Cloud People Blues

Note: There is a new post up behind the green door on nationalism. It is a response, of sorts, to this podcast on AmRen. For those looking for audio stimulation, I did an interview with a libertarian. May God save us.


The late Joe Sobran famously said, “In their mating and migratory habits, liberals are indistinguishable from members of the Ku Klux Klan.” Less famous writers have often pointed out that the American Left talks like MLK but lives like the KKK. Without exception, the white people staking out fashionable positions on race do so from as far away from black people as possible. Antifascists love Portland Oregon because it is one of the least diverse cities in the county.

This was always true. Sobran made his observation about the American Left forty years ago when the country was still 85% white. Thirty million South American tourists later and the Left may be even more sensitive this reality. On the one hand, they have become violent in their racial politics, but also extremely sensitive to the reality of race in the daily lives. Forty years ago, white race hustlers actually went to the ghetto once in a while, but now they stay as far away as possible.

This heightened contradiction could prove to be a fatal flaw for the sorts of race politics the political class has enjoyed for decades. The California elections show that left-wing white people have zero tolerance for their preferred race policies. San Francisco voters removed far-left District Attorney Chesa Boudin from office. The reason was he let black criminals loose on the city in the name of racial vengeance. It turns out that left-wing voters do not want black guys robbing their local Walgreens.

In many respects, the American Left is the reactionary wing of the old ruling majority of the country that is slowly fading away. Left-wing strongholds tend to be wealthy, orderly places where the managerial class enjoy a white nationalist lifestyle. The exceptions are the carve out areas for minority candidates. They will vote overwhelming for Democrats, often resulting in comic figures like Maxine Waters. The Mexican version of this tends to be more sober minded, but still firmly Democratic.

The white reactionary enclaves, like many of the areas in San Francisco, are mostly about maintaining the old 1950’s lifestyle. The people there want safe streets, good schools, fashionable living and they are willing to pay for it. In addition to the high cost of living comes a tolerance for boutique ideas. The social contract on the Left is they support novel political ideas, as long as they get to live like the people in the hit television show Madman, set in the 1950’s.

This is not just an issue for the Left. Most conservative politicians and leaders live in fashionably liberal areas like Washington and Northern Virginia. The deal Conservative Inc. struck long ago was that the middle-class white suburbs get left alone, in exchange for going along with the egalitarian fantasies about race. They get to scold their voters about race while making sure to never make the mistake of getting off on the Martin Luther King Boulevard exit to get gas.

The problem with this old arrangement is the digital world is a smaller place, so it is really hard to hide from reality. In the 1960’s, these crackpot ideas about crime took a decade to sink their teeth into the culture. America in 1968 was still fairly good for most people but by 1978 the cost of fashionable politics was too high. In this age, the cost started hitting home hours after someone explained the new bail reform policy in the Facebook group for the smash and grab community.

There is another twist to this. The effort to racialize the Hispanic vote is not going the way the politicians expected. It turns out that Mexicans are not willing to think of themselves as black or share politics with blacks. The whole “people of color” thing is not working with Hispanics, especially Mexicans. Unlike blacks, this group wants tangible results, especially regarding working class issues. They vote like the old white working class, that the modern Left still enjoys mocking.

It is not all puppies and sunshine for Conservative Inc. with regards to the changing nature of the Hispanic vote. The happy talk about them being “natural conservatives” was right but using the old definition of conservative. That is, someone who wants to live in an orderly white neighborhood where a man can raise a family. They are not interested in waging pointless wars of choice, handing out favors to corporate donors and treating the middle-class like a dumping ground.

It is turning out that the old consensus where the managerial class gets to live like it is the 1950’s and the rest of us have to embrace the post-racial future is not going to hold up for much longer. When the soulless bugmen of San Francisco are jumping off the racial vengeance ship, the consensus is untenable. Politics, regardless of the system, must be about fixing potholes and controlling the criminal element. A system that cannot do the basics is not going to last very long.

None of this should be taken to mean the end is near. Both parties are relics of a bygone era run by fossils with no connection to reality. Most white people have no representation in politics. Hispanics appear to be on the same path. These groups will vote for whoever seems to represent their interests, but it will not matter as both parties are controlled by the usual suspects. In the short run it means more Marjorie Taylor Green type characters and a rise in general frustration.


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Gman
Gman
Member
2 years ago

You’re on a lightning streak here, Z. Damn this was strong, short, and punchy.

The real Bill
The real Bill
2 years ago

Looking at human genetics, the biggest gap— the largest genetic difference among the various people-groups— is between sub-Saharan Africans, and everyone else. That is, between the descendents of the people who left out of Africa (50,000 to 100,000 years ago) and settled the rest of the planet, and the descendents of those who remained in Africa. That difference alone explains so much about the human variation we see today: The groups that left Africa were faced with an unending series of challenges, as they struggled to adapt to new environments. And it was the necessity of overcoming the novel difficulties… Read more »

The real Bill
The real Bill
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

Of course that’s overly simplistic:
SOME Progs are so stupid that they actually DO believe in the radical egalitarianism they’re required to affirm.

Jared Diamond who wrote ‘Guns, Germs, and Steel’ admitted in an interview that he came up with the concepts in the book in a deliberate attempt to explain Africa’s backwardness without resorting to race.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

Kind of have some respect for Diamond for writing something so coherent. The whole book can largely dismissed on the simple basis of “Africans be Africans”, but the torture of knowing the truth and writing otherwise had to have been awful. Or he was an extremely gifted bullshitter who got a lot of shitlibs to lighten their wallets for him. Oh yeah, pretty sure a Jew was involved somewhere.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 years ago

By “coherent” I mean it was actually readable.

The real Bill
The real Bill
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 years ago

Agreed.

But like so many ‘studies’ which try to explain various instances of ‘the Black-White performance gap’, he fails to consider the possibility that inherent (genetic) group differences are responsible.

In Diamond’s case, the failure is deliberate: he’s well aware of the theory, has already rejected it, and is scrambling to find some other explanation.

I give him points for creativity, and yes, for clarity of expression. But like so many liberals, he can’t bring himself to consider the ‘unegalitarian’ truth: that Africans are simply less highly evolved.

Kykey McHebe
Kykey McHebe
Reply to  Forever Templar
2 years ago

Diamond is indeed a tribesman.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

I’m pretty sure Jared Diamond realized there’s a lot of money to be made on the speaking circuit by telling people what they want to hear.

Hokkoda
Member
2 years ago

I’ve been joking that “Hispanic” is a made up racial category for 25 years. The government added “white, not Hispanic” to forms like the census back in the 80’s and 90’s. Keep in mind that these tourists generally fled countries run by South America’s various Leftist/Progressive/Socialist/Democrat parties. As such, they know exactly what the communists in the DNC and GOP have in mind for them and their kids. They also go to church and want no part of Disney and schools pushing child predators on them. The key to Trump winning in 2016 was “discovering” that fully 50-60% of America… Read more »

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  Hokkoda
2 years ago

He might already be “hung”. Hanged is a possibility. 😏.

Frip
Member
Reply to  Hokkoda
2 years ago

“Trump won, but it doesn’t change the fact that women are a huge problem because what is needed is cracked skulls not warm hugs.” But if we go back far enough in human history if we’d outlawed cracking skulls and inlawed warm hugs the world be better. Remember what that sweet lady told Terry in On the Waterfront. I don’t know. Terry thought she was full of shit. Maybe she was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHtJUWO7yeA&ab_channel=QueenMeshi

RoboFascist 1st
RoboFascist 1st
Member
2 years ago

Interesting to observe that moral gravity ultimately rules the day even in anti-Christ shitty world. Just because you don’t see it everyday doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. While hell, damnation and wrath are colorblind it turns out we actually suffer most from the variable speed of imbecility. Let us now argue about the types and cost of vehicles people drive to funerals in Chicago as another claim to inequality. As Joe Biden explains himself to America as the 21st century Henry Ford manufacturer and salesman of fake racism… he can continue to tell all the funeral suckers that … “You… Read more »

NateG
NateG
2 years ago

I don’t want to offend anyone but Democrat leadership view non-whites as pets. They treat them in a condescending way and speak of them as if they’re speaking about a child. Affirmative action and welfare are dog treats to make them obey and keep them in line. Republican leadership is not much better. Mexicans are slowly realizing this, but many have become addicted to fifty years of dog treats.

PGT Beauregard
PGT Beauregard
Reply to  NateG
2 years ago

I think everyone understands now that voting out Chesa Boudin isnt going to solve the problem.

He needs to be turned over to the cartels for one of their skin removing videos. Then his communist parents need to be dug up and reburied in an active landfill.
To encourage the others.

McCarthy was right, but he didnt go far enough.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  NateG
2 years ago

You are right that the Dems see blacks as pets but they have a more accurate appraisal of the capabilities of many blacks. Ending aff. action and welfare would mean a lot more poor blacks. Blacks and Dems understand this.

On this issue, the Repubs are more disconnected from reality than the Dems.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  NateG
2 years ago

They speak to them like children because blacks, for the most part, are in a constant state of childhood.

Goy DeMeo
Member
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
2 years ago

“Half child, half devil.”

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

I know.this is an outdated issue but I feel the whole mask issue has made me reconsider things. Like why would you need a law banning juggalo facepaint from public places when no one wears it to a non icp concert event On the other hand what if media/public health forces everyone to have juggalo face paint and even when they get rid of the mandate, you have 10-15 percent of people with juggalo facepaint in public and the debate is centered on should you have a choice to have juggalo facepaint or should you not. The question that never… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
2 years ago

The ceremonial mask is a constant reminder that I detest 1/4 to 1/3rd of the neighbors in my leafy suburban paradise.

It does give me an excuse to be overtly rude to them, so that’s nice.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  Mow Noname
2 years ago

I see the mask as a muzzle.

All women should wear them.

James J. O'Meara
James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

As the author End of An Era: Mad Men and the Ordeal of Civility (https://counter-currents.com/books/end-of-an-era/) I must point out that the series is not “set in the 1950’s.” It starts in 1960 (a key episode is “Nixon vs. Kennedy” set during the election night fraud). Rather than sinking into the 50s like a warm bath, the series traces the challenges to the 50s (race, kids, etc.) and the resulting changes in fashion. politics, sex roles, etc. OTOH, the show runners were aware of the fallacy of thinking that as soon as the ball drops on NYE, everyone says “Hey, it’s… Read more »

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

It’s been said that the “ 60’s” only really began after the Kennedy assassination.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

i feel like you can tell what particular year in the 60s it is by looking at the picture. 60-61 – pretty much indistinguishable from the 50s 62-63 – starting to look more 60s. Think of the ronnie spector look as an example 64-66 – depending on how you define 60s this is the most 60s part of the 60s with the flip hair in girls, the kind of shaggy rubber soul look in boys (although high school yearbooks were pretty clean cut until around 1972). This is the peak of first generation motown, sunshine pop, british invasion music and… Read more »

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  James J. O'Meara
2 years ago

The beginning of every decade belongs to the previous one. The early 60s were still Leave It To Beaver, the early 70s were still hippie dippie, the early 80s were still disco, etc.

Back then, each decade was unique. Besides the distinctive (and appalling) grunge fad of the 90s, I don’t see many differences between the last 3 decades.

Goy DeMeo
Member
Reply to  La-Z-Man
2 years ago

The ’90s to early 2000s was an aesthetic highpoint for the car world. The original Mark VIII, the Cadillac STS, the E38 7-series were all unique, elegant and timeless.

You can watch from the early 2000s as increasing .gov regs started choking out creativity, bloating and uglifying designs and leading towards today’s homogenous Gacy-clown-faced bug pods.

When you zoom out to the social level, similar patterns obtain.

Frip
Member
2 years ago

Zman: “Without exception, the white people staking out fashionable positions on race do so from as far away from black people as possible.” When you point out their hypocrisy Liberals have a ready explanation which easily melds with their worldview that all outcomes / behaviors are the result of one’s environment and what the dominant groups have done to those below them. So when you ask them why they don’t live near the ghetto. They tell you 1. It’s not because I’m racist. 2. Blacks aren’t inherently hostile. 3. You racists did and are still doing things to them that… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Frip
2 years ago

A case in point of this happened in Yonkers NY back in the mid-80’s over a federal housing case. The presiding federal judge – a guy named (((Leonard Sands))) handed down a ruling that put a large tract of low-income housing, smack dab in a mostly white, working class neighborhood and this, in turn, was going to tank local real estate values. It was to be obeyed, or the City of Yonkers would lose all of their federal funding. It ran on for a while and it looked as though the city council was going to call the feds bluff.… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Steve
2 years ago

The other tidbit I wanted to throw in here that has bearing on the subject of today’s essay is regarding the old “Imus in the morning” radio program. He used to have a couple of voice actors who could do great impressions of famous people on the show to do parody skits and one of the people they parodied was Richard Nixon. They did one skit of Nixon during the ’92 election and it was around the time of the DNC convention in NY and the money line of the skit was “Nixon” saying, “The Democratic National Committee, 20,000 drunks,… Read more »

HarryCallahanEsq
HarryCallahanEsq
Reply to  Frip
2 years ago

This is basically what’s going on underneath the gun-grabbing pseudo-controversy. Anti-gun types fixate on the easy solution— disarming docile whites — to avoid the impossible solution, the one they can’t openly speak of, to wit, stop-and-frisking all POC young men everywhere all the time. If you point this out to them, they claim clearly the white rifleman is a worse threat to little schoolchildren. Their wikipedia source is past media certification of Goodmayhem vs. Badmayhem. Pro-guns are a little dumber about it, seeking to resolve their “racist” cog dissonance by saying, no, everybody needs to be packing equally as God… Read more »

Spingehra
Spingehra
2 years ago

Can you blame them?
Many years ago overheard Black gay office manager say he never met a PR guy he couldn’t get with.
To this day Get queezy when dealing with any poc but especially PRs

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Spingehra
2 years ago

Puerto Ricans have a very unsettling acceptance of queerness. Putting aside the fashionable degeneracy of today’s pop culture, there’s no other ethnicity or demographic that embraces male and female homosexuality more than PR’s.

Howard
Howard
2 years ago

Z, what did you think of Greg Johnsons takes in the podcast you list above? I hadn’t heard him since Ukraine Russia started and found is takes insane. Seemed to suggest our nationalist future is someone tied to a CIA regime in Kiev winning and NATO being spread worldwide.

Brandon Lasko
Brandon Lasko
2 years ago

A little correction: The TV show was called Mad Men, not Madman

Brandon Lasko
Brandon Lasko
Reply to  Brandon Lasko
2 years ago

Furthurmore, its fictional time frame runs from March 1960 to November 1970, not the 1950’s.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

I don’t think that US Cloud People will find much relief if they flee to Europe; the very same policies concerning Diversity are wearing down the possibility of defensible white enclaves there, too.

The real Bill
The real Bill
2 years ago

The truth is, Blacks have never really assimilated. The liberal myth about them— “they only want a level playing field”— has been put to rest by the “racial reckoning”, which anyone can see is all about revenge against Whitey. That’s the (only) sense in which Blacks are interested in “getting even”. The resentment and antagonism they feel for Whites— which they no longer bother to hide— is quite obvious. As the “racial reckoning” gives them permission to be themselves, we’re seeing the results: rising rates of crime, violence, and murder. I was puzzled at first by the paradoxical fact that… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

The real Bill: It’s fairly simple. Charity inspires resentment. Envy + self-evident historical superiority = hatred.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

No good deed goes unpunished.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  trumpton
2 years ago

They should be kissing our asses that we didn’t ship them back to Africa where they belong.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

We should be kicking our asses hat we didn’t ship them back.

Yet.

Presbyter
Presbyter
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
2 years ago

One wonders how Lincoln’s historical reputation would have been if he had lived out his second term. Reconstruction would have been his and he seemed to have no trust in the notion of a biracial society.

The real Bill
The real Bill
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

“Charity inspires resentment”

True!

Every time they take that dole, they’re reminded of the difference between their failure and our success.

Goy DeMeo
Member
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

The truth is even less tractable. Sure, many ghetto blacks may be vaguely aware that they “ain’t livin like whitefolks”. But the reason Lil Killa and his crew are gonna beat you into a coma if you walk solo down their block isn’t because of the legacy of systemic injustice and oppression. It’s because they see your profoundly different physiognomy and out of their hindbrain bubbles, “he ain’t me, he ain’t kin.” It’s simple competitive exclusion: one subspecies running a competing subspecies out of its ecological niche, a Gorilla who sees a Bonobo. Even the best zookeeper can’t get panthers… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

Bill, excellent summary of the current situation. You’ve outdid yourself. Time for Whites to wake up or die. As Z-man notes here, the wild card in the race to White minority status—and subsequent extinction—is the rising increase in the Hispanic community. However, the current Hispanic community here, Mexican, still votes along racial lines for Hispanic grifters of low intellect. These politicians can’t rule a Taco stand, but are put in charge of a billion $$$ budget and their incompetence shows up in the statistics. Latest announcement is that about a third of the community is endangered wrt poverty and survival… Read more »

Lucius Sulla
Lucius Sulla
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

While things have seemingly gotten better for blacks over the past several decades as you describe, their actual outcomes in terms of economic security/wealth and family formation have declined significantly. I tend to think of blacks like dogs. Dogs crave discipline, hierarchy, and knowing their place. Humans providing such clear structure and boundaries for their dogs leads to a happy, well-behaved dog and a happy human. When dogs are given too much freedom, not put in their place, and do not know who are their masters, they are confused, run wild, are out of control, and end up causing real… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
2 years ago

Separation is better. Enough with this “good intention” clown show where it’s all a one-way street.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  fakeemail
2 years ago

fakeemail: Exactly. They are not our responsibility to either discipline or uplift. Total separation.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
2 years ago

No, we don’t need to do anything for them. Let blacks be black and whites be whites.

It’s not our job to make all the other races act more like us. Whites need to stop feeling responsible for the rest of the world. We are only responsible for our own people.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
2 years ago

Very true for women, too, though I believe that the ladies are more amenable to structure than the Vibrant.

The real Bill
The real Bill
Reply to  Lucius Sulla
2 years ago

Lucius,

Immediately following WWII, indices of Black success and prosperity were all on the rise: rates of employment, home ownership, car ownership, and stable two-parent families were all increasing.

What changed all that was Lyndon Johnson’s ‘War on Poverty’; which ushered-in the “entitlements” system we have today, and the generational welfare dependency that characterizes it.

Far from ending poverty, “entitlements” guaranteed that it would never go away.

Rowdy Moody
Rowdy Moody
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

“I was puzzled at first by the paradoxical fact that the better things have gotten for Blacks, the angrier and more dissatisfied they’ve become.”
I think that is something people do no matter what. I used to travel to various manufacturing facilities large and small, from mom and pop owned operations to huge facilities like paper mills. I found the more well off the workers, like those at the paper mills, the more they complained they were getting screwed.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Rowdy Moody
2 years ago

Probably big enough mills to have a union administered by people to whom the cultivation of grievance culture is like breathing; they just have to do it, and they benefit from it directly.

Rowdy Moody
Rowdy Moody
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Very true. I have never been to a paper mill that wasn’t heavily unionized. Some had as many as a dozen different unions and yes the union reps did encourage that environment.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Rowdy Moody
2 years ago

The black conservative scholar Robert Woodson had a term for the culture of complaint in the wake of civil rights legislation and the limited progress that was to follow. Something like the tragedy of liberation or something like that; I haven’t found the exact phrase. Anyway, at the Post Offices where I worked, there was no shortage of grumbling, which was usually directed at the line supervisor, the most hapless functionary in the Postal Archipelago. This was encouraged in Our Great Union’s magazine, which was replete with tales of woe from our Branch presidents and stewards. I had my complaints,… Read more »

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

“Rather, it’s all about Blacks’ long-buried desire for revenge, for “paying Whitey back” for all the wrongs White people are accused of having done, in their ongoing effort to “keep the Black man down”. Blacks will not be satisfied until Whitey has been “put in his place”, subjugated, just like they were.”

Remember, remember, the history of Haiti!

Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Nick Nolte's Mugshot
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

Haitians live in what is probably the most dysfunctional nation on the planet. They kicked Whiteys ass 200 years ago but the ultimate result was a country that makes Detroit look like Switzerland by comparison.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Nick Nolte's Mugshot
2 years ago

They didn’t “just kick Whitey’s ass”. They exterminated them. This is what happens when you let blacks out number you about 18 to 1.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

That’s right. Relate any example where Blacks were given the whip hand where this did not happen. I can’t recall one

The real Bill
The real Bill
Reply to  Anonymous White Male
2 years ago

AWM:

Indeed! When you read about the situation in Haiti prior to the Blacks taking over and committing virtual genocide on the White ruling class, you’ve gotta wonder: ‘What in the heck were those White people thinking?’

Did it never occur to them to wonder what would happen if the Blacks got it into their heads to revolt?

Apparently not….

Are there any lessons in that, for us Whites in modernday America?

TomA
TomA
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

None of us got to pick our parents, so I don’t blame anyone for a heritage that they had no choice over. At the root, the Negro race was adapted to the African mid-continent over tens of thousands of years and is simply misplaced in the mid or northern latitudes. They fail here because it’s the wrong environment for them. It’s also not their fault that they are here today. That crime was committed against their ancestors long ago. But we are where we are. The best outcome now is to self-segregate into compatible communities and make the best of… Read more »

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

Assimilation has always been a myth. Even when the English language requirement for citizenship came in 1906, the people pursuing it dropped to ~40%. People wanted to be *in* America for economic reasons. They did not want to be *American.* Same as it ever was.

jpb
jpb
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

The blacks who do well are on the right tail of the IQ bell curve. Blacks cannot thrive in a modern society with an average IQ of 83, while white Americans have an average IQ of 103. Race difference denial is the root of black resentment, they are told by the race hustlers their failure is due to white racism, when in fact, it is the result of low abstract intelligence.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
Reply to  The real Bill
2 years ago

At the end of the day, they’re angry, bitter and miserable because, well, they’re black.

You would be too.

Just look at Mike and The Magic Negro.

President? Check
Millionaires? Check

And always with a scowl on their face.
All because, they know who they are.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
2 years ago

I noted that liberal democracy and communism have the same goal, to make everyone the same.

I realize today that they both have the same results, too: malinvested economies, ugly architecture, and depressing culture!

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

Alzaebo: Oh, but they have achieved what you noted was their goal (making everyone the same). Check out any ad or photo from the past 10 years – skin whitening cream, make up, and lighting are used to minimize the real-life visible difference in black and White skin tones. The White women with real or fake tans versus the blacks with hair extensions, nose jobs, and artificially lightened skin. Only one example but there are dozens – recent pictures of Wendy Williams versus a decade ago. The difference is striking and very visible (i.e. black versus White skin) in real… Read more »

Xman
Xman
Reply to  Alzaebo
2 years ago

“I noted that liberal democracy and communism have the same goal, to make everyone the same.”

Indeed — the democratic United States allied itself with Stalin’s communist Soviet Union to defeat Uncle A…

usNthem
usNthem
2 years ago

Where the rubber meets the road, Mexicans/Hispanics have a hell of a lot more in common with Whites than blacks, pajeets and others from narrow eye Asia. At some point in the future, blacks will find themselves back at the bottom of the pile, literally and figuratively, right where they belong. And if the bleeding hearts don’t like it, tough s***.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

the nigs won’t even be in the pile, at that point.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Ah, but thanks to The Great Replacement, and the loosey-goosey border, we’re getting resupplied, straight outta Africa.

SidVic
SidVic
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

A Liberian killed that Daisy girl up in Fargo ND. Why was he in the country? They looking to get him off. 250K readers? wow. I’ve also noted that this comment board seems to tame everyone. Although, I’m proudest of my comments were i split the up and down votes evenly.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  SidVic
2 years ago

I would add The “dreamer” that murdered the Cree family that stopped to help him on the side of the road. There are many stories like this. W/ regard to your handle: we were told that Savile was a good guy and Johnny Rotten was a reprobate. LoL!

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

If one studies the Southwest past, White settlers lived along side Mexican. There is a long history there. Not everything was roses, but the greater combination of Spanish blood with a the native Indio is a hell of a lot better than the admixture of American Blacks. South American Indios had a far superior culture and understanding of technology than anything out of Africa, albeit some horrendous proclivities to ritualized violence.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Compsci
2 years ago

IIRC, Mexico continued paying a bounty for American Indian scalps until Indians became citizens in 1924.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  usNthem
2 years ago

usNthem: Sorta. Some of them with the heaviest European admixture. And some of the more heavily mixed who still aspire to European values because that’s the upper class in all their native countries. A Mexican neighborhood may not be as deadly dangerous to Whites as a black one, but many of us would not be happy living there (the noise, the trash, etc.). Less alien racial proximity is not the same as historically White European. Notwithstanding Matthew McConaughey’s recent virtue signaling, Uvalde Texas is essentially Mexico. In racial reality, school achievement, behavioral patterns, etc. And yes, the differences in toto… Read more »

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

My Scandinavian dad married my blonde, blue eyed Italian mom. My wife is North Sea Baltic.
My children look like their grandparents, great grand parents and great great grandparents.

My brother married a southern Italian. No blue eyes or Scandinavian looks for either of his kids.

I like Mexicans and Latin Americans as individuals. But unless my son’s bring home one of Cortez or Ponce de Leons great granddaughters, I’m not going to be pleased if I never see my parent’s eyes in my descendants.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mow Noname
2 years ago

That’s race mixing and I tend to agree. But to even interact on a life scale with Blacks is the story altogether.

B125
B125
2 years ago

The demographics aren’t there for white suburbia anymore anyways. It’s not 1980. New suburbs everywhere from Houston, to Dallas, to Seattle, to Atlanta, to NJ, to SE Michigan are mostly non white, mainly Indian and East Asian people. The white suburbia fantasy died 20 years ago in Toronto, the only “white” suburbs left are protected by Greenbelt zoning which prevented much expansion, or on the economically disadvantaged rustbelt side of the city. Greenbelt is being paved over anyways and massive housing developments are going up beside every white town and suburb within an hour. I also think the live 50s… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  B125
2 years ago

B125: Spot on and well said.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Interesting take. White affluence indeed is inverse to diversity but that will become harder. As I responded to someone else, the Boudin recall is a desperate and futile cry from leftist virtue signalers. While these types do intend to federalize diversity to areas other than their own, the ability to do so will die with the White-dominated Administrative State. Soon as President Shanika Washington and House Leader Raj Patel get the numbers, White leftists will find Section 8 springing up in San Luis Obispo and Beacon Hill, which will be upheld by Judge Lin Hu and rubber-stamped by the Chief… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Technically, I don’t think she can become Chief (can we still say that?) Justice unless she resigns her current associate justice seat and gets nominated for CJ and confirmed. we may, instead, get blessed with another wise Latinx CJ.

Soda Mayor must be the happiest one up there – they now have a justice dumber than she is.

krustykurmudgeon
krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  c matt
2 years ago

Rehnquist was an associate before he became chief. But the difference is you have to go through the process again to become chief.

We Hate Everyone
We Hate Everyone
2 years ago

Speaking of interviewing libertarians, I think it be really cool to see Zman interviewed by Pete Quinones. He was a standard anarcho type before the manufactured plague, and has done a complete 180 on his libertarian views since. He’s even been very open about White replacement. And no offense to whoever the guy who interviewed you Zman, but Pete has some actual name recognition.

Regardless, I’m always down for a Zman Interview!

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2 years ago

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MBlanc46
MBlanc46
2 years ago

Mexicans vote like the old white working class. That is, Democrat.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  MBlanc46
2 years ago

Funny that the Tampa Bay Rays players who didn’t wear the rainbow prolapse were Hispanic.

yo
yo
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

And because they are Hispanic, they weren’t brutally ostracized, if not suspended. Their gesture was brushed under the rug as quickly as posslble. “nothing to see here folks”

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Jason Adam. Jalen Beeks. Brooks Raley. Jeffrey Springs. Ray Thompson. Who am I to say? Beeks seems to be the only one that might possibly be Latino heritage.

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Which ones? Jason Adam? Jalen Beeks? Brooks Raley,?Jeffrey Spring? Ray Thompson?
I don’t understand. Maybe you have their family trees sketched up on your wall?

RoBG
RoBG
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

And my comment pointing out this absolute untruth and absurdity has gone into moderation. Look up their names and biographies for yourself. It’s easy. Jason Adam, Jalen Beeks, Brooks Raley, Jeffrey Springs and Ray Thompson.

TomA
TomA
2 years ago

I don’t think DC can keep the plates spinning much longer. People are maxing out credit cards in a futile attempt to maintain their standard of living and that’s like eating the seed corn, it can’t go on forever. The problems in our society are now myriad, but all of that becomes a sideshow when you go 3 days without a meal. Waiting on November to right the ship is dangerous delusion. The new Congress won’t seat until late January next year and will simply be in deadlock with the dementia patient. By the time 2024 rolls around, a dozen… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

An acquittance was of the mind that “a couple Federal elections will clear this up!”
I didn’t give him any grief as he probably won’t live long enough to see such elections (with him saying as much himself).

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

Everyone forgets that the Republicans love to be the opposition party. They can posture and preen when it doesn’t mean anything. But the second they get power, they are really only marginally different from the Democrats and only on a few select issues.

Everyone predicting a red-wave in November forget what that really means. It means more of the same.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

The RINOs/GOPe love pretending to be in opposition because it pays extremely well and the only effort required from them is constant shaming of their voters about hard work, accountability, and their European heritage.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  TomA
2 years ago

We are inundated with nonstop crises that are wrecking poor and working class people and we have the clowns in D.C. spending their time with Gun Control legislation. It’s not even Gaia worship at the heart of it, but the complete incapability to think of a solution not fed to them by D.C. Think tanks.

The first person who proposes an “inflation subsidy” of 2 grand per person while paying for it by raising taxes on 250k+ individuals, it would be instant 70% approval. Shapiro will shout “muh socialism” but no one will listen.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

I want to push back a little on the Gaia worshippers.

Everything they are doing serves to make energy and food scarce and expensive.

To me, their actions appear to be a death cult engaged in the process of mass human sacrifice.

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Of course it is a death cult. Getting rid of the over 40s – how many devotees of Gaia have over two kids? Virtually zero. That is the firmest, quantified proof of the death cult.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Eloi
2 years ago

As also in Old Europe, where far too many of the “leaders” have no children, hence no emotional connection with a future for their own progeny to guide them in framing their policies.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Assuming climate change is at least partially real, what do we do about it? I tend to stay out of the debate. I know a lot of the people pushing it are using it as an excuse to push things they were already pushing before they ever heard of climate change. But the fact that people are grifting on it doesn’t mean it’s not real. Though I don’t have strong opinions, I tend to think climate change is probably a serious problem. The really sad part is if it is serious, we are SCREWED. We are led by children who… Read more »

Xin Loi
Xin Loi
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
2 years ago

Climate is a regional, not a planetary, phenomenon – but its history is one of constant, relentless change which uprooted and on occasion exterminated whole human populations. That it still goes on is unremarkable, and the notion that we control or even could control it is a fantasy.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Not even sure a subsidy would be needed. Simply stop sabotaging what remains of our productive industries.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Silly rabbit.

We don’t pay for things by raising taxes on anyone to pay for things. We just print money!

(See: Ukrainian Lethal Aid Bill for $50 billion)

Which, of course, IS a tax on everyone as the value of the dollar decreases yet again. Political gold though.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

Chet: Interesting supposition – but any subsidy must be limited by race and marriage status before I could support it. Let the blackish movie ‘stars’ and affletes pay for dey own baby mommas. Let the Silicon Valley han and pajeets pay for their own new immigrant ‘poor.’ Whites ought to take care of their own regardless.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Chet Rollins
2 years ago

We don’t need to “tax” the rich. We need to take ALL OF IT and thrown them in concentration camps and that’s if we’re in a good mood. I mean all of it and all of their relatives (3 generations, them, their parents, their siblings and their children, because you know they have money hidden among these people). I do not oppose rich people in any way shape or form. People who genuinely make our lives better by being more productive should be handsomely rewarded. For every success there are hundreds or more of failures. The reward needs to be… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
2 years ago

Those who praise diversity the loudest are the ones who can most afford to avoid it.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
2 years ago

Ever hopeful, but I’ll feel good about it if/when Protestant churches stop preaching Judeo-Christian suicide on the cross. That would be the shot heard round the world.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

Not going to happen, unfortunately, because the entire ministry of most churches has been converged, often by women…So most churches are dying because they are preaching insanity…

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 years ago

Yes. The faith is killing itself to ‘save the world.’ Everybody’s doing it, except those uncool nazi white supremacists.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Paintersforms
2 years ago

You rarely hear about that time Jesus told his disciples the time was coming when they would need buy swords. Luke 22:36

Melinda
Melinda
2 years ago

Great post. Your recent interview with the Nino guy was excellent, as well.
Today marks the anniversary of the USS Liberty attack. 70% of the crew sustained injuries and the US government refused to assist them. They waited for over 18 hours for help, all the while worried about the ship sinking. Every year there are fewer and fewer survivors who gather to remember.
They are reuniting today at noon in Arlington cemetery, section 34.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Melinda
2 years ago

Melissa, not Melinda. Crazy typo.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Melinda
2 years ago

This is a good red-pill triple whammy, as it involves:

1. Israel being our greatest ally.
2. The U.S. Government covering up and getting its own troops killed
3. John McCain’s Daddy being a psychopath.

It’s the shallow waters before getting into more firmly intrenched modern mythologies.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Melinda
2 years ago

Melissa: Thank you for the reminder. Early sacrifices on the altar of the Judeo-Christian heresy.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
2 years ago

“the cost started hitting home hours after someone explained the new bail reform policy in the Facebook group for the smash and grab community.”

I spit my coffee out laughing at this. Very insightful, as always.

These virtue signaling policies like low/no cash bond used to mean nothing other than talking points. You’re 100% correct that criminals know it and take advantage of it almost instantly.

AntiDem
AntiDem
2 years ago

The old mafia used to have a saying: “Never shit where you eat”. It meant, among other things, that one place you could be sure you wouldn’t have your car stolen was the neighborhood where the Don lived, and the one school you could be sure you’d never find drugs being sold in was the one where his daughter went to school. Up until the early 10s or so, leftists had just about the same attitude, and so places like Marin County or Westchester were clean and safe. But about the time that Social Justice became really fanatic, that’s when… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

Back when I was living in Philly, I talked to a retired cop at work. He told me Italian Market was the safest part of the city in his day, that the cops barely bothered patrolling it. Here was a lawman expressing admiration for mafia justice. It made an impression on me.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

Isn’t that what got Boudin recalled in SF?

Weren’t his lunatic policies were so bad they actually materially affected the Cloud People?

I am sure SF will quickly appoint a replacement that will ensure only the Dirt People are kept down.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Correct, WGH. The Clouds, though, will lose control of the Administrative State in due time and no longer will be able to keep their enclaves segregated and force diversity only on Dirts. I look for American Clouds to flee the cities to rural areas first, and eventually to leave the country entirely for the cultural sophistication of White enclaves in European cities that currently mirror their lifestyle in the United States. It would be nice if European Dirts could stop it, but they have no say in their governance, either.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

Jack-

I believe the American Clouds who flee to Europe are in for a very rude awakening as the lunatic Green energy policies implode Western European economies and the fecund Ummah grow restless.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

they are not going to like having their assets taxed at eu levels, either.

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

@karl

The elites in Europe don’t pay taxes.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

@WGH:

It is still a great country. The in-migration from here and other once mostly White countries are driving up the cost of living, though. It is still comparatively cheap to stay and travel in Portugal, but for the love of God they are letting vipers into there. I see it becoming like Spain, which is Cuck Central. I’m going there in a few months and have been warned to expect a noticeable change.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

I don’t think that US Cloud People will find much relief if they flee to Europe; the very same policies concerning Diversity are wearing down the possibility of defensible white enclaves there, too.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

You probably are right, but the Clouds see a reflection of what they had here. Significant numbers are going to Portugal now, for example.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Portugal, incidentally, being the least enriched country in Europe by quite a substantial margin.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Jack-

Yes, what a tragedy for Portugal.

The cost of living there is so low I can remember buying good bottles of wine at the supermarket on Madeira for 2 or 3 euro.

All the wealthy Amero-Clouds are going to seriously distort that situation.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

D
Felix Krull,
Recall that Portugal had several major colonies filled with Africans, and a former colony of Brazil chock-a-block full of descendants of former African slaves. Living cheek by jowl with them likely instilled some reality anout the desirability of living cheek by jowl with said Africans. They seem to have avoided the mistakes made by the British or French in throwing wide the door to immigration from former colonies.

Mow Noname
Mow Noname
Reply to  AntiDem
2 years ago

I’ll agree with you when the rich liberals in Lincoln Park/ Lakeview areas of Chicago vote out Lightfoot as mayor.
Free elections are allowed in Chicago primaries, as 100% of the votes are for Democrats.

My Comment
Member
2 years ago

San Francisco is a good example of why the forced diversity racket is being federalized and is focusing on moving vibrancy away from cloud people’s areas to dirt people’s areas.

That is also why they are trying to set the stage for a federal police force that will stamp out troublesome local legal obstacles like the elected sheriff’s who mistakenly think they are supposed to work for the people who voted for them

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

“San Francisco is a good example of why the forced diversity racket is being federalized and is focusing on moving vibrancy away from cloud people’s areas to dirt people’s areas.”

True, and it will fail massively. Being able to federalize carved-out White progressive enclaves, which is the goal, requires a White-dominated Administrative State. That soon will be toast. I expect places such as San Francisco, Marin County, and eventually Georgetown and Oxnard Hills to be targeted and destroyed within the next decade.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
2 years ago

The single greatest force for assimilation into American culture is living near blacks.

Anonymous White Male
Anonymous White Male
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 years ago

Don’t you mean, “The single greatest force AGAINST assimilation into American culture is living near blacks.” It follows the principle of “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.” Mugged by a negro, but that would be impolite to point out. Of course, it goes without saying.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 years ago

I don’t know about American culture–unless you’re referring to that balefully white and beautiful thing that began dying in the 60s–but it’s certainly the prime imperative for race realism.

It was for me.

Up until 2010 I was basically a Griller when it came to race. Then a Hutu pack moved into the rental house across the street. As quickly as possible, I fled to a 90-percent white nabe with few rentals, began taking an extremely dim view of the immaculate African-Americans, and I haven’t looked back since. If it happened to me…

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 years ago

What’s the one word, begins with ‘n’ and ends with ‘r’, that you never want to call them? Neighbor.

David Wright
Member
2 years ago

‘’They get to scold their voters about race while making sure to never make the mistake of getting off on the Martin Luther King Boulevard exit to get gas.”

Not Senator Stabenow, she blew by that exit with her high priced electric car.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  David Wright
2 years ago

Her car only cost $3k more than the median family income for the state of Michigan.

C’mon man!

AntiDem
AntiDem
2 years ago

“…the hit television show Mad Men, set in the early 1960s.”

Maniac
Maniac
2 years ago

“It turns out that Mexicans are not willing to think of themselves as black or share politics with blacks.”

Rumor has it that the Mexicans don’t particularly care for blacks, especially in big cities like Los Angeles.

It also turns out that many Hispanics in general don’t care for the term “LatinX,” which was conjured up by guilty White Liberals who think all minority groups should think and act alike. Judging by recent voting trends, a lot of minorities are waking up to the fact that Democrats view them as pawns and cogs.

AntIDem
AntIDem
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

The LA of the early 90s – of Friday, Boyz n The Hood, and Grand Theft Auto games – is long gone. A lot of quiet ethnic cleansing has gone on. Modern Compton is Mexican, not black. Black neighborhoods shrink every year. Where do they go? Who knows? Who cares? They’re not missed.

Tykebomb
Tykebomb
Reply to  AntIDem
2 years ago

This is why Ron Unz can counter signal white nationalists. Importing Mexicans into SoCal improved the black areas.

It’s a weakness of the American mind that we conflate “gangs”, “crime” etc. with blacks and don’t appreciate that Hispanics can build civilization. It isn’t good, orderly North-Western European civilization but it’s not Africa.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Tykebomb
2 years ago

“It isn’t good, orderly North-Western European civilization but it’s not Africa.” I’ve been living for the past 18 years in Argentina which while less orderly than a NWE society is nonetheless a pleasant one in which “racial” issues are for all practical purposes non-existent and no one in my village or acquaintance writes “Latinx” much less says it aloud. Not allowed at grandkids’ school (private) either. Nor the “pronouns”. I grew up in the 50s in NYC and then-quasi rural partially suburban environs (Fairfield County, CT) and this place has a certain similarity in vibe, although more laid back, so… Read more »

trumpton
trumpton
Reply to  Montefrío
2 years ago

Does Argentina still have the wealth tax?

.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Montefrío
2 years ago

they have chronic problems with their currency valuations.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Montefrío
2 years ago

Montefrio: I don’t doubt your personal circumstances BUT . . . demographic trends for Argentina are not particularly encouraging. Vast numbers of Indios from elsewhere in South America, Haitians, etc. now call Argentina home. And I do dispute that culture and education count more than racial genetics. Those of the population who are more racially mixed may aspire to more European values, but that is an economic aspiration to upper-class living rather than a natural inclination to share those genetic-based cultural values.

La-Z-Man
La-Z-Man
Reply to  Montefrío
2 years ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Argentines white?

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  AntIDem
2 years ago

I wonder about this often too. I think we’re starting to see them invade the white suburbs because of “equity”. I always put that word in quotes because it is ridiculous.

I’m starting to see them all over my neighborhood now. I also wonder if we will ever run out of them. The rate they kill each other is astonishing. Isn’t there a light at the end of that tunnel at some point?

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Tired Citizen
2 years ago

There enough surviving bucks to impregnate many does.
So it is in the animal kingdom.

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Spingerah
2 years ago

The rate limiting factor is the doe, not the buck.

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  AntIDem
2 years ago

they are being pushed back into the south. mexicans are pushing blacks out of chicago, too. thing is, the mexicans are not going to let the nigs have *anywhere*, they will eventually eliminate them completely. think of them as rival ant colonies…

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  karl von hungus
2 years ago

Karl: Lats are following blacks to sections of the South, too, and competing with and squeezing them there. Georgia is an absolute malignant cancer as it is, and in the immediate future it will be similar to SoCal in the conflicts between blacks and Latinos. It is already happening in the Atlanta ‘burbs and even some urban enclaves. Advantage: Mestizos. They have none of the guilt and foolishness our people do as to the Sub-Saharan question. Also, coal burning gets a Latina punished toot suite. The key to our people’s survival is quickly getting the Hispanics to the right place… Read more »

karl von hungus
karl von hungus
Reply to  Jack Dobson
2 years ago

agreed.

kvhkvhkvh

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  AntIDem
2 years ago

I have to wonder about the factors behind this shift. I’d imagine the cholos are generally more intelligent and organized than the brothers, while retaining their Aztec heritage of strong stomachs.

I’d bet plenty of them have combat experience from the past thirty years of US adventurism.

On top of that, I’d think they have cartel connections even the largest vibrant gangs simply can’t match.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

Wild Geese: Hispanic gangs (drug, excon, exmilitary, etc.) are going to be a formidable force when/if SHTF. Blacks are naturally more feral but, as you note, less clever and less organized. Again, many people would choose the lesser of two evils. Still not my cup of tea. And fwiw my husband’s lovely godmother was of Mexican extraction, and one of my husband’s good college friends, etc. Doesn’t matter. Their children and grandchildren have reverted to their natural pattern and revere their x% non-White blood even after marrying Whites. Whether that might change if Sailer’s ‘flight from White’ was stopped remains… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  3g4me
2 years ago

I’m skeptical as well, but open to some modus vivendi if they continue to be hostile to the Sub-Saharans and the Tribe. Hardly my cup of tea, either, but it may be the only long-term strategy for the survival of our White people on North America. It also has enough karma/irony to be enjoyable at a superficial level.

Watching the Lation/black conflict play out in SoCal and now the Southeast is simultaneously horrifying and enjoyable. YMMV.

My Comment
Member
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Asians buy a lot of skin whitening products but also are copying the tribe in voicing hatred of whitey. This is especially true of Asian women. They don’t actually hate whitey but they see that works and their culture doesn’t require them to be grateful for White people providing them with a great opportunity to better their lives by living in the USA nor does it require them to try and be fair. Asia’s responsibility is to their family and tribe. If publically hating whitey helps their family, then they have the responsibility to hate whitey. The black violence against… Read more »

Marko
Marko
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

I dunno, a large swath of Asian women seem to have an affinity for white men. The highly-traditional ones stick to their kin; the assimilated or overseas Chinese will intermarry, and the huang zuo (“yellow left”) will do the anti-white bit. But I bet many of them have white BFs. Like Sandy Ocasio.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Marko is right. The anti-white screeching now coming from certain Asian females is just a shit-test from wymyn bemoaning a lack of access to masculine men.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Marko: Marrying Whites, or aspiring to join the dying partially White power structure in AINO does not equal having no racial hostility towards Whites. Asians have an affinity for their own, like all races, but Asian women are very cagey in looking for the main chance. And they are very, very quick to have a hapa to cement any such relationship. Consider the hapa step-son of Britain’s Beatrice. That’s a meal and class entry-ticket that the mother will squeeze for all it’s worth.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  My Comment
2 years ago

It really is comical to hear them speak out against whitey and his supremacism after a string of high profile black on Asian “hate crimes.”

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

Centuries ago when we were on vacation in the Dominican Republic, back when I could speak Spanish, a local was all rosy about race, with his mood only darkening when I mentioned Mexicans.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

I myself heard that nobody likes Puerto Ricans.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

My wife’s immediate superior at work is married to a very smart and sensible Puerto Rican woman (only problem for him was the constant gatherings of her family, until eventually, having no refuge from this enforced familia, he had to put his foot down).

Amusingly, after they traveled with their sons to PR, one of them observed about the place, “There are flies everywhere, and no one cares!”. Heh.

Spingehra
Spingehra
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Can you blame them?
Many years ago overheard Black gay office manager say he never met a PR guy he couldn’t get with.
To this day Get queezy when dealing with any poc but especially PRs

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marko
2 years ago

Marko: Average PR is 20-25% sub-Saharan (re appearance, flies, and behavior). And they get free entrance to the US mainland, instead of having to plead for visas. Plenty of resentment from other Mestizos.

Melissa
Melissa
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

I’m sure you could pick it up again. They say it’s like riding a bike.
Spanish is easy. If the Puerto Ricans can learn it, anyone can. 😉

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Melissa
2 years ago

Possibly. I tried to pick up Chinese some years ago and found it pretty easy to learn but unfortunately my brain was like “you can totally learn this and speak it, but the stuff you get paid to know? That’s gotta go.”

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
2 years ago

30 years ago, I played beer league soccer and we had a few Salvadorans on our team. Whenever we’d do pickup games and mestizo Mexicans showed up, the disdain was palpable. They wouldn’t bother with their names but merely yell “Meh-hee-co!” when they wanted them to pass the ball.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  thezman
2 years ago

The fastest way to get a sense of the the dislike among the Latin American peoples is to go on a boxing message board and look at some threads discussing a Mexican fighting a Puerto Rican. Or Cuban. Or Argentinean.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

In fact, Mexicans have firebombed blacks out of neighborhoods they wanted to take over in California…The Kenyan made a half-hearted attempt to stop it, but gave up..Blacks are at the bottom of the totem pole in Latin America, and are kept firmly in their place…

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 years ago

Many years ago, my parents and I visited several Latin American countries. While in La Paz, Bolivia, which is in the high altiplano, we hired a taxi to drive us down into the beginnings of the Amazon basin to the east for a day. Aling the way, we passed homes with Africans ovee there, and Mario, our driver expressed his dislike of them. Mom hastened to differ, of course; but Mario definitely knew the score.

james wilson
james wilson
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
2 years ago

In Columbia, firmly means breaking bones and backs.

mmack
mmack
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

“Rumor has it that the Mexicans don’t particularly care for blacks, especially in big cities like Los Angeles.” . . . “Judging by recent voting trends, a lot of minorities are waking up to the fact that Democrats view them as pawns and cogs.” From back where I used to live, the Latinos are getting pretty tired of “Not Getting Their Share of the Pie/Spoils” https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2022/05/11/ward-map-winners-and-losers-chicago Every ten years after the national census the Chicago City Council reviews and redraws the 50 ward maps. The Vibrant folks pointed out that 1) There were more of them than the Diverse folks… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  mmack
2 years ago

This is probably the underlying reason the Latino alderman in Chicago felt perfectly comfortable telling Lightfoot to eff off during the height of the 2020 insurrection because his ward had insufficient police presence compared to the 24/7 legion of cops at her house.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

But the cholos were picking up the slack for the absent Policia, or so I heard at the time. The old Southern sundown towns had nothing over those neighborhoods I bet.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
2 years ago

Latin Kings in Chicago protecting their hood in 2020:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c_iiN2G7gQ8

2020 LA Times piece about Latinos across Socal protecting their communities:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-04/latinos-protect-their-barrios-from-looters

mmack
mmack
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
2 years ago

It got Muy Caliente in the Latino sections of the city and collar suburbs (like Cicero) during the “mostly peaceful” George Floyd demonstrations in 2020. At the beginning of the “demonstrations” a number of businesses in Little Village (in Chicago proper) and Cicero (a collar suburb of Chicago) were looted and 2 people were shot and killed in Cicero. So the Latinos showed the cholos ain’t down with that ese. https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06/02/black-chicagoans-being-harassed-in-latino-neighborhoods-officials-say-we-are-in-this-struggle-together/ “In a Facebook Live video shot at 50th and Cermak in Cicero at 7 p.m. Monday, groups of people with bats and metal pipes were gathering near the intersection.… Read more »

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  mmack
2 years ago

So what you’re saying is we somehow have to convince more vibrants to enter the Latino neighborhoods? Hmmm, it might accelerate the alleviation of the criminal race…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

“Rumor has it that the Mexicans don’t particularly care for blacks”

The hell you bellow?! I have it on good authority from Frip that everybody LOVES the saintly negro.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Maniac
2 years ago

Hell, Hispanics don’t particularly like the term Hispanic. The Census once had the two race choices: Hispanic and White. They discovered that many “Hispanics” chose “White”. Couldn’t have that, so they added “Hispanic-White” to the “Hispanic” choice, thereby decreasing White numbers and increasing minorities.