book. Many aspects of it appeal to me on certain levels. Same goes with a great many of the “isms” out there. I threaten to go Galt at least once a month. No single philosophy covers everything for me. If I have an identity at all it is that of the dissident right. It is all about me.
I’m John Galt and so is my wife
What do we actually want or need from our anti-white enemies?
Not a damned thing.
The truth is we’re better off without them, a lot better off. And when they are long gone we will rise to new and greater heights. For us diversity is a dead weight. It’s Harrison Bergeron on a civilizational scale.
They need us to keep them from sliding back into chaotic disorganization, poverty, rampant disease, high rates of infant mortality, primitivism, I could go on and on…
Personally, I don’t want their thanks(assuming they are even capable of uttering such a thing)I want them gone.
Exactly. The only thing we need is separation. Similar to Z’s arguments above, if we openly declare for separation, Big Other has to drop a mask to say “no, because you still owe us.”
As Sailer documents daily, Left-media is full of stories about how the mere sight of white men holds PoC’s and wahmen back (and White Beckys are going to get booted from the Ascendancy sooner than they think). So we agree to walk away, to stop inflicting our evil presence. Make them say “you can’t leave.” That’s a helluva red pill.
Tossing Beckys under the bus of POC progress can’t come soon enough. Nothing short of a greyhound full of Real Americans plowing thru Becky’s precious and awesome life will wake her from her curated somascape of yoga, instawhore, tinder rutting, and makework marketing ‘career’. Hell, she has gladly accepted all that has been stolen, extorted, and exacted from her white male counterparts her entire life. The tide of white male hate has lifted her fat ass to levels of safety, comfort, and conspicuous consumption that no other group of women in the world have had in all of history. Then… Read more »
“Black people would revert to the Neolithic if white men suddenly went away. A little gratitude would be nice.” Finally. Great piece Z-man and no beating around the bush. You’ve redeemed yourself. 😉 Reparations won’t work, AA won’t work, apologies won’t work, increased school funding won’t work, eliminating racism (YT) won’t work—nothing proposed so far will work—because the disease model is wrong. You can’t treat cancer with a four humors model of physical disease (ask George Washington in your next seance session how blood letting worked for him). The source of the problem is not environmental, it’s genetic. In a… Read more »
This is why my response to all the talk of reparations is:
You’ll get nothing – and like it.
Since it’s not going to work – the answer should be NO, and please fuck off.
That’s just as likely to get us to the point where they admit their real desire is for an endless stream of free shit from whitey as is giving them reparations as some sort of sop to the endless stream of whining.
Calsdad, you once again prove that making a good point need not be lengthy! 😉
Here’s a reparation I could go for: payment in exchange for work. There are plenty of ditches that need digging, roads that need fixing and cleaning, etc. Might actually do everyone some good. And if you don’t need the job, you obviously are well off enough that you don’t need the reparation.
The fact that anti-racism is a religion now makes reconciliation impossible. Buchanan’s “Republic” quotes a John Quincy Adams speech regarding Texas’ statehood where JQA used incendiary language that would make Antifa blush regarding the South, basically calling for “genocide b/c deus vult” decades before the Civil War. You don’t debate people out of their religion (ask Jon Haidt). The Government/Academic/Media complex, which has now converged Woke Capital, has steeped 50+ years worth of Americans in this shit-tier pseudo-religion. We need to figure out how best to separate like Czechs rather than Irishmen or worse yet, Rwandans.
Fast forward to the future, where whites are a small minority in a multi-ethnic state (I live in that future, California). Latinos and Asians can openly call black people niggers, or monkeys, and the blacks don’t like Asians or latinos, but good ol’ whitey is still their go-to, blamed for all their problems. Even when there are no more “blue-eyed devils” around, whitey will always exist in their lore as the evil who put them in chains. Pay no attention to the fact that their ancestors won the lottery by being put in those chains.
Without white people around to feed and protect them, the black population would soon drop to zero, and no Asians or Latinos would care enough to ask what happened to them.
In 1800 more than half of Argentina’s population was black slaves. By 1900 “black” was dropped as a census category because there were so few of them.
The one thing we will never get is gratitude. This would require some form of humble appreciation on their part. It’s never going to happen. Black Pride and Holo-ganda will make sure of that.
I was thinking this morning, why has no comedian done a bit about the differences between Africanized bees and European bees. I tell you Jerry, it’s pure comedy gold!! The parallels are endless and one is provided perfect cover whilst everyone at the comedy club would know what you are doing. I might have to write a bit myself on it and send it to Owen Benjamin. LOL
It’s not a comedy bit, but a very pointed “documentary” from Black Pilled:
https://youtu.be/l-ZUqOcT0M8
Thanks. Of course, there is absolutely no correlation to the human world. Hilarious.
“We know you are working up to the reparations stuff. Whites know and are increasingly prepared to do it.”
Er, no. The point of reparations is the point of all politics, to provide a pretext for loot and plunder. And there will never be an end to the blood libel until we say: No.
We already wrote the check. Now it’s time for the victims to “get a job.”
Reparations indicate an end to the problem. Payment made, payment received, problem solved. Blacks and their white handlers don’t want that, they want Tribute. A continuous payment of treasure to continually remind the payer he’s subhuman and evil to be passed on year to year, decade to decade, generation to generation in a never ending cock-sucking apology for something none of us participated in. That’s what these people want and nothing less will satisfy.
Demanding that gibs hustlers put a “full and final” number on gibs is an effective argument because it makes them admit their demands are infinite. Same with “how many of the 7 billion Americans we haven’t let in yet is enough?” As for Trump, he’s lost me on a number of issues (immigration, MIGA, anything John Bolton or Mike Pompeo says or does) but the Bush-style pandering to minorities by peddling the same U6-free fake employment numbers for which we justly castigated Obama really grinds my gears. This White man wants $1000, monthly. Since MAGA’ing our country back has proven… Read more »
I’m all in on UBI. Long term it’s a stupid idea, but I’ve about decided we don’t have long left. $2000 a month between me and my wife for the 18 months to 5 years (max) that a UBI scam would last will buy a lot of ammo, MREs, and maybe even the “Mad Max” style apocalypse dune buggy I’ve wanted since I was 12 in anticipation of the Burning Times to come.
Zman, again, points us ahead. Theirs is a game of high school breakup. The psycho chick loves to complain and push you to the brink of leaving…but you never leave. You tolerate it with a sigh.
We are too accommodating. In this soft tyranny we continue to allow them to operate out of, when do they impose too much? Spicy responses surely come after some catalyst?
I’m optimistic. So let’s set a course and start navigating to the future.
Ain’t happening Z. No white pol is ever going to stick up for us. it’s tantmount to a death sentence. If a white pol did stand up and take our voices seriously. He would be Tommy Robinson’ed. His life would be make sheer hell, he would find his bank accounts closed and the MSM doing a news black out on him. He would need armed bodyguards 7×24.
That;s the reality of a white pol sticking up for us.
“A little gratitude would be nice.”
LOL, I believe that this is what professional comedians would call a “punchline.”
Saying this right to a shitlib’s or POC’s face would probably be as triggering to them as “it’s OK to be white.”
Why, I believe I’ve found a bit of that gratitude right here:
https://gab.com/JustNews/posts/VDhtVFpiQy9qdDhjMmFuR0NoVnBZQT09
Re: “For every dollar white men earn, black women, for example, earn 65 cents, whereas white women earn 82 cents.” Yeah ok – MIGHT be true ( I don’t think it is). But whenever somebody brings that up in my presence I just respond with: ” yes… but – they make it up on the backend by raiding my wallet thru taxation and gimmeedats , so I tell you what – lets remove all of the black woman and white woman privilege out of the government’s wealth redistribution industry and then maybe we can talk about who’s earning what thru… Read more »
If you normalize for job type (women choose softer, easier careers) and years of experience (childbirth effect), the gap between white men and women disappears. As to the gap with black women, well, you know.
And you need to understand that no, white men DONT want any of that; and will happily fall over themselves to appease angry wymins and vibrants to show how virtuous they are. (Just as long as they don’t get inconvenienced by it or have to pay the social consequences themselves). I came from a family like that. I don’t like it either… but there’s a lot of white people who don’t and won’t get the message until the genocide starts.
Even then many will bullshit themselves that it’s only happening to bad whites. That’s just how CivNats like Sailer roll. They actually think it’s funny when the Lefty writers at the NYT openly state they want whites dead and gone. They have no concept that these people are dead serious.
And oh Breitbart and you find it a CivNat watering hole stuck in 1980.
Z asks what whites want and his answer, which he acknowledges is fantasy, is whites pay reparations for an end to the blood libel.
Jared Taylor’s answer is similar but more detailed. T wants free association, including racial covenants, and an end to race-based laws, like affirmative action. In effect, T wants our system transformed by racial awareness. The appeal is that whites get what they want with minimal change to our system.
What is more likely, that non-whites and liberal whites accept Z/Taylor’s plan or that whites enforce ethnostates? Often, I guess the latter is more possible.
Reparations are fantasy because it won’t “repair” the innate nature of the problem.
Dear White Men, We candidates don’t give a rat’s ass what white men want.
So much noise. The White man’s worst enemy is other White men.
WaPo piles on !
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/despite-trump-administration-denials-new-evidence-suggests-census-citizenship-question-was-crafted-to-benefit-white-republicans/2019/05/30/ca188dea-82eb-11e9-933d-7501070ee669_story.html
Ever notice how us white guys are very selective in our racism? For example, we’ve decided not to hold back Japanese-Americans, or East Indian immigrants who are darker skinned than most American blacks. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m late for my weekly white guy meeting where we plot how to hold back people of color.
Badwhites holding back black people did more for the solidarity and dignity of black families than goodwhites did in bringing them to dissolve in the in glare of equality.
They know what white men want, the powers just don’t want to allow any of it.
Don’t put a number on it. Fuck “reparation”. We won’t pay anything. We’ve already paid a LOT and none of it was deserved.
“…..how about the rest of you accept the fact that without white men, you’re back in the Stone Age…..”
I’ve been telling people a version of this for 20 years. That modern, comfy lifestyle you seem to enjoy so much? Brought to you exclusively by Whitey, Inc.
Two suggestions for wannabe white statesmen: 1) State your convictions clearly and forcefully, then never/ever apologize for them. 2) Define your terms in clear English, then redirect stupid questions with incisive/smart questions that draw attention to the babbling class’ bigotry and abject stupidity.
Not to turn these suggestions into a call for messiahship, but wannabe statesmen may want to read the Bible’s narrative on Jesus’ interactions w/ the Pharisees. He followed the above two rules and it didn’t end well (at least not in an earthly sense.)
“… the people in charge have embraced anti-racism …”
Surely your tongue is embedded far into your cheek?!?
How can they embrace an “anti-racist identity” without being a racist or a bigot?
Let’s assume for a moment that “reparations” are some sort of necessary idea that must be implemented. I think it’s retarded AF, but let’s give it the benefit of legitimacy for a moment and really examine it. We all know that just writing a check, or even a series of checks to black people would accomplish nothing useful. There might be a temporary gloating satisfaction of FU, YT for blacks, but that would fade, all the money would find its way into the pockets of Jews within the week, and nothing serious would be achieved. Putting a cash dollar amount… Read more »
Even for the subpopulation of the maladapted, which I have a lot of sympathy for, if they waited until marriage to have kids and stayed married, they would live above the poverty level. Even if they don’t, they are still much better off than had slavery never existed.
But see, that’s exactly what “maladapted” is — because they are maladapted, it doesn’t even occur to them to get married and stay married, etc. Even if it does occur to them, it doesn’t necessarily strike them as a good thing. These are the norms of the complex society, which are either a) still totally foreign to them, b) viewed with a species of contempt and resentment, c) completely misunderstood, or d) massively dis incentivized by the Great Society, the welfare state, and the perversions of hip-hop culture. Probably all of the above.
Or most likely are short changed by their genetic heritage for successful life in a 1st world society. And that, your scheme will never fix. Hell, we’ve been trying for going on 3 generations and it’s gotten us nowhere—and arguably a lot worse off.
What the heck has affirmative action been, if not reparations? Nearly 60 years of affirmative action. Not enough. Now dey need benjamins, hella lotta benjamins.
The logical conclusion to your characterization would be black homeland governed by paternalistic whites and managed by blacks who have made steps to the transition you’ve described. A less desirable, but possibly feasible alternative would be racial segregation and fenced-off portions of the economy in which blacks could work and prosper to the extent of their abilities.
Yes, those are both excellent suggestions within this point of view. The maladapted segment of the black population needs to live in a protected enclave where all visible authority is noticeably in the hands of sane, authoritative black people. It would probably, as you say, need to be invisibly co-governed from outside by Whites, to keep it from turning into Haiti, but all visible, direct-interface authority should be held by blacks. Or for instance as you suggest, giving blacks a permanent full-on monopoly over say the Post Office would do a world of good. It’s not an impossibly incomprehensible technical… Read more »
The maladaptive segment of the Black society is 85% (those on the left side of the curve). That’s not an insignificant segment. We’ve run out of government jobs for those people. Hell, we have the same problem with Whites.
Apples to oranges my guy. Anyways, you’re overthinking this stuff.
We give ’em their money, along with mandatory repatriation in an African nation and a lifetime ban from the United States. Everybody is better off, the USPS isn’t crippled, and we can occupy ourselves with more productive things than trying to civilize primitives.
We could make similar offers to any other Grievance-Americans that want to put an ocean between themselves and evil structural racism.
The reason we even had problems with the Irish is that they were the dregs of Irish society often as not and that many were Catholic living in a Protestant society The problems had zero to do with the DNA mix of Nordic and Celt both of which were and are high cultures and capable of high IQ’s and behavioral restraints Ireland itself despite being historically treated as badly as Africa in many ways was still when run by the Irish more than acceptable through its entire history. Right now Ireland still overwhelmingly Irish is a full first tier nation… Read more »
“. A less desirable, but possibly feasible alternative would be racial segregation”
Less desirable to whom?
Not me.
Yes, the black marketplace would offer drugs, whores and stolen guns, jewelry, electronics.
Some huge proportion of the people in this country say they cannot immediately come up with $400 for an emergency. Here’s a test. Give each of them $400. Or $4,000. Then, 3 months later, find out how many of them can come up with $400 for an emergency. My guess? Something only very slightly north of 0%. Which tells you all you need to know about a whole lot of things.
That whole $400 thing is one of the reasons why I’m so opposed to any sort of government run welfare. The left likes to portray the “poor” as people who simply can’t make enough money to eat, or who have been taken advantage of by the “rich”. The reality I have seen – thru personal observation of acquaintances and people’s whose story I know the intimate background details of…. is that the “poor” are often that way thru their own behavior. ” I don’t have enough money to eat”. – Yes, but – you had enough money to eat out… Read more »
“Poor morals, bad behavior, and general inability to properly run one’s life are not legitimate reasons for a massive government run welfare state.”
Yep, but that these folk vote is! Amazing that a person who can not control their own destiny (life) is empowered with the same authority to control a society’s.
Preach on, Brother! Coming from the left, this particular aspect of human nature was very hard to wake up to and grasp. For years I stayed in the chick camp of You’re Heartless..Heartless. The I grew up, learned to manage money, goal setting and delayed gratification. Then it happened in my own family, the couple who over pay on rental house, refuse to face reality and move to cheaper digs, are behind on you name the payment. There’s no learning, both of them smoke and pay California prices for cigs ($500-$800/month). There’s the $400/emergency fund right there. Gave them the… Read more »
I don’t want to see anyone destitute, even if their own behavior has contributed to it. But the welfare state encourages dysfunctional behavior by trying to eliminate any connection between actions and their consequences. People shouldn’t pay with their lives for their mistakes, but they should damn well be made to understand that wrong choices will have bad outcomes and beyond a minimal point nobody is going to rescue them.
Almost everybody has some ability to learn from experience. It is not compassionate to deny them that opportunity.
Bullshit. People SHOULD pay with their lives for mistakes THEY make. If for no other reason – than so they serve as example to others. That whole ” I don’t want to see people destitute and I don’t think people should pay for their mistakes” mentality – is THE tap root of why we have ended up where we are as a society and why our culture is being destroyed and our countries overrun by the third world. Congratulations: You’re another person who’s part of the problem and not part of the solution. And I repeat (incessantly it seems) –… Read more »
Afraid I agree with your hard line. Was very hard for my train to arrive at this station. I won’t give my family members any money…..once did and the birds with the broken wings still did not fly. If they lose the house and end up in the gutter, they’ll have to think their way out. How else does one grow up. Still lots of options for them. Decision making after the horse has left the barn is fruitless on their part, and the options drop considerably.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.
That’s the same argument that guys like Kevin Williamson, Ben Shapiro & Brett Stephens have been using to shill for their wage-depressing open borders paymasters for years. As Z pointed out in the “right wing economics” podcast around the holidays, this kind of “those towns deserve to die” argument makes it easy to depict us as monsters. Factually it sweeps too many decent folks under the “welfare queen” rug and morally it’s just wrong. I’d support Scandi welfare for my own tribe. My issue is with supporting other tribes, particularly those who have no inclination to reciprocate.
It’s also morally wrong to steal from people – and then give it away as some sort of virtue signalling exercise . Most especially when you “give” the stolen loot to people who are perfectly capable of supporting themselves , but choose to game the morally cucked and their pathological need to make all the world “fair”. “I’d support Scandi welfare for my own tribe”. Thanks for admitting you’re part of the problem. Last time I checked the Scandis couldn’t contain themselves and are now actively importing tribesmen to give shit away to. That’s the problem with “welfare” – it… Read more »
The Scandis were doing fine until the EU and Mutti Merkel poisoned their well. Z’s covered this in a number of past posts and podcasts, including the aforementioned “right wing economics.” The Conservo-Libertarians in the US rubbish the success of Scandinavian welfare with talking points (we were paying for their defense, they lied about metrics, etc) but the reality is that the Scandis had high standards of living, tech, innovation (e.g. Nokia), etc. with a much larger welfare state than we currently have well into the 90’s before immigration started breaking them down. Reasonable welfare systems work in White homogenous… Read more »
The Swedes poisoned their own well. I tend to believe there’s something in their makeup (since biological reality is something that gets brought up here a lot) – based on the behavior of the many lefties of Scandi descent who populate some of the more left-loonie areas of the Midwest. I can leave economics completely out of it since it seems like far too many people in the comment section here don’t like it. Let’s talk about drunken bears. My father is a railfan. One of the stories he likes to tell is about how a grain train out somewhere… Read more »
The same people that filled our schools and media with right-think for Americans did the same to the Swedes and most of Europe. It’s the western anti-white poz disease that has been pounded into our heads since WW2. That’s why the eastern European countries who left communism more recently than western Europe were protected from these sick teachings and therefore we can see how they still care to protect their people and culture; they’re less brainwashed. Of course, the EU is on their asses to open their borders to savages and destroy their own people and cultures. Wish Trump would… Read more »
* sorry, obviously western Europe never left communism. I meant to say that eastern Europeans were free from our sick brainwashing because they were protected from being exposed to it while living in controlled communist societies.
“Which tells you all you need to know about a whole lot of things.”
Dutch, but not all things. A good grounding in HBD science will tell you more.
Compsci, I figure that HBD hardwiring might be one of the things that explains this. In my experience, the “nature-nurture” argument usually lands in the middle, though usually biased a bit to one side of the other, in particular cases. Each side reinforcing the other, in this case, no matter where an individual case lands on the “$400” example.
There is no middle, Dutch. It hardly matters if nature is 50% or 1%, nurture is still downstream of nature and all possibilities are created or constrained by nature. The poorer one’s nature is the more nurture he will require and the less likely he is to get it since his condition is often passed down from those raising him. According to Ed Dutton and others, regular execution for several centuries of 2% of troublesome young European males per generation improved the nature of Europeans considerably. Others, lacking that process, clearly lag behind. An eighth century European might seem very… Read more »
James, I think we are talking past each other here. If a person is hardwired to spend on impulse and have a short preference horizon, he is likely to grow up responding to the part of our environment that encourages such things. Nature and nurture together. If you are a saver with a longer term preference horizon, and it is wired into you (HBD and all), you will respond to the elements of the environment that encourage saving. Some environments are all one or the other (there is damn little in Malian culture that shows any time horizon preference more… Read more »
The idea that nature/nurture is 50/50 is an idiotic trope that can only emanate from a radical egalitarian society.
Try applying that idea to dog breeds and you would sound absolutely ridiculous.
Feedback loop between nature/nurture is worth exploring though.
A lot this has to do with broader economy and the cost of housing which is driven by investors as rentiers , foreign ownership of land mainly Chinese carpetbaggers here in California and mass immigration Wages in many areas are also rather low for what things actually cost and the jobs that exist are often low wage. As a society we’ve arbitraged wages down by up to half measured as percentage GDP and cast many people into working or poor classes that would have back in the 70’s been middle and they’ve developed the short term thinking and bad habits… Read more »
Here’s a broader measure. In 2014, in the Los Angeles area, the median value of liquid assets (not total assets) for white households in 2014 was $110,000, compared to $200 for US-born blacks, and $0 for Mexican households. Low income white households had far more liquid assets than middle income blacks. It’s very much like the candy bar experiment with four year old kids that test for delay of gratification.
Postcard, reparations can not work because they do not address the cause of the problem of SES differences among the races. If there were a magical way to transfer wealth among all residents in the US such that we all received an “equal” share, in a generation—or less—we’d have the same racial disparity. Postcard, forget about a part 2 posting, you’re working with the wrong model of the disease.
buy apple and nike stock. you’d have it back in year.
If you are one of the people who does you can always either stop or slow down. If you are one of the people who doesn’t (or can’t) now you have a problem.