Avoiding Error

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A week ago, Elon Musk tweeted out an offer to buy Twitter and my initial reaction was that it was a publicity stunt. I chastised a few people on Gab for thinking that this offer by Musk was serious. I was wrong. A few days later the formal filing was made public and it was clear he was making a bid for the company. This week he filed the paperwork indicating he has secured the capital to make good on the offer.

Now, why was I wrong? One reason is I have a bias against rich people so I naturally think the worst of them. I have often used Musk as an example of what is wrong with state capitalism. Most of his business is dependent on favors from the political class or direct subsidies from government. His electric car business would have died long ago without massive subsidies from government.

Another reason I got this Musk business wrong is I violated an important rule of navigation in the modern age. I formed a hot take. The first batch of news and commentary is always wrong, so the hot take based on that stuff is almost always going to be wrong in important ways. The right answer with regards to Musk’s initial tweets about buying Twitter was to wait and see.

This was not the only bit of wrongness on my mind this week. The debate about Ukraine is a good example of getting things wrong. Certain groups of people who are dissident adjacent staked out a bad position on Ukraine. They will have to climb back off that limb at some point and hope everyone forgets about it. This happens a lot on this side of the great divide for some reason.

That is the show this week. How to avoid these errors. We are all floating in a sea of electronic media, so it is easy to be manipulated by that media. It is also easy to react the wrong way to the barrage of information. Central to being a dissident is standing outside the barrage of lies and live in the truth. Therefore, avoiding error by de-conditioning our minds is a primary project of dissident politics.


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Ruslan
Ruslan
2 years ago

So now we have a country that is dominated by a neo-con kosher nostra providing massive aid to a kosher nostra money-laundering/mafia operation, to fight against a third country which is heavily influenced by its own kosher nostra clan. Plus ça change … Blessed Paskha, Ramazan Kerim.

Bilejones
Member
2 years ago

I saw it mentioned but not explained; Why was Counter Currents deep sixed?

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Bilejones
2 years ago

Exodus Americanus was delisted, too. Hmm. Their podcast(s) weren’t worth the paywall, but they weren’t bad.

Armenio Pereira
Armenio Pereira
2 years ago

(against Mr. fix-it; deleveraging the positive self) (To whom it may concern) The tragedy of mankind is that even highly intelligent people like yourself can’t seem to understand the Basic Universal Principle: there’s no positive(good;pleasure) without negative(evil;pain). I’m quite convinced you can easily accept that the atom is formed by both positive and negative particles (among other), and you can also readily entertain the prospect that messing around with the bond between them is not usually a neatly sound idea. Nevertheless, you wake up every single day with the fierce determination to separate your negative self from your positive self.… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
2 years ago

Totally off topic: Expect existing chip shortage to intensify. If you need any household appliance or electronic, BUY IT NOW. In addition to supply chain, problem with chip shortage from Taiwan, and problem with neon shortage from Ukraine, we now have a shortage of machines that print the circuitry on the chips. Near monopoly from Dutch firm ASML (which also just happened to suffer a fire in January) is over a year behind in orders for its machines.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10747469/Tech-firms-rip-apart-NEW-washing-machines-harvest-computer-parts.html

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/asml-lithography-factory-in-berlin-suffers-fire/#:~:text=Dutch%20semiconductor%20component%20company%20ASML%20has%20suffered%20a,2%2C%20but%20details%20on%20the%20incident%20are%20scarce.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

3g4me- Your points and links are exactly why I don’t see the MIC being able to crank out unlimited numbers of high-tech weapons systems to fight the Russians and Chinese. There will be electronic components that are simply physically unavailable no matter how many Fedbux they print. This is why Scholz’s comments about Germany re-arming are laughable. It could happen due to production or shipping foul-ups. They may happen in surprising places. Turkey is responsible for dozens of components in the F-35. A surprising number of F-15 components are sourced from South Korea and Japan. Yes, the printing will cause… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

They’ll get first dibs, one way or another.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  RoBG
2 years ago

It is quite possible the situation with decay to the point where key components and materials are unavailable at any price.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

This seems the likely scenario, Geese. We have been told to expect scarcity although reasons offered often are deceptive or implausible.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: Agree. Many of us see problems forthcoming that the MIC appears unaware of or, more likely, merely discounts. A snippet from Zerohedge the other day expresses my thoughts better than I can: “The New Nobility elites reckon that if they can keep the crumbling cliff edge from collapsing for a few more years, they can maximize their private gains and then escape to their New Zealand bunkers when the consequences of their plunder send the global economy into the abyss. The elites are in effect selling seats in the Titanic’s lifeboats to the highest bidders. The ship is… Read more »

BeAprepper
BeAprepper
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

“Pray…and wait.”

Better yet, Pray …and prepare.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: Re human capital, Sailer features a post today about plans for more diverse airline pilots (https://equalopportunitytoday.com/united-airlines-vows-50-of-new-pilots-hired-will-be-women-or-minorities-to-reflect-passenger-diversity/#:~:text=United%20Airlines%20vows%2050%25%20of%20new%20pilots%20hired,least%2050%25%20being%20women%20or%20people%20of%20color.) Well, having old White ladies and children strip searched by security Somalis didn’t deter Joe Normal, and having to wear a face diaper in between bites didn’t either. Now rapidly rising prices due to fuel might have an effect, but people still insist they must fly from x to y. Most have never heard of the number of crashes tied to female/non-White pilot error. How many crashes and deaths will it take to convince them to stop flying? I stopped years ago.… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

3g4me & others- I know it’s a discretionary purchase for most, but if anyone out there is doing computing work that is GPU intensive now is a good time to buy because prices are down quite a bit with some quite powerful cards available in the the $350-500 range. Anyone considering a CPU upgrade may also want to pull the trigger. The AMD Ryzen products in particular are just stupid cheap for the computing power they offer. Personally, I am on the fence regarding further spending on camera equipment at this time. One part of me says that eventually anything… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: Go for the solar power station. We have a couple of small ones we bought last spring (price has risen about $100 since then); waiting for Amazon Prime Days to hopefully find a decent deal on a large one (minimum 2000 watts). Big one is better for larger appliance like a full-size fridge; use the smaller ones for lights and/or laptop or phone or fans. Best to have a variety of solar generators as opposed to relying on one for the entire house.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

As a preface, most of us here are frugal and prepared or trying to be prepared in an uncertain time. That out of the way, probably the best investment to be made at the moment are durable goods of any nature, even if it means duplication of something not needed at the moment. Inflation is just one side of the coin. Availability is the other. We are being told a world of scarcity is upon us. The mantra just a few years ago was we live in a post-scarcity society. Microchips are just one of many items about to become… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
2 years ago

I’m listening to the VDare castle stream and am disgusted by the worms that want to pretend that people from Mexico and South America are white.

Apparently, we can solve all our problems by redefining “white.” Why didn’t we think of that before?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

To clarify, I love Peter, Lydia, Kevin, John, and crew. I am just cranky about having to suffer fools gladly.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Now some fucking cuck thinks E-Verify is too onerous. With friends like these…?

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Playing the margins in hopes of winning conventional approval seems like hoping that all blacks secretly agree with Thomas Sowell.

Good luck with that, you stupid fucker.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

James Kirkpatrick brings the truth, you stupid fuckers.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

You mean cats aren’t just like dogs?

The negro beast will never embrace the culture of whitey (obeying laws, planning for the future, showering regularly).

BeAprepper
BeAprepper
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

From the Castle.

I think the speaker you have in mind simply raised the hopeful Q that it may be that some Hispanics appear white, may self identify as white, and may be sliding away from the D Party.

Great venue, great hospitality, great conversation. Throughly enjoying this event.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Line: You’ll see that at every last purportedly “white advocacy” channel. Doesn’t matter how pro-White they claim to be; they all know those special, exceptional non-whites whom they then project to redefine the mean. Orientals, Mestizos, half this or half that – they eternally grasp at straws to demonstrate that they’re not really rayciss, or haters, or un-Christian. If they can find just one ‘x’ to illustrate “naxalt,” then they feel they’ve morally redeemed themselves. I, too, love Peter and Lydia and family, but I just can’t support their way going forward. Immigration restriction is a ship that sailed decades… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

” … and bringing court cases against those who call you rayciss is not what I consider a winning proposition”

These are people who are just totally out of step with the times. They are living in 1965, which is fine, but they think *everybody* is living in 1965.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

It’s a lot more nuanced than that. Look at a picture of Canelo Alvarez and tell me he’s not white. In certain areas of Mexico and South America, there are populations that likely have 90%+ of Castilian Spanish blood if given genealogy tests. However, I agree that it’s generally not this population that’s coming over the border because they generally make up the ruling classes of their respective countries.

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  The Greek
2 years ago

I’ve posted this before, but I never fully grasped what “Mexico isn’t sending their best” really meant until my firm did some work with the Mexican division of a US HQ’d company a couple years ago.

The top management in Mexico for this company all looked like they were straight from the Iberian Peninsula. As you say, those aren’t the folks streaming across the southern border.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The Greek
2 years ago

Something like 25% of Mexican nationals live and work in the USA. (We send school buses over the border to Mexico during the school year to pick up the kids born here to Mexican mothers. Go Figure.)

Mis(ter)Anthrope
2 years ago

The neo-cons now run the foreign policy of both the Democrats and the Republicans. The neo-con beliefs are a jewish created and dominated ideology. Yes, there are some neo-con nuts like Pompeo and Bolton who are not jewish, but they are merely carrying water for their jewish masters. As a white gentile American, the neo-con policies (jewish Troskyite policies) are clearly against my partisan interests. Therefore, according to ZMan’s statements in this podcast,, my partisan interests require me to support the prevention of jews from dominating US foreign policy. In today’s world, my partisan interests cause me to be classified… Read more »

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
2 years ago

I’ll say a prayer that you somehow, some way, can live with being an “antisemite”.

It is a burden we must all bear.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
2 years ago

I’ve been using counter-semite for several years.

This occasionally gives me the opportunity to explain the difference between being against Jews per se and being against their actions,

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
2 years ago

You underestimate the influence of gentiles within the neocons. The Cheney family has become the royal family of neocon war mongering, with Dick being the one that firmly solidified neocons within the state apparatus and mastering the military industrial complex grift.

Ruslan
Ruslan
Reply to  Mis(ter)Anthrope
2 years ago

How about re-defining ourselves away from any label “others” may want to impose on us or on people who may think as we do?

I label myself, if I have to, as “pro-truth” or “pro-clarity”.

wordly wiseman
wordly wiseman
2 years ago

Cannot have any other policy vs covid in the present demographic conditions. too easy and too tempting for the politicians not to exploit it.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
2 years ago

Musk. Like Jobs, Gates, Zuckerberg are all front men for the Kosher Nostra. Bullshit and lies, all of it. Honor and integrity are completely alien to the dickbiters. Their game is destruction, chaos and death.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Dennis Roe
2 years ago

Kosher Nostra

I’m sure I’ve seen it before, but I’m officially stealing it.

Dennis Roe
Dennis Roe
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

By all means, run with it. Bagel awareness is the new black.

Gauss
Gauss
2 years ago

The hypothesis that HBD guys like stats therefore they loved Covid doesn’t make much sense. Guys who loved stats were also eager to point out that the early predictions of the course of Covid (like that Brit Ferguson) were wrong about everything, even before Covid. Likewise, the idea that the HBD guys loved Covid because it put biology at the fore also doesn’t wash. Biology was also used to show that the Covidians were totally full of it. The biology can go either way. A better explanation of their insanity is emergent order, like flocking starlings. The HBD guys got… Read more »

Dinothedoxie
Dinothedoxie
Reply to  Gauss
2 years ago

There’s a couple of larger cultural factors / human nature that play a large role in the HBD communities CoVidiocy. First is apocalypse mongering. Many people love fantasizing that the end is near for reason …. CoVid scratched that itch for a lot of people. And if you think about it, the HBD crowd was already seeing the end. Second is the appeal of hidden truths. Secret knowledge makes the knower feel superior to the ignorant. CoVid fear, at least initially, was such secret knowledge. Which is one reason why all the “smart people” jumped on the train. And again… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Dinothedoxie
2 years ago

Apocalypse mongering is indeed a thing, but secret knowledge really is just a specie of emergent behavior. The first starling perches on the wire of perceived wisdom, then the flock takes note and follows. No one who lived through the madness ever again will or even should trust the herd animals who stampeded.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  Gauss
2 years ago

One thing I’ve noticed about stat guys, like Sailer and Taken, is that they almost never question the validity of the data they analyze. For example, Sailer takes PISA scores and the UCR stats pretty much at face value, with minimal criticism of whether the raw data is accurate. Consequently, if you give them a fake data set that strongly implies a very specific conclusion, they’ll pretty much accept it

Enoch153
Enoch153
2 years ago

“Thinking Russia is a multi-racial empire is insane!” Really? Zman, I take you less seriously now.

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  Enoch153
2 years ago

Perhaps because most of the non-Great Russian “ republics” split off in the breakup of the Soviet Union. However, still got a significant minority of Georgians, Armenians, Chechens, etc.
The former Union and Empire were definitely multi-ethnic.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Presbyter
2 years ago

Sorry for the poor source for this but it claims to come from the Russian 2010 census.

Russia is just over 3/4’s Russian with the next largest group being Tartars at less than 4%. Looks healthier than the US.

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The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Presbyter
2 years ago

Moscow has hundreds of thousand of Muslims.

Just Moscow.

Banana Boat
Banana Boat
2 years ago

My take on how the Ukraine War will end and its implications. Result: Russia will achieve her stated objectives, taking the eastern and southern portions of the country. However, this will be a Pyrrhic victory as Ukraine still won’t be properly demilitarized, and the US could slowly build the country up militarily to the point where they end up joining NATO in a few years. Russia might end up with an enemy on her border, which was the reason for the war in the first place. The war will represent a failure of Russian political leadership. They invaded with too… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Banana Boat
2 years ago

I need to re-read, and will do so tomorrow, but I agree with much of this (now) except Russia already had an enemy on its border and the pro-China elites seem on the ropes. Also, the US government is despised internally..

Again, too soon to upvote or doenvoye but seems right.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Banana Boat
2 years ago

Ok, re-read. The conclusion is.faulty. The United States basically is the only nation that doesn’t care about civilian casualties. Russia and the evil Putin do not want piles of dead bodies and have deliberately acted to avoid such. We are so accustomed to the US’s reckless disregard for killing that we cannot understand another country trying to avoid massive death. Putin may indeed be hamstrung by not seeking a high body count blitzkrieg such as the United States conducted in Iraq, but that will pay off when he begins to pacify and absorb Ukraine, contra what happened to the US… Read more »

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Banana Boat
2 years ago

You seem to think that Western Europe will still be economically functional “in a few years” it won’t.

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Banana Boat
2 years ago

“The war will represent a failure of Russian political leadership. They invaded with too few troops, to put it simply, and refused to take advantage of multiple incidents to call up more from the population (alternately, they could have abandoned efforts to spare civilians). Probably, the Kremlin didn’t want to admit it had made a mistake in their handling of the conflict. But had the Russians invaded with twice as many people, they could have saved themselves casualties and probably collapsed the Ukrainian government in the opening weeks of the conflict.” Amazing! I continue to be amazed at the number… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
2 years ago

It’s funny, just the other day I was suggesting that the way to deal with the Azov holdouts would be to seal them inside the tunnels like The Cask of Amontillado. My parents said I was just being an edgelord, yet today I read that Putin had the same idea.

Great minds think alike!

Rational Reader
Rational Reader
2 years ago

Covid was a serious health crisis. I know a lot of people who died during the pandemic. I thank the fast acting and thinking of our pharmiceuticomedical industry for ending the pandemic quickly and protecting us with vaccines. I know of zero people who suffered adverse effects from the vaccine, and I work in the health care industry. You conservatards have it wrong on this one. That’s why I’ve been looking to the left for guidance these days!

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

I completely agree. I for one am also disgusted with the lack of accountability regarding social media companies and their inaction when it comes to misinformation on the subject. I, too, am “Rockin’ in the Free World” with Neil against Spotify and its platform that allows the alt-right to twist the narrative. I disavow this social Dachau.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

Wonderful trolling. I suspect however, you were really dripping with sarcasm. In any event, thanks for a bit of humor in the day.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

Bullshit. Even if you are telling the truth–which I doubt–you know “a lot” of people who died WITH Covid, not from it.

Neon_Bluebeard
Neon_Bluebeard
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

WTF is “pharmiceuticomedical” and why are you such a retard?

Subudai
Subudai
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

You’re wrong, and you’re a grotesquely ugly freak.
Sneed.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

I guess Richard Spencer is commenting on Z now. Welcome brother, we can agree to disagree but I do miss the old Dick

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

I’m going to guess that’s pegging the old sarcasm meter.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Or it could be “ding” meet “bat”.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

See, this is the type of narrative twisting the OP was referring to that leads to white supremacy. I cannot help but notice that “Bartleby the Scrivener” was written by a white man who plundered native lands. We need to protect freedom of speech by silencing those racist voices that silence traditionally marginalized groups. Why do you not name yourself “Beloved” or “Sula” as atonement for your slaveholding, oppressive past and present? It’s this type of systemic racism that CRT addresses. We need to organize and make sure bigots do not control the school system.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Eloi
2 years ago

Slaveholding? Why, the only contact I had with the negro beast was when I was roaming the Great Plains of the West side of Chimpcongo. My compatriots and I would corral the lawbreaking ner do wells who were running amok and confine them in their natural habitat, a holding cell. I never ONCE had them pick cotton or work the fields for me. Shame on you, Eloi, for your slander. If I had a pair of leather gloves I would whack you across the face! (And as for bigots who control the school system, I don’t think anyone who is… Read more »

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  Eloi
2 years ago

This was said /sarcasm, if you did not realize lol (as I imagine rational reader was)

Semi-Hemi
Semi-Hemi
Reply to  Rational Reader
2 years ago

I too, look to the left for guidance. You know, double secret reverse guidance.

c matt
c matt
2 years ago

My rule of thumb has become . . . comfortably numb . . . kidding (but couldn’t resist). Seriously though, rule of thumb is if it comes from official government or MSM source, treat as false unitil proven true beyond all reasonable doubt. If some esoteric online source, wait until the “take” is confirmed by at least four other trusted online personas (Z man being one).

Or just go with Alex Jones’ take if you want to be 9 months ahead of the curve.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

One of most poignant guitar solos of all time. Comfortably Numb. White culture, even if David Gilmore would condemn my framing.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  LineInTheSand
2 years ago

Rick Beato’s breakdown of the song is fantastic: “What Makes This Song Great #104”. He agrees that the first solo is likely the greatest of all time.

Whiskey
Whiskey
2 years ago

Somewhat related, I think Musk is on to something with lack of qualified people. As Z-Man noted, airline pilots are not floating over the Rio Grande. Starlink is apparently a game changer for people in remote or sparsely populated areas, they get very good internet speeds both up and down. Musk’s main achievement is commercial space services which actually makes money. Look at the FEEBS and their clown show in Michigan. The FBI used to have lots of scary competent dudes who ran blackmail and other ops for J Edgar Hoover, and did other things. There was no shortage of… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Whiskey
2 years ago

Yep, being woke works fine—iff you can afford to hire your diversity candidate (token), and then hire a second—competent—candidate to do the work! Two for one—or is that one for two?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Whiskey
2 years ago

The West is being held together by the mid-40s to mid-60s demographic with some folks from the late 60s and early 40s sets pitching in as well. The Great Resignation seems to be real. This is because a lot of good folks in the demo above managed their spending and investments well enough to live on income and savings, at least until Brandon manages to make the inflation rate go infinite. There is something going on with jabs, but it is not so widespread and in such large quantity that the narrative spinners can’t cover it up with the usual… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

A lot of people don’t like Musk. They reacted to his wanting to buy Twitter like a vampire faced with a cross. Given who it was, that “says something right there.” As a famous troll noted. Twitter is widely believed to be a CIA project, with funding from various CIA/Intel sources, and various intel spook chiefs have publicly stated that Facebook, Twitter, etc. must be under SJW control to “control the narrative” or otherwise Putin will hide under everyone’s bed. Twitter seriously makes no money that I can see, and has enormous expenses to run all those servers in all… Read more »

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

My reply is in moderation because I mentioned the “Son of Big Guy” and that apparently makes it extra, extra naughty.

Sort of like Elon Musk these days.

Disruptor
Disruptor
2 years ago

Musks’s spacex owns starlink, a satellite based internet service provider. Twitter would make a great anchor client. A three in a row vertical integration play.

Memebro
Memebro
2 years ago

If you want a good laugh about the future of free speech on Twitter, read this:

https://www.upi.com/Voices/2022/04/22/Elon-Musk-Twitter-freedom-of-speech/8741650628552/

Free speech is only for marginalized people, after all. Right?

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Speaking of errors, The Science has resurfaced to proclaim that its decrees are the one and only law:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-fauci-decrees-cdc-should-be-above-authority-courts

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Hard to even comment on such arrogance and stupidity. CDC as ultimate “expert” argument aside. All decisions stemming from such departments that affect the people are in fact “political” decisions, and by definition outside (or should be outside) of unelected bureaucrats. These decisions must go through our political arm/process—Executive, Congress, Courts. This is really grade school stuff (when Civics was taught to me). The blatant confusion/misunderstanding of such order of authority shows how bad things are in our current governing structure. A good example of a governing structure “that got it right” was Sweden. Read up a bit on their… Read more »

B125
B125
2 years ago

Is Elon the next Trump? A billionaire saviour coming in and, being so desperate for allies, the “conservatives” lap it all up? To me it’s rich people doing rich people things, and having rich people drama. Saudi Sheikh billionaire wants less free speech on Twitter, billionaire Elon wants more. Rich person food fight. Would it be good for our side to have less censorship? Maybe – but it’s more likely that under “right wing” ownership, Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Gavin MacInnes, etc. will be allowed back on Twitter, but Dissidents will continue to be censored. Sort of like Parler –… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

seems that social media is innately toxic, so whom ever runs it is incidental.

Drew
Drew
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

“Would it be good for our side to have less censorship?” Probably not, at least in the current context. My main question for conservatives complaining about being kicked off Twitter is: who was having their minds changed by reading your tweets? Social media is not like a town hall, where every citizen is invited to weigh in on an issue, at length, with the goal of cooking to a policy that is mostly satisfactory to everyone. Social media is a middle Eastern bazaar, where attention is the currency and the loudest voices are essentially merchants. The inflated follower counts are… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

Elon Musk has 7 children and three wives? Well to me he seems less interested in raising children than in making them. His better bet in keeping the genetic White stock at a high level would perhaps be to open his own sperm bank, with him as the primary contributor. As much of an HBD proponent as I am, one must also raise children up correctly, which to me places a high value on family and home life. Otherwise, we might as well do as they did in the movie, Barbarella—let abandoned children grow up in the forest, and then… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Well to me he seems less interested in raising children than in making them

You know who else was less interested in raising children than making them? Ghengis Khan.

“Super Father” Genghis Khan has up to 16 million male descendants

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Jeez, and I thought it was my paternal grandparents who seemed to be trying to start their own race!

yo
yo
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Correct in your last sentence Compsci. They all live in his house. They are children of extremely ( I mean very) attractive white women (except for the third chick…who gave him the last child… to me at least). He was disgusted with the high end private school called Mirman (spelling?) in Los Angeles so he created his own school for them and for children of employees of his company. Currently, the school has 22 kids. He frequently posts videos demonstrating , to me at least , he is the main control in how they are raised. One may disagree with… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
2 years ago

You could still be right about Musk, though. I refuse to believe he’s anything but a globohomo product or that he’s some kind of champion for free speech.

The Greek
The Greek
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

He’s certainly not on this side of the divide, but it’s very probable that he does actually support free speech. He comes across as a classical liberal civnat. I just wonder if he’ll be black pilled when they come to destroy him. Leftist sites are now arguing that it’s a matter of national security that social media sites be allowed to censor the right.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Frankly, I think he’s a grifter. I’ll believe he’s a free speech advocate the day the Tesla pick-up truck ships or the day we have the hyperloop or the day the Model 3 starts selling for 35k Dollars or all those roofing shingle solar panels start selling. When Starlink goes bankrupt, we’re going to have to pay to clean up all the space junk. I think what he really wants is unload as much Tesla stock as he can and turn all that paper wealth into real money. Tesla is “worth” 4 times that of Toyota, 20 times that of… Read more »

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

If Starlink goes bankrupt (yes its possible) then the satellites will slowly de-orbit themselves over time

Musk isn’t actually involved in hyperloop, he said should have kept the idea to himself, its not really a new idea anyway

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

He’s going to insert 40,000 satellites into low Earth orbit EVERY FIVE YEARS. The current number of satellites in LEO is about 8-9,000. You can get global satellite coverage with two satellites in geostationary orbit, the only downside being a slightly longer latency. Bankruptcy is inevitable, it’s baked into a Ponzi scheme. StarLink kind of works right now, reportedly, but that’s when he’s got two customers per local satellite. He’d need hundreds of millions of subscribers for his numbers to make sense, and then bandwidth will drop dramatically. The big cities already have cheap hardwiring and the rural areas have… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Frivolously launching useless junk into orbit should be considered a crime against humanity.

Insert random female astronaut joke;

“Houston, we have a problem!”

“Odyssey, this is Houston. Please state the nature of the problem.”

“Never mind.”

“I’m sorry, Houston, I didn’t quite get that. Please describe the problem so that we may help.”

“Forget about it.”

“Odyssey, I’m not sure I understand you. Could you please tell us what the problem is?”

“You know what the problem is!”

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Right now they have 250K subscribers using about 2K satellites I have listened to plenty of people claiming Starlink and SpaceX are doomed, I can always spot huge mistakes in their SpaceX claims, they never really understand whats going on, I don’t know enough about Starlink but I suspect its the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxkE_oYrjU Watch that video, and count the mistakes, try to ignore the annoying voice, for a man who clearly doesn’t understand the subject, he is far too smug My guess is that long term Starling isn’t just a home internet service, Musk will want to expand it into… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Right now they have 250K subscribers using about 2K satellites

That’s 125 subscribers per bird. He’d need an order of magnitude more customers than that, and the ones he have now are the low-hanging fruit, the fanbois.

Musk will want to expand it into all kinds of other markets

What markets would those be?

And I didn’t say SpaceX was doomed, it’s got federal contracts propping it up. I said SL is making SX look like it has a bigger private market share than it does.

WJ0216
WJ0216
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Geo-stationary satellite internet is bad and expensive. I dont know much about Starlinks yet but if it could improve upon the sketchy costly Viasat that my company uses on remote facilities it would be a great thing.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

You can get global satellite coverage with two satellites in geostationary orbit, the only downside being a slightly longer latency.

Spoken like someone who’s never experienced geosynchronous satellite internet vs. Starlink.

The first time I booted up my Starlink router and experienced the difference, I got a little sand in my eye.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Frivolously launching useless junk into orbit should be considered a crime against humanity.

All the Starlink satellites are sized to burn up harmlessly on reentry.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

The sphere that hosts the Starlink satellite orbital plane has significantly larger surface area than the surface of the Earth. Each Starlink satellite is smaller than a car. If Earth had 2,000 total cars on it, would you say it was crowded with cars?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

The first time I booted up my Starlink router and experienced the difference, I got a little sand in my eye. If Viasat commissioned twenty more satellites you’d get comparable bandwidth (albeit with lag) but Viasat has to consider shareholders and such, so they’d have to charge the extra cost to customers, something Musk has avoided until now. As mentioned, the current customer base is 125 people per satellite. Your bandwidth will not stay the same when it’s 12,500, which is more like the number Musk needs for a viable business case. If Earth had 2,000 total cars on it,… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

If Viasat commissioned twenty more satellites you’d get comparable bandwidth (albeit with lag) but Viasat has to consider shareholders and such, so they’d have to charge the extra cost to customers, something Musk has avoided until now.

That’s just it. The lag is *everything* about the problem with geosynchronous satellites. The bandwidth on Viasat is already acceptable.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

I see. I don’t game and I’ve never been outside civilization, so I don’t know what lag feels like. Annoying, I take it?

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

“I see. I don’t game and I’ve never been outside civilization, so I don’t know what lag feels like. Annoying, I take it?” Not just gaming, anything that requires interaction is affected. Imagine you’re typing on an ssh (secure shell) terminal and with 700-1000ms latency it takes a second to get an echo back on every keystroke. It make much of my technical work and troubleshooting extremely painful and painstaking. It has subtle effects on all sorts of interactions. Many web-based apps behave oddly because they’re simply not expecting such latency. I used to do sales presentations over Webex/Zoom all… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

If they were moving at 12,000 mph? I’d say you need a lot more head space up to the next guy than if you’re travelling at a leisurely 120 mph (as we do here in Europe.)

Two objects moving at 12,000 mph are moving 0 mph relative to each other. Head space isn’t particularly an issue. Satellites don’t suddenly brake, and they’re not random, unidentified debris that something else could just unknowingly run into. The position of each is known and they can be deliberately de-orbited.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Not just gaming, anything that requires interaction is affected. Fair enough – I was joking with the last comment but if lag is an issue, it’s an issue, no argument. Head space isn’t particularly an issue Okay, picture this: you start two cars off in opposite directions. Moving at 12,000 mph they’d pass each other once an hour as they circumnavigate the planet, signifying a potential collision risk. If they move at 120 mph, they’ll pass each other every 100 days. That aside, the fact is that collisions happen regularly already and it stands to reason the risk will quadruple… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

Orbital debris sounds to me like a problem begging for better technical solutions, not an excuse to keep orbital space sparse.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
2 years ago

not an excuse to keep orbital space sparse.

Sure, space is there to be used. But 30,000 birds every five years? A few dozen or hundreds, okay, but orbit is a global common and the debris is an externalized cost that Musk foists on all of us.

You could clean debris with a powerful, ground-based laser: you light up the offending article on the forward face from it’s trajectory. The evaporation of surface matter or the simple pressure of the laser will slow it down and eventually drop it into the gravity well.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

I think it depends on when they go bankrupt. They are planning on putting up an enormous amount of satellites (30 thousand of them). Right now, including the 1400 Starlink has already sent up, there are only 6,542. I’ve heard they are selling the modems at a huge loss.

As far as Hyperloop goes, I know he said he wanted someone else to do it, but he still talks about it, or so I have heard.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

I’ve left you a reply with the modbot. I trust Z-Man will get around to it eventually, he usually does.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Or when you can travel from LA to SF in 35 minutes for $10 a ticket. Musk is throwing all these cons at the wall in hope that one explodes into another Tesla or SpaceX. I’m surprised he has any fans over 12 though, most of his schemes are comic book ridiculous. Buying Twitter is another con, because cons is Musk’s business. He’s already made a couple of billion dollars, so good on him. He’s not in it to sell you free speech because then all his money would disappear. Seeding near-Earth orbit with space junk is another matter entirely.… Read more »

Redpill boomer
Redpill boomer
2 years ago

One of your best ever! I have fallen into these traps many times. BTW have been promoting your show to anyone I think may be receptive.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
2 years ago

“The first batch of news and commentary is always wrong, so the hot take based on that stuff is almost always going to be wrong in important ways”

The outright lies coming from U.S media is alarming.

Today Russia found a secret operation by Ukrainians taking place in a residential building and arrested the Ukrainians.

Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGmwyc1LeE

Falcone
Falcone
2 years ago

I usually get a lot of stuff right as it pertains to politics and the culture but small consolation for getting women wrong

Dear wifey, I kid, I kid

I love and you have been great. Best thing that ever happened to me.

Compsci
Compsci
2 years ago

“They will have to climb back off that limb at some point and hope everyone forgets about it.” Forgive and forget is no longer an option for me. Everyone makes mistakes—but some more than others. It a world of lies, one only has their reputation to support their opinion/conclusions. In a world of verbal jousting as in Twitter, or even blog comment sections such as this, you need to be “right” with some frequency or be shunned. Unfortunately, we (myself included) often simply “double down” rather than “climb back off the limb”. Most people are not like Z-man can freely… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Imagine Jen Psaki at the kids’ school for parents day and someone asks her what she does and she says “I get paid a lot to tell lies into a microphone “

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

Unfortunately hot takes bring in the shekels. Whether the takes are bad or not seems to have no effect on this. Exhibit A: FTN 2.0.

But I sincerely hope Herr Doktor Johnson listens to this and sticks to what he is great at: philosophy, culture, publishing and sounding like a generally thoughtful man when talking in general terms about this thing.

For my part I am training myself to avoid some of our smartest people when it comes to pontification on topics outside their mastery…

Like Z’s repeated, unhinged assaults on Steely Dan, a band for all seasons.

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Vegetius
2 years ago

Z doesn’t want to do your dirty work, no more.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Vegetius
2 years ago

Hypothesis: No sane person has ever actually made it through an entire Steely Dan album.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

Sorry, I am with Vegetius here. I count myself as sane, and I have many times made my way through entire Steely Dan albums. I prefer their earlier albums on the whole; Can’t Buy A Thrill, Countdown to Ecstasy, Pretzel Logic, Katy Lied. The boys were deeply schooled in jazz and other popular idioms, and some respectful homage shines through from time to time, mixed however with their own stylistically sophisticated, but sometimes quirky sensibility. An example is from Countdown to Ecstasy, the song Your Gold Teeth. A recollection of a visit to an clandestine casino in Chicago where the… Read more »

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Ah. Countdown to Ecstasy. Of course.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

It’s a niche taste.

Jack Boniface
Jack Boniface
Member
2 years ago

Musk grew up in South Africa, which induced a realism America’s billionaires lack.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Jack Boniface
2 years ago

IDK, there are a lot of true believers even in South Africa, especially if you come from a family with money and can avoid the riff-raff. Though I don’t follow him really, the one issue I heard about him and “free speech” is his desire to allow certain women, motivated entirely by their hatred of men, to speak sensibly on the tranny issue. “TERFs” or trans exclusionary radical feminists only speak somewhat sensibly on this issue because they hate the fact that men in dresses are showing up their sisters in wammen’s sports or showing up in “women’s spaces” and… Read more »

Cujo
Cujo
2 years ago

One thought on Gell-Mann amnesia effect occurred to me as I was listening to the podcast this morning. I’m not an ID specialist or immunologist, but I have been practicing medicine for 45 years, and two years of covidiocy has pretty much made my head explode. That said, because of all the lying from the enemedia and TPTB, I now reflexively distrust anything they tell me about anything I don’t have personal knowledge of. Problem is, that’s little different from reflexively believing everything they say. With regard to Russia and the Ukraine, there are NO good guys in that tiff,… Read more »

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Cujo
2 years ago

“Problem is, that’s little different from reflexively believing everything they say.”

I don’t agree–and for one reason: They are habitual liars, and we have plenty of experience upon which to base that conclusion.

Besides, what people say is just that and nothing more: what people say.

All investigators know that.

You are on very solid ground.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Cujo
2 years ago

“Problem is, that’s little different from reflexively believing everyth” That is wrong. Until you quantify that disbelieving their preferred narrative is as uniformly wrong as believing it, get back to us. My first career was in the belly of the propaganda beast and it is far worse than you can imagine. Even outside the bias and propaganda, attempts at factual reporting are usually so rife with error that it renders the attempts at accuracy useless. In recent years, copy desks, the supposed brake on error, have beeneliminated. Even 30 years ago, reporters, an ironic job descriptionif there ever were one,… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
2 years ago

As someone with absolutely zero interest in or presence on social media, I’ve made no prognostications about Musk. Even if there was an ostensibly ‘fair and balanced’ type of Twitter, I wouldn’t use it. I comment here, perhaps more often than I ought, but my online presence is otherwise pretty slim. No google account, no you tube account, no patreon account, no kickstarter account, etc. I go out of my way to avoid all of that.
tl;dr: Not my circus, not my monkeys

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Musk is a difficult call for me. I’m always suspicious of folks who are touted as geniuses and soothsayers. His car company and product is the best, albeit Orwellian in nature (to me), but just about everything else he promoted is patently ridiculous—for example is underground tunneling to reduce traffic congestion in LA. Yet people “believe” because, well *Musk*.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

I wonder if some on the Right are making of Musk a god, just as those on the Left did of Steve Jobs.

yo
yo
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

It doesn’t take a genius to see that Musk is using the boring company as a way to test tunneling machines that will ultimately be used on Mars in the Valles Marinaris caves . Glass domes ARE NOT where the first humans will reside, but rather caves which would be much cheaper. He launched one of his cars into space and made a “joke” about it. He wants to get his Tesla cars on Mars and have them run on batteries charged by solar cells. Perfecting and producing a large scale solar cell factory on the taxpayer’s dime and Perfecting… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

I’m with you. I don’t get the appeal of having to deal with a million disagreements for everything you believe, which is all social media is. If you say you lie ice cream, that even causes a firestorm. It is ridiculous and a foolish way to spend one’s precious time. And what is the payoff? The attention? From strangers in God knows what kind of apartment or room they are typing from. I don’t get it. I even joined gab for example and quickly realized it isn’t worth the headache. And the way people talk online is unfiltered and lacking… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

Musk has started with a false premise. The entire purpose of Twitter IS censorship and propaganda. Its board and owners even admit it.

Think Trump claiming he wanted to reform Washington. From the perspective of D.C., all is well. Same with Twitter.

With you 100 percent on social media.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
2 years ago

I did very well during the Covid debacle. Mind you, that was a slam dunk. If you have a scientific mind, can do math and stats, and passed grade 11 biology…you’d have sorted that scam out within the first two weeks. The ‘Kraine is a bit tougher. So far I’ve shat the bed twice, badly. The first was the sinking of the Moskva. The back channels on Telegram were saying it was still afloat, that it was under its own power; or that it was being towed back to port…and I got suckered. Then there was the disappearance of Gonzalo… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

I haven’t got anything wrong since the Iraq war. Not bragging. It’s a curse to be honest

yo
yo
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

what did you feel would happen with 2020 election? The steal was a real black-pill eye opener for me… a checking out point of realizing that we will not vote our way out of this.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

The Duran guys seem to have the most recent contact with Lira posted this morning. In the meantime there was tons of misinfo swirling. Speculation he got capped by Azov, a Patreon video that seemed to be Lira stating he had a terminal heart condition that could have been a deep fake, and a few other oddities. Anyway, it appears the universe may have mercifully granted Lira a mulligan on being undone by the narcotic of minor celebrity. If the heart diagnosis is true and he gets out of Ukraine, I hope he makes a beeline to rejoin his wife… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Moral of this story is that having family and parents and associates who care about you and will go to the ends of the earth to protect you is one way to ensure the thugs don’t mess with you because there will be hell to pay. And the trouble often isn’t worth it.

Which is why I sleep easy knowing if the government goons ever mess with me they will have to deal with my family, and I pity anyone who has to deal with them.

Glad to hear Gonzalo is ok. But whew,, that was a close one

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

“If you have a scientific mind, can do math and stats, and passed grade 11 biology…you’d have sorted that scam out within the first two weeks.”

Well done, but “science” was *never* necessary to see the fraud from the git-go.

The obituary page in the local paper told the truth.

“There’s a global pandemic killing millions.”

Where?

“Somewhere else.”
(A woman at a local farmers market actually said that to me.)

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
2 years ago

“So you’re saying we have nothing to worry about here?”

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Yes

You have nothing to worry about.(with regards to the Coof)

Although, the elimination of the common flu was one upside. It was a miracle!

Your Government on the other hand, well…..

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

I was attempting to imply that should have been TIP’s response to the lady that believed the pandemic was something happening elsewhere.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  The Infant Phenomenon
2 years ago

Nonsense. Pandemics need time to propagate. People need time to respond to them. In the beginning all we heard was death, death, death – all “somewhere else”. Had it been a real pandemic it would need time to spread, and time for the hype and panic to subside. My spider senses were going off on day one too… but, as our blog host says…you have allow a grace period for the facts to be sorted out…or in that case… for the hoax to fall apart.

Maniac
Maniac
2 years ago

Funny how the far-Left has a newfound appreciation for free speech now that Musk may be at the helm of one of their favorite open sewers.

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

Well Twitter is a non-issue. Blab is the answer to Titter, the rude jokes alone are worth the trip. I usually lurk and seldom comment but I got in a bit of a pishing match with Vox Day’s wife. She is just the kind of turd brained chicken head you’d expect such a woman to be and I put the silly bint on mute after a minor exchange of pleasantries. No moderators, no fact checkers or time outs…which is the adult way of dealing with disagreeable people. I wonder why she started coming up in my feed? Blab does that… Read more »

Maniac
Maniac
Reply to  Glenfilthie
2 years ago

Stands to reason she’d be like that – look who she’s married to.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

That’s just it, they don’t have a newfound appreciation for free speech. Their entire gig on that has been that it would be a terrible thing for Musk to allow more free speech on Twitter.

The masks are fully off (much as they are on airplanes).

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

Just as they’re all about “our democracy” despite having brazenly stolen the last presidential election.

Marko
Marko
2 years ago

Elon was right about Twitter — 4 years ago. Now it’s just a hive of status chasers, normies, and crazy leftists. I appreciate that he wants to bring back the “town square” but if he gets what he wants, the cat ladies and dog moms will move to Reddit. Twitter will become another Parler.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

I thought Next Door was already the site of choice for the box wine crowd?

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

the cat ladies and dog moms will move to Reddit.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Maxda
Maxda
2 years ago

Musk will keep “trying” to buy Twitter as long as it is a lucrative deal for him. And he’ll have an exit strategy – pump & dump the stock, sue the Board for $billions – if it fails.

TomA
TomA
Reply to  Maxda
2 years ago

There are lots of ways to fight back against the Borg, and creativity is our birthright, so I support any means that ultimately succeeds. For example, Prince William of the English Royal Family got taken for a huge payday and his reputation destroyed by middle aged woman who turned a single photograph into a weapon of mass destruction. That had to be the world record payout for nukie and it hit where it hurts. There is also the recent news that black gangs in LA have begun targeting rich neighborhoods and focusing on fleecing the wealthy Progs that willingly support… Read more »

David Wright
Member
2 years ago

If Musk remains the enemy of our enemy there is some benefit in that.
Let’s make a distinction, Musk is very smart but is no genius. IQ is important but is one component. Z is right, he is smart and brash enough to game the system. His electric cars and mars enterprise are fun to watch but advance nothing. The man wants to put a chip in your brain, need I say more?

As far as Twitter, screw all that.

Wkathman
Wkathman
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

Gates, Bezos, and Zuckerberg represent the bad cop half of the technocratic elite; Musk is technocracy’s good cop. Musk comes off like a free spirit who just wants to make cool advancements (colonize Mars!). Nevertheless, he also claims that man will have to merge with machine to prevent AI from surpassing us. It has a strong whiff of sci-fi dystopia.

All of those big names I mentioned, including Musk, are likely just extremely wealthy front men for globalist technocracy. The real players prefer to operate from the shadows (for damn good reason).

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

Anyone graduating from U.Penn’s M&T program almost certainly has a genius-level IQ. You may not like Musk, but he’s obviously smart as a whip.

Agree that Twitter is a waste of time. Agree that he’s gamed the system, although electric cars may be useful someday when better battery technology gets developed.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

For those who thinks Z talks too fast, in most podcast or other audio apps you can slow down the track as well as speed it up.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Alex
2 years ago

John Derbyshire talks so slowly that I bet he’d be a good podcast for intermediate English students.

Z, on the other hand, is for native speakers only!

David Wright
Member
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

No offense to Derb but I have taken many a nap listening to him.

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

Which is why I prefer to read his stuff. He caused a bit of a kerfuffle over an April, 2012 essay in Takimag entitled The Talk, Nonblack version. I took to referring to him as Bertie Woostershire due to his sincere, Wodehousian perplexity over what the fuss was all about.

3 Pipe Problem
3 Pipe Problem
Reply to  Crabe-Tambour
2 years ago

In his defense, the Derb always endeavors to give satisfaction!

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

In his defense, the Derb always endeavors to give satisfaction!

That’s what Mrs. Derb said!

Crabe-Tambour
Crabe-Tambour
Reply to  Vizzini
2 years ago

HAW! Ha-HAW-ha! Derb/Bertie and Sailer are two of my go-to guys at Unz; they’re not as…interesting as some of the online outpatients (or inpatients) who post or comment there, but they do in their way contribute diversity of opinion at that site.

(((They))) Live
(((They))) Live
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

The Derb seems to be reading his podcast, the Z man is more free flowing

Glenfilthie
Glenfilthie
Member
Reply to  Alex
2 years ago

I think he does alright. The guys you want setting speed limits like this are the university profs. They have a lot of info to disseminate and no time to waste. Our blog host tracks very well with them. You have to pay attention to him the same way…if you go to sleep you can miss the point. I’d like to see my little Hitler Youth buddy and some of the hate-singers back again though. I also liked the explosions that separated the subtopics.

Another spectacular show, Z.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Alex
2 years ago

Just my $0.02, but I think the Zman’s speaking speed is fine.

Sand Wasp
Sand Wasp
2 years ago

Wether or not Musk is going to buy Twitter is probably irrelevant.

It has been embarrassing watching people suddenly think he is some kind of savior who is going to make everything right.

It is the same childish glee I see in people giddy that the Republicans are going to win the midterms, as if that is going to change anything.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

People are like children, or how do you explain DeSantos walking the political stage like a Colossus when he barely survived his last election. We need hero’s. True hero’s are rare, perhaps even rarer than geniuses. If they are in short supply we create them. All because we need “saviors” in these troubled times.

We had a Savior, but we discarded Him.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

“Barely survived” means “didn’t lose.” That’ll do, pig. That’ll do.

I don’t have many opinions about DeSantis one way or another, but I don’t see any point in criticizing him for pulling out a squeaker.

The only savior we had came back three days after we discarded him and was still willing to forgive us, so it’s all good.

Gunner Q
Reply to  Sand Wasp
2 years ago

It’s the floor show of watching Twitts cry about the loss of media control and demand more censorship that’s been making us dissidents giggle. They are not usually that honest.

You’re right, of course. One wants to like Musk for what he currently does but there’s just no way that his motivations & associations can be trusted. There’s a long con being played on us.

As with Florida’s DeSantis, they are showing us what we want to see. That’s a powerful lie.

Falcone
Falcone
2 years ago

My hunch was the Musk was serious because I think he has higher ambitions and Twitter to him would be what the Washington post is to Bezos. So it will be his very own and very large bullhorn. He might not run for potus, legally right now he can’t, but he does intend to run for something big. Or do something big like throw all his weight behind trump in exchange for a cabinet post perhaps My guess at least.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Falcone
2 years ago

Why would Musk put his weight behind that train wreck Trump?

Xman
Xman
2 years ago

“Certain groups of people who are dissident adjacent staked out a bad position on Ukraine. They will have to climb back off that limb at some point and hope everyone forgets about it.” That’s a bit cryptic, Z. Could you provide more detail? My own view is that IDGAF about Ukraine. Half my life it was a Soviet Republic. I couldn’t care less whether the Russians turn it onto a glass parking lot or not (they won’t). The entire Ukrainian boondoggle is the creation of the Deep State, the media, and the Military Industrial Complex. It is designed to make… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

yes, no teasing about names!

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

IDGAF about either Russia or the Ukraine. (I use the “THE” to piss off leftists just like I say Key-ev not KEEEV). But once I realized every type of “American” I loathe was somehow all in for The Ukraine I immediately went pro Russia. I have never agreed with these commies and anti American/anti White pigs in my life and I won’t start now. Besides, if they support The Ukraine I must be missing something really bad about it because they never support anything good for us from Covid masks and lockdowns to grooming 6 year olds for fags and… Read more »

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

It’s not a bad strategy. I read the drudge report and NRO and then think the opposite.

Sim1776
Sim1776
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

I was going to make this exact point. Whatever the MSM and Gov declare, I assume the opposite to be true.

I’m another of IDGAF about the Ukraine types but I do love the Russians giving Globohomo a black eye. Watching lefties beat the war drum for Satanist Galician Nazis is entertaining all in itself.

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(((They))) Live
Reply to  Hoagie
2 years ago

The Russian army is amazing, the MSM told me they ran out of food, ammo, and fuel way back in March, but still they fight on

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  (((They))) Live
2 years ago

Latest on the news is that mass graves are being unearthed with up to 9k bodies. Seems the Russians had enough ammo to shoot them and enough time to bury them. Can smoking crematoriums be next?

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  Xman
2 years ago

“It is designed to make the American proles bark like trained seals while ignoring a demented chief executive, 15% inflation, $5 gas and $30 trillion in debt while simultaneously advancing GloboHomo, enriching defense contractors and NATO grifters, and satisfying the bloodlust of the Tribe — who are, naturally, as thick as thieves in all of this.” True, but it’s a good deal more sinister and serious and dangerous than that. Good post. I don’t care about it either. By right, it we should not even be talking about it since “our” country has zero *legitimate* interest(s) there. You’re right: It’s… Read more »

(((They))) live
(((They))) live
2 years ago

I assumed Musk was looking for an excuse to sell more of his Tesla shares, he has to cash out at some point

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  (((They))) live
2 years ago

I go back and forth on Musk. I saw the rocket land upside down. I was impressed.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

That was indeed impressive—more so when one thinks of how NASA threw them away for so long as a government funded agency without much cost concerns. However, what is much less impressive is his touting of going to Mars and setting up sustainable colonies of humans. He builds a spaceship using basic technology from the 60’s and extrapolates to the immediate future skipping over the hard questions. For example, one such question I’m somewhat familiar with is a self sustaining habitat. Where I live, just a few miles away, is man’s first and (to my knowledge) only attempt to create… Read more »

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(((They))) Live
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

At best he will get a research base on Mars, something maybe as big as the Antarctic base, getting people to Mars is one thing, keeping them alive for years is another, food, water, power, its not going to be easy

You could see a large number of people on the Moon, its close enough for resupply, and plenty of people would love to go there assuming you can get the cost of the rocket down low enough. Starship would make a lot of interesting things possible

Member
2 years ago

“The Institute for the Study of War”, founded by and run by a group of people who never once fought a war themselves, much less won one.
We actually should be glad these idiots are running the latest war, as that’s probably the best way for them to lose it.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Pickle Rick
2 years ago

No question they will lose it. The danger is how much damage will they do in the process.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
2 years ago

if trump were really a player, he would have used the initial coof panic as an opportunity to take control of the msm. justify it as necessary to ensure uniform information delivery etc. of course he would have had to have prepared the ground for this by taking full control of the GOP first; which he manifestly did not do. a real amateur…

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

He did enough to inspire a military coup. Didn’t take much, but he did it.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

He should have sucured the loyalty of the special forces, the trigger pullers. Maybe asked for Texas rangers. Deputized them. Then, mass arrests of cia and fbi. Summary executions. Trump squandered the moment.

SwissGuard
SwissGuard
2 years ago

No worry Z – tu absolutus es a peccato

The Infant Phenomenon
The Infant Phenomenon
Reply to  SwissGuard
2 years ago

Plus a couple of indulgences.