Note: Today at 1:00 PM EDT I will be on with Paul Ramsey. It is only on Rumble as I am a very bad man, so YouTube prohibits me. Yesterday I did a chat with Mike Farris which will be posted here sometime today.
Nathan Cofnas is a college faculty member at Cambridge University who became a minor celebrity as a college student for engaging in a round of debates with Kevin MacDonald about MacDonald’s books on Jews. His primary purpose was to gain attention for himself, but his secondary purpose was to dismiss MacDonald’s theory of group evolution strategy to explain Jewish behavior. Cofnas has now returned to the subject with another paper disputing MacDonald’s theory.
His latest effort is neatly summarized in the abstract of the paper. “I conclude that, contra the anti-Jewish narrative, Jews are not particularly ethnocentric, Jewish intellectuals do not typically advocate liberal multiculturalism for gentiles but not for Jews, Jews did not orchestrate the rise of liberalism or blank-slatism in the West, and anti-Semitism is not primarily a response to actual Jewish wrongdoing.” It would take a heart of stone not to chuckle a bit at that.
What you see from Cofnas in his latest effort is what we saw from the very beginning, which is sophistry decorated with the trappings of the academy. In fairness, most of what comes from the humanities and the pseudo-sciences is sophistry decorated with the trappings of the academy, but Cofnas avoids the insider language and abracadabra phrases common in the modern academy. That makes the sophistry the star of the show, rather than a supporting actor.
The biggest sin is his insistence that his premise is the default hypothesis simply because it suits his argument. He claims that the most logical explanation for Jewish overrepresentation in various fields is intelligence and geography. Jews are smart and they tend to live in urban areas. Therefore, they tend to be overrepresented in cognitive fields because these fields tend to operate in urban areas where Jews are overrepresented relative to the general population.
That is intellectual base stealing. He assert a premise without proof and then he declares it the default hypothesis. That said, he is not wrong in claiming that Jewish IQ is a key factor. Contra most of the fans of MacDonald’s work, but not MacDonald himself, Jews are an IQ outlier. While they are suffering from the same decline effecting all of humanity, Jews remain at the top of the IQ pyramid, and this helps explain their overrepresentation in cognitive fields.
The trouble is, and Cofnas understands this, it does not explain everything. In purely cognitive fields in which no other factors play a role, Jews should be twenty percent of the people in the field, despite being two percent of the population. Twenty years ago the anonymous academic posting under the name La Griffe du Lion modeled this using chess championships in the former Soviet Union. His model corresponds with the arguments from psychometry regarding Ashkenazi intelligence.
The problem, however, is that Jews are wildly overrepresented in fields that are not cognitively challenging, but culturally important. Unless someone wants to argue that the mass media or pornography are cognitively challenging fields, there is something else driving Jewish overrepresentation in these fields. Geography helped a little in the case of mass media fifty years ago, but not in this age. That and the over representation is quite outlandish in some fields.
Within living memory, the answer was ethnocentrism. Into the 1980’s it was common for Jews and non-Jews to quip that Jews stick together. Jewish comedians had a field of humor around the question, “is it good for the Jews?” It used to be understood that minority populations stick together. In fact, this was part of the melting pot theory of Americanism for half a century. Jewish ethnocentrism goes a long way toward completing the picture on Jewish overrepresentation.
Cofnas rejects this out of hand, and it is not hard to see why. If he concedes this point, then it opens the door a bit for MacDonald. When you boil it down, MacDonald’s theory of group evolutionary strategy is the claim that Jews evolved a model of reality that has allowed them to thrive as a distinct minority, often in the midst of a host population that is hostile to Jews. In order for this to occur, Jews would have had to develop a high degree of ethnocentrism to resist assimilation.
The second order effects of this model of reality are things like overrepresentation in activities disruptive to the majority. If who you are is dependent upon your membership in a group and that group’s identity depends upon an adversarial relationship with the surrounding populations, members will gravitate to those things that benefit the group and undermines the power of those other populations. Anyone who has followed a sports team will recognize this impulse.
That is why Cofnas must reject ethnocentrism, even though it is blazingly obvious to anyone paying attention. There is nothing unusual about ethnic groups sticking together in America nor is there anything immoral about it. Modern Wokism is just group identity applied to artificially constructed identity groups. Cofnas, however, must anathematize ethnocentrism, as it provides a building block for MacDonald’s theory of group evolutionary strategy.
The weakness of the Cofnas argument does not automatically validate MacDonald’s theory of group evolutionary strategy. The best argument Cofnas makes in this long back and forth is that the theory lacks empirical support. At best, MacDonald provides a useful model for Jewish group behavior, but he offers nothing with regards to the biological mechanism at work here. If Jews evolved to be this way, then how exactly does that work from a genetic perspective?
That is the real problem with MacDonald’s theory. Evolutionary biology is gene-centered, so something like group selection gets little support. In other words, MacDonald’s theory is at odds with current science. More importantly, it is at odds with the current dogma within the human sciences. In this regard, MacDonald has company, as those suggesting multi-level selection may help fill in the gaps are facing the same headwinds as MacDonald.
Max Planck famously said, “Science advances one funeral at a time” and that is what will most likely happen with regards to group behavior. Observation tells us that groups have innate behaviors. Biology tells us that if such a thing exists, it must be gene specific and subject to selection pressure. The people controlling the flow of grant money to the human sciences tell us that talking about group behavior is dangerous and best avoided, so we wait for the next round of funerals.
That may be the biggest error in MacDonald’s work. He had to know he was treading on dangerous ground with this topic. His use of the word “strategy” to describe his theory may be technically accurate, but it conjures the wrong ideas in the wrong heads, which is the real issue here. The anti-Semites hear “strategy” and imagine men in secret, plotting their demise, while the anti-anti-Semites hear the word “strategy” and imagine the first set of men in secret, plotting their demise.
Scientist such as David Sloan Wilson, Elliott Sober and E. O. Wilson have been able to research and discuss this material by avoiding trigger words. If you are going to talk about group behavior and you suspect certain groups with power would like to avoid talking about group behavior, it is prudent to avoid the sort of language they associate with threats to their group power. We like to believe that the truth will set you free, but it is just as likely to get you hurled into the void.
In the end, the participants in this debate are in the realm of model-dependent reality, even though they do not realize it. The Cofnas model of reality is useful to him personally, but also useful to his supporters in the academy. It solves the sorts of problems they encounter. The MacDonald model of reality is different, but not contradictory to the Cofnas reality. In fact, there is overlap between the two and that is where model independent reality lies.
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I completely agree that Cofnas is a sophist who cares nothing for the truth and keeps making the same arguments while ignoring my counterarguments. But re group selection: My perspective is cultural group selection. It’s not important to get into how it works genetically. From my review of Joseph Henrich’s WEIRDest People in the world: Without mentioning cultural group selection, Henrich describes social norms as “arising directly from cultural learning and social interaction, that is via cultural evolution” (p. 69). Within the group, reputation is important; people with a bad reputation may be penalized, exiled, or even murdered — essentially… Read more »
—Max Planck famously said, “Science advances one funeral at a time”
Given the era that Planck lived in, this was astute. But at some point, I’d say that “Science regresses one funeral at a time” is a better statement since about the 1960s. When biological science is anchored by equality and equity, it can’t advance any further, and it corrupts other field of science in its wake.
Why current Hollywood movie just plain dumb? Because Jewish director and Jewish writer is dumb
Why America scientific achievements Keep Decline? Because Jewish overrepresented in Academia
Literally Jew can’t justify their role in society when society keep failing because of their overrepresentation
Jewish supreme intellectual mind theory is equally dumb as Aryan race theory
I prefer McDonald’s coffee.
How could I forget
The original Dindu Nuffins
Anyone who has worked for Jewish firms has had Jewish nepotism rubbed in his face hundreds of times…either you accept it for what it is, or leave…It isn’t hidden.
This very contentious topic again. I will start by admitting that I may be biased. I have had quite close contact with members from this community over the years, and had/continue to have many strong relationships. Of course, there are always individuals, but there are group dynamics too. It is hard to argue against what one sees going down the list of the Biden White House cabinet. Or looking at the credits on Hollywood films (or TV shows). Or the influence of the ADL. It’s likely that the people I’m acquainted with are already pre-disposed to be more “like us”,… Read more »
“We need to be aware enough of the influences being pushed on us from society, to at least recognize and reject them. I believe this is starting to happen in some corners of “the right”. This will be a decades long project, though.” I am mildly white-pilled on the long game. Ultimately, those who easily succumb and are most bought-in to the degeneracy being peddled will have few or no children. I think of my oldest son, 11 years old, and his buddies at his Catholic school. They are far more sheltered and naive about things than I was 30… Read more »
“I am mildly white-pilled on the long game.”
I am too, reasonably, but my gut feeling is like a weight is off of me. At the risk of sounding woo-woo, the spirit moves before its effects are seen, and it’s been a long time since I had a good feeling like this. Give it a few years.
I share your optimism. There are lots of positive trends going on. I also agree that the worst cultural damage (90s as you mentioned) is behind us. The circumcision rate is apparently dropping alot in Canada (now below 30% of babies), and hopefully the same is happening in the States. Another positive trend 🙂 That said, it’s not as simple as outbreeding the libs. Your kid may have a nice time growing up, but the left wing brainwashing is certainly going to be shoved at him in university. Maybe your son withstands it, but does your daughter? That is just… Read more »
Yes, I think our sons will eventually come out the other side into a better society by far–but in between, I expect some very tough times…I just have faith in them….
Have you given your kids “the talk”? They will still need to know about black privilege and why they will be shunned while bad behaving blax get the spoils.
Many in that group want to dispossess us, you and me. They hate us for our ancestors and just how we are now.
The friends that you have in this group will not defend you.
Me pointing this out doesn’t mean that I am wallowing in victimhood.
It’s my understanding that— having evolved for hundreds of thousands of years in hunter-gatherer groups consisting of our extended family and their spouses— that *all humans* have ethnocentrism and a special affinity for the members our particular tribe encoded in our genes. Only in the past 10-15,000 years have we lived in cities composed of various unrelated groups. So the necessity of learning to co-exist with unrelated others— and the selection for the genes which make that possible— is a relatively recent phenomenon. And of course evolution— which can be understood to as humans’ ongoing ability to adapt to our… Read more »
The models are pretty clear. Jews cannot be the engine of the world by themselves (not enough of them and they lack important traits necessary to make things work at the most basic levels). Therefore, stalling out the world’s engine is a death sentence ultimately. A parasite cannot persist if it kills off the host. But nothing will really change until a serious collapse forces normie off the couch. And until that occurs, its best to focus on yourself (and family/friends) in order to survive the interregnum following collapse. That is no easy task. You can’t freelance it at the… Read more »
I think MacDonald’s thesis is at least approximately true, but it’s unnecessary. It doesn’t take a three-volume evolutionary-psychological treatise to understand how the Jews became all that they are. Just have a glance at them through the lens of the great Jewish miracle: compound interest.
Even the smallest IQ advantage combined with the slightest in-group preference will, over time, produce great “overrepresentation”—or, as it’s traditionally called, victory.
Most cultures throughout recorded history have understood usury to be a crime, an injustice, or an outright evil.
That’s enough.
It is not about genetic group evolution, but about cultural group evolution. This happens for every group that has survived, but it’s especially extreme for Jews, because of having lived in the middle of hostile populations. So the Jews have developed cultural adaptations, like being hostile to Christianity and traditional European culture. Every Jew that was not hostile has ended up mixing with gentiles and disappearing among the general population. The ancestors of Saint Therese and Saint John of the Cross were Jews that converted and it doesn’t get more Catholic than that. People that stay Jews are the ones… Read more »
Well done. In discussing IQ, the aspects of IQ- the ability to speak, to confer, to remember- seem to be completely forgotten.
This is why so many people, particularly in Eastern Europe, have a small percentage of Jewish genes. The Jews who enjoyed being around the locals peeled off and blended in, adding a small bit to the larger gene pool.
By and large, the populations were not hostile, at least initially. The script played out repeatedly in the olden times. Jews would be welcomed into a Kingdom or Emirate, usually to play their role in banking because both Christianity and Islam banned usury, while Judaism did not. Later, for reasons that are impossible to explain, they would be expelled. Must be antisemitism.
” having lived in the middle of hostile populations.”
Might be better written as
” having inserted themselves into the middle of hostile populations.”
because that raises the question of “Why do they do that?”
It’s because we all have Jewish Mothers, even the shiksa moms become Jewish Mothers.
According to the experts, Jews have small flat noses and long luxurious foreskins. They are renowned for their generosity, stoicism, and great capacity for forgiveness.
It’s an unmooring. Apollonians and Mercurians, as Z has mentioned before, is a useful way of looking at it. Jews are a diaspora, so they’re exemplary of the unmooring, and because they’re powerful and successful, they draw ire. If gypsies or Bedouins were as successful and powerful, they’d take the heat instead. The ire isn’t mere jealousy or scapegoating, either. Unsettled people are disruptive to settled societies. It’s a rightful ire. Speaking as an American, the worst part is watching Americans being scattered, becoming Mercurians after so much effort and bloodshed establishing ourselves, to the point where few question the… Read more »
Gab Badthink, again:
Tommy has 5 cookies.
Ira offers to lend him another 2 cookies at 4% interest.
A week later, all Tommy’s cookies are gone and Ira insists Tommy owes him 8 more cookies.
What kind of hat does Ira wear?
From what I can tell, the Irish use “Tommy” as a slur of the English. Ironically enough, the most important story about the Irish in forever just snuck under the radar this weekend [it was dumped on a Friday afternoon, when no one was paying any attention]: Mobster Whitey Bulger’s nephew visited the WHITE HOUSE while Biden was vice president: Hunter’s associate who concocted China deals met with top aide https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4144212/posts =============== It turns out that, all along, Hunter Biden had been in bed with the Bulger family Irish Crime Syndicate. For those of you who are cinephiles, the role… Read more »
The point here of course is to compare & contrast innate Irish criminality with innate J00ish criminality.
[Meyer Lansky himself had to authorize the assassination of Dutch Schultz.]
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If it didn’t involve the ackshual nukular football itself, this sort of grotesque ethnic incompetence would be absolutely hilarious.
It’s a crying shame that the j00z aren’t quite so incompetent.
Cofnas’ BS is particularly infuriating, because he almost certainly knows better, and better men than him, even many Jews, have admitted that Jews are at least partially responsible for anti-Semitic attitudes. Stephen Steinlight has written eloquently about the anti-gentile attitudes he imbibed from his family and friends, and how that he believes this adversely affects relations between Jews and others. Jerome Weidman, the author and Broadway playwright, talked about Jewish arrogance and “Anti-Gentilism” in his book “I can get it for you Wholesale”, and how this was bad for both Jews and Gentiles, and the country as a whole. Mordecai… Read more »
Z: “His use of the word “strategy” to describe his theory may be technically accurate…”
If 1500 years or more of Hebrew Day School [in foreign nations] spent studying & memorizing the dictates of the Talmud are NOT a “strategy”, then the word “strategy” is meaningless.
The Talmud is the UR-STRATEGY.
To the best of muh knowledge, no other race of humans ever had anything even remotely resembling the Talmud.
[I supose it’s possible that e.g. the Brahmin of the Hindu race might have something akin to a “Talmud”, but, if so, they’re been very quiet about it.]
Yes. The Talmud is essentially, Yea Jews!! and screw everyone else together with all of the perversion.
It is no more complicated than that.
The Talmud was written by the worst elements amongst the Jews — those who remained in Babylon when Zerubbabel, Joshua and Co. headed back to Jerusalem to build the second temple . . . the temple in which Christ the King taught and preached.
So, the most cowardly, materialistic, and anti-God elements are the folks who began to write the Talmud, along with their Babylonian buddies who doubtless put their own stamp of occultism on the documents.
Didn’t need Jevovah nupe, all us rabbis are far more clever and will make up a Pentateuch for ourselves! Won’t that be convenient!
The strongest supporters of Jews among Christians are Evangelicals. Their naive conflation of Old Testament through a Christian filter with actual present day Talmudic Judaism is a big part of the “America’s Greatest Ally” theme.
He’s right up there with that anthropology professor who was insisting to a class that you could not determine sex from a human skeleton.
He got laughed at for his assertion. Then he made a horse’s ass of himself by complaining about the laughter. Watching it, I actually thought about Z’s riff that the end will come when they get get laughed at. One should really hunt that video up and watch it if they haven’t seen. The jewish concentration in finance plays a huge role in the huge role of Jews in tech and science. Finding themselves sitting on big piles of money they eagerly buy up promising technology. I find myself looking into the owners or CEOs of key communication nodes or… Read more »
PS if anyone wants to get redpilled on the elite, based, jewish mafia. Find Maria Farmer’s interview with Whitney Webb. It was an unfiltered informal telephone call between two women with an expectation that info would be extracted for a formal article. It was so hot Whitney Webb just dumped the entire call on the internet. As i listened I could feel the psychic wince emanating from Jews around the world. Not gonna lie, it sorta aroused me.
As you’re an idle bastard, allow me:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3rotCaNUVsFU/
I’m not an enabler of the anti-semitisms. Idle bastard! I’ll have you know; i’m not idle.
Just yesterday, a story about something Bill Maher was saying, with a picture of him, showed up in my homepage feed. And I got to looking at his nose. Never really noticed before. So I did an Early Life check, and what to do you know Something that’s been in the back of my mind for longer is that the last 4 US treasury secretaries (not counting the acting ones who held the job for a week or two) were all members of the tribe. Counting the acting ones, it’s 6 or 7 out of the last 8. Looking at… Read more »
Maher has always been an obnoxious fedora, but I have to give him credit in his atheism movie it was funny as hell when he interviewed a guy running a conversion therapy camp who acted like Nathan Lane trying to be straight in the Bird Cage.
Well, you know those people are good with money…
It is hard to account for the over- representation (verging on complete dominance) in media, in particular, without a “strategy”. Is control of information choke points coincidence or cohencidence? Nepotism is the method, certainly, but is it the motive?
I approach MacDonald’s theory the same way I do quantum physics. I may not understand exactly why it works, but it does.
At least it accounts for the appearances. Then again, so does Ptolemaic astronomy.
There is probably no more nepotistic culture in America today than Hollywood. Or was, before they made a decision a couple of years ago to elevate vibrants. We’ll see how long that lasts, it’s putting a lot of jews out of work.
It’s all in the Bible. Jacob (renamed Israel) means “supplanter”: Genesis 27:34 And when Esau heard the words of his father, he cried with a great and exceeding bitter cry, and said unto his father, Bless me, even me also, O my father. 35 And he said, Thy brother came with subtilty, and hath taken away thy blessing. 36 And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob? for he hath supplanted me these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for… Read more »
Extremely pertinent:
(And, Biblically friendly, even)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sycii9j6wzs&feature=youtu.be
“The Not so Chosen People”
10 min.; a quick sketch of genealogy, straight from the Old Testament source. The author is J**ish, I believe, as well.
Well of course group or kin selection.
Who ya gonna mate with, a warthog?
Those individual genes acting selfishly need a corresponding set to act in concert with, and to respond to.
Beware! The Libertarian gene strikes again!
“Blazingly obvious.” Many of us here read a frequent contributor’s blog where he’s prone to employ a much more colorful adverbial phrase. 😎 [European] Jewry are among the most intelligent. Going back centuries if not millienia too, they developed skills to survive and, when possible, to prosper as guests in host countries/cultures that were alien. They surely have no claims to being an insular group. Gypsies and Travelers exit, as do probably many more I’ve never heard of. What sets the Jew apart was (is) that, even as a hated outsider, he often had skills essential to his hosts: banker,… Read more »
Having read the Culture of Critique trilogy with an open mind, I don’t think KMac is arguing in good faith. There may be holes in Cofnas’s arguments(I wouldn’t know) but MacDonald is the most brazen intellectual base-stealer of them all. His general argumentation tactic is to take a reasonable and obviously true claim – “Jews practice ingroup favoritism(who doesn’t?)”, or “Group identity is important” and prove it. Then, he uses this reasonable claim to leapfrog to an extreme and unsupported assertion, like “Jews intentionally tricked Europeans into committing racial suicide”. Then, when criticized or challenged, he retreats to the less… Read more »
And this, my friends, is why you don’t debate with Jews. Thank you for proving my point.
Let’s all just agree that we need to separate. Jews can have their society, and we’ll have ours. No hard feelings and best of luck to you.
I concur. If you don’t wish to share a country with Jews, feel free to get the fuck out of America and don’t come back.
100% concur. When Shmuel, Moche, Binyamin, Rachel, Sarah, and Ruth came over on the Mayflower, blazed a centuries long trail through the wilderness, and tamed the vast wilds of the continent they surely only wanted other Hebes here. Oh wait… that was Europeans, my bad. We made the same mistake that Russia made in centuries prior. Kindness and naivete and it got us subsumed and degraded over the same long timeline. I’ll give you all credit, you play the long game VERY well so take a bow for getting one over on Europeans -again- but don’t act like you were… Read more »
What a mouth on this kid. Your overbearing mother would disapprove. Unlike Jews, I have no homeland, so I’ll stick around and try to build a community for my people within the larger society, just as Jews do. Regardless, your antagonism is telling. Many whites just want to separate ourselves from Jews and Jewish influence. Nothing more. We wish you no harm and are more than happy for you to have your own communities. Indeed, this is what we’re witnessing around the world. China, Russia, India, Saudi Arabia, etc., they are all trying to break away from Jewish financial control… Read more »
You’re the one with the big mouth. I posted an honest assessment of Kevin MacDonald’s body of work based on what I’ve read of him. This evidently went over your head as you failed to address a single point I made, and indeed told me the entire site that debating with me is a waste of time, only to top it all off by implying that I and my family and my loved ones should be forcibly expelled from America. And because you say “no hard feelings”, I’m supposed to smile back? You’re a coward. You don’t even have the… Read more »
Why does some whites (or other groups) not wanting to include Jews in their own communities make you so angry? Whites and other groups don’t care if you include us in your community. What about being on your own so disturbs Jews? Regardless, I never said anything about Jews having to leave. You’re (not surprisingly) lying. Separate communities is all that I suggested. As to your critique (see what I did there) of MacDonald, I don’t care. Just as I don’t care about what really happened in the Holocaust. Just as I don’t care about long-ago events in China or… Read more »
lol, why do they always resort to Barton Fink-esque screeching about how they’re so much more intelligent that you cannot possibly understand their superior argumentation?
Just behind the deafening roar of men in assless chaps I’m beginning to detect the gentle melody of “Tomorrow Belongs to Me”. Hope you got your bags packed
You can have Brooklyn.
Upvoted for nil’s stilleto.
Tell you what, we’ll leave, and take our inventions with us.
Now, contrast living in Jerusalem versus living in Tokyo. A battle of high IQ, right, no Caucasians involved, right?
He got through almost a whole post about how his cousins are great friends for us to have around…
before openly wishing for the elimination of the stupid goyisch dogs from their own country.
Nothing shakes you out of philosemitism more than actually listening to them. Worked for me at least.
Finkels do have their own society–and country–Israel. Oddly enough, a very significant percentage of them prefer to dwell among their erstwhile gentile oppressors. Odd that. And it tracks with nuggras who, for all their kvetching about whitey’s racism, have never shown much inclination to move to Africa or even to carve their own seperate nation out of AINO’s hide. I’m left to conclude that, as much as the Finkels and nuggras hate us, they simply can’t live as well as they feel they’re entitled to, without us. The term parasite springs unbidden to mind.
Nil has already made the point that he is a jew first. Not an American. He gives comments like who doesn’t and obviously true when jews favor things like mass immigration against their “fellow” countrymen which he admits aren’t. Jews are a stereotype because they favor Middle men professions and nepotism which favors their coethnics. Don’t give a shit about America except exploiting for short term gain before moving on. Maybe it’s just their leaders like sorts but jews never criticize other jews no matter how poor they act. Yes jews act in their own interest against their countrymen but… Read more »
Hart-Celler act. Check the early life section.
It has been too long since I read COC, but MacDonald does some Motte-and-Bailey in his most recent book. This is a common rhetorical trick for some reason. Cofnas is a sophist, so his writing is littered with a variety of logical fallacies. In the case of MacDonald, I think the issue is the subject he is covering is too broad. That was what I said in my review of his latest book.
It appears that he did try to address this person’s concerns at some point.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/04/05/the-special-jewish-role-in-passage-of-the-1965-immigration-law-a-reply-to-abraham-miller/
I didn’t feel the need to show Nil this because Nil isn’t being honest. He has no desire to actually debate and find the truth.
Citizen: “He has no desire to actually debate and find the truth.” The j00z are the children of the father of lies; the j00z have no interest in Truth. The j00ish race is an utterly meta-darwinistic phenomenon. The j00ish race cares not a whit about Truth, nor about lies for that matter. The j00ish race cares only about WINNING. If the j00z can win by speaking truthfully, then the j00z will speak truthfully. Whereas if the j00z can win by lying, then the j00z will lie. [Although my guess is that there are a significant number of sadistic j00z who… Read more »
Well, I’d dispute that the defects in KMac’s arguments are solely or primarily due to his having bitten off more than he can chew. I’ve read many of the books he cites and there’s a huge difference between what they state and what MacDonald reports. Here’s one example, from Separation and its Discontents: “In recent times Jewish strategy has often included attempts to mold personal beliefs via the mass media. The Dreyfus Affair in fin de siècle France “saw the emergence, for the first time, of a distinct class of intellectuals . . . as a major power in European… Read more »
If the conclusion was truly that Jews are mindfully attempting to exterminate Europeans, then yes that makes no sense. If tomorrow all the Europeans went up into heaven and you guys were left behind for being mean to God’s son, well, now you’ve got 14 million Jews versus 2 billion Muslims. The actual argument is that Jews compulsively attempt to weaken and undermine the dominant culture wherever their diaspora settles. The reason is that historically once the Jews had positioned themselves so that everyone owes them money and they’re bleeding the peasants and nobility alike, then suddenly the king finds… Read more »
First off, thank you for the intellectually honest reply. Second, I try not to say things I can’t back up. From the preface to Culture of Critique: “The best strategy for a collectivist group like the Jews for destroying Europeans therefore is to convince the Europeans of their own moral bankruptcy. A major theme of CofC is that this is exactly what Jewish intellectual movements have done. They have presented Judaism as morally superior to European civilization and European civilization as morally bankrupt and the proper target of altruistic punishment. The consequence is that once Europeans are convinced of their… Read more »
nil: “Yet how conveniently does he omit the fact that Dreyfus was innocent! No shit, people are not going to approve of imprisoning a man for a crime he didn’t commit. No brainwashing necessary.” LOL’ed. Alfred Dreyfus was every bit as innocent as was Leo Frank. Afterwards, y’all created an entire Department of Innocence to make absolutely certain that none of y’all’s kind would ever again be convicted of a crime in a goyische court: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League Still chuckling at the chutzpah. But that poor poor little shiksa, Mary Phagan. She didn’t deserve to be brutally murdered by your kind. She… Read more »
It’s not extermination. It’s parasitism. Exploiting the work of the host population and extracting their work in multiple ways including the theft of Edison’s invention and fleeing to California at the turn of the 20th century. The only things jews know is to exploit. Be middle men without any loyalty to the “nation” other than the ability to extract money and labor. Which is why the leaders pursue objectives at odds with fellow coutrymen that aren’t their countrymen. That was the biggest shock to me was the realization that melting pot idea was believed by nobody outside of European Christians.… Read more »
This fellow commenter is here just taking up space. Theyve got the entire media, news, and governmental establishment out there pumping their ideas at 6 million decibels all day long. Everyone everywhere knows exactly what they think about everything already. What is gained from him coming here and garbaging up this little corner of the internet with more of the universal narrative? Because dissidents talking together about issues that matter scares them, it lead to trouble the last 109 times the locals started noticing. The point isnt to convince anyone, obviously everyone here knows better. To the extent truth is… Read more »
That’s a bit disingenuous. The “easing up of racial quotas” between the end of WWII and Hart-Celler didn’t address the populations limited by the Emergency Quota Act of 1921 and Johnson-Reed (1924). Hart-Celler did. Now we *could* discuss why strict quotas were put on East European immigration, but I think most people understood why anarchist bombings, organized crime, etc., were undesirable.
I think that would reinforce my point – if the USA opened the gates to Asians before readmitting EE Jews(which they did, in the fifties), then that implies that Jewish interests were not the primary driver behind immigration reform. In fact, it seems that the loosening of racial restrictions begun because the Anglo-American elite wanted to use immigration to America as a sort of diplomatic weapon in the cold war -get people in, have them Americanized and let them spread this to their home countries so they wouldn’t go communist. Of course, the immigrants themselves had other ideas.
The problem you have here is that you are telling people that they should believe you rather than their lying eyes and that leads people to think MacDonald is on to something. Jews are now and always have been disproportionately in favor of open immigration, not just here but everywhere, except Israel. The question is why? A “good” answer is that minorities will always favor openness in all things. Otherwise, the majority will craft rules to exclude minorities. The principle of openness serves the interests of minority groups. Open borders is just one example. Logic dictates that you focus on… Read more »
Well, this is another example of motte-bailey(not that I’m accusing you of disingenousness). I mean, I fully agree that Jews tend to be irrationally pro immigration but I don’t think this really makes them different from other Ellis Islanders like Italians or Irish, who came at a time when America’s ethnic character was already too diluted to completely assimilate large numbers of immigrants. I’m really more against the KMac formulation where we tricked an innocent country into suiciding itself for shits and giggles. That isn’t remotely true. This is a common response when I discuss the scholarship in the CofC… Read more »
Jews practice ingroup favoritism(who doesn’t?)
NW Europeans. And it’s not a post WWII thing either
The most obvious, and most low hanging fruit is the genetic basis for IQ. It was commonly accepted until WW2, which is why so many Malthusian groups existed over a hundred years ago. You can see it with every animal and the human animal is no exception. I have a friend with a border collie that knows how to turn the door knobs to get into off-limits rooms in the house. I have another friend with a mostly Chow dog that would consider something like that to be nuclear physics. This brings us back to humans. If we admit that… Read more »
We used to use proxies for IQ in admission to the US for residency. We had—as do many other countries currently—quotas for those with skills useful/needed to a technological society. That would still be enough to solve the IQ diminishment problem of minorities if it were now in practice. This is how my father came over after WWII at a time of closure to immigration. He hit the ground running when he got,off the the boat (literally).
USA is unique among formally Anglo countries in not having a skills focus. Family reunification and diversity lottery, both of which MacDonald puts forward the idea were pushed by Jewish activists.
UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand have much more skills focus
Anyone who has spent a lot of time around our small-hatted friends (such as I have) will know just how important being small hats is to people who are small hats. They talk about it incessantly. It is one of the first things they will tell you about themselves when meeting them for the first time (in a friend setting, like being introduced to your friend’s friend), even if they aren’t religious in the slightest. Being a minority is probably part of it, but just going by my own experiences, I’d say there is definitely some group stuff going on.
Instead of The Black Paper, we get…
Imagine being introduced to a vegan Jew
I’ve noticed this, too. Particularly in intellectual settings. They want you to know they’re part of the smart set. Nothing wrong with that, really. In fact, it’s slightly amusing in a sympathetic way. But it does make quite clear that Finkels are extremely proud of their ethnicity. And they expect you to be impressed.
I don’t want to be “that guy”, but as Z would say, I can’t help but to chase after the stick. I hope I can be taken seriously in this comment, and not merely cause many sets of eyes to roll… The “high Jewish IQ” claim is a cultural meme that has no basis in reality. The video below thoroughly debunks the meme, I highly suggest every one watches is it who believes in this claim. It is very erudite and professional. In short, the meme originates from a few misapplied sources. Basically the original claim comes from an old… Read more »
The high IQ is real, but not to the extent that is widely believed. The 115 number is based on a study whose own author says it’s not a representative sample. The 105 or 106, I’m willing to believe though. After all, it’s not like small hats invading fields cause it to collapse.
But even if it was true and the number was 115 and they are not over-represented even after adjusting for IQ, that doesn’t mean we have no legitimate interest in keeping them out or in much lower numbers in certain fields.
I could create a study which boosts Western European scores up to 125 as long as its not “representative.” In one of the studies most often referenced for “high Jewish IQ”, the tests was given to small subset of Jewish children attending high-priced private schools in New York… Children’s IQ is graded on a very inaccurate curve, and of course the sample of high end private schools will skew things further. If you haven’t watched the video, I highly suggest it. I’m not saying they are dumb. I’m not saying they can’t handle anything Whites can’t handle in terms of… Read more »
Just as blacks can read body language like a map, while whites can’t read it at all- not even in each other.
So each asks, “why aren’t they seeing what’s obvious? Are they lying?” of the other.
Doesn’t explain the over representation among Nobel laureates does it? Jewish ethnocentrism among the nomination and selection committees? You are running contrary to just about every mainstream HBD scientist I’ve read. YT videos are no substitute for scientific journal articles and reputation in the field. Now I agree that an SD above the mean is a ridiculous over estimation, but an average IQ for the *past* population around 105-108, coupled with a culture that prized higher education to achieve group status would do it. Such would produce enough outlier geniuses as shown by the list of Noble laureates. Now as… Read more »
Genetic studies are estimating Ashkenazi IQ around 108, but the consensus is that it will settle in around 110-112, but that does not account for the current decline in Jewish IQ. As someone said, 1974 was peak Jewish guy in America. In 2074, when people think of Jews, they will think of those weird guys with the fur cylinders on their heads that live separate from everyone else.
I could see 108 IQ with verbal being even higher. I also agree that Ashkenazis are a disappearing breed. The birthrate is low and out marriage is very high. Granted, when Jews marry goys, they marry pretty smart goys, so their kids are pretty smart. That said, the kids lose a lot of personality traits that I wrote about somewhere else, and those personality traits are just as important to Jewish over-success as IQ. Smart half-Jews act a lot like smart gentiles, i.e., they do well at school but they’re not on the make. They just want a good job… Read more »
If the 115 iq was real, to get the iq of Israel where it is, the iq of the Arabs would have to be below 50.
(I looked at it about 20 years ago so do your own numbers)
I’d be surprised if Jews didn’t have a slightly higher IQ than whites and even Asians at least for verbal. However, I’ve maintained for a very long time that the big genetic advantage of Jews isn’t raw IQ; it’s personality traits. The obvious trait of ethnocentrism is well known and, certainly, accounts for a large part of their success, but I’d argue that there are several others just as important. To start, Jews are dramatically more likely to push for business success than whites. Many white guys start a business, but once it reaches a certain size, they’re happy and… Read more »
“They can’t let it go.” This explains a lot, including the 109 times thing.
Cockiness, reckless self regard, tribal ethnocentrism, a will to dominance, a hustler’s verbal agility, conceptual “fluidity” – if those traits don’t describe an African ancestry, I don’t know what does.
Well, that and the protruding snout, versus the flat plane of the European face.
Favorite meme of the moment: “when your jaw is three times the size your brain”
WARNING
EXTREMELY RACIST
PLEASE DISREGARD THE HURTY WORDS
https://gab.com/EmilyAnderson/posts/110181503418444716
You actually described the Chinese pretty well. I can’t speak for Koreans or Japanese – maybe they’re as avaricious, I dunno – but the Chinese hold doing business and having a financial safety net, and “face” as a result of financial success – in the highest regard. They also lie and cheat whenever possible. Then when caught, they lash out or grovel in a most unappealing way. Ask anyone who’s ever done business in China. The older ones who came of age in the 1990s are most likely to worship the yuan, because when the CCP outlawed Chinese spiritualism, and… Read more »
Also, as both foreigners and infidels, Jews have no moral obligations towards their host nations.
Whites mostly study law to help build a just society because we think of society as “ours”, Jews mostly study law so they can screw government and neighbors out of money because it’s not their country.
In their own country they have race laws such as I fervently pray my government would copy, and a 100′ border wall with barbed wire on top and a sign saying “Refugees Fuck Off Or We Open Fire!”
Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Jews have an advantage over their host populations that’s similar to the advantage that sociopaths have over everyone else: they don’t feel emotion toward that other person. In college, I tangentially knew this one guy who scored with women at will. What was odd was that he wasn’t particularly good-looking nor particularly a fast talker. But what he had was a (terrifying) ability to not care about the women that he was talking to. He’d just tell them what they wanted to hear, no fear or remorse. Insane but effective. Jews are similar. It’s… Read more »
The highest IQ religious sect are the presbyterians. We dont see them overrepresented in any corporate industry, probably because Jesus said “its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” Whereas the talmud encourages manipulation for financial gain. Even the inventor of the fleshlite is jewish. No shame, these people. It could be genetic or religious, because both influence each other over time.
We have GWAS which matches tested IQ, not just for Jews but plotting IQ vs GWAS education for many population groups is a perfect correlation.
The Patels have 50% of hotel rooms. Is it because they are smarter than everyone else, or do they use nepotism to get where they are?
Favorable loan terms from the Small Business Administration certainly doesn’t hurt.
Even nepotism requires some minimum intelligence. Look at those with rock bottom intelligence — the blacks. They don’t even have enough brains to realise that a system of reciprocal favorsibased on trust and goodwill is win-win.
The Patels start with one run-down motel. The whole family pitches in and those working are not paid even minimum wage. This allows for the family to save and buy a second motel, then a third. And it’s a sector of the economy — run-down and cheap motels — that the corporates are not interested in. Likewise for convenience stores in run-down areas.
Of course, which is why you don’t let outsiders into your society.
I don’t give two farts if the Patels are hard workers or smart. They’re not my people. Let them open hotels in India.
Israel wouldn’t let in a million 140 IQ, industrious Chinese even if it meant improving their economy and raising the living standard of Jews. You know why? Because those smart Chinese aren’t Jews!
No-one is saying they are your people (or mine). Israel by the way is allowing in some large Indian firms — I think one is going to be managing the port of Haifa. The Adani Group.
I’m fine with trade, tourism and academic exchange amongst peoples.
But everyone goes home when the deal is done.
A patel hotel owner plunked down a telephone book and told me, “This is my family directory. There are 8,000 names in here, and I’ve met and know each one of them by their first name.” His last name: Patel.
Was this in Parsippany, NJ?
What the Patels don’t have is ready access to finance capital. The Jews do. They operate at a completely different level — national, global. A Patel knowing a thousand other Patels helps a bit but not that much.
That’s changing. Indians are popping up all over the commanding heights of society, including finance and banking.
For the first time in a long time, Jews have competition.
“Indians are popping up all over the commanding heights of society, including finance and banking.”
As hired hands. Not the same thing. There are Indian business houses that have access to global finance capital — Tata, Birla, Reliance, Adani, and maybe a dozen other major Indian houses. But these are the exceptions. However, the situation will be different twenty or thirty years down the road.
Yeah, Indians aren’t running the show on Wall Street, but they are getting into the game. It’s a process, but they know what they want and how to get there.
It’ll take decades as people move up the ladder or start separate firms after getting the connections from working at other firms, but it will come.
Gujaratis are overrepresented among business people.
I think the unique genius of NW euros is scientific and technical thinking, techno industrial society.
I’ll have to go to the Jewish community center and ask them what they think about this ethnocentrism business.
ZMan, if your today’s article is not a proof of G-d’s existence, I don’t know what is.
That was pretty funny
A return stilletto served up with style!
The heritability of behavioral traits is extremely well established in biology via countless laboratory and field studies that are highly repeatable. And it is demonstrated in a wide array of species spanning from bacteria to Homo sapiens. Denying this documented reality is the equivalent of denying gravity. For example, some behaviors are automatic (think breathing or eye blinking). Others are more discretionary (think flight or fight response to perceived danger). What muddies the water is that some behaviors are soft drivers (think proclivity) versus hard imperatives. Ethnocentrism (which is really just tribalism at the root) is a soft motivator that… Read more »
“No one gets to choose their parents, so blaming a Jew for being Jewish is asinine. But if a specific Jew is doing something harmful to others, then that must be redressed regardless of religion or affiliation.” I disagree. In a multi-racial society, group behavior counts. You are both an individual and a member of a tribe. You will be judged both on your own behavior and the behavior of your tribe. If a particular tribe is causing trouble, every member of that tribe should be held accountable. Your reasoning only works in a homogenous society. That’s gone. Time to… Read more »
Ancient texts are rife with tribes killing a random member of another tribe as retribution for some injustice.
Jews are notorious for locking shields with their own, no matter how odious the person. See Leo Frank for instance.
There’s a larger reason for holding every member of a tribe responsible for the larger actions of tribe members: it forces members of that tribe to police their own people.
Jews are quite obviously not very good at policing their own. That or they approve of those actions. Either way, we know what Jews do to every society that allows them in and that all that we need to know.
Prior to the conclusion of the so-called “Civil Rights Movement,” white people held the black race accountable for individual instances of black pathology. Now that rarely meant execution of a random negro in recompense for another negro murdering a white person. What it did mean was that blacks, en bloc, were segregated and suppressed. In theory, if blacks desired a better lot for their people, they would have to behave in an increasingly civilized manner. Now this social system did not turn Harlem into 18th-century Vienna, but it did result in negroes behaving in semi-civilized fashion around whites, and it… Read more »
“See Leo Frank for instance.”
I for one would rather not have to look at Leo. And while one can debate what percentage of the folks in question have ‘higher IQ’, my feeling based on extensive experience is that 98% are hard on the eyes, and 100% have traits that rhyme with ‘gooey’.
There are many ways to deal with a diverse society in which each grouping possesses both favorable and harmful behaviors. Voluntary segregation is the most common (and natural) solution, and it is found all over the planet. Where things problematic is when “governments” subvert this natural process in service to some “stated” altruistic goal, thereby imposing involuntary proximity and attendant strife. At the root therefore, the source of this problem is government and not the unique traits of any particular population cohort. Stated another way, you cannot force Jewishness out of Jews by either government fiat or societal coercion. Its… Read more »
True. But groups by their nature will seek to dominate other groups. And the group that controls the government will attempt to use government force to gain even more power.
This is why multiracial societies are always dominated by one of the tribes. Our society is run by Jews for the benefit of Jews.
The dominate tribe will never allow the other tribes to peacefully separate.
I agree with your thinking. It is unlikely for the government of a multiracial society to be “neural”. Michael Anton is as clueless and delusional as 1960s communists in this respect.
I recommended The Ethnic Phenomenon by Pierre L. van den Berghe.
It discusses for example the idea of consociational democracy aka giving each group proportional or some representation in the government and has the effect of reducing focus on class and more on ethnic spoils.
This explains why class politics has died since 1960s as US govt began distributing ethnic spoils
Best to just not have a diverse community at all. Where there is diversity, there is division, regardless of governmental activity. How could it be otherwise?
Cofnas had better be careful. Anyone who talks about those who operate in the shadows and run everything, is liable to cut off his nose despite his face. The Name Changers do not like any attention at all, unless it involves their public relation outfits like the SPLC decrying any research into their activities as antisemitism. Try taking a look into what banks really own the Federal Reserve Bank. They are foreign, everyone of them has names that would be considered normal names if you are an Israeli citizen or business, and it is nearly impossible to do a search… Read more »
I would think it can generally be agreed upon that Jews have substantial over representation with respect to the levers of power and influence in AINO. I would also think it can generally agreed upon that over representation has further produced many negative cultural and societal outcomes. Of course not all blame for these ills can be placed at the feet of the small hats, as substantial numbers of goyim have been complicit as well. However, can they be highlighted as the root cause in many cases? Probably.
To be honest, I’m pretty Jewed out. Everyone knows what Jews do to every society in which they are allowed to enter and to have any degree of free rein. We have 109 recorded examples. Yes, there are plenty of individual Jews who are fine, but the Jewish community will do what it has always done, so those individuals Jews don’t matter. The exact reasons for what they do can be debated, but the outcome of letting Jews into your society cannot. So, frankly, I don’t care about “why” they do what they do because I already know the “what”… Read more »
i would say there are two ways; one of which is to exclude them.
No wonder somebody’s trying to ban gas ovens
You are a naughty boy, Alzaebo.
actually, i think Karl is worse. More subtle.
Westerners have spent tens of billions of dollars building Jews their own country with neuron bombs to avoid the perpetual cycle of Jews grabbing for power and shaping society for their benefit (1965 act, EU rapeugees) due to their paranoid skitzo nature and the subsequent backlash.
We can end this tragic cycle one and for all. As my position is the same as Benjamin Netanyahu, I hardly see how it can be antisemitic: Jews should move to Israel
When Cofnas uses the phrase “anti-Jewish narrative,” that indicates his strong self-serving bias and reveals he can’t be trusted to seek truth dispassionately. “Enthnocentrism” is a fine word, yet I prefer the term ETHNIC NEPOTISM. It’s impossible for me to believe that there isn’t a ton of ethnic nepotism going on with the Tribe. Sure, a lot of their people are smart, but that can’t explain the full extent of their often shocking overrepresentation in certain fields. Are you trying to tell me there’s no ethnic nepotism in Hollywood? Get out of here. That’s just silly.
Cofnas, like most Jews, doesn’t debate in good faith when the subject has any possible way of connecting to the Jewish people.
He’ll say whatever he needs to say to protect his people. You’re never really “debating” with a Jew. For them, it’s always a fight to the death, so finding the truth doesn’t matter. Winning the debate matters.
Whites can’t seem to figure this out.
Ironic – his display of inability to debate this issue honestly confirms the ethnocentrism of his tribe, the exact thing he set out to refute.
“Not that there’s anything wrong with that” to quote one of his better known tribesman. Whites could use some ethnocentrism of their own. For some reason Whites seem particularly vulnerable to the Hollow Cost card when trying to counter the tribe’s shenanigans which adversely impact White’s interests.
The other day I visited a museum here—mostly natural history with some floating exhibits—and there was a huge one on the Holocaust. I’ve been estranged from mainstream politics so long—and bludgeoned with the maudlin Schindler’s List, whiny violin stuff since grade school—and confess to having had nothing but dark thoughts. “If the Sacklers’ forebears had been liquidated, think of how many people wouldn’t have overdosed on pain pills after that bunk ‘less than one percent become addicted’ study. If Larry Fink’s people had gotten it in World War II, we wouldn’t have to worry about him trying to gobble up… Read more »
Another issue is cultural practices also have an evolutionary path, as practices that worked in one time become suicidal in another, and the ability to select different social norms becomes as crucial to survival as one’s genes. The Jews have obviously developed very powerful cultural practices that have allowed them to punch way above their weight while being very outnumbered. Those same cultural practices are also why they were continuously kicked out of countries. Culture is still downstream from genetics, but let’s not understate there is still a lot of room to maneuver to instill genetic survival mechanisms through social… Read more »
I think we should look at culture as a model of reality. There is a lot of overlap in these models, but there are important differences. These models aid in our fitness, so they are subject to the fitness test. Jewish cultural models in the east evolved under different conditions than in the West, the result is clear differences between the two. Paul Gottfried has talked about this when you were allowed to discuss it.
So, it’s possible that East European Jews are genetically slightly different from West European Jews.
Happens all the time. In Germany, there a many genetic difference both in appearance and personality among the Germans living in various locations.
Culture impacts biology.
Absolutely.
Western J’s:
Financial conquest.
(Banking)
Eastern J’s:
Neocon wars.
PS- industrialist Weimar J’s in Germany were mightily pissed at the Communist revolutionary activists coming over from the Pale.
As if by magic, look what showed up today at the Unz Review…
https://www.unz.com/article/jewish-control-of-u-s-presidents-2-ronald-reagan/
Another conicidence on Unz today:
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/can-rfk-jr-defeat-the-media/
We’ve been alking some about him lately and I’ll admit I’m looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
“That is the real problem with MacDonald’s theory. Evolutionary biology is gene-centered, so something like group selection gets little support.”
What am I missing? How are these two stances at odds with each other? I am going to be more partial towards someone who has more genes in common with me. Genetic proximity matters, and it is a synonym for group survival strategy. I want genes like mine to survive.
That is not what this means. It is not about preferences, but about selection pressure. The human sciences assume that evolution is at the gene level, not the group level.
Not sure that I understand what you’re saying.
Sure, evolution is at the gene level, but those genes will eventually spread throughout the group and survive or those genes won’t and will die out.
What’s the difference?
Women choose seats that men have sat in; the pheronomes of genetic signature must be different, but not wildly different.
There is no difference. Indeed, ethno-centrism is studied/talked about widely as potentially at the gene level. Behavioral tendencies are at least partially associated genetically. There are for example genes identified as being more common in Blacks associated with violent proclivities. When that gene is in Whites, we see similar behavior.
Not sure this is ground not already covered.
Hes saying mainstream scientific consensus is opposed to group selection ideas, even though they’re obviously factual
Try to explain the beagle phenotype. They chase rabbits exclusively. Kill a rabbit, they don’t try to eat it, but rather lose interest and wonder off . Occasionally, a beagle will start chasing deer. My Dad would unceremoniously shoot these dogs. Of course we also bred good dog with good dog. In fact, brother with sister/cousin (like the Rothchilds). Several generations in, we produced some neurotic specimens. Still remember one, Crazy Daisy. Took a high school buddy hunting with us once. Dad got pissed on that particular hunt and killed a dog. Kid shit himself. Still lol remembering it.
Lived most of my working life in the NY metro area. All the assertions in the second paragraph did make me chuckle. Would make many of my more open minded Jewish acquaintances chuckle too.
Denying reality makes for a poor argument.
I, too, spent most of my life in Gotham
And I, too, found those words quite risable.
Small tribe with high IQ + complacent host population = disaster. Over-representation in media is a red alert, but many contend that they also infiltrate any number of institutions/organizations and favor their own tribe until said tribe dominates the institution/organization. I have seen this with my own eyes over a long lifespan.
Oh boy, here comes the ((( ))) crowd…
The 21st Century will be defined not by nation-states, but by the battle between collectivists of all stripes and individualists, primarily the liberal democracy types.
I would use that parentheses key but it broke on my keyboard a good while back.
If the 21st century will be defined by “the battle between collectivists of all stripes and individualists,” then I’ll tell you right now that the individualists will lose.
Doesn’t the history of failure of conservatism demonstrate this truth?
The unit of survival is the tribe, not the individual.
Enjoy getting picked off one by one. Tribe up or die.
100% Know your neighbor, know your friends, know your tribe.
The needle that people who feel a strong affinity for individualism, like me, must thread is that we must act tribally with other groups while allowing personal liberty to members within the tribe.
For me, the goal is fascism facing outward and the American frontier within. When there is conflict between what’s good for the group and personal liberty, personal liberty is second.
Exactly.
Ironically, the only way to treat people as individuals is to think of the tribe first. Once you create a community – almost assuredly based on ancestry – and protect that community from outsiders, you can treat the members of that community as individuals.
Spot on, both.
Can’t protect individual rights without a tribe to protect them;
That is, can’t protect individual rights unless one protects tribal rights.
Minor point. From du Lion’s post:
“In 1927 Alekhine defeated Capablanca to become the first Soviet world champion.”
Alekhine was never Soviet. He was a White Russian who lived in exile in Western Europe. Later the Soviets appropriated Alekhine for their own propadandistic purposes. Also, in passing, Alekhine was not Jewish (nor does du Lion say he was). In the 1930s, at the behest of the Nazis, he wrote a number of journalistic pieces contrasting Jewish chess with Aryan chess.
Z-man’s really risking drawing in a bunch of pro-Mustache Man LARPers today. I commend him for taking that risk. “Ethnocentrism” is a perfectly fine word, yet I prefer the term ETHNIC NEPOTISM. Though I have no proof of its occurrence, I find it hard to believe that there isn’t a lot of ethnic nepotism going on in an industry such as Hollywood. I also consider it ludicrous to deny that 1. members of the Tribe often have interests specific to the Tribe and 2. those particular interests are often in conflict with the interests of the majority population. That said,… Read more »
The role of a social sciences Professor is to create a theory to explain why the obvious cannot be true.