The Low Trust Model

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A little more than two weeks ago Hamas launched their daring raid into Israel, killing many Israeli soldiers and civilians. The Arab – Israeli story has been on the back burner for a long time, due to relative calm between the various sides. The imperial wars in the region have ended, so the American political class has not had a reason to talk about how much they love Israel recently. This attack unleashed a great deal of pent-up Israel enthusiasm from the Cloud People.

Right after the raid, the Israel lobby in the United States swung into action, launching a massive public relations campaign in support of Israel. There was a contest between the chattering skulls over who could be the most extreme in their demands for vengeance on behalf of Israel. Like the response to the death of George Floyd, the reactions from all corners of the managerial class felt coordinated. The usual suspects were all using the same canned lines on social media.

That may explain why this massive public relations campaign has not had the effect the narrative writers expected. Two weeks on and most Americans are more interested in the NFL scores than Israel and Gaza. Then you have the large pro-Palestinian protests breaking out all over the West. Washington had about ten thousand people turn up to wave the Palestinian flag. Famous people like Dave Chappelle and Greta Thunberg have made anti-Zionism fashionable again.

When you look at the polling, support for Israel is just over fifty percent, but this is due to unwavering support from old white people. Outside of that group support ranges from “a pox on both sides” to mild opposition to Israel. Among the young and left-wing, the Palestinians are becoming the cool new victim group. College campuses are suddenly having to deal with students supporting the people their donors are trying to kill over in the Gaza strip. It is, as the cool kids say, problematic.

Clearly, the all-out media blitz has not had the expected result. The political class is still playing its role, as if the people are clamoring for it. Nikki Haley is running around promising to blow up the world if elected president. She wants to rename the Defense Department into the Offense Department. While she is clearly a psychopathic simpleton, her echolalic babbling is falling on deaf ears. It turns out that even the sorts of people who care about GOP politics are not moved by Israel.

One reason for this is that this media relations campaign looks like the public relations campaigns around previous moral panics. This looks like the George Floyd hoax or the Russian collusion hoax or the white nationalist hoax. It is the same actors playing the same roles with a new bogeyman. This style of gaslighting can only work so many times before gaslighting fatigue sets in with the public. These calls to arms over the latest bogeyman are becoming background noise.

There is also the fact that there is simply too much information and too many people skilled in peddling their own reality. The Israel lobby has billions of your money to spend on these campaigns, but there is a massive guerilla army of online volunteers working to counter them. The internet is full of pics showing bombed out buildings and dead Arab children, along with carefully constructed context. The misinformation war has been joined by this volunteer army supporting the Arabs.

Of course, there is the moral problem at the heart of it all. Yes, Hamas killing women and children in that raid is terrible. Yes, Israelis have a right to be angry and want retribution for the terrible act. No, revenge and retribution are not things Westerners have been conditioned to accept. Pulverizing Gaza as revenge for the raid strikes most Western people as barbaric. Appeals to our empathy is not going to change the fact that Israeli is blowing up hospitals now.

There may be another factor, something that underlies all of these other reasons for the failed media campaign. That is the reputation of all public people has collapsed due to their constant lying and tolerance of obvious lies. All the people chanting “Death to Gaza” are people who sat quietly while their fellows told outlandish whoppers about Trump, his voters, white people, Covid and many other topics. Many of these people have enthusiastically held abhorrent positions.

A good rule of life is to assume that people who lied to you in the past are lying to you in the present and they will lie to you in the future. The public square has been so polluted by official lies and people willing to repeat them in public that many people now assume everything is a lie. If Ben Shapiro was happy to lie about Covid, why would he be telling the truth about Israel? Why would anyone accept what the Biden administration has to say about anything at this point?

This is an underappreciated aspect of what happens to people when they transition from a high trust society to a low trust society. Send a middle-class man to prison and he will be victimized by the system until he gets smart. He then goes to the extreme, assuming that he can trust no one. In time, he figures out that he can trust certain people, but he can never trust the system. Low trust societies have the same sort of trust relationships that you will see in a high security prison.

That may be what we are seeing in America. For some people, it is assumed that everything from the system is a lie. Old people still trust the system, but young people have no faith in it. On the other hand, many people are learning to trust those who have earned their trust. All the highly choregraphed media in the world is no match for the word of that guy who has proven to be on the level. In fact, the media campaigns are creating the environment for this trust model to flourish.

This is not a novelty, as much of the world functions this way. In the Arab world, for example, not one accepts official sources at face value. It is assumed that the official story is cover for the real story. Arabs love conspiracy theories. In Eastern Europe, people treat politics as a separate sphere with separate rules. Seventy years of communism taught them to understand that the people in charge serve their own interests, not the interests of the people.

It is only in the West where people came to expect honesty from the ruling class and consistency in the rules of the system. The civic nationalist concept of good government is a WEIRD concept. The term WEIRD here means Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic. It works as long as the societies and their ruling elites remain demographically Western. That is obviously no longer the case, so it is no wonder that the West is evolving a new model.

In the end, the aphorism credited to Lincoln, “You can fool all people some of the time and some people all the time. But you can never fool all people all the time” works better as a warning, rather than a description. A ruling class that keeps trying to fool most of the people most of the time ends up fooling themselves into thinking they are fooling everyone all the time. The end result is a ruling class that has the trust of no one and must rule by force until the end.


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Sumguy
Sumguy
8 months ago

I just have to say this, and I’m sure I’m not the only person to realize this, but Chappelle, Thornburg etc aren’t “pro-Palestinian” for the same reason some right-wing/right-leaning/conservative dissidents are “pro-Palestinian. It’s the old problem of “the left agreeing with me for the wrong reasons”. Chappelle basically hates while people and has profited his whole life by making fun of the white people he hates (while performing a minstrel act that also sort of self-deprecates) and the white people he hates eats it up, because they hate themselves more than he hates them. Thornburg hates white people too, because… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Sumguy
8 months ago

This problem started in 1946 to 1948 when the British and Americans decided to play God and partition the area in order to give it to their preferred people. Note that the people who were living there and forced out had no part in the Axis Alliance nor much to do with WWII at all. OK so be it, however it should have come as no surprise that doing that would piss off many people even to this day. Now take that anger and add it to the fact that in Gaza they are kept in an open air prison.… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

What provision of which Geneva Convention is Israel supposedly violating?

Stephen Dowling Bots, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Bots, Dec'd
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

I come to this web site to escape brainwashed Zombie Slaves like you. Your ‘voice-of-reason-from-on-high’ shtick as you vomit up your propaganda is tiresome beyond all measure.

We have ALWAYS been at war with Eurgaza, right? O’Brien?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Bots, Dec'd
8 months ago

LOL! Presumable proto-Nazi moron whines about invasion of his safe space.

I repeat, “What provision of which Geneva Convention is Israel supposedly violating?”

Asking that clarifying question about a prior assertion is “propaganda” and indicates brainwashing, how?

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

They are currently violating the one that says civilians should not be bombed. You can look the article up yourself. They have this thing called the internet. I am pretty sure you can find the article number and the exact wording.

Israel signed the convention articles in 1951 I think. I could be wrong about the year.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

There is of course no Geneva Convention article asserting flatly that ” civilians should not be bombed”, as you would have realized if you had even the slightest semblance of a functioning brain.

Alexander Scipio
Alexander Scipio
8 months ago

The government and its tame media lie about everything. Can you think of something they are NOT lying about?
Covid
Vax
Climate
Beef
Bugs
Debt
Inflation
Borders
Education
Elections….

https://alexanderscipio.substack.com/p/tired-of-the-lies-yet

Bourbon
Bourbon
8 months ago

ROWAN, if you’re reading today, History’s Greatest Genius copied out a Steve Kirsch*** essay: https://voxday.net/2023/10/23/vaxxed-with-simian-virus/ The original essay is here [but you would need a subscription to see it, which is why you would want to read it instead at History’s Greatest Genius’s website]: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/ok-you-were-right-we-admit-vaccine Anyway, the gist of the essay is that everyone who submitted to the V@xxines is now poisoned with Simian Virus [#40]. Wikipedia SV40 https://tinyurl.com/yannwhyw Wikipedia tries to sweep it all under the rug, but if you read the entire Wikipedia article, it’s abundantly clear that, under the right circumstances, SV40 is moar than capable of… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Bourbon
8 months ago

When you said History’s Greatest Genius you left out Level 99 Karate Man and Unparalleled Spaghettore.

Ancient Mason
Ancient Mason
8 months ago

“Old people still trust the system…” I’m old and haven’t trusted the system since the passage of the PATRIOT Act.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ancient Mason
8 months ago

I haven’t trusted the system since before the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, so Z isn’t talking about us.

But then he still thinks Israel is bombing hospitals, so he seems deeply confused.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Ok Boomer… the truth is, we will never -really- know who hit that hospital. It is just as likely it was hit by Israel mistakenly as it was hit by Hamas mistakenly. War is chaotic, and mistakes of that type are -common-.

US hit many friendly targets or wrong targets during their adventures in the sandbox. The fact that you automatically wave this off as an impossibility for Israel says everything I need to know about you.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Apex Predator
8 months ago

Didn’t a doctor working there say that Israel had already lauched a couple dud rockets as warning shots into the hospital? I think they’re just so used to dumbasses here believing the story that Arabs just desperately want to kill themselves to make Jews look mean.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
8 months ago

Lying liars say all sorts of stupid things, but it would take a real dumbass to believe nonsense like Israel firing dud rockets into hospitals as warning shots. Is Israel trying to kill Gazans or not?

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Apex Predator
8 months ago

Hamas routinely makes human shields of the Palestinian citizenry. They purposely place weapons and fighters in hospitals, schools, mosques so Israel can be blamed when it bombs them.

Dissident Right doesn’t need to be in love with Israel, but to root for the Palestinians is foolhardy. Might as well root for BLM or the Antifa college students or the ANC against South Africa.

Apex Predator
Apex Predator
Reply to  fakeemail
8 months ago

Not “rooting” for anyone none of the Semites are my people. My ideal outcome would be mass obliteration of both parties, but the “hurr durr muh Israel are the good guys” hot take is Fox News Boomer Tier shit and needs to be called out quickly. This ain’t Breitbart…

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Apex Predator
8 months ago

“we will never -really- know who hit that hospital”

That formulation dishonestly assumes facts not in evidence. If the hospital had actually been hit it would have been perfectly possible that Israel had hit it. But the surveillance photos show it is still standing. And there is a parking lot nearby that WAS hit by something, but the possibility that 500 were killed by that bomb or missile is zero. Just look at the photos.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Shoot, you ain’t dicksquat. I haven’t trusted the system since the Code of Hammurabi.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

The difference is that you are a ridiculous liar and I am, not.

felix
felix
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

You, maybe; are.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

Lots of things are possible. but I’ve asked “What is the evidence?” is up and down this thread and the proto-Nazis have never, ever, come up with more than rumors, more bare assertions and downvotes. They come across as being as dumb and un-self aware as A-rabs. On the evidence you are too, “maybe”.

So, again, what “lie” excuses your half-slur?

Pox Americana
Pox Americana
8 months ago

An interesting development in all this is that support for Israel is now being seen as low class among the left.

The over-the-top lumpenproll enthusiasm for Isreal is activating the gag-reflex among the educated libs.

Conservatards have a long history of discrediting pertinent issues by acting stupidly and thus causing the public to associate debate on an issue with the cringy behavior.

Conservatives have finally managed to discredit support for Israel by their association with it.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  Pox Americana
8 months ago

That is some major irony, is it not?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Pox Americana
8 months ago

A cloud can’t risk being seen to be on the same side of an issue as a dirt, lest his greatest fear be realized, that he be mistaken for a dirt.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pox Americana
8 months ago

True. But equally important is that the overriding anti-white racism of the Left is finally engulfing Israel, which is seen–wrongly–as a white, colonial state.

WCiv911
WCiv911
8 months ago

Gun sales may be useful as a indicator of how trusting a citizenry feels. More guns, less trust. Guns sales in recent times have shot through the roof…as well as gun use.

Whitney
Member
8 months ago

I did see someone compare Israel to Rhodesia and I got to admit it tugged my heartstrings a little bit but then I remembered, one was my people, the other isn’t

WhineSpectator
WhineSpectator
Reply to  Whitney
8 months ago

Yes. I’m reminded of the Chesterton quote about picking up a boomerang (which may itself now be self-parodying to quote in any new context). I think the online narrative troops of every big-shot Internet economic zone are throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. The old agenda-setting media is the TV-addicted boomer here trying desperately to keep up with the tempo of mindless hormonal e-activism. There was a fairly deranged piece of neo cope in “The Spectator, by someone of whom Wikipedia notes his “British passport has enabled Haaretz to send him to cover the 2011 Egyptian Revolution”… Read more »

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Whitney
8 months ago

How appropriate to be talking about a country founded and named after a stooge for jews like the Rothschilds and Afred Beit.
I can certainly see the connection with Israel.

Whitney
Member
8 months ago

This is zog just added a menorah emoji to my recently used emojis. I have never used that emoji ever I’m really annoyed by it. I just had to click on 36 emoji’s to remove it because I am petty.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
8 months ago

Sub “white” for “western” in WEIRD and it’s more accurate.

Kim Bendix
Kim Bendix
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

WEIRD equals Northwest European, more or less. Therefore plenty of Whites are not WEIRD.

Vizzini
Member
8 months ago

I realized I had finally triumphed over my libertarian impulses when I noticed that the only reason I ever visited Reason magazine’s site was to make fun of it (I have also noticed that seems to be the purpose for a majority of the commenters there).

I am starting to notice that my reaction to almost every post on InstaZionist is mockery, so I guess that’s something.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Vizzini
8 months ago

I am forever grateful to Z for turning me against libertarians.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
8 months ago

I forgot the good news!

Gaza Games are causing a shortage of gender transition drugs in the US.

The only maker of gender transition drugs is Teva Pharmaceuticals, in Israel.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Is that good? Because if anything, it could only increase the war fervor of the GAE, whose leaders see denial of sex change drugs as a war crime.

Vizzini
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Obligatory “Every. Single. Time?”

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

OMG…it’s transexual genocide! Send in the military!

Pox Americana
Pox Americana
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Boomer conservatives: “Palestinians are the real transphobes”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pox Americana
8 months ago

Good username, BTW.

Dutch Boy
Dutch Boy
8 months ago

This old white guy is in the “no dog in this fight” camp (neither Hamas or Israel is any friend of ours). However, our unqualified support for Israel in this conflict has made everything worse and made any possible peaceful solution impossible. The Palestinians are not a threat to the USA; Israel and its American lobby definitely are. They are a perennial war lobby and are the prime movers in our overall disastrous Middle East wars.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Dutch Boy
8 months ago

Yes..there’s an article on Unz talking about the 4 ways America would benefit from Israel’s demise…My reaction to that is…only 4?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

My reaction to this is “America”?

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

Not. Gonna. Happen. However fervid the imaginations of the folks at Unz may be.

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  Dutch Boy
8 months ago

How it can be that a nation with debt of 120% of GDP. or $100k per capita is going to borrow money to give to a country with debt of 60% of GDP. or $30k per capita.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Dutch Boy
8 months ago

Palestinians are not a threat to the USA? Well, according to what I’ve seen in the form of riots and protests on college campuses and in major leftist cities Palestine supporters are very much a threat to America. First of all they’re freaking Muslims and Muslims hate America Christians Jews and everybody else. According to their books the goal of all Muslims is to either convert or kill non-Muslims. So don’t tell me the Palestinians are not a threat to America. And you might not like Jews but they don’t wanna kill every American at least not not according to… Read more »

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

I haven’t really kept up with the fracas, since it’s lies all around. Why bother? But the one thing that seems apparently true to me is that the GAE really wants somebody to take a shot at its forces and give them an excuse. Only reason I can see that they moved all those assets into the region, which apparently have no other purpose.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

Yep, the US task force presence is a “trip wire”. No doubt about it. Even more scary is that the close proximity of US assets allows/tempts belligerents and promotes false flag operations by the deep State apparatchiks. One only needs to remember how we got into the Vietnam conflict to see how easy it can be to promote an Iran attack and a subsequent US response.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  compsci
8 months ago

Don’t think you’re supposed to use your most expensive assets, two super carriers no less, as trip wire. But of course I’m not Brandon Tzu of “if you don’t know what you’re doing, neither does your enemy” fame

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
7 months ago

I don’t know exactly how vulnerable the US carrier groups are, but the idea that the only possible reason for them to be there is to lure an attack is as dumb as a rock. Given Brandon’s track record that they are an empty gestural flex to make him look “strong” seems rather more likely.

Also possible happenstance. My understanding is that the second was scheduled to go through the area before the out-of-Gaza attacks. Which could be a cover story, of course.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

The ADL was quick to redirect their hatred at whitey by claiming White supremacists were the real enemy who were exploiting the conflict to spread antisemitism.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Sounds like claiming that the Palestinians were white supremacists was a bridge too far even for the ADL…

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

It’s an old Israeli trope that an ex-Palestinian leader, Haj Amin Al-Husseini, was a pal of Hitler. So it’s not too far-fetched to say the Palestinians are white supremacists. It has also not been forgotten that the Arabs as a whole were supporting Hitler and the Third Reich.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
7 months ago

But Israel didn’t exist in 1939-1945, so the A-rabs were being anti-British and anti-French rather than anti-Jew, at the time. Not that they WEREN’T anti-Jew, but they had more salient reasons for preferring the Nazis.

crabe-tambour
crabe-tambour
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
8 months ago

Greenblatt is covering for his buddy Soros. A neo-communist who uses Jewish identity to launch predictable retorts to any and all critics and to provide cover for his nihilist pal, whose NGOs are providing the organization for these protests. The alt-right remains mostly pseudonymous and low-key, while for the Left the Arabs serve as their pets du jour, while Israel satisfies their hatred for “Western Civ.” I have little sympathy for the Arabs, but this “Our Greatest Ally” crapola nauseates me. Apparently, this Armenia/Nagorno-Karabakh/Azerbaijan business goes unacknowledged. OGA is said to have an arms-for-oil deal with the Azeris. The Evil… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  crabe-tambour
8 months ago

Nagorno-Karabakh was the final straw for me. I went from neutral on Israel to thinking of them as an enemy. Helping an Islamic country against a Christian one would be impossible for any sane Jew it seems to me. It proves the absolute contempt in which they hold us.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

Azerbaijan and Iran are not comfortable with each other, so Israel backed Azerbaijan (the enemy of my enemy) and Iran backed Armenia (the enemy of my enemy). Don’t look at religion; look at geopolitics.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

Nah. That’s exactly the route that the ruling class would espouse. That way you train yourself to become comfortable with knifing your people in the back.

miforest
miforest
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

hey griller, your burgers are burning . better look after them.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
7 months ago

@Arshad: Your tone is wrong. Rational explanation is lost on the antisemites. Just deride them.

My Comment
My Comment
8 months ago

Yes. America is becoming a low trust society which is fine with the replacements who are all from low trust societies.

The rulers no longer have to care whether people buy their lies. Example: Most democrats don’t support what Israel is doing but will vote democratic anyway. The tribal donors like what Israel is doing and that is all that matters.

Young people might not be on board with Israel as our greatest ally but they buy all the tribes’ other narratives including open borders and hate whitey.

The rulers can’t win them all.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  My Comment
8 months ago

They will buy the open borders narrative right up ’til the time when the Venezuelan criminals move into the neighborhood….When their real estate values go into the toilet…

Bilejones
Member
Reply to  My Comment
8 months ago

Every people have their myths and legends, Jews among them. The issue is that a politically powerful group of them believe it as fact. Given the vicious self entitlement in their myths, this is bad.
What is calamitous is that they demand that the rest of the world go along with their bullshit.

imbroglio
imbroglio
8 months ago

Your point about us becoming a low trust society is spot on. But…

” Appeals to our empathy is not going to change the fact that Israeli is blowing up hospitals now.”

You’re damaging your own trustworthiness. You know that claim as been debunked. Hamas itself is no longer promoting it.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

I haven’t seen it debunked at all and even if it had been, what about all the other non-military targets they’ve joyfully bombed? For example the Orthodox church, Israel is on a mission to destroy Gaza and its people no matter what the rest of the world thinks. No one has said anything about lebensraum yet but I’d bet its coming from the radicals in Israel soon.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

Yes. To the point now that Israeli politicians are saying they will annihilate Iran. With nuclear weapons if necessary. So my fellow old people need to wake up and smell the coffee. Does anyone doubt the small hats are capable of using nukes? If nukes are used what will Russia’s reaction be to the use of such weapons on a country they share a border with? Even if a potential war with Iran stays conventional, can the collective West win such a war? I think that is very much in doubt. The real problem is there are no adults in… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

“…Israeli politicians are saying they will annihilate Iran…”

You are a liar.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

This appears to be what you are referencing: “Israel has a very clear message to our enemies. We are saying to them, look what’s happening in Gaza – you are going to get the same treatment if you attack us. We are going to wipe you off the face of the Earth.” – Israeli Economy Minister Nir Barkat https://www.rt.com/news/585550-israel-hamas-threat-gaza/ So, as I said, you are a liar. The particular government official is NOT saying that Israel WILL attack, it is a conditional threat. And it is directed not at Iran, but at “you” IF “you attack us”. Israel has of… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

“I haven’t seen it debunked at all…”

Your ignorance is truly determined, then.

Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Your ethnicity is truly determined, then.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Bloated Boomer
8 months ago

Compare:
(a) Search for “Khobar Towers bombing” and choose “images”.
(b) Search for “Gaza Hispital bombing” and choose “images”.

The only thing truly determined is your determined and deliberate ignorance.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

The the pictures of an intact hospital and a parking lot with damaged cars is a fake? I doubt it. Yes, there was damage and lives lost, but there is no hole in the ground where a hospital once stood–but I don’t spend much time pondering the issue.

Not my monkey, not my circus.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

To be fair, the Palestinians lie as often and as hard as the Israelis and our Regime. Why trust anybody to be giving the straight story?. A supposed hospital was supposedly blown up and all sides are slinging bullsh about who did it. There’s no way to find out and I don’t care.

We should have learned from WWI to stay out of such conflicts and let intractable enemies kill each other off until they agree to stop or one side crushes the other and ends the war.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gespenst
8 months ago

“A supposed hospital was supposedly blown up and all sides are slinging bullsh about who did it. There’s no way to find out and I don’t care.”

I don’t care if you care, but “the pictures of an intact hospital and a parking lot with damaged cars” are in fact evidence that the hospital wasn’t blown up. Plus there are the video of missiles being launched from Gaza just as the “hospital” explosion happens right under their path. The absence of flattened-hospital pictures is in fact dispositive.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

I still don’t care. Several tribes of religious nut cases are fighting over some desert territory. I don’t hate any of the tribes and I don’t like any of the tribes and can’t get exercised over the fight one way or the other.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Since you didn’t take in my first reply I can only conclude that you came in on the short bus. What part of “I don’t care if you care” left you convinced that “I still don’t care” was an appropriate response?

The issue is not whether you care about the hospital, but whether you care about truth and falsity. I think that’s now settled. Clearly you are perfectly comfortable with lying

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Palestinians are expert propagandists with decades of experience and billions in funding from the Islamic world, the UN and Europe. The population of Gaza is constantly exploding with tax drivers having 20 kids thanks to international welfare. If this is a “genocide” the Israels certainly need coaching.
What is annoying is how the recent ethnic cleansing of 100,000 Christian Armenians from Nagorno-Karabakh has merited absolutely no howls of condemnation from either the pro-Israel or pro-Palestine crowds. Where are the Christians?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

I’d say the Palestinian Authority (the official “government”) and Israel are splitting the UNWRA profits.

Also, this way, the Israeli MIC does a roaring business and the corps can shaft small business by forcing Pali temp labor at their border maquiladoras (assembly plants.)

Plus the usual “developer” chicanery, etc.
(Bibi’s kids are the MEK company, slumlords to Pali’s and to Israelis.)

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

The Palestinians have nothing on the jewish propaganda machine. The jews have 1000 times the experience and resources.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  c matt
8 months ago

The reason for such “success” in the propaganda war by Israel (IMO) is the overwhelming control of the high ground (media). Even the local radio commentator here is Jewish and roars like lion wrt the present conflict, where previously he sounded like quite a based conservative talk show host and (((his))) religion was never mentioned. There is also (I suspect) some co-ordination of talking points among these folk nationwide. For example, the most duplicitous one is how Israel is being described as a tiny State of 8M. The commentator asks you to imagine/compare what a loss those 1700+ people killed… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  compsci
8 months ago

That is beyond deceptive. 37K did not die. Period. But, at any rate, even if Hamas had managed to grease 370K Israelis, it would change nothing in my mind. This is between the Israelis and the Palis. I’m just not interested in warfare between two alien peoples.

Stranger in a Strange Land
Stranger in a Strange Land
Reply to  compsci
8 months ago

Similar to what uncle Joe (or whomever) stated: A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.
Sub 37, or 37k, or 370k for a million – it’s all statistics – and all probably mis/dis info in any case.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

“Palestinians are expert propagandists with decades of experience and billions in funding from the Islamic world, the UN and Europe.”

You’ve just gotta be kidding. They can’t hold a candle to the Zionists, who have deeper pockets and literally own Western media. The amazing thing is that there are Western people who can’t be brainwashed and who see a long-term genocide for what it is.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

What “long term genocide”?

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Fancy seeing you here Shlomo.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Notice how that one picks the most punchable white face as its avatar.

RasQball
RasQball
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

The weight, in lbs., of a length of conventional railway track, please.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Poor you. Here you thought you had found your safe space.

I repeat, “What ;long term genocide’”?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

: LOL! Supply yours so I’ll know who to squash like a bug if I see you.

Archie Parr
Archie Parr
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Oh, for Pete’s sake, just shut the hell up. What are you doing here? Did you read the above post? Obviously not, if you’re here telling us to trust the authorities who’ve “officially debooonked” something.

Tars Tarkas
Tars Tarkas
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Did you read that on Snopes?

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Look, I don’t know if the IDF did or did not. I do know, however, that they have cut off all the water, sewer, and electricity to Gaza. These acts are clearly targeted at harming the general population. The specifics are subject to debate; the overall outlook is not reasonably debatable.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Eloi
8 months ago

The allegation that Israel bombed the hospital is bullshit, and if you repeat it expect to be called on being a bullshitter.

As to water, sewer, and electricity… expecting Israel to continue to supply water and electricity to its enemies is ridiculous. And I would be greatly surprised if they treat Gaza sewage, but if true, that too ought to have stopped..

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

If all of Gaza is the enemy, then why mollycoddle about? Why not just turn it into glass and be done with it once and for all?

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

No need to, yet, and it would only solve part of the problem.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

Israel had actually bombed it some a couple of days before and had warned the hospital to evacuate within 24 hours…And it wasn’t a bomb, it was a US missile..

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  pyrrhus
8 months ago

You are a loon.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

If I’m looking at candidates around here for a one-way trip to the loco house, senor Finkelstein, you are at the top of the list.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

I’ll keep that in mind while making up mine.

mikew
mikew
Reply to  imbroglio
8 months ago

It hasn’t been debunked. Israel pulled together some audio recording of a supposedly intercepted Hamas radio transmission that said something like “oh my , I can’t believe our missile did such damage to the hospital”. Such a crude stupid Israeli trick that it was insulting. It was either a Hellfire or a JDAM.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  mikew
8 months ago

Larry Johnson, a former CIA analyst, tried to play it straight and acting as a skeptical professional, but ultimately he has come to believe that it was Israel’s deliberate doing, likely through the use of a Hellfire missile armed with a thermobaric warhead.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  mikew
8 months ago

“It was either a Hellfire or a JDAM.”

JDAMs range from 5 to 20 times as large as a Hellfire.
If you can’t tell the difference you obviously don’t know squat.

B125
B125
8 months ago

We are breaking the system just by doing nothing. In a way we are immensely powerful. COVID: I’m just not getting the vaccine! This small act of doing nothing whipped up the elites into fits of frenzied rage and hysteria. There seem to be many people who spewed the most vicious demonization towards unvaccinated individuals for over a year, calling for us to be locked into cages like animals. That now feels entitled to our support for their cause as they demand extreme violence against Palestinians. No. That’s not how it works. Ukraine & Israel: I’m just not supporting the… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

I like your general idea of rejecting their abuse and manipulation. But I foresee that any cluster of whites working/living/communicating with other whites will be targeted with lawfare, harassment, slander by the regime. “Live and let live” is not part of their mindset. Judging by behavior they genuinely hate us

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
8 months ago

No doubt. But AINO is weakening, morally, economically and militarily. In time, it’s ability to harm peripheral white regions will dwindle to insignificance.

Snooze
Snooze
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

The Washington regime obviously thought, well , let’s wrap the Hamas thing into support for our war in Ukraine.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  B125
8 months ago

On a more macro scale, hopefully Russia/China et al understand that the way to defeat Clown World is not by confronting it so much as by ignoring it.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

It would be nice if they could, but I guess it is complicated. The US is a rather large market in particular for China’s stuff. Europe is also tied up by the US, so that is another sizable market, not to mention other areas where the clear message is side with the ZOG or you are suddenly a “threat to democracy” that needs to be dealt with. So they can only ignore the ZOG to a certain degree. I think more accurately it is “wait it out” rather than ignore.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  c matt
8 months ago

From the signs, they will refuse to be drawn, other than when something they adjudge to be existential is attempted against their central national interests. Even then, their response will be carefully calibrated.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

That’s a rational response. You don’t want to get too close to a rabid dog lest you get bit. At the same time, a rabid dog has a limited life span. Wait, sit back, and be patient.

Wkathman
Wkathman
8 months ago

There has been speculation that Israeli nationalism acts as a substitute for ethnic nationalism unavailable to White Americans. Sounds plausible.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Wkathman
8 months ago

I think it’s a combination of two things, the first is the Americans root for the underdog and Israel has always been portrayed as tiny Israel against millions of heathen Arabs. The second reason though is the important one. Christianity especially evangelical Christianity has pounded into the skulls of everyone in their churches that Jews are God’ s chosen and any criticism or less than full throated support is a mortal sin. Until that changes, and it might as their bombing campaign becomes more barbaric, Israel can do no wrong.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

True. As Obi-Wan said: “These are not the Hebrews you are looking for.”

All part of their decades long propaganda. Same with the “Judeo-Christian” nonsense. There is no Judeo Christ.

Critical thinking skills were bred out of most Americans I guess.

Winter
Winter
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

“Critical thinking skills were bred out of most Americans I guess.” More like propagandized out of most Americans. We’re drowning in holocaust museums and movies about poor, oppressed Jews and evil moustache man. The problem is, once you realize that these stories are filled with glaring holes and inconsistencies, the propaganda stops working. It especially stops working when the same tribe screaming that it’s oppressed happens to control all levers of government and media — and when they use that power to vilify and persecute White Americans. These people hate us and are no longer bothering to hide it. Is… Read more »

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Winter
8 months ago

I grew up with all of the propaganda. I was a teenager when the USS Liberty was destroyed. Even as young and naive as I was, I knew then something was not Kosher in Tel Aviv.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

It’s pretty laughable, of course, that a parasitic entity whose population thinks it was totally OK to crucify Jesus is a Christian God’s “chosen”…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

Israel has traditionally been portrayed as an outpost of Western civilization and sacred democracy in a wilderness of Islamic savagery. Furthermore, Jews have been depicted as white. Those two tropes have played a large role in white America’s support for Israel. Alas, as AINO rapidly becomes less Western and whites are increasingly condemned as Blue-eye Ice Devils, that support will wane. In fact, it’s happening already.

manc
manc
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

If the Jews were God’s chosen they’d be better looking.

Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

A lot to unpack here. In a low trust society rulers have to rule using hard power. Using hard power is expensive, which is why the west used soft power to dominate over many decades. So-called “Freedom” and “Democracy” and “McDonalds” went a long way for globohomo to propagate itself worldwide. Those days are over. So I think the west continues rapidly toward a model of explicit hard power, boot on your face, much like China has done. This will intensify and get worse. Indeed, when ruling over a multi-ethnic empire hard power becomes the only way to govern over… Read more »

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

“They did it as a wedge strategy, as Muslims vote supermajority Democrat”

Maybe I’m off base, but if we take the D’s at their word and ‘whiteness’ is the bane of happiness, then the wedge strategy is to peg their enemies as explicitly white and then the wedge vote is an anti-white vote alone. Which may explain a lot of the incongruities of policies and interests from their big tent strategy.

Neoliberal Feudalism
Reply to  right2remainviolent
8 months ago

Yes, it’s called “intersectionality” and it basically means “everyone gang up on straight white Christians.” Intersectionality is represented in the following chart:

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Jews have demanded to be excluded from this wondrous privilege pyramid and that they’re not white on this basis (while at the same time arguing that they *are* white and should not be considered based on group behavior, only individual behavior), but as we are seeing, 75 IQ Ishmael Mohammed doesn’t understand the nuances of this argument.

Left Coast Inmate
Left Coast Inmate
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

“Jews have demanded to be excluded from this wondrous privilege pyramid”

This is simply the ‘flight from White’, other groups are doing this as well.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

Yes. I think the Cohens will find out the hard way that Ishmael does not understand.

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{[ samallhat ]]
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

That chart is fascinating.Have to print it and memorizing it. There might be a test on wednesday.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

Jews have scored a huge own goal by facilitating the importation of millions of Third Worlders into the West. Suddenly – as in the 1940s – they need Whiteman to bail them out from fearsome enemies. But this isn’t the West of 1940: Jewish-led feminization, faggotization, trannyism, race-mixing, Third-worldization, etc. have sapped its strength. We could not face a new Hitler or IMperial Japan, were they to emerge.

Oops! (and “OY VEY!”)

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

Mass immigration is the biggest disaster to ever befałl what is often called the West. If Jews were the central perpetrators of this it is hard not to conclude that Hitler was right about them. I don’t want this to be the case. But it is now clear that the deluge of POC into the West is a genuine genocide. So we are talking about top stakes here.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

“We could not face a new Hitler or IMperial Japan, were they to emerge.”

Well, yeah, those personalities were products of their time and as you said, it’s not the 1940s anymore and those kinds of wars aren’t fought anymore. Short of a nuclear exchange, I think the close of the twentieth century also brought to close many old notions regarding global world war and hegemonic tyranny.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Forever Templar
8 months ago

I fear the kind of people who could survive a nuclear exchange.

Mix the instincts of an African cannibal with the smarts of a white man, and what do you get?

Someone who could survive the Fall of the Ehdeen- Eden, as we say it- where meteors hit Abraham’s birthplace with the power of nuclear bombs.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

I might possibly have a plan in place to eat the neighbor who wanted me to pay for replacing HIS fence, should civilization collapse.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

You’re not serious about survival until you’ve sized up your more annoying neighbors for potential nutritional value

{[ smallhat}]
{[ smallhat}]
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

Jews did not brought 3 world to America any more then catholics or protestants. In fact the Catholic church is bringing them now and most of the ohter Cristian denominations also. And almost every church flies the tranny flag out front.

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

No, it does not end with Hamas. If and when Hamas would be ended, the battles continue with expansion into next region, and next, next, next. There are large natural gas fields all along the Mediterranean coast. Some are in front of Gaza, and the Gazans would benefit. That is intolerable. There is gas in front of Lebanon and Syria, places that also get attacked. There is the Litani River in Lebanon. Israel wants that. And Jordan, and and and. According to some, Shaddai gave everything from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates to Abraham. And somehow Abraham gave it all… Read more »

Neoliberal Feudalism
Reply to  Disruptor
8 months ago

Hi Disruptor, ownership of oil and gas is just one factor (and I think, a relatively minor one) among many. If you zoom out on a historical basis Islam only spreads over time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBaZYtrln54 The demographic changes in Europe tell the story, as the demographic shift dramatically favors Africans and Muslims. Additionally, *how* a society changes under Islam is also remarkably constant. See here for how it spreads and the effects it has: https://archive.ph/0SmvE Now, if you’re not a Muslim maybe you prefer a future as a Dhimmi under Islam instead of as a Noahide to Jewish power. But based… Read more »

Disruptor
Disruptor
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

Thanks. Yes, subjugation to Mideast themed overlordship does seem to be the tide. It feels like a barb wire funnel. We fight left and right, but the tide is moving deeper into the narrow portion. The Rabbis see Islam as a tool to use against us in their quest to Noahide regime, so it’s perhaps one and the same. Certainly Islam is more congruent to their world view. Islam hadn’t been an issue in American. Nor in Europe for six centuries. It is the same group who are bringing Islam to us now, that brought Islam to Spain back in… Read more »

old coyote
old coyote
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

Will the jews win this genocidal campaign against White (Christian) civilization? There are some in the PNW who are determined to not let this happen.

Ragnarok
Ragnarok
Reply to  Neoliberal Feudalism
8 months ago

This is rank defeatism. There are still hundreds of millions of us and we have repulsed far more destructive Asiatic invasions many times in the past. The generations after the Boomers are becoming less affected by the propaganda systems all the time(notwithstanding all the sexual nonsense).
We will prevail.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ragnarok
8 months ago

Of course we will. But we will endure some very dark–in more ways than one–times before doing so. The first Dark Age was economic, cultural and political. The second, which we are now entering, is demographic, aesthetic and political.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
8 months ago

I agree with just about everything you’ve written today but feel compelled to point out that the regime perhaps doesn’t feel compelled to “manufacture consensus.” If the electoral system is rigged, why bother? What difference does it make what the public thinks and feels as long as it doesn’t translate into violent riots and demonstrations? What I find interesting is the contempt in which US “leaders” and their European catamites are now held abroad. Blinken had to wait all evening for a meeting with MBS, who didn’t bother showing up until next morning for a perfunctory talk. Virtually no-one abroad… Read more »

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

D’accord. Couldn’t agree more.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

They do care about manipulating the public, though, even if the rubes’ opinion no longer matters (if it ever did). The collapse of trust has made manipulation far more difficult and every now and then the foot soldiers of the Ruling Class seem exasperated by their inability to control the narrative. Covid has played a major role in this and that in the long run may be its greatest impact. Note the absence of stats for how many sheep have been jabbed for the new and improved version of the jab, to cite one instance. It may be close to… Read more »

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

The removal of Boomers is/will be the big demographic/societal change. So much so that the list seems endless. For one, the knee jerk CivNats will forever be in the population minority.

For another, the wealth ($40-60T) of the Boomers passes on to the Millennials who have experienced for most all of their lifetimes a limited lifestyle not compatible to their parents. The Millennials will assume some improved station (power) in life without the baggage of appreciation for the “system” that the Boomer’s had.

Interesting times that I will never live to see.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  compsci
8 months ago

The wealth transfer will make for a powerful plurality. The money won’t change hands without notice, of course, and that may set up quite the power move.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

> If the electoral system is rigged, why bother? What difference does it make what the public thinks and feels as long as it doesn’t translate into violent riots and demonstrations?

It’s not about “winning” elections or “controlling” the populace. Our rulers are almost universally emotionally-stunted Cluster B types who have a deep-rooted psychological need to be fawned over and praised. It’s not a strategy, it’s a symptom of derangement.

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Very well said. And in addition to the following: “need to be fawned over and praised” they also refuse to let anyone just walk away.

We’re ruled by Amber Heards; only mostly uglier.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

Our money they can take at will. The only thing for which they need popular approval/cooperation is a ground war. Good luck forcing a populace to go fight an unpopular war for the benefit of a foreign power that repeatedly rapes us. The only other fear they may have is a “drop out” of a consumerist mindset, but that is a long way off at best.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
8 months ago

> I do wonder now how much they broke with their bizarre reaction to the WuFlu. The right eventually won the narrative war in Covid, only it was two years too late. Even the most https://twitter.com/MrAlanSchmidtregime aligned shill avoids trying to defend it now. The right also finally won the St. George Floyd narrative, also far too late though. While it would have been nice to win these when they mattered, the right’s ability to organically message and stay persistent against these propaganda operations are creating a hard and jaded populace that is sick of being lied to, hence the… Read more »

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

Some Covidians will remain holed up in their neuroses like a South Pacific Jap hunkered down in a jungle cave.

My dentist’s hygenist was a quivering pile of fear for the entirety of the pandemic. So this afternoon I was scheduled for a routine cleaning but I got a call this morning that the visit would have to be postponed because the hygienist had “had her vaccines over the weekend and wasn’t handling them very well.”

It won’t make a difference. She’ll dutifully line up for these jabs every year until one of them finally finishes her off.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  KGB
8 months ago

I’m gonna say somewhere around 5% permanently broken by the plandemic, in that sense. I still see them with their masks and I’m not in a blue city/state. Which is a smaller percentage than those of us who are permanently distrustful.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  KGB
8 months ago

It is sad. They are advertising about a 75 percent rate of the population that took at least two jabs. Very disappointing. I have been depressed since then.

How could they all have been so stupid? The good news is that the jabs are not being received very well. I hope not.

george 1
george 1
Reply to  george 1
8 months ago

Should have said the “New Jabs” are not being received well.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  KGB
8 months ago

The article has just been accepted for (re)publication. It’s been repressed for almost a year:

https://www.publichealthpolicyjournal.com/_files/ugd/adf864_4c3afc4436234a96aa1f60bb6e677719.pdf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Skidmore has basically been cleared of academic integrity claims and is once more free to publish such analysis.

Basically he claims, from publish government data, “… that the number (with 95% confidence) of American jab deaths as of December 31, 2021 is probably between 229,319 and 344,319.”

Yep, keep those boosters coming.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  compsci
8 months ago

If that number is correct, then the “cure” most assuredly was worse than the disease.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
8 months ago

Kill the men in wars, the general culture with crime…

And sterilize the next generation of women.

This is pure genocide. They want what is ours.

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
8 months ago

If Ben Shapiro was happy to lie about Covid, why would he be telling the truth about Israel?

I do wonder now how much they broke with their bizarre reaction to the WuFlu. I don’t think I’m overly prone to normalcy bias when it comes to their machinations but it’s only now beginning to settle in to my mind that they broke a bunch of stuff that can never be repaired, that nothing will ever be “right” ever again. I have to think that has some impact on their script engine.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
8 months ago

I too thought I was being skeptical but repeatedly had to admit that I was not nearly skeptical enough. That the BS was far bigger than I could have possibly imagined at first. Honestly no idea where we’re headed, on either side of the North Atlantic. But it’s not looking good, it really isn’t

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
8 months ago

That was a big one, but it is more the never ending cycle of things that Covid kicked off. All but the dimmest bulbs have started to figure out the press exists to create outrage cycles and get people worked into a lather about issues that they cannot control. The cycle became obvious when people who were still Covid zealots switched to Ukraine in one day in early 2022. Now that the Ukraine cycle has exhausted itself they have switched to Israel. Also, an increasing number of white Christians have figured out the chosen ones really do hate our guts.… Read more »

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Barnard
8 months ago

All that other stuff we can put behind us though, even letting blacks/commies destroy cities (more) can be waved off as a jump in the “black tax” that we all have been paying since the dawn of civilization. Those lockdowns though…. There was an effort to set stuff up to be the way it was, but nothing has ever quite right since then; too many retirements/deaths, too much maintenance not performed, too many broken business/personal relationships. Much like starting a car after it has sat in the driveway unused for several years everything seems to kinda work, but there’s lots… Read more »

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Barnard
8 months ago

“The overturn of Roe when some Jews claimed unrestricted abortion was part of their religion, that they didn’t really practice otherwise, didn’t help their cause with their most loyal supporters/suckers.”

In Barnard’s head this really happened.

So, he’s a loon.

Out here in the real world, where a majority of Jews were, I am quite sure, opposed to overturning Casey, it didn’t.

roo_ster
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

Gandydancer, you are a smallhat suck-up and a liar. May you burn on earth before you burn in Hell.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  roo_ster
7 months ago

Add one more self-discrediting bloviator to my score of gibbering morons accusing me of lying without being able to identify anything I’ve said that is untrue.

You are a pathetic lot.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
8 months ago

Well, it starts like an Oliver Stone-like cinematic conspiracy theory. And why not? The official version is certainly BS. But it plays out instead like “Reservoir Dogs”… Characters: Hamas: wanted to interrupt the rapprochement of Iran and Saudi and the establishment of diplomatic relations between Saudi and Israel. Israel: wanted to attack Iran with a US Administration in power gullible enough to support it, knowing the political window of opportunity was closing, maybe willfully blind to a provocation? American supporters of Israel: totally misreading the room, thinking they are still as strong as they used to be, ignoring the flashing… Read more »

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Captain Willard
8 months ago

Don’t forget one of the biggest reasons for it all. Netanyahu desperate to keep his ass in power and out of prison. He would destroy the world to make sure that doesn’t happen.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mike
8 months ago

If ever you were curious as to the extremes to which a narcissistic sociopath would resort to “save themselves”, look no further than Netanyahu.

Dry End of the Titanic
Dry End of the Titanic
Reply to  Captain Willard
8 months ago

(think Ukraine and the “Italian Job”)
“You’re only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_PX1cVuaVA

TomA
TomA
8 months ago

Dan Bongino (who normally says at least a few sensible things) has gone full retard in his support for Israeli revenge against the Palestinians. He wants blood, lots of it, and cheers on every act of collective slaughter no matter how many innocents pay the ultimate price for what a few hundred Hamas criminals did. He has done a half dozen shows in this vein while spitting rage-fueled F-bombs endlessly. Unhinged is too mild a description for his vitriol. I have now come to believe that he gets his paycheck every week after getting up off his knees, such is… Read more »

Carl B.
Carl B.
Reply to  TomA
8 months ago

Are you saying “Not All Sandnaggers Are Like That?”
Look, I’m fine with a Jewish next door neighbor. But I don’t want any Nagger savages, sand or otherwise, moving in.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Carl B.
8 months ago

There are (IMO) a lot of “good Jews next door”. Jews falling from the faith is no less a problem for them than us. However, as this event has shown, how can you tell if you have a “sleeper” next door? 🙁

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  TomA
8 months ago

> He wants blood, lots of it, and cheers on every act of collective slaughter no matter how many innocents pay the ultimate price for what a few hundred Hamas criminals did.

How much more evidence do people need that Bongino never left the intel community, and “radio host” is not his real job?

Valley Lurker
Valley Lurker
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

In the late 90s spy thriller Ronin, *spoiler alert* at the end he admits he never got out, he’s cover of being “former” just a clever rouse.

Its the same with all these guys, little reason to believe otherwise.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
8 months ago

I can strongly relate to the journey from high trust to low trust. There have been many bumps on the road. Election night 2020 was definitely one for me. Nothing can persuade me that was on the level. And if elections are totally cooked all bets are off. J6, lawfare against Trump (not a fan of him but it is what it is)…. eventually you start to realize it’s all lies

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
8 months ago

American society used to be low trust. The founders, setting up a government, warned the people to be vigilant and hold them accountable.

“Old people still trust the system, but young people have no faith in it. On the other hand, many people are learning to trust those who have earned their trust.”

I see this as a positive development, something more fundamentally American, frankly. DC is making itself irrelevant. Power will devolve, is devolving, to the local, which has its scumbags but is more trustworthy, because it’s more accountable.

Keep it going!

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
8 months ago

I think the main thing holding it up is state and local being dependent on federal largesse, with strings attached. When the money goes away, the center of power will shift, and fast.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
8 months ago

> Two weeks on and most Americans are more interested in the NFL scores than Israel and Gaza. Then you have the large pro-Palestinian protests breaking out all over the West. The pro-Israel propaganda could be seen as a net negative at this point, as it’s just galvanizing the pro-Palestine side and the Israeli message is falling on deaf ears. Then you have online nutcases who scream about a final solution to the Palestine problem. No surprise they also tend to be DeSantis people, as they are participating in what can only be seen as anti-optics. It would be better… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

It used to not really bother me that Israel had nukes. The way they’re talking now I’m not so sure that’s such a good thing

Mike_C
Mike_C
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
8 months ago

The Samson Option isn’t about nuking, say Tehran and Damascus if things look terminal for Israel. That might be done, but it’s not the point. Samson is explicitly about nuking European capitals (or so persons who act as if they are in the know say).

Why nuke European capitals? You tell me. I’d hazard a guess of:
1. Blackmail to push Euros to oppress and torment those Israel sees as enemies;
2. “Because you didn’t love us enough to keep us safe, so you deserve i!” It’s a very narcissistic way of looking at the world.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Mike_C
8 months ago

I’ve read that too and that only augments the thought that they shouldn’t have them of course. It also provokes grimmer thoughts if I may just leave it at that

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Mike_C
8 months ago

Hard to believe this, but as mentioned above, in a world of lies what is believable or unbelievable any more?

I could think of no act worse for the Jewish people than the nuking of European capitals as a final “FU” to the world. More Jews live outside Israel than within. Turn their adopted homelands against them and you’d have a 21st century “Pogrom” of worldwide dimension.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Mike_C
8 months ago

Compsci, The Big Jews, the self-denominated machers, have no compunctions about letting the Little Jews pay the price for their delusions. Upon the ascendancy of Hitler, “World Jewry” decided to declare war on Germany. Prior to that, Hitler wanted the Jews out, but after that, and the attempt to exercise “sanctions” (maybe the first determined use of that, and later used against Imperial Japan) against Germany, all talk of controlled emigration was gone. The Big Jews put themselves beyond the reach of harm, and then cynically exploited the harms to the Little Jews to serve as a tool of propaganda… Read more »

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Mike_C
8 months ago

Samson was intended as a sort of reverse mutually assured destruction. The Jews suspect that the Arabs and Iranians might be willing to give up a few cities in order to eradicate them, or at least given the genocidal behavior of the Jews the Arabs can only assume that they’d be butchered by them anyways so MAD wouldn’t work with them. So the plan was that by threatening to take the capitals of Europe down with them, they essentially extort the West into making sure they never lose a war. The narcissistic element comes in when the Jews don’t understand… Read more »

My Comment
My Comment
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

Bibi was playing to his base. They want to ethnically cleanse Palestine and create a Greater Israel. They aren’t able to get away with that but they found but they can continue to oppress the Palestinians. Nearly all White nations showed that they have Israel’s back even if they completely genocide the Palestinians. The problem for Israel is the rest of the world. However, Muslim nations showed that they fear the US and won’t act unless Israel goes full genocide. Their fear is well founded as Libya and Iraq show. We might not be able to win wars and are… Read more »

Natarnsco
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

“The pro-Israel propaganda could be seen as a net negative at this point, as it’s just galvanizing the pro-Palestine side and the Israeli message is falling on deaf ears.”

Yep. This the first major war in Israel taking place where nearly everybody who is interested are watching it unfold on the internet. People are seeing just how ham-fisted Israel actually is at propaganda when information and narrative isn’t under tight control.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Chet Rollins
8 months ago

I think a huge eye opener was how the anti-woke IDW crowd is suddenly filled with the rage that whites surely feel living day after day in an anti-white society. Another eye opener was oligarchs pulling their endowments from Universities where anti-white rhetoric and activism is a daily norm. Another eye opener was private firms and academics openly refusing jobs and rescinding job offers I know several whites who had job offers rescinded because they were white and the firm needed more POCs. Aside from Shapiro and watching Israeli officials going postal on teleprompter readers and Russian teleprompter readers, the… Read more »

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  RealityRules
8 months ago

A couple more shovels of coking coal to shove into the furnace: A cabinet where 12 of the members are dual citizens. This was pointed out to me at the latest White Papers podcast: https://whitepapersinstitute.substack.com/p/the-white-papers-podcast-e23#details A Secretary of State who flies in as an emissary of the great superpower to be diplomatic who comes and states that he comes as a member of the tribe of one side and who also comes bearing dual citizenship. This comes a couple of weeks after the head of the DOJ pulls up crocodile tears before Congress in the name of a wrong that… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  RealityRules
8 months ago

The test will come if the conflagration gets to the point the ZOG decides to send foot soldiers. Then we will see how many normies are willing to go, if a draft is required, how many dodge it, if imported mercenaries decide the food stamps aren’t worth it and go home, etc., etc. Could be a real shite show.

On the other hand, normie could just fall right into the Greatest Ally trap and happily march off. At least that will cull the normie crowd some.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  c matt
8 months ago

Yes. If the Historic American Nation and its contingent in the military were organized this could be the end of the regime. I doubt the organization required to do this is there. Still, a serious moment of truth for the GAE.

Certainly the GAE’s adversaries’ timing took into account the GAE’s color revolution in its own homeland.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
8 months ago

I just finished “The Agony Of The Script Writers”. Thank you folks, you are magnificent.

(I found myself going off the religious deep end and shut up; apologies to all.)

An interesting note is that the Rave Raid may not have been an attack on the rave at all.

Someone noted that Hamas was attacking an Israeli military site; the rave was, oddly, staged next to it, venue changed suddenly?

The rave goers tried to flee; the IDF blocked the road(s) and forced them back into the middle of the field of fire.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

Your capacity to believe and invent bullshit is remarkable.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Alzaebo
8 months ago

It is to be recalled that some of those in a kibbutz that was invaded recounted that the IDF was operating on the “Kill ’em all, let Gid sort them out” rules, and wasted a bunch of the dwellers in the kibbutz. So, your story seems pretty credible with that in mind.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
8 months ago

Not “recalling” any such thing.

JerseyJeffersonian
JerseyJeffersonian
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

That’ll be traceable to you being an incurious twat.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  JerseyJeffersonian
7 months ago

If you had any credible evidence for your tall tales you could supply links. And Id be as curious to look at them as I have at one or two above. (E.g., the ~”That Israel bombed the hospital is proven by this video of an Israeli soldier scared off from throwing a grenade at an ambulance by the sight of cameras” bullshit link.) But instead all you have is bullshit assertions. You and all your pals are pathetic.

David Wright
Member
8 months ago

Remember that recent photo of Biden, Kirby, Blinken and raisin lady on Air Force one?
Without a word most Americans can grok the total ineptitude and guile of these midwit grifters and gaslighters. Who can trust anything spit out by these cretins?

Not that it will matter that much, but I do hope the responses to these events will open the flood gates for Joe Normies to come to our side.

Bartleby the Scrivner
Bartleby the Scrivner
8 months ago

If the MSM said the sun rises in the east, I would want to check it out for myself.

As for the kerfuffle in the sandbox, I’ll start paying attention right after the southern border is sealed. It’s breathtaking that the asshats in charge want to secure other borders, while ours is nonexistent. It’s like fighting the fire at your neighbors house, while yours burns down.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Bartleby the Scrivner
8 months ago

More like fighting the fire several states away while yours burns down.

Kippi
Kippi
Reply to  c matt
8 months ago

… and you lit both fires.

mikebravo
mikebravo
8 months ago

Three options to solve the Israel/Palestine s#it show.
1. They learn to live together.. Fat chance!
2. Israel runs the Palestinians outa town.
3. Palestinians along with the rest of the A-Rabs run the Jews outa town.

Nothing else works. Get on with it and leave the rest of us alone.

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  mikebravo
8 months ago

Agree. Now here’s the naughty thought experiment:

Would you rather relocate 2 million Palestinians to the U.S. (distributed around how you see fit) OR

Relocate 6 million Israelis to the U.S. (they’ll go mostly to NYC and LA, because that’s where they dominate now)?

(Correct answer is “no thanks” to both. We’ve enough problems here already)

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  ProZNoV
8 months ago

No one, particularly Arab nations, want Gazan refugees for obvious reasons. They’re like plague rats.

But, I think it’s interesting to wonder how many Gazans would ACTUALLY leave if given the opportunity. Hamas needs the human shields, martyrdom is goal for many, and others see moving 1 mile further away from Jerusalem as surrender.

My own guess is that refugees would be limited to those with the inclination and bribe money, and those who Hamas deploys as agents.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  mikebravo
8 months ago

I agree because it all comes down to control of Jerusalem. Jews and Muslims are both willing to sacrifice everything they have for it, and always will.

Mr. Generic
Mr. Generic
Reply to  mikebravo
8 months ago

May I propose?

4. Mossad and the CIA stop funding and arming violent terrorist organizations that destabilize regional governments.

mikebravo
mikebravo
Reply to  Mr. Generic
8 months ago

Violent savages without guns just use sharp objects.
The hatred is written in their magic books and fed to babes in arms.
Separation is the only way.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  mikebravo
8 months ago

mikebravo: I would like them all – Israelis, Palestinians, IDF, Hamas, etc. – – to just go away. As in, turn the whole area to glass. No more Judeo-Christian pilgrimages to the “Holy Land.” No more painting collective ‘kibbutz’ life as warm and wonderful and western. No more siding with one alien tribe or another. I am far from a biblical scholar but I don’t recall Jesus telling his disciples to instruct the world to make pilgrimages to various dusty spots as eternally ‘holy.’ I thought becoming a Christian meant an internal turning (repentance) and a change in self, not… Read more »

Member
8 months ago

What would happen if conservatives were to start praising Islam for how they treat women and homosexuals as well as their decisive treatment of criminals? (think chop chop after Friday prayers in Riyadh)

I like the idea of making left wing heads explode

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
Reply to  FNC1A1
8 months ago

Go to a U.S. city during a pro Palestinian rally with a big sign saying “Islam is right about women” and see who beats you up first.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  ProZNoV
8 months ago

Best Comment of the day!

roo_ster
Member
Reply to  FNC1A1
7 months ago

On subjects such as these, when muslims are correct, they OUGHT to be praised.

Mr C
Mr C
8 months ago

You mentioned Israel blowing up hospitals but you also mention both sides pushing their agenda. How would we possible know who blew up the hospital? By placing blame, one would think you are declaring which group is more right/less wrong?

I choose to watch, knowing the US will likely get dragged further into this thing. I cannot keep the score myself and I cannot trust the narratives of either side.

Filthie
Filthie
Member
Reply to  Mr C
8 months ago

Why the dislikes? While I can’t speak for our esteemed blog host, Mr. C… I think that may have been a semantic slip? What I am hearing now is that it was a defective Pali rocket that blew up the hospital….and that it landed in the parking lot, not the hospital itself. Who knows? I am in the camp of “a pox on both sides”. I want nothing to do with the blood feuds of jews and moslems. I hate them both and could care less. I will not be moved to hate Palies more because of propaganda showing decapitated… Read more »

compsci
compsci
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

No good guys and really no civilians. They provide the forest that hides the enemy at best and at worse supply the enemy with needed supplies of men, food and equipment.

The concept of “civilians” is a modern one at best. Genghis Khan was notorious for wiping out entire populations as a safe guard to his rear.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

“When you fire missiles into urban areas full of civilians, you will inevitably miss and hit something your should not target.”

The level of generality used here is inappropriate.

The hospital is still standing. The “500 dead” claim is demonstrably bogus. Normally you’re better than this.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Filthie
8 months ago

None of the Pali rockets that land in Israel do anything remotely like that level of damage

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
8 months ago

WHAT level of damage?

We’ve seen the parking lot. There isn’t even an obvious crater.

I’ve seen drone footage of the area. One nearby roof had a hole in it. No collapsed buildings.

What are you believing that contradicts my lying eyes?

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Here I must confess (again) to my not following the fracas real closely. (why would I?) I have certainly not looked at any pictures. But I was unable to escape the headlines about 500 dead. That damage.

If that was a lie, it is indeed my fault for even remotely accepting anything they report as the truth

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
8 months ago

Yes, if you still believe leugenpresse headlines, that IS your fault.

The “500 dead” claim is completely debunked.

Given the antisemitic infestation that is the population of this comment thread I expect lots of downvotes.

But, as upthread, repeatedly, no factual responses.

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
Reply to  Mr C
8 months ago

The Israelis took credit for blowing up the hospital in a tweet. The tweet came down pronto when they realised the popular outrage unleashed and then concocted a cock-and-bull story of how the fireworks the Hamas had had somehow blown up the hospital. Bollocks.

compsci
compsci
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

“The Israelis took credit for blowing up the hospital…”

That Tweet is widely published. It was an apology, not a brag and followed up by a retraction as incorrect/premature news.

As Z-man said, in a war in a heavily populated area of non-combatants, you will inevitably have such incidents. I seem to remember in Gulf war 1, we lobed a missile into a Baghdad air raid shelter killing well over 100 non-combatants.

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Arshad Ali
8 months ago

“The Israelis took credit for blowing up the hospital in a tweet. The tweet came down pronto when they realised the popular outrage unleashed and then concocted a cock-and-bull story of how the fireworks the Hamas had had somehow blown up the hospital. Bolloks.”

Bollocks, yourself.. https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/oct/19/explaining-a-deleted-x-post-that-said-israel-is-re/

Gandydancer
Member
Reply to  Gandydancer
7 months ago

To make this clear …yeah, it’s Politifact, which is embarrassing. E.g, it appears to accept uncritically the claim that the explosion killed hundreds, despite including a photo that makes this lie laughable. But it also includes enough actual information to debunk compsci’s lies. And it’s what duckduckgo turned up so, employing tongs, I’ve used it.

Felix Krull
Member
8 months ago

Among the young and left-wing, the Palestinians are becoming the cool new victim group.

That’s hardly new. Palestine has been a Commie cause celebre for half a century, until about ten years ago – right after Occupy Wall Street, incidentally, when the left decided it had bigger fish to fry than transnational banking cartels, namely homophobes, misogynists and racists.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  thezman
8 months ago

Dropping the Palestinians from the roster of victims goes back much further in America

Hmm… Now that you mention it, I struggle to even recall an American pro-Pally figurehead – except Chris Hitchens who wasn’t really American to begin with.

Notice, by the way, how these Hamas demonstrations have been (unironically) fiery but largely peaceful – Mohammadans don’t burn down cities like joggers do.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

…except Chris Hitchens who wasn’t really American to begin with.

And who seems to have redirected his xenophilia towards Kurds about the time he got his US citizenship.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

Until recently, America had largely been pro-Israel while Western Europe had largely been pro-Palestine. It defined the post-war period right up until, I guess, 2015. When I lived in Europe fifteen years ago, I remember those Palestinian scarves being in fashion. I also watched a lot of BBC News, and there was a definite pro-Palestinian slant. (Much, much more than I ever saw on CBS News.) The people, at least the people whom I associated with, who were normal professional types, were definitely more center-left than my American associates. To them America symbolized a kind of imperial rightist entity (“rightist”… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Marko
8 months ago

Great summation. The scarves were a big thing in Copenhagen well into the late eighties, and the Pallies were the lefties’ favorite stalking horse until 1992, when they occupied a church bringing a few hundred Pallies for props and claiming “church asylum” for their rabid pets. State media loved it. The cops made short work of the Commies and bussed off the Pallies, but then boohooing happened and the parliament voted through an infamous, unconstitutional “special law” (a law aimed at a specific person or group) that extraordinarily awarded those 300 Pallies residency permits. They thanked Denmark by immediately going… Read more »

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Marko
8 months ago

Marko: I remember seeing those scarves all over Europe in the early ’80s. That differing, less judeocentric view of the Levant (or at least questioning all I’d been taught about history and politics) was part and parcel of my stepping onto the dissident path. Trying to understand how others saw the US and world events, without network media as the middleman, was a genuine education.

Nicholas Name
Nicholas Name
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

I would say they don’t burn things down YET. Muslims are disciplined rioters/demonstrators. Right now the guys with the biggest turbans are showing their strength in order to temper pro-Israel policy.

I believe they will deliberately become “vibrant” when they see fit.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Nicholas Name
8 months ago

Just so.

And it’s also worth noticing that they’re not going Death Con 3 for Hamas.

Jack Dodson
Jack Dodson
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

The difference is the embrace of the Palestinian cause has spread outside Commieworld now and into places that actually matter.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jack Dodson
8 months ago

I doubt it will last long. The Pallies are the biggest assholes on Arab Street, and the only immigrants who commit more crime than Somalis. Nobody likes them.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

The counter to that point is blacks, who are worshipped harder the more problematic they become, but we’ll see.

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  Felix Krull
8 months ago

Gaza could be like Singapore if Hamas put down their weapons and made a serious bid for peace with Israel. But that’s not the Islamic way…as countries like France, Sweden and Britain are starting to discover.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

Big difference: The Pallies were imported into France, Sweden and Britain. It’s the jews who were imported into Palestine. So I would expect Pallies in the Levant to be warlike, and can’t really blame them for it. On the other hand, they have no excuse to act that way in France, Sweden and Britain.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jannie
8 months ago

Gaza could never be Singapore, because Gaza is populated by Arabs. Nothing to do with Islam.