Corruption Of The Soul

One way to measure the health of a society is to look at how the ruling elite of that society protects the things that are important to the society. Just as the management of a company cannot micromanage every aspect of the firm, the ruling class cannot make sure every rule and custom is strictly enforced. It has to focus its energy on the big items that make the society possible. From there this attitude will flow down to the lower levels who will enforce the smaller rules.

What the ruling elite of a society does by enforcing the big rules, especially those that manage the affairs of the ruling class, is set the tone. A disciplined ruling class reinforces the idea that the rules matter, and they must be respected. This attitude becomes a habit of mind for the people. On the other hand, a ruling class that has no respect for its own rules helps foster a culture of cheating. If it is okay for the bosses to cheat, then only a sucker follows the rules.

The easy example of this is the Roman Republic. When the families at the top of the social order strictly abided by the rules that governed patricians, the plebeians followed their lead in the minor things. The republican virtue that was necessary for their society was a habit of mind. Once the people at the top stopped enforcing their rules, the rest of the culture followed. Caesar was simply the logical end point of a process of decay that began long before he crossed the Rubicon.

In this age, things like the rule of law, the orderly transition of power and the respect for rational inquiry are the big items of society. Liberal democracies are supposed to be rule-based societies that seek to progress by advances in knowledge. That is done by allowing people to investigate the natural world looking for better solutions to the problems of life. These investigations are to follow a set of rules and ethics that reflect the general morality. Progress is orderly and open.

Recent events make plain that the rule of law has broken down across all levels of American society. The rich always have advantages in the law, but now they operate under a different set of rules entirely. America is now ruled by a pirate class that is free to do what they like to the people. Similarly, the orderly transition of power through the mechanism of elections has become a farce. No one involved has any respect for the rules of democracy and no one can trust the results.

Those seem like things that could be fixed once the geezers at the top of the political system are replaced by a new class of people. There is no guarantee, and the odds are not great, but it seems to most people that there is some hope of fixing these problems through a renewal of the liberal democratic spirit. On the other hand, the respect for rational inquiry and debate appears to be hopelessly lost. We are rapidly reaching a point where dissent is explicitly forbidden in America.

That in itself could be lumped in with the other bits of the system that need reform, but the corruption has gone beyond suppression. It is becoming clear that the culture of mendacity that plagues the political class has become the norm within the realms of science and medicine. A culture of rule breaking at the top of society has fostered a culture of dishonestly within the academic community. Even in the hard sciences the willingness to cheat and lie has become quite common.

A good recent example is the Elizabeth Holmes trial. Everything about her career and the company she created was a fraud. This was plainly obvious to many, but they remained quiet as there is no reward for enforcing the rules. Breaking the rules can make you very rich, so lots of people break the rules. The fact that the state is struggling to put this woman in a cage speaks to the legal corruption. The fact that she exists speaks to the corruption in the academy.

She is not alone. The chief executive of biotech firm Athira Pharma was forced out of her position when she admitted to faking her research. When she was a graduate student, she falsified her findings in a number of studies. Those studies set her up for funding to start the company. They were also used to obtain patents. Despite the fact she is a fraud and her company a sham, she only had to resign, and the company will continue on as if nothing important happened.

The elephant in the room on this topic is Covid. The idea of science has been so corrupted that it is now warping the language. Because the vaccines do not actually work as promised, the language is being changed to fit the crime. It used to be that vaccines provided immunity from infection by a specific virus. Now immunity means a sense of happiness that comes from compliance. You may still die from Covid, or you could become immortal. Who can tell anymore?

Science and its practical application have been the gift from the gods that has allowed man to move beyond his primitive existence. In modern societies it is the thing that is supposed to provide the limits on excess and steadily improve daily life. It is fair to say that trust in scientific and technological progress is the bedrock of modernity. It is the thing that we all trust to keep society anchored to reality. It should be the thing the ruling class protects at all costs, but that is no longer true.

In a world where you cannot trust the important things, the little things become nothing but a matter of opinion or convenience. If the people at the top have no respect for the rule of law, then the people at the bottom will have no reason to follow the law other than fear of punishment. The culture will become one where evading the spirit of the rules is the natural habit of mind. This corruption of the soul of society will corrupt the soul of the people, as we are witnessing today.


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370H55V
370H55V
3 years ago

“Those seem like things that could be fixed once the geezers at the top of the political system are replaced by a new class of people.”

I think Roger Daltrey once said something about that quite some time ago.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
3 years ago

At least I didn’t have a Flock If Seagulls tune running through my demented brain while scrolling through doomporn, like yesterday. Godawful shite. They’re probably chewing on stewed kangaroo feet in an Aussie FEMA camp as we speak.

Pip McGuigin
Member
3 years ago

Late to the party but here ’tis. Co-19 did not kill Hank Aaron and probably didn’t kill thousands either. Mr. Aaron died two weeks after getting one of the ‘Vaccines” that are NOT vaccines. True vaccines lead to immunity. Period.These witches concoctions lead to possible death and wretched side effects in some unfortunate enough to trust Big Government, Big Pharma, Big Media and Big Medicine. Like the Z man said,” the hoi-polloi are interested in their happiness and they actually trust the aforementioned Bigs. Why did the Big Pharma honchos demand a no penalty clause ridding them from any responsibility… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Possible small bit of good news from DC:

Zero Hedge is reporting that Senator Manchin’s opposition has shut down the unrealized gains tax and the $600 IRS bank account snooping limit.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

More tiny signs of creeping collapse:

Traveling around the local surface streets, I’m noticing about half a dozen traffic lights out, which is something I’ve never seen before.

The instant messaging system at work has been down all day for unspecified network reasons. This is a site with several hundred people. Not sure if it carries over to the larger corporate network.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Today was the first time I went out shopping and came home with almost none of my list crossed out. I depend on a “special diet”—of totally normal-until-now things—that requires a minimally functioning civilization. Oh well. And today my wife announced on a Zoom call with all her superiors that she’s looking for a new job because not only does nothing technological work anymore but now no one above her in the hierarchy can even understand what she’s talking about. Three guesses how the org’s personnel have changed lately. You’re right! They’re Indians (the traumatically stinking kind, not the statistically… Read more »

Jeff
Jeff
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

Same thing at my job. IT is full of them and they are petrified of COVID. Our return to office policy is fully masked even at your desk while social distancing even for the fully vaccinated. I cannot even get them to answer my questions about natural immunity.

B125
B125
3 years ago

Seeing this in the corporate world too. Despite the bitching about Boomers, they were the last vestige of sanity and knowledge from a whiter, stabler world. They’re retiring in droves and there’s nobody to replace them. Alpha-ness has been totally driven from corporate Gen X males (it still exists in the trades and other fields). Strong white wimmin can’t actually do the job and are horrible at managing and understanding people, as technical things, project management, and instilling accountability (basically at everything). Other replacements include non-white males. They actually run things slightly better depending on the person. But the result… Read more »

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

“But yes, the Boomer generation is finally quitting…”

Yes. And while elsewhere they are chortling about ‘pillowing’ the Boomers, the next thing after that act may be regret as the pillower cannot figure out how to get the stuck automatic doors to open and die of starvation in the room of the dead Boomer.

On that note, ever notice when people come upon automatic doors that don’t just magically open for them? I may be the only person I have ever witnessed just shove them open manually.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

Gary Larson’s Midvale School for the Gifted cartoon comes to mind. As for the pillowing, the kids of boomers won’t have to do it because that job has already been outsourced. ¡Qué lástima! Pillowing is an Xer daydream. I’m lucky, my early boomer mom has elected to suffocate beneath a collapsed pile of her precious things, saving me a long flight and a midnight mypillow (only the best, most liberty inducing pillow for mom). The generational hate is unfortunate, but us xers bash because we still love. Just wait till the next gens are up to bat. Indifference stings more… Read more »

trackback
3 years ago

[…] ZMan takes a broad view. […]

Memebro
Memebro
3 years ago

“ . You may still die from Covid, or you could become immortal. Who can tell anymore?”

Holy shit that link. (https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/health/covid-vaccines-death-rates/index.html ) That’s hysterical!! Haha

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Memebro
3 years ago

Later in the article: “Part of this is probably because people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier than people who don’t the researchers noted.” Which renders the headline and entire article meaningless. Since the vaccine is irrelevant to the study, a truer headline would be, “People who are healthier live longer.”

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Memebro
3 years ago

Its just trying to front run the current upticking in all cause deaths from stuff like heart attacks, cancers and strokes for a younger age groups that people are starting to notice coincides with the vex rate, but is totally, totally, and I mean totally, in no way at all connected.

For it to be connected is so unpossible, it actually makes you healthier, so there, and now we have a super sciency source for the fact checkers to use to debunk the claims from the h8ters and science deniers using far right VAERS.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  trumpton
3 years ago

Until Caskets Are Us opens up at the mall, the shit for brains won’t realize they’re witnessing a genocide. Unfucking real.TV Lobotamy for the winner!

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Memebro
3 years ago

Lays® potato chips also make you healthier. Follow the science.

Black Knight
Black Knight
Reply to  Owlman
3 years ago

n just like the jab, you can’t ever only have one.

Joe Jach
Joe Jach
Reply to  Black Knight
3 years ago

No, it must be Fritos. A Mexican co-worker pointed out there’s only 3 ingredients in the originals. And, she said it’s one of the healthiest snacks you can eat. With an endorsement like that, I am going to continue my addiction to the bags of the Chili-Cheese, the obvious super-snack and Covid killer. Here’s to your health!

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago
Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Yes, yes, someone there call in their own bomb ‘threat’?

100% certainty?

This is serious!

JR Wirth
JR Wirth
3 years ago

And then there’s the “green energy” science which will give us, deservedly, the energy crisis of a lifetime. Pay no attention to energy density. Nothing to see here. Democracy makes everyone and everything a political football. Not even Mao could integrate his personae into daily plebe life the way democracy does. And in doing so, society has been transformed into a dead, dusty, debt laden wax museum. One that will eventually burn down. And when that happens…good riddance. Holmes was smart. Very smart. She fit the mold of modern woman precisely, down to the black turtlenecks and speaking as low… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  JR Wirth
3 years ago

Yes. Holmes should have done like Musk: find a product that already works and pretend you invented it.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Odd that whenever I read a comment similar to this I can’t help but think of Al Gore and the internet

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Stranger in a Strange Land
3 years ago

Yes, same game, except Gore didn’t sell internet and was a good deal more stupid than Musk.

Lefties never care about numbers (probably one of the reasons they’re lefties) but when you’re in a studio, winging it about geothermal power, you’re supposed to have a little voice of reason in your head that stops you from saying stuff like “two kilometers down, the crust is several millions degrees hot.”

If Mrs. Krull said something like that in public, I’d slap her.

Herzog
Herzog
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Felix (if I may),

as a German I have long wanted to thank you for the nod to Thomas Mann that your online persona represents: Mille grazie.

Oh, and let me add that I’m in awe as well as slightly envious of your perfect command of English.

Warmest greetings north!

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Wow! Thanks, Herzog, that’s a nice post to open my day with.

Godspeed to you and to Germany – may our friendship be long and our wars short.

Stephen Flemmi
Stephen Flemmi
3 years ago

“Those seem like things that could be fixed once the geezers at the top of the political system are replaced by a new class of people. There is no guarantee, and the odds are not great, but it seems to most people that there is some hope of fixing these problems through a renewal of the liberal democratic spirit. On the other hand, the respect for rational inquiry and debate appears to be hopelessly lost. We are rapidly reaching a point where dissent is explicitly forbidden in America.” Enjoyed this point immensely, given your topic of organizing last week. ZMAN,… Read more »

Some guy
Some guy
Reply to  Stephen Flemmi
3 years ago

Test. I have been unable to reply to this comment. Testy.

Some guy
Some guy
Reply to  Stephen Flemmi
3 years ago

I enjoy David C0le’s writing a lot but he is a pressure release valve.

He will criticize his people but also anyone who opposes them.

He will criticize demographic change but has often written of how much he likes and depends on the h1sp@nic underclass.

I like him but I wish that Jar3d had not invited him. It just generates more false hope in the “B@sed Ch0s3n.” At some point, we have to move beyond this false hope.

Stephen Flemmi
Stephen Flemmi
Reply to  Some guy
3 years ago

Thanks for the response. I would love to hear your response to this little gem I found from a while back. It seems Murray is trying to advocate what Z and a few others (my regards to Joseph Cotton) have now been saying.

https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-news-blog/74863619-comments-on-the-silencing-by-kirsten-powers-and-by-the-people-by-charles-murray?_pos=3&_sid=629a1b2c5&_ss=r

Karl Horst (Germany)
Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

As an outside observer of American politics, one could argue that following the 1886 Supreme Court case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Co., when corporations were granted the same legal protection as individuals, it’s been down hill for the average American citizen ever since. Can anyone argue against the fact that the longest existing Banana Republic in recent history, cleverly disguised as a first world country, proclaiming freedom and democracy to the world, yet openly abuses and censures it’s own citizens, has been the USA? No nation on earth can hold a candle to the levels of… Read more »

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

It’s true that Tater Joe is the archetypical example of a corrupt and treasonous US president who also suffers from severe dementia and is being actively blackmailed by Communist China due to the recorded sexual deviance of this offspring Hunter. Even more insane is that his campaign never had more than dozen acolyte partisans at any rally (whereas Trump was drawing tens of thousands), and yet “won” the election despite known and obvious vote rigging. Worse yet, none of this could have happened without the complicit aid of many powerful Republicans in Congress. But enough rant. The spring has wound… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Karl Horst (Germany)
3 years ago

Grass roots corruption (as opposed to top-down) in the US became entrenched with mass immigration. Literally nobody today of any political stripe believes that Tammany Hall or any of the various ethnic political machines in every big city since represent “good government” as envisioned in the founding documents. The Founders are irrelevant (at best).

Severian
3 years ago

Has anyone else noticed how Brahminical the ruling caste has become? I don’t just mean how much power South Asians have (hi, Kamala!). I mean the purity rituals. They’ve always been Puritanical, our overlords, but now they’re concerned with bodily pollution…. I know, I know, it seems weird, given how degenerate they are, but look at how insistent they are about goofy stuff like self-driving cars and making the masses eat bugs and grass. If you assume that what they really long for is a ritually pure world, where no grubby prole could ever possibly put his greasy mitts on… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Good point. They have as little contact with the great unwashed masses as possible and want to have even less. The thought are having to share a meal with common people would make them physically ill.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

And you thought the masks for the politicians were about the coof.

Its a mask against the filthy outside plebs.

Severian
Reply to  trumpton
3 years ago

I never for a hot second thought the masks were about the vid, but I take your point, and agree. We keep seeing pics of the ruling caste at parties with no masks, but the servants all masked up. This is because they can’t force us to avert our dirty prole eyes when they walk in the room… yet. (Soon, my pretties, soon. That kid at Rutgers, who was expelled from ONLINE classes for not taking the shot, was not an isolated instance. I still have friends in the ivory tower, and they tell me a large and growing number… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

We keep seeing pics of the ruling caste at parties with no masks, but the servants all masked up.

The British parliament just re-introduced a mask mandate for everyone who works in Westminster. Except for the MPs themselves.

They can’t not see what this looks like. It has to be deliberate, a contemptuous fuck you to the peons, flaunting how little they care about what you think.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Real-life example:

Whenever the C-suite execs deign to show up at my plant, we plebes are banned from the entire front lobby, meeting rooms, the large conference room that overlooks the factory floor, and the front parking lot.

Nope, no aristocracy in the US, no siree Bob.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Howard – this is a recent phenomenon. As recently as 30 years ago, I toured many factories/HQs with CEOs who wore jeans and work clothes and knew the employees by name – Don Tyson and JB Hunt – to name just a few of these famous, hands-on execs. The “royal” CEO has really just arrived over the last 15 years.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

Cpt. Willard-

What you describe sounds like the corporate world my grandmother used to describe from her days working as a secretary at the oil company Amoco in the ’50s.

That sort of environment sounds like a different, far more pleasant planet than the corporate environment I have experienced for two decades.

Ronald Peter Frederick Olson
Ronald Peter Frederick Olson
Member
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

The Texans (Long black leather jackets and Stetsons) came to the wheel foundry I was a contractor at and shot the shit with the boys in the cafeteria (best meatloaf I ever ate, sorry baba) and noodled over every aspect of the process.
Fer a week.
Up on the cranes, right inside the air handlers etc etc.
I mean who the fuck am I blasting out condensers on the movable cranes.. But wanted to know and asked the right questions.
Boys never forgot it..

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

It came with a hige increase in pay. CEO’s back in the day made 20x maybe 30x what the workers made. Its reasonable. Being a CEO is actually a tough job. These days they get 300x or more and this doesn’t include bennies. How much is enough? For these people, apparently there is no upper bound. Frankly if the DR every gets power , the hardest thing we will have to do isn’t repatriation or rooting out the subversives. That stuff would be child’s play compared to making the economy low corruption and having a sane wealth distribution. That would… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Wild Geese – Hubby just forwarded an email about his office Christmas party – yes, really – scheduled for December. No mention of masks at all – just labeled “A Party Never Killed Anyone.” I’m a bit surprised, but husband said his boss’s secretary is not a branch covidian. The question is how many will go, and how many of those will be masked. We don’t usually attend (everyone started bringing their kids years ago so it’s not really a fun adult evening the way it was when ours were young and we got a night out). Babysitters for nice… Read more »

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Victorians. Lol, no they don’t. I used to bodyguard these types of people. The ratio of sickos-to-normal is disproportional.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Forever Templar
3 years ago

Interesting. One wonders if one had the power and wealth we so decry, whether or not one would become a “sicko” as well. My general thinking is *yes*—especially if one is born into such.

Poverty, or rather lower class existence, may not be desirable, but high class wealth and power is no great blessing either it would seem.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

It seems strange how the most bugmen/bugwomen are in places like the imperial capital. Outside of the main business/government districts, DC, like most metro areas, has a lot of slums. Though they may claim to worship African Americans, there is a certain amount of realism you have to have to live in an American city. These are people who will sit for hours in bumper to bumper traffic twice a day to avoid contact with the dirt people and vibrant dirt people on the trains and buses. It’s almost like the implausibility of the ‘pure and good’ vibrant dirt people… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

IIRC BART stopped showing the CCTV footage to ‘avoid racist stereotyping of suspects.’ They were just early adopters. Now when some widely witnessed crime occurs the description of the perp(s) is “wearing a hoodie and sneakers.” Everyone knows the code at this point.

B125
B125
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

As far as I can tell the Brahmins have taken over a huge chunk of the US elite and upper class without anybody even noticing. Seriously, go look at the key people of any major company. At least half of them are Indians (presumably Brahmins). In tech & engineering well over 50% of the corporate “leaders” are Indians. It’s even worse there than in Canada, we have different types of Indians, who are taking over the drug trade and concrete mafias. It’s entirely possible that the Brahmin influence is far far larger than we realize, and the reason for the… Read more »

Severian
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

To tie back to our host’s mention of the Holmes trial, that – the literal Brahminization of the ruling caste – would explain a lot. I’m not surprised that *young people* got taken in (this is Asperger Nation if you’re under 40), but they weren’t funding her, OLD people were. But that weird, robotic affect is very common among high caste Hindus. If she’d mastered that head bobble thing Subcontinentals do, she had it made.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Severian: Well, she took her Hindoo co-exec into her bed and that must have added to the allure for the cloud people giving her money – so wonderfully perverse/diverse. Now, of course, she’s saying it was all his fault and she’s an innocent little girl.

God, women really are manipulative beyotches.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

B125 – yes it amazing how many pajeets are relatively in positions of power in this (former) country. It used to be a joke that every time one called customer service, some damn dot named Bob or Mary, who could hardly be understood, was on the other end of the line. Now they seem to be running way too many things or opining on American subjects they have absolutely no business commenting on.

Enoch Cade
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

There’s also the fact that Indian women (I won’t be so impolite as to call them “pajeetas”) are among the most annoyingly, stridently, shrilly, aggressively woke amongst all our new American neighbors. I assume it’s because they see it as a way to further their status rather than personal animus against (eg) a farmer from the Deep South who served in the Confederate Army, but it’s no less annoying for all that.

vmax71
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

lol….did some Indian guy steal your girlfriend man?

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  vmax71
3 years ago

And right on schedule, another pajeet commenter shows up. Why you think you’re welcome absolutely everywhere Whites try to go and discuss White issues would be puzzling if I didn’t understand you’re motivated by envy and hatred. The Brits showed what a sh%thole your country was and how few White men it took to dominate and somewhat improve it. Today, to your simple brown mind (excuse me, wheatish mind), anglosphere countries equal England, and you now feel triumphant.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

The funniest thing about the Brits in India was that they weren’t actually trying to improve the place but rather trying to rob it. They improved it in during the process of making wealth extraction more efficient and profitable. Even dreg WASP’s do a better job job governing diversities than native diversity elites.

Peabody
Peabody
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

I worked for a Paki boss at a Japanese company decades ago. It had a really evil HR department that he got to tap my phone. I hated the guy and said some rather unflattering things about him over that phone. Instead of just firing me he and the evil HR demons conspired to make me miserable enough to leave on my own. It gives me a fair degree of satisfaction to think of the look on his hound dog face (that may have been one of the insults) when he heard my uncensored opinion of him.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

Bignose lends them the money for their yachts. Bignose paid off the whores in DC to let them in. So whose the real boss here, brother?

miforest
Member
Reply to  B125
3 years ago

its the bottom end too. I have traveled throughout the rural midwest , the rural south and rural plains states in the last few years . they own EVERY party store, motel , independent gas station . absolutely all of them . even in very tiny towns

jakes
jakes
Reply to  Severian
3 years ago

Asimov was prescient in his description of the “Spacers”, who saw themselves as superior in every way to the Earthpeople. They felt most comfortable interacting with others via their version of Zoom, were pathologically concerned with disease, and became physically ill when forced to be in the physical presence of a filthy Earther.

Pozymandias
Reply to  jakes
3 years ago

Hand sanitizer, masks, vaccines (and endless “boosters”), rituals like refusing handshakes, scowling at people who touch their own face (sorry, no more scratching your beard to ponder something) – they’re already there. The Cloudies’ belief that without these constant technological interventions they will become deathly ill suggests that after a few centuries and with assortative mating continuing, this will actually come to pass. Will it be so surprising when the total lack of an immune system is a status symbol? Fortunately for us and unfortunately for them, the current society won’t last long enough for the bug people to complete… Read more »

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
3 years ago

I’m not really into the Jew thing, but

” The culture will become one where evading the spirit of the rules is the natural habit of mind.”

Sounds incredibly Jewish.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Tykebomb
3 years ago

100% accurate. Rabbinical Talmudic ‘Interpretation’ was basically a bunch of old jewish guys figuring out ways to weasel out of, circumvent, and lawyer their way out of God’s laws. And you wonder why these people excel in courtrooms. 2000+ years of practice…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Apex Predator
3 years ago

I once spent several months in Israel on company business. Here are a couple of examples I recall. 1) Jews are not allowed to have alcohol in their house during Passover. To get around this, they enter into contracts with a 3rd party who purchases their liquor before Passover, and sells it back to them immediately after Passover. All the while, the liquor never leaves their house, but they don’t technically own it during Passover. 2) Jews cannot operate electrical devices during Shabbat, so there would always be a dedicated elevator in each hotel that would go up and down… Read more »

Enoch Cade
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

hahah — FOOLED YOU, GOD!

Hi - ya!
Hi - ya!
Reply to  DLS
3 years ago

Wow, theres something in the NT about screwing their parents out of helping them in their old age by donating money to the temple…

Wkathman
Wkathman
3 years ago

Nice to read Z-man expressing a touch of skepticism toward the experimental gene therapies that are all the rage these days.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Wkathman
3 years ago

He’s done so since day one.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Felix Krull
3 years ago

Yes, this entire group has been pretty much on target wrt Covid hysteria, from day one. The notable exception, JEB, who remained a steadfast supporter/apologist of the CDC and WHO pronouncements from on high. At least he had the good sense to quit commenting when repeatedly proven wrong.

nailheadtom
3 years ago

There’s hardly a paragraph or even a sentence in this missive that can’t receive valid criticism or be considered 180 degrees off. None of this stuff is new. Homo sapiens has been swindling others of his species since moving down from the trees. A disciplined ruling class reinforces the idea that the rules matter, and they must be respected. This attitude becomes a habit of mind for the people. The rulers, whomever they may be, encode behaviors that already exist in the population, they don’t initiate them. For instance, cock fighting and eating horse meat were both common in the… Read more »

tashtego
Member
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

You may be right, twas ever thus, in a general sense. I’ve watched the man made climate change fraud corrupt pubic science for most of my adult life. The holiest of holies for society is definitely that blacks are capable of achieving and participating in a modern white society as equals. Life included a steady drum beat of experiments to somehow prove this article of faith but that always, ALWAYS, proved the opposite. The Obama administration gave executive power to those who consciously or not recognize that blacks can’t be lifted up to achieve equality of outcome and therefore whites… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  tashtego
3 years ago

What you note is a general corollary of Marxism’s implementation of “equality” among the masses. It is always possible to bring the higher performing people down to the level of the lowest, but never the reverse. This simple truth goes a long way to explaining most official policy we see today.

Occam’s razor applied to sociology?

Natarnsco
Member
Reply to  nailheadtom
3 years ago

“How would people be stopped from investigating the natural world?”
Ask James Watson.

vmax71
Reply to  Natarnsco
3 years ago

If an Uzbekistani warlord didn’t buy is nobel prize and then give it back to him without asking the money back, Holmers would be on the street right now for his views. He is completely ex-communicated from science. The co-dicoverer of the structure of DNA. Or perhaps, it is God’s wrath since he and his buddy, hid into from Rosalind Franklin , depriving her of also sharing the prize.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  vmax71
3 years ago

That’s a myth. Rosalind Franklin died young of cancer several years before Watson & Crick won the Nobel. Nobel Prizes aren’t awarded posthumously.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  RoBG
3 years ago

RoBG: Shun the troll rather than engaging with it.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  vmax71
3 years ago

Surely you have some pseudo-IRS phone calls to make and some White marks to cheat out of their life savings rather than linger here?

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The professionalization of science has most likely been the signal that it has grown weaker and weaker. Far less effective at what it used to do. In so many cases, professional scientists just seem to pretend about attaining the truth; without actually putting in the hard work, it’s all marketing and hype. Again and again. In the early 1900s, when Niels Bohr and company were considering how to interpret quantum phenomena, there were probably only a thousand professional physicists worldwide. This network appeared small enough that many were on personal terms with many others, with this link extending across the… Read more »

Muhammad Izadi
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Late Friedrich Jünger addressed this perspective in his great book, “The Failure of Technology: Perfection Without Purpose”.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Real science is very, very hard—especially in modern fields of maturity (the low hanging fruit having been picked). And we are less intellectually capable than our predecessors of even a few generations ago. That, coupled with the growth in University attendance and “publish or perish” promotion policies, has produced a glut of mediocrities that fill our once vaunted University system.

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Michael Faraday will always be my favorite scientist. He was, after all, essentially an uneducated prole … (father a blacksmith, he himself apprenticed as a book binder). Yet his work in electromagnetism and chemistry was as fundamental to modern technology as any formally educated man who ever lived. (And was even rewarded a membership in the Royal Society for his work) The fact that a non-credentialed cannot achieve such prestige (without first becoming vastly wealthy at something else and “buying” the prestige) is a strong indication of just how corrupt modern science has become. It is a priest caste and… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Memebro
3 years ago

John Harrison springs to mind, also. The mathematician George Green, too.

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

George Boole, son of a shoemaker, and without whom we would not be reading this blog.

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  Major Hoople
3 years ago

Yep, Mr Boolean

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

The book and miniseries about John Harrison, both titled Longitude are both worthwhile investments of one’s time.

Harrison’s story is one of the best real-life David and Goliath examples.

mmack
mmack
3 years ago

“Science and its practical application have been the gift from the gods that has allowed man to move beyond his primitive existence. In modern societies it is the thing that is supposed to provide the limits on excess and steadily improve daily life. It is fair to say that trust in scientific and technological progress is the bedrock of modernity. It is the thing that we all trust to keep society anchored to reality. It should be the thing the ruling class protects at all costs, but that is no longer true.” I’d add that as important as science and… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  mmack
3 years ago

A good point. Many scientific writers of the past 300-400 years saw science as an attempt to understand Him. I’d agree that we want to avoid zealotry – but after we’ve wiped anti-white wokeists from the face of the planet. It’s also interesting to note that science with a Christian bedrock has a much better track record than science with an ideological (think Wokeist) bedrock. I believe this to be related to the link between many early scientists and their Christian beliefs. That said, some of our greatest minds and innovators were either quiet about their believes or outright atheists/agnostics.… Read more »

Memebro
Memebro
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

This is because the previous generations of scientists who were Christians were approaching science with an awe and wonder of the natural world, something they could only attribute to a divine creation. When you TRULY love life and the beauty and mystery of everything, you are full of genuine motivations that lead to real, valuable discoveries. The secular scientists of today are nihilistic know-it-all’s who believe life to be meaningless and random, the beauty of it subjective, the structure of it nothing more than a computer code that can be broken and manipulated at will. When you believe your own… Read more »

OrangeFrog
OrangeFrog
Reply to  Memebro
3 years ago

Other possible issues are the immense specialization of science, resulting in fragmented knowledge that hardly anyone can check or verify.

Secondly, the separation of science and the philosophy. Most silly.

But a lot of science actually has no grounding in the real world, so to speak. Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) is pretty much the only way to get meaningful models of hypersonic (watch out! The Chinks!) flow; yet it works. But it has limitations.

Plus, scientists tend to also think that computer models are the be-all and end-all. They’re not.

Pozymandias
Reply to  OrangeFrog
3 years ago

Computer models are fine when the temporal and spatial scales are on the order of what we can measure and when all the input parameters that matter are known. This is why you can have really good models of car crashes that will reproduce even the little details in the way the metal folds up. When you model a system where there’s still disagreement about exactly how it works and what weights to attach to different factors your model will only be reasonable to the extent that it matches reality. Climate models are notorious since people are still arguing about… Read more »

usNthem
usNthem
3 years ago

Another excellent post today. Phenomenal day in and day out. I have to say I really don’t like the way the covid discussions are headed. No amount of proof of the questionable efficacy or the direct dangers of the vaccine, let alone the obviously low fatality rate of the virus itself will change the covidian mind. The continued clamoring for everyone to get vaxxed, now including young kids is very disconcerting. The further talk, becoming more mainline, of isolating and impoverishing including forcibly, non-covidians is extremely troubling. We have to be very close to some sort of inflection point.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

It is, as Z and Severian have pointed out, a religion. We now have the Crusaders marching forth to convert or punish the non-believers.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

What ever happened to stop touching our faces? That was a big thing, now, touch away!

Jesco White
Jesco White
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

Handkerchiefs fit with the germ theory of disease in that germs were understood to be spread through coughing and sneezing. Perpetual mask wearing implies that Miasma theory (polluted air) is the primary vector of cross-contamination.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

The truly devout Covidian still follows that but it’s true they don’t talk much about it anymore. Social distancing also seems to have faded away. The main obsession of the Coofists now is masks. None of this surprises me. The Coofian religion is a stupid one meant for the stupid and simple minded. They needed something obvious and concrete to tell the righteous from the damned and settled on the Holy Rag of Coofing. All the other shit is out the window so just make sure to strap that filthy napkin on your face and you’re fine.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

This is why it is imperative for us to get out of their system.

Then, start developing our own system, or assist those who seem worthwhile that are doing the same thing.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

usNthem: It’s been a steady ratcheting up, and will continue until there is either a major conflict or we’re all forcefully subdued. For a substantial portion of the vaxxed, the very existence of the unvaxxed represents a critical rebuke. That an unvaxxed can survive and thrive represents a contradiction of their cherished dogma, and then threatens the entire edifice of their woke unreality. They truly have a burning hatred of those who won’t accept and participate in their fantasy world, to the point they truly want you and I dead – no job, no food? No problem if we’d merely… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  3g4me
3 years ago

For the same reason every white area, no matter how small and remote must have its influx just so no counter example can show up the lies.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  usNthem
3 years ago

Bignose lends them the money for their yachts. Bignose paid off the whores in DC to let them in. So whose the real boss here, brother?

Muhammad Izadi
3 years ago

||| “Science and its practical application have been the gift from the gods that has allowed man to move beyond his primitive existence” |||

Yet, in that ‘primitive existence’ Man had a much better idea of ‘Man’ and ‘Being’, which he lost once he began to overestimate his ‘rationality’.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

I was recently listening to a podcast about 2 guys who were murdering people in the 19th century to sell the bodies to medical men at the university. Their names were “Burke and Hare,” and their crimes are called the “Burke and Hare Murders” They were murdering poor people in London, from prostitutes to down on their luck workers. When what they were doing came to light, one of them was tried and quickly hung. But the wealthy doctor from the college who was buying the corpses (to autopsy/vivisection for public display) and hiding where they came from and how… Read more »

tashtego
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

Our enemies would or rather do say explicitly that what is different today is the power to oppress has been justly turned on the white devil. The spirit of today is very much that of retribution against whites for the stubborn failure of blacks to achieve equality of outcome. Since that is not possible without genetic engineering to lift up one side or some kind of reverse eugenics policy to bring down the other whites must be punished and oppressed. Genetic engineering is hampered by ideological constraints here in the US since certain discovered truths that would make it possible… Read more »

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

This is what seems to be incredibly hard for people to accept: Rule of Law is dead- Rule of Men (if it ever truly went away) prevails. Adjust paradigms accordingly.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
3 years ago

Did not know that. I did know about the “Resurrection Men.” You can still visit graveyards in Scotland where families or parishes put cage-like structures over the graves of their loved ones to thwart them.

TomA
TomA
3 years ago

Once again, these are hard truths of our modern era in which prolonged affluence has made us soft and that softness has allowed deviant predators to rise to the top of our political & economic power structures. Robber barons have become an epidemic and the normal checks & balances of law enforcement have been corrupted absolutely. They own the police & judiciary. And if we don’t take it back, we will have earned our fate. But how? There are still many good men and women among us (tens of millions in fact), and we are all behind enemy lines, and… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  TomA
3 years ago

As an added note.

It’s amazing how many wrenches you can throw in the system and how much you can get away with just by being polite and nice to their face while doing it. People have been programmed to equate niceness with morality. As annoying as it is to dip your words in honey, it’s an incredibly effective way to silence your enemies.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

Revenge of the Nice Guys(TM).

Like Dalton’s famous lecture to the team of bouncers in “Road House”: “I want you to be nice. until it is time to not be nice.”

It works really well. But in the end (spoiler!), he still has to rip that guys throat out. Right in front of the hot chick no less.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

The hot blonde babe was Kelly Lynch in her prime.

She was the hottest thing to hit the screen from Minnesota since prime Jessica Lange’s debut in the 1976 remake of King Kong

Yak-15
Yak-15
3 years ago

My favorite “science” is that of the airport dwelling consultant – Neo-liberal economics. This is best personified by Daron Acemoglu. Because, according to this caste, every attribute of humanity is due to human environmental factors, they seek to explain facts like differences in national GDP through “institutions.” To them, the “developing world” is suffering due to environmental causes like lack of “institutions,” “natural resource curses,” or “dengue fever.” Never mind the fact that institutions didn’t spring from the earth, the US does well with ample resources and winter is a far greater killer/economic retardant than tropical disease. But, as many… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Yak-15
3 years ago

Another flavor of blank-slateism.

Farm Boy
Farm Boy
3 years ago

Slave labor can make u very rich also. Just ask Bezos.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Farm Boy
3 years ago

Not to mention no sales taxes for the first decade or so, courtesy of the government, to put all you competition out of business.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

Makes sense when you consider Amazon is meant to become the global plantation store.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
3 years ago

A recent poll showed that Millennials are far more likely to think it was morally acceptable to cheat and to try to get even with people than Gen X. While a lot of this has to do with the collapse of religion, a large portion is younger generations growing up in a society where the rules mattered far less. At this rate Gen Z will be a bunch of moral psychopaths. It’s just a matter of if there’s enough competence being taught in our institutions where they can keep the lights on while backstabbing their way through our new low-trust… Read more »

RWC1963
RWC1963
Reply to  Chet Rollins
3 years ago

BFD since the previous generations didn’t do squat except support a series of insane foreign wars, off-shored our industries and made us China’s bitch.

Do you realize how pathetic we are as a nation today when we are totally dependent on China from toys, medicine, clothes and semiconductors that are needed for everything from making cars to our latest military hardware. 30 years ago this wasn’t the case.

At least this current crop is learning not to trust the government, businessmen, politicians and hopefully grow a backbone that the earlier generations gave up for a 401k.and sportsball.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  RWC1963
3 years ago

The Based Zoomer is the right’s Hidden Imam.

No American generation has ever been more obedient to government and business and Mom than today’s young adults. In surveys forty percent of them claim to be some kind of quasi-gay. Why? Because that’s what the government and business and Mom tell them to be. They’re lying about it, hiding, being teacher’s pet, etc.—yes. They’re absolutely defeated, all the way down to their [Carlins].

Of course “we” made them that way. And? There they are. Daily nudes $5/mo.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Hemid
3 years ago

I’m not a John Mayer fan, but his song ‘Waiting On the World to Change’ summed it up nicely a long time ago.

The feeling of powerlessness and having a huge mess to clean up was pretty well-beaten into anyone under 35-40.

Remember that talk of boomer removers and the day of the pillow? Yep.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

“For when these men have been brought up in a corrupt city, where their training is little likely to improve them, nothing that can happen will induce them to withdraw their pretensions; nay, to have their own way and satisfy their perverse humor, they will be content to look on while their country is ruined.”
-Machiavelli

David Wright
Member
3 years ago

We have a legion of Winston Smiths redacting and changing accepted knowledge and facts from the past. As you have noted with the Covid BS. At some point the masses will believe it was always this way, hell, some change on the fly with the new “facts”. When will that final penny drop for average conservative and still with many dissidents that the system is fully broken and is daily being retooled to crush us. Watch the hopium being injected in many regarding the Virginia governor’s race. Believing polls, expecting fair vote counting is nuts at this stage. Have they… Read more »

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

The dismantling of the internet wayback machine is already happening with sites blocking it, and Google’s search algorithms are practically North Korean for controversial topics.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

I burst out laughing last night watching Tucker Carlson because he seemed genuinely sure the two clowns in Virginia were at a dead heat.

First, I never believe polls. Second if I ever had I would no longer knowing the Gestapo cooks the books.

Finally, has Tucker not learned the lesson of the election coup of 2020? Any election the demofascists can’t afford to lose they won’t.

Oh, and the leftists always count the votes.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

No.

He was projecting a message to you.

What he believes is irrelevant to this, and you cannot possibly know. What is saying to you is as written in his script and talking points. This is what is projected.

I am confused people cannot apply a theory of mind to the people on TV. You are not having a conversation as to their views. You are being managed in a wider programme.

RWC1963
RWC1963
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

Tucker has to be careful when it comes to vote fraud because he will end up like Lou Dobbs being fired and erased from Fox. It is now the third rail.

All it took for Dobbs to be fired was Dominion threatening to sue FNC.

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  RWC1963
3 years ago

RWC1963 – seems like there have been lots of “third rails” over the past few decades. And for some reason, they keep getting updated as society and the culture degrade…

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Hoagie
3 years ago

“It’s not longer about who gets to vote…It’s about who gets to count the vote”. –

President of the United States, Joseph Robinette Biden.

(he actually said this)

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Correct. They have learned nothing.

Gunner Q
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

“When will that final penny drop for average conservative and still with many dissidents that the system is fully broken”

When a new system is on offer, I expect. Most people who are dependent upon the Matrix, can’t contemplate escape without somebody to recruit them at the other end.

That explains the current observed behavior of conservatives opposing Biden’s mandate by every method up to, but never including, directly challenging D.C. They need the Matrix more than the Matrix needs them.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

Whitney Webb noticed that a lot of reporting on Epstein (even on the Wayback) is being purged. She advocates for saving things off as a .pdf if you can.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  David Wright
3 years ago

David Wright: You are obviously wise enough to answer your own rhetorical question. No, they have not learned. They will not learn. Even at the cost of their children’s lives. My apologies to those who believe many of their ‘friends’ and relatives will eventually come to our side, because I don’t think that will happen. They’ll go only so far and no further, because that would entail badthoughts and risk and social opprobrium. And because they’ve been taught that human equality is part of Christian teaching, although Jesus never said or implied anything of the sort.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

*cannot be attributed

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
3 years ago

The West and particularly the United States is now sociopathic. Yes, some of this can be attributed to the presence of Puritans and Jews at the top echelons–certainly the narcissism and cruelty–but most of the widespread pathology can be honestly attributed to those groups. The public as a whole embraced the dysfunctional,, violent pathology of urban Blacks because that is what they see as admirable; brainwashing played a role albeit a small one. Most is choice. Disconnect from this sick culture as much as possible not just because it is about to collapse into violent chaos but because you you… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

If the charming psychopath trading in narcissistic supply is the model actor certainly the globo petro dollar factors in as well. The west being the market maker and clearing house for financial transactions of the global pillaging provides quite a carnival in which barkers and freaks and their pets can thrive. Who needs virtue when your fiat currency is the sword on the neck of the world? Even for us plebs the abuse of reality is so widespread and intrusive at this point that the dignity of our own labor has been cooked off to boil the pot we call… Read more »

RWC1963
RWC1963
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Heh. whites have been disconnected from culture and life since the 70’s. This is why they lost their country. They stopped caring. There is a reason why Wall Street labels us consumers and not citizens. Because we gave up being citizens for creature comforts and entertainment.

For the most part we became indifferent. This indifference is also allows a tiny minority to rule over us with impunity. We have become the modern day Eloi.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  RWC1963
3 years ago

I thought we’d already transitioned to comrades.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  RWC1963
3 years ago

Simple enough. Love of money. Trade hot ashes of fiat for green trees of culture. Point is at least when I was young the solution to a culture of naked materialism was to work. Its so absurd now that the kids have figured out its all or nothing and so work is mostly for suckers unless you show me the money. So what’s the solution? Most, even on our side, will say so just get more jooey, get more money while you can; get yours. The consumer and citizen have converged; they are of equal value at this point: zero.… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jack Dobson
3 years ago

Jack writes, “The public as a whole embraced the dysfunctional, violent pathology of urban Blacks because that is what they see as admirable; brainwashing played a role albeit a small one. Most is choice.” I am a bit more forgiving of our people. Since WW2 the mass media and academia have been hegemonic and have had almost total control in shaping the values of our people. Think of the popularity of Lindbergh’s campaign to keep us out of WW2 and how it was vilified and smothered by the media. Most people are simply not independent thinkers. They have no defense… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
3 years ago

“It is fair to say that trust in scientific and technological progress is the bedrock of modernity. It is the thing that we all trust to keep society anchored to reality.”

So you are saying our power grid being torn up and replaced with solar panels, bird Cuisenarts and unicorn flatulance is not going to keep the lights on?

Man, I wish I lived in a more temperate climate and / or weighed more. It is going to be a cold winter…

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Mow Noname
3 years ago

I’m totally stealing, “bird cuisinarts!”

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
3 years ago

Bird cuisinarts – it just sunk in – I’m stealing that also

Clayton Barnett
3 years ago

In some “end of the world” short story collection I read 40 years ago, one had to do with a real man-made pandemic, not this bullshit Covid-19. The reaction in most countries was to first blame the scientists. And kill them. Then techs and medical staffs. The story ended with primitives around a fire telling about how “those who could read” died last.

Pace your post today, loss in trust in science and technology could have a nasty feedback loop leaving us in the dark. Probably forever.

Aristophanes
Member
3 years ago

Good post. TLDR, the world sucks.

Howard Beale
Howard Beale
Reply to  Aristophanes
3 years ago

With respect, ‘TLDR’ is one of the reasons why we have profligate & draconian EULAs as well as 1,200 page congressional bills; both staples of this new order. I’m trying to slow down and read more detail again.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

It gets old repeating, but that dictum militating virtue as the linchpin of any civil polity is wonderfully illustrated by Zs excellent précis. Regardless of our Framers [and other theoreticians] efforts, without virtue, even the most cleverly devised system of check, balances, and limited governments are eventually going to fail. The ouroborean nature of civilization seems inextricably tied to the Fall, writ over and over again.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

“ouroborean”: relating to the serpent Ouroboros, eating his own tail.

Show up to read Mr. Z-Man’s missive, stay for the perspicasity.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
3 years ago

Whatever else you might think of him, NN Taleb (Black Swan guy) has it right about “skin in the game”. Not only do the elites not have to play by the rules, they are increasingly immune from the results of their disasters. The historians tell us that at Cannae, perhaps 25% of the Roman Senate perished under Hannibal’s swords. The Code of Hammurabi held that architects/builders would suffer death if their structures collapsed due to negligence. Today, lower-echelon officers get blamed for four-star disasters and entire companies get blown up while the CEOs skate. The Boeing MAX 737 debacle is… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I know nothing about him except that his fans use “skin in the game” to blame people so poor they don’t pay income tax for what oligarchs have politicians do.

That says what he is.

(((They))) live
(((They))) live
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Taleb likes to say that he only eats or drinks food that has an Arabic or Hebrew name, basically he like food that’s been around for hundreds of years, it would do him far less harm than some new or foreign food. This is not a bad idea, its essentially conservitate in nature. Yet NNT seems to have bought into the covid BS

I do like him, but he’s not always right

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Z’s comment prompted me to learn more about the fox versus hedgehog distinction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hedgehog_and_the_Fox

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Captain Willard
3 years ago

In the past, to be a noble or an elite provided obligations as well as privileges. I am currently reading through Tolstoy’s “War and Peace”. While the noble families described in the novel are certainly flawed, the expectation existed that they were to serve Russia, and that their sons would be risking their lives on the battlefield to fight for their country. They had skin in the game. As recently as WWII, the expectation of the elites in our society was for them to risk their lives serving their country when called upon. And not just pushing papers. Joe Kennedy… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

And that very fact was used to engender two world wars to obliterate the existing elite in Europe and make way for the new entries into the power structure.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

I’m on my second reading of W&P and the only suspect character is Pierre. Its almost like, unwittingly, he is an ideological timebomb. I havn’t read any commentary on W&P yet, but I wonder what Tolstoy was getting about Pierre. Andrei has his liberal side, but Pierre bests him in strangeness and wrecklessness. The fact that he is a bastard has got to be symbolic

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

Yup. At the end he’s fixing to be a Decembrist.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

To this point (about 570 pages in), I am suspicious of the Kuragin family especially. Seem to be rather conniving. Perhaps I am mistaken, and the story will reveal itself.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
3 years ago

Even that ridiculous shell of a man Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex served in the British army for a decade, flew helicopters, and served two tours in Afghanistan.

God help us when foreign popinjay royals have more sense of patriotism and military fervor than anyone in our political elites.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  ProZNoV
3 years ago

I am not sure you want Kamala or Pelosi’s offspring flying armed helicopters in a war zone.

Hunter Biden in a tank on the front line. Hilary Ben in the marines.

Just writing it seems ridiculous, So that shows how nonsensical obligations have become.

Maniac
Maniac
3 years ago

I canceled my appointment to get the J&J jab a week ago when I read that it landed a local police chief in the ICU. I was also supposed to see one of my favorite bands play live tomorrow evening, but the venue requires proof of vaccination or a negative Kung Flu test.

Damn it all.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Maniac
3 years ago

They’re coming for all of us. Even the kids now.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Maniac
3 years ago

So go get a flu test. Could save your life if it enables you to begin therapeutics early. If you’re negative go to your concert. Either way you screw the man.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Maniac
3 years ago

The wages of entertainment is death lol. Same as it ever was, but things get really clear as they play out.

Good choice!

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  Maniac
3 years ago

Its a free country! Uh, wait a minute….

Whitney
Member
Reply to  Maniac
3 years ago

I have been uninvited to a Thanksgiving get together by my aunt because I won’t take the shot. I don’t care. My family is a microcosm of the state of the white world. It will be a couple lesbians and their partners and a single catlady witch/satanist who considers baby killing the highest good. The only male is a retired doctor who wears a mask alone in his car. Nobody under 50 because there are no children. I’m sure they will talk about how crazy I am.

https://thecovidblog.com/

https://rumble.com/vnc5yk-dr.-peter-mccullough-therapeutic-nihilism-and-untested-novel-therapies-aaps.html

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Jeez that sounds a depressing holiday dinner.

I remember reading about a guy who killed himself by drilling into his own skull 9 times with an electric drill.

I always wondered how he kept going after the first 2. Perhaps he had a similar Thanksgiving.

Whitney
Member
Reply to  trumpton
3 years ago

Ha! Seriously. My most innocuous comment about anything would probably trigger one and all

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

With that cast of characters – if I were uninvited to that get together – that alone would be cause for thanksgiving.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

You might be surprised. Years ago when I was at the age where shocking your elders was a “thing,” I made a comment at Thanksgiving dinner that Uncle Ted was right about a lot of things (except blowing innocent people up, of course.) We actually had a discussion about it!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Suddenly misery doesn’t love company. So many silver linings to covid!

(((They))) live
(((They))) live
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Strange that you’re the only sane member of the family, back when Trump was running in 2015 I went to my cousins wedding, I always assume that most people are normies, but talking to my American cousins was interesting, they laughed at Trump and called him a clown, but based on what they said, I know they voted for him. This was a wedding in Ireland BTW and I was surprised with the number of people who I would class as normies were using Alt right terms

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Not having to spend a day under the same roof with them–sounds like you got the best end of the bargain.

Screwtape
Screwtape
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

That is sad. 2021 looking to be the most bizzare Thanksgiving yet. I will be hosting gluten free ,vegetarian, dairy free Covidian inlaws. Fully penetrated, even the kid. The covid finally has them convinced that I have brainwashed their kin with my supremacy. So I embrace the dropping of the pretense that maybe I am one of them. I have gone out of my way to stuff the shelves of my library with as many hatefact history and other far-right-wing-extremassistic books I could find at the local used book stores and from my private reserve. Its also been motivation to… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Screwtape
3 years ago

I wonder why people entertain such stupid dietary mandates from a guest. If I do not want to eat a thing I do not go. Otherwise I am grateful someone has taken the time to prepare a meal and I attend with good grace. If you go to their house do they prepare a normal meal for you? I would bet a large amount they do not (this type never does). So if they do not reciprocate the thought they are just dominating the situation and you are letting it happen. Its the same reason they dominate in society. Attempting… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Whitney
3 years ago

Whitney : Have a celebratory dinner with similar non-Covid believing friends. Or just do something else – anything else – which makes you happy and for which you give thanks.

I know being the family outcast, even if your family is nuts, can be painful. Build yourself a new family and shake the dust of the old, perverted one off your feet. Don’t let false modesty stop you from fully believing you are in the right here, and that you are a force for good.

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

The CoVid phenomenon may well have a sociological effect similar to that caused by World War One. A complete collapse in the public trust of institutions, elites and the philosophy that ordered the previous century.

I’d say we’re one high casualty flu season away from that happening. It’s becoming obvious to just about everyone that the elites are making shit up as they go along and that “science” is no where near as certain as the establishment insists. Not to mention the self dealing, hypocrisy and shrillness of their blatant propaganda.

Pratt
Pratt
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
3 years ago

I very much doubt that “it’s becoming obvious to just about everyone.” There is no shortage of fanatic, emotionally deeply invested sheep out there.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  Pratt
3 years ago

I agree. I have elderly conservative neighbors that use the “n” word regularly but are convinced 50 people are dying a day in the city from covid….

Chiron
Chiron
3 years ago

For a long time I had the feeling that this decade will be the last “normal” years and when the 2030s come is gonna be a wild ride of uncertainty, maybe already is but when the older boomers finally retire of this life all hell is gonna break because liking then or not it is Boomers who this kept society working.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

I know I sound like the Boomer I am, but the twenty-somethings I repeatedly hire–replacing those who quit after less than a year–just don’t wanna work. They can’t see any value in work other than the $$. And now via a YT video, I heard of a new thing called ‘workism.” As it was an essay from the Atlantic, the mind boggles.

The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
The artist formerly known as Judge Smails
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

I have given 30 years of my life to my job/industry and believe me I am having serious regrets about the night shifts, weekends, overtime, relocating multiple times. It has now come down to being threatened with termination over the vaccine. The assets that I have accumulated, investments and a paid off home, are now being targeted by the DC mob’s tax on unrealized gains (you don’t really think they are going to stop at billionaires do you). Maybe younger people are looking at all this and deciding not to invest their time and energy in a system that has… Read more »

Screwtape
Screwtape

This. A despair of disparity. Certainly the factories of talent and skill have fallen steeply into alt-reality and thus the youngins are ill-equipped. But more importantly the elixir of the american dream has turned to turpentine but he label on the bottle remains. Sure, it can still get you drunk. But you also go blind. In my young years as a corporate cog I could at least see the trajectory; the pretty lies still had some bearing in reality. The kids now have to swallow so many lies that by the time they matriculate into a cog the can no… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard

This a million times.

There is less than zero reason for any white guy to be running a time charity for the corporate state’s benefit.

c matt
c matt

Tax on unrealized gains has been around for decades – it’s called property tax. In many states, including “red” Texas, property taxes are based on the current year made up “market value” of the real estate.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem

Get liquid and get to the country; enjoy a simple life under the radar and, depending on your proclivity, fight if they come to your door, or hope they don’t come to your door before you take the dirt nap.

We are in the process of doing that as I type.

RoBG
RoBG

A lot of us have been there, friend. If you work in Big IT/Big Law/Big Medicine you’re expected to work all the hours and if you don’t they’ll just find someone in a more dire position to replace you. This isn’t good for any society.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

It’s become a self-reinforcing feedback loop. A lot of millennial compatriots complain about corporate culture, in it’s demands for overtime, unpaid or underpaid labor, and the complete lack of work-life balance. The thing is, their complaints are legitimate to an extent. I personally hate corporate culture, which is why I’m self-employed. I’m basically the type of young person corporations would love to hire, but I make six figures working for myself, and thus wouldn’t consider a salary of less than 150k to give up my independence. The trouble is, corps won’t offer more than a third of that.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

An addendum to my comment above: a lot of retail and service jobs that young people work simply serve to insulate upper management from their customer base. By this I mean that the people working POS in retail etc have to hear complaints about policies they have no control over but are expected to enforce. Their job is to absorb abuse but not resolve anything so upper management’s paperwork looks good. That’s just not worth it at entry level wages.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Drew
3 years ago

… the elixir of the American dream has turned to turpentine but the label on the bottle remains. Sure, it can still get you drunk. But you also go blind..
With that, Screwtape wins the prize for Idiom of the Day

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  3 Pipe Problem
3 years ago

There is no value in anything but $$$ in a rigged system. Our system is designed to funnel all gains to a tiny group of elite and pay off government workers to keep the elite in power. The other 89% of us get crumbs. The pandemic caused a lot of people to have enough time to realize this to “wake up” and now they get it, Work no more than you have to and do no more than what they money you are paid buys. That $20 an hour you are making is “still struggling” so you get “pretend to… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

People have come to think they owe potential employers nothing. I have had people not return phone calls after sending me a resume the same day, not show up for interviews, and not show up for the first day of work after accepting a job. It has nothing to do with wages either. These people have no/low skills and don’t think they should have to develop any either.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

It really is the Age of Entitlement.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

They do owe them nothing though: “We hate White people and you must comply with any healthcare mandates dreamed up by our HR under-secretary. Click here to apply!”

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Have you always dreamt of applying your boot the throat of the proles?

In love with the sound of your own reeeing?

Do you already have your own list of ideas on how to expand the 27,563 existing covid rules?

Well we have a perfect career for you in mega-corp HR.

Join the largest company in the world to stick it to the capitalists running your local store!

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

For the overwhelming majority there is nothing principled about this at all. They cannot make the connection between how the community they live in needs ordinary people faithfully completion their jobs, many of them mundane, in order for it to continue functioning. All of life is meant to be entertainment and leisure for them.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
3 years ago

Barnard-

Because electricity comes from the outlet and food grows at the store, silly!

Terrifyingly, some lunatic German woman in the Green party said exactly this last week.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

No one owes potential employers anything; they aren’t employed yet. Besides, employment is at will and either side can end the job on a whim. It’s weird how employers who don’t bother to inform candidates they’ve been rejected get upset when candidates decide not to tell employers they’re no longer interested in the job. It’s even weirder how employers who reserve the right to terminate employees without warning get upset when employees decide to terminate themselves without warning. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Barnard
3 years ago

Barnard: But the same thing happens in reverse. When my son was looking to better his employment he routinely heard nothing back, not even a courtesy “We’re not interested/job has already been filled.” And one guy who said he was very interested in person never even returned a follow-up phone call. When every word of a resume has to pass a female POX filter and then the company thinks they own not just your labor but your thoughts and life outside of their premises, it’s really not worth the hassle.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

But the media told me we have millions of qualified, vibrant STEM PhDs rotting in the fields!

They also told me we have millions of doctors and engineers streaming across the borders every day!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Chiron
3 years ago

Call me a slacker, but I didn’t want to be the guy who created the next plague in the lab. That was 20 years ago.

The meat grinder will start chewing your hand if you don’t pull it out. Guess it’s a matter of perspective.

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

” America is now ruled by a pirate class that is free to do what they like to the people. ”

The only rub is that most of the people love the pirate class, love the direction the empire is going, and believe the things they hear in the news.

They give their stamp of approval of the rulers

Hi -Ya!
Hi -Ya!
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

Thats the hope. I don’t have a lot of conversations with normies so I wouldn’t know. Everyone is afraid to be “extreme”

housak
housak
Reply to  thezman
3 years ago

LOL: Adele Knocked Out of Top Position on iTunes Charts by Not One But Two “Let’s Go Brandon” Songs

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/396191.php

(((They))) live
(((They))) live
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

Most on the left seem to accept the pirate class because the pirate class push causes dear to the left. Most on the right like the pirate class because they too worship money and “success” but think as the economy gets worse more will grow to hate the pirates

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  (((They))) live
3 years ago

That reminds me of Apple and the pirate flag. Can’t say we weren’t warned.

RWC1963
RWC1963
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

Most don’t, they know full well we are being screwed over, bullied and even terrorized. Except they have no venue to express their views in a manner that does not invite retribution.. For all intents most of us live in what amounts to a variant of the USSR.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  RWC1963
3 years ago

A relatively more comfortable USSR. Things will have to get a loss worse before normie awakens. I think the plan is to boil off just enough people to get rid of the undesirables at an acceptable pace, but not so fast as to cause the pot to boil over. Have to hand it to them, they sure seem to be able to walk that fine line.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  c matt
3 years ago

lot worse, not loss. What happened to that great edit function?

A.B Prosper
A.B Prosper
Reply to  Hi -Ya!
3 years ago

I don’t think so. A lot of people are scared half to death of well everything. Some oldsters who just realize their summer of 69 is over fear the reaper Others , the mouse people they’ll go along in hopes that they’ll make it last and that the camps will have jobs, Its just how some people are. Many others though are so angry they could spit . There is a reason that “Let’s Go Brandon” made 1st, 2nd and 3rd on Spotify beating out Adele Problem is right now no one is offering an alternative that isn’t crazier than… Read more »