Narrative Doubt

An often-ignored lesson of the Roman Empire is that exhausted institutions can stagger on for a long time on inertia. As long as there is nothing ready or able to replace it, the thing can carry on like a shuffling zombie. The Crisis of the Third Century should have collapsed the Roman Empire, but there was nothing around to replace it, so it could finally right itself enough to stagger on for another two centuries. Even a terrible imperial order was better than no order at all.

The same can be said for American conservatism. It has been dead as an intellectual endeavor for a long time, but it staggers on, trying to play the role for which it evolved in the latter quarter of the twentieth century. The audience for its content is limited to the nursing homes and retirement villages of America. Even in Washington, where it has functioned as a usefully idiotic opposition to the people we call the left, it has fallen on hard times. Conservative Inc. no longer has a raison d’etre.

Superficially, the decline of American conservatism is a remarkable thing, given its status at the turn of the century. Despite the Clinton years, conservatism still seemed to be driving the conversation in Washington. The failure of the first two years of the Clinton administration looked like proof that America was a conservative country and Conservative Inc represented the center of American politics. Today it is a terminal patient living out its last days as relatives look at their watches.

A level below the surface, there is the claim made by the people we still call the left that conservatism lost its reason to exist at the end of the Cold War. The argument they made back then was that Conservative Inc primarily existed as an opposition to communism, at home and abroad. The death of the Soviet Union meant conservatism no longer had an enemy. It was the dog that caught the car. Unless it could find a new purpose, it was following communism into the dustbin of history.

At the time this seemed true enough, but as we know conservatism easily found new bogey men abroad and the people we call the left were happy to produce new sticks for conservatives to chase domestically. We got the war on terror, the police state, and the old bogeyman of racism. What the fall of communism did was remove the veil of ignorance so we could see the true purpose of conservatism. It was the usefully idiotic opposition to the prevailing orthodoxy.

The trouble is conservatism was too good at the role of easily beatable opponent, which is why Donald Trump rose to power in 2016. It turns out that they got so good at being an easily beatable opponent that a flippant real estate mogul and reality television star was able to steamroll through the party’s A-list candidates and did so in a way that discredited the institution they represented. Conservatism was a house of cards and Trump was able to huff and puff and blow that house down.

While it is true that American conservatism is dead as an intellectual and organizational force, it still maintains its institutions and access to billions in donations. The reason for that is nothing has come along to replace it. There are efforts underway to fill that role either as willing punching bag or loyal opposition, but so far Conservative Inc. has kept a firm grip on the money spigot. As long as they have access to billions, they can play the political version of Blanche DuBois for as long as they like.

Nothing lasts forever and you get a sense of it in this post from one of the minor zombies shuffling about the cobwebbed halls of Conservative Inc. It is a version of the point-and-shriek we got from the usual suspects when Tucker Carlson had Darryl Cooper on to talk about historical narratives. We get the ritualized emotivism these guys always put at the top of their posts to let their masters know they are not going to be any trouble and then it is the standard attack on Candace Owens.

What the post reveals is that these people do not see what is coming next. The reason Tucker had Cooper on his show was not to make the case for why Churchill was a villain, but to open the conversation about the official narrative of the Second World War and by extension the American century. In other words, the point was not to provide an alternative history or answer reasonable questions about important events of the official narrative, but to legitimize questioning of it.

The official orthodoxy of this moment rests on the official narrative of the twentieth century and America’s role in it. It is what permits the toppling of statues and the desecration of graves. The narrative of the American century has allowed for a rewriting of the American story in such a way that it not only justifies the official morality of this age but forbids the questioning if it. Once people start questioning the story, it is not long until they question the point of the story.

Candace Owens is not an intellectual or even a serious political actor, but she is enormously popular with the sorts of people who used to follow the lead of conservative stars and who want to believe they are standing on the moral high ground. People like Candace Owens not only validate their oppositions to the fruits of the official narrative, but she also makes them feel good about questioning the narrative itself. Questioning the official narrative strikes at the cultural heart of the regime.

The writer of that post does not understand any of this because he lacks the intellect and the necessary curiosity. The reason conservatism got so good at being an easily beatable opponent is they selected for the type of people who enjoy being on the losing end of every fight. Critical to the slave morality of conservatism is a blinkered shortsightedness focused only on the immediate goal of currying favor with the master, or at least gaining her sympathy.

Like the Roman Empire, conservatism staggers on, mostly on the fumes of past glory, but the signs of collapse are showing. In the third century, it was the slow decentralization of power that foreshadowed the end of empire. In this age, it is the slow awakening from the myth of the twentieth century that foreshadows not only the end of conservatism but the end of the regime itself. That is the thing about collapse. The master does not see it coming, but neither do the slaves.


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Arthur Metcalf
Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

I was in a local library about two weeks ago. I overheard an elderly man — well, older man; I couldn’t see him yet — asking the librarian for a private space for a “meeting I want to have.” He had the voice of a confident still-somewhat healthy 70something. I heard her lead him to a table, which he didn’t like, and then to another, which he did. As they went from one table to the other, they passed by, and I saw and recognized him from my youth — well, my 20s. Local businessman, Izod Polo shirt, TopSiders, half-moon… Read more »

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

If there is any justice at all, a pack of Cholos will visit that bastard one night.

RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

As things get hotter, people like this might find themselves dying in a moment of explicit terror as karmic retribution.

Spingerah
Spingerah
Reply to  RealityRules
5 days ago

A small matter taken care of from your things to do list.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

A read hard-case to his fellow whites trying to make it in America, and an enabler of the erasure of those self-same whites. He sounds like a real cutie-pie, alright. Poetic justice would be that Ecuadorean introducing Terwilliger to his maker.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Interesting

also interesting is the use of the present tense. Mr Updike had far more influence on popular modes of writing than he ever gets credit for.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Sadly, Churchians just like that come in all ages. I joke about it being a mind-virus, but it sure acts like one. Once some denomination (any, really, but very prominent in Jewish. Lutheran, Methodist, Catholic, (including Eastern), Anglican, Pentecostal, etc., and maybe especially atheist) get that asylum bone in their maw, they can’t let it go.

The only partial solution is for the uninfected to self quarantine into various traditional subsects. The final solution is probably going to take some cleansing fire or something.

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KGB
KGB
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

It would appear that what many of them found most appealing in the gospels was Jesus’s forgiveness of his tormentors and executioners. They find something very masochistically stimulating about it. Thus, they seek out fights to lose so that they may be noble in defeat. With regards to immigrants, it’s penance for belonging to a superior race. They can’t stop from making amends.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  KGB
5 days ago

Never thought of it that way, but you’ve made a really good point, IMO.

Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD
Member
Reply to  KGB
5 days ago

I’ve never thought about it that way. I’ve always considered it to be a suicidal altruism endemic to whites.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  KGB
5 days ago

This is one of the reasons I keep butting heads with one of the priests in our parish. My old army boss is a Messianic Jew and has nothing but contempt for the antics of the tribe. He and I were having a conversation once about the whole “turning the other cheek” bit and he said a few things that made sense. His explanation of “turn the other cheek” was that it was Jesus’ way of telling the apostles “Don’t let the enemy get in your head.” if you allow yourself to be mentally pushed around by everything you hear,… Read more »

Zfan
Zfan
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

I’m an ex-Episcopal priest, now Catholic. I like your Army friend’s take on it– makes me want to go back to the Church Fathers’ commentaries for a refresher. I get the sense that most of the younger priests are more traditional and have a better sense of the real world than many Catholic priests of my own Boomer generation. They trend manlier as well. Good for you for speaking to the priest about it; I know I appreciated hearing from parishioners about how they took my homilies and I got my perspective challenged/straightened out more than once. (don’t we all… Read more »

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terranigma
terranigma
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

A proper translation for Matthew 5:39 is “Do not have enmity for an evil person.” Matthew 5:39-41 is highly contextual. A master would show displeasure and contempt for their servants by using their right hand to backhand the servant on the “right cheek”. If the servant turns the left cheek to their master, the master would have to use their left hand for a backhand strike which would be unclean and exposes the action as unclean. The Romans had a law that allowed their soldiers to force the subjects of the empire to carry their gear for a mile. For… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  KGB
5 days ago

Interesting insight. That probably explains a lot of guilt and self-loathing in whatever form it takes.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  KGB
5 days ago

A Christian Conservative friend told me he wouldn’t do anything to stop third world invaders from attacking him physically. He’s a big guy, 6-4, black belt in karate, and he actually said that. (makes one wonder why he put in the time and effort to get the black belt…) His reasoning is that he would follow the lead of Jesus. He said when they crucified Jesus he had the power to, for example, make a lightning bolt and strike his enemies to free himself, but chose not to. When I asked him if he would protect his wife and daughters… Read more »

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 days ago

Would he have fought back if his attackers were white? The answer would tell you all you need to know about his psychosis.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

That’s a great question. He has told me numerous times he prefers black Christians to White non-Christians. So I guess he’d rather live in Christian Nigeria over Japan.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 days ago

Let him know Miami to Lagos is under a grand. October 1st is only $541.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Wolf Barney
3 days ago

“When I asked him if he would protect his wife and daughters from the invaders he stumbled and couldn’t give me an answer.” This is why I’ve pretty much stopped speaking with these type of people—they have an infantile understanding of scripture, and especially the OT. Here’s a part of the Bible he seems to have overlooked. Specifically from Leviticus 19:16, which says: “Do not stand by idly when your neighbor’s life is at stake” or, in some translations, “You shall not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor.” This commandment is part of the broader moral and ethical… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Do gooders are a dangerous critter to have running around

oldcoyote
oldcoyote
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

rabid dogs and other dangerous critters need the triple S treatment.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

Do gooders are destroying the West…and proud of it!

Marko
Marko
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

I noticed a thing with older people I knew (friends’ parents) about 10 years ago…they seemed to grow a lefty conscience, where before (when I knew them as middle-aged people) they were normal, suburban center-right people. Suddenly they got all misty about civil rights and immigrants.

Of course, as Trump got elected and Covid blew through, they did all the predictable posturings. Now they’re Kamala voters.

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Marko
5 days ago

Dementia works in funny ways

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
3 days ago

That is true, hence all the scammers preying on old and lonely people. How much more so upon those box wine “cat ladies” with no relatives?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Marko
5 days ago

I think many olds–especially women–were guilted into atonement for their racism in early life. Atonement came in the form of being super, extra-nice to negroes they encountered, and perhaps even voting Dem occasionally. I call it the Oprah Effect.

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Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

You just described my mother

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

My mother died unrepentant for using the slang term for Brazilian nuts. Good for her, I say.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

And my maternal grandmother, RiP. My mother-in-law, too.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Marko
5 days ago

That’s gotta be a city thing. The oldsters around here tend to rant about all the commies. Commies like the Birchers and George Lincoln Rockwell. (The idea is that GLW was a Soviet plant meant to stir the CPA into action.)

Any time I’m depressed after a trip to Chicago, stopping by the cafe perks me right back up.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

You’re touching on my theory that the root of all the political turmoil these days is immigration. If they hadn’t let that get out of control, there wouldn’t be nearly as much turmoil as there is today.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TempoNick
3 days ago

You are close Nick. Jump up a few thousand feet and redo your observation. Race mixing is the root of all political turmoil. Our influx of “immigrants” have been of mixed, but non-root stock (White), since the late 1960’s. If we’d have keep them European, we’d not be here today. This observation/theory also has a corollary: even when the primary race (White) is gone, the turmoil will continue.

btp
Member
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

When people understand that the duty to defend a community falls on every man, then bastards like this will no longer feel safe as they go about the business of aiding the genocide of our people.

Tars Tarkas
Member
Reply to  btp
5 days ago

The problem is, so many “communities” no longer exist. Many of them got replaced by “abstract communities” based on thinking and not proximity. People now live in zip codes and not actual communities. Every single year more than 2% of all “Americans” make an interstate move and never stay very long. Everyone is from somewhere else and plans on moving at the first opportunity. You cannot build a community with a bunch of strangers who don’t plan on staying anyway.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

We’ve got those infesting every level of money and power in my town, Ashland, Kentucky. They’ve allowed all sorts of tramps to be transported right here, where they adorn every street corner begging, camping out in the woods here in town, and they love to live in the basements of empty houses. There’s also an art gallery on Winchester Avenue where they love to go, as well as the Highlands Museum. These are Democrat institutions, for they’ve already had the chicks with d!cks putting on their shows, and reading to their children as well. The attendance to either has massively… Read more »

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Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Reminds me of that video floating around of that factory owner in Springfield lauding the superiority of the Haitian invaders over his local people, as if people in his local community would owe such a sleazebucket scoundrel anything.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
5 days ago

Does his surname have a Green-, Stein-, or -berg in it?

Evil Sandmich
Evil Sandmich
Reply to  Coalclinker
5 days ago

Alas no (Jamie McGregor). Say what you will about the Tiny hats, but they’re not traitors.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Evil Sandmich
5 days ago

It’s astounding that these Haitians have for 2 centuries presided over the biggest shit hole country on earth – even the Dominicans keep them at arm’s length – but as soon as they get to Springfield, OH they become saviors of the community. Magic dirt, indeed!

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

I seem to recall a character in one of Dickens’ novels who had zero compassion for the downtrodden in her native Britain but when it came to the destitute and deprived of foreign lands (the more foreign, the better) she was all too willing to contribute her time and money.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
5 days ago

Mrs. Jellby

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  3g4me
5 days ago

Mrs. Jellyby, armchair philanthropist

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
5 days ago

The Duchess of Sutherland had a similar attitude with regards to negroes. When Harriet Beecher Stowe read her excerpts from “Uncle Tom’s Cabin”, she reportedly was in tears and asked how she could help them. Contrast that with the fact that the Duchess had hundreds of dirt-poor Scots – including a large number of children – residing on her lands who were starving and she couldn’t have cared less about them.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Look at the story about the Haitians in Ohio. The factory owner came out and said that he prefers Haitians because they “show up on time and aren’t on drugs.” Of course Richard Hanania, desperate to get approval from the ruling elite, blasted this out. But look, this is how it is. These old relatively wealthy local scions are not our friends. They don’t like White people any more than the bureaucrats running these operations in DC do. They want Whites gone just as much as anyone working for Mayorkas. He gets cheap labor, treats them like crap, and relies… Read more »

Oswald Spengler
Oswald Spengler
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

Traitorous business owners like that sleazy Springfield factory owner get cheap compliant workers who will quietly accept rock bottom wages and lousy working conditions. The Wokies get plenty of welfare clients to shower money on and virtue signal to each other about. The Democratic machine gets a new cheap voter base that’s less demanding than blacks. Unlimited mass immigration is the lifeblood of the Left today.

Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Oswald Spengler
5 days ago

Absolutely, and this is what people need to realize. We have so much of it because it is mutually beneficial to both sides. The negative externalities get pushed on to us. You can blame the juice, you can blame the liberals, you can blame Nancy Pelosi, you can blame “Catholic” Charities, you can blame Mayorkas, you can blame whatever, but this would not be happening if the Republicans and “elite” Whites who run both large and small companies did not want it as well. On this issue and many others, their job is to lie to your face while making… Read more »

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Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

The Jews who run Catholic Charities were hired by Christians to do exactly what they’re doing. You buy a doberman to scare burglars, a beagle to find a body, or a pit bull to eat your baby. The Church’s mission—Christendom’s mission—is to End Whiteness. Jews show a unique eagerness to see it accomplished. So let them. Reminds me of a story from somewhere. But never mind stories. They’re just better workers, like the Springfield Haitians, the Aztecs on your roof, or the Pakis turning out the daughters of England. You’re too lazy, drugged, and emotional to show up on time… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

To be fair, do you know how many whites I have to go through to get a goodwhite on the payroll? They are generally good at showing up on time, but (a reflection of our times) way too often can’t pass the insurance-mandated random drug test, or they show up hung over on way too many Mondays. There are only so many things to do if I can’t let him on the forklift or run the machinery until the afternoon.

The ones I can hire without even an interview are the ones whose dads I know.

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Mycale
Mycale
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

In the 2000s, hundreds of thousands of young White men and women died from drug overdose. This was before they could start families, work, be productive. Ohio was the epicenter of this problem, and nobody in government lifted a finger. So now, 10-20 years later, they’re just importing 70 IQ Haitians to do the work those dead Whites would have done, insulting Whites as they do it, and taking glee in doing so (like Hanania). I know you need employees and I get it, but this is a societal problem that isn’t being addressed because the ruling class hates us… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

Oh, definitely! I suspect it goes back quite a bit further, at least to the nose candy of the ’80s. And likely back into the ’60s, so “the man” had an excuse to bring in foreigners.

By the mid ’90s, it was a challenge to find line workers who would stay clean long enough for the THC to clear. Despair and escape is not just a Zoomer thing.

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mycale
3 days ago

The economists have a term/description for this phenomenon.

They say what we are seeing is an externalization of costs and an internalization of benefits.

Of course, the broken White workforce was created due to government incentives first created by NAFTA. Our industries were incentivized to move overseas to obtain low cost workforce, while the owners kept the profits in their pockets and the White community declined into poverty and despair (externalization).

Now we import those workers to these shores and externalize the cost (now on steroids) while again internalizing the benefit. No other “non-Western” country does this.

manc
manc
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

Part of the problem in Ohio is the Governor, the repellent Mike DeWine. He’s done “mission” trips to Haiti and has no issue with importing a bunch Caribbean peasants into an already struggling small town. He’s a brain dead hack and should be stuffed in a bottle and dropped into the Cuyahoga River.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  manc
4 days ago

There are any number of studies showing 1st generation immigrants to be relatively good workers and potential citizens. I’ve always chalked that up to a recent memory or how bad the situation they came from was, a fear of being sent back, and a bit of selection bias. These studies however show an excessive welfare use, extending even onto the second generation. There seems to be less study of how those born in the USA of such parents fare. I suspect not so good. My concern is that importing such people simply creates societal costs, which are then apportioned to… Read more »

Gideon
Gideon
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

For your next piece may I suggest you research more about today’s ESL teaching methodologies (hint: the learners’ first language is not ordinarily used)? And while probably not a needed plot device, I’m having difficulty understanding how your setting would have people with a range of proficiencies in Spanish. I could imagine there being fluent speakers of Spanish, Tagalog, Hindi, or what have you in a given American locale, but the typical native-born resident would not speak a word of any of them. In fact, I find myself questioning your basic premise, since “can’t speak English,” while a bugaboo for… Read more »

Justinian
Justinian
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

Men like him are just parasites. I like to think they’ll get their just desserts, but our society rewards such conduct. It’s now state-sanctioned parasitism.

Whiskey
Whiskey
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

I would investigate the possibility of class action lawsuits against this guy. There have to be homeowners who have damage. And a lawyer willing to take this on. Discovery alone would be not fun for this guy.

Tired Citizen
Tired Citizen
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

What’s his “early life” profile say?

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
Reply to  Arthur Metcalf
5 days ago

People like this make me so very hopeful for a miracle to happen in the form of a cataclysmic event where things go so out of control that the law effectively ends. More realistically I hope I live long enough to see the final stages of liberalism bringing about planet of the apes & the inevitable subsequent toll collection of people like that. Speaking of, every time I see a thin blue line flag my mind instantly jumps to people like him & then the savages they bring here. People like him, the NGOs, politicians et al, their precious savages… Read more »

Jaded old man
Jaded old man
5 days ago

Conservatism isn’t an ideology. It’s a delaying tactic. That’s why conservatives never manage to conserve anything.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jaded old man
5 days ago

Yep. We olds tried and failed to come up with something to oppose the progs. It’s high time for the whippersnappers to come up with a replacement. At least before they end up in the nursing homes, too. We can’t do everything for you your whole lives.

I mean, crap, the best idea they’ve come up with so far is ConInc 2.0, now with Charlie Kirk and extra BoomerHate.

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oldcoyote
oldcoyote
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

muh muh genarayshun (me) deserves all the extra boomer hate. period. what exactly did any of my dope smoking draft dodging asshole compradres do to resist anything but temptations. hmmm? voat hardurr? cuck to some bitch who moaned about how unfair everything was? what exactly was it “we olds” tried to do to resist (and failed) with the progs? “well, i voated”. lols. meanwhile, the fine wasp dude in the comment about the library thing was feted at the local chamber and GOP fundraiser back in the day by all the ‘pub voaters… . lols. karma is such a bitch,… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  oldcoyote
5 days ago

Don’t personally know your generation, or indeed, anyone like you, then. No idea how I got lumped into it. I wasn’t actually, until after college and they moved the line from 1962 to 1964.

But FFS, get off your fucking knees and do something about it. Don’t be like those worthless congresscritters (mostly Boomers led by Silents) taking a knee for BLM.

At the very least, you ran your own business and hired exclusively whites, right?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Gotta get over the Nazi business, quit letting Hitler be a stumbling block. It’s about identity. Conservatives don’t conserve, because they’re afraid to open the door to who they are. Lefty thinks Hitler is hiding in the shadows, Righty thinks he’s within. So conservatives settle for money and ideology— and lose.

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Paintersforms
5 days ago

It’s why I’m still glad the alt-right happened. Roman salutes and tiki torch marches were dumb, but they might’ve been a necessary beginning. Today’s crazy, if it isn’t so crazy to self-destruct, sometimes moderates over time and becomes tomorrow’s legitimate.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Paintersforms
5 days ago

Righty thinks he’s within.”

Likely because education is really indoctrination. One either has to be horribly propagandized or a complete retard to think the Fake and Gay GAE has much in common with Hitler. Sure there’s the nationalization of the assets of the dissenters, lawfare, stupid economic ideas like protectionism, but that’s not the core of Hitler’s programme. It was probably Hitler’s take on protectionism that made his prewar buildup much worse than it would have been, and limited the length of war he could have.

Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Stephen Dowling Botts, Dec'd
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Realized I misunderstood Steve and deleted the post.

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Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
5 days ago
  1. I used to be the biggest Churchill – Lincoln – Jefferson fan. The scales falling from the eyes these days are feet thick concrete blocks….
RealityRules
RealityRules
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

Well said. post-America was and is an imperial project. It is aimed at creating a global mercantile imperium. It will be controlled militarily by full spectrum dominance on the seas with a master control in space. It will be controlled ideologically through full spectrum information control. It will be controlled regionally through racial patronage networks and switching between anarcho-tyranny and harsh repression as the situation dictates. Conservatives were there to pretend defend America and its natos. The frog has boiled. Now we go our own way. Should opportunity arise once we are strong enough to ally and bargain with real… Read more »

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  RealityRules
5 days ago

I think the imperial project is unraveling in real time. Ukraine is the focal point right now in figuring out if GAE can push around the other big guys. GAE is not doing well

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  RealityRules
5 days ago

I can’t think of an empire that wasn’t good for business. Even the USSR made some men stupid rich, even if their assets were technically state-owned. You can abolish private property, but it doesn’t seem like you can abolish trade or traders.

I’d go so far to guess empire is about business, at the end of the day. Another reason I’m a civ skeptic.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Paintersforms
5 days ago

You can’t even abolish private property. You can abolish titles, sure, but State ownership of property does not eliminate private property, it just means that it is the private property of those who manage it.

If the Capitol is really public property, what justification can one make for prosecuting the public for “parading” through it?

Jannie
Jannie
Reply to  RealityRules
5 days ago

America was and is an imperial project. It is aimed at creating a global mercantile imperium. It will be controlled militarily by full spectrum dominance on the seas with a master control in space. It will be controlled ideologically through full spectrum information control. It will be controlled regionally through racial patronage networks and switching between anarcho-tyranny and harsh repression as the situation dictates.”

Sounds a lot like the good old British Empire! Ever read anything about the Boer War, old chap?

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

what’s wrong with Jefferson?

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
5 days ago

He’s an American. Unfortunately, many on the DR allow their fully justified hatred of AINO to bleed onto the whole of America proper. George Washington becomes just as vile as George Soros.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

I see. Well, to be fair perhaps the world would be a better place if English colonialism stayed supreme in the world.

The King of England was downright hospitable to the colonies compared to the outright tyranny that the USgov became.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  fakeemail
5 days ago

Fair point. but I think you need to draw the right comparisons — King George III to early American republic, Peel to Lincoln, whomever to Wilson, Churchill to FDR, etc.

Internationally, US was pretty much irrelevant until at least Teddy Roosevelt, by which time England had become the Empire on Whom the Sun Never Sets or whatever it was called.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  fakeemail
5 days ago

The question is, is AINO the ineluctible result of America, or was it possible to make different decisions that would have preserved America and obviated AINO? If the latter, America was worth creating and preserving. If not, then it was misbegotten from the word go. I believe America was great, but a few terrible decisions/policies destroyed it.

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fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

AINO was the ineluctable results of the Civil War and Civil Rights Era and the Federal Reserve.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  fakeemail
4 days ago

I’m open to the idea. Did it require all three? If, somehow, the Civil War War Against the States had been averted, would AINO have still come about? Or was it all “inevitable” (I hate that word) because John Wilkes Booth waited 4 years too long?

Paintersforms
Paintersforms
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
4 days ago

Surfguy and Compsci pointed out in yesterday’s post that the Brits were building Confederate ships in their yards. A friend of mine, who I trust on these matters, told me Lee was being advised by British generals at Gettysburg. So the Brits were supporting the South, because it was in their interest to break up the US, and the South’s interest was to maintain their profitable trade with the UK. Cheap cotton for British textiles, and such. I’m not rah-rah Lincoln, but I do think he had the right idea about preserving the Union. It was a terrible situation that… Read more »

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Pozymandias
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

I’m in a local “conservative” meetup group. We don’t do anything useful. We sit at our table in the diner and whine about the Left. There’s another similar group that I just can’t bear to join because of its name. It’s “Friends of Abe”. Jeebus. Still, it’s good to hear about people like you freeing themselves from the mind-rot.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Pozymandias
3 days ago

“Pity parties” never are useful—which is why I avoid them. Yeah, some such discussion is socially useful, like small talk about the recent weather, but that should take only a few minutes. At that point I’m a pretty silent figure in these groups.

3g4me
3g4me
5 days ago

Candace Owens gets away with what she says because she’s a black married to a White Brit (with some seriously fugly offspring) and thus personifies normie’s aspirational color blindness and melting-pot pabulum. That’s the basis of any ‘moral standing’ she may have. She is ultimately another gatekeeper, the very embodiment of White replacement.

Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
Reply to  3g4me
5 days ago

save us white men, based black lady! We’re ever such bottom bitches!

Eloi
Eloi
Reply to  3g4me
5 days ago

Read your comment. Went straight to Google to look up pictures of the kids. Ugghhh…

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Eloi
5 days ago

Thank you for your service.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Eloi
5 days ago

Glutton for punishment, eh?

Whitney
Member
5 days ago

After Mass on Tuesday, I stayed for lunch and I was talking to the people at my end of the table, it is an extremely conservative parish, tlm, age range was early gen-x late Boomer and the slightly off daughter of one of them. When we realize September 11th was the next day we did the obligatory where were you when and then the daughter asked “so do we know what happened?” and no joke all four of us just shrugged our shoulders, it was so spontaneous it was almost funny. Narrative collapse is real, these people would have all… Read more »

Horace
Horace
Reply to  Whitney
5 days ago

I was DoD at the time, as were most most of my friends, some as contractors. ALL of us got warnings about Israeli ‘art students’. It is crystal clear with 100% certainty based on the MASSIVE Israeli espionage operation (1) inside FUSA that one of two things is true: either the Israelis knew about the impending attack and told no one or the Israelis knew about the attack and forewarned our government who then chose to do nothing. Either is plausible. (1) Also recall the numerous Israeli ‘moving van’ companies. A whole bunch of those operations were rolled up, then… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Whitney
5 days ago

Heh

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Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  TempoNick
4 days ago

Geez, Nick. Get real. The collapse of the main buildings dude to fire has been explained over and over again. This crap is the stuff discussed on The View by sub room temp hysterical females. Quite getting your info from internet memes.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Compsci
4 days ago

The other two, maybe. But for the third one, I will never believe WTC 7 fell because of fire.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Whitney
5 days ago

I only remember where I was because I pushed aside the business and took a long overdue vacation with my family.

I leave for three fucking days and you can’t hold things together without me?

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Whitney
5 days ago

WTC 7 falling is the one that makes me very suspicious.

HalfTrolling
HalfTrolling
5 days ago

Its interesting how you and mr derb disagree on this point. For the record you are completely correct Z. The current order is utterly rotten and for it to be razed to its foundation, the founding myth itself must be overturned

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Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  HalfTrolling
5 days ago

O think it’s time for derb to acknowledge the fundamental unfairness of his famous MacDonald “the Jew thing” essay. I was of the same sentiment back then as well. But it aged like milk, not wine. Dern does himself no honor by not retracting that old hit piece, which is what it was

Salmon
Salmon
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

Zman’s echoed his thoughts nearly word for word for some reason. Which I for one am grateful for, it’s about time *somebody* in this thing of ours managed to take a principled stand against antisemetism. Won’t someone save those poor chosen’s feelings?

Moran ya Simba
Moran ya Simba
Reply to  Salmon
5 days ago

I remember. I didn’t quite agree there. The JQ is not the answer to everything but it’s become perfectly legit to look at if reality is your bedrock and it’s content is not the empty set either

Vegetius
Vegetius
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

The JQ answers the question of who is sovereign, makes the friend/enemy distinction, and reduces everything else to either a detail or a distraction.

But this invaluable hueristic does not appeal to intelligent people who wasted their time on math or computers or libertarianism and still think they they are smarter than everyone else.

Social reality is horseshoes and handgrenades, not digits after a decimal.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Moran ya Simba
5 days ago

“[I] think it’s time for derb to acknowledge the fundamental unfairness of his famous MacDonald “the Jew thing” essay. “

What specifically, if I may be so bold?

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  HalfTrolling
5 days ago

the founding myth itself must be overturned”

Depends on how you feel about “myth”. I’d also note that is it’s so bad, why are our enemies so dedicated to erasing our past as well?

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Compsci
5 days ago

Would that I could upvote 100 times…

Marko
Marko
5 days ago

The Regime thinks everything is a TV show, so I remember The West Wing had a token conservative character. He was the gentle wrongthink memorial to the enlightened center-left government. He merely reminded the Bartlett administration that conservatives exist, somewhere, and could be kept around, in small numbers of course, like that funky old TV stand that your mother gave you when you got your first house but it doesn’t match any of your decor, but you can’t bring yourself to throw it away. It doesn’t match anything, but it does remind you when your mother was a comfy presence… Read more »

Barnard
Barnard
Reply to  Marko
5 days ago

I never watched it, but that show did a lot of damage. It convinced a generation of young lefties that is what the political process should look like. Not that good things were happening before it, but it made the whole process less serious and accelerated decline.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

In the mid 1990s, there was a brief wellspring of genuine civic duty in the Republican party, manifested in the “republican revolution” of 1994, effected by Reagan Republicans who actually believed in what they were pushing. This is why, to this day, many on both the left and right still refer to Bill Clinton as “center right” or even as conservative. He was never any such thing, but this GOP congressional majority forced him in that direction, and like the good politician he is, he took credit for the popular things that they forced him to do. This dynamic lasted… Read more »

Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

Yeah, “Gingrich” Republicanism was killed by the OK City bombing and the 95 government shutdown. That was when I first started to think we might lose, and began my long, slow journey to the dark side.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
5 days ago

It seems to me that those shutdowns demonstrated that few voters were willing to shut down the government for the sake of fiscal responsibility. They really didn’t mind unlimited borrowing against their children’s futures.

A different population of voters might have chosen to let the government close. I wonder if the country had kept its original standards for who could vote if the result would have been different.

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3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

I think it’s past time to retire the trope that ‘good people’ are “corrupted” by DC. No such thing as magic or tragic dirt. They are corrupt people to start with who are further and willingly corrupted by electoral and party politics long before they get to Sodom on the Potomac. That’s the only type of people the system selects for.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  3g4me
3 days ago

A slight variation/elaboration on your perfectly sensible comment. I believe we have a percentage of the population who are *born* “sociopaths”. This mental disorder has been estimated as high as 5% of the population. Those folks are attracted to such endeavors as politics and other large institutional control.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

Presented that way, quite plausible. I’ll have to think on it. Thanks!

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Maybe I’ve been reading too much of Ron Unz’s American Pravda. That post reads like a reader’s digest version.

Montefrio
Member
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

Perot took my vote from Bush and Pat Buchanan was freely given it. He (Buchanan) lost and I decided to expatriate once again, but for the last time. I was gone in ’98 and have stayed gone. The rural outpost to which I retreated is now growing by leaps and bounds: urban retirees and remittance men (and women), in some cases trust fund hippies with kids named Anubis and Kali who go to the Waldorf school. The upside is they all need water wells, so my son, who has a water well drilling biz, has a 12 client backlog, oil… Read more »

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Jeffrey Zoar
5 days ago

Slick Willie was rumored to be CIA. What do you think?

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Tarl Cabot
Tarl Cabot
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

The Mena airport drug smuggling was thought to be a CIA op, and many believed that Clinton’s shenanigans were ignored because he played ball with them when he was governor.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Tarl Cabot
5 days ago

Supposedly the CIA recruits people right out of Oxford.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

of course he was.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

I’ve no doubt he was, but that picture is a little overrated in memeland. The presence of Lisa Taylor Wallace (George’s 3rd wife) on the right indicates it was taken while Clinton, who looks young, was already governor (which he became at 32). It’s hardly unusual for a governor to be hobnobbing with that crowd.

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
5 days ago

The things that Cooper and Candace are saying are leaks in the regime’s dam of approved thought. What Trump said in 2016 about rapists and criminals crossing the border was also a leak. Same with his recent comment about pets disappearing in Ohio. More leaks are appearing, and it’s becoming a bigger effort for the regime to fix.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 days ago

That was brilliant by Trump, by the way. I was asking all the people mocking Trump if they have been paying attention the last 8 years. Trump always throws out something that sounds ridiculous and maybe was exaggerated. Mainstream sources pick him apart and mock him, and slowly but surely we find out that Trump was on to something. Same pattern repeats over and over.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

Obama, ironically, did the same. It was David Plouffe, I think, who called it “stray voltage.” Since Obama was a sacralized race, it was celebrated back then. It is a smart marketing tactic.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Wolf Barney
5 days ago

Complete information control made them lazy and careless. Amplification of the cat consumption in a slipshod effort to make Trump and Co. look bad simply draws attention to the invasion.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
5 days ago

In other words, the point was not to provide an alternative history or answer reasonable questions about important events of the official narrative, but to legitimize questioning of it. Excellent point and you have identified the actual reason behind the silly panic. The genie is out. A prominent blogger today linked a very recent Foreign Affairs article that calls for modified internationalism that is repackaged as semi-isolationism. As the blogger noted, the main goal of the article is to tell people what to think in a new way that still maintains imperial control. After the squalling and squealing subsides over… Read more »

Fred Beans
Fred Beans
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

I wouldn’t be surprised to see articles from Time and Newsweek appearing about how eating housepets is good for the environment!

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Fred Beans
5 days ago

That stage of the dissembling is known as “yes, it is true, and a good thing!”

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Fred Beans
5 days ago

The flatulence of FiFi and Fido will turn Gaia into a living hell, sure as shootin’.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

Who invented herbivores, anyway? They can’t be natural with the way they upset the environment.

zfan
zfan
Reply to  Fred Beans
5 days ago

The correct narrative and solution: The economically/nutritionally at risk migrants need increased EBT and then they will be able to access the same prepared foods as the privileged white people, provided they don’t live in a food desert. Better fund an NGO to “address” that. NPR, please send me a payment, or at least a tote bag, for my idea.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Fred Beans
5 days ago

Some have hoped that liberal women will turn against massive immigration if it puts their beloved cats at risk. I hope so, but remember that strident feminism suddenly became submissive when the topic turned to black males and their treatment of women. Suddenly these outspoken feminists became meek and quiet, except to blame white supremacy.

When black people eat their cats, will they somehow blame white men? (I bet my sister would.)

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bad thinker
bad thinker
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 days ago

Change cat to a synonym and the “Cat Ladies” will be 100% in favor of a cat eating Haitian invasion. Ducks are out of luck.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  bad thinker
5 days ago

You are a bad thinker. Nicely done.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  bad thinker
5 days ago

Well done.

The Doughty Pensioner
The Doughty Pensioner
Reply to  bad thinker
5 days ago

These are the grandchildren of the “Ton Ton Macoutes”…nothing changes.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  bad thinker
5 days ago

Not quite following. Are you suggesting that’s one of those jobs Americans just won’t do?

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bad thinker
bad thinker
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

Good question. I for one don’t want those leftovers, but Haitian taste seems more adventurous; I don’t think they check expiration dates.

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Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 days ago

Yep. The same women and feminized men who rail against “Climate “Change” go silent when it is pointed out that mass migration makes it worse if the theory is correct. Better to melt under a scorching sun than to be seen as racist, of course.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 days ago

That’s about the size of it. The pavement apes can do no wrong, even when they sin against every commandment in the Leftist catechism. They are the Left’s immaculate deities.

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  LineInTheSand
5 days ago

No, they won’t. Liberal women are too personality disordered to think coherently about this issue.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Fred Beans
5 days ago

Funny you should mention that. I think the only thing Newsweek prints anymore is adopted animal stories, or at least that’s what comes into my Google feed from them all the time. It’s just a brand name now.

Boris
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

You have a google feed? The horror.

TempoNick
TempoNick
Reply to  Boris
5 days ago

I don’t know if I called it by its correct name, when I open up a new tab on chrome, it shows me a bunch of stories. The ones from Newsweek always seem to do with adopted cats.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  TempoNick
5 days ago

Switch to Brave already. If you trust them, you can even do a direct link into Tor if you want to do something naughty.

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Brave’s search is so censored (or corrupted by being Google-trained or whatever) that it can’t even find Bible quotes. It started very well, then, like all accessible search tools, it had its one day.

And have a look at the company’s executive bio gallery. Bring eye protection. This is what Our Democracy looks like. Nudge.

So don’t use Brave if you’re doing anything interesting.

—posted via Brave

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  Hemid
5 days ago

I use Brave. And I often use Yandex to do searches. Whatever serves its purpose.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Hemid
5 days ago

Truth. Find a search engine that matches the kinds of things you typically search for.

Though I do find Brave adequate for Bible verses. It’s just a matter of knowing enough of the verse in ESV or NIV for it to end up on the front page. If you know the KJV well enough that you don’t need to look it up in the first place, it’s often the #1 or #2 hit.

Dutchboy
Dutchboy
5 days ago

Current American conservatism is just the liberalism of thirty years ago. America is a liberal country founded on liberal philosophical assumptions. The liberals always have the high ground and the “conservatives” know it. If you oppose liberalism, you are philosophically anti-American. Such knowledge is demoralizing for those who consider themselves patriotic (conservatives) and hinders their ability to oppose their more liberal political enemies. Each liberal victory is quickly rationalized as really being conservative after all (e.g., civil rights, gay rights, abortion, and the whole sodomitic agenda).

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
Reply to  Dutchboy
5 days ago

“Each liberal victory is quickly rationalized as really being conservative after all (e.g., civil rights, gay rights, abortion, and the whole sodomitic agenda).”

You know in the end, ditches won’t care who gets thrown into them.

fakeemail
fakeemail
5 days ago

“but to open the conversation about the official narrative” God, please! Next sacred cow that has to be scrutinized is immigration. For so long it’s part of the BS “melting pot” narrative and all the old-timers think it’s the same as the early 20th Century Great Waves of Italians, Irish, and Jews. (which wasn’t so idyllic at the time, BTW). But it needs to be start be called outright as the replacement and terrorism that it is and was. Nothing to do with giving “hopeful newcomers” a better life; it’s about giving YOU a worse life. Cheap labor, cheap votes,… Read more »

Mycale
Mycale
5 days ago

This article has been written thousands of times, word for word, just swap out Candance Owens and Nick Fuentes for whoever was the villain of the moment at the time. They don’t realize that nobody cares anymore. They blew up their operation after October 7th, when they kept spouting obvious falsehoods (about the decapitated babies, for example) about stuff that just happened, leading to people wondering what else are they lying about. It’s over. And even if every thing they have ever said and written is true, how does that give them license to commit genocide in Gaza? Why are… Read more »

Hemid
Hemid
Reply to  Mycale
5 days ago

My wife still listens to the the partially animated corpse of Mark Steyn, who’s lost as much IQ to age and illness as Biden has (but from a far higher starting point). On his show this week when listeners asked about the Cooper/Tucker OUTRAGE, he began his commentary very weirdly, saying this is “all about Gaza.” After admitting he didn’t hear the show and knew nothing about it, he darkly wondered why Tucker didn’t interrupt Cooper’s antisemitic tirade, and alleged but never explained that this new thinking ill of Churchill thing happening on the right endangers everything (just like Derb… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Hemid
5 days ago

There are lies we must believe. You nailed it there with that tremendous insight. It is also a necessary pivot since truth is so much harder to contain these days. We absolutely are no different (save our wealth, tenuous as it is) than those who lived in the final years of Ceausescu, going along with the lies incrementally more slowly as our lives diminish. Marx got much right, but the real opiate of the masses always has been and remains materialism. The choice now as then is either publicly profess belief in the lies or be harshly punished. As long… Read more »

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  Hemid
5 days ago

Steyn lost me over 15 years ago when his predictions of Islamic numbers and Islamic birth rates turned out to be bogus. He was one of those people who claimed that Muslims in the middle-east and Muslims in Europe had a fertility rate of 5 to 6 kids. In reality, most middle-eastern countries have fertility rates around 2 and some of them (Turkey and Iran) rates comparable to European white people. Recent Muslim immigrant have fertility rates around 2, then drop to the European white average within 10 years of arrival. I posted all of this on Razib Khan’s blog… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
4 days ago

Perhaps a bit of clarity is in order. TFR includes live births, but takes no account of deaths after birth. So one could look at third world births and predict high TFR and see lower total population increase due to deaths after birth. We had a similar situation in the USA 100+ year ago. Likewise, we’d expect a lower TFR for 3rd world immigrants once they figure out, they don’t need 5 children to have 2 survive into adulthood.

Abelard Lindsey
Abelard Lindsey
Reply to  Hemid
4 days ago

Are you serious that Steyn is loosing it cognitively? He is only 64 years old. Maybe he got the clot shots and boosters.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
4 days ago

Dunno. Lawfare takes a lot out of a guy. I probably lost a decade in a year and a half. Someone here sounds like he came out much worse.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Abelard Lindsey
4 days ago

Don’t know about dementia, but Styen has had health issues and great psychological stress from being sued by the climate fraud, Mann, in Canada—not the best place to defend an anti-climate change position from.

Member
5 days ago

The Republican party really hasn’t had a reason to exist since 1876, when they finally gave up on military occupation and “Reconstruction” of the Confederacy. Ever since then, they have been ideologues in search of an ideology, but not having the stones to be truly counterrevolutionary in over a century, much preferring to be obedient lapdogs.

Tom K
Tom K
5 days ago

The guy who wrote that piece on Candace Owens says that there were no dancing Israelis. I clearly remember that there were dancing Israelis. I remember following that little drama with keen interest. It’s all been memory-holed now so the anaesthetized masses are ignorant of it at this point since a full generation has passed since the event, but it was prominent in the news cycle at the time. Candace Owens was right about that one but — and I didn’t come up with this but it makes sense — Candace Owens is allowed to continue posting on social media… Read more »

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Tom K
5 days ago

Check out Ryan Dawson, if you haven’t already

He is a bit of an acquired taste and he may strike people of the lead singer from Red Hot Chili Peppers in both look and persona, but he is excellent in terms of his research into 9/11. He talks of how the dancing Israelis were actually arrested so there is a paper trail and public records that shysters cannot then say these dancing Israelis never existed.

Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

Thanks, I’ll check him out. Yes, they were arrested and it was widely reported. Then Israel worked their diplomatic connections to get them hustled out of the country before they could be questioned. They even triumphantly appeared on Israeli television after they were deported. They were taping the attack as it happened. Why were they dancing? It was because they knew it was going to send their golem into a rage over the “terrurists” and get us into war in the Middle East. And the rest is history. Ironically Bush the Dumber put Muslim immigration into hyperdrive after that because…… Read more »

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Tom K
Tom K
Reply to  Tom K
4 days ago

I meant to say Tower 7. Obviously, it was touch-and-go for the usual suspects as they had to scramble to fortify the narrative as it evolved. But Tower 7 is irrefutable proof that the riggers rigged more than a narrative. The problem for the narrative riggers is alternative media. That genie can never be put back in the bottle, try as hard as they may. Ordinary people today don’t see Israel as the little underdog they once did, for example, in the times when the only alternative narratives were delivered by snail-mail in brown parcels, so you had to be… Read more »

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karl von hungus
karl von hungus
5 days ago

i think the fact that conservatism has exactly 0 victories for ll their huffing and puffing. but their dainty hands are oh so clean and pink.

Whiskey
Whiskey
5 days ago

Rome depended on fairly massive, and well organized military force (the legions were basically a walled shield army as a giant stabbing machine); and internal cohesion balancing competing factions, interests, and classes. When both broke down the first opportunistic threats would bring them down, which did happen eventually when the barbarians both grew in number and adopted much of Roman military organization, meanwhile having greater internal cohesion. It is interesting that unlike our age, Rome’s had little to none of “ideology” to fuel internal conflict. The US depended on a massive industrial base, with little internal conflict, and massive mobilization… Read more »

Yman
Yman
5 days ago

conservatism, Buckley conservatism or Russell Kirk’s one are a deception and distraction that targeting white people

It’s talking about life is buy and selling, a deal maker, consumerism that makes you hollow men

Its also talk about individualism, there’s no collective interest in white because different class means different kinds

every talking point of conservatism exists to divide white people as individual

true conservatism is ethnic nationalism and collectivism which Chinese and south Korean practice

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
5 days ago

“The master does not see [a collapse, crisis] coming, but neither do the slaves.”

Fiction might seem an odd place to glean useful historical lessons but here goes. One of the books I studied in Spanish Lit, an example of magical realism, was Alejo Carpentier’s The Kingdom of this World.
 
The narrative takes place during Haiti’s revolution. If one was in the previously favorable (for a slave) position of serving Massa in his home, come the revolution, those slaves’ life expectancy dropped quickly and suddenly. It greatly increased one’s odds of survival if one could pass as a field hand.

Hokkoda
Member
5 days ago

“…conservatism still seemed to be driving the conversation in Washington.” ”Seemed” is the operative word, here. In the 1990’s, Conservative Inc was ascendant. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, good times. When a new business is growing, everyone wants in on the party. Nobody even bothered to ask the most important question. Is this real, it’s just a scam to take money from suckers. In dramatic fashion, Conservative Inc proved the latter. Trump’s election, as I wrote in 2015, was going to do one of two things. It would either advance the many goals exposed by Con Inc, or it would put… Read more »

right2remainviolent
right2remainviolent
5 days ago

All one needs to do is look at the genealogy of the “conservatism” that won out over guys like Buchanan.

Bill Kristol leads directly to Trotsky. Not hard to do the math.

Karl Horst
Karl Horst
5 days ago

A bit off topic, but I had to comment about what Trump said about the consumption of cats and dogs in some parts of America. Just so your audience knows, it’s a fact they do eat dogs in Switzerland, more so by farmers in the Appenzell and St Gallen cantons. They have eaten dogs for ages, nothing new, and it’s completely legal to consume them under strict laws about how it can be done and who can consume them. However unlike horse meat, you just can’t sell dog or cat meat for public consumption.  Fun fact; in 1993 an animal… Read more »

Wolf Barney
Wolf Barney
Reply to  Karl Horst
5 days ago

Switzerland: New home for the Haitians?

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
5 days ago

From the web–

The teeth-grinding stupidity:
“If you want to identify a real problem, it will be constitutional illiteracy in our elected officials and in the voters that elect them.”

<<1) Elect at least a generation of conservative supermajorities in both chambers of congress. They have to be supermajorities…

2) We will have to elect a string of conservative presidents to work with the conservative congresses.>>

They were talking about pet-eating Haitians in Ohio.
Good gods almighty, these mummies think cannibals won’t end up bloc-voting for General Barbeque.

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TomA
TomA
5 days ago

Not only do they not see the collapse coming, but they don’t perceive the anger boiling below the surface. When the rubber band snaps, the backlash is going to be shockingly violent as well as unexpected. And this is by design. There is a meme floating around the dissident internet that goes “first the traitors, then the invaders” and its being passed along by men who are professional in the art of violence. Methinks they won’t know what hit them, which is a mercy of sorts.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  TomA
5 days ago

Methinks they won’t know what hit them, which is a mercy of sorts.”

Agreed. The ones I’ve seen it from are more moral than the average bear. The only torture they will likely inflict is that the traitor never knows where his name is on the list.

Blasphemous
Blasphemous
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

It’s all talk and that’s all it will ever be.

Its a coping method to distract the mind from the humiliation of becoming a conquered people without ever fighting back.

”We’re all just biding our time and one day we’ll be real men a show them what it means to screw with us.”

Sure.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Blasphemous
5 days ago

There’s a reason they keep saying “We are a nation of immigrants” What that implies is that no one ever stops being an immigrant, thus your ownership of the country is never complete, your citizenship always has an asterisk next to it, and that if your roots here involved an immigrant then you remain an immigrant, now and forever That idea needs to be defeated. There needs to be a rebuttal to it made loud and clear, because it’s that idea that seems to be paralyzing the 80% of the country or whatever it is who have immigrant roots. They… Read more »

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Falcone
4 days ago

Point taken. However, my father was an immigrant. He was in turn “naturalized”. I was born on American soil. I am a citizen, same as any other citizen—no matter how many generations they trace their lineage from.

Whether or not I am descended from “founding stock” is another matter.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
4 days ago

Top form today Falcone. Acing it.

It reminds me of the classic Sopranos clip: “The Romans, whatever happened to them…?” “You’re lookin’ at ’em, pal.”

c matt
c matt
Reply to  TomA
5 days ago

I find the whole meme thing a bit overblown. Look at the Irish. They don’t meme about what’s coming; they burn down the building IRL.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  c matt
5 days ago

Likely just a difference of opinion of where we are on the Claire continuum. The “Do something violent now” types who don’t take their own advice are probably glowies. Paid or volunteer.

RealityRules
RealityRules
5 days ago

Brilliant essay. Here are a couple examples that underscore the point. Of course they are published by one of the organizations that has huge sums and is still fighting for the Constitution and American Way of Life. https://americanmind.org/salvo/social-justice-and-the-right/ ^^^ I actually corresponded with this guy a bit back. He was starting to broach the anti-White topic at a time that it was not uttered in the mainstream. I wrote him and made a case for the critical importance of calling this what it is and going on the attack. He wrote me back with some smug colorblind merit excuse that… Read more »

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Lineman
Lineman
Reply to  RealityRules
5 days ago

Tribe Up or Die Brother…

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  RealityRules
4 days ago

I’m finding my inner Yamnaya!

unreality
unreality
Reply to  RealityRules
4 days ago

“Even in England, where they have no free speech at all the New Culture Forum guys are calling this what it is: the ethnic cleansing of their military”

If they speak their minds then they clearly have some right to expression..

If you can’t express yourself openly then your freedom of expression is purely theoretical.

N.S. Palmer
5 days ago

Bertrand Russell observed that “Man is a credulous animal, and must believe something; in the absence of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones.” Every person, society, and civilization lives by a set of myths that combine a few facts with a lot of wishful thinking. To question those myths is to endanger the survival of the person or group that depends on them. And since no human or human group is immortal, sometimes the moment arrives to question their sustaining myths. But we shouldn’t deceive ourselves about what will replace them: not hard facts, but… Read more »

Falcone
Falcone
5 days ago

I’m noticing the Europeans took a stand, albeit small, against Israel for terrorizing the Palestinians. This was followed by Germany taking a stand against unfettered immigration and tightening its borders. Is it that showing some moral courage regarding the former gives one authority to tackle the latter? Is something in play? I ask because we all hear lots of bellowing from conservatives about unchecked immigration in American towns yet none of them has a word to say about Israelis doing to the Palestinians what the Haitians and South Americans are doing to us. I mentioned this also a few days… Read more »

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

All American political discourse is bought and paid. Those cutting the checks want pro-Israel, anti-immigration rhetoric to counter the pro-Israel, pro-immigration rhetoric.

As for Europe, I do detect an opening to get out from under the Semitic yoke. Olaf has announced he will turn over Netanyahu to the International Court if he steps foot on German soil (I doubt it, but still). Relatedly, the steps against white replacement is out of fear that parties that actually might stop immigration are poised to win unless the United States interferes in their elections.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

As much as I agree with a lot of what you say, do you really think some supra-national jurisprudence is going to save the day?

It’s scams all the way down.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

This is hard for me to explain, but I will try Before I start, it’s about always moving up the ladder Remember when, say, you (rhetorically) broke some stupid law or feel the local courthouse wronged you in its decision so you were all fired up about taking it up to the next level. Because there you might find a wiser or more understanding judge who wasn’t some dumb local yokel. The ultimate was to “take my case to the Supreme Court!” They’re the smartest and wisest and best in the land and surely they will see how I was… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

“…so you were all fired up about taking it up to the next level. ”

Here’s where you lost me. If the system selects for judges who cannot do justice, what’s the point in appealing to a judge who was also selected for his ability to not render justice?

Now if it were prison, sure, why not? Might as well hope for a miracle while you wait. But if it’s only money, just suck it up and try to not get on their radar again.

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Because the perception if not the reality is that the higher up you go, the more you find judges who were “properly” educated in the Ivy League and who are up on all the latest legal theories and ideas, especially wrt race. Judges at the local level who graduated from LSU or Alabama etc are never going to give the black man a fair shake but the Yankees will, they fought to free me. That has been the media narrative for a long while. And I think it resonates with non-whites and also probably the poorer whites who think their… Read more »

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Falcone
4 days ago

Oh, you are talking blacks and maybe “minorities” like women, not making a statement about “justice” in general?

Conceded.

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Falcone
4 days ago

It makes absolute sense, Falcone. When they reinstall some version of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, giving rootless corporations jurisdiction over national parliaments, we’ll need a rootless Court to appeal to.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

I neither think nor wrote that, and I do not believe it. To be clearer, Olaf is using the IC as a pretext to distance himself from the ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

OIC. Thanks.

c matt
c matt
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

No doubt a scam, but as to Netanyahoo, I get the feeling some powers that be are sensing he is expendable.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

I think tying what Israel is doing in Palestine to mass illegal immigration in America just might be the winning formula

I know this, it would be a unifying issue for the more rational people on the Left with the people on the right. It would be a common cause.

And it will have the media and the oligarchs completely on the defensive. Once the horrors in Palestine are made analogous to the horrors here in America and Europe, I think that would be a powerful combination and possibly a fatal blow

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

I’m trying to wrap my head around what you are saying. Are you drawing a parallel between Netanyahu and the illegal hordes? Legacy Americans are the Palis?

Will Right-wing whites opt into victimhood mentality that easily? “Underdog, save me”?

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Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Steve
5 days ago

Yes, I am saying the Palestinians and American whites are each being victimized by Israelis and illegal hordes. Which is why I surmise that the (((media))) is always trying to make the claim that acceptance of mass immigration is a moral good. This way the inference must be that what the Israelis are doing is a moral good. Not a perfect analogy but close enough where normiecons have to make a choice, and to date they haven’t. They continue to say the illegals busting into our towns and displacing us are bad but the Israelis busting into Palestinian villages and… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

Steve, you’ve inadvertantly nailed it.

Falcone is right, it’s a technical knockout. Legacy Americans as the Palis appeals to the commanding heights of today’s moral frame.

A big plus is that reality is backing us: we really are the victims here. I can naively hope that both deplorables and virtue signalers will be swayed, a bit, towards this bank of the river.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
4 days ago

Sigh.

Without men willing to set aside victimhood and grab the bull by the horns, it’s over.

Been a pretty good run. GG, well played. Better luck next time.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

I understand your sentiment. Which is why perhaps an Irishman might be the right guy to get this ball rolling. They can play the victim with conviction and also honor and legitimacy. And they can speak so beautifully

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

It could be effective. The parallels with what is happening in Ohio (and Ireland, etc.) certainly are there given the murders being reported. Both situations are ethnic cleansing being orchestrated by the same people, in one case by proxy. It would take an incredibly skilled and brave politician to be able to pull it off, and no one really fits that bill.

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 days ago

I think once the idea is put out into the public then it could build up on its own. Once people see that we are all being treated as shitty as those poor Palestinians the light bulbs will start going off. And maybe then a politician could come in and exploit it. And I wouldn’t be surprised if that politician is an Irishman. They may be the only ones with the guts and the social “infrastructure” to withstand the onslaught.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Falcone
4 days ago

You can’t help but notice that within the Republic of Ireland itself, the most vocal opposition to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians also is the most supportive of the mass migration that is destroying the country. I honestly cannot tell whether that is due to political/religious considerations or the pathological altruism that is a real thing with whites. Maybe an Irish nationalist–actual nationalist–might be able to thread the needle, but so far it is just chants of “Free Palestine!” coupled with “Welcome Refugees!”

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Jack Dobson
4 days ago

Im hearing the Irish are getting fed up with the immigration and are starting to get really vocal about it. God bless them

Outis
Outis
5 days ago

In this age, it is the slow awakening from the myth of the twentieth century that foreshadows not only the end of conservatism but the end of the regime itself.

Okay, stop beating around the bush. What is this Mythos des zwanzigsten Jahrhunderts, and why does its demise betoken the end of the regime?

HalfTrolling
HalfTrolling
Reply to  Outis
5 days ago

People are going to get super upset about this, but once you begin questioning aspects of WW2 you aren’t going to stop.

Ben the Layabout
Ben the Layabout
Reply to  HalfTrolling
5 days ago

Even if one leaves the official victimology of The Holocaust® untouched, which is highly recommended because in many places to do otherwise incurs risks to career, finances or even one’s personal liberty, arises the sticky problem of the fact that (horrors!) other groups died too. In fact, in the millions. [Clutch at pearls]. Gasp! It looks like it only gets worse….tens of millions! No questions, please, about our ally the Soviet Union and how many of its own citizens it disposed of well before WW II was even on anyone’s radar.

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Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  HalfTrolling
5 days ago

What puzzles me is why that mythos justifies the toppling of statues and the desecration of graves.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

It is because the honored and the buried are white. There is no subtlety here.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

But the mythos of WWII and the American century was not anti-white. The bona fide anti-white narrative commenced in the second half of the sixties. In fact, I’d probably argue that this postmodern narrative began competing with the WWII mythos at about that time or maybe a bit later, and eventually supplanted it. Of if it didn’t supplant it, coopted it. Just spitballing here.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Ostei Kozelskii
5 days ago

The statue toppling and desecration happened after the postmodern narrative took hold. If the GAE manages to hold on another decade, look for the typical WWII GI to be presented as black as a way around the whiteness of the American Century’s greatest warriors.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

Right. The coopting approach. Seems like fairly recently Hollywood made some WWII flick (Pearl Harbor? Midway?) where one of America’s heroic fighter pilots was a numinous nuggra. Maybe Cuba Gooding or Wesley Snipes.

3g4me
3g4me
Reply to  HalfTrolling
5 days ago

But “my grandpa,” “my uncle,” “my dad” made the world safe for democracy by fighting the evil notsees. If I had a fiatbuck for every time I’ve heard/read that . . .

Steve
Steve
Reply to  3g4me
5 days ago

If I had a fiat buck for every time someone said he heard somone say that, and lost 10 fiat bux for every time I’ve actually heard it said, I’d be a very rich man indeed.

fakeemail
fakeemail
5 days ago

OFF TOPIC: I really hope Trump gets RFK Jr. out there more. This is the best backer Trump could have. Nobody’s smarter than him, nobody has a bigger political name. He’s a real mensch; despite being married to Larry David’s wife.

fakeemail
fakeemail
Reply to  fakeemail
5 days ago

Also, Trump needs Gabbard out there. SHE IS BEAUTIFUL. And women will notice a beautiful women backing Trump. Pre-Selection, baby!

Steve
Steve
Reply to  fakeemail
5 days ago

If Noem hadn’t crashed and burned, an entourage of Kristi, Tulsi and Melania would be quite eye-catching.

KGB
KGB
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

Gabbard’s got that certain something, but Noem’s waxy Botox look is a huge turnoff.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  KGB
4 days ago

Huh. I think she looks a lot like Melania, but with different eyes and mouth.

Popcorn
Popcorn
5 days ago

The master does not see it coming, but neither do the slaves.

True.Conservatism may be dead but progressives also don’t have much to offer anymore. A new order is waiting to be born.

Jeffrey Zoar
Jeffrey Zoar
Reply to  Popcorn
5 days ago

The new order is already here. It just hasn’t honestly announced itself, preferring to use the old order as a skinsuit.

Fred Beans
Fred Beans
5 days ago

I remember an article, probably from the Atlantic Monthly, published after the Dick Morris inspired Clinton’s welfare reform act of 1996 (or “welfare deform” as the lefties liked to lament). It claimed that the liberal policies and institutions that had been allowed to develop in the US were because we felt we had to prove we were really the nice guys compared to the commies. But now we had nothing to prove and it was going to be open season on all the social programs and progressive policies, etc. If the author had a crystal ball though, they wouldn’t have… Read more »

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

Speaking of the Roman Empire, and how it dragged on for a while, Laurent Guyenot wrote a fascinating book about the first first millennium AD. It’s titled “Anno Domini” and the thesis is that what historians believe to have been about 1,000 years between roughly the death of Caesar Augustus and the year 1000 AD, was actually a little over 300 years, and that several historical events have been duplicated and placed at different times thereby adding about 700 years into our history books, years that never actually occurred.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

Heard that too, utterly bonkers. We’re not dependent on written sources for our history, you can track history back, year by year, with dendrochronology, dating buildings by the tree rings in the timber.

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
Reply to  Felix Krull
5 days ago

Guyenot addresses the dendrochronology issue in the book. So you might want to read it, or perhaps not.

Felix Krull
Member
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

And you might want to explain what the issue is.

Or perhaps not.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

Sounds like Anatolii Fomenko’s New Chronology. It’s bollocks, of course.

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

Contemporaneous societies with written language existed, and that is fatal to the theory.

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
Reply to  Jack Dobson
5 days ago

Imagine you lived in what is now called the year, 638. Would you have called it 638? Would someone living in what is now Sweden, or Afghanistan, or Bangladesh call it 638?

Jack Dobson
Jack Dobson
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

You also had a very civilized culture, China, and even a barbarous one, Mayan, that kept meticulous calendars as far as time passage. Sun rise, sun set X number of days would let you know a year had passed regardless of what it was called. If there has been a discrepancy found between those and the Roman version I’m unaware of it.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

No, you’d call the time in what they called their time. However, you’d match up events that both civilizations experienced and then translate their time to your time measurement and work from there. Time passes the exact same way all over earth. You just find a point where you both experience similar events, or date their structure, or whatever. Same as you convert Fahrenheit to Centigrade. Anyone saying this doesn’t happen, or attempting to say the time from Augustus to 1000AD was really 300 years is insane and writing fantasy for the rubes. Also, I happen to have experience with… Read more »

Alzaebo
Alzaebo
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

I heard a very similar claim about Biblical timelines, that a 600 year period was duplicated, that is, used twice with minor variations to flesh out the ‘history’.
I wonder if that’s related, perhaps some odd little literary niche being adapted.

Steve
Steve
Reply to  Alzaebo
5 days ago

Gotta get it up to 6,000 years somehow. 😉

Falcone
Falcone
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
5 days ago

I can see how you might be able to hoodwink an American about that, but I cannot see that happening in Europe. There is simply too much architecture and artifacts you would have to explain away. Not to mention the histories and biographies of the Popes, the monarchs, battles, etc.

Mencken Libertarian
Mencken Libertarian
Reply to  Falcone
5 days ago

In the book he writes about some significance to the Catholic Church of the year 1000. And one of the popes wanting to be Pope during the year 1000. So they simply declared that the year 1000 was coming soon and the current pope would gain some significance from that. And who, in what we call the year 998 or so, would have been able to plausibly claim otherwise?

It’s a fascinating book, and I would like to read a critique from someone who has actually read it.

Ostei Kozelskii
Member
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

The Vatican was never the sole repository of scholarly knowledge. Various ducal courts, for instance, would have known the church was fudging chronology, and they could have guessed why.

Compsci
Compsci
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

It’s a fascinating book, and I would like to read a critique from someone who has actually read it.”

There is a level to the rabbit hole well educated people will jump into. Obviously, you have not reached your level yet. Folks with understanding do not attempt to answer all the questions a fool can ask of them.

Pozymandias
Reply to  Mencken Libertarian
4 days ago

I haven’t heard this one in a while. It’s one of those theories that gets you thinking “maybe there’s something to this crazy idea”. Then you look into things like the tree ring data that Felix mentioned and Chinese records and the whole thing evaporates. Fun to think about though. Of course, if things keep going like they have been, future people picking through the radioactive rubble of modern America may come up with even nuttier ideas to explain, well, all the nuttiness of our society.

RVIDXR
RVIDXR
5 days ago

“The reason for that is nothing has come along to replace it.” I know its implicit that we all know there has been countless things that could’ve replaced it. Even Ron Paul’s brand of Libertarianism would’ve been a significant improvement over Con Inc. Even mentioning what the federal reserve is & how it operates is a threat to the system. Even with all of the absurd trappings that would’ve came along with Ron’s brand of Libertarianism & even though it would’ve never been allowed to change anything he had to be walled off to prevent damage but that’s precisely the… Read more »

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tashtego
Member
5 days ago

“Father Of Child Killed By Haitian Migrant Says He ‘Wishes His Son Had Been Killed By A White Man” The host mentioned reading The Declaration the other day and I’ve also been reading some older histories of the English Rev. and the some of the Parliamentary declarations justifying the actions they were contemplating. We tolerate conditions imposed by our illegitimately installed and unrepresentative rulers at least as bad as those that motivated these other historical power conflicts. The pressure to thwart the right to free assembly and censor all dissent from white citizens of European decent in general, the seeming… Read more »

fakeemail
fakeemail
5 days ago

a flippant real estate mogul and reality television star was able to steamroll through the party’s A-list candidates and did so in a way that discredited the institution they represented.”

JEB IS A MESS

TempoNick
TempoNick
5 days ago

“It has been dead as an intellectual endeavor for a long time”

I question the entire concept of making this sort of thing an “intellectual endeavor.” There’s a trite old phrase in politics about how there isn’t a Republican way of picking garbage or a Democrat way of picking garbage. Practical over theoretical wins the day, not to mention that conservative “theory” is a lot of talk, but has accomplished practically nothing people want.

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King Kong
King Kong
4 days ago

It is no doubt fascinating to watch the hyenas turn against Scar.

Bill W
Bill W
4 days ago

I thank God every day the conservacuck boomers are dying off and taking their demonic Judeo-Christian Universalism with them. Future generations will equate them with insane ideologies like Salem witch trials, Jonestown and “Jesus was a Jew” wackadoodles.

A genuine Christian revival is blossoming and will put an end to Judeo-Christianism once an for all.

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tashtego
Member
5 days ago

Curious why my post was censored. Hoping it is accidental.

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Steve
Steve
Reply to  tashtego
5 days ago

Patience. Happens sometimes. The ways of the AI-based Central Scrutinizer are mysterious.

LineInTheSand
LineInTheSand
Reply to  Steve
4 days ago

This is the Central Scrutinizer…
It is my responsibility to enforce all the laws
That haven’t been passed yet”