The false dilemma is an informal fallacy which is based on the false premise that there are only two options in a particular situation. The fallacy is not in the logic, as with other fallacies, but in the premise. It is a useful rhetorical trick, so it turns up in political debates and propaganda. “We must do X or Y will happen” with Y being something everyone assumes to be bad. The idea is to limit the choices to one that is preferred and one that no one would willingly choose.
It is such a highly effective rhetorical strategy that what we call conservatism rests on a foundation of false choices. No matter what the left proposes, the right opposes by offering an option that is doomed to fail versus what the left proposes. A good example was the homosexual marriage debate. The left proposed redefining marriage to mean sharing rent and a bed. Instead of rejecting this out of hand, the right proposes civil unions, thus leaving us with two degenerate options.
We are seeing this again with the war over the antiwhite pogroms labeled Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. It is not an accident that the acronym DEI could easily be DIE, as the people behind this do not hide their intensions. When they say they want to eliminate whiteness, there is only one way this can happen. If one were to call for eliminating Jewishness, you get compared to Hitler. Therefore, logic dictates that when they say they want to eliminate whiteness, they mean white people.
Under normal circumstance, when someone makes a credible threat on your life, the response is not to offer a compromise or pretend the threat is not real, but that is exactly what conservatives are doing in the face of these pogroms. Christopher Rufo says the only option to these antiwhite pogroms is for white people to embrace a colorblind morality. In other words, white people should put all their energy into a fantasy program rather than defend themselves.
The vision of a colorblind society may be appealing, but the fact that it does not exist and has never existed is called a clue. Whites have displayed some capacity to live under such a regime, but nonwhites clearly cannot exist this way. Outside of European lands, the skins game is the rule. We will never see non-European societies fling open their doors and invite the world into their lands. As we see every day, when these people enter European lands, they bring the skins game with them.
What Rufu is offering up is a false choice. You can put all your energy into this fantasy of a colorblind, multi-racial, multi-ethnic society or you can succumb to the antiwhite pogroms that are raging right now. The point of framing it this way is to eliminate other options, like whites joining the skins game. Not only does this framing sideline other more reasonable options, but it also subtly endorses the moral claim by the left that there is something immoral about whiteness.
Another example is this Elon Musk post in which he says, “Discrimination on the basis of anything other than merit is wrong.” The natural response should be, “who says?” but that is not what you see in the replies. Instead, everyone accepts the false choice that you can either allow nonwhites to play the skins game unopposed or you dream of a day when no one plays the skins game. Again, whites joining in on the skins game and maybe winning at it is off the table.
As an aside, his comment should make everyone’s skin crawl. He is saying that having personal preferences is immoral. Since all humans have tastes and preferences, a feature that makes up a large part of our nature, he is hoping to anathematize most of what makes us human. For Musk, the ideal human is a moist robot. This is the thinking that lies behind the culture war. With the right amount of force, people can be re-coded into what society needs or simply eliminated from the population.
Regardless, the point of his post is to foreclose the parsimonious option which is to let people discriminate for any reason they like. Free association was the foundation of America into the last century. The settlers to the New World literally acted on their belief that people should live where they want and with whom they want, which is why they got on boats and came to the wilderness. The immigrants of the 19th and 20th century acted on the same premise.
Of course, the ultimate false choice, the very heart of American conservatism, is the assertion that they cannot use the same tactics as their opponent or exact revenge when they have power, because that would make them as bad as the left. In other words, the choice presented as conservatism is to adhere to a set of rules that guarantee failure or succumb to some abstract conception of moral turpitude that is somehow worse than losing.
In the end, the culture war is not a clash of visions, but rather a struggle among white people about how best to avoid the fight. The winning side in this fight has always relied on some form of the false choice in order to prevent engaging the people called the left in the culture war. This means the path to victory in this civilizational struggle starts with overthrowing conservatism and its spiderweb of false choices. In its place is a new form of identity politics to counter the current identity politics.
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Mao also knew how to add . . . an atomic war might kill 300 million Chinese but China would remain the most populous on earth. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1964/10/17/Maos-theory-on-atomic-bomb-They-cant-kill-us-all/1653831424805/
What Rufo is arguing for is a mulatto society, which he thinks will be the end of “racism.” I would argue that it would be more stratified than ever, for a mulatto society is highly discriminatory. Take a look at Brazil where the depth of one’s color really matters. Search for the paper bag test” wherein blacks show just how accepting they are …
I doubt anyone here is accusing Dondi of being a real human being. Something is waaaay off about him, besides being gae and a liar and shill.
It is not possible for whites to play “the skins game.” The skins game is a grift that only exists within the context of a larger culture (somewhat equivocally designated “white”) that still generally believes in erring on the side of generosity and tolerance when dealing with those who, for whatever reason, are considered cultural outsiders. If whites tried to act the way that minorities act within historically white societies, there would be no one for them to petition. There is no culture “above whiteness” for whites to make their appeal to, and no one to supply the gibs that… Read more »
Oh gosh, how naive and wrong. The gibs as you put it do not derive from the people in a primary sense, but from politicians who cater to their greed. The gibs are developed through the current political process to buy votes.and political contributions. I would also say that the biggest beneficiary of “gibs” are not the people per se but large corporations and oligarchs. The “gibs” that finally reach the masses are so much table scraps. So really what needs to be spoken about is a change to the current political situation. But at that point we come full… Read more »
The system is here and has been for sixty years. Despite decades of conservatives whining along the same lines that you are (it’s not fair, it’s unjust, it retards bad behavior and incompetence), it’s only gotten stronger. Do you need another six decades to realize that strategy does not work? Yea, sure, “the rules that govern the public space should not entitle any class or citizens to extract rents at the expense of other classes” – sounds great. I agree. Problem is, the rules DO entitle that, what now? Conservatives have no answer, which is how Whites became 2nd class… Read more »
“ Conservatives have no answer, which is how Whites became 2nd class citizens in their own countries. The only way to reverse that is for Whites to start extracting rents at the expense of other classes too – period.”
Exactly. We allow others (non-White minorities) to use our virtues against us. These minorities have set the “rules of engagement”, not us—so follow them unashamedly. Their game, their rules.! Leave your virtues at the area door, enter, win, then retrieve your virtues when you leave. As 3g4me has said, those virtues are for you and yours—not them.
Or, you know, we could stand up for ourselves and stop being everyone’s bitch.
Discrimination is fine. I discriminate every day to the benefit of my children. Whites (or the various white tribes) should do the same with our extended families.
I don’t give two shits what other races do. If they want to be morons like whites and not favor their own people, well, that’s fine. Whites should create our own communities and guard them well.
Uh, blacks had the system that removed the incentives. It was called America before the Civil Rights Act and The Great Society.
Their entire project since then is built around destroying those incentives and creating a patronage and handout network. They will do anything to perpetuate and deepen it. This includes using absolute criminal scum like Martin, Brown and Floyd as martyrs if that is what it takes.
“Black people, for example, are not unreservedly partial to other blacks. Minorities only stick together within the context of that grift that takes place within the larger society (i.e. the skins game) which is itself a somewhat artificial and contrived political grouping”.
You lost me here. You’d be far fetched to write something more ridiculous than this. Apparently you missed the election of Barack Obama, the acquittal of OJ, and the overdose of St. Floyd, just to name a few.
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
Never agreed with this.
I understood it as poetry, but not as a practicality. If the monsters are not battled BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, they shall win.
It’s a warning against becoming womanly.
It’s from a book, not a fortune cookie.
Nietzsche was wrong. Hell, every damn philosopher from the Enlightenment onwards was wrong. We are not all created equal.
I think he referred to the monsters (as well as abyss) interior to one’s psyche (or soul).
He would doubtless have subscribed his race playing the skins game.
The false choice was a luxury item of the “end of history” when China had not yet risen and Russia was a shambles, and the Third World had no counter for the US Navy. None of those are true now. The US Navy cannot crush the Houthis who in turn can shut down the Suez Canal quite effectively. The huge inflationary spiral of tankers having to transit around Africa is just now being felt. Cheap, massively available drones and such are something the US Navy has no answer for, at least near-shore. The US cannot crush Russia in Ukraine. All… Read more »
Whiskey for the win today. Great comment.
Oh dear! Oh me oh my! I would gladly fight on behalf of our Jewish masters if only they would toss us White unworthies a mere crumb from their table! God bless us, every one!
This is a good illustration that that ship already sailed, and fighting the internal enemy is the only feasible choice they have left.
Whiskey: ref US Navy & Suez Canal Container-ship arrivals in the Gulf of Aden were at their lowest level on record last week, down 90% from the 2023 average… Bulk carrier arrivals in the Gulf of Aden were in line with historical averages, but the moving average of tanker transits had fallen to 14 / day as this week – the lowest level since May 2022 and down from an average of 22 per day a month ago. All that, combined with low water levels (whether due natural, or ‘climate change’ causes) for Panama Canal transits is a two-fer that… Read more »
It’s very easy for the US Military to steam roll the Houthis, they just choose not to take the necessary measures that would end this. You simply need to ruthlessly smash them and the civilian infrastructure, but they are unwilling to rid the world of these creatures for moral reasons.
Idiot.
You can bomb sand and rocks forever. That is the pretty much the Houthi “infrastructure”.
The only way to subdue these people is boots on the ground. And they have plenty of experience at the kind of fighting as well.
But perhaps if the USSA can draft an armchair general such as yourself, you can show they way.
Hope you are good at leading trannies and Central Americans and making do with less. (You no doubt have been too busy formulating strategy to realize there is a recruitment and material crisis in your military.)
Again, too many people in these circles fall into the trap of assuming the Western regime is entirely incompetent because certain things don’t work so well (like inflation or crime).
They could absolutely kill or displace 95+% of that part of Yemen by intentionally bombing of civilians and infrastructure until Yemeni culture and Islam ceases to exist there without putting boots on the ground. Furthermore, warfare is increasingly becoming automated with fewer people needed to pull physical triggers. They’re simply unwilling to exterminate these people.
There’s an ammo problem. If they carpet bombed Yemen they wouldn’t have anything left for Ukraine and Israel. And who knows what else that is on the horizon.
This describes two sides, one of which sees the other as an enemy to be extirpated. The other sees a “right honorable opponent”. An ax murderer in a cage with a butler, how’s that going to end?
Like a Monty Python skit.
Brilliant! What is important to Conservatives is to preserve a notion, or an ideal not a people. They really want to preserve meritocracy. That is a worthy goal. They do not understand that the only people who play that game the way they want it played are historically and are now, people of European ancestry – white people. The other thing they want to preserve is a system where the government does not use coercion. You could see a system where the force of the government was changed to being used to enforce what amounts to white dispossession via the… Read more »
“the conservative case for giving your child’s college funds to the highest scoring kid in your street”.
That is what they’re doing on the macro level
Correction: give your child’s college funds to the Chinese or Indian kid in your street who does the best job of cheating on the SAT.
Come on! They are not cheating. They are smart and they are diligent and they are studying their ass off to get high scores. They are getting those scores legitimately.
Should they be here replacing our elite and displacing our European and American culture which they don’t care the first thing about as a rule? No. But let’s not be dishonest and claim they are all cheaters. We’ve got to face reality and compete.
My experience in academia was that the Pajeets and Chinks only cared about getting the credential or grade and had zero interest in actually learning the material. If there was a way to cheat or get an A without actually working or learning anything they were all over it. One even directly asked me to give him my answers to the final for a course I’d taken the previous semester that he was presently taking, as if I would be stupid enough to let him turn in a verbatim copy of my work that the professor would easily detect. Part… Read more »
No they aren’t.
“They really want to preserve meritocracy. That is a worthy goal.”
Don’t agree with this. You preserve and promote and BETTER your own because they are your own. You don’t put strangers above them because they’re supposedly more meritorious.
Yep. We want to preserve meritocracy within our communities. We discriminate against others. This isn’t hard folks.
I beg to differ. Blacks only want to forge their own destiny on the bodies of Whites. If you were to pitch this idea to the “leaders” of the black community and they were told in no uncertain terms that Whites would be out of the picture, the overwhelming majority of blacks would loose their minds. When the idea of reparations first got a serious look and various plans were being bounced around, there was one thing that the black community insisted on and that was there would be NO one-time payment from White America. Reparations are to be an… Read more »
RealityRules: In no way do I want a color-blind meritocracy. Whether the .01% of capable joggers or the 5% of suitable mestizos achieve an education and job and lifestyle which supposedly corresponds with their abilities is Not My Concern. Spergy theorists like Sailer, who has no loyalty to his own race, love to discuss that imaginary, color-blind ‘meritocracy’ which will just so happen to be majority White and east Asian, with a sprinkling of others to spice things up. Similar to Derbyshire’s fantasy. ‘Who Says’ it’s wrong or immoral to prefer one’s own? ‘Who Says’ we must give equal opportunity… Read more »
“It’s difficult enough to find that correct mixture between the personal and the public within a homogeneous society.” THIS. People, even within the same group, are naturally at odds and IN CONFLICT. Hobbes war of all against all. Conflict of man against man, between men and women, between rich and poor, between and within familes. . .the story of life is a fight for love and glory. It a miracle if a people can create a fragile peace that produces harmony and prosperity. The correct understanding of this is an incredible triumph AGAINST human nature through hard work and discipline.… Read more »
We have all the “lawyers” we need too. 😉
The desire of (most) whites to win (or at least stalemate) the culture war at no cost or risk to themselves is the root thing here, which makes false choices seem appealing to them. And gives rise to “the wish for kings,” aka vote harder, hoping some guy on a horse will ride in to make it all ok. Position currently occupied by the blonde dyed real estate developer. As if he’s up to it. As if anybody could be. Not giving them false choices won’t give them better choices. It will just drive home the “you’re screwed” nature of… Read more »
Great comment. I wonder if it is even possible for most people to stop pretending, though.
First movers die. That’s the nature of this. Who wants to die??
We need organisation, not lone wolf ramboing. They say logistics wins wars. Actually not so. Logistics, in addition to coordination, communication, training, moral support (universally underrated), is what organisation does. Organisation wins wars
And now Jeffrey Zoar with the win today. We are all too comfortable and conflict averse. We are all going to have to in some way at some place take a stand. Our stand can be perfectly reasonable. When confronted by DIE to implement it at work a reasonable approach seems to be: ‘I don’t want to get exposed to discrimination lawsuits after some Socratic questioning that clearly establishes that DIE is discriminatory – against whites and against whites exclusively. e.g. Aren’t you asking me to hire and create hiring and promotional preferences based on skin color? (It can’t be… Read more »
A white, male, heterosexual, unvaxxed, Christian may sue to his hearts content, but he is not a protected class and will not receive justice.
The regime is not dumb. Their tools (which includes “The Law”) are not to be used for anything but regime purposes.
And there already are, and will continue to be, fewer lawyers willing to take the case. A career diminishing move, at best. Without getting into the younger generation of lawyers coming out of the law schools these days.
I’m sorry to be contrarian today, but we don’t HAVE to be “reasonable.” There is NO moral imperative that says we MUST consider the other side in this debate. “Because it/he is ours” is all the rationale we need. In attempting to be fair or considerate, you are implicitly accepting that the other side’s desires have merit. No, they don’t – not if this is to ever again be a nation of White people.
You can’t make that argument until it is a homogenous ethno state. You can be unreasonable, but you will be outnumbered and cast out. In other words, I could have enemy soldiers in my bunker and take them out by tossing a grenade, but I won’t live to fight another day. What good is that? You have to be strategic. What gets us at least back to freedom of association which is not our own state but way better than this dumpster fire? You use their laws against them since they are violating them. That is the tactic. What does… Read more »
When dealing with the false choice conservatives, Stonetoss is always better than essays.
In Clown World the jokes continue to write themselves as Blinken’s 737 breaks down’l, stranding him in Davos:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/anthony-blinken-stranded-davos-after-his-boeing-737-breaks-down
“If it’s Boeing, you ain’t going!”
Bonus points for him ordering up an even less efficient private jet to get back to DC.
He will become a race realist in time. Diversity will be for the dirt people and not for the Cloud People.
Problem solved!
That’s the case now. It would be lit AF is someone filmed the pilots exiting all the jets that land in Davos. Hmmmm…wonder what they would have in common?
I love you commentary Jack Dodson. I am stepping out of line here, but we should avoid thug culture vernacular. ‘It was lit AF’
Let’s invent our own vernacular and put aside that garbage we’ve been bathing in for decades.
Hmmm… God’s eyes would shine if they filmed the pilots … … at Davos. Food for thought.
Noted and agreed. Sadly, I had no clue as to the origins of “lit AF.”
Mark Dice included a clip of Joy Reid dripping with hatred against Iowa “white Christians” for voting for Trump. It’s at 3:00:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x9fmUtXreY&ab_channel=MarkDice
Is that a toupe on Reed or did she scalp a Scandinavian?
in her dreams, she’s scalped a lot of them…Black women have a serious hatred for more attractive white women…
In other words, a serious hatred for virtually all white women.
Well, that’s because most black women look like the poop emoji.
You’d be angry too…..
Yes, I saw the outburst by the pathetic simian.
Seems she be appropriatin da white wymyns hair, yo dog.
> The immigrants of the 19th and 20th century acted on the same premise.
No they didn’t. The only premise immigrants have ever acted upon is the immediate abolishment of slavery and the mass importation of ever more immigrants.
Aside from the fact that we’ve been importing the wrong people for years, it’s also the sheer volume. They want a billion people here in the literal sense, stacking everyone up in rabbit hutches like East Asia. Because “muh GDP” has to stay in the big leagues. Only the billion+ countries will matter. Then they’ll say “we still have plenty of open spaces.” I’m sorry, Nevada doesn’t count. And neither do the Dakotas. For the size of our country what’s amazing is how so much of the open space is some of the ugliest terrain you’ve ever seen. We only… Read more »
There was the story from a bit ago of India trying to buy a tanker of oil with rupees (their homegrown funny-money) and finding no takers. A billion plus people and yet they can’t make an oil tanker worth of product that someone is willing to trade for.
Slavery had already been abolished BEFORE first wave immigration in the late 19th – early 20th century!
First wave immigration of ppl of European, Christian heritage worked out just fine… Italians, Germans, Poles, Irish etc…
Do not conflate current, 3rd world shit hole invasion with first world, European immigration. That is if you know what the hell you’re talking about.
Vinneyvette: No, it didn’t work out “just fine.” Yes, White Christian immigrants had more natural cultural and religious affinity, but genuine “assimilation” rarely exists. What one gets – after multiple generations and intermarriage – is a synthesis. The Ellis Island immigrants changed settler America as much as it changed them. And we still have pockets of minimally assimilated Italians and others on the east coast. In researching my late mother in-law ‘s ancestors and others from the same village, I found that the first generation here generally married someone whose parents were from the same village. The second generation married… Read more »
Wapo, the CIA’s daily rag, just posted a piece telling us not to think for ourselves because that could lead to dangerous things like insurrections!
“…dismiss anything else. We will continue to be your single source for truth.” Jacinda Ardern
But especially, do NOT ever realize that your skin is your uniform, and your dreams of multi-culturalism are a lethal fantasy…
As much as I favor the idea of using persuasion to awaken the slumbering sane to the clear and present dangers of our modern societal disaster, I don’t think that this option will succeed (or at the very least, has a very low probability of success). Yes, we can continue sleepwalking into the future by dosing on the false hopium of voting harder, but that is simply another repetitive misstep on the road to damnation. Nothing will change until the environment changes. Only then will the awakening be forced upon us. Bongino advocates the false binary of vote-harder or bloody… Read more »
Many of my neighbors are liberal, white Democrats. How should that affect my decision making in the choice you presented? I lean toward the former as the moral course of action…
Guest: Perhaps you should seriously consider moving?
The moral choice is definitely kill your neighbor – then move.
Your ‘neighbors’ will rat you out in a heartbeat and feel good about it.
Relevant to today’s post, you won’t see any “conservatives” making a peep about this:
vdare.com/posts/year-in-the-death-of-white-america-451-underreported-black-on-white-homicides-in-2023
I know of no other site (not even Anglin’s) that compiles this astounding DAILY assault on White America. The monthly report comes out about 2-3 days either side of the 10th of the following month. This is the first year-end review I’ve seen of the carnage that continues unabated. 451. Reparations, anyone?
Maybe not compile, but newnation.com for your hate porn (as in: Articles that will rise your hatred levels)
Thanks, Eloi. I’ll check it out. Hate, properly channeled, can be a powerful and, yes, even positive force for change. If the left and their street thugs are gonna hate whitey, then I’m gonna hate them right back…. in spades. Pun intended.
None of you need to hate. I have so much pent up that it can be shared by everyone.
The only reparation I want is to live in a land with no nuggras.
Ostei: Well of course, but I must admit I can no longer tolerate subcons, han, or mestizos either. Equal opportunity exclusionary here. I think different people and cultures – in separate nations – make the world an interesting place. But there’s still “No place like home.”
“Conservatives” in five years = “As the Party of Lincoln, we’re proud to support in the Republican plank ,REAL DEI, as the “other party” is the party of Jim Crow. Our DEI doesn’t involve human sacrifice, and we will stand string against human sacrifice in the workplace.”
In 5 years Lincoln will be rayciss lol.
The Lincoln Memorial will be getting demolished within 10 years..Lincoln said in the Lincoln-Douglas debates that blacks were inferior, and should be freed and sent back to Africa…And he secretly attempted to do it during CW1, but couldn’t get any countries to take them….
Well…in point of fact, he was.
Indeed. One of his more admirable qualities.
I’m aware. If they go after Lincoln, the whole edifice starts to crumble. Point being, I think they’re that self-destructive.
I was thinking of z’s post on the guess who’s coming to dinner movie a month or two ago. Which of these back archetypes in your opinion is the most potent) destructive?
1) the Sidney Poitier deity type figure
2) the harmless goofy archetype (satchmo, James baskett)
3) the daddy-o archetype (think cab Calloway)
All three were used to create the myth of Obama long before Obama. He stepped into the role and took the reigns of the brainwashing machine. And let’s pause and reflect on the fact that this country reelected him. I’m using that refrain more often. “We reelected Obama.” A people who do that deserve to be carted off to Babylon and lose it all.
“…at last, I can PROVE I’m not racist.”
My white friends and co-workers were GIDDY about Bathhouse Barry. He was on the INTERNET and the John Stewart show. He was hip and cool. He was the black boy that every Karen wanted to $#@!. He was the decent black guy who you could work with in the office.
Most importantly: “…at last, I can PROVE I’m not racist.”
My wine Karen next door neighbor literally would have fukt him at the time. I remember that.
Was she laboring under the delusion that he’d have been able to perform in the presence of a female?
I was sr in hs when Obama first got elected. I thought that it was kind of a final burying of the hatchet.
As Ronnie wood once said I wish that I knew what I know now
Great song!
“But love is blind
and you soon will find
You’re just a boy again”
Mow: I saw so much of that attitude everywhere – and I just could not figure out what they thought they were seeing. I pegged him as an anti-White avatar, the front-man for the money men’s Stalinist impulses – from the get go.
I cancelled family members and long-standing friendships over the abomination. I don’t regret doing so That was my line in the sand.
Sidney’s character was the most destructive. “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” was planned as propaganda. “In the Heat of the Night” was straight up anti-white pornography.
Satchmo and Calloway were entertainers.
By then the white population was already defanged and neutered. They had it right where they wanted it.
I feel that Poitier would only have been appealing to the awfls of the 60s. I would guess that there were fewer of them then than there are now.
I would think your average blue collar Joe in 1967 would have found his movies insulting and/or hamfisted. Of course it was easy back then to live in 90+ percent white areas then so maybe your blue collar Joe was just as naive
In 1967, black-white race relations seemed to be improving. The landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 had recently passed. Widespread black rioting was not yet a perennial feature of American life. It was thought at the time– with the passage of enough time, the expenditure of enough money, and with sufficient goodwill on the part of well-meaning blacks and whites — that blacks would eventually catch up with whites. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite turn out that way.
1967 was the third straight year of widespread negro rioting. Significantly, negro antisocial behavior escalated from its already high level the more whites extended the palm to them.
The savage is either at your feet or at your throat. Prior to the so-called “civil rights” movement, it was the former. Now it’s the latter.
I always have to look up these mouthpieces, they’re so interchangeable and forgettable. In a few keystrokes it looks like Christopher Rufo = Manhattan Institute mouthpiece = Paul Singer (((. )))) and his friends. I’m not going to go down the “every single time” route because it’s too easy. I know the “hired pen” has been a major theme on this blog and for good reason. Possible 95+% of everything we consume in even alternative media.
Gab seems to be somewhat of an exception (that proves the rule?), but maybe it’s just the algorithm screening for my tastes.
I’m pretty sure they’ve been boycotting Gab since day one. The last thing they want is eyeballs on a platform like that. Why they keep launching other failed platforms.
“The left proposed redefining marriage to mean sharing rent and a bed. Instead of rejecting this out of hand, the right proposes civil unions, thus leaving us with two degenerate options.” There is a large family in my community who are devout Christians. They have five kids and the husband works really hard to support his wife who diligently teaches their children at home. Their oldest daughter is 17 and has been telling them that she is now a boy. They obviously love her and their world has been torn apart by this. They have had to put her in… Read more »
Likely she got that from Social Media or School. The only other reason is usually sexual abuse. One of my uncles has a son who went to the “Catholic” University and came back a tranny. They’re trying to figure out what to do before he permanently mutilates himself. My guess in this case is autogynephilia. Sad to say it, but a lot of the reason is Christian parents are just plain weak, and the kids can sense the outside culture is far more powerful. They simply don’t have the vitality for a real war. One of the dumbest tropes is… Read more »
Chet Rollins:
It absolutely was social media.
I’m sorry about your uncle’s situation. It’s really tragic.
Is social media the cause, or a covariant? I wonder. Getting back to the concept of “spiteful mutants” from Dutton and Woodley, are these people simply products of their (failed) genetics who have been allowed to live and “thrive” and worse, reproduce, in our modern society? Think about the state of our society 100 or 200 years ago. Could a person—even if they “feel” they are more feminine than masculine—have “come out” and been applauded and supported in that society? Could they have been allowed to wear women’s clothing and have been protected from discrimination in employment, housing and such?… Read more »
It is definitely cultural rather than genetic–and that culture is exceedingly cruel, as Glen and Melissa noted. While we observe homosexuality in other species (although not at the recently high rate as is claimed among humans), we do not observe transgenderism in nature. Why is that unique to us? Culture. If transgenderism and other sexual deviancy are stigmatized, they largely disappear over time unless there is some biological basis for it, which generally is not the case. See “racism” for a good example of how cultural stigma can stifle something regardless of the informational means of dissemination of the concept.… Read more »
I’d bet most of today’s homos will someday realize they only did it to fit in, and God only knows how that plays out.
Reminds me of a time at the city watering hole, the flaming hairdresser was declaiming how he liked being sweet a lot more back when it wasn’t cool. This was probably 10 years ago now, yikes.
Jack, still don’t see your reply as denying genetic influence. I have no desire to date men, nor play the role of a woman. Why? I am imbued with the same societal pressures as you describe—yet I am immune. Why? Well, I was born that way.
Genetics predisposes, society shapes that predisposition, hence homosexuality and transism. A society that represses such predisposition is, as we are finding out, perhaps the better one all things considered.
@Compsci:
Transgenderism is definitely cultural and has been prevalent is earlier societies, too. There apparently is some genetic basis for homosexuality and perhaps some other deviancies, but outside of humans, transgenderism does not exist in nature and there does not appear to be any genetic basis/predisposition for it.
Granted, all of it can be suppressed and a better society would result, but at least transgenderism seems to be–forgive the term!–purely a social construct. If it were not promoted it would not exist. Some of the other deviancies would occur regardless of promotion or suppression.
It isn’t weakness Chet. Do not be hard on such people. My daughter ran away to join the circus ten years ago as a gay militant lesbian. For me a line had been crossed, and when I refused to get dragged across it with her… our family imploded. Everyone took sides. You go to war with everyone, your own family, your in-laws… and no one is your friend. The women were the worst. Eventually I got cancelled. There IS a God, and by His grace my marriage held. But…we were banished from the hive ten years ago. As our elders… Read more »
Filthie:
Beautiful post. I’m glad your marriage was strong enough to withstand. These situations are devastating and overwhelming to bear.
Many of the good, Christian families I know are unaware of just how evil the plan is to destroy not only White America but White families.
It’s almost as though they are such good people that they simply can’t imagine how bad tptb are.
Ain’t that the truth. And as tough as it is on fathers, it is sheer hell for the moms. Against my objections the church elders at our little chapel out in the country are starting to refer devastated, estranged and cancelled parents to me when their kids go sideways. I am not good enough to be any kind of spiritual advisor, nor am I an expert on coping with queers and lunatics… but I tell them: the Bible is what it is, it says what it means and it means what it says. I just mostly listen and commiserate with… Read more »
Therein lies a question. To be good must one refuse to think ill of others? And if so, what good is good?
Melissa: If I may offer an alternate explanation? Too many Christians, as devout as they may seem, do not truly believe in the existence of ‘evil.’ They’ve been so saturated in the “God is Love” and “Love the sinner, hate the sin” pabulum, that they no longer comprehend the existence of evil itself or its human adherents.
In retrospect, I think there was something to be said for the old “fire and brimstone” Christianity. Modern churchians threw the baby out with the bathwater.
That was well said and I commend you on your openness. We have three (adults now) children and part of having a family is the stark realization that they are individuals. I think we all agree that as an individual, a person will go their own way at some point. That’s the way it is.
I have been very fortunate with my family outcomes so far.
I wouldn’t stop loving them, but they can’t bring their crazy into my house!
this is where islams honor killings make sense. . .
heck, they are right about women!
The only answers I see at this point are ones that involve steel, lead and shot
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A Fedi poster had some poll of doctors asking why they didn’t go into the abortion business and large percent avoided the field because of “fear of political violence”. I hold out hope for a more well reasoned solution though, of course.
A moving comment filthie. Not particularly religious myself but we are up against satanic evil. Hope it all works out for you eventually
“To this day I still wonder sometimes if I made the right choice.” If you followed your conscience, you made the right choice. Dr Martin Luther (the real one) said, ” … to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.” I had to bury my first-born, a son, in Oct 2001. That’s what has happened to you with your daughter. It’s not something that one “gets over” but one DOES get through it; one gets past it. After such a loss, however, nothing can ever touch you again. The worst has befallen you, and you are still sane and… Read more »
Well thanks – all you guys. But as TIP says, it is something you move past. I just don’t want to see this happen to anyone else.
Filthie: God bless you for your steadfastness even in such heartsick pain. I cannot imagine living with having to reject one of my children if I were in your shoes, yet I’ve told my own repeatedly that is what will happen if they turn away from all they’ve been taught.
May God grant you peace and heart’s ease.
On the money, Chet.
It is hard to stop the poison seeping through. Hopefully it is just a phase for that poor kid
It’s amazing how so-called “muh free speech” Anglosphere has such blanket, “consensual” censorship. If you follow Eric Zemmour and Marion Marechal in France, they get invited on national TV all the time to complain about anti-White racism and Black/Arab crime. You’d never see that in the US, UK or Australia/NZ.
This is the stench of Puritanism. France does not suffer it. To be fair, if Zemmour or Marechel make the same statements to the public in a forum away from the media, they theoretically could be charged with crimes (it has happened to others), but isn’t that now the case throughout the Anglosphere, which also would destroy any broadcast outlet that followed the French model? One of the biggest lies we suffer is the belief we are free. That’s never been true and becomes less so with each passing day. The public stocks never went away in the Anglosphere. They… Read more »
“This is the stench of Puritanism.”
OT, but that reminds me. It’s been said the American Civil War was a continuation of the English Civil War. Fair enough. Could it also be said the English Civil War was a continuation of Wessex, et al, vs the Danelaw?
Granted, I’m a Pennsylvanian with a Norman family name, so I have an interest. Still, I’m stuck with a notion of, essentially, spergy Vikings doing spergy Viking mayhem trying to cope with culture/ideas/ethics that don’t fit them well.
As I’ve seen people mention, it’s been all downhill since the Battle of Hastings.
Just a cursory look at the history of the British Isles, and what I know of American history, leave me the impression of something extraordinary. Maybe I’m biased by the present, but it seems to revolve around identity. All of these Northern European tribes crashing together, splitting apart, coming back together, very slowly becoming a people, or not. By turns dominant and subjugated. Confidently spreading around the world, then doubting the project. Etc. It’s as if our politics, culture, religion revolve around this problem and this tempestuous way of being we have. I wish I understood it fully, but I… Read more »
More than anything, I’d like people to vent, by all means, but not fret about The End and realize it’s probably just us being us. FWIW.
France has its own no go zones ,both physically and conceptually.
Would you please cite the government report which accurately states the demography of France?
According to the French establishment there is no ethnicity if you are a French citoyen.
Does France anti-semitism laws? Are you allowed to question the holohoax?
Are you allowed to question the holohoax?
No. It is a criminal offence. But France still has a free press and much freer speech than anyplace else that I know of, the Holocaust Legends being a notable exception, quite unworthy of a great nation, which France still is, believe it or not.
France still has free speech and a free press.
[…] ZMan intrudes some reality. […]
False choices cherished by the right also includes the idea that buying guns will keep you free (not having a gun means you are at risk from the government).
All these guns have not resulted in any rights being preserved including the 2nd amendment which keeps being chipped away at and will eventually fall when the left manages to pack the court.
All of the false choices the right is given result in the right not pushing back sufficiently against the jihads waged by the left and their Globocap masters.
Gun rights are still important: just visit a society where law-abiding citizens are unarmed by law (Latin America).
Yes and no. At the very least, it’s “friction”, and gives our elites pause. They’re building bunkers for a reason.
The 99.9% non compliance rate over the pistol brace rule was encouraging.
This. They know gun owners are out there (cue the “gun owners could be here” meme). They know the vast majority won’t use them. But . . . there is just enough uncertainty as to whether and who would use them to hold back going full Stalin for now.
The gun people drive me insane. They use them as pacifiers or protection from their neighbors. Having a gun for self-defense is fine and recommended. But claiming you have a gun to defend rights you absolutely will not defend under any circumstances is just foolish and silly. The only right they even say they will defend to the death is the right to keep the gun. In that case, the government can do anything just so long as they get to keep their guns locked up and unloaded and a danger to nobody.
Tar’s, absolutely correct and to the point! However let me add a slightly more benign view. People are basically cowards. They need a strong leader to rally around. To light the spark so to speak. When that leadership arises, then a populace with basic equipment and understanding of such use of firearms is infinitely better than a populace that has only a distant memory of such things. For myself, I remember purchasing my first pistol, a Colt 1911. I was in some awe of it and would never consider carrying it as a personal defense weapon—albeit completely legal and accepted… Read more »
I would put it a little more benignly than that. Most people (and I’d include myself in that) have an idea of what a better society would be, but have no idea of how to get there. Assuming we are not yet beyond Claire’s awkward stage, what can one actually do? I’ve got bug-in and bug-out both pretty well in hand. Friends good and true in both locations. But apart from head on a swivel, I’m not sure what my next step could be. It’s not that I need a leader to follow. Just a couple of practical ideas would… Read more »
“ One thing I’m almost positive of, though, is that those who are still unarmed are basically useless to me at best, but more likely a liability.”
Hear, hear. It’s an “tell” of sorts. Those people who are not prepared to protect themselves are not prepared to protect others.
Just wait until you need someone to can or sew clothing or other low tech replacement for what would be lost after a uprising or even a long term grid-down situation. Not everyone is or should be in the warrior caste. An idiot with a gun is probably far more dangerous in such a situation than a competent/smart person without a gun. An idiot with a gun can get the whole police force at your door. Granted, an idiot without a gun can do that, but I think it would take more effort. One man who can fix a generator… Read more »
All true, but I suspect there is actual government opposition to firearms ownership because it makes it somewhat harder to hire thugs to enforce its edicts. Otherwise, yes, they are useless crutches outside of personal safety use.
Nope. White people sense the Pol Pot moment is coming. It cannot be held back. Hence, the gun buying.
All that anti-White sentiment ultimately ends up at Pol Pot. They know. At that time, the only solution is what Machiavelli advised. Always be armed. This is why the elites are so determined to eliminate gun ownership. To make the Pol Pot moment so much easier. People know.
Empirically speaking, an armed population does not prevent tyranny. But it is certainly good for self defense.
The missing link making private firearms inert against tyranny is organization. IRA, Vietcong, Taliban are all top down organizations. Americans with millions of firearms, or Europeans with a lot of hunting weapons (fewer handguns), are individuals watching their children being abused to hate themselves and their heritage. Organization and the willingness to sacrifice for one’s people. That’s the difference between the former and the latter
Musk seems to be more libertarian in his world view, he still needs some slaps across his face to wake up to reality. Musk comes from the now increasingly failed state of South Africa, he has to see what has happened to his homeland but libertarianism is a blindness but maybe in time he comes around to reality? I am both happy at times with Musk but at other times much disappointed.
Musk seems to be the best we got among the elite class right now which is not saying much.
Musk is holding back. He’s still a technocrat and therefore not to be trusted, but he knows the score and the line he can’t cross (yet).
Musk becomes a perfectly coherent character with no secrets if you discard the assumption that he’s smart—which you should, because it’s a libertarian assumption of market justice, the white equivalent of “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich?” He’s nerdy because he’s *not* intelligent. He objects to injustice because he *doesn’t* understand it. He stumbles into—and immediately gets shock-collared away from—/ourguys/ because he doesn’t have the “social intelligence” (observational and concept-forming ability) to recognize us. Will he learn anything from his persecution? There’s no teenage libertarian or illiterate “rationalist” explanation for it, so no. He’s a Trump-style accidental traitor… Read more »
Two of the great questions of our time: Who created Peter Thiel, and who created Elon Musk?
Because they sure as hell didn’t create themselves.
Someone chose them to be playing the roles which they are playing in this drama.
Someone – Some Group – very powerful, very well connected, very reticent about divulging their own true identities.
Who are they?
What are their intentions?
What are their goals?
Musk isn’t so bad.
Yuval Noah Harari is terrifying. Providing an ethical framework and moral justification for the elimination of large swaths of humanity to his elite masters.
Pure evil.
Well at wikipedia, you don’t have to scroll down to his “Early Life”; it’s right there in the first sentence.
I wouldn’t give Harari credit for being the Anti-Christ (which he’d probably take as a compliment), but he’s an archetype.
Sailer shows a flicker of life as he calls out the useless Hainaia’s foolish contention that DIE won’t affect air travel:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/die-in-the-sky/
There are several personalities that have mastered rage farming, and Hanania is top-tier in this regard. He says hard-right things for interest, and then something retarded for engagement. When the backlash happens, he calls everyone stupid. It’s a cynical ploy for relevance that is, unfortunately, very effective.
We already have a “life lesson” in the effect of DIE on air travel! To say DIE will/can not affect safety is a “tell” that the writer allows his ideology to overcome observable reality. Or stated a bit more nicely, simply is not acquainted with the facts. I’ve written about this in this forum at least a couple of times previously, so for the sake of new followers I’ll briefly restate. It has to do with the 2 fatal crashes of the Boeing 737 max a few years back. In short, the two planes were flown by 3rd world airlines… Read more »
Interesting perspective on the 737 debacle. I still think the max is a badly designed plane but your made me think of the old principle that the man is more important that the equipment 9 times out of 10.
I can’t argue wrt the design of the 737 max—and I guess using the word “design” is a bit of a misnomer if what I’ve heard is correct, that the 737 max is a bastard expansion of a perfectly fine 737 original design.
Another way to look at my comment is to take the plane out of the posting and think of our efforts to design a “driverless automobile”. How’s that working out so far?
A future solution – DIE pilot & copilot to properly signal the virtue, but add a 3rd white guy experienced pilot stashed in a cockpit jump seat – just in case someone actually has to, ya’ know – fly the darn plane.
Now this is what I call pressing your luck…
It’s not about race, religion, gender, or any other divider issue. It’s about powerful people conquering by dividing. It’s about setting up oppressor vs. oppressed to take full control. Focus on the real enemy. Do not get caught up in the diversions. You are not wrong with your answers about the diversions, but if answered, there would just be another diversion. Prepare to battle those setting up the diversions.
“Focus on the real enemy.”
Okay, so who is that?
“powerful people conquering by dividing”
So, everyone on earth would just live happily if powerful people weren’t exacerbating divisions for their own unspecified reasons? Kum Bah yah.
It seems like you must oppose all immigration laws, since those are divisions. Right?
Finally, if powerful people are exploiting divisions for some reason, then that reason is the more fundamental explanation for their behavior, rather than the mere act of dividing people.
Race is the deepest cause of division, but that division is authentic and best respected.
Yeah whenever I see:
powerful people
I always ask for some names, you know, just some examples so that we can put some faces to ridiculous statement. It’s then always amusing to see how deep they go into the bench-of-evil to keep people from seeing the lie behind the claim.
So, everyone on earth would just live happily if powerful people weren’t exacerbating divisions for their own unspecified reasons?
No, but it would likely be much better. Let’s see if Will C names these division exacerbators.
Apart from a few outliers, I doubt it’s possible to name names because it’s become melded into the culture in general. For example, you could probably come up with a couple people outstanding in their villainy who had something to do with the tranny explosion, but I think looked at honestly, it’s more of a confluence of minor actors that social media somehow synergizes.
That said, I did chuckle a bit at @LitS’ assumption that @WillC’s vision of the future is a Kum Bah Ya utopia in an essay aptly named, “False Choices.”
https://www.alibris.com/The-Return-of-the-Gods-Jonathan-Cahn/book/51642427?matches=41
Explains the situation in clear and uncompromising detail, with many concrete examples of the thesis. Highly recommended. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against … spiritual wickedness in high places.”
Good reply, Steve. What are some of the choices that I am overlooking between organizing our society around the importance race and not?
Besides what we have now, I guess one choice is a civic nationalist state that forbids all racial collectives.
@LitS, “What are some of the choices that I am overlooking between organizing our society around the importance race and not?” Guess I didn’t express that very well. What I meant was that by about 3rd grade, pretty much everyone has had it pounded into him that no social arrangement is going to be ideal. So dismissing @WillC’s argument by assuming his chosen social arrangement (whatever that is) would lead to some perfect world might be valid if he were 8 years old, but not if you extend to him the basic assumption that whatever he’s trying to describe makes… Read more »
WillC: I call straight up bull-shite. The divisions amongst people are both natural – i.e. at a genetic, cellular level – and God ordained. We are not fungible nor equal. Nothing in nature is. This simplistic chant of “Don’t let them divide us” deliberately omits who is “them” and who composes the “us.” Your “us” is not my “us.”
Yes, it damned well is about race, religion, and sex (gender pertains to language, not people). All those things which compose human identity, and make us individual creations.
Go push your globalist pabulum on stupid people.
Wow, never thought my comment would be interpreted to be about being a globalist and ignore the problems and just limit the elite and we would all be happy. I am definitely a capitalist, communist hating, Constitution-loving American. We are definitely not all equal in our abilities. I’m meaning that globalists are using our inequality to create an oppressor versus an oppressed worldview in America because economic divisions have not worked in the New World. Basically using critical theory encouraged by the Franklin School to imprison us all. We need to stop those people from using human greed to make… Read more »
“We are seeing this again with the war over the antiwhite pogroms labeled Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. It is not an accident that the acronym DEI could easily be DIE, as the people behind this do not hide their intensions. When they say they want to eliminate whiteness, there is only one way this can happen. If one were to call for eliminating Jewishness, you get compared to Hitler. Therefore, logic dictates that when they say they want to eliminate whiteness, they mean white people.” This is a Jewish supremacist project pure and simple. Kevin MacDonald would have a fair… Read more »
While I agree with your post, you also need to realize that the people getting all of the spoils of this bullshit have not put up any resistance to it or spoken up about it. The criminal race has gladly taken their preferences and “free shit” from YT with a big smile on their faces. In the eyes of the criminal race, they are always a victim of the white man. So while we can say that the juice have a lot to do with this, the subjects have been more than complicit.
Just like Bill Gates recognized that software (and specifically, operating systems) was the driving force behind computing and essentially cornered that market, the juice understand/understood that fiat currency – and control over it – is the single most powerful node in the system. Control that, and practically everything else falls into place. So while the subjects have been complicit to some extent, there was really little choice once 1913 came around. Can it be undone? Probably, but not without a lot of pain.
To this point:
“Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.”
Mayer Amschel Rothschild
I just don’t know if Whites as a group have it in them to stand up and seriously push back against this s***. As Z has said, 20% of that cohort is insane. Life is still too easy and comfortable to rock the boat in a big way. Recently, I joined a new golf group – nice guys and all, but they’re nearly to a man totally into the local college negro sportsball teams, to say nothing of the negro felon league. As I gave up all that stuff years ago, I don’t get it – I mean a large… Read more »
No less an authority than Rupert Murdoch, when asked why he was paying such high prices for TV sports broadcast rights, said “Because sports are tribal”.
Sports are the way lots of white guys connect to others. They are reluctant to lose this connection. Something will have to come along to replace this connection. It may be “the need for survival”……
For white sportsball fans, sports are tribal only in the local sense–city or university. Whites do not watch sports to bolster racial solidarity. On the contrary, the vast majority of them are pathetic Hutuphiles who disdain their own race.
Now for PoC, and especially nuggras, sportsball is racially tribal as all get out. The only reason negroes watch football and basketball is because their own kind are numerically dominant.
True dat. These “men” are content to spend an afternoon in front of the TV watching some Negroes play with a ball.
Very odd.
True “dat” revealing your inner negro?
Good point. A nice first step in investing in one’s whitness is jettisoning all Hutu affectations. For many people this is difficult to do because the entire pop “culture” is little more than a concatenation of Afro-savage signs and gestures.
“A nice first step in investing in one’s whitness is jettisoning all Hutu affectations. ”
And an even nicer first step is cultivating a sense of humor and the ability to recognize satire; irony; mockery.
You ought to try it.
Ostei – may I assume this would also include going cold turkey on listening to / viewing of any rap, hop-hop, etc. musical compositions?
(uses Col. Kurtz voice)…the horror.
To gain an understanding how defeated whites have become, look no further than the father of Ethan Liming or the daughter of the retired police chief who was run down by scholars on his bicycle. They couldn’t wait to let everyone know that it isn’t about race, and not to judge all by the actions of “the few”. There are no words to describe my anger over such things. In my mind, the negro was created with the left over slop that was going to be thrown away after God created the rest of humanity. Someone screwed up and allowed… Read more »
My understanding is there exists a government agency (maybe an NGO) that reaches out to such victims to “coach” them on public announcements. My guess is this group is a screening device so that any family of a victim who is not on board with the program never gets media attention.
“the retired police chief who was run down by scholars on his bicycle”
That one was a mafia hit, courtesy of (((Meyer Lansky Inc))).
The gr0ids were just hired hands.
Caucasian people can watch those circuses because most weren’t raised well, same as the people who watched those companies of entertaining performers 50 years ago. Childlike fools love the circus. Look also at some pictures of kids performing the Bellamy salute, which was abolished in the early 1940’s to avoid awkward comparisons. That’s evidence that those generations, too, weren’t raised well, and that was back in the day when most Caucasian parents bamboozled their children into believing that a Semitic supremacist is their god. It’s obvious that pre-Bellamy generations weren’t raised right. If they were they wouldn’t have allowed teachers… Read more »
No question about it. White sportsball fans are the very worst cucks of all. I have nothing but contempt for them.
The same males who would never say anything explicitly pro-White, or even use the word “white” in reference to their own people, will time and again say “we won last night” wrt their favored franchise. “We”. Right. I watched a game with some of these males not long back as part of a social event for our church. The product is total garbage. It exists on fumes of desperation and nostalgia. What struck me, aside from the obvious blackitty-black of it all was that it seemed the camera operators and little men in the production trailer are going out of… Read more »
It used to be an unspoken rule in European and South American soccer that the “crowd” camera man would focus in on the most attractive female. It was put into overdrive for international tournaments. That seems to have diminished, if not disappeared altogether (maybe they are just not there?).
Well, when beautiful cheerleaders are being replaced by heifers (and they are), it’s quite clear that feminine beauty–especially feminine white beauty–is becoming verboten.
More common than cameramen focusing on the dorkiest fans is them focusing on white fans acting like nuggras, what with the gyrating and idiotic gesticulation of the arms. Even better if they’re proto-twerking in the company of an actual nuggra. Sportsball has become a ceremonial celebration of nuggratude.
‘Of course, the ultimate false choice, the very heart of American conservatism, is the assertion that they cannot use the same tactics as their opponent or exact revenge when they have power, because that would make them as bad as the left.’ This is the problem, exactly. But the primary reason WHY ‘conservatives’ NEVER punish the Woke-Fem Politburo for tyranny and totalitarianism is because the Right is masculine and the Left is feminine. It ain’t Whites vs. Others. It’s male vs. female. And modern Western men do not have the stones to punish their daughters, wives, or women holding collective… Read more »
“It ain’t Whites vs. Others. It’s male vs. female.”
So, if we tame the women, do you believe that a multiracial society can work? If so, what happens when a group of blacks demand proportional representation among surgeons or pilots?
> what happens when a group of blacks demand proportional representation among surgeons or pilots?
They wouldn’t. Black men don’t have words like “equity” or “proportional representation” in their vocabulary. They may demand gibs, but not “proportional representation.” Have you ever been around blacks? They are very matriarchal. All of the activism in their communities is entirely driven by the women.
Or, more likely, the activism is being imposed on the black community from the outside (also mostly women.)
“Or, more likely, the activism is being imposed on the black community from the outside (also mostly women.)”
You believe that the group that funds, organizes, and incites the blacks to activism is mostly women? If so, say it clearly.
Line: I cannot speak for ray, but I would think that if White men rediscovered the testicular fortitude to control women (specifically their wives and daughters), they would then naturally regain the discernment and will to control the aliens amongst them. Both the agitators and their golems. While feminism is to blame for a multitude of sins, I believe it was one of the main channels utilized by those who sought to undermine White civilization. They’ve utilized more violent means and races as well, but I do believe women have been the key node – precisely because of their control… Read more »
3g4me —
This is correct. Restore authentic and strong masculine leadership, most of the rest falls into place on automatic.
I address these matters in more detail elsewhere on this thread.
LITS — Thank you for asking. A multi-racial society does work . . . in heaven. This place? Not so much. What got this big rock in trouble from the jump was the woman/hierarchy issue. Females seeking to usurp the place of God and men, and males wimping ‘n simping. Doing what women want instead of what God wants. So, obviously, fix the systemic flaw first, at the fundamentally dualistic center. Race is not at the fundamentally dualistic center. Then a whole bunch of stuff will sort ITSELF out, via restoration of masculine leadership and authority. No interventions necessary. As… Read more »
Yes that is the Genesis. The eternal earthy problem of female temptation unbridled by male abdication of headship. The inversion has cured this into the foundation of progressive social status and morality. Until a man divorces from the inversion he will choose to bitterly protect that status and reinforce the morality. To do otherwise is an indictment that cascades all the way back. And we can’t have that. To take the “vote” from my wife and daughters would be unspeakable. And such. I’ve never met a woman who wasn’t an exception. Just like the prog death cult is a monolith… Read more »
Sir Lawrence — Wow can you preach it up! Glad you’re on my side. The strong men are. ‘The eternal earthy problem of female temptation unbridled by male abdication of headship.’ Yessir. This is the problem. It is not going away, but instead increases. God is NOT going to intervene in this particular issue and ‘make it all better’. Throwing asses out of Eden — and keeping them out — showed that. Your comment is so important to this readership, I hope it does not get buried by newer posts. Also, in response to a question by LITS, I expanded… Read more »
” But the primary reason WHY ‘conservatives’ NEVER punish the Woke-Fem Politburo for tyranny and totalitarianism is because the Right is masculine and the Left is feminine.” I think it is the exact opposite. Acceptance of false premises as a means to achieve compromise is the ultimate feminine move. Modern conservatism is drenched in estrogen. It is its Achilles heel. I agree the specific programs and goals the Left advocates are “feminine” in the sense they are anti-male, but their means to attain their goals are quite masculine: set out the terms and force opponents to accept those parameters. The… Read more »
Agree – the left may talk feminine but acts more masculine because it is effective – look at what they are doing (and will do) to Trump; look at what they did with Summer of Floyd and J6ers. The right talks masculine but acts feminine – extremely ineffective. Hasn’t accomplished a thing of note in decades.
The left wants to eliminate its opponents; the right wants some faggoty “coexistence.”
Jack Dodson —
‘Modern conservatism is drenched in estrogen. It is its Achilles heel.’
Obviously, both Left and Right are ‘drenched in estrogen’. And yes, the modern Left uses masculine hyper-aggressiveness, intimidation and violence to achieve its ends.
But that’s a given, as the Left is largely a bunch of women wanting to be men, and failing. They’re aping of masculinity is guaranteed to be tyrannical, totalitarian, and inverted. An onion isn’t a Jeep Wrangler.
I’m not sure where you are disagreeing with me but, whatever.
I read Rufo’s tweet. It’s impossible to win elections or build a base of support talking like this. Nobody really cares about Griggs vs. Duke Power Company unless it is your job to care about it. Guys like Rufo have no answer when some BLM activist calls him a racist besides stammering under his breath “no…. I’m not….”. This is one reason why the conservative always loses. People vote for the conservative nerd who talks like this and assume he is going to take care of it, because the voters are either too stupid or too busy to care about… Read more »
Ackman is a hyper hypocritical fraud and Rufo is his castrated toadie. I already see signs that Ackman wants to return to the status quo of anti-white hatred with an exception carved out for white-presenting Jews. Rufo will have to contort himself to promote this reversion to the mean, but he will do so on command.
Glenn Greenwald has made this case explicitly on recent shows. They have no interest in abolishing DEI, just expanding it to make sure it includes Jews. This was made obvious and explicit when Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADL made a principled stand to ensure that Jews are counted as a diverse group in a field that they have long struggled to gain representation in, that being entertainment and Hollywood. Rufo is going to be left out in the cold when Ackman tells him “nah, we’re good with DEI, go away LMAO” and wondering where it all went wrong, as so… Read more »
This case has been quite transparent. It is not unlike the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians being applauded while the far-less inhumane Ukraine war, in the sense of massacring civilians, is held up as the ultimate exemplar of evil. My favorite part of this episode so far was when Ackman’s wife also was exposed, likely by MIT, as a plagiarizer, and the lame defense has been “don’t attack family members!” There is a chance this becomes too acrimonious to result in an exception carved out. That’s normally not the way to be but thus far it is where this is… Read more »
“My favorite part of this episode so far was when Ackman’s wife also was exposed, likely by MIT, as a plagiarizer…”
Meh. Never been big on the tu quoque fallacy. I don’t have any idea who Ackerman or his wife are, but I’m guessing he didn’t propose to her on the basis of her academic writings.
Hollywood establishing a jewish quota can only reduce the number of jews working in tinseltown. I don’t see any other way that can play out. The recent cry for one appears to be a signal of how retarded the hollywood jews have become.
That is the goal, it is no longer possible. Various groups, Diverse, Alphabet+, Woke Upper Class White women, are not going to let (((certain people))) back into power after they have been purged mostly: Hollywood, Academia, Government, much of Finance, etc. Ackman is running scared, he knows independent hedge funds are next on the list. There is an ever growing amount of the Diverse and ever fewer places for them to be Big Shots at; having won the victories over Dirt People it would always escalate to (((big shots))). Look at say, Disney. Who is directing the new Star Wars… Read more »
It’s certainly going in that direction, Whiskey. I normally would bet differently, but not without odds in this case. The Tribe excels at foot-shooting, so perhaps I shouldn’t be as surprised as I am.
Finance indeed is next. Jamie Dimond knows it. Larry Fink knows it. Bill Ackman knows it. Janet Yellen is trying to find an alternative carve out.
Unfortunately America has a history of “my way or the highway” which was brutally imposed on the indigenous peoples from the time Europeans showed up, until the late 1800’s. To be fair, every expanding empires imposed this method on the locals so this isn’t criticism, rather a statement of fact. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and the whites are being told it is they who must comply. Europe used to look to the West, and specifically the US, as to what the future held. Now we all have a front row seat to what’s coming into our… Read more »
South Africa is what’s coming. But the Whites are thriving there. A different breed. Maybe it’s that soy-free, biltong-rich diet.
Biltong for the win. Eye of round is $3.99 a pound this week at the butcher’s. Time to get the malt vinegar and coriander and start a big batch.
I’ve never made biltong. If you don’t mind, what’s your recipe and method?
The Whites are thriving there? Never heard that one. Yes, some Whites remain intact in their reinforced communities, but what about the murders of hundreds (thosands?) of farmers and those Whites now without jobs and living in squalid camps? Not to mention living under governments that openly threatened Whites remaining with genocide.
Yep, the US is now a “good example of a bad example”. 😉
Mao, on his Great March, had to go through a lot of minority areas. He promised them independence for support. Chinese communism has a phrase that translates “avoid Han Chauvinism!. So China is in theory colorblind, but in practice, not. Same applies to females.
Mao also knew how to add . . . an atomic war might kill 300 million Chinese but China would remain the most populous on earth. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1964/10/17/Maos-theory-on-atomic-bomb-They-cant-kill-us-all/1653831424805/
Han Chinese are very tribal. There’s even a place of ancestor worship (“Grove of the Yellow Emperor”) where you cannot enter unless you are of the Chinese race. I know this from an old China hand.
They’re descended from a long line of government-imposed famine survivors so they never remove more than one foot from their clan network.