America First

Most of the people who use the phrase “America First” do so emotively, as a way to indicate that they like or dislike something. They will use this phrase, for example, when dismissing something or someone from the left. Alternatively, they will use it as a way to restate allegiance to their cause. “I’m America First” reduces to “I’m on the side of the good guys and those people are the bad guys.” Beyond this basic political signaling the phrase has little meaning for the users.

This is not true of everyone. Trump and his more reliable supporters use the phrase to mean a radical reorientation of the political class. What Trump means when he says he wants an “American First” foreign policy, for example, is that he looks at foreign policy in service to his domestic policy. The same is true with trade. He promotes the use of tariffs, for example, because he thinks about trade as a means to an end and that end is the promotion of the American domestic economy.

The radicalism of this gets lost because both sides of the political class have mischaracterized these positions for half a century. So-called conservatives talk about “free trade”, a thing that does not exist, as enlightened policy, while tariffs are slandered as isolationism and central planning. The left now promotes endless wars around the globe as a necessary duty of the American government, even if it comes with a heavy cost to the American people.

One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans. The thing that has consumed the Biden presidency has been Ukraine, followed by the endless wars in the Levant, and then their escalations with China. Whenever the concerns of white people come up, they are blasted with the tired old slogans that are simply meant to dismiss the concerns of the majority population.

Immigration is another example. The logic behind open borders is not that it is good for the native population, but that the people enabling it are doing a good deed for these foreigners and humanity in general. While much of it is driven by spite and ingratitude, the underlying cause is indifference to domestic concerns. For the typical person in the political system, the concerns of average Americans matter only in so far that they have an impact on these cosmopolitan projects.

This is why the usual suspects screech in horror at Trump. He is a threat not just to their specific schemes but to the framework in which they operate. For example, he looks at Ukraine and asks why Americans are paying for it. If the Europeans want to make war with each other, according to Trump, they should pay for it. In other words, he looks at the Ukraine situation purely in terms of domestic economics. The starting question for Trump is “how is this good for Americans?”

This is most obvious in his statements regarding Taiwan. In a recent interview Trump pointed out that Taiwan is rich mostly because of America, so they should pay for their own defense against China. He also criticized prior administrations for allowing Taiwan to corner the market on high end computer chips. Trump feels no moral or emotional commitment to Taiwan. For him, it is just another transactional relationship that is either good or bad for Americans.

Even with regards to Israel, the area where Trump gets most criticized by dissidents, his view is purely transactional. He looks at Israel as part of the greater Jewish lobby in America, so he treats it as such. The Jews have a lot of money and power, so Trump caters to them in the same way he caters to other powerful interests. If Evangelicals stop worshipping Jewish people, Trump will be less enthusiastic for Israel, because Israel stops being important domestically.

J.D. Vance also takes this transactional view of trade and foreign policy, which is why the usual suspects detest him. When asked about Ukraine during his senate run, he shrugged and asked why anyone cares about Ukraine. Vance has also talked about using tariffs as a way to bring manufacturing back, as well as a way to boost the American economy in general. This kind of talk around the usual suspects is like wearing garlic around a vampire.

The reason this terrifies official Washington is that all of their projects and therebefore their reason to exist rest on the assertion that overseas concerns are paramount because they serve the interest of the empire. If politics moves to a debate about what is and what is not good for the American people, suddenly these schemes not only stop making sense, but they also sound un-American. Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.

That is the root of the rage we see in the political class. Trump and now Vance signal a shift back to an older form of politics where candidates promised a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage. This is antithetical to the cosmopolitical politics that have dominated for at least the last thirty years. A successful politician of old actually had to know something about chickens, pots and cars. Contrast that to now when politicians take pride in having no practical knowledge.

None of this should lead to a celebration. The odds of Trump winning are not good, despite all of the good things breaking his way. The mere fact that he is in a close race with a nursing home patient shows how much damage has been done to the self-respect and intelligence of the voting public. Even if Trump wins, the political machine will simply work harder to undermine his efforts. The usual suspects are terribly smart but hey never take no for an answer.

Even so, this all points to the problem with empire. All empires are eventually controlled by an alien elite that parasites off the people who made the empire. As the cost of empire exceeds the benefit of the empire, the people at the top begin to hollow out that which makes them possible. In this regard, the Trump – Vance ticket is a symptom and a warning of what lies ahead. Either the reformist elements of the oligarchy embrace America First, or something much worse than Trump comes next.


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Member
4 months ago

“America First” as a phrase is of course inevitably associated with, as usual, the ghosts of the 1940s and the ongoing obsession with Mustache Guy and used as a club to beat the political right into submission with that used to be much more effective. To the Bagels, America First is antisemitic, because the moral duty of America is to sacrifice everything for Bagels, because America didn’t want to in 1933 all the way to 1941. To the foreigners, America First is racist. To the Spiteful Mutants, America First is Christian. To the Fistagon and the MIC,America First is their… Read more »

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

The ghosts of the 1940s included Charles Lindburgh, Robert Taft, and John F. Kennedy. From the perspective of 2024, the concerns of the America First movement appear remarkably prescient. FDR repeatedly violated the Neutrality Act by shipping arms to belligerant powers and provoked the Japanese government with a series of economic and financial sanctions (sound famiiar?). Although Charles Lindburgh was denounced for noticing how Jews sought to involve the US in the war, during the war the fate of Jews was hardly an issue of concern–Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle never mentioned it during the war, nor… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

I think there’s an argument to be made that the outcome of WW2 could be thought of as America’s Third Founding.

Blasphemous
Blasphemous
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

The first three “foundings” came at roughly 80 year intervals.

it’s been 80 years since the 3rd “founding”

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Blasphemous
4 months ago

One full cycle according to Strauss and Howe is 84 years. These theories have their limitations, but there are legit reasons why they exist.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

I think Strauss and Howe are pretty spot on with the length of the cycle.

My issue with them is that they really seem to process the facts through their own peculiar worldview to arrive at their detailed conclusions.

Alzaebo
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

I don’t see a predictive framework as an issue, but as useful and succinct. (Nice catch, Blasphemous.)

Gotta keep it simple, man, that’s why a Biblical God as an overall concept can be an extremely ‘useful’ shorthand.

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Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

…which is precisely what Nietzsche called “the prejudices of philosophers” (first section of Beyond Good and Evil.). A philosopher’s inner beliefs, perhaps even subconscious, influence his theories or other “truths” he may claim to have found. I see no reason why this tendency would not extend to all fields of human intellectual activity. One easy example of that is cherry picking; we’re prone to choose evidence that supports our argument and ignore what doesn’t. The scientific method and other tools can defend against these defects but they aren’t always used, including by professionals who should know better but it turns… Read more »

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Sam Francis termed it the end of the Second American Republic and the beginning of the American Empire.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

You can also throw Henry Ford into the mix, staunchly pro America, however rabidly anti Jew. My kinda guy!

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Go further back, Wilson’s campaign slogan in 1916 was, “He Kept Us Out of War.”

The first America Firster?

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Owlman
4 months ago

How could Wilson keep us out of WWI When he schemed to get us in it?
Wilson is the original U.S. globalist. Look up “League of Nation’s.”

Owlman
Owlman
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

I assume you respond to my post rhetorically – as I simply posted what HIS platform was in 1916.

There is also a subtext, perhaps too subtle — that those claiming to be ‘American First’, say in the case of Wilson, FDR, in terms of keeping us out of foreign wars, were not what they said they were.

In any case, ‘how could’ is not for me to answer as it is a non sequitur response to my point or simply droll.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Owlman
4 months ago

You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Owlman
4 months ago

Lincoln, Wilson, FDR and TR are the worst Presidents we’ve had. They all started the ball rolling downhill that led to where we are today. Without them we would have never had the crooks, idiots and tards we’ve been stuck with over the last 40-50 years. Bide, Obama and both Bushes are the fake and gay successors to them.

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Alzaebo
Reply to  Owlman
4 months ago

Let’s just hope Trump isn’t the same kind of America Firster as Wilson. He wasn’t last time, so crossing muh fingers.

Last edited 4 months ago by Alzaebo
Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

You can have a Hasid wearing any color you like, as long as it’s black. 😏

Last edited 4 months ago by Ben the Layabout
Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

🤣🤣🤣

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Ben the Layabout
4 months ago

What is it after seeing Trump as president for four years and this “will the real Donald J. Trump please stand up” all over this board. Just waiting for him to morph into chairman Mao or LBJ. What you see is what you get from Trump. He may not have delivered the goods as promised his first term. It was not for lack of effort. When has Trump pulled a policy bait and switch?

Outdoorspro
Outdoorspro
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

I have been finding it very interesting that with the new AI “interpretations” of mustache man have been reforming his image quite a bit. It’s easy to say he was crazy when you don’t understand the words and all you can see is a raving lunatic onstage.

Now that we can hear his speeches like the audience would have heard them, and also see how the audience responds to his arguments, they don’t seem so crazy. Instead, they seem prophetic.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

during the war the fate of Jews was hardly an issue of concern–Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle never mentioned it during the war, nor did they discuss it in their memoirs.

There is a reason why they were not concerned with their fate, but it’s illegal to say in my local jurisdiction.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Only John F Kennedy matters in terms of ghosts. Society works within living memory. Charles Lindburgh was the guy who piloted a plane to Paris without first class and seatbelt. What he was known for during the 1920’s-1950’s otherwise is lost to our Boomerriffic society.
Because we living in a Boomerific society Mustache Man is the founding of the modern world, and history goes no farther.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Did you mean Joseph Kennedy instead of John?

Diversity Heretic
Member
Reply to  Gespenst
4 months ago

No, John F. Kennedy contributed $100 to the organization with a note that what it was doing was vital.

Gespenst
Gespenst
Reply to  Diversity Heretic
4 months ago

Well, Old Joe Kennedy was a non-interventionist to the point of being called an appeaser. He might deserve a mention with the America Firsters, although he was a nasty man compared to Lindbergh and the others.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

The best part of this slogan is dusting off the slogan of an old boogeyman (the WWII isolationists) and making it your own. The old mythologies are losing steam and the elite class is desperately trying, and failing, to create new, grand myths. That was the entire point of the Floyd nonsense, the gay marriage push, etc. The problem is their leaders are becoming more decrepit, their folk heroes are outright criminals, and social media is making it impossible to sweep their more unsavory elements under the rug. If the 1960’s revolutions were today, every normal person would see the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

Exactly. The Summer of Floyd was simply a recurrence of the Long Hot Summers of 1965, 1966 and 1967. And so long as we keep playing paddy-cake with the nuggras, we’ll get plenty more of that kind of action.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

The great thing about the phrase “America First” is that it has the same quality that “Black Lives Matter” unfortunately shares: to push back against it makes someone look really, really bad. “You aren’t for America first?” “You mean black lives do not matter?” The rhetoric survived the Nazi fearmongering for a reason–to be offended by it is to lose.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

The Finkels neutralized themselves by importing their new overlords, the Pajheets. Let’s see how they like being ruled by an alien people with alien attitudes.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

The Pajheets are perfectly comfortable working with the Finkels. That said, the first have a better sense of tribe and physically look different than Europeans. The Finkels can only co-opt the civilization of Christianity, being familiar with it in rejection of it. The Pajheets come from a pagan society unfamiliar with it other than in the form of British colonization. India is a basket case. It’s not going to take long for Pajheet to be an obvious bad idea where the Finkels can blend in indefinitely.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

One should not underestimate the amount of pure hatred that motivates the anti-America First bunch.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Dutchboy
4 months ago

I can’t speak for all, but there is no level of hatred that could possible come close to matching what I have for the anti-America First bunch…

Auntie Analogue
Auntie Analogue
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

All the arguments over “America First!” would evaporate if the slogan were to be replaced by “AMERICANS First!”

“America First!” embraces empire, while “AMERICANS First!” puts the emphasis smack dab where it belongs, on us, “the people.” “AMERICANS First!” embodies the principle of government serving the people, while “America First!” embodies an imperial imperative.

“AMERICANS First!” demolishes missionary wars, imperial sanctions on foreign powers, “free trade,” “refugee” resettlement, legal and illegal imminvasion, and all the other ills that the Imperial Ruling Elite have imposed upon us, the people.

Montefrío
Member
Reply to  Auntie Analogue
4 months ago

Very well thought out and said! Indeed, it is Americans whose interests should be uppermost in the mind of anyone who aspires to office as well as in the minds and actions of all those who occupy its soil, particularly those who have no legal or moral right to be in the country and those who are public employees, all those whose incomes depend on taxpayer largesse. Americans First! The collective abstraction “America” is ever-more abstract as the nation fragments into identity politics, regional differences more pronounced than at any time since the mid-nineteenth century, plus a financial system directed… Read more »

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Montefrío
4 months ago

Immigration boosters have taken to referring to asylum scammers and the rest of the immigrant horde as “New Americans”.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 months ago

illegal aliens —> illegal immigrants —-> undocumented immigrants —-> undocumented workers —-> Dreamers —–> New Americans

Alzaebo
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 months ago

RETVRN to Roman tradition

Crucifixes lining the seven roads to DC

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Montefrío
4 months ago

Well & clearly said both of you.
Thank you

Alzaebo
Reply to  Auntie Analogue
4 months ago

Oh damn, Auntie. That says it ALL.
It’s not retribution, it’s reparations.

Make Helicopter Rides Great Again!

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Dad Bones
Dad Bones
Reply to  Auntie Analogue
4 months ago

Good point. If “Black Lives Matter” had been something like “Black Nation Matters” they would have gotten a lot of pushback.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

One area where I strongly disagree with Z-man is his theory that the Regime is indifferent to Whites…Not at all true..DEI is explicitly anti-white, and many of their supporters (mostly deranged females) absolutely hate whites..They have been destroying white jobs and opportunities for decades, at least 50 years, and promoting every 80+ IQ foreigner or mutant into their jobs…This has been quite visible to some of us since the early 1970s….

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  pyrrhus
4 months ago

Just out of high school I applied for a job with a government agency. It was part time and involved collecting data from remote seismic recording stations that did not have telemetry. They were serviced every two weeks, needing batteries, a change of the paper on the data-recording cylinders, etc. The candidate needed some understanding of various technologies. Two white guys interviewed me. My answers had them looking at each other in consternation. I thought what in the world – these are easy questions. Then one of them said “I’m really sorry, we’ve been told we have to hire a… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Right Doctor
4 months ago

Yet another example of nothing new under the sun. The anti-white crusade has been with us for over half a century. Quite sad that many whites are only how hoisting in the unsettling truth while others continue to resist it.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

I don’t think people were in denial that it was happening; the term Affirmative Action has been with us for a long time. While AINO was 90% white they felt there was an upper limit to how much AA could be done so they were more willing to tolerate it. Now that the percentage of whites is dropping toward 50 they realize there is no limit.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

But AA is more than a horrendously misbegotten government initiative; it is an entire culture. Hence, mere scrutiny, let along criticism of negroes is forbidden on pain of personal bankruptcy, while the most nugatory of negro “achievements” are vaunted as if they landed on the moon, composed the fifth symphony, or built Durham Cathedral. In any sane nation, i.e. one bereft of AA, nobody outside of Bed-Stuy or Compton would have even heard of rap, yet it’s AINO’s national soundtrack. The flipside of this moronic negrolotry is an uncategorical condemnation of the Blue-Eyed Ice Devil as the source of all… Read more »

Pozymandias
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

There’s also the way the remaining Whites are encouraged to adopt perversions and affectations as a backdoor into the AA/DIE benefits. White women, in particular, are encouraged to adopt a trashy, slutty image and denounce men. The overall rule is that if a White person, male or female, wants to get a slice of the AA pie, he must debase himself, adopt an offensive and ugly personal style, and generally act like a fool or an uncouth savage. This is how you become an “honorary negro” and become acceptable to the corporate culture.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Pickle Rick
4 months ago

“However, as we have seen happening more rapidly as of late, flogging the dead horses of the mid 20th century does have an expiry date.” In reality, it should no longer have any effect whatsoever. But it still does. We’ve been brainwashed. I was born 25 years after ww2 ended and I still have all this programming. We all had this programming. It came from everywhere. From the TV, from the schools, from the press and radio along with books and magazines and from the culture. “Racism” being defined as the worst evil imaginable. After all, went our programming, it… Read more »

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

We are in cultural collapse. The Finkels and what’s left of European elites in government will realize the problems way too late.
Whether or not we survive our luxury junket with “tolerance” is up to God.

joey jünger
joey jünger
4 months ago

I think you’re right that the system dodged a figurative bullet when that literal one merely grazed Trump. Another few centimeters the other way and they would have gotten what they wished for, only with terribly ironic consequences, like something from “The Monkey’s Paw.” Walter Kirn—an old-style democrat from Montana and not given to hyperbole or conspiracy—says an old regime friend told him the plan was probably for Trump to be dead before the RNC. The seeding of the media with stories about an Iranian hand in assassination attempts would have helped Haley astroglide her way into the nomination, the… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  joey jünger
4 months ago

The prosecutions have merged in the public mind with the State-sponsored assassination attempt. That’s not a good long-term prospect for the Regime. Stalin learned this the hard way but he was crazier than he was stupid. Our versions have that in reverse order.

But, yes, slow, steady decline is possible. Don’t discount a sudden collapse, either, if the lunatics decide the window is closing to conduct another world war. It is a miracle we have avoided a nuclear war so far, and that is only due to the Russians being less emotionally incontinent than the domestic psychopaths.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

The “islands” of the Russian Collusion Hoax and the theft of the 2020 election need to merge with the sham prosecutions and assassination attempt to form the Peninsula of Perpetual Peril for the Power Structure.

Krustykurmudgeon
Krustykurmudgeon
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

What about covid? I’ll never be convinced that it wasn’t part of coordinated psyop

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  Krustykurmudgeon
4 months ago

Of course it was. Mail.in only
.the entire scam preplanned.
It was ready to go & did what was intended.
The attempted assassination dosen’t pass a smell test either.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  joey jünger
4 months ago

I’m the only one who seems to interpret this to mean that the Biden presidency and the stolen election was engineered by people FRIENDLY to Trump.

“…How do you attempt to ‘sneak one in’?
How do you attempt to ensure victory? …”

https://qalerts.app/?n=4014

—–

Sometimes you can’t TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE. …”

https://qalerts.app/?n=4908

Knock yourself out with the downvotes.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

How did you draw this conclusion that people friendly to Trump undermined him in 2020 by design?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

To me it’s pretty obvious. As bad as our system May be, it isn’t this bad. As Sundance has said, it appears to me that they’ve got Judas a goats throughout the system pushing the right buttons, exaggerating what has gone on in the past so that it hits us upside the head, so we see it, so we get to a slow boil so that Trump can do something about it. Election night was a great example. That just doesn’t happen in real life. Likewise with the 59 times the courts told people to pound sand after they complained.… Read more »

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

None of your word salad explains people friendly to Trump tanking the 2020 election as some form of 3D chess.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

I never said this is 3D chess. It’s just a movie. It’s just a scripted way of disclosing what goes on and telling a story in a dramatic way.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

I want to be there when you and the other Q tards tell that firefighter’s widow and the guys in prison for J6 that this is just a movie.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

In my dreams at night, I’m playing strip 4D chess with the incomparable Princess Irulan too

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

🤣🤣🤣

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Dr. Jill, please take the keyboard away from your husband.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

I read that lunacy several times and still don’t see how it supports a contention the system isn’t as bad as it seems.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Talk about taking one for the team!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Cold sober, too.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Mercy, mercy me…

Salmon
Salmon
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

You’re a regular Zman reader and you don’t get that the system is, in fact, far worse than bad? Again, how do you even find places like this? I always assumed Qboomers’ heads would explode if exposed to a lot of the information people talk about on here.

Carrie
Carrie
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Your attempt at logic is understandable.
But, uh, we had a coup.

America had a coup in 2020 that was engineered by the Kuh-bal and its useful idiots.

Hun
Hun
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Please stop with the Q spam. We have standards here.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

I will be proven right in the end. There is no such thing as coincidence.

Feel free to downvote. I get a kick out of it.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

You’ve gone off the rails a bit lately Nick, you used to be solid.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell and various other cucks were telling you that Q was fake. That should be a red flag right there

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Pelosi and Schumer aren’t cucks; they’re unabashed, baldfaced, white-hating Leftists.

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

The most hilarious thing was when Trump was asked by some MSM talking head about it and she was saying these people think that these high profile people were abusing children/’adrenochrome’ etc., (note that this was during the height of Epstein exposure), and Trump was like yeah, well, what would be so bad about people that would want to stop that type of abuse? Whoops. lol

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

“There is no such thing as coincidence.”

But God does have a sense of humor wouldn’t you say?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

You know, in 2016, I thought God was pushing it along. I thought there were so many obstacles put in Trump’s way that no mere mortal could surmount all of those challenges unless God was helping out. But I scratched my head as to why. Why would God care what happens in a single election when he’s got a billion planets to tend to? I thought it might be the abuse of children that got him involved for a while. But, nah. Everything is too scripted. It’s all part of the same psyop. It’s a psyop from the good guys,… Read more »

Stephanie
Stephanie
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Well, there’s the scripture about when abuses are so bad they reach to heaven. That covers that. It’s probably hard for Americans to really understand how bad things may be around the world especially for innocents. We’re slowly finding out though.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

TempoNick, looks like you’re a fan of X22 Report featuring “Dave.” Dave’s been pitching the same message for a long time, which is essentially the Qanon “trust the plan,” which includes the regime being arrested any time now. When nothing happens, Dave kicks the can down the road a bit more, with his declarations that “the people have to see it.” It’s a lot of hopium and copium, and he says absolutely nothing about the war on White people or the tribe holding vast disproportionate power, which speaks volumes about Dave’s credibility. Dave’s a true gatekeeper with thousands of patriotic… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

Yes, but why would Eric Trump appear on that show twice? If there was nothing to queue, it would be toxic to Eric Trump. He wouldn’t get within a thousand miles of that show.

Dave also has a lot of gaps in his knowledge and his pronunciations of things, but that’s okay. The podcast is entertaining enough.

Salmon
Salmon
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Because he was paid to and it’s campaign season for his dad. The only person mystified by his appearance on some random Qboomer podcast is you.

Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Trump blinked 17 times during his RNC speech. Q-proof! Q was either a major NSA psyops or a couple of geeks having a laugh in their mom’s basement.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

The two questions I ask myself is, first, who made Google change their name to Alphabet, as in “alphabet agencies?” (Seed money for Google was provided by DARPA or so they say, and we all know intel uses them to spy on us.) Big corporations have no sense of humor. They wouldn’t poke fun at themselves like that. It was 2015 so it was pre-Trump. Second, who made Zero exit out from the back of the plane in China? Foreign countries don’t do that to foreign leaders. Unless of course, the people who are really in charge were trying to… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Wolf Barney
4 months ago

Is Dave waiting for the Hale-Boppe comet?

The cucks just haven’t gone under the knife yet.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

I’m glad you get a kick out of downvotes. Here. Have another of mine. Does my heart good. And there’s plenty more where that came from.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

I’m confident I will be proven right in the end. I’ve staked out my position here and on other boards and will continue to do so. I can’t believe you guys are on the same side as Nancy Pelosi on something and it isn’t causing you to question things.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Yeah, you’ve staked out your position alright. Ad nauseum.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Staking someone out sounds oddly appealing for some reason…

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I’m usually willing to be steaked out. And I’ll even bring a good bottle of zinfandel.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

A far more plausible explanation is that you were put on this earth by an all-knowing Creator so that on a day in July 2024AD for a brief instant, several people would agree with Vinnyvette about something. For once.

The Lord moves in mysterious ways. Or the Simulator is just @$#%ing with us.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Zaphod
4 months ago

People agree with me about a lot of things. They just can’t handle my no kid gloves, in your face “Trump esque” style. 😉

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Hun
4 months ago

Yeah, that about sums it up for me. Hun, I’m gonna stop right here and pause reading the commentary for a while. The postings post assassination attempt have become less than informative and interesting and the crazies seem in ascendency. As I’ve said before, a few trolls can destroy a discussion section very quickly, as so it has for me.

UNZ is even worse, but that’s to be expected. However, UNZ comment program allows threads and posters to be blocked and at least one can filter out the good from bad until things die down.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

Well dammit, don’t stay gone long, you are truly a steadying hand.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Compsci
4 months ago

If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You sound like a woke, “need a safe space,” karen. This is a public forum not your own private club.

Salmon
Salmon
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

How do retards like you manage to find places like this?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Salmon
4 months ago

He who laughs last laughs loudest.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  joey jünger
4 months ago

“Ivanka’s sewer-dwelling prince” and astroglide her way into the nomination”. Thanks for making me laugh this morning.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  joey jünger
4 months ago

“If thou striketh the King, strike not to wound”. This is the quote you mentioned although I cannot remember where I first saw it. As per your comment about Haley, I’d have to agree. The big tell is that in a number of quarters her name keeps coming up with regards to a place in Trumps future administration. I keep hearing – usually from a female – “Trump still hasn’t told us what position he’s willing to offer Nikki Haley. He keeps preaching party unity, but people in her former campaign have told us they’ve received no outreach from the… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

Her position in the administration should be doggie style…

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

You have piss poor taste in women.

BigJimSportCamper
BigJimSportCamper
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

“Why do they call you Lassie….?”

cg2
cg2
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

you stole that from Hoagie a ways back

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Steve
4 months ago

To the Lal Bagh with the LOL Bag.

I subscribe to the General Dyer School of colonial administration. If there must be colonies. And there ought not be any.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
4 months ago

One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans.

This is one hundred percent wrong. Public policy is explicitly anti-white. My main fear is Trump will be allowed to win to lure whites back into the fold, particularly for use as cannon fodder in Forever Wars. I have yet to hear any explicit denunciation of a military draft although Vance came close.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

It is genocide not just neglect

usNthem
usNthem
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

And right on cue, some 98 y/o WW2 veteran said he’d enlist for Trump. Ischmael must be rubbing their collective hands in glee…

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Uh no! Trump “no new wars.”
Not just a slogan, because he proved it his first term. If Trump gets back in he will broker a deal with Putin to end the Ukraine fiasco, cut off funding, and tell Zelensky to take a hike.

He will likely calm the sabre rattling with China, because he knows the U.S economy is completely dependent on Chinese manufacturing. Trump’s recent comments on Taiwan suggest his stance is “you’re big boys now, fight your own battles.” You’re position has an element of paranoia to it.

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c matt
c matt
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

You left out one glaring hotspot.

Could be his “No new taxes,” “read my lips” moment.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Less paranoia than realism, but from your lips to God’s ears, Vinny. I really want to hear an explicit plan to exit this madness.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

I already out lined what I think Trump will do regarding foreign policy. Trump tried to do what he said he would to: the border, returning manufacturing to the U.S. and getting off of dependence on China and the b.s. “free trade” raw deal. You’ve seen him thwarted at every turn, by the swamp and most of his own party. This isn’t the same Trump this time around. He appear’s less naive. He’s learned you can’t make honest deals with the democrats or the swamp, and I think he’ll be less afraid to be the strong man he was accused… Read more »

Salmon
Salmon
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Agreed. This would still be a pretty nice place to live if the rulers were merely indifferent to whitey.

Xman
Xman
4 months ago

“Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.”

Project ISRAEL is exactly what Washington warned about in his Farewell Address:

“…nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded… The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.”

Too bad nobody stood up and read that line during all the Israel-fellating at the Republican convention last night…

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

That’s a new one on me. I didn’t realize it was the Jews whacking the Kennedys. Makes complete sense that our greatest ally was responsible. Their diaspora has done essentially the same thing to the American economy.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Read about Dimona at Unz Review.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

According to many “experts” Mossad had a hand in wacking the Kennedy’s. One of those experts is Ron Unz.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Did you know Jack Ruby’s real name was Jacob Rubenstein?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

That, I did know. I wonder if Jeff Ruby who also owns a high-end steakhouse chain based in Cincinnati is also related.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Wait until you learn about Johnson’s connections to Israel and Jews.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Do you think D.C./Tel Aviv will install a successor puppet government or just let Project Ukraine go after Zelensky achieves room temperature? I don’t have a feel for what will happen afterwards.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Considering we were in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years and accomplished nothing, I am not optimistic.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

I think Project Ukraine is over. Tel Aviv has concerns closer to home now, and American resources need to be redirected.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

I agree (with one of ours here) that Argentina is another bolthole in preparation if Ukraine and Israel both end up going south.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

I really hadn’t considered an Option 3 but that is certainly a good possibility.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

Something Ollie Stone neglected to tell us…

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  thezman
4 months ago

It’s actually quite shocking how easily the US political system was taken over. You’d think that other countries/groups would follow the blueprint.

When I look at what the Jews have done, it’s not that impressive. They accomplished a lot but, mainly, because they had no competition. They’re an ethnic mafia, that’s all. If another group was willing to use the same tactics, Jews would lose a lot of their power.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Indians say hold my beer.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Please to do the needful and hold my Kingfisher Lite!

Pozymandias
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Is that what the Pajeets drink? Never heard of it but I’m imaging some kind of Bud Lite type swill.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Pozymandias
4 months ago

Kingfisher is their most famous brew. Never tried it, myself. Generally drink white wine with Pajeet grub.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Pozymandias
4 months ago

Kingfisher (can’t speak to any Lite version) is a surprisingly good beer. This despite my not being any fan of Indians.. not by a long shot.

As are Tsingtao, Zhujiang (both Chinese).

Beer Lao (for years, the brewery was the most modern shiny thing in Vientiane — looked like a spaceship had landed in the paddy fields) scores well.

The strangest places have good beers.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Zaphod
4 months ago

I just made up the “Lite” part.

And agreed on Tsingtao. A good quaffer.

Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

I got kicked off of twitter for comparing Afro-Aryans (jews) to australoid Aboriginal-Aryans (Brahmins, as the original Dravidian Indians are the same genotype as Australian Aborigines).

These hybrid Aryan mulatto branches are uniquely dangerous in that they leaven Erectus social instincts with White intelligence.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

As Z mentioned, a big part of the problem here is Trump’s base demands support for Israel. It’s been preached to them from the pulpit all their lives. I don’t know if there’s anything we can say (however true) that can overcome that. When I’ve tried, I usually just get those blank stares which indicate communication has ended.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

I usually ask a few questions: in what way are they our greatest ally? Did they ever fight in a war with us like Great Britain, France, Canada, Australia, etc.? Are they a key trading partner? Do we share a culture? Are we neighboring countries? The only response I ever get is that they are the only democracy in the ME. I then ask how that helps us more than non-democratic countries like Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. That’s when I get the blank stares, or something about how hard they had it during the holocaust.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Oy! Always wit da Shoah!

DLS
DLS
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

I forgot to mention this one: “they give us a lot of intel on their Muslim neighbors”, to which I respond “so we can kill their enemies for them?”

Xman
Xman
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

“The only response I ever get is that they are the only democracy in the ME.”

Hamas was elected in democratic elections in Gaza… the American goyim uncritically accept the Jewish propaganda, which tends to omit that inconvenient fact.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

Democracy, schemocracy. Looking at Our Democracy and how it sprang from plain ol’ democracy, I’ll never look at this form of government again as an unfailing badge of moral sanctity.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

Not to mention that Israel founded Hamas to splinter the Palestinian Authority.

Pozymandias
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Yes, it’s amazing to think of it. Israel’s democracy creates vast amounts of economic and political “turbulence” in that region. Give me a good solid Arab dictatorship or monarchy and keep the damn oil flowing! That’s the beginning and end of any legitimate American interest there.

Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

The genesis of anti-white fervor is the Holo concept, “if white people stand up for their own interests, well, you know what happens…”

Remember that one, my fellow Boomers? We used to hear “you know what happens” all the time.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

You are not going to find any republican / conservative candidate who doesn’t kiss the ring of Israel at least publicly for the sake of appearances “politics.” You are never going to get perfect, from any president.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Xman
4 months ago

More wisdom in that one little statement from Washington than all the methane-enshrouded blether that has been emitted at the Rep convention combined.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans. Affirmative action was rammed down upon us in 1964, and made even more intrusive by Johnson via totally democratic EO in 1965. That’s 60 years; if we use the standard 20 years as representing a generation we see that three generations of White people have now been actively discriminated against by Ruler fiat, with no end in sight. Doubtless the millions of Whites who were violated through this legislation will be relieved to discover it was… Read more »

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

Reginald Denny was the white trucker beaten in the LA riots. Travis McMichael was the jogger you allude to.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Thanks, you’re right. I was groping for Rodney King.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

An act I wouldn’t suggest to my worst enemy.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Well….but I was groping with my nightstick after a hearty breakfast at Whammy Burger. @3g4me this is a reference to the 1993 film Falling Down).

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

Oh, right. I was thinking of the other jogger in Georgia who grabbed for the gun of the guys making a citizens arrest. Anyway, I didn’t mean to detract from you excellent post.

DaBears
DaBears
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

I couldn’t have stated it better. Snuff out their genetic line entirely.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

As Z notes, the cost of the empire has become too high. As such, our elite will have no choice but to scale back. It was inevitable. The dollar’s place as the Global Reserve Currency allowed us to maintain a ridiculously large military but at the expense of our manufacturing base and the rise in debt. Mass immigration and globalization kept the white working and middle class on their heels and inflation at bay. But those policies were slowly eroding the very society that our elites need to run the world. Our hollowed-out manufacturing base can no longer supply the… Read more »

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
Reply to  Citizen of a Silly Country
4 months ago

Reality always bats last and its average is 1.000.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

This. Reality has a quality of its own.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Reality is the worst mistress to cheat on. She always gets the last word

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

And right now the bases are juiced.

Ed
Ed
Reply to  The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Deep. Am definitely borrowing for future use.

Wkathman
Wkathman
4 months ago

“Either the reformist elements of the oligarchy embrace America First, or something much worse than Trump comes next.” With the changing demographics in this country and the way that such a development affects voting, I find that final sentence questionable. Besides, the system has proven itself impervious to the results of elections. It appears that Donald Trump’s original term as president had zero impact on how the leviathan actually operates. That Trump obviously is a massive CULTURAL figure/icon blinds people to how inconsequential he has been in terms of how the state manages its affairs. The same bankers, military industrialists,… Read more »

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
Reply to  Wkathman
4 months ago

This is entirely possible but I offer an alternative scenario today. You certainly are correct about the first Trump years.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Wkathman
4 months ago

“the system has proven itself impervious to the results of elections.”

Nah, he has been very successful in my opinion. Whether you consider this a plan or is unique ability to goad them into shooting themselves in the foot, we’re at a point right now that an unprecedented number of people feel about the federal government like people in the Soviet Union felt about theirs 30 years ago. They are hanging by a thread and hopefully Trump will follow through and demolish what’s left of it when he steps into the oval Office in January.

Wkathman
Wkathman
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

You must have slept through the whole period of January 2017 through January 2021. How many times will you try to kick the football that Lucy/the system keeps teeing up for you? Politics is theater.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

I agree. Think about all the evil Trump exposed, even if most of it was unintentional. The first step toward change is getting accurate information. It might not happen until hard times come, but they cannot re-hide what has been exposed.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
4 months ago

“…it is simply indifferent to white Americans.”

Lol, no. Just no, and it’s not even wrong. Heat shock and Z probably hadn’t put in a proper cycle since the move. Understandable.

The Right Doctor
The Right Doctor
Reply to  Forever Templar
4 months ago

I just realized a good characterization of our side of the divide: uppity whites.

RealityRules
RealityRules
4 months ago

I watched that Glenn Lowry and Charles Murray clip posted yesterday. It is interesting to watch these discussions of the utter verbal abuse of Whites and our civilization. Of course, they didn’t really discuss the mass replacement of our population inside of our homeland. That aside, the point that stands out is this. In every single one of these discussions the the talk is about how they fear the backlash. In other words, what is wrong is that Our dispossession and abuse is not the problem. The problem is that it will spark a backlash. That is how ingrained the… Read more »

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  RealityRules
4 months ago

Hear, hear!

Arshad Ali
Arshad Ali
4 months ago

“As the cost of empire exceeds the benefit of the empire, the people at the top begin to hollow out that which makes them possible.” Quite so. Maybe there was a time after WW2 when the empire served the majority of white American people but now empire serves only a minority — maybe the top 10 or 15%. The rest of white America is subsidizing the costs of empire. Or as the saying goes, “profits remain private while costs are socialized.” Thus the unfolding debacle in Ukraine has perhaps benefited the military-industrial sector — but at the cost of everyone… Read more »

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Arshad Ali
4 months ago

Military supremacy is gone, in the sense of supporting empire. There is still military power in the sense of destructive force, but that does not maintain rule over foreign lands. For that, you need competent boots on the ground, and the US doesn’t have enough of that. And that’s a good thing.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
4 months ago

Trump did indeed infuriate the bad guys with his naughty talk but he governed pretty much as a standard Republican. He violated Machiavelli’s rule: Never do an enemy a small injury. Talk infuriates but action incapacitates. I don’t think he has it in him to do more than use his mouth but we shall see.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Dutchboy
4 months ago

“I don’t think he has it in him to do more than use his mouth”

This. Did Trump ever use the veto pen? Not that I recall. I will vote for Trump just to give the finger to the Regime, but even if he gets back into office, he has shown he’s not very good at the job.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
Reply to  Zulu Juliet
4 months ago

Trump is a real estate developer. The job involves slinging a lot of convincing BS. It’s a hard habit to break.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Dutchboy
4 months ago

I think it comes down to if he personally accepts the lone nut narrative the regime is pushing over the hole in his ear. Hopefully he pulls enough away from boomer truth and finally gets it in his head that we’re at war and his instinct is to fight.

Hemid
Hemid
4 months ago

I’ve heard that “the polls” (whichever ones) are unchanged by recent events. Obviously opinion can be generated and/or selected to send whatever message, but it’s a plausible result. It’s true—or it’s The Message. What is it? A blatant regime attempt to murder the great symbol of its opposition—of citizen resistance to anything—cost it no votes. The victim’s heroic/mediagenic response to getting shot in the face gained him no one’s consideration. There are not only no undecided voters, but no persuadable Americans. Literal death moves no one. I believe it. As I say too often, Democratic voters are far more “extreme”… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hemid
4 months ago

You are correct. I beat this drum a lot, but the primary problem is quite white. My dream scenario, the most non-violent one possible, is that these types secede. The problem, again as you point out, is that the politicians are less radical than their constituents and want the present situation with its attendant gibs to continue.

I suspect the 2020 election was outright stolen to forestall leftwing secession. I honestly have no clue if that will happen this time.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

No, Jack, you are absolutely right to beat that drum.

As an example, the comments on a dissident site, the Burning Platform. Despite the author’s good intentions, most of the comment section was /our guys/ flailing about, desperate to shout “Dye patch!”

This is why the rulers are, yes, utterly indifferent to white, middle class Americans.

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Maxda
Maxda
4 months ago

John Glubb wrote at length about the final stage of empires. Corruption and foreigners become prevelant. History repeats repeatedly.

The works of the contemporary historians of Baghdad in the early tenth century are still available. They deeply deplored the degeneracy of the times in which they lived, emphasising particularly the indifference to religion, the increasing materialism and the laxity of sexual morals. They lamented also the corruption of the officials of the government and the fact that politicians always seemed to amass large fortunes while they were in office.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Maxda
4 months ago

Glubb does not get enough attention. His essay is still the most precient on decline I’ve seen. I think he set the frame we must understand current events within

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Years ago when I first learned about Glubb I found it a bit strange to say the least that an Englishman stayed on with the Arab Legion and fought against the ‘Good Guys’. The brainwashing one grew up with….

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Maxda
4 months ago

Has there ever been any era or place in which the scribes did not deplore the degeneracy, the indifference to religion, the materialism, and the lax morals?

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Yes, there have been. It is real that civilizations decline and when they do people ignore God, want stuff, and sleep around.

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Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Wiffle
4 months ago

Old Fart in an Edo sushi bar ca. 1845 after over-bingeing on second-hand shunga prints:

O Tempura! O Morays!

TempoNick
TempoNick
4 months ago

Slightly off topic, but somewhat related: JD’s parallels to Zero are a little scary. Touted as “a Marine”, he was a journalist like Al Gore. Plucked from obscurity, back bench senator, short timer, Ivy League (Yale vs. Harvard). Connections to Asia a via India for him and Indonesia for Zero. Both were introduced to us through ghost written books that’s springboarded them to the Senate. Billionaire sponsors. Holes starting to appear in his resume. Today, I was reading how he wasn’t very good at private equity. Everything seems to be a media facade these days. Nothing there when you scratch… Read more »

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

Coming out of nowhere like that does make one wonder. Interracial marriage, too. Seemed like a lot of the alt-right and alt-lite guys had that going on. Like you can’t say things that need to be said if you’re trad and normal, because you’d obviously be a Nazi or something, but hey, this guy’s wife is brown! It got that screwed up that fast.

I’ll give the guy a chance, don’t know enough to judge. Then again, I thought that about Obama lol.

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Paintersforms
4 months ago

Somebody ran a clip the other day about the Ohio Republican Senate debate and how he said that he was getting closer to his faith and got rebaptized or something like that. Of course, the cynical side of me says he did that to prove that his wife didn’t turn him into a Hindu.

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Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

It’s a fad among the Thiel-affiliated to become late-in-life Catholics. Maybe he requires it. The obvious joke is that he can’t quite force his loyalists to convert to his religion—pederasty—so he demands the nearest thing. Judged by his face, Vance’s conversion was superfluous. Hi-yo!

Honestly I find Thiel nearly incomprehensible because he seems so thoughtless. (“René Girard’s protegé” btw.) But I understand what his companies do: catalog us malevolently.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Hemid
4 months ago

For us pleb Catholics who really believe the faith (how very gauche), I can only say: God will not be mocked.
Dante’s Infero can catch everyone up with what Catholicism really teaches on grooming and homosexuality. Priests per capita are far safer than public school teachers.
The small hats did do excellent job at the smear campaign though, regarding the people who the Church was persuaded to take in the first place in part because of their influence.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  TempoNick
4 months ago

A serious Catholic would never be rebaptized. I am not convinced that all these nominal Catholics in globalists circles are all that serious. They do seem to comfort the elites though and they are rather fond of the art and the intellectual traditions within the faith.

Zfan
Zfan
Reply to  Wiffle
4 months ago

i question this assertion that Vance was “rebaptized”. The Catholic Church recognizes every baptism done “in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit”. He was received into the Church as an adult, as I was, and that does not include baptism for a baptized Protestant Christian. No Catholic priest would “rebaptize” a Catholic. As the parent of a child being baptized he will repeat the vows on behalf of his child.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Zfan
4 months ago

Yes, I agree.

Fakeemail
Fakeemail
4 months ago

Are we still not aware elections are rigged? Trump will be installed, if they want him to be. And perhaps they do as Ackman and others are balls-out on the Trump train. Trump unabashedly is pro Israel as we know.

A great irony of Trump, is that at heart he’s just a civ natter and would like nothing more to be legitimized as a respectable republican who lowers taxes, loves legal immigration, and gets people all patriotic and stuff.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Fakeemail
4 months ago

I believe there is a limit to how riggable they are. If Trump were able to flip a couple of traditionally blue states like New Jersey or New Mexico that ought to overcome it. And then there’s the question of what if the riggers themselves aren’t so motivated this time. It doesn’t seem like Biden is inspiring very many people lately.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

To the extent that there are difficulties with rigging, the biggest may be that many people are onto the riggers this time. The 2020 theft caught people by surprise just as much as Trump’s election caught the Power Structure by surprise in 2016. But the mechanics of the 2024 election will be under more scrutiny–the vast majority of it unofficial–than any election in AINO’s history. Anything suspicious will be documented and disseminated. And if the shenanigans are prevalent and obvious enough, and Joey Depends “wins” again, there could be displeasure.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

“…a limit to how riggable they are.”

The ballot harvesters really can only operate at scale in a relatively few black or brown urban swing state districts.

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Hokkoda
Member
4 months ago

“or something much worse than Trump comes next.” A retroactive prophesy. They failed to embrace MAGA IN 2017. What followed Trump 45 is absolutely, measurably, objectively, worse. Economy? Worse. Inflation? Massively worse. Foreign affairs? 2.5 new wars. Illegals? 30M invasion. Roads/bridges/infrastructure? Cratering outside of government-controlled enclaves and key Congressional districts. Social cohesion? Worse. Orderly politics? They’re now arresting, jailing and shooting at our candidates. What could be worse than the O’Biden regime? Nuclear war. Economic collapse. Anarchy/color revolution terrorism. Balkanization. American military forces deployed against US citizens in “troublesome” areas. The elite’s version of what comes next was installing a… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Hokkoda
4 months ago

You’ve got a dramatic flair for the dystopian.

Hoagie
Hoagie
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Actually I think that’s a dystopian flair for the dramatic.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Hoagie
4 months ago

But he’s 100% right on the money. I think you and the other schmuck lack an eye for the obvious. Or just have a bad case of bargain basement TDS.

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Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
4 months ago

America First is simply government doing what it SHOULD’VE already been doing: The work of making the lives of the people it is supposed to serve better. When I think of all of the good that could done with keeping the billions we’ve spent on the Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan projects, it breaks my heart. Our interstates are pockmarked with suspension shattering ruts and potholes, our bridges are falling apart, crime is rampant in our black-infested hellhole cities and airplanes are falling from the sky. And yet the ruling elites only care about immiserating whites with the climate change mumbo… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
4 months ago

“I know electing Trump will only be a slight improvement over Biden in a lot of areas, especially when it comes to Israeli matters. But a new Trump administration will likely at least change philosophy of government from anti-white pogroms to something more acceptable.” Change is too strong a word here. I’d say temporarily suppress might be a better way of putting it. Trump is to politics what a painkiller is to stage 4 cancer, temporary relief at best. But this is the best case scenario where Trump actually learns from his first term. Having picked a never-trumper is proof… Read more »

ProZNoV
ProZNoV
4 months ago

If by some miracle Trump wins, his only path to success is to initiate Operation Valkyrie against his own entrenched military industrial Congressional complex. (Didn’t work out well for Stauffenberg)

I’m not optimistic.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  ProZNoV
4 months ago

The assassination attempt, the fist and the high of its failure was a boost. But now it’s back to what passes for normal. And we still have all the same problems. Civilizational crises of this magnitude take a long time and a lot of trouble to work out. We’re still in a rut

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

It’s curious that the Ds suddenly toned down the BOM messaging. As if they never meant it. If they did mean it then they should want him dead. Maybe it will return, but when? How? Awkward.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

“No harm! No foul! See, it was all just a joke, we really didn’t mean it! You guys did it, anyways, what’re you blaming us for?”

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

You’re not wrong, but always remember that despair is a sin.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
4 months ago

Great essay – I would just add the following: we are seeing Intra-Elite competition emerging aligned with the America First narrative. It sucks that grass-roots Dirt people cannot accomplish much without significant Elite support. And for sure the movement risks being co-opted by self-interested Elites. But the last few weeks have seen meaningful segments of Silicon Valley and Wall Street get behind Trump/Vance. Unfortunately the best we are likely to do in the short run is get an Elite more focused on domestic concerns. These people want to do business, not fight foreign battles. They’re always going to support Israel,… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Captain Willard
4 months ago

I don’t think it is unfortunate at all. All revolutions require elites gone rogue. The problem is co-opting. That aside, the booing of Mitch McConnell was a healthy development.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Captain Willard
4 months ago

This is the best thing coming out of 2024 so far. Finally we are getting a counter-elite. There is something shifting out there. Hopefully it’s permanent and not just a pendulum swing. Compare where we are now compared to this time last year: *DEI is falling by the wayside, one large corporation at a time. *Nationalists (civic or otherwise) are gaining popularity in the West. Not electoral wins yet, but it’s only growing. *Big-money men are starting to talk about meritocracy again. If nothing else, this will fix a lot of problems. *Biden has been embarrassed multiple times, and nobody… Read more »

Hun
Hun
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

Honestly, 2024 feels like an echo of 2016.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

The turning of Elon Musk has been pretty remarkable. He is very outspoken, young and cool, has a lot of billions to throw around.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

George, don’t get wobbly on me now…

No really, not bad, not bad at all. That’s a great list.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Captain Willard
4 months ago

Stock market go up, the donors must’ve breathed a sigh of relief. They will never, ever, blame themselves, they’ll just have an epiphany that see, they were actually right all along. Trump’s really not so bad, they knew that all the time.

The Wild Geese Howard
The Wild Geese Howard
4 months ago

Commie traitors always accuse others of committing the crimes they are guilty of:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ex-cia-wife-wapos-spy-hunter-max-boot-indicted-foreign-spy

Jan
Jan
4 months ago

This election is far from over for Trump. I fully expect some sort of incident that will be blamed on him and his followers. Like a suicide bombing in a black church where the only remains of the bomber are his red maga cap and his “Fight Fight” t-shirt. Those in power right now must be terrified about the prospect of vengeful OrangeMan conducting an investigation into the attempt on his life – or worse – making Kennedy AG and letting him off the leash. I can’t see a scenario in which the current administration just allows this to happen.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Jan
4 months ago

There’s a sense in which the regime seems to be all bluff. They like to appear totalitarian but they don’t really like to act totalitarian. Seen during the plandemic when they backed down as soon as anybody resisted. A similar feeling seems to be in the air this week. As if the moment the assassination failed, they realized they didn’t have it in themselves to go all the way. I don’t know how or if they can restart the Enemy Of Democracy rhetoric now that they’ve retreated from it. Either you meant it or you didn’t, and if you meant… Read more »

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Jan
4 months ago

Like a suicide bombing in a black church where the only remains of the bomber are his red maga cap and his “Fight Fight” t-shirt.”

This is very easy to imagine happening.

(I am told, but have not verified, that the FBI did a similar bombing in the mid 60s that they blamed on the KKK.)

Tom K
Tom K
4 months ago

Maybe the Regime is indifferent to the average White American in terms of foreign policy goals but the average coastal drone within that hive does hate the average White Heartland American. That has been proven time and time again by their actions and words. The usual suspects running foreign policy and the oligarchs behind them such as Larry Fink of Blackrock aren’t going to slow down or reconsider their goal of bringing Russia to heel, ideally even breaking her up to gain control over her natural resources and just because Trump is in the White House won’t change that. If… Read more »

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Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

We’re going to need a bigger trump than Trump

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

Trump is Godzilla. there is no political animal in American politics bigger than Trump, and nothing close on the horizon.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

The Trump you imagine is not the Trump that exists in the real world. But hope is necessary so I don’t have a beef with you preaching the gospel of the savior

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

I said nothing of Trump as savior. I said there is no one bigger than him, because you’re wrong. Name he or she who is bigger than Trump. I’m sure I’ll be waiting till hell freezes over.

Blasphemous
Blasphemous
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

George Soros

your boy Trump holds no more real power than Hulk Hogan

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Blasphemous
4 months ago

You’re just as much an ass clown as your boy Hulk Hogan. Got something better? If Soro’s had THAT much power Trump doesn’t win in 2016, and Soro’s rent a DA’s bogus cases are all going belly up. Documents case against Trump dismissed. Etc… etc…

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Blasphemous
4 months ago

Half true. Hulk Hogan is not turning over government rocks and exposing the lizards and maggots. Trump is a first step. Whether we take another step is uncertain.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
4 months ago

“The Trump you imagine is not the Trump that exists in the real world.”

Knowingly or not you have successfully translated the first line of the Tao Te Ching into 2024 American. Care to continue? 😀

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

What Moran said.

Godzilla is we, the people, tuning in on white identity politics, something the internet gave us.

Trump simply found a way to ride the monster.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Yes. The internet is for us what the television was for a certain other Tribe. The mad scramble to control its information and content indicates as much. Take note how much further to the Right so many young whites are.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

The mad scramble to control its information and content indicates as much. 

It is quite incidental that a lot of the kosher-right reaction to the Curious Case of Trump’s Ear is about cancelling mean words on the internet.

“Oh, vey! Some leftard on the internet said he wished the sniper had brained Trump! Shut it down!”

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

On the other hand they’ve invented a new word, “photoganda” for the iconic image. Photograph + Proganda.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

It’s sort of interesting that they acknowledge that such media can be used for propaganda purposes. Because all their photos exist only to disseminate The News, you understand.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

Yes. Along the same lines, it is amazing how TikTok only became problematic early last autumn.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

That’s dumb. Photographs and even paintings have long been used as propaganda. We have really good records going back to WW1. It probably happened before, it’s just not as well documented. I’m sure one side of the civil war had the other side’s soldiers painted to look like demons or something. They probably had recruiting posters with paintings like this. Or “our women” being attacked by the evil enemy.

Zaphod
Zaphod
Reply to  Tom K
4 months ago

Teacher: “Yes Joyce. What is it?”
Irish Snottyfaced Kid in the Back: “Photogander Sir!”

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

We saw the same with the evil TikTok becoming the demon du jour.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 months ago

Yes. The free speech internet anno 2000-2016 catapulted ourguys into prominence and success, and now you have ourgoys clamoring for more cancel culture. Hm….

The Gypsy King just released a good video on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTwZ3Vruw8

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

I can’t express just how much I disagree with him and his cucking. “Oh, I never cancelled anyone!!!” Make them live by their own rules. If we can’t have free speech, they can’t have it. Cause that’s the thing with “the left” All the rules are for us. The rules do not apply to them. They get to do whatever they want. “Right wing cancel culture” is awesome and I fully endorse it. Of course, I still oppose “cancel culture” when it’s used against us. Be hypocrites. It’s been 100 years of nonstop hypocrisy from “the left” Screw principles. The… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

If the Commies are against free speech and we decide, fuck it, we’re against free speech too, well, nobody is left to defend free speech. There are other ways to hurt our enemies than reinforcing the drama queen mindset that makes cancel culture possible in the first place; once the current purge of random Commie internet celebs is over, it’s still our enemies that sit in the HR departments, the universities, the news rooms and in the investment banks. I approve of double standards; I have one standard for my own family and another one for the neighbor’s, but this… Read more »

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

I’m not saying to abandon free speech for us. Just for them. I support our free speech. Because right now, the only people supporting it don’t have it. To defend their free speech is to defend the status quo where they have free speech and we don’t. EFF THAT. It would be far better that we both don’t have it than only they have it.

Of course it would be better if we all had it because we win. We are right and they are wrong.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

I’m not saying to abandon free speech for us. Just for them. In principle a morally sound and sensible proposition, but 1) we don’t have that power so let’s not give corporate more excuses to fire people for thoughtcrime, but more important 2) if we engage in cancel culture, we reinforce their frame, the notion that saying mean words on the internet is the worst thing ever. It has the same self-defeating effect on the discourse as saying “Dems are the real racists.” Cancel culture gives our corporate overlords more power: if they want someone out, they can just scroll… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

I agree with you wholeheartedly. And not so very long ago I was dam’ near a free speech absolutist.

Principles are for schlemiels and shmucks.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Do you also agree it’s a clever tactic to call Commies “the REAL racists?”

Because it’s the same problematic.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

But there is a difference. “Democrats are the real racists” is merely bad rhetoric. Our refusal to defend their rights only they have is not bad rhetoric, it’s action.

It’s also right out of their own manual(rules for radicals), which is always make your opponent live up to their own standards.

Besides, there are enough cucks who do denounce what is deceitfully called “right wing cancel culture” to maintain plausible deniability.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Tars Tarkas
4 months ago

“Democrats are the real racists” is merely bad rhetoric.

No, it’s a poison pill because it reinforces the Leftist frame that being racist is a bad thing. Same thing with reinforcing Karen culture. Censorship is the ring of Sauron, it cannot be used for good. Whenever you wield it for whatever reason, it makes Him stronger.

And the left doesn’t believe in free speech so you’re not making them live up to anything, you’re living down to their standards.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

I agree that reinforcing racism/evil is a bad thing. And it’s a good point to make. However, I think branding Leftists as anti-white racists more than makes up for it by giving credence to the notion that whites are a distinct group with our own legitimate grievances. If reinforcing racism/evil is a 6 on the badness scale and bolstering white identity is an 8 on the goodness scale, then that’s a plus-2 for white people.

PS–Are we certain censorship is evil? Do we think Putin should have let Pussy Riot do their thing?

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

However, I think branding Leftists as anti-white racists more than makes up for it Yes, “anti-white” is a powerful rhetorical device but it’s a tactical one because eventually, when our brothers are ready for it, we’ll have to abandon it, make a 180 and choose “racism is love” instead. That transition might be harder if we’ve spent a decade pretending to be butthurt about being called crackers. And likewise, if we reinforce the notion that words are violence, we muzzle ourselves in the long run, because our overlords will run with it like a nigger with a stolen flatscreen. I… Read more »

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Yes, “anti-white” is a powerful rhetorical device but it’s a tactical one because eventually, when our brothers are ready for it, we’ll have to abandon it, make a 180 and choose “racism is love” instead. That transition might be harder if we’ve spent a decade pretending to be butthurt about being called crackers.”

That’s a bridge I’m willing to burn once we get to it, Felix. Right now, the most important thing is arriving at the bridge and I’m willing to use any tool in the box to get there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

I would like to see Trump or somebody else with a huge megaphone call the pomo fascists anti-white racists because that’s what they are, and it needs to be said. In this case, honesty would dovetail with doing what’s best for whites.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

If it makes anyone feel better, there has never been such a thing as “free speech”. Lefties used it as a modern club to get their way. However, there is always someone censoring speech at all times. The only thing under real discussion (ha!) is who does the censoring for what. Free speech as defined by the Founding Fathers was: The Federal government could not jail state leaders for working against a Federal government gone astray. State leaders were always welcome to censor speech however. What’s in the Bill of Rights existed only at the Federal level generally to protect… Read more »

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Wiffle
4 months ago

there has never been such a thing as “free speech”. 

And we’ve never had the internet before.

Lefties used it as a modern club to get their way.

And it worked like a charm. Would be a shame to throw that club away, now that we’re the ones fighting The Man.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

I’m all for “turn about is fair play”. 🙂

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

He is talking about “a person” singular. A political figure. Not the body politic.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

And it’s not Trump as a political figure that’s big and scary, he just looks that way because he’s sitting on top of Godzilla.

The usual suspects are not afraid of Trump – he’s one of their guys after all – they are afraid of a white awakening, and they project that fear and hate onto Trump.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

The usual suspects are not afraid of Trump – he’s one of their guys after all – they are afraid of a white awakening, and they project that fear and hate onto Trump.

I think you nailed it right there.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Correct. And the members of the Power Structure scare quite easily. That makes them easy to defeat in a pitched battle between roughly equal forces, but reckless and exceedingly dangerous when they own the heavy battalions.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Yes, exactly. The objections to Trump are about all their worst fears, not that he’s actually their worst fears.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Where was this “we the people” monster before Trump hit the scene? 🤣🤣🤣 grilling and chilling.
Trump is Godzilla, the leader, the people have followed.
Trump has taken all the abuse from the swamp / MSM / and now an assasin’s bullet.
“We the people” my ass! 🤣🤣🤣

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Riding the monster, yes. But he had to put a large enough saddle on it to hold his balls. He is married to a super model and owns his own golf courses. He does not need to risk his life, freedom and wealth just to pad his ego. There is a much higher reason he is risking so much.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

He’s married (for the third time) to a retired sex worker cum executive mail order bride, whom for some reasons Americans think is Jackie Kennedy reincarnate, just because she doesn’t dress like a burlesque dancer. And the fact that he’s a millionaire only makes him more suspect, because the more you have, the more you’ve got to lose. Trump 2016 was an aberration, he was signed up as a side show and was not supposed to win, so he didn’t take his own campaign very seriously. Trump didn’t as much mount Godzilla as Godzilla noted him making vague, pro-giant lizard… Read more »

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

A bit harsh, Felix. A fashion model is a “whore”, a man risking everything is “more suspect, because the more you have, the more you’ve got to lose”, and a man who was an inch away from being murdered by the usual suspects “has reached an agreement with a powerful faction of the usual suspects.” You are a usually very sharp observer, but you might be having an off day.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Alright, “whore” is technically incorrect, but “sex worker” isn’t. I admire Melania for the grit, smarts and determination that bought her a ticket out of a dilapidated Warsaw Pact country as soon as the Iron Curtain fell, and carried her all the way to the White House. But still, seeing her as FLOTUS rubs me the wrong way. Speaking as a bigoted Germanic, the first Eastern Europeans who came West after the Wall, were Slavic prostitutes and farm workers; Melania is of that generation and she doesn’t look like much of a farm worker to me. As for the ear-business,… Read more »

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DLS
DLS
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

My bar on first ladies is whether they are pleasant to look at on my TV, or do I lunge for the remote. I’ll give you Jackie, but since then, which FLOTUS rubs you the right way: Jill, Michelle, Laura, Hillary, Barbara, Nancy, Rosalynn, Betty, Pat or Lady Bird?

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Jill, Michelle, Laura, Hillary, Barbara, Nancy, Rosalynn, Betty, Pat or Lady Bird?

Very good point, although I’ve nothing against Nancy – I assume “Lady Bird” is Eleanor, because she’s pretty much the worst of the bunch.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Lady Bird was LBJ’s wife. Eleanor was FDR, before Jackie. She was awful, but it’s hard to rank anyone worse than Hillary. Actually, Laura Bush was fine, other than having the terrible judgement to marry a drunk, who along with his appointee justice John Roberts (overseer of the kangaroo FISA courts), set up the modern domestic spying apparatus, and is the reason this post is being added to my NSA potential terrorist file.

BTW, none of the downvotes are mine, as I enjoy your comments even when I disagree.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Don’t worry about the downvotes – I have picked up a couple of stalkers in here who downvote everything I post, plus when you shit on Melania, you get what’s coming to you.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Yes, many modern conservatives are in love with Melania. I admire her for the same reason that you do. Clearly she intended to get out of the poverty of home and make it. She did it, with the rings on her fingers to prove it. However, one of the elite objections to Trump is that he’s low class in every way possible. His current wife, at very best, is from a class of women that we used to call gold diggers. She certainly has no problems mostly disrobing in front of cameras. She might be otherwise an honest and pleasant… Read more »

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Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Wiffle
4 months ago

She certainly has no problems mostly disrobing in front of cameras.

And no problems disrobing entirely and pose naked for lesbo canoodling in an old school fap mag. I’m not going to drop such a link on Z-man’s nice, family-friendly site, but it’s easy to find.

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Robbo
Robbo
Reply to  Wiffle
4 months ago

The masturbatory focus of conservatives has since shifted to Tulsi Gabbard. It was vomit-inducing reading all the trad cons slobbering over her just because she has a pretty face and said some ear candy.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Don’t worry about the downvotes – I have picked up a couple of stalkers in here who downvote everything I post, plus when you shit on Melania, you get what’s coming to you.

Get in line newbie!

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

I don’t know who you are, and that makes you the new guy.

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TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Back in the 1970s, it was Greece that was the joke in those parts. Slovenia was fine.

Alzaebo
Reply to  Felix Krull
4 months ago

Ha! We are really conflicted, aren’t we?

About, well, everything. That is the mark of a goodly and honest people.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

I wrote a long, eloquent refutation of this “only indifferent to Whites” nonsense, but it was eliminated by moderation. I presume it was because I used the taboo N-word voodoo. Which only further amplifies my point that we are very much second class citizens, and indifference has nothing to do with that.

TBF I assume this was the platform muzzling my Crime Think, and not the Z Man.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

If I know anything about how this works, your post will suddenly appear in some number of minutes or hours

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Tons of my posts have gone into moderation lately. I assume they all bubbled up, like belches from a tin of tainted clams, to the surface eventually, but don’t know for sure.

Wiffle
Wiffle
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Haha!

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

I had two post’s held in purgatory with zero naughty words. Appeared, dissapeared, re appeared with “awaiting approval.” Z says he doesn’t know what I’m talking about. Maybe he doesn’t personally moderate, but farms it out.
Non the less, something stinks in Denmark.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

I dunno, I frequently disagree with Z’s take, but it seems to me he allows pretty free reign out here on the board.

Z may be wrong, but I will defend to the point of very mild inconvenience that he allows the rest of us the chance to do the same.

I’m betting its a hiccup with the new commenting whatsit. Especially after my post magically re-appeared.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

”Waiting for approval” message is in the code. It’s not merely a glitch.

Zulu Juliet
Zulu Juliet
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

You’re stuff is there, Botts. Pure high-octane sarcasm. Well done.

Ploppy
Ploppy
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

The old comment section would sometimes just eat my comment to the point where I was typing it in notepad first but so far I haven’t had that with the new one just a delay when I use the funny nicknames I have for Jews.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Ploppy
4 months ago

I thought funny nicknames were a way to sidestep moderation.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

Pretty sure Krull recently dropped an N-bomb and it didn’t sink his post. Who knows what’s going on?

Sgt Pedantry
Sgt Pedantry
4 months ago

I do not know about “reformist elements” but someone inside the Hoover Building is trying to signal to the House of Trump and the rest of the inner party by arresting Max Boot’s wife.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Sgt Pedantry
4 months ago

Yep. And the absolutely repellent Neocons make fine sacrificial lambs. The retarded and equally despicable Never Trumpers also will be thrown into the burning pit to make peace. My God these people are stupid.

Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
4 months ago

Look (as all the Washington pundits say) if we can’t recognize that this Thing is wrapping up right now, then what’s to talk about? Z Man, you’re taking a long-view here, yes? As in, there will come a time when it’s transactionally-more self-interested to ignore American Zionist concerns, and at that time, pragmatic politicians (not necessarily Trump, because this isn’t happening anytime soon) will shift their policy preferences. I’m thinking we really don’t have that kind of timeline based on the events of the past ten years and particularly the last week. And Biden’s just getting started after the RNC… Read more »

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Nick Note's Mugshot
Nick Note's Mugshot
4 months ago

I imagine Rob Reiner will soon be remaking The Boys from Brazil with Trump clones instead of Hitler ones.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Nick Note's Mugshot
4 months ago

The Proud Boys from Brazil: Annudah Shoah, and This Time It’s Personal

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 months ago

Final Tap, the mockumentary on the Trump assassination by Marty DiBergi

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Symbolically, a second Trump presidency at least puts the foreign and domestic policies you reference in your article Z “on the table.” Trump will be on the bully pulpit preaching, and the MSM and D’s will be screeching. Although you are correct that the swamp will do whatever they can to thwart all of Trump’s efforts, the normies being exposed to these policies on the regular due to the daily battle can’t hurt or make anything worse. Trump putting these recycled paleocon policies back into public discourse in 2015, did open a lot of eyes, and create a lot of… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by Vinnyvette
Tars Tarkas
Member
4 months ago

Vance is even less scary to the political class than Trump ought to be. Even if Trump wins and gets into office without the system taking him out, he will mostly govern like a run of the mill Republican. Anything he does that they don’t like they can block easily or at worst, undo it in 2029. Better yet, there hasn’t been an official recession since 2009, other than 2 extremely short minor 1 quarter slowdowns. We’ve printed at least 15 trillion Dollars since then. If the era of cheap money implodes under Trump, well, just blame Trump and not… Read more »

Major Hoople
Major Hoople
Member
4 months ago

Akshully, I think in the penultimate paragraph you meant “the usual suspects are not terribly smart but they…”

sentry
sentry
4 months ago

“The odds of Trump winning are not good…”

Why would globo-homo actors attempt an assassination if Trump’s odds of winning are not good? Why bother?

“…despite all of the good things breaking his way.”

I doubt Trump is so lucky, CNN forgot how to do propaganda.

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1813557975761773006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1813557975761773006%7Ctwgr%5E6cf16a693cfe7934becb0200ac6042fb9f62102b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  sentry
4 months ago

Agree. The Trump shooter was no mythical lone wolf, he’s a copy and paste Lee Harvey Oswald patsy without the gravita’s and experience.

If the swamp has the election fix in hand, not only did they not need to try and take him out, every failed attempt to take Trump out politically and now literally has backfired and only benefited Trump. The Swamp is running scared.

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  sentry
4 months ago

At the moment, Trump is probably outside the plausible margin of fraud in a race against Biden, but there are other factors in play. A foreign crisis, economic distress, “natural” disasters, “terrorism” or even another assassination attempt could reset the board. If Biden withdraws, the entry of a new Democratic candidate could re-energize the party. However, it is difficult to imagine younger Democrats like Newsom, Whitmer or Shapiro wasting their shot by running against a presumably invincible Trump.

I will merely note, as have others, that the Blood Countess of Chappaqua has been very quiet of late. Too quiet.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
4 months ago

No doubt H would take the job if it was available to her, but I find it hard to believe that The Precious would pressure Joe to step down on her behalf. Perhaps on behalf of some other “woman.”

JaG
JaG
4 months ago

This is what I enjoy, all of the armchair pundits proclaiming that this is it. It’s not, this is the beginning. We’ll never see Emperor Trump. It’s gonna be someone else, and it’s gonna crazy. I await the “… strange new respect for Donald Trump…” pieces. Please practice second order thinking.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  JaG
4 months ago

The Z has been doing “strange new respect for Donald Trump” pieces on the regular.

Forever Templar
Forever Templar
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Noticed the slight shilling going on, too. He’s probably got some under-the-table money coming in from a Trump-related entity. It’s not a negative accusation, per say, I merely suspect a lot of mature, non-insane political voices who’ve been cast into the void might be being courted somewhat. Sailor got brought back after all.

Citizen of a Silly Country
Citizen of a Silly Country
Reply to  Forever Templar
4 months ago

Sailer rise seemed to coincide with Oct. 7 and the college protests. I’d suspect that the tribe decided that if they’re going to be forced to be on Team Whitey, they should push colorblind civic nationalism rather identity politics.

Chet Rollins
Chet Rollins
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

God himself reaching out and saving a man’s life will do that.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Chet Rollins
4 months ago

Which god? Because they were praying to Wahegru at the RNC.

DLS
DLS
Reply to  Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
4 months ago

The one true God, who is not responsible for RNC stupidity.

Alzaebo
Reply to  DLS
4 months ago

Say what you will, but the blacks can be uncannily straightforward.

A black man said the power of prayer is what turned Trump’s head at that crucial millisecond. The prayer of millions altered reality; an unscripted glance, 1/20 of a second, and we would’ve been in a different world right now.

I accept this as true, it accords with all I’ve found. We are in a spiritual battle of dueling realities and different gods.

To describe such as this hand or that hand at work is only a semantic difference. ‘Tis the Hand that turned that man’s head.

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Bloated Boomer
Bloated Boomer
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 months ago

A black man also said AMERIGUH isn’t racist. Over and over and over again.

They truly are our greatest gifts from The Almighty.

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Vinnyvette
4 months ago

Z has mentioned in the past that Trump has top-tier political instincts (which is correct) and that he supports the people who expose the corruption of and do maximal damage to the current Regime. If some Democrat were doing this, like a better version of Tulsi Gabbard or RFK Jr, I think Z and many of us would be “respecting” him or her too.

It doesn’t matter if the Trump-Vance ticket disappoints you. What matters is the people that want to kill you also want to kill them. That should blessedly focus our efforts.

Mike
Mike
Reply to  Marko
4 months ago

Comment of the day, whinging about Trump/Vance is rejecting the best we can do for now while waiting for perfection. I root for everyone who is a threat to the status quo. With enough small victories you can win the war.

zummliller
zummliller
4 months ago

If Evangelicals stop worshiping Jewish people, Trump will be less enthusiastic for Israel, because Israel stops being important domestically.” This is an invaluable word of warning & advice, Trump or otherwise. The whole of the worshiping body of Jesus Christ (not just evangelicals!) needs to ‘de-gnositcize’ eschatology and keep it in the proper Biblical & historical context . The Jews of Christ’s time zone are not the Jews represented today.

Alzaebo
4 months ago

It all goes back to counterfeit assignats. The French Revolution was…a real estate scam. In order to break the Catholic heart of the Holy Roman Empire, which was France, the same banking interest that financed England’s first Parliament promoted the confiscation of Church properties in France. The Terror wasn’t to scare the peasants. It was to scare the aristocrats into leaving, and leaving their properties behind as well. An unlimited supply of counterfeit paper assignats then bought up those Church and landry properties at a steep wartime discount; they were resold for hard gold, and that gold ended up in… Read more »

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George
George
4 months ago

Semiconductor manufacturing went to Taiwan because the US didn’t want it anymore. It was more toxic than gold mining. Taiwan, like many islands in such situations, didn’t care.

TempoNick
TempoNick
4 months ago

“The reason this terrifies official Washington is that all of their projects and therebefore their reason to exist rest on the assertion that overseas concerns are paramount because they serve the interest of the empire. If politics moves to a debate about what is and what is not good for the American people, suddenly these schemes not only stop making sense, but they also sound un-American. Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.”

Yep.

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WCiv911
WCiv911
4 months ago

The notion often expressed here that elections don’t matter seems to conflict with the argument that MAGA has the hopeful potential to prevent or at least impede America’s march towards doomsday.

Vinnyvette
Vinnyvette
Reply to  WCiv911
4 months ago

Election’s don’t matter is akin to Trump derangement syndrome.
Of course they matter. When the swamp gets a politico friendly to their agenda. It makes things easier for them. With a guy like Trump they have to work overtime.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  WCiv911
4 months ago

You could make a case that elections matter for some things, but I’ve never seen them matter for support of Our Greatest Ally.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

Pardon me for being optimistic, but I notice that America First or MAGA has done a mostly exemplary job these last few years (J6 aside) of refusing (either through discretion or sloth) to take the bait and denying the Borg the casus belli it seeks. As this has gone on, the Borg is slowly becoming infected/corrupted by America First/MAGA to some degree, which wouldn’t have been possible if bait had been taken. Yet as AF/MAGA corrupts the Borg, simultaneously the Borg corrupts it. This has led to more, but certainly not all or close to all, of AF/MAGA’s interests being… Read more »

Alzaebo
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
4 months ago

You know, that’s like a lake becoming a marsh, becoming a peat bog, becoming a meadow. I especially like “…as AF/MAGA corrupts the Borg, simultaneously the Borg corrupts it.”

Vegetius
Vegetius
4 months ago

Despite being a generally one-note accelerationist, I am much more sanguine about Trump’s chances — so long as he has additional security watching his security’s security.

I have also persuaded myself that Trump cannot make worse appointments than he did last time. Especially if Don Jr has a hand in their vetting. A second Trump administration may look more like a clan affair than anything we have yet seen. But to what use would such an organization be put? They seem to be thinking long-term, but what are they thinking?

Spingerah
Spingerah
4 months ago

Yes absolutely much worse, for every one.
It would behoove them to understand.

clrariz
4 months ago

If 1/2 of 1% of Americans would understand our Constitution and the plan to return to it via https://tacticalcivics.com, we would be happier. Check it out.

Templar
Templar
4 months ago

Trump feels no moral or emotional commitment to Taiwan. 

Trump also seems to (rightly) see China as the most pressing threat on the horizon, though.

Stephanie
Stephanie
4 months ago

So true about the ‘cosmopolitan’ politicians. That makes me think of the AOC and Nadler press conference to address the huge influx of illegal immigrants coming into the city and they thought they would calm the people’s concerns about it by telling them all the things they were going to do for the immigrants!

They didn’t address their own constituency that they were standing in front of once. It was a sight to behold, and they got shouted down and out of their own press conference, deservedly.

Hun
Hun
4 months ago

Here is an interesting article about Vance: https://www.unz.com/article/hillbilly-agent/

King Kong
King Kong
4 months ago

The dynamic between empires and their subjugated nations is the same as between nations and the subjugated natural environments within their bounds: parasite and host

Chmi
Chmi
4 months ago

Only who knows the real meaning, as well as origins, of “America first” can appreciate why rashes show up on the skin of the usual suspects soon as they hear or read of it.

Since they see America as a means to certain ends, it’s very understandable.

Hun
Hun
4 months ago

How many days until Biden is removed from the race? Any guesses?
He is in isolation right now. Perfect opportunity to craft a narrative where Biden does some thinking and decides to exit the race.

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Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 months ago

If Hamilton hadn’t been an ambitious immigrant and a stock jobber, or if Jefferson hadn’t been a radical slave owner. Instead, we got two walking contradictions who didn’t like each other and fought, setting up the political dynamic since. What this country has always needed is some combination of their virtues.

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Vegetius
Vegetius
4 months ago

NateS over at 588 has Trump two points behind Biden in New Jersey.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
4 months ago

OT re: Crooks’ motivations, from NYT FWIW.

“But in the aftermath, when the F.B.I. was able to finally access Mr. Crooks’s cellphones and other electronic devices, agents could see that he had searched for images of Mr. Trump as well as President Biden, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland and even F.B.I. Director Christopher A. Wray.

Mr. Crooks also typed in “major depressive disorder” and searched for dates and places for appearances for both Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump.”

https://archive.is/GARXw