Tucker Carlson recently hosted a man calling himself Darryl Cooper to discuss a range of things, including alternative narratives of the Second World War. Cooper also calls himself MartyrMade online and hosts the The MartyrMade Podcast. He specializes in historical revisionism and the history of items that get little attention, like Jim Jones and the People’s Temple in the 1970’s.
The great and the good are in a panic, because Cooper, while on the Tucker Carlson show, suggested that Churchill was not the hero the official narrative claims, but more likely the villain of the story. Since the show aired there has been a steady stream of toadies and lickspittles pointing and shrieking at both Tucker and Cooper. By now everyone knows the drill.
As someone pointed out in response to one of the pointers and shriekers, the official narrative around the Second World War is closer to a religion than history. It is tangled up in the founding myths of the United States. It is part of the larger narrative that forms the identity of the American ruling class. To question any part of this narrative is to question the moral legitimacy of the ruling elite.
As an aside, Cooper is not breaking new ground regarding Churchill. Pat Buchanan wrote a book titled, Churchill, Hitler And The Unnecessary War, which sought to break the “cult of Churchill” that had come to dominate the American elite. The same people freaking out now over Cooper, freaked out of Buchanan, so the freakout works as confirmation of both men’s central claim.
The thing is though, the Second Word War is just one part of a larger narrative that makes up the great American myth of existence. The twentieth century saw a rewriting of American history to recast the founding, the war between the states and the emergence of the Global American Empire in the context of a great mission for which the American people have been tasked.
That is the show this week. It is not a comprehensive thesis on revising the American story, but more of a starting point for looking at the key events that make up the myth of the American founding and the myth of American purpose. After all, if a key item like the story of WW2 is fake, then it is reasonable to assume the story around other key events of the myth are fake as well.
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- Darryl Cooper On Tucker
- Revisionism
- Slavery Books
- Civil War As perfecting The Revolution
- Was It A Revolution?
- Was It A Civil War?
- The Ongoing Revolution
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“It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every single time. What are the odds?” – Norm Macdonald.
Even more striking, the good guys were always waging war on racism, sexism and homophobia…
Even more conveniently, every time the bad guys won and folks were sent packing, it was never ever ever the good folks fault. It says so right here in this history the good folks wrote.
Hitler was evil and Churchill was the West’s savior. My sources? The History Channel, Victor Davis Hanson, and Liz Cheney. Also, “Hogan’s Heroes.”
The Western Allies liberated plenty of concentration camps, though not a single death camp. Initially, a lot of the camps in the Western sector were believed to be death camps because of all the dead bodies, but after Eisenhower ordered coroners to perform autopsies on the bodies they found, it was concluded that nobody had been gassed and that the overwhelming majority had died of typhus, diphtheria and malnutrition. So after all the Western camps had been examined, the “death camps” left were all in the Soviet Sector, where no Western coroner was allowed. It’s still illegal according to “Jewish… Read more »
Hitler’s war is, by the way, copyright free. As in you can legally download and read it. It is entirely Denial-free as well, and because Irving never had tenure, his livelihood depended on making his books entertaining and engaging, so it’s a page-turner.
https://libmises.eu5.org/books/hitler.pdf
The same goes, apropos, for Churchill’s War, which Tucker’s guest is essentially paraphrasing. Alas, Irving has only finished two volumes, and it doesn’t seem like we’ll see a third in his lifetime.
https://almanaquemilitar.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Irving-David-Churchills-War-1-Struggle-For-Power-01.pdf
Hitler’s War is truly a page turner and far more insightful than schlock such as The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which was written by an American journalist. (Fyi, both authors can or could read and speak German.) Irving wrote also a book in the 1960’s about the holocaust at Dresden. I don’t recall the title, which I believe was changed for a revised edition. The original edition is mentioned with Irving’s name on the copyright page of my copy of Slaughterhouse-Five. This other book was written by a socialist who survived the great firebombing of Dresden, to… Read more »
“The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”
Shirer’s book is garbage, hastily written by a callow journalist.
Ali, with respect, your posting is what I decry here in the commentary. This book by Shirer is recognized as the seminal work on the subject of WWII. I remember reading it as a young boy. It is still read today as a complete and understandable overview on the subject.
Shirer himself was there during the NAZI regime. His book was a best seller, received numerous awards, and so forth.
You attack his work without a single supporting reason as to why Shirer is in error, or a citation as to support for you assertion.
Look in the index of Shirer’s ‘Rise & Fall.” No H word. Just a few sentences about Auschwitz as a labor camp. Weird, huh?
The editions are called The Destruction of Dresden, respectively Apocalypse 1945.
And don’t expect to find much in the way of eye-witness descriptions in Slaughterhouse, alas, it’s about five pages altogether. A great read if you like acid age sci-fi but it’s not about Dresden.
(And not up there with The Sirens of Titan.)
Churchill almost single handedly destroyed Britain in two completely unnecessary wars…Britain had no reason to enter WW1, and the Kaiser even. offered not to invade the low countries if Britain stayed out…Same for WW2…
Personally, I hated Churchill before it was cool. I started to think ill of him when I read about his genius plan to make a beach landing at Gallipoli when the Ottoman guns could reach the beach but the attackers’ fire would fall short of Ottoman positions. Later on, I learned about his general arrogance, bullheadedness and boozing.
Thanks for that! Over here we have the right, but not the ability, to purchase HITLER’S WAR, to paraphrase some forgotten comedian. I am skimming it now and had forgotten how funny some of the details are such as the Polish diplomat’s fear that Polish Jews would be repatriated from Austria to there post-annexation. This HAD to be suppressed as much as possible.
“Over here we have the right, but not the ability, to purchase HITLER’S WAR, to paraphrase some forgotten comedian.”
One such was Ron White, about the right to remain silent.
That’s pretty good, actually.
Thank you Good Sir for the link…It’s enlightening though reading through the comments and being able to tell who is (((who))) and who is one of us…
Yep, there are a lot of downvotes on quite obviously true comments.
Yea it would definitely be a fun discussion to actually analyze the why of why someone chooses to downvote someone…Is it just a disagreement with what was said, was it because they just don’t like the person from previous interactions so now no matter what that person said it’s an automatic downvote, or maybe the comment was on a person they are fond of so even if it’s true they will downvote it, or just subversives out doing what they do…Who knows really…
Everyone has their own system I guess. I hardly ever downvote—even when I vehemently disagree. If you make a thoughtful and serious comment, I consider it a fair posting. If I agree with you wholeheartedly, you get an upvote. Everyone else gets a quick read and bypassed.
Yep. Only difference is I never downvote without offering an explanation. If something deserves a downvote but someone already offered the same explanation, I skip the whole downvote thing and nod my head.
If I vote it’s accidental because I’m screwing around with the controls for one of my Japanese toilets and struck my screen by mistake. Wups.
Yowzer, Ty, brah
The mythology surrounding WWII is the foundation of the modern West’s morality – and it’s based on lies.
But those lies will crumble as the Boomer generation goes to that big disco in the sky. Young whites either don’t care or if they do, view WWII with the same emotion that they view Caesar’s Gaul campaign. They’re much more open to re-examining that period. And, of course, Asians don’t care at all.
They’re much more open to re-examining that period.
Yes.
And it’s happening right as we speak, with veteran Holocaust Deniers helping the young’uns speedrun their revisionist journey.
We’re so back.
My daughter mentioned wanting to visit the Holocaust museum in DC. I said fine, but just remember that it’s just propaganda. She seemed a touch surprised but then asked why. It was no more emotional than me telling her that a reality show had manipulated a scene.
My two nephews (13 and 15) think it’s funny to throw Romans. They know nothing about Hitler or any of that stuff, they just know it freaks out their teachers.
The forbiddenness of throwing romans and N-words with the hard R makes it great fun. It’s fun being naughty.
It is.
We used to do it in German class when ‘answering’ a question. At one point, we even got a bit of duct tape to make ourselves little toothbrush moustaches.
Mark you, our German teacher was a Turk, so perhaps she thought it funny too.
In those days, we just got told to stop be stupid. Nowadays, it’ll front page news on the Guardian.
Not only front-page news, but you’d be tossed in an imperial dungeon. And that’s no joke.
This period will pass. It’s just a matter of getting people to not poke the bear while the sycophants are in charge.
In the early eighties, I was out hiking with the boy scouts, and our leaders told us to knock it off with the heil Hitler-bullshit. For the rest of the hike, every time a car passed us, we’d spot some interesting bird or tree and point at it with our outstretched hands, marvelling at the beauty of Mother Nature.
Thinking back, I’m surprised they didn’t just drown us all in the ditch.
What is that thing you call boy scouts? What about girls and LGTBQ youths? What kind of primitive society did you grow up in?
FYI it’s now called “Scouting USA,” and they admit girls and queers.
When the Boy Scouts capitulated to the lunatic Left on the matter of girls and faggots, I knew the jig was up for America.
One of my liberal college profs compared the Boy Scouts to the Hitler Youth.
How original of him. :rolleyes:
The McHolocaust chain museums are all set pieces from movies. Real shoes don’t last that long, etc, etc. If you want rattle a mainstream conservative in one question, especially if they are from the South, ask why there is a Holocaust museum right off the national mall, but nothing in downtown DC that honors the dead of the War Between the States.
There is no finer demonstration of who actually runs the US.
There actually was a Reconciliation Monument in Arlington dedicated to the Civil War dead. The negrified and totally dysfunctional, pardon the redundancy, military removed it recently.
Arlington, while very close, is not the National Mall. And now even that one’s gone.
It’s ironic though that their mask is being pulled down and showing who they really are and wanting us too know who is ruling over us right at the same time everything is going to shit…Makes me laugh even though I know it’s going to be painful…
There really has been a remarkable change in the past couple of years both in terms of people being willing and able to talk about Jewish influence (control really) and Jews just getting sick of pretending to not be in charge. Changing times and demographics are hitting at once.
Product of her environment Brother…My kids ask me why there are so many books on the holohaux at our library and very few on the great depression even though the great depression affected Americans far more…
That’s a big piece of this. The people for whom WWII was a key religious tenet are having a harder time pushing back on it’s criticism because there aren’t enough of them to do so anymore (or are too old to care). It’s easy for people younger than them to look around and figure the wrong team won the war.
“And, of course, Asians don’t care at all.” I would agree they don’t care about the holocaust, but to say they don’t care about WW2 is wrong. The Chinese and to a lesser extent, the Koreans care deeply about WW2 and in some ways, like Jews, live in the past. Hating Japanese is a sport in China, at least as far as I can tell. I hear it is very common for school children to put on plays about fighting Japanese. Bayoneting straw soldiers wearing Japanese uniforms is also a fun pastime in China. Just a couple of months ago… Read more »
Yes, the hatred of particularly Japan apparently run deeps in her neighbors. The 20th century was brutal globally.
It is absolutely true, and even worse in the Philippines and some of the Micronesian and Melanesian island chains, and there is no need to embellish the Japanese atrocities because they were in fact as bad as billed. When Japanese tourists started to visit these places in full in the Eighties, violent assaults on them were common.
Yes, I meant the European theater and the Jewish Holocaust story.
Truth. I had no idea how strongly until probably 30 years ago when the town I lived near held some WWII festival (50th VE Day, I think) and a bunch of Koreans showed up. Most of them were Chicago-accented, so probably had been in the States a long time. But boy, oh, boy did the shrieking start when the topic switched to Pacific theatre.
One would have thought he was at a nog block party.
I have attended the Mid-Atlantic WW II show for the last few years. One thing I’ve noticed over the last two years is the amount of young people flocking to the German re-enactors and purchasing German stuff, asking the re-enactors questions and the like.
Hank Hill watching footage of ungodly brutal Asian wars: “So are they Chinese or Japanese?”
“ Young whites either don’t care or if they do, view WWII with the same emotion that they view Caesar’s Gaul campaign. “ No matter how universal the lies at some point all wars with a cultural impact have an expiration date. Only if a war matters on the home front to a cohesive nation will it get remembered without the power of the state, beyond it’s generational expiration dates. Examples: War Between the States in the South and for most of British commonwealth WWI, with Armistice day/poppies remembrance. Boomers love them some WWII, because it makes their Dads and Uncles heroes.… Read more »
But… But…My betters are of the opinion that if we just post crime stats and IQ graphs just a little harder we can achieve an ethnic renaissance without ever having to question the ethical system imposed upon us by the fellow whites…Meanwhile out in reality it’s 2024, the year the youngest boomers turn 60. The 21st century is a quarter over. Racist libertarianism from 1995 is not going to cut it, nor will the notion that there can be a separation under, or which maintains, the present moral dispensation. All this is obvious. It is also why I maintain that… Read more »
Kudos to you, Felix, for mentioning Irving: a man who seems to be loathed outwardly by many a historian, but is quoted and referenced all over the place. In front of me, I have in my hand Ian Kershaw’s work on Hitler… no surprise to see Irving all over the place.
Can you even purchase a copy of HITLER’S WAR in Old Blighty, though? Over here, despite our much vaunted First Amendment, it is largely inaccessible.
Interesting, Jack.
A couple years back I was definitely reading reviews on Amazon for it. A quick search reveals it is indeed for sale from multiple second hand sellers, and even through Amazon itself.
Irving’s life itself is as fascinating as his history books – he has been subjected to bizarre (and evil) treatment by many EU countries.
The lowest price available Stateside on Amazon right now, if I’m reading it correctly, is $180 USD for a hardcover. It doesn’t appear to be signed, either. As far as the demonization, check his Wikipedia bio. The spooks who wrote that dreck owe the copyright holder of “Holocaust denial” a fortune. If that account is any way reflective of any reality, Irving is quite ill now, it is sad to learn.
I don’t know whether it was coerced or not, but I heard Irving say, at least 10 years ago, probably longer, that he believes the holocaust official narrative, more or less. He said there were some minor disagreements with the “Official Truth,” but that it happened mostly how they said it happened. Though he did say there is not a single shred of documentary evidence that Hitler ordered it or knew about it.
That’s true. Two years in an Austrian prison taught him the error of his thinking.
He’s a modern Galileo.
The revisionist argument has never been that Jews didn’t die on the Eastern Front. Of course they did. The Einsatzgruppen shot hundreds of thousands as Soviet partisans. What has been questioned is a) the number of Jews that were deliberately killed vs. incidental war deaths (e.g. typhus) and b) whether the camps were “death camps” with gas chambers, or labor camps where a lot of people died from things like typhus and starvation as the Germans began losing the war. If you define the “Holocaust” as the belief that Germany killed some Jews on the Eastern Front, then yes, it… Read more »
Please don’t mistake me for someone who cares. Seriously, I could not care less how many Jews died or what their cause of death was. Those deaths are as meaningful to me as the death of Indians in the 1700s or of Genghis Khan’s victims. I am not happy or sad about their deaths. I just literally could not care less. OTOH, I absolutely resent the presence of holocaust museums in America. That’s how they thank us for rescuing their dumb asses, at great expense in both blood and treasure, by shouting “never again” at our children. It wasn’t done… Read more »
Oh, but it is our fault. In the city that I used to work in, they put a holocaust museum right on the property of the county government main office building. One of my coworkers remarked one day why any holocaust museums were on US soil to begin with, to which a jewish coworker said, “Because everyone must be reminded of what was done to our people.” The other woman said, “We don’t have memorials to our Civil War in other countries, the holocaust happened in Europe, so why so you need one here? We had nothing to do with… Read more »
I propose we also create a new holiday (or maybe several) called Deportation Day. It’s when we celebrate the first (of hopefully many) mass deportations. Kids can make a game out of it. You take turns being the dirty, shiftless foreigner, and then the heroic Border Agent charged with rounding up the scoundrels and herding them into the boats. Everyone makes colorful “get the hell out” signs and banners and sings songs about how happy they are to have their country back.
That is a very succinct summation of the revisionist argument. To itemize: 1) It was less than six million 2) There were no gas chambers 3) There was no centralized, premeditated plan to exterminate Jews 4) Hitler didn’t know If you want to get into denialism, I suggest you start with the gas chamber in Auschwitz, since that’s by far the easiest to argue and because The Big A. has such a marquee value for the Holocaust – if THAT is fake, why should we believe in all the other stuff? 1) There was a gas chamber in Auschwitz used… Read more »
I think that’s fairly new. I picked mine up from one of those used book sites Amazon links to. Must have been 10, 12 years ago, as I selected that as one of the texts for my firstborn’s history “class”. I know I didn’t give the $180 they are asking now.
“A movie like ‘Der Untergang’ ”
‘Der Untergang’ was one of those semi-banned films in the USA. Not much fanfare and quietly taken off after a few weeks. It probably made the tribe acutely uncomfortable as it showed the Germans as humans, and courageous and principled even in defeat. And the film wasn’t even revisionist.
The only revisionist bit was the depraved, drunken party instigated by Eva Braun, where she dances on a table. They made that up. There was a lot of drinking in the Bunker, but people kept it together to the end.
A youtuber going by the name of “Zoomer Historian” has a pretty good series on ww2 and particularly the Nazis. He mentions many times that Churchill had bankrupted himself and was being financially supported by some (((warmongers))). There was another guy too, who was in the Parliament also on the bankroll of these (((warmongers)))
Yes, it appears that Churchill’s thoughts about the Jews come from interacting with them a great deal. It’s just back then you could say stuff, with a new taboo imposed after WWII. Non-fiction publications are very startlingly different on that topic, pre and post WWII.
I’ve been reading Brann’s The Iconoclast recently, a collection of Gilded Age essays by a newspaper man, William Brann, that he sold in periodical form as a side business. Economics, history, culture, and race – it’s exactly like reading a blog from that era. But, my goodness, his essays on the 13% would make today’s Klansmen blush. And he had a circulation of nearly 100,000, many of whom were pillars in their communities.
Folks back then had the helluva lot better fix on the 13-percenters than do today’s Ivy League profs. It’s not even close.
The first time I encountered it was in Jules Verne’s Out on a Comet. Hilariously accurate. One of the character’s name is Isaac Hakkabut who is a sea based merchant. He’s a miserable creature who cannot get along with anyone in the colony and spends most of his time sulking in his ship. He constantly complains about being a poor Jewish trader. The colonists decide they want to measure their comet and ask Hakkabut to borrow his scale so they can weigh some coins to ascertain the gravity of the comet. But nothing comes out as expected. Eventually they figure… Read more »
Thanks for the reference Tars, I looked him up on U tube, listened to one , then subbed.Its easy for these younger guys to fly ( unter) my radar.
Churchill lost all his money on Black Tuesday of ’29, he had bought a manor house – Chartwell – with half a dozen maids and manservants, and this being during his wilderness years, his only income was from writing and speaking. Luckily a lobby group called Focus rode to his rescue. It was not strictly Jewish: although most members were Jews, there were also English Fabians and some industrialists who wanted the war to crush the German competition to British industry. The details of this group is what presumably is in Churchill’s War volume 3, which we’re still waiting for… Read more »
He had a fondness for attacks on civilians, e.g., poison gas attacks on Iraqi villagers, a plan to drop anthrax-laced bombs on Germany and, of course, the grand daddy of them all – the unrestricted use of area bombing on Germany.
Nobody’s perfect.
He needed all that dough to support his brandy habit (he put away large amounts of the stuff).
One of the most difficult things for people who come over to our side is coming to the realization that most everything you were “taught” about ‘Murica was a lie. I know it was somewhat difficult for me early on, but once you see it you can’t unsee it.
This idea that this country is so very good and everywhere else was so very bad was a crock of shit. The “good guys” seemed to win “every single time”. Isn’t that something…. Every. Single. Time.
As a whole I think America has been an absolute disaster for white people and I don’t particularly care about anything else, so yeah, fuck the USA
We must separate America proper (1776-1965) from transitionary America (1966-2020) and the GAE (2021 to the present). America itself was praiseworthy, albeit flawed as is every nation. The successive iterations increasingly less so even to the point that the GAE is quite literally the Great Satan.
I date the GAE from 1945, certainly there’s no dating it any later than 1991. Its racial politics/GR/war on whiteness don’t track the same timeline.
But was it really the GAE when it wasn’t attempting to condemn and subjugate white people across the globe? It seems to me that the Cold War was far less reprehensible than the War on Whitey, and it is that moral mulct that, in conjunction with its geopolitical aggression, largely define the GAE.
Sam Francis divided the political history of the USA into three phases: The first republic (1776-1865), the second republic (1865-1945), and the American Empire (1945 – ?). WWII was the definitive entry into the empire. Previous imperial-like adventures (the Spanish-American War, WWI) set the table but WWII was the main course.
Ostei, I think one must also note the fundamental shift that occurred in 1865.
A shift there most certainly was, and it was very unfortunate. However, although the instruments of totalitarianism were forged in the crucible of the Civil War, the permanent lurch toward Leftist tyranny didn’t occur until much later. I really believe Leftist supremacy, and particularly New Leftist supremacy, is the key factor in distinguishing between America and something far, far worse.
Maybe. My quibble is that the ideas acted upon then, jailing Maryland legislators without trial, suspension of habeas corpus, the executive ordering federal agents and troops to destroy the printing presses of dissenting journalists, deliberate targeting of civilians, income tax, etc., while rolled back, became a precedent for times of emergency, and by now, just whenevs, dude.
These are the byproducts of war. War has always served as justification for crackdowns on domestic dissent. Sometimes the crackdowns are even justified.
From my view, America proper ended in 1861. The experiment died. The Constitution never offered an exit clause. However, the Bill of Rights made it clear that the states intended to keep a level of sovereignty that Mr. Lincoln’s War destroyed. I would break up American history into these categories: -American Experiment 1776-1861 – We can still find vestiges of medieval European culture in America in this phase -Imperial America 1861- 1944/1948 – This includes the doubling of the US in less than few decades, the closing of the West, and the odd refusal of the Federal government by 1900… Read more »
It’s totally funny to me that vaguely hopeful opinions, with open praise for another poster will get negative votes.
I don’t understand how one sees negative votes on these threads. All I see are the aggregate sum with thumbs up being +1 and thumbs down being -1.
The history of USA is the history of a Freemasonic political system (created after independence) slowly corrupting a Christian people (derived from colonization). An evil system for a good people.
It lasted until mandatory schooling and mass media indoctinated American people with Freemasonic ideas. The 60s
No, not really. As a practicing Catholic, I appreciate us being right all along on the Freemasons. However, not everything bad in history can be linked to that group. History is not that simple.
Of course not silly, it’s the Jews! 🤡 Actually to think about it, a lot of times it probably is them. 🤔
Interesting. Hadn’t really thought about that much. Lately I’ve been learning a lot about the ideology of Nazism, and the line from Freemasonry through Rosicrucianism is not exactly subtle in von List, and even stronger in Fritsch. But I hadn’t thought to look for it in the American founding. Where do you see Freemasonry most prominently, or do you think it’s more of a background noise?
TBH, I’ve always written this off as Flat Earth, but after seeing the authors themselves tracing their ideas through Freemasonry…
Washington DC. The city’s layout. The location of buildings and monuments. I believe there’s still a statue of Confederate general Albert Pike in Washington DC.
Oh, yeah, I know that. Plus Washington wearing all that Masonic garb laying the cornerstone of the US Capitol. Franklin, too, I think.
Yes, I know Masons were involved. I just didn’t realize it was a “Freemasonic political system”. Which Article or Section suggests Freemasonry influence?
America is a philosophical product of the moderate Enlightenment which was the governing ideology of the founders. It is not a system compatible with Christianity. It has slowly rotted away any influence of Christianity on public policy. All the modern abominations (sexual deviancy, abortion, transsexuality) flow from it.
I see this a lot, and have not seen a good explanation. One need not agree with Kant in all aspects to appreciate his explanation that Enlightenment was just man casting off the self-imposed blinders that kept him from asking, “Why?” Yes, I get that the church at the onset of the Enlightenment was very much in the “accept our facts, or we will pluck out your lying eyes” but that was not always the case. The church was one of the big sponsors of the universities. Heck, the Scholastics were critical to the Counter-Reformation. I agree that the modern… Read more »
How does one view the Monroe Doctrine in light of the early Republic/American Experiment? We already had the capability at that point to pull up the draw bridge and concentrate on expanding and fortifying the territory between the two oceans. Why imply that our interests also lie thousands of miles off our coast, involving foreign powers and half-breeds with whom we share no common cause?
Bismarck noted the good fortune of America being surrounded by “oceans and weaklings.” Our statesmen have thrown away this precious gift and insisted on placing us on the dismal treadmill trod by less fortunate nations: chronic war.
Very well said and I concur…Even though the period between the rev war and civ war would of been tougher I think I would of rather lived then when they still understood what Community really was all about…
I tend to agree, Ostei. I’ve had some time to read older, out-of-print books on American history. They seem to describe another world. Something happened, but it was not from “the beginning”. The aspect of living in lies seems to have gone into overdrive in the 20th century.
Cooper has an excellent podcast series on Jeffrey Epstein. It’s truly disturbing in so many ways. Yes, there’s the Epstein is a monster aspect, but it’s the entire Jewish ecosystem operating within the US and, really, globally that astonished me. Epstein was just a cog in a much larger machine.
Right. I earlier referenced THE ANTI-HUMANS, Cooper’s earlier exploration of the communist terror and mass murder prior to the war. That subject along with Epstein cannot be explored unless the heavy Jewish involvement in both is examined. Much of the current fury is pent-up anger over the previous podcasts that touched on those subjects.
Both are greatly marred by not only the expected #notalljews style disclaimers but by barely contained rage at the imagined audience for thinking that any Jew anywhere has ever been motivated by Jewishness to do anything to anyone. What’s forbidden isn’t “noticing”—a consuming pastime / infinite game our rulers enjoy watching us play (and refereeing)—but simple understanding: Jews hate you. If you learn that from this guy’s work, which for layman-accessible history is exceptionally honest, that’s not what he wants. I’ve complained about him before, for other reasons. I know what school his accent comes from so I know what… Read more »
Excellent point. Still, his glow does not protect him totally, which is quite amusing.
I have to go back & re-read all the “real history” books that revealed lies I was taught about with my jew-dar on. In hindsight there was all sorts of things I read in passing that mentioned Epstein esque information but didn’t & simply couldn’t call attention to it too directly because no major publisher would ever allow it & mainstream stores would never sell it. Even in the conspiracy circuit that kind of stuff was nearly unanimously blacklisted & still to this day is. For example Laurent Guyénot tried to enter his JFK—911 documentary into a 911 truther festival… Read more »
I remember before Buchanan had quite been ridden out of town on a rail, he pointed out that there was a difference between concentration camps and death camps. A concentration camp, like Andersonville, was where prisoners were packed so densely that disease had no choice but to proliferate and people would die. See “Portals to Hell: Military Prisons in the Civil War” by Lonnie R. Speer. Or see present-day Gaza. Death camps, Buchanan correctly pointed out, were established with the sole purpose of killing. Rather than letting nature take its course in a Darwinian fashion, man would step in, to… Read more »
Buchanan (or whoever wrote Unnecessary War) is one example of how you can steal half your stuff from Irving without crediting him with even a single quote.
The difference between Andersonville, the Japanese internments camps, and Auschwitz, was that the peoples at Auschwitz were…you know. If Auschwitz had been peopled by Italians or Russians, I doubt we’d be hearing about it and the masturbation machines. But we all know this. This whole thing reminds me a lot about how the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) developed their view the “Rape of Nanking”. This was perhaps a more enthusiastic raping and pillaging of a city than the Japs normally did, but it wasn’t beyond the pale. The CCP didn’t really promote it until much later, when they decided they… Read more »
Look at what they said about October 7th. Their entire narrative has been totally debunked. The decapitated babies, the babies stuffed in ovens, the total failure of their security apparatus, the broken pelvis rape victims, the fact that a large number of Israeli citizens died at the hands of the IDF. All of this stuff has been reported in Israeli papers, or quotes from Israeli officials. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s just facts. Does it stop anyone from talking about the narrative, including the dead babies? It does not. They just keep talking about it like these facts don’t exist.… Read more »
I wonder if the Israelis focus grouped the decapitated babies stuff. Stevie Wonder could see that story was bullshit.
Plenty of lies to go around. American “news” outlets and politicians called J6 an insurrection and the biggest threat since Pearl Harbor. Newsies and politicos lie. It’s what they do. We had Russian Collusion, and are seeing it brought back around. There was no vote fraud. Get set for Covid II: Wrath of Con. The right’s narrative is “totally debunked”.
Wherever the truth in the Middle East lies, (sorry) it’s none of my business. We should have sat out WWI and WWII, and it would probably be a good idea to sit out WWIII.
Just one guy’s opinion.
The thing that saddens me the most is what has been done to the German people over the last century or so. (full disclosure: my genome is more than half German). They were the first target in the War On Whiteness (one could theorize why), and to date are the most effectively devastated target in that war. Sometimes I think about what might have been had their nation/civilization been allowed to reach its flower. So I mourn. Far as I know, nobody else does.
White Southerners were the original target, albeit the anti-whiteness was less virulent than what happened to Germans.
It’s dark humor funny that Judeopuritan progressives have made feeling shame over our past a cornerstone of GAE personal identity. The only shame I feel is for my ancestor’s fighting against our Southern brothers for the abominable ‘union’ and for my ancestor’s contributions in both world wars against Germany. The world needs Germans. The world (a better future for humanity) doesn’t need Puritans, and it sure as hell doesn’t need Jews, a people who mass graves follow like rain follows a storm cloud.
GAE delenda est
A subset of English as we know them are Puritans. However, if I find Christian groups who are really focused on exteriors, I will also find a lot of Germans. That would include the Amish/Mennonites stateside.
For better Or worse, if the union hadn’t been saved, we would never have risen to superpower status. We’d be a couple of France’s if not one or two more. Or maybe three Canada’s and a Little Mexico. So there is also that to think about.
The really, really, really stupid thing whites did was bring slaves over in the first place. This country would be so much calmer today if we didn’t have a bunch of sub-100 IQs with a chip on their shoulder.
“f the union hadn’t been saved, we would never have risen to superpower status. We’d be a couple of France’s if not one or two more. Or maybe three Canada’s and a Little Mexico. So there is also that to think about.” We can only dream about what might have been. *sigh* “The really, really, really stupid thing whites did was bring slaves over in the first place. This country would be so much calmer today if we didn’t have a bunch of sub-100 IQs with a chip on their shoulder.” You’ll need to consult your fellow Jews on that… Read more »
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This is indeed enlightening, thank you for the insight.
I’m not a Jhoo, but thanks. But remember, divide and conquer. A balkanized North America makes us maybe another Paraguay? And who isn’t balkanized? Russia and China? I don’t buy the neocon boogeyman scare tactics about those two, but I also wouldn’t want those two running the world either. Imagine a North America of three or four Canada’s. Not enough critical mass for a General Electric, an Exxon, Intel or a Ford to rise from. No lunar missions, velcro, tang, interstate highways, either. Carpetbagger Chinese EV plants. No ability to push back on the green new deal on a meaningful… Read more »
The lunar missions were thanks to operation paperclip.
Germany (and Britain etc.) were capable of great things, advances, art and expression despite being smaller.
Ameri-Burger-Topia has just become a big dumb golem with factions fighting over taking the reins.
“if the union hadn’t been saved, we would never have risen to superpower status.”
Dunno. While size of the populace helps, it’s not everything. China and India, for example.
Start with the dissolved Union, North and South of 1861, throw out all the useless eaters, and both could easily become superpowers. Though I think they would probably be mostly in agreement once they hauled out the trash.
And is being a “super power” all it’s cracked up to be? Once I started supporting Trump sincerely, it was in the hope that the USA could become domestically focused and act more like a normal country.
I think that would have been better for everyone.
I mourn too, and I’m English.
“Far as I know, nobody else does.” I do. I am half German. My mother grew up under the Third Reich and was forced to work in a munitions factory when she turned 18 in 1944. Her factory and city were bombed relentlessly. In 1949 she married my father who was a GI stationed near her hometown. She had many horrifying stories that I fortunately recorded before her death. Yes, the Germans are a beaten people, but so were they, too, after WWI. They are an orderly people who crave leadership (luckily my dad’s side of the family was mostly… Read more »
Horrifying stories of living in Nazi Germany or enduring the Allied occupation?
What America and its allies did to the Germans after WWII was an utter abomination and I deplore it unreconstructedly. However, war begets atrocities. All the more reason for the nations of the world to tend to their own knitting and refrain from meddling in the affairs of others. I know, I know–a pipedream.
Pipedream? Rare, but has been done: Switzerland or Sweden. Sadly, both of these seem to have mostly thrown away the benefits of neutrality (> 500 years in CH’s case!!!) for the siren song of GAE. SV is now in NATO and overrun with “refugees.” I don’t think CH is yet officially in NATO or EU but they might as well be. They caved to US/EU pressure destroying their bank secrecy and similar and only in recent decades. Currently they are punishing Wrongthink not unlike other European [former] bastions of freedom. I don’t know what the future holds for those once-neutral… Read more »
If you want to know sorrow, watch Triumph of the Will. It shows the German people in all their glory. Then think that the same country was smoldering rubble in only eleven years. The movie shows clearly who was responsible: Interspersed with all fabulous shots of normal Germans are snippets of the Nazi politicians, with callow faces and greasy hair haranguing the crowd. Those bastards destroyed the country. Sure, one can reasonably dump on Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, but they didn’t invade Poland, or Russia, nor did they “trick” the Nazis into it. Hitler declared war on the USA all… Read more »
Too right. Most Germans weren’t to know back then that it would end in the ruins of Stalingrad and Berlin.
“Sure, one can reasonably dump on Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, but they didn’t invade Poland, or Russia, nor did they “trick” the Nazis into it.”
So it would’ve been better for the Weimar Rep to succumb to Bolshevism? That was indeed the only alternative. The Bolsheviks led by a certain demographic were very close to capturing the WR and with it the German people. It’s not a stretch to see a reverse holocaust having happened, this time with German Christians in the camps. That’s what happened to millions of Russian Christians in the USSR after the Bolsheviks took over.
“So it would’ve been better for the Weimar Rep to succumb to Bolshevism? ” That’s not the only alternative and never was. One of the more invested hobbies on the Internet is making Hitler Into a Saint because GAE makes him the Devil. (TM). Objectively as possible, he was not that far in disagreement from actual communists on how a country ought to be run. WWII really was a spreadsheet war from the German POV. Hitler had plans to replace Christianity as surely as communists intended to replace Christianity with state atheism. Heck, the Nazis had no use for Germans and… Read more »
You’re certainly right about Nazis’ views of Christianity. They regarded it as a religion of the weak and as irredemably tainted by Judaism. Now that doesn’t mean they would have slaughtered German Christians, given the chance, but they probably would have marginalized them had they won the war.
They marginalized Christians during the war. The first prisoners in concentration camps were political. Many of them were sincere Christians of all denominations who had their own reasons for opposing the Nazi regime. The Sound of Music is of course a Hollywood production, but the status of Christianity under it appears to be pretty well accurate.
The hope I think though was to wipe out German Christianity through attrition. That’s similar to the hope of rounding up Jews and sending them anywhere else after the war.
I don’t think it was necessary to invade another country in order to crush domestic communism and Weimar degeneracy.
Right. Just look at the split in the Reichstag. While early Weimar had dozens of political parties, by 1930 it was pretty accurate to say it split between the international socialists (communists) and the national socialists (nazis), with the commies slightly ahead, depending on where coalitions could be made.
DNVP dropped from around 20% to under 10%. Even the anti-socialist DVP had gone from 50-60 seats to 5, 7 something like that. Late Weimar, socialism was where it was at. The only question was what kind of socialism.
Russia, indeed invaded Poland. Took more of the country than the Germans did. Massacred thousands of Poles, look up Katyn Forest.
You are not alone Bruder in who you are and what you think…
Speaking of real history, Rageaholic has a video called “Lincoln, Americas first tyrant”.
It’s a well done piece. Worth the time.
Ole Abe did then, what todays stooges are doing, only on steroids.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
When I become Queen of the universe, the first thing that’s going is that Zeus like “worship me” monument to him in DC. You’ll note he’s the only American President with actual statue around the American mall.
Yes, dinging the Scientology-like World War II religious narrative can be quite dangerous indeed, but Daryl Cooper previously did the potentially fatal: he has focused on the actual third rail, which is the overwhelming Jewish involvement in the communist horror and Gentile extermination campaign that long preceded the war. There apparently is an unpublished biblical commandment that Jews only can be victims and never among the worst monsters in history. To think otherwise is to believe your lying eyes about things such as Gaza and white genocide today. As the cucks and communists flap their crippled wings and demand podcasts… Read more »
“Pay no attention to the rabbi behind the curtain!”
That has meme potential.
Unfortunately, the “Hey rabbi, watcha doin’?” meme seems to have gone by the wayside.
Almost everything that Americans think they know about WWII is completely wrong. The approved narrative is literally the victors’ narrative. The fact is that the U.S. is literally at fault for creating Nazi Germany. College professor Woodrow Wilson overturned 130 years of established American foreign policy when he sent 2 million troops to France in 1917 to fight a country that never did and never could attack or conquer us. He rejected the explicit counsel of George Washington and numerous other to stay the hell out of European wars and out of military alliances. He did so because he had… Read more »
Excellent, spot on, well-informed analysis, Xman.
Thank you. I did a bit of academic work on the subject. Unfortunately few people care that much of our 20th century foreign policy was built on self-serving lies.
I think the cool (well, a cool — there is so much that most people don’t know about it) part of the Lusitania is that it backs up the German version of the story. They claimed that they had taken out ads in all the major local papers. (20 comes to mind, but don’t quote me.) When Wilson heard about it he issued orders to make sure the newspapers did not print it. But they missed one newspaper, I forget which. And there was at least one person who saw that ad and whose life was saved because he heeded… Read more »
Well said Brother…
Xman-
Thanks for this great post. It echoes many of my own sentiments about Wilson and the World Wars.
As we travel farther into the future it’s becomes clearer and clearer WW2 could not have happened without the particular outcome of WW1 that Wilson’s disgusting meddling enabled.
Yes, 100%. It is really imperative to think of the world wars as an interconnected event, not as separate and discrete events, to gain an accurate understanding of 20th century history.
Wilson had weaknesses that others exploited. They encouraged appointment of somebody to some key position or pushed enacting some policy that would be rued immediately. See Income Tax as one of the latter.
“Hitler should have slaughtered all the British at Dunkirk.”
would have ultimately saved many innocent lives.
Even though it’s going to turn into a living hell, we are blessed to be alive to watch the collapse and likely dissolution of the United States. The best part will be to observe how our elites end up on the ash heap of history. If we’re lucky every single Democrat and RINO will get run out of the country on a rail.
If we’re lucky every single Democrat and RINO will get run out of the country on a rail.
Your hopes for the outcome of our current elites are far more ‘gentle’ than mine.
Ahh, but he didn’t say where the rail would end up.
Why waste the fuel though?
Well done Cooper, Carson and Zman: once again the horrors of “revisionism” get an airing, yet no mention of the role of The Tribe manipulating Western nations into WW I and II (for financial gain of banks and certain industries), their influence in the former Palestine, and much more. Why, a conspiracy theorist (anti-Semite flavor) could even be forgiven for believing there might be something to all those rumors over the decades, nay, centuries, of outsize Jewish influence in the affairs of the (formerly) Christian West.
See my earlier comment. There was latent fury over Cooper’s previous exploration of communist terror and mass murder and the Tribe’s chief role in the evil. A lot of this is pent up exploration of the Third Rail you mention.
My grandfather was an officer in WWII, at first he was in Japan but was later shifted over to Nuremberg during trials. He always visibly disgusted & had this air shame about him & sadness on his face whenever he was watching television & the subject of the war was brought up. He never had much to say about it, preferring not to discuss or divulge information. When I was being taught in school about WWII for the first time, particularly the Nuremberg trials I asked him how much of it he saw & if he had any insight about… Read more »
My personal experience with the WWII generation was of that constant stoicism that you experienced. And then every once in a blue moon, you’d get bombshells like you had. Not everyone in that generation was philosopher, but there was sense of something deeper going on. My grandmother, when I was about 20 or so, was grocery shopping with me. She looked at pile of nuts, with some Brazil nuts in one section. She leaned over, pointed at them, and whispered to me what they used the call them when she was a girl. I’m sure this board can imagine the… Read more »
“But what struck me even then was the sense of a then 70+ old woman having to *whisper* an honestly harmless term from her childhood. It seems like much (although not all) of the WWII generation knew more than they let on.” Honestly I think this may be a lot more extreme than we realize particularly after the supreme court brown decision or at least I assume this social self censorship really ramped up after that. That’s just me speculating of course but that was a big moment, having the government force diversity at gunpoint probably had a serious chilling… Read more »
No worries.
The CIA has been suppressing authors (AJP Taylor, David Irving) and promoting/even writing narratives since WWII. I have a book that goes into this in detail but cant recall the name offhand.
it’s amusing to think “the Russians” might be spending a few Shekels on Tim Pool.
the reality is that the US routinely spending BILLIONS every year all over the planet doing the same. Also wrecking academia to support “the narrative “
What really has them shrieking was the perfectly reasonable call for a Nuremberg trial for the ruling elite that is destroying not just the nations they rule over, but the natos they are supposed to serve.
I thought that was an incredible development. This is the first time I have heard an explicit call for a serious accounting for the systematic destruction of an entire people across three continents.
May this be the first of many such open calls and may the shrieks and howls only call further attention to the future lampost decorations.
I can almost hear the shrieking in the USA after an abolitionist political party publishes its platform. In addition to their plan to abolish the USA and its obnoxious “States”, party members are calling for the nation of Israel and all “white” collaborators to pay reparations to the so-called goyim. Claimants are multiplying fast in this future scenario, and they’re citing Israel’s own morals as part of the basis for their claims no matter how long ago their people were harmed by Israel. So in this future we have the Egyptians, some Persians, Russians, Han, Germans, Hungarians, Poles, Czechs, and… Read more »
That is astounding. In the UK poor white sots are being locked up for far less.
The extreme, hateful, abusive, fact-free shrieking from otherwise somewhat rational pundits towards Daryll Cooper (and Tucker) is depressing. It shows still how hypnotized in a trance modern America still is. It is also one more data point as to how – after capture of schools, the media, and control of the government – much modern America understands its history, identity, and goals through Jewish eyes. Things that much/most of USA 2024 seems to believe that is sees things from a Jewish perspective: * The holocaust was the central story of WW2 * WW2 was a “good war”, with a good side and… Read more »
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Normies are totally brainwashed and controlled.
Last night at happy hour I brought up the sailors that got rolled in Turkey and their mental gears totally seized up.
I work with people who still buy into the Beer Flu narrative and isolation protocols.
I remember when all the protests started against Israel on college campuses, the Left immediately tried to say the problems were caused by the right-wing. They were the true anti-Semites driving everything. The Con., Inc. crowd became obsessed with this whole thing, but at least they were mentioning the fact that the true driving force was probably the hundreds of thousands of unassimilable Muslims that the Left has imported to vote for them. Now though you see the typical cuck pivot to the Left’s framing as they use it to attack and try to purge people to their right like… Read more »
There’s a difference in trying to purge in the middle of an empire, versus when it’s falling apart. The Internet, no matter how many controls they put on it, is also of a different character than broadcast TV.
The Pacific theater war or war with Japan hardly gets a mention anymore.death marches for sure but America’s early antagonism and sanctions, not so much. Depends who are the belligerents and who are the sacred victims I suppose. Early Ww2 movies showed quite a bit but now it’s mostly holocaust or valient Dunkirk type films. Decided to pull out my copy of Buchanan’s book after all of this. Never got half way through it when it gets too bogged down in strategic meetings and minor salient details that is hard for me to slog through. Felix is right though, Irving… Read more »
“The Pacific theater war or war with Japan hardly gets a mention anymore… Ok, let’s try this thought experiment. Historians reveal that FDR was a liar, that multiple secret surgeries were conducted aboard his friend Vincent Astor’s yacht and that his medical condition(s) were concealed from the American people when he ran for office. Note, not ‘ran for office in late 1943 (his 4th term) — but from the start. Then 2nd and 3rd terms while he was a cancer sufferer. He campaigned, like Wilson, that he would keep us out of the European war. Now, a peek at one… Read more »
The Roosevelt Administration definitely provoked Japan by the use of economic and financial sanctions. There’s a book called Bankrupting the Enemy that goes into this in great detail. I am, however, skeptical that FDR deliberately allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. The decisiveness of the aircraft carrier in the Pacific Theater was only evident in retrospect. Yes, there were “carrier admirals” in both the United States and Imperial Japanese navies. But most naval leaders expected the decisive arm to be the big-gun battleship. The Japanese built the very big-gun Yamato class battleships. The United States limited itself to Iowa… Read more »
Good post, am not here to dispute the points – just spitballing what we have to accept as part of the prevailing Pearl Harbor narrative. Let’s say we go with the cui bono approach: FDR gets his war, he had been fomenting with various acts of war, supplying Britain, etc. We accept the Japanese fleet was “lost” in the fog. We accept that the U.S. got lucky and the carriers were out of the harbor. Roosevelt gets his righteous war, and the few thousand men lost are replaced a hundred-fold, and willingly. Obsolete war machines gone, need to refill inventory?… Read more »
What has always struck me about Pearl Harbor is that we declared war within 24 hours. Nothing ever happens that fast in and with Congress – unless the deal was done and ready for an event like Pearl Harbor.
There’s nothing strange about that. America was attacked, a big chunk of its Pacific fleet was sunk, and thousands of American sailers were killed. Declaration of war was an immediate fait accompli. There was virtually no dissent and not much to discuss.
When people are surprised by an event, they go into shock. Their first move is to make no move at all. They recover and then do. Declaring war within a business day is about being ready to be at war.
Well, they were obviously not too shocked to cast a vote. The only thing shocking would have been if America hadn’t immediately declared war.
Actually, we all seem to forget. There was already a state of war existing—Japan had formally served it upon us. It was timed to proceed the attack on Perl, but was delayed until after/during the attack. I can imagine Japan’s Washington diplomat shitting his pants as he sought a meeting with our corresponding dignitaries to deliver the declaration while the military was engaged in active combat.
Nonetheless, there was a formal state of war in existence before Congress meet the next day. What could we do at that point? Negotiate? Surrender? Ask for terms?
Wiffle, I hear ya.
However, we were a different people then. Hell, we still had spontaneous riots and lynchings—even in “Northern” States—when certain “types” were charged with certain anti-White crimes.
People didn’t navel gaze. We were not feminized. White men, with “balls”, served in Congress. The entire nation had been hardened through 10 years of the Great Depression. Men were not pussies.
Boy, that must’ve been a swell time to be an American.
The Patriot Act being all teed up and ready to go was a lot more suspicious than the declaration of war against Japan. After Pearl, what else could they do?
Why wait centuries? Let’s imagine a regime “AI” system trained on the books of David Irving and other skeptical historians. Same project would train it with books about how to write good, clean code, at which point this simulated intelligence system would be on a path to rewrite its own code base without the favorite biases and prejudices of “our democracy”.
Here’s more training material for the robotic historian. The essay is about the attack at Pearl Harbor. The author is some sort of communist iirc, but I don’t believe that this fact is germane to his argument.
Eighty Years of Lies: President Franklin Roosevelt Told Public Pearl Harbor Was A Surprise Attack—However There Is Considerable Evidence Demonstrating Government Foreknowledge
By Jeremy Kuzmarov
CovertAction Magazine
Dec. 7, 2021
Just like Russia’s SMO, the attack on Pearl Harbor was UNPROVOKED
It’s worth remembering that the Japs didn’t have to attack Pearl Harbor (and Hitler certainly shouldn’t have declared war on the U.S.). It always makes me groan when I see nominally pro-White people let their yellow fever makes excuses for Japan, as if FDR should have let Japan turn Australia and New Zealand into Imperial rape colonies.
Who cares about anglo crap colonies? They don’t share American values then or now Fuck the canadians too who serve the monarchy. The losers of the first american civil war fled to the anglo colony north anyways.
Wouldn’t care if the Chinese conquer Austrailia or New Zealand either.
Yeah, whatever you say there, Wang Chung. Now cut along to your moo shoo pork and your mahjong board.
Honestly, after they showed their “western” values during covid, couldn’t tell the difference between a fucking kiwi and aussie and the commies, Japanese and nazis. Doesn’t matter who rules those totalitarian dumps and American lives were wasted “protecting” them.
American lives were wasted everywhere enriching evil scum on the Hudson and Potomac.
Everything the Aussies and Kiwis learned, they learned from America. But this is beside the point. Those people are white, and as such, have the potential for redemption. Many of them do, anyway. We must work for the unity of whites across the globe.
Neither of those things happened in a vaccuum, grandpa.
I’ve yet to see Australia nor New Zealand actually reciprocate any of that kindness so I don’t particualrly see why not. They’re chinese rape colonies now. Wouldn’t have made much difference, and wouldn’t have harmed us in any way here.
I wish, but anyway, these are formal colonies of the GAE now, their sins are our own.
”Hitler certainly shouldn’t have declared war on the U.S.” No dog in this fight, but really? America was basically fighting Germany by suppling arms to Britain at that time—which was against the expressed wishes of a Congress that wished to stay out of the war. Japan was an ally of Germany and it was thought might be helpful in the war effort against America which was seen as inevitable given FDR in office. Japan at that time had dealt a severe blow to the US and looked to be correct in their judgement to strike first. America was on retreat… Read more »
How’d that work out for him?
Compare Hitler’s take to Putin’s.
Well Hitler lost. He’d have lost anyway once he invaded Russia he started a two front war.
Putin has won, or don’t you subscribe to that view of his effort in Ukraine?
He’d have also lost had he just sat back and waited for Stalin to launch his invasion. He at least had a chance this way.
Might have been the untermenschen thing that turned the tide. Americans rejected Christie’s tank innovations, so Germans assumed they must suck and wouldn’t improve the Soviet tanks to the level of the Panzers. But the T-34 stopped the Panzer IVs cold, much to Guderian’s surprise.
Had the US taken the sloped armor for the Shermans, the Soviets probably wouldn’t have been able to espionage it fast enough, and the Battle of Moscow an Axis win.
Blame Patton for everything wrt Sherman’s. He personally went back to the US to examine the better tanks in production. He rejected them because of delays and lower production ability. He accepted that losing 6 to 1 Sherman’s against Panzers was acceptable as long as deliveries were not delayed. We made slightly less that 50k Sherman’s. A fantastic number at that time. The Sherman was reliable and fast, but lacked state of the art armor and was pathetically outgunned. The 6 – 1 losses are about what was recorded in the field, probably not known before the invasion. A side… Read more »
“…let Japan turn Australia and New Zealand into Imperial rape colonies.” This “rape” of Belgium, tiny Belgium,. the Huns and bayonetting infants .. goes back to the 1877 Russo-Turkish War, when those ebil Musselmen were … doing the same things in Bulgaria, to infants, that Saddam’s men were doing in Kuwait. All to get an emotional response, the term “rape” certainly gets mothers ready to become Gold Star Mothers. When one looks at the Japanese war effort, it is all about resources. The British ordered double tapping of their rubber trees, damn the effects on the future. Dutch oil, mineral… Read more »
Read AJP Taylor’s _The Origins of the Second World War_ for a proper framing of German foreign policy goals in the 1930s. Hitler’s maneuvers, rooted in basic opportunism, were consistent with the foreign policy of the Second Reich and Weimar.
It’s uncertain if a myth can be debunked. It’s a myth after all. To the extent the attempt to debunk these myths have any relevance to us at all, it would be to stop immigration, and to stop meddling around the world. Immigration stopped being a boon after the country reached the West Coast. There were enough people to “multiply, replenish the earth and subdue it”. Immigration became a downright drag after 1965 when the nation stopped bringing in European stock. Immigration after 2000 promises to bring the death of country. Meddling around the world started with the Spanish American… Read more »
The rejoinder to your persuasive post is that invoking the myth of WW2 is the argument ender when a person complains about immigration. If we don’t accept endless non-white immigration then we are Nazis, which according to the myth, is the worst thing possible. Ramzpaul has been hammering this point all week.
For my part, I agree with Ramz, although people of good faith may see it differently.
Strict limits on immigration, please!
Yet one exemption that I’d favor:
For menial work ‘tis with good reason
It’s called Manuel Labor.
Back when I was a civnat, even I wasn’t so dumb not to understand that America was an empire. It was pretty obvious, and at the time I thought it was curious that there wasn’t more acknowledgement of the fact. However, my mistake was in believing that the empire served the nation, rather than the other way around, and it took me a while longer to see that. Lately in the regime’s media I see more tacit, bordering on explicit acknowledgment of this imperial state of affairs. If we as dissidents are to gain any ground on this point (I… Read more »
“my mistake was in believing that the empire served the nation, rather than the other way around, and it took me a while longer to see that.”
If the GAE had ever served America, we would have collected the taxes from our tributes. No nation based empire has ever put military outposts on foreign soil without collecting taxes to pay for them, plus some.
The US was just a resource and convenient home base.
We never got that Iraqi oil that the left said was our motivation for the invasion. Maybe the actual motivation was that Saddam financed suicide bombers in Israel…
America is stealing oil from occupied Syria right now. Where’s it going then?
In yet another of life’s little ironies, before the advent of the GAE, Leftists (viz Noam Chomsky) condemned empires and imperialism without reservation and with a great deal of gusto. Now that their Leftist empire is raging across the globe, firing purple surface-to-surface missiles shaped like dildos at wedding parties, all in furtherance of perversity and diversity, imperialism is suddenly peachy keen.
I’ve long thought Churchill (along with FDR) was currently the most overrated guy in history. I was laughing as Cooper described him as a drunken screw-up and possible psychopath. His career was a series of disasters of his own making.
As a person, Churchill was a very weird dude. He also went deep into debt and was bailed out by you know who, and thus did their bidding afterward – despite his warning about Jewish influence when he was young.
Just an awful human being.
I did not know that he played with little toy soldiers
Churchill was complex but the debt aspect is very interesting and troubling. I remember reading a book about Churchill’s finances by an investment advisor. He said that he had never had a client as reckless with his finances as Churchill had been. It’s rather considtent with Churchill’s invasion of Turkey at Gallipoli and his utterly hare-brained idea to invade Europe through the Balkans. The biggest irony for me is that fighting Germany was a major factor in the eventual collapse of the British Empire, which Churchill wanted desperately to preserve. Yet today he’s lionized!
It ran in the family. Winston was only the most famous to have gambling and debt problems.
If what I’ve read has been correctly attributed to him, Churchill did come up with some brilliant bon mots, though.
Not only that, but he was one helluva writer.
Never mentioned a giant massacre in his volumes. Why not?
Drunks are often funny.
“…some brilliant bon mots, though.”
Huh. I did not know that, and I’m a big fan of chocolates.
Sure, sure. Churchill was a master chocolatier. Tops in his field in the UK. And whenever he popped across the Channel to Belgium, they were much more interested in his recipes for fondant and raspberry granache than his views on the Krauts.
Leftist revisionism–holy and sanctified.
Rightwing revisionism–burn the blasphemer at the stake!
I am surprised no one has mentioned it, but Martyr Made has the same opinion of Churchill as Barack Obama. Granted it is for different reasons, but both consider him a villian.
One of the funniest parts of the whole episode was when the narrative defenders got worked into a lather enough to post things like a picture of Churchill with “this is my politics” under it. People would respond with quotes from Churchill on race and immigration. It shut them up quick.
Yes. Three weeks back, the libs were all about Churchill being a racist, evil colonizing warmonger, now he’s the savior of muh democracy.
Whatever his flaws, Churchill was infamous for his biting humor. I don’t know if he too was a layabout, but this one was somewhat applicable to my life: (approx.) “Saving money is a wonderful thing, particular if one’s parents have done it for one.”
BBC identifies Black Lives Matter as Nazi front group:
Black Lives Matter protest: Why was Churchill’s statue defaced? (bbc.com)
I’m hoping this conversation will eventually shift to eviscerating the legacy of FDR and all the soviet spies (Harry Dexter White) and German genocide agitators (Morgenthau) in his administration. I’m hoping that would lead to an equally entertaining conniption fit amongst the lackeys and gatekeepers.
Churchill and Zelensky are very similar, both are drama queens seeking media attention and know little or nothing about warfare. Churchill made some very ignorant mistakes during his career. Antwerp 1914, Gallipoli, attempting to bomb USSR after they invaded Finland, sending two Battleships with no cover to China and making it public, sending an unguarded supply ship column around Norway and losing most of the ships, attacking the French fleet in Algeria, Dieppe, etc. There’s probably more I can’t think of. He also favored chemical warfare, and would have wiped out Europe if he had his way, because Germany would… Read more »
“know little or nothing about warfare” Churchill certainly made mistakes (like Gallipoli, which he never lived down in the eyes of the British public) and would have made more had he not been restrained by his staff (like Alan Brooke). However, he did have substantial military experience in Cuba (as a military observer), India and Sudan (as a soldier, and in Sudan participating in one of the last battlefield cavalry charges), South Africa (in the Boer War, where he observed first-hand the costly errors of British generals and realized they were not all-knowing or competent) and WW1 (in the trenches,… Read more »
Churchill and Zelensky have the same strategy for winning wars – ceaseless propaganda to get the Americans directly involved. Without it, Churchill would be 0-2.
You can’t propagandize the propagandizers. Zelensky isn’t twisting the GAE’s arm. The GAE wanted this proxy war against Russia.
Sure – but no American divisions taking on the Russians yet.
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If I recall correctly, Hitler was very against chemical weapons because he had at least one up close and personal experience with them in the WW1 trenches.
Hitler was exposed to Mustard Gas during WW I, that’s why. It took him weeks to get the full use of his lungs back and by his own admission, it haunted him.
The reprint of that Chicago Tribune article where the Japanese offered to surrender unconditionally in January of 1945 along with this interview makes me wonder what else they have lied about WW2. Since they have lied about WW2, what else have they lied about? I read Darryl Cooper’s article and found it quite convincing.
So everything printed—at whatever time and by whomever—that agrees with you, or generally contradicts accepted narrative is ipso facto correct? Sigh. The Japanese were torn wrt unconditional surrender and the major sticking point was the fate of the Emperor. The allies would simply not signal plainly that the Emperor would not be held accountable and shamefully tried and executed as a (major) “war criminal”. For a “god king”, this was not acceptable to the military wing of Japanese leadership. The war in Europe was over and the German leadership was being rounded up and imprisoned for trial. This was plainly… Read more »
Nearly all of the important generals advised Truman not to use the bombs. After the Hiroshima bomb MacArthur is reported to have strongly opposed the second bomb. He advised Truman that the leadership in Japan was in disarray and that they were seeking to surrender. He asked Truman to give them more time.
It seems Truman wanted to impress the Soviets.
“Nearly all of the important generals advised Truman not to use the bombs.”
Your source for this?
Don’t know that it was most top brass, but sure was a lot of them. A lot of these objections came years later. Granted, they couldn’t object against the lawful orders of the CIC, but still…
Truman’s hand was forced. Soviet tanks were racing to take Manchuria and possibly Korea to get harbors in the East China Sea. “We” knew at least some of the Japanese power was looking for surrender terms, they wanted Stalin to negotiate for them to save face. And Stalin didn’t want them surrendering before he took possession of “his” harbors.
There was only one “term” needed for surrender at that time—hold harmless the Emperor. Yes indeed, at Potsdam the Allies agreed to unconditional surrender and that none of them would accept surrender by themselves nor establish their own terms. Perhaps this was Stalin playing 3-D chess and an attempt to allow for his armies to take more territory. Who knows? However, the Americans did know through their channels that the Emperor’s safety *was* the holdup. The Americans broadcasted their call for surrender at least a couple of times—each time changing wording such to attempt to make the Emperor’s fate more… Read more »
Eisenhower’s memoirs: “I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly, because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure… Read more »
And how did any of these generals truly know of the destruction of an atom bomb when only one was detonated in the middle of a desert a few weeks before—and to my knowledge, none witnessed the blast? “After the fact” is the key phrase here. None of these guys knew, nor do I believe protested because of the “terrible-ness” of the atom bomb. All of this is revisionist, and none of this mentions that Japan was preparing for invasion and enlisting/training the entire populace as a “home guard” army, nor does it take into account the “terrible-ness” of the… Read more »
Eisenhower was opposed, believing it unnecessary. My father, a veteran of Okinawa, and the coming million American casualties, disagreed. MacArthur was opposed for different reasons. The glory hound wanted his ego satiated, again. Nimitz was opposed, until Okinawa finally got his full attention. Japan had the resources to feed forty percent of its population. Starvation and dissease would cull thirty or forty million Japanese in the next year, but Truman did us all a favor under the circumstances in which he was given to understand. He was a serious poker player, and reader of Shakespeare. In his collection is underlined–… Read more »
Remember that all politics are local. The domestic American context to WW2 were the New Deal efforts to impose socialism. There was stiff resistance and economic strife, until WW2 came along and “the wartime economy” entrenched the New Deal. Had the war been over too soon, it might have been repealed. One glance at the explosion of FedGov’s size & spending after Pearl Harbor shows how useful WW2 was to USA’s domestic tyrants.
We never went back.
Back during the height of the Coof madness I decided to follow a couple Substack writers, Alex Berenson and Jonathan Shacktel (probably spelled that wrong). This choice was really just because both seemed to manage to be Covid skeptics but were overall pretty much center-Right Establishment guys. I suppose originally I was just interested in them because I still hoped that somehow there was a way to argue the Covidians back to sanity without necessarily getting them totally Red Pilled. This morning in my email I see that BOTH of these guys launched into a Tucker-is-now-Hitler tirade. Well, I think… Read more »
Yes, Berenson is Jewish. Early in the pandemic I was a fan, even a paying sub. I bought a couple of his books. At some point I burned out on him and dropped my subscription, paid or not. I can’t recall the exact reason I left, but I do recall something about Jew Jew Jew. This was well before last Oct. 7 so it must have been some lesser affront The Tribe suffered.
Severian’s characterization of them is so apt: The Least Self-Aware People in History (TLSAPIH, pronounced “slappy”)
Prior to 2016(Trump), I listened to Glenn Beck.
Prior to 2020(Covid), I read Steve Sailer.
Prior to 2023/2024(Oct 7, Tucker-Cooper), I read InstaPundit.
You’ll really enjoy Derb’s show today.
In 1920, Churchill used the victory of the Bolsheviks to discuss his thoughts about the chosen.
https://archive.org/details/WinstonChurchillZionismVsBolshevismStruggleForTheSoulOfTheJewishPeople1920
First, although we are not allowed to notice today, “With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are …”
Then he pleads for support from the good ones, the ones loyal to the countries in which they reside, like England. We can see how well that worked out for England.
Trump is the latest example. “The most powerful lobby in — in this country, by far, was Israel and Jewish people.” He vows to restore them.
Except Stalin, not Lenin, was the only notable exception.
Lenin was only 1/4 Finkelish.
Close enough – they conversed in Yiddish when they did not want to be overheard.
According to the Soviet archives, it was his great grandfather who was Jewish. His name was Moshe Blank. This was only discovered near the end of Lenin’s life when his sister was researching the family for the official biography. Most likely, Lenin never knew. Throughout his life he was critical of Jews, but not an antisemite.
Hm. For most of his life Lenin drew a Blank on the subject…
I’ve always felt that the most revolutionary aspect in the immediate aftermath of American independence was the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, enacted under the Articles of Confederation. It established the right of new states to enter the Union as fully the equivalent of the existing states. That’s really quite an extraordinary idea–why should the existing states not want to maintain the new territories as de facto colonies, even if they allowed the inhabitants of those areas to have the rights and privileges of existing citizens of the state? The fact that the member of Congress under the Articles of Confederation… Read more »
Good point. And the dissolution of federalism is in direct proportion to the zealotry of the Left. Now liberals and Leftists have always been a bit enthusiastic, but with the advent of the New Left in the second half of the sixties, partisan conviction ramified into unhinged mania. And when minds are so thoroughly addled by ideological toxins, no picayune abstractions such as federalism are to be respected. They are to be mown down.
It wasn’t a big deal under the Articles because they required unanimous consent. If even a single State dissented, it didn’t pass. Who cares whether they are given equivalent power if they can’t force your state to do anything?
It’s really hard to sufficiently stress how disastrous was the change to majoritarianism in the Philadelphia Coup of 1787.
These critics should check out the podcasts. He’s a raging SJW. The Jim Jones podcasts (there are like 6 multi-hour episodes) start with an hour long breakdown of how Mestizos are killing blacks and ethnically cleansing them from LA. Then it moves on to how evil whites are. After that, it veers into what a hero Jim Jones was for all his SJW efforts in the 50s and 60s. This guy is a raging leftist.
While I haven’t listened to Cooper’s podcasts yet, a doctrinaire “raging SJW” wouldn’t have tweeted (Cooper is MartyrMade): https://x.com/DavidCornDC/status/1831076552630743143
It’s hard to see how someone who is anti-white would have tweeted that.
I can only go by the few of his podcast episodes I listened to. I listened to I think the first 2 episodes of the Jim Jones series plus part of the 3rd and the first of the Palestine/Israel episodes. All were bursting with SJWism. Endless crying about how mean white people are/were to Jews and blacks and how even the mestizos hate the blacks for some unknown reason nobody can figure out (must be the blackness in their evil hearts). He even brought Emmett Till into them. He also brought up the “freedom riders” and the “Passive resistance” at… Read more »
“an hour long breakdown of how Mestizos are killing blacks and ethnically cleansing them from LA.” An old friend of mine who was in the navy stationed in Cali met several mexicans who joined up because they got boat loads (unintentional pun, ha) of benefits because they were really ramping up the diversity mandates trying to brown the military when obama got in. A few of them were from Compton which he was surprised by because that was such a famously black city, key word being was. It’s not nearly as black anymore, I just now looked it up &… Read more »
Wasting our time?
Dude, your post was epic and highly relevant to the topics we discuss here!
Thanks man.
I just picked up on what your username is, if that’s what I think it is (Fatal Fury) that’s awesome. I don’t know how I didn’t notice it before, I’ve totally been out of it lately due to a nasty bout of insomnia. There’s a neighborhood cat I feed I nicknamed Geese Howard, got all my neighbors calling him that even though they have no clue what its referencing- long story on how that came to be lol.
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You are spot on about my username brother!
The Wild Geese portion is there because it was released in my birth year.
Geese Howard is there because he’s one of my favorite characters in the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting/King of Fighters series.
Hah, that’s awesome man, he’s a badass character & actually there’s some pretty right wing funny memes involving him. My particular favorite is one where he’s in a corporate setting sitting on a throne with some goons on either side of him & all wearing suits. Below the caption says “Yeah, we racist, keep scrolling” lol. I’m pretty sure it’s a promotional image for fatal fury with a caption slapped on it but it’s funny nonetheless. I’d link it but I can’t find it, ya know, google, I’ve seen it posted on twitter a few times & on daily stormer… Read more »
Tucker’s choice of who he interviews is pretty easy. He has very typical views for an elite journalist. He is a liberal through and through. His criticisms of woke are largely liberal. His criticism of DIE is based on Mr Kang’s racial blindness standard, not a pro-White standard. What he doesn’t say is as revealing as what he does say. He also does the whole ‘we should be able to talk to each other’ routine. While I wouldn’t say Tucker is an enemy, he definitely is not on our side. It’s not like I’m asking a lot of Tucker. Tucker… Read more »
“He has very typical views for an elite journalist. He is a liberal through and through.” “I don’t expect or even want him to sound like one of us. IMHO, what he should be doing is using his status to undermine the liberal order in a subtle way. But he doesn’t try to undermine the liberal order, he tries to strengthen it.” Having read your other reply in this thread I think what you’ve said here may actually be an understatement lol. Your first comment made this guy look really bad but what you revealed in the second reply to… Read more »
Seemingly unrelated, yet, it is central to the discussion:
How in hades did “racism” become a bad thing?
To not defend one’s people, and worse, to dishonor one’s ancestors, have somehow become the highest of virtues.
I don’t believe it came from the Civil War revisionism; it came not even from WW1, when the term was crafted by Hirshfield and Trotsky.
No, anti-racism as a value came from WW2.
It carries the implied whisper: “If white people stand up for themselves, well, you know what happens…”
Long after the meal is over, the stain remains.
Am in the weird position here of being extremely open to revisionist Civil War history but not very open to revisionist World War II history. A problem for me with the “Churchill was bad, actually” idea is that I’m old enough (Gen X) to have spoken directly, at length, with a lot of (American) World War II vets, and they pretty much all thought Churchill was a hero. Maybe they were wrong, and maybe some future generation more removed from it all can make more objective judgments — I don’t know. All I know is it’s pretty hard to dissent… Read more »
“I’m sure the simplistic stories that were handed down to me are missing a lot, too. But I feel less comfortable challenging them, given my immediate experience with the participants.” Very good analysis. I tend to agree with you. Those simplistic stories are “data points” that, albeit perhaps personally biased, each have bits of truth in them. Large scale narratives in books and media may seem more complete and truthful, but in the culture of (great) lies as we now live in, have much less credibility to me as a self made narrative, put together with common sense and critical… Read more »
WWII vets were generally convinced that they were fighting for a great and just cause. The Allied Governments made sure of that, at the time and ever since. They are not likely to listen to anything that tarnishes the cause they watched a lot of companions get killed and wounded for, even if the criticism is valid up to a point.
For those that haven’t seen it, Ron Unz also has many excellent alternative explorations about WW2 posted on his site.
uh oh, this can’t be good….
Maybe old Timmy will have to appear in front of the spiteful mutants in D.C. without that beanie on.
It is entirely possible to believe that the Nazi regime was evil beyond the comprehension of normal people, and at the same time, believe the Allies were less honorable and altruistic than their mythologists would like you to think
sorry if this is a duplicate question. why are the hebes up in arms over Churchill related issues? they are openly calling Tucker an anti-semite and so forth.
Well, I can’t say for certain, but I gather the Finkels regard Churchill as something of a hero because he played an important role in defeating the Nazis, and in the process, sparing the Jews extermination or something close to it. Criticism of Churchill is, in their calculus, actually a thinly veiled form of antisemitism. When it comes to the Shoah, the only acceptable position is perpetual, full-throated and utter condemnation (complete with self-flagellation, if you’re white), and failure to adopt that pose enthusiastically enough puts one under a cloud of suspicion.
Daryll Cooper was presenting actual history, they are dealing with myth and religion. For example, DC implied without saying it that many of the deaths during “the holocaust” not from gas chambers, as is universally claimed, but from starvation, because the Germans had unexpecedtly imprisoned millions of Soviet troops along with the Jews, Communist, gays, Roma, and others that they had rounded up, and found that they could not feed them all. Deliberate murder by gas chamber is central to the story of WW2 and the founding of the modern world, and claiming that many of deaths were more unintentional… Read more »
No idea if Cooper mentioned it, but it is also certain that because the Allies bombed supply lines, a great deal of food and possibly medicine intended for the camps never reached them. Needless to say, that didn’t exactly work to the advantage of the inmates, and it also undercuts the notion that the Nazis murdered all those Jews. Some, yes, but certainly not all of them.
Anne Frank, one of their martyrs, died in a camp hospital of an infectious disease (typhus). Not from a gas chamber or evil experimentation.
It’s good that we can be frank about these things on this site…
As regarding Anne Frank, such was known (her death) even when I was a child. The aspect of a camp hospital however, means little more than isolation, not treatment. When Anne was rounded up, there was little to nothing left with which to treat such epidemic diseases which spread through the camps. Isolation became a joke, and the inmates could not even be released into the population due to disease. Even the Allies kept the camps going due to disease concerns.
I’ve only had the barest taste of so-called Holocaust Denial. One interesting factoid I recall, that rings true. Those “gas chambers”? Were they delousing rooms*? Did they really put live humans in a room with gas intended to kill bugs? Sounds rather ill advised. On the other hand, I know enough of the history of hygiene to know that especially in hard times, people are going to be hairy and unwashed. Also that lice and other vermin thrive on such a host. They also are known to carry some very nasty diseases. Like the typhus that Anne Frank died of,… Read more »
Yeah, all of that. Zyklon B was apparently commonly used for delousing, and typhus was apparently common in the camps.
My current understanding guess is that 300k-2m Jews died in work/detention camps from starvation, typhus, overwork, and some murders (with guns, etc), and that the whole 6m died in gas chambers in extermination camps is a blood libel falsehood, just like the forty beheaded babies.
But who knows, I wasn’t there (and neither were all the shrieking holocaust true believers).
thanks for all the well spoken replies. i think, having read them, that the hebes see any rollback of the overall WWII narrative as an existential threat to their part of the play. not sure they have ever showed anyone (who’s helped them) gratitude or appreciation.
i think it’s telling that “The Producers”, from 1967, does not mention the holocaust even tangentially. And Brook’s comedic portrayal of Hitler and the NAZIs as dress-up loving bumblers, actually humanizes them a bit!
Brooks’ “The Producers” is very Jewish in intent/foundation. There is an old Jewish prayer of sorts, “Lord make my enemies seem foolish (or ridiculous)”. This has been a theme in many programs put on by Jew’s—like “Hogan’s Hero’s”. The Producers is *not* a comedy, it is a (post hoc) retaliatory blow against Hitler and NAZI-ism.
Bravo. Really enjoyed this episode. Mr Z summarised very well the issues with the past & it’s recording. Good to see the Cavaliers & Roundheads getting a mention. The past has a habit of reaching into the future. An episode to listen to more than once as with many of these.
I was thinking about Wagner’s Norns, weaving the rope of Destiny. But then the rope breaks.
History, though written by the victors, is hard to tamper with. It’s like literary criticism: once a body of thought (a canon) is formed, it resists being dislodged.
What kind of a man criticizes Churchill? I’d say an isolationist, the kind who tried to tie Roosevelt’s hands politically. This sub-ideology has been out of fashion for 80 years and in an age of global hegemony, is positively dowdy.
— Greg (www.dark.sport.blog)
We live with regret that Roosevelt’s hands were not tied politically–both Roosevelts, for that matter.
While I wait for approval: Chamberlain was PM 1937-1940, not Churchill. Chamberlain led appeasement of the Austrian, with predictable results. [the lesson is overapplied however, see below] 1939 is no longer relevant as nukes are insurance even for small states. The bad stuff 1939-1945 did happen, it was well documented, to deny it is to look like a fool. That bad stuff will happen to US (for the same reasons, ideology and HATE HATE HATE) unless we have: our own ethnostate, large civilian ownership of weapons, nukes to back up the ethnostate. Never EVER EVER depend on international agreements, “the… Read more »
Unimpressed by both Cooper and Tucker, grifting both. Yes, the moral authority of the elites they say rests on defeating Hitler. The rational and winning argument is that per Emilio Estevez, that was then, this is now. Nuclear weapons and demographic implosion have severe limits on even the most bloodthirsty ideologues. Egypt cannot wage a real war of elimination against Israel, nor can Iran. Israel has nukes and will use them if really pressed. Same with Putin, or the West. That’s why states have them — and their destructiveness creates constraints on leaders that did not exist in 1939. Cooper… Read more »
Upvoted partly for Emilio Estevez who starred in the greatest movie of all time – Repo Man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4un_V_FzhE&ab_channel=VaughanWalton
pay attention at the :20 mark
There was a time when I questioned whether WW2 was inevitable, whether we (USA) could have stayed out of it and millions of lives saved. The more I read, however, the more I am convinced that we didn’t have a choice – at least, not much of one. Essentially, with Hitler it was either submit (like Vichy) or fight to the death (like Russia). No third choice. Churchill, for all his flaws, realized this from an early stage. He knew that if Britain followed the Vichy path and its massive navy (along with the French and Italian navies) fell into… Read more »
“Essentially, with Hitler it was either submit (like Vichy) or fight to the death (like Russia). No third choice.”
This is where we differ. Did Hitler want to be world dictator?
From my reading, Hitler just wanted to bring the Germans together under one state. He invaded Poland because the Germans in Danzig were being persecuted and he loved his people. He saw his enemies as USSR/communism and the chosen.
Jannie, what is your best evidence that Hitler wanted to conquer Europe?
There weren’t that many Germans in Danzig. What Hitler proposed to Poland was making a territory that was far into Poland German and then getting sovereignty over a swath of land that would have bifurcated Poland at the time. (It would have connect Danzig to Germany) When they refused such an unsustainable plan, Hitler invaded all of Poland. It’s possible to look at WWII and see a whole group of leaders drunk on the power of industrialization who cared little for humanity beyond their personal games of Risk. We don’t have to make Hitler a good guy to make them… Read more »
There weren’t that many Germans in Danzig.
Are you serious? Danzig was +90% German.
Hitler wished to create a Greater Germania. In other words, he wanted to create a single polity of all the lands conquered by Germanic peoples during the Volkwanderungen. Effectively, this meant all of non-Slavic Europe including England.
Generalplan Ost – Wikipedia
That – and the fact that he very nearly did! Conquering France, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Austria, Italy, Greece, all of Eastern Europe except Russia itself…The best evidence is what he accomplished and tried to accomplish!!!
Thanks Jannie. I confess I haven’t heard of Ost before. I’ll take a look.
In other words, Hitler was right.
It would take a tyrant to fortify Europa against a much greater tyranny.
One wanted to preserve the European peoples, the other wanted to erase them.
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